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Hi all,
following inspired discussions spread over various submarine-building threads, I thought I'd open a "catch-all" thread where we can collect ideas, start planning and hopefully show off nice things.
Our key agenda points would be:
1. What table size (probably 6x4 or something similar)?
2. What style of game (Infantry skirmish with vehicle elements)?
3. Miniature scale/size (28mm, Gawd's Own Scale, of course)?
4. What rules (Gaslight has been suggested already)?
5. Who does what?
That's it for starters. Have to do some work now, but will check back periodically and contribute.
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Tis now sticky :D
Happy to contribute whatever I can, probably a few deep sea divers and British Naval Brigade if required.
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Great! Thank you, Mr. Cushing! ;)
Anyway, for way of introduction, here are the links to the threads that spawned this idea (in chronological order):
"VSF Mini Sub" by AndyM (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23236.0)
"Sub/Landing Craft" by AndyM (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24214.0)
"The Terror from the Deep" by Westfalia Chris (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24651.0)
"It's a little nippy out there" by gamer Mac (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24692.0)
To sum up, the idea is having a VSF underwater game ("Stingray" meets "20,000 Leagues" with lots of rivets added) to present and play at BLAM 2011.
Rules
As for rules, Gaslight was suggested, and would provide an established VSF ruleset. "Downside", if you like, is that I have never played it (except for one game of VSF Stargate) and therefore do not have any working knowledge of the rules, certainly not enough to write a scenario for it.
An alternative would be that someone (I'd volunteer, shamelessly) writes up a fast and easy, but suitably detailed set of rules that will be able to handle divers, various small submarines and other underwater craft, and various critters of the deep blue sea. For that, I think we should have a little brainstorming session to get a list of what to include and what to leave out.
Miniatures
The style of the game being underwater skirmish, I would suggest each player controlling one unit of "infantry" (read, divers) and one or two underwater craft, depending on their size and game potential. There are various deep-sea divers out there, but before making proper plans, I guess some factions definition work would be in order.
Terrain
Basically, a table full of seabed. Onto this, we could place various algae forests and coral reefs, and maybe have shoals (correct term?) of fish providing moving cover/LoS obstructions. Larger sea life like squids, sharks and morays could occur as random encounters.
Other features would probably be dependent on the scenario played. The simplest one would probably be a ship's wreck carrying a valuable cargo which is of equal importance to some or all of the factions. Alternatively, an underwater city would be nice (I'm looking your way, Templemere!), but may provide cumbersome to transport, depending on who does it.
That's some ideas for starters. Maybe everyone involved could dream up a faction he or she wants to play, and we will continue work from there.
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Alas I'm unable to be involved in this project as I'm planning my own but I'll have a rummage through my bits and see if there's anything I can offer. I was considering playing aqua VSF some years ago so I'd be surprised if I haven't bought a few bits for it.
Great project and looking forward to seeing it develop in your capable hands.
Edit: Chris, forgot to mention your flirtation with GASLIGHT at BLAM was To Be Continued by GASLIGHT rather than the original ruleset or Battles. The basics are still the same though.
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Don't forget some rules from automotons. Mage Knight submersible golems would look quite smashing in an underwater VSF game.
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I've tinkered around with this idea using GZG's space-based Full Thrust rules (they are free to download online) as a foundation for underwater conflict. They have a pretty simple inertial vector movement system that would simulate underwater movement well enough. In this case the big fish and crab ships would effectively be "carriers", and human dive teams would then become "fighter squadrons".
Everything you might want to simulate like different weapons and armor capacities of the main ships and divers can be repurposed/renamed from the core rules. You can even simulate diver air supply through utilizing the "fighter endurance" rules.
I think the biggest areas lacking would be boarding actions, undersea beasts, and specific rules/ideas that convey the Victorian mechanical idiosyncrasies of brass fish-as-subs. Also there isn't a whole lot of heroic level detail.
Certainly additional work would have to be done to make the rules fit the atmosphere, but there seem to me to be enough rules similarities between adventures in space and adventures underwater to warrant some crossover consideration.
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Tobi (Green Knight) had a very neat little underwater game at GLAM in Kiel earlier this year. There's a pic on Matakishi's site http://www.matakishi.com/glam2010dayone.htm
He used .45 Adventure rules. I didn't get to play, but it looked like a lot of fun :)
Not quite sure how you'd use subs and deep sea divers and Naval Brigade... Unless of course you had a great big Nautilus with full interior... Kind of Zeppelin like... ::) :D
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Unless of course you had a great big Nautilus with full interior... Kind of Zeppelin like... ::) :D
Do it do it do it lol
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Really, what's the difference between a submarine and a zeppelin if you don't have any windows?
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Don't forget some rules from automotons. Mage Knight submersible golems would look quite smashing in an underwater VSF game.
If these are the figures I'm thinking of (the chaps wit the tridents), they also make great divers in their own right.
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Go for the self style rules Chris, I think with the environ in question it would be easier to start a fresh than to modify existing.
I've had a long couple of days at work with more to come but when I'm a bit more free I'll post some ideas up.
cheers
James
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Found some Scheltrum divers and Atlantis types (not advertised on the website) so let me know if you need them for the game.
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Go for the self style rules Chris, I think with the environ in question it would be easier to start a fresh than to modify existing.
I'd guess so, too. I'm currently leaning to a two-activation system, with various actions, units moving in random sequence based on initiative ratings, and different movement rates for different types of divers, e.g. "seabed-sloggers" (boiler suit), "surfaciant swimmers" (aqualung-type), and "amphibians" (which would be in the style of the "Creature", or the Atlanteans in that Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge story, or, IIRC, the Aquaphibians from "Stingray").
For vehicles, limited numbers of turns based on agility, movement rates to reflect that, and simple damage rules that consider hull rigidity and integrity as well as the inner workings.
I think I'll whip up a rule skeleton, and we will build on that.
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Hey, I think Colin and Andy had been talking about something similar possibly for BLAM... sounds as though there might be a few underwater tables this year!
Sounding good Chris, can't wait to see your progress.
Cheers
Andy
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I suggested earlier that, if you want, I'll happly make the board? I had some ideas. Most of these were drawn straight after the last BLAM.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/45a1c95a.jpg~original)
Myself, Colin and Oldskoolrebel thought about having an underwater base and have people escape from it into a sub and that was going to be our game.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/292e298f.jpg~original)
The boat is meant to be a sunken steamer with the dead captain hunched over the wheel. Of course you'd also have cliffs, kelp fields and reefs.
I also thought about a floating mine field and my brother Colin suggested an abyssal canyon.
As for the Nautilus i have been thinking about that for a while...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d03ea248.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ebfb1257.jpg~original)
The mini sub in the drawings is supposed to be the sub i built.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/60b8464b.jpg~original)
I think ,though, it might be too big to build!
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The London War Room (Parroom Station) martians could work as natives (Atlanteans) without much conversion.
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I suggested earlier that, if you want, I'll happly make the board? I had some ideas. Most of these were draw straight after the last BLAM.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/45a1c95a.jpg)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/292e298f.jpg)
The boat is meant to be a sunken steamer with the dead captain hunched over the wheel. Of course you'd also have cliffs, kelp fields and reefs.
I also thought about a floating mine field and my brother Colin suggested an abyssal
canyon.
As for the Nautilus i have been thinking about that for a while...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d03ea248.jpg)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ebfb1257.jpg)
The mini sub in the drawings is supposed to be the sub i built.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/60b8464b.jpg)
I think ,though, it might be too big to build!
Stop it right now! I've got enough on my ideas plate with out you adding to it lol
I like the Nautilus very much :-*
I reckon I'll do a normal type sub but with lighting and a plush interior for my Japanese.
cheers
James
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Wonderful stuff there, Andy!
I suggested earlier that, if you want, I'll happly make the board? I had some ideas. Most of these were drawn straight after the last BLAM.
I would indeed suggest that you guys do the boards (since you got a car to transport them, IIRC), and we can do some collaborative effort for the "terrain features". As said, I am not sure if I can actually make it to BLAM this year, but we could still do the project and I would send you my terrain pieces by mail if I really cannot make it. So I would focus on the rules for now, and start some small, light terrain pieces in the new year.
If you could do a rough sketch of the board layout, maybe 6x4, with one terrain feature in every square foot, and maybe a big underwater city (Atlantis?) on one of the short sides. It could be nested in an underwater mountain ridge, "forcing" the players to move across the length of the table.
Or we could designate a section of the table as "above water" (as in an air-filled cave, like the Disney Atlantis from that not-too-bad, but not-too-great film), with a submarine pen. The remainder could be "underwater" terrain.
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I'm definately tempted to build a vessel or two, depending on available time.
(Yes I know its 10 months away, but I thought that about BLAM 2010 last year ::))
This may be of some use: http://www.salute.co.uk/salutegames/stingray/graphics/index.htm
The Warlords game (from 1989)
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The London War Room (Parroom Station) martians could work as natives (Atlanteans) without much conversion.
Or these sea elves from Reaper:
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03140_G.jpg)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03141_G.jpg)
Or monsters
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03172_G.jpg)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03230_G.jpg)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/02948_G.jpg)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/65076_w_1.jpg)
Man I'm getting excited by this project! And I won't even be there! :)
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And how about a role for those excellent Fenris deep ones ? :)
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I think we're gonna need a bigger table ;)
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Those Reaper figures are rather special aren't there :-*
I think we're gonna need a bigger table ;)
10x6 ? ;D
cheers
James
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To add a concept sketch to the mix
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mgyYTW2w19c/R-hF2zyYfQI/AAAAAAAACZQ/DLR7VTjtkP0/s1600-h/Steampunk-Submersible.jpg)
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I reckon I'll do a normal type sub but with lighting and a plush interior for my Japanese.
cheers
James
I had an idea for your Japanese Jim....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/716c50c9.jpg~original)
A squadron of suicide submarines ( basically a torpedo with a driver!)
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STOP IT!!! lol
In fact, I have access to domes and tubes so I think that one's a goer :D
cheers
James
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This looks like it could be a great project - good luck.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
PS/
I have the were Shark from Reaper, it's a fantastic model - and don't forget the cheap fish and sea themed toys that you can get in ToysRUs.
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Am I allowed Atlanteans riding Mantarays?
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Surely any troop type is allowed?
I had a wee think about the board and I thought I'd put this forward...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/f9dc9470.jpg~original)
I hope you can make this out. It shows all the main elements I've thought of. Obviously we'd have small rocks covered in coral and other small stuff to populate it.
What do you think?
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I think it looks perfect.
6ftx4ft or 10ftx6ft?
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Think it'd have to be 6x4 as I only have a wee flat to build it in. :(
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I think it looks perfect.
6ftx4ft or 10ftx6ft?
I agree with Andy, 6x4 is probably more practical, and if we put the focus on the "infantry" (for lack of a better term) and not so much on the vehicles (although those will be zooming about quite a bit - I think I need to go to Hull's seaquarium again soon for some inspiration!), the space should be enough.
Also, if we use the idea of moving terrain (e.g. fish swarms), it should be full enough while not being too cluttered.
One thing that came to me (and that may be an unnecessary German craving for standardisation): Should we agree on types of bases to be used, both on figures and terrain, so that it looks more unified? Also, for the terrain pieces, maybe we could also define a "standard" paint to use for the bases and the boards so that they blend in properly.
I would love to do that wrecked ship, if no-one wants dibs on that. I watched the Disney "Leagues" on Sunday and that sinking of the saltpeter runner off Rorapandi caught my imagination... I would like to do it on several smaller pieces, i.e. a bow piece, a stern piece, and one paddlewheel, all sticking up from the seabed, so we could arrange it a bit more flexibly, if necessary. And it may be easier to transport.
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I wouldn't bother too much about the bases. I personally would love to see the variations that people can make. Most people will probably go for sand coloured anywho.
Not sure about the movable terrain. I can understand encounters like in .45 adventures , but how do you model a school fish? Encounter cards could be left in place and turned when a unit approaches. You could have mines, sharks, underwater volcanos, etc.....
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So many cool aquatic models
(http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/FSWFD/FSWFD0009b_180.jpeg)
(http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/FSWFD/FSWFD0004_500.jpeg)
Check out the fishman showcase from frothers
http://www.frothersunite.com/files/rob/Fmsc/Fmsc1.htm
I think that I'm in love with these Shark calvary figs from Emperor's choice. I wonder if you could get them without the riders? A school of 10 of these puppies would look amazing.
(http://empcho.bizhosting.com/images/SharkLance.jpg)
Ok, I promise, no more.....
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I wouldn't bother too much about the bases. I personally would love to see the variations that people can make. Most people will probably go for sand coloured anywho.
I mainly meant slottabase vs. flat steel washer/coin. Personally, I would prefer the latter for this venture, but if you already have stuff based otherwise, we can follow that. Just so that they don't look too eclectic a mix.
Not sure about the movable terrain. I can understand encounters like in .45 adventures , but how do you model a school fish? Encounter cards could be left in place and turned when a unit approaches. You could have mines, sharks, underwater volcanos, etc.....
Was mainly an idea. I thought of creating a template in photoshop, then printing or photocopying it on clear acetate, and stick that to a base so that it is translucent, but visible. Don't know how it would turn out, would have to do a prototype.
I have just seen the Megaminis fish ranges, which look rather decent, and I may just order a couple of those for encounter markers. I agree, though, that until it happens, it should best be a marker (i.e. a washer with sand on top and the item below) or a card. I'm currently designing some cards as mock-ups and will upload some pics ASAP.
Chairface, that shark cavalry (pescalry?) is absolutely outrageous. :o lol :-*
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Blooming heck :o :o :o
I go away on night shift for a few nights and all this happens :o
I thought this was my idea :'(
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Folks, this is an amazing project! I'll follow it closely, as I don't have the time actually to build something like this - although I really would like to ... ;D
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One potentially cheap option for basic atlantean style troops is the King Shark model from Heroclix. You can et these for $1 on ebay. Also miniature market carries them for $1. From the justice league set.
(http://heroclix-game.com/heroclix-blog/eigene_post_pics/DC_Heroclix_Justice_League/Heroclix_Justice_League_King_Shark.jpg)
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Another suggestion for atlantean troops:
Megaminiatures
http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1172-Mephalian-warrior-Axe-28mm-/140466429943?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b4739ff7#ht_500wt_922
(http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1172-Mephalian-warrior-Axe-28mm-/140466429943?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b4739ff7#ht_500wt_922)
http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1170-Mephalian-warrior-Advancing-Sword-28mm-/360310632622?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff0ae#ht_500wt_922
(http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1170-Mephalian-warrior-Advancing-Sword-28mm-/360310632622?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff0ae#ht_500wt_922)
http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1173-Mephalian-warrior-loading-Crossbow-28mm-/360310633031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff247#ht_500wt_922
(http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1173-Mephalian-warrior-loading-Crossbow-28mm-/360310633031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff247#ht_500wt_922)
http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1171-Mephalian-warrior-shooting-Crossbow-28mm-/360310632784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff150#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1171-Mephalian-warrior-shooting-Crossbow-28mm-/360310632784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff150#ht_500wt_922)
http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1174-Mephalian-warrior-Sword-raised-28mm-/360310633124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff2a4#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAL-1174-Mephalian-warrior-Sword-raised-28mm-/360310633124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e42ff2a4#ht_500wt_922)
Sea creatures:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1034D-Giant-Crab-Man-60mm-tall-miniature-Sea-Creature-/140401672266?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b097804a#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1034D-Giant-Crab-Man-60mm-tall-miniature-Sea-Creature-/140401672266?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b097804a#ht_500wt_922)
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEM-10013-Squid-SWARM-25mm-miniatures-x-10-MONSTERS-/140150845545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20a1a43069#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/MEM-10013-Squid-SWARM-25mm-miniatures-x-10-MONSTERS-/140150845545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20a1a43069#ht_500wt_922)
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What's the current thinking on troop types and organisation? Those of us who take months to do anything (if they do it at all) need guidance. Do units and troop types have 'templates' to which we adhere, or is each unit individual, with its own special combo of rules?
A squad of infantry as a concept is fine, I'm sure I can get ten guys together, but will my Crocodilians (read, spare Lizard Men) with their spikey clubs be a match for Captain Nemo's Galvanic Bombardiers? Or do I at the very least need to give my guys crossbows? Or for example would hypothetical armour boosts (tough lizardy skin) and initiative bonuses (they're in their element so to speak, maybe they move faster than the humans in suits) be enough to offset ranged-weapon advantage?
Can my Crocodilians use an Attack Squid instead of a small craft? Or do I need to sort out some squid-, shark- or dolphin-riding lizard cavalry? Or build a Kraken-class underwater vehicle? Or...
So, what I'm getting at here I think is, how's it going to work, do we think (I'm particularly looking at you, Chris... )?
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If we go for the "free-for-all", "all comers", approach, then obviously the rules should cater for that. My current concept (which I hope to upload sometime before christmas, once I tidy it up a bit) just has a couple of archetypes, but I think we could also have some flexibility in ability if we keep it within a normal distribution range, i.e. the most likely ones being relatively close to each other.
As for ranged vs. melee, since the action would primarily be underwater, all ranged combat (harpoons et all) is likely to be short-range (I'm thinking 12-18" max). Given that the "primitive" archetypes would likely be more adapted to the environment, they could compensate for that by being more mobile.
I'd say that the use of "craft" as a term does not exclude living creatures, and large things should certainly be treated as equal. I mean, we all remember the fight against the squid in the 1954 "20,000 Leagues" movie.
What I'm trying to say is don't worry too much. My current focus, which is still quite sketchy as the rest of the project, is on short-range combat with harpoons and knives. That should allow for all kind of types to be usable.
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That sounds cool, and do-able.
My current idea is that I'll try to get ten Crocodilians, armed with crossbows and hand weapons; possibly a single hero-type with some kind of weird-technology weapon, and some kind of toy squid. In principle, does that sound like a viable force? Not so much in terms of 'is it viable rules wise', more in terms of, in your mind's eye, is that the scale of force you're thinking of?
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It's certainly the scale *I* had in mind, although since this is pretty much gamer Mac's, AndyM's and Oldskoolrebel's baby, I'd leave it to them to decide. Don't want to go blitzkrieg all over their ideas (I'm afraid I may have gone too far already).
I have to say, though, that Crocodilians are not exactly what I had in mind, humanoid amphibians being the furthest "non-homo sapiens" I envisaged. But on the other hand, the more the merrier, and if the others are happy with it, why not.
Remember though, that the current concept for the game table is supposed to be under water. So while I wouldn't mind treating crossbows as short-range harpoons rules-wise, it might look a bit strange unless it is made of whalebone or something similar, with shark sinews... suspension of disbelief, and all that.
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It's OK, it's all good. I was musing out loud as an exploration of principle, because I happen to have some spare lizardmen. It was more to get an idea of how forces could be organised (and balanced against each other) than a specific proposal that I should build them as a force for BLAM. I'll likely end up using them anyway in my own gaming (the lizard men anyway, maybe not the squid) if I ever build them up; as that's the case, I thought, hmmm, why not, kill two fish with one spear as it were.
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For those wanting to do tentacles: http://www.modularhose.com/ (http://www.modularhose.com/) I think something similar might have already been posted, but I am unsure if the mother ship source has been pointed out. Of interest might be the 1/4 inch segments.
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Started a bit of work on the underwater base while I was waiting for the undercoat to dry on my landing craft last night. Thought I'd post it up to show where I'm going with it. It made from mounting and plastic card, blue foam for the concrete bases and acetate(right spelling?). This is just the passage way that will lead to a large dome/moon pool.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/57f23874.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/14c6b953.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/f41026b5.jpg~original)
...with removable top.
What do you think?
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Should you not be at work? ;)
Looking great :-* :-* :-*
I need to get one of those hole cutters now that I have given you, yours back.
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Its very, very good, a great start ;D
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Holy interior design, Batman! :o Looking great. At the moment, maybe it looks a bit more James Bond than Charles Babbage, but nothing that couldn't be fixed with more rivets and brass paint! lol
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This is me at work Colin. I go to work to relax after building models!
I put more rivets on for sure Chris. Don't know about the bronze colour scheme though! It might look too much like your sub! ;) Maybe some Victorian wallpaper and paintings hanging from the wall inside the corridor might make it look more Victorian?
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I need to get one of those hole cutters now that I have given you, yours back.
What are they? Like hole punches or compasses?
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Compass type
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That looks great Andy :-* :-*
What you need are some plush red velvet curtains and leather seats (the ones with the dimples in them, you know the sort I mean) and a few brass light fittings (with working lights of course :D )
cheers
James
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Like these from Frontline? http://www.frontlinewargaming.co.uk/
(http://www.frontlinewargaming.co.uk/photos/25/ER4.jpg)
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Compass type
Ah. Got one of those. Not entirely happy with it.
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Like these from Frontline? http://www.frontlinewargaming.co.uk/
(http://www.frontlinewargaming.co.uk/photos/25/ER4.jpg)
Them's the ones :)
Hammers, A small tip with those compass type hole cutters. You really need to take your time with them and go round five or six times and even then you might not cut through.
cheers
James
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Started a bit of work on the underwater base...
OH NOooo!
Here he goes again.. :o
I can only imagine what is coming next but I'm sure it won't fit in my closet! o_o
;)
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Looking good Andy. Silly question here but I take it you literally just bend the plastic into the shape you want and glue it in position?
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Looking good Andy. Silly question here but I take it you literally just bend the plastic into the shape you want and glue it in position?
Not a silly question. I was wondering too.
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Paul-those chairs look great and that site seems really cheap! £2.50 for 6 chairs! He's got a few good things on that site. I especially like the library set with the globe and bookshelves. I might try and build benches in the style of those chairs.
Neil-The plastic sheet is only the thickness of a sheet of paper. Easily bendable. The model gets the strength from the frame on the inside. As well as the circular framework there's also straight sections running the length of the corridor.
Hammers- as Jim says, just take your time with the cutter. Don't try and cut the circle out in one go. There's two cutters myself and Colin use to build things. Ones that compass thing and the other is a hole punch. I'll try and take a picture of it. I think we got it out of Millars the art store.
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Paul-those chairs look great and that site seems really cheap! £2.50 for 6 chairs! He's got a few good things on that site. I especially like the library set with the globe and bookshelves. I might try and build benches in the style of those chairs.
Neil-The plastic sheet is only the thickness of a sheet of paper. Easily bendable. The model gets the strength from the frame on the inside. As well as the circular framework there's also straight sections running the length of the corridor.
Hammers- as Jim says, just take your time with the cutter. Don't try and cut the circle out in one go. There's two cutters myself and Colin use to build things. Ones that compass thing and the other is a hole punch. I'll try and take a picture of it. I think we got it out of Millars the art store.
As I've said I've got the compass one, Xacto brand with a small jointed blade. This one requires a good first groove and a good many turns since it cuts rather shallow.
Then I have one of these:
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/olfablades_2114_4028608)
This one cuts pretty well as long as you change blades regularly. It needs a light touch however. To much pressure and it will cut a new wonky, off centre groove. Also it may enlarge the centre hole making the blade , again, wobble from its groove.
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That looks great Andy :-* :-*
What you need are some plush red velvet curtains and leather seats (the ones with the dimples in them, you know the sort I mean) and a few brass light fittings (with working lights of course :D )
cheers
James
You know, like the ones you find in a brothel. ;) :D
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You know, like the ones you find in a brothel. ;) :D
But of course! Only the finest establishments would do ;D
cheers
James
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These are the two culprits I use...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/26df29c3.jpg~original)
The top one is the ackward one. Make too big a circle or apply too much pressure and it goes ski-wiff!! The bottom one has seen alot of use around a certain Zeppelin shaped model!
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Viola! One bench.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/07dd47b4.jpg~original)
It's mainly wee bits of card with modelling putty shaped like cushions. The buttons are just plastic rod and the banding is glossy magazine cover with rivets and swirlies embossed on it.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9d258375.jpg~original)
Bench in the corridor.
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Shazaam!!! Ask and you shall receive :D
Great stuff Andy, love it :-* :-*
cheers
James
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"Cribs: Captain Nemo". Wonderful. :D
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Very nice :-* :-*
But sorry I don't get why there is a bench in the corridor, geriatric crewmen perhaps lol
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Because all the best establishments have them lol lol
cheers
James
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The top one is the ackward one. Make too big a circle or apply too much pressure and it goes ski-wiff!!
Yes, that's how that cookie crumbles...
I got myself a variable size hole maker like those pliers thinggummybobs, but with a rotating wheel on which the punches are mounted (get it?).
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Very nice :-* :-*
But sorry I don't get why there is a bench in the corridor, geriatric crewmen perhaps lol
Have you not read that one BPRD issue where Abe goes to Indonesia? Talk about geriatric crew men...
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Hammers-those wheels cutters are extremely ackward. Colin got one and we could barely make it cut through any decent thickness of material. That small silver punch seems to give more leverage.
Colin-it's Victorian times everything stops for tea and a smoking break. I'm going to hang up some smoking jackets on hooks beside the benches. Though going by modern laws, I should probably build a smoking shelter outside the underwater base! ;)
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Don't forget a spittoon!
Or is that just an American thing... o_o
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I think this creature is perfect for your work:
The Sphere wars moray:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wdkIFdzbrpY/S0tQxnf5W1I/AAAAAAAABIo/HfRF-zYdF94/s1600/Untitled-1.jpg)
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What a brilliant idea for a meet up project!
I'll gladly join and contribute.
Did you settle on the rules?
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I think this creature is perfect for your work:
The Sphere wars moray:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wdkIFdzbrpY/S0tQxnf5W1I/AAAAAAAABIo/HfRF-zYdF94/s1600/Untitled-1.jpg)
A Paint-Me-figure! if there ever was one...
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I was wondering why noone had mentioned this (http://www.reapermini.com/DarkMaiden)?
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Dr the Viking- I think Westfella Chris was sorting out the rules. Any ideas what you want to do/build/paint?
I've wanted to try this for ages now and with this project it's finally given me an excuse to do it. I'm roughly following this guys technique for his train layout. Although i don't know what 'top coat' is. Is that just American for plaster? Anyway I'd thought I'd show how I did it...
http://members.westnet.com.au/mjbd/html/foam_rocks_-_frocks.html (http://members.westnet.com.au/mjbd/html/foam_rocks_-_frocks.html)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d3e53b91.jpg~original)
I cut out rough circular shapes out of corrugated cardboard and squished down the edges to give a more beveled look.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/54da6609.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/43623bc5.jpg~original)
Next I tore up some old cushion stuffing a friend had been ready to throw out and glued it down with PVA glue.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d3a06a50.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c847e8a8.jpg~original)
Once the glue was dry I covered it all in liberal amounts of 'finish skim' from polycell.
Since the board is going to be 6x4 I'll make up a few more(if this works!).
What do you think?
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I think they look suitably aquatic. Shove a few corals and fisheses in there and you're done :D
cheers
James
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They look good Andy and an impressive technique too. Is there any chance of the polycell cracking or does it solidify the foam?
Those rocks will look good when finished, what are you thinking of adding to them? There's heaps of cheap aquatic stuff on e-Bay.
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TC- it seems to be quite good so far. The sponge soaks up the mixture like a.....eh....well, sponge and goes hard. I think there's enough play in the mixture to stop it cracking. Only time will tell.
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Are they stiil soft when finished?
How fragile are they?
Remember our ham fisted friends ;)
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I better stop reading this topic or before I know it I'll be inspired to work on a big living bioship creature for use by the Dark Mariner faction for Shadowsea... And I don't even have any right now. Yikes.
-TheSnackist
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Foam rubber, soak then ring out with slightly diluted PVA glue, will harden enough to cut like foam board, use that tech myself for some wall sections I have made.
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wow this looks well cool
dodge
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There are so many excellent ideas here that I'm seriously tempted to join in this project too. I just need to identify some figures that I like ;)
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Well the foam rocks have dried solid with no cracks. Seems to be a good way to make rocks. I'll get them painted up soon.
Got a bit more done on the base...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/75dc5552.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/386df2c2.jpg~original)
I've got two options in mind for the roof of the moon pool. The top one is more like a metal type church roof with arched windows and the bottom one, I've got a plastic dome I 'acquired' that I'd use for the upper part of the roof. What do you think? Anybody got any better ideas. Preferably something easy to build! ;)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/15bb5658.jpg~original)
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That is a GREAT & INSPIRING piece of work...VERY WELL DONE!
Since you asked, I rather like the domed top piece...the top bubble looks to be a fine observation/command station.
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Plastic dome all the way Andy :D
cheers
James
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Domes are definately the way to go.
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I say plastic dome as well.
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Domes are definately the way to go.
:D
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Both! That's presuming they will be removable. :)
Its looking good Andy.
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Dome roof definitely :)
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How big is the dome compared to the base you have built?
Will it be difficult to make the dome shape fit the hexagon shape you have made?
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TC- the dome is removable, but I think one is enough to build!
Colin-that bits easy ;). The hard part will be sticking down the plastic card to shapewith the frame!!!
Still WIP....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/86033f12.jpg~original)
Just the frame.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/36df5136.jpg~original)
Cutting out the plastic sheet to make a panel and window frame. The rivets are just a point of a pen pushed in on the reverse side.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/b8fc1de2.jpg~original)
Starting to glue the panels in place. I've glued them at the bottom, I'll wait until the glue is dry, then glue the rest of the panel into shape and then trim the panel with a sharpe knife.
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;D freak'in awesome!
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Well I've started on my 'sub'mission (pun intended ::) ).
It's a bit bigger then the one Andy suggested but still follows the idea (cheers Andy :D )
At the moment it's about 300mm long and 50mm in diameter. There will be a prop at the rear along with some tailplanes and some foreplanes at the front. I think I'll put a small conning tower on top with a small naval gun of some sort :)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF7075.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF7076.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF7077.jpg)
I know the rear looks impractical but it looks cool :D
I think I'll also add a couple of low side hatches so 'ground' troops can disembark. I'm also thinking lights...
cheers
James
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Lovely stuff both of you :-* :-* :-*
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Bibblywibbly, which end do the batteries go in? ;) lol
It's looking great already. :)
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Bibblywibbly, which end do the batteries go in? ;) lol
:o :o :o
Very nice basis for a sub.
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Bibblywibbly, which end do the batteries go in? ;) lol
Wouldn't you like to know... lol
The tail end comes off and I will probably make a cradle for the gubbins to go on that will slide in and out :)
cheers
James
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Bibblywibbly, which end do the batteries go in? ;) lol
Dirty old man.
Great stuff chaps :-*. For a nano second I thought about joining in with this building project but the bar has been set way too high.
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Great stuff chaps :-*. For a nano second I thought about joining in with this building project but the bar has been set way too high.
Buts that's the whole idea behind this thread TC, to try and get as many people involved as possible. You've got to remember TC we've seen your stuff on this website already so we know it's a crap excuse!
Finished the main part of the dome. I've still got to make window frames and put in clear plastic for glass, but I'll do that after painting. The edges of the plastic card need to be filled a wee bit, the knife cut in too deep at points. I also dropped the plastic dome cracking it slightly, so I've had to add some Victorian repair patches!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a1e7d345.jpg~original)
Panels getting put on. I put three on with spaces in-between and cut them to size when the glue was dry, then put the remaining three on.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e441949f.jpg~original)
Finished dome with plastic card/riveted straps across the clear dome.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bc6ad6c4.jpg~original)
Cracks in the dome with the 'repairs'.
What do you think?
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I think it looks great :D
I think on the curvy side panels some sort of filigree work needs to added between the windows and the edges just break up the surface a bit.
Or saying that, maybe a fancy upstand to the joins between the panels.
cheers
James
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Shame about the cracks :'( :'( :'(
The shapes your are getting out of the plastic card are amazing :o :o :o
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Buts that's the whole idea behind this thread TC, to try and get as many people involved as possible. You've got to remember TC we've seen your stuff on this website already so we know it's a crap excuse!
Ah. ;)
It looks great Andy. Rivets aside the curved edges give it that Victorian look. You may have already mentioned it but have you thought about a colour scheme? I suppose a brass or copper colour springs to mind, similar to the helmets on the old diving suits but then again I have an unhealthy fixation with those hues.
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Awesome work up so far!
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Jim- I had to look up what filigree was! Anything I can find looks way complicated! Tried a simples version..
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d8129c7b.jpg~original)
What do you think? Got an ideas or drawings that might be easy to do?
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Simples is good :)
How about just some circles in the corner that are part of the frame, maybe that would be easier and look a better?
(looks good how it is though :) )
cheers
James
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(looks good how it is though :) )
cheers
James
I like it, its says octopus limb to me when I looked at it, so immediately I thought perfect for the nautical theme. :)
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I like it, its says octopus limb to me when I looked at it, so immediately I thought perfect for the nautical theme. :)
And it will appeal to the Japanese audience. lol
Anyway, lovely piece. May I suggest adding rivet strips to the inside of the cupola to cover up the "view" of the glue area? Apologies if you were already planning it - I once messed up a perfectly good model because I forgot to paint the inside of the struts before glueing them on, and couldn't add more struts to the inside...
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Buts that's the whole idea behind this thread TC, to try and get as many people involved as possible. You've got to remember TC we've seen your stuff on this website already so we know it's a crap excuse!
Finished the main part of the dome. I've still got to make window frames and put in clear plastic for glass, but I'll do that after painting. The edges of the plastic card need to be filled a wee bit, the knife cut in too deep at points. I also dropped the plastic dome cracking it slightly, so I've had to add some Victorian repair patches!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a1e7d345.jpg)
Panels getting put on. I put three on with spaces in-between and cut them to size when the glue was dry, then put the remaining three on.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e441949f.jpg)
Finished dome with plastic card/riveted straps across the clear dome.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bc6ad6c4.jpg)
Cracks in the dome with the 'repairs'.
What do you think?
Sealab 1820!
It's beautiful.
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I am impressed to the point of speechlessness...a condition to which I am am rarely subject. WONDERFULLY WELL DONE!
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A small update....
The plaster seems to work. No cracks and the rocks are solid. I've painted them and added small bits of bush and aquarium plants to look like seaweed. I also sculpted some starfish, shells and the odd crab.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d425e97c.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/13671ef9.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/797896a3.jpg~original)
They worked out that well that I've got another bundle just started that will start to fill up the table.
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Brilliant :-*
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Looking good :-* :-* :-*
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Wow Andy, the colours on those are great :-* :-* :-*
cheers
James
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I also sculpted some starfish, shells and the odd crab.
I'm impressed even with that! I couldn't sculpt a cucumber if I tried.
Looking good Andy.
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Wow! That is good! :-*
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aamzing!
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i absolutely WANT a tutorial about cutting plasticard with those wonderful shapes. how did you do that?
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amazing designs . LIKE!!!
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What's on with all those Aquanauts projects? Everybody lost interest?
Too quiet on the underwater front ... :D
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I have something small on the go but currently awaiting a few bits...
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I'm busy making an underwater Kugel for the Prussians and a Sub Tube for the British... haven't actually gotten around to doing any.. doing.. yet. I think my primary objects has to be to figure out some custom transporting system that will allow my brittle styrene constructions to survive airport security.
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I've stalled a wee bit on the underwater base. I've got a couple of wee things to finish for a .45 adventure mini campaign then it's back to work.
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I've stalled a wee bit on the underwater base. I've got a couple of wee things to finish for a .45 adventure mini campaign then it's back to work.
*kicks AndyM in his trousers*
Get on with it you lazy bum! What do you think this is? A hobby?!
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:D
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Anybody seen this WIP from Heresy
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/crabmanidea_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/crabmanidea_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
Maybe useful.
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i have looked at the domed piece and am i understanding it correctly that the half moon shape on the lower area is the sub docking area or "moon pool". i read no mention of this ,if i just missed it i apologise for repeating anothers question or info you have already stated. thanks. :)
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I've decided to attempt a Hergé Shark Submarine for this.
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Gun Bunny- yeah that was the plan. I was thinking of making it removable. I've made a wee killer whale landing craft and I was planning to use the same water effect from that project on the moon pool. Make it some sort of insert that I can take out or cover, then I could cheat and use the base as a moonbase as well for a future project.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/45a1c95a.jpg~original)
Dr The Viking- that'll be cool. I couldn't work out how to make a shark, there's some difficult shapes if your building it from scratch!
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outstanding one of the things i love more than making scratch built stuff is using it for more than one setting. :D :D :D
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My other project is finished, waiting to play with our Wednesday night gaming group. I don't want to show it until they've seen it. But that's been taking a lot of time and with LPL about to start I haven't had much time. So now it's time to get back on track for BLAM...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/3ef0ebbd.jpg~original)
That's three sheets of pink foam and a bucket of plaster. I've now got the time AND the good lady is away all week. Perfect to try and get the board done.
Any ideas or suggestion would be much appreciated........
Edit....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c1d12ab9.jpg~original)
Just tried everything on it I've made so far.
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Right, I cut out the abyss using a steak knife(it's got a serrated edge)and just cut grooves into it to make it look like rock. Once covered in plaster it should look alright. I have a joiners plane(right spelling) that I was using to take a bit off of the doors in my house. It has an edge like a rasp file, great for making valleys in the foam....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/705b9b19.jpg~original)
Once that was done I covered the boards in plaster, and to add some sort of texture, used the brush and stippled all over it. I'm trying to make it look like the patterns you see in the sand, don't know if it's working. What do you think?
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/93ec2b23.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/50181771.jpg~original)
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Other project sounds interesting :D
Rememebr to tidy up before next Sunday lol
Where are you going to store this when it is finished?
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Great stuff Andy 8)
Good to see this carrying on :)
cheers
James
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I think the stippling works, but won't the plaster flake off in such a thin layer? Hopefully not.
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Looking great already. :)
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By the other project, do you mean the moon or do you mean the Japanese samurai project using jims funky buildings Colin? Store it? Have I forgot to ask nicely again? :D
The plaster, Dean, seems to be quite solid. I'm hoping, that if I don't juggle it or bash it, we should still have a board for BLAM.
Cheers guys!
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You could give the plaster a coat of pva to seal it which might go some way to help protect it :)
I have funky buildings waiting for you ;D ;)
cheers
James
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Looks good Andy, the effect works nicely.
Colin? Store it? Have I forgot to ask nicely again? :D
Oooh, if I asked nicely..........
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What about instead of just PVA, I layer it with dry sand as well? Would that be btter as opposed to spray painting it? Go for a more natural colour?
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I got bored last night and started thinking about vehicles etc. What do you think to this as a sub design? Wanted something that looked more 'practical' than the fish subs and that would fit in with my American force.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5596216424_a49fc0c17e_z.jpg)
This is a small explorer/fighter sub. The sketchup model is done to scale but obviously difficult to tell that from a pic :) It's about 30mm from one flat edge to another. The idea being someone would be in it as an operator lying down. In theory there is room for another person behind them but I put that room in for batteries/aether crystals/'insert powersource'. The two angled panels underneath the cockpit would be where weapons/manipulator arms would be mounted.
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I like it - it reminds me favourably of the minisub from "Spirou". I have to say, though, that the "straight" cylindrical shape looks a bit clunky. If I may be so bold, I'd suggest tapering at least the rear portion towards the propeller mount - the fins, however, should continue to the point where the taper begins to preserve the "straight" look if viewed from the side.
If you are so inclined, a short, slightly tapered section could also be inserted at the bow, just to make it look just a little bit sleeker - not too much, as you want it to look a bit old-fashioned...
That said, I think it is quite VSFey in its look, and the front is a nice touch.
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I love the fins and the front glass! Do you have something in your bits box for the front? I've got a smoked plastic dome off of a mini-dome security camera spare you can have.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/1f5d12fa.jpg~original)
I would second chris' idea, make it more tapered....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/57b46358.jpg~original)
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Good feedback guys, cheers. Andy, you're annoying, you know that right? ;) Drawings....
I think I have something suitable for the front dome, cheers. Although I was kind of thinking these would be squadron type vehicles...
I'd originally gone with the flat sides to tie in with the steamspiders I built but looking at the drawing and thinking about it you're right, tapering does look better. I don't want to increase the size as these are supposed to be small and Andy's drawing looks/feels bulkier so I've modded the design somewhat. The front and back have been tapered and the collar around the dome has been reduced. What do you think?
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5141/5598471669_19f4bcb207_b.jpg)
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Good feedback guys, cheers. Andy, you're annoying, you know that right? ;) Drawings....
I agree :D
Do you know what is even more annoying, is that he probably done the scetch quicker than the time it took you to write this post lol
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(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5141/5598471669_19f4bcb207_b.jpg)
That is pretty much what I had in mind, although I would suggest at least a ventral and dorsal "fin" to provide some protection for the screw and enforce the "longitudinal sleekness" if viewed from the side. A bit like this:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/minisub.jpg)
Mainly it would serve to avoid a "gap" between the centre section and the tail.
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I would suggest at least a ventral and dorsal "fin" to provide some protection for the screw and enforce the "longitudinal sleekness" if viewed from the side.
Totally agree and I did intend to do it but I couldn't be bothered last night :)
I agree :D
Do you know what is even more annoying, is that he probably done the scetch quicker than the time it took you to write this post lol
Yeah, that is annoying.
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Andy's design looks like 'USS Kaleidoscope' and Dewies like 'USS Stokes bomb'
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Well, looks like I might be able to field a squadron of these. Managed to interest a friend of mine in the concept and he wants to make it so it can be cast in resin. Possibly with clear domes so a figure could be put in. After which it could be made available.
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Well, looks like I might be able to field a squadron of these. Managed to interest a friend of mine in the concept and he wants to make it so it can be cast in resin. Possibly with clear domes so a figure could be put in. After which it could be made available.
That's a great idea - I think you could use some lying MG crewman, e.g. Copplestone or Renegade as a pilot.
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On schedule for Blam?
would really like to see this one
Barry
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Just a little thing for my bit of this project.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/1912_07_08_11_1_59_49.JPG)
Can you guess what it is?
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It's going to be a squid based submersible?
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Not a clue.
But I have a feeling in due time all will be revealed. :D
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Is it a Zeppelin larva? ;)
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How did I miss this thread? My gods, this stuff is gorgeous and inspiring as all hell!
Hmm, how can I make Free Norway build a submarine force...hmm.
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Just thought I'd let everybody involved in this that I haven't let my end up. My part will still be ready for BLAM.
Gamer macs got the boards ready for painting and I've got a lot of the terrain at the same stage.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/df08a66a.jpg~original)
The base is still under construction. I made a design for the windows and blu tac'd them in place to see what you all think. I've also started on the interior of the moon pool with pipes and valves and stuff....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/2951c028.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/0acfbe12.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/aaf55cbd.jpg~original)
I hope this all looks ok.....
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Looks ok to me ;D ;D ;D
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And me! Very inspirational.
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Great stuff! Can't wait to see all this coming together ...
:-*
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It's far, far better than OK :)
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Great stuff! Can't wait to see all this coming together ...
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Niether can I lol
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It's all coming together nicely 8)
Just one little thing, I'm not too keen on the control base windows (the rotated square), I think it should be a bit more filagree to fit with the rest and general theme.
You can of course tell me to bugger off :D ;)
cheers
James
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GREAT!!! Truely great.
Pete
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys, it really keeps me going. I was hoping if I brought this up again it might inspire people get back into their own subs for BLAM.
Just one little thing, I'm not too keen on the control base windows (the rotated square), I think it should be a bit more filagree to fit with the rest and general theme.
You can of course tell me to bugger off :D ;)
I would never tell you to bugger off Jim ;), but I think that may be a bit beyond me! Unless of course you can suggest where to get windows with filigree that are 50mm in diameter?
I was trying to copy something similar I'd seen from a picture one of our members had posted a while back. I think it was Dampfpanzerwagon...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/7b5f62cb.jpg~original)
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I've decided to attempt a Hergé Shark Submarine for this.
Better get around to doing it then,... lol
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PM on it's way Andy :)
And funnily enough, I got my torpedo sub out again at the weekend and did a bit more on it :D
cheers
James
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I've finally recieved some parts so mine will be started again in the next couple of days.
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This may be taking things a bit far....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a25e9d33.jpg~original)
I had lights that lit up the area behind my telly and when my good lady repainted the living room she didn't want them back up, so they may have found a new home. This is only a temp set up, we'll need to hide the wires to make look good.
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Oh, now that's looking lovely ;D
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Mine! Mine! Allllllllll mine!.....aha, ha, ha!
Sorry back to reality!
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Just a couple of obstacles for out of control subs to run into.
I've used a few ping pong balls and stuck 5mm plastic card circles all over them. Rivets are pressed into the back of them before gluing and small bits of solder are stuck on after as detonators. The chains are made from rings of solder. The piece of straight wire will be hidden by seaweed.
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There's no stopping him :o 8) :-*
Great stuff Andy, you'll be a small parcel sometime next week ;)
cheers
James
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Those mines are frigging brilliant! BRILLIANT! :-*
It is at times like these that I actually regret not living on your side of the pond, so that I could come to games which include such scenery. Alas, all I can do is attempt to emulate it.
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I'm not sure I'm 100% happy with these, but I suppose they'll do.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ef309d42.jpg~original)
I was hoping the wire would be less obvious.
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This may be taking things a bit far....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a25e9d33.jpg)
I had lights that lit up the area behind my telly and when my good lady repainted the living room she didn't want them back up, so they may have found a new home. This is only a temp set up, we'll need to hide the wires to make look good.
This reminds me of that old computer game 'X-COM: UFO Defense'.
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I was hoping the wire would be less obvious.
How about painting the wire to match the seaweed and putting more on that almost reaches the mines, giving the appearance of them floating through a forest of the stuff?
(I like 'em :D )
cheers
James
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How about painting the wire to match the seaweed and putting more on that almost reaches the mines, giving the appearance of them floating through a forest of the stuff?
(I like 'em :D )
cheers
James
I like 'em too, :D
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I agree with Jim, paint the wire the same colour as the weed. They will look fine.
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Very nice indeed!!! :-*
You could think about using the wire and running it through the chain links so it's a bit more hidden? Seaweed works well, just another idea.
The Commander
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Just to prove that I am doing something for our game while my brother is anyway gallivanting on holiday.
It is to provide cover for the subs during the game so it needed to be big.
The commercial versions were either too small or too expensive.
So I went down my usual route and built it myself.
Initial idea
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/1912_20_08_11_11_26_52.JPG)
Progress shots
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Just need to work out what colours to paint it.
Need to add some stuff to make it look a bit more underwatery.
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Ooo, that does the job 8) :-*
How about some little fishes on very fine piano wire 'swimming' around the columns. Seaweed would go down well also (the same sort as Andy's).
cheers
James
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Colin that is great. You have a lot more patience than me to carve it so neatly and the columns are inspired :-* I just know I would have thrown my toys out the pram trying to do that.
How about adding a larger altar stone or fallen wall with relief carvings? I have some fish that are halves or flats that may be ideal?
They are actually of antique samurai robe clasps that come in pairs, a left and right, and I think would look good painted as part of the stonework. James has seen them, what do you think JimBob?
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Use the fish ones certainly or maybe even the bird ones as Atlantis was above the waves ;)
I'll need a few more of them if you have them Svennn dear boy :D
cheers
James
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Superb, Colin. What materials do you use for the columns?
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Thanks guys
Fish sound like a good idea. It’s going to be a bit of an old ruin so no need for really detailed reliefs. I should be able to knock out something rough myself.
There is a mosaic embossed in the floor of the temple. Hard to get a decent photo of it but it should paint up good. It is an Atlantis symbol I found that was easy to do.
Admiral the columns are made from various materials.
Main shape is a plastic tube, rapped in corrugated cardboard. The round bit at the top is out of a drinks bottle.Just happens to fit the plastic tube nicely. The bottom is cut out of pink foam. Painted some of them with textured paint.
Dead simple to make and I think they look like what I was after.
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The fallen column is just smaller bits of tube cut up and a plastic card circle to close off the ends.
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Colin, that is superb, absolutely brilliant. Absolutely cannot wait to see and play it. :-*
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I may be on holiday but I can still get internet!!
That looks cracking! :o :o :o Are you going leave the columns loose so the subs can knock them over during the game?
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I dont know why but when I search unread posts my eyes always ignore sticky's which means I miss updates on threads such as this one >:(.
Cracking work chaps and inspired as usual :-* :-*.
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Next bit of the temple.
The lintels, if that is what you call them?
Side ones
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Front one
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In place. Not glued yet though.
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Looks a bit disjointed at the moment. I am hoping the textured paint will help pull it together. Hide some of the rough bits :D
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Just for you, pinched off the net :D
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/forColin.jpg)
I can't remember most of the classical stuff I was taught :( so a quick trip to the net is in order :)
cheers
James
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Beautiful ;D
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Cool!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I'm SO tired of creative, talented people.... Think I'll join a forum of alcoholized washouts, instead....
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First coat of paint
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Nice work. 8) Just one thought, though: Wouldn't aquarium deco pieces have been sufficient for this particular project..? ;)
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I couldn't find one of the size I wanted that my wallet liked! This only cost the price of the materials and I had them sitting about already.
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Bloody Brilliant :-* I am sooo looking forward to playing this game. Its only nine weeks away now :o
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I couldn't find one of the size I wanted that my wallet liked!
You're making a strong point! :)
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Finished the temple ruins.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_07_09_11_1_38_42_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_07_09_11_1_38_42_1.JPG)
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Just noticed in the photos that I forgot to paint the star fish. I may still add some other ones to the other temple bits.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_07_09_11_1_39_53_1.JPG)
This photo shows up the Atlantis symbol on the floor better
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_07_09_11_1_39_53_2.JPG)
Now back to building subs and sea weed.
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Ooo, me likey ;D
Are we still making our own subs for this ???
cheers
James
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It looks great. Have you decided on rules yet?
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Thanks Guys
We are hoping some people will bring their own subs.
Like they said they would :D
But we are accounting for the nature of wargamers by ensuring we have enough contraptions. Between me and my brother we are building contraptions for six players.
We have a basic, one pager, set of rules but have still to play test them. Will post them up after we have done that, to get other peoples input.
We also have another one pager on sub design rules, Again we will post them after a play test. Basically each sub is allocated points. The points can then be spent on five or six important systems on the sub e.g. engines, weapons, hull etc The more points spent means that system is better but to the detriment of other things, if you make it too good.
The basic design rules should allow just about any kind of sub design.
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Sounds good to me :D
cheers
James
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Great work Colin!!! :o :o :o
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Looking forward to having a read. I like simple rulesets.
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The rules we have come up with for the game.
Please feel free to comment and any suggestions are welcome.
We have never really written our own rules but we have tried to keep these nice and simple. They seemed to produce a good quick game.
First off the sub building rules
Sub Build Rules
Structureeach sub has 10 points free. The 10 points can also be split between smaller subs i.e. two times 5 points or three times 3 points subs etc
60 points to spread amongst the other internal components.
Armour
Controls/Manoeuvrability – Minimum 5 points and then every 5 points extra allows for an extra 45 degree turn to be used at any point during your move.
Power –
Power/structure x 5 = Movement in Inches
Weapons – torpedoes (5 points each)
Weapons – Close combat (amount of points = damage caused)
Life support (Minimum 5 points)
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And the actual rules
Rules
Initiative
Roll D6 to win initiative.
Any torpedoes in play move first, in initiative order.
The subs/walkers then move in order
Movement - submarines
Three speeds available both forward and reverse
Stop/half speed/Full ahead
Can only move up or down a speed every turn
Every vehicle has one free 45 degree at the end of its move.
Submarines are free to move over the smaller pieces of terrain.
Movement – walkers
Any speed on any turn.
Walkers gain an extra free 45 degree turn that can be used at any time during the turn.
Walkers can’t cross the abyss.
Repair rolls
If you stay stationary for a turn you can repair one damaged component.
Roll a D6. 1 to 5 is the number of points repaired. A 6 means “Where’s that spanner” the component is un-repairable this turn.
Damage
Got to get through the armour before damage to internal systems starts.
After getting through the armour roll a D6
1) Controls/Manoeuvrability
2) Power
3) Weapons – torpedoes
4) Weapons – Close combat
5) Life support
6) Structure
If a location can’t take all the damage it moves down the table to the next location
Combat
The target number to hit is the current control value of the sub attacking.
Damage is the current close combat weapon value of the attacking sub.
Torpedoes
Initial launch speed 8”
If no contact is made, on the next turn roll a D6.
3 to 6 = torpedoes travels that distance in a straight line
1 or 2 = Off course roll D6 1,2,3 left or 4,5,6 right. Roll D6 again for movement.
10 points of damage on contact.
Torpedoes can’t cross terrain
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What about infantry types?
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Couple of questions first if I may :)
Regarding the ten free points, does this mean that the subs actually have 70 points to spend and what is the total force pointage composition (if that makes sense as a sentence)?
I'm assuming that subs have to be in relative close proximity for the close combat weapons to be in effect (daft question, I know, but I'm just making sure)?
So each total numeric figure in the sub build rules sections are the stat amounts that are counted for damage taken, repaired etc?
Is the armour only punched through once for the whole sub or does each section have a separate armour rating (same value, just a different location)? After the armour has been taken out does any further damage go directly on the internal systems?
I'm assuming no electric weapons are permitted :D
I like the look of the rules, there's a bit of paper work involved but for vehicles and the like I don't really mind :)
Looking forward to this more and more :D
cheers
James
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Theres 70 points to spend on your entire force. As colin said, the initial 10 can be split into as many craft as you want, i.e. 1 sub has 10 structure, 2 subs have 5 points each, 3 subs have 3 structure points(always round down), etc. The other 60 is your build points that can be allocated,
as you see fit, between all your craft. Again if you have 2 subs you may wish to split your 60 points, 30 points in each sub.
In close combat we decided that our subs had to be touching to be engaged in combat, but if you design something that can be SHOWN on your model that gives some sort of extended reach, then its the reach of the model. Remember though if your have something protruding from the front, its likely to get shot off and make your sub easier to hit. We also decided that if a torpedo hits anything sticking out of your sub(i.e. fins, feet, spar torpedos,etc.) then that torpedo strikes the sub!!
So each total numeric figure in the sub build rules sections are the stat amounts that are counted for damage taken, repaired etc?
This is correct. It also gives the value of damage for your close combat weapon and how fast your vehicle goes and how hard it is to hit with your close combat weapon.
The armour value for the sub is as a whole. Locations for damage are only rolled after the subs armour has been blown off!!!
Any close combat weapons you can dream up can be used. Your only limit is the points placed in said weapon. Torpedos are the only missile weapon available though...
Remember its not essential that people bring subs we will have 6 ready, but I can imagine it being a lot nore fun with peolpe with their own!
Colin-Its maybe worth modifying the walkers section. Walkers cannot cross terrain, not just the aybss.
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What about infantry types?
Sorry Dean, Westfella Chris was originally supposed to write up the rules( probably a better man than us at doing it!!)and I think he was planning for everything, but we haven't heard from him recently. We were trying to keep things simple for our first set of rules. If you can offer us any simple ideas that complement our rules feel free....
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Thanks Andy :D
I'll be designing mine today then (already started the build 8) ).
cheers
James
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Colin-Its maybe worth modifying the walkers section. Walkers cannot cross terrain, not just the aybss.
We maybe need to clarify that when we finalise the board. Things like the temple, there is room for walkers to fit in there and some walkers maybe big enough to step over some of the smaller pieces.
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There had better be plenty of pictures of this game when it happens. I'm always pleased when I see this thread pop up on my 'new replies' list :D
As a kid I loved that 'underwater star trek' programme (something DSV?) and, of course, 20,00 Leagues, Clash of the Titans and any Bond film with underwater bits, so I think the whole idea and execution is just dandy! Interesting as well to see the collective thought process that goes into a project like this. Keep up the good work, chaps :)
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Movement - submarines[/b]
Three speeds available both forward and reverse
Stop/half speed/Full ahead
Can only move up or down a speed every turn
Every vehicle has one free 45 degree at the end of its move.
Submarines are free to move over the smaller pieces of terrain.
I have completely forgotten about manoeuvring in my own river game. Why have you chosen to let them make up to a 45 degree turn *at the end* of their move rather than during?
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We were thinking of it as a kind of drift for the subs, but more importantly, we're going to have some torpedoes zooming about. If someone has to move forward first it may make them run into the path of a torpedo! It let's sub commanders try to guess the probable path of a target sub.
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I think that seabed needs a crashed Zeppelin... ;) :D
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Ooo, now you've got me thinking...
How about a model of the Lusitainia :D
I have completely forgotten about manoeuvring in my own river game. Why have you chosen to let them make up to a 45 degree turn *at the end* of their move rather than during?
It does make you have to think a hell of a lot more when planning your moves :)
I've played a few games like that and does make for a better game.
cheers
James
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Erm, shame on me, indeed - when it became clear that it became obvious that I'd be moving back to Germany, hence unable to attend Blam, somehow the Aquanauts project dropped from my attention. I did, however, complete a pretty much complete set of rules for infantry, and I'll be happy to post them (although I have to locate the USB stick first, but tomorrow).
Basically, I provided for various types, classified by "metabolism" (i.e. lung and gill breathers and amphibian organisms), and movement type, (i.e. natural swimmers, learned swimmers, and footsloggers which have to walk on the seabed).
I had a slightly different mechanism for combat, but I'll adapt it to match your rules and put up the complete rules tomorrow.
Again, terribly sorry.
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Again, terribly sorry.
I'm just sorry you won't make it to BLAM! The original game was supposed to be our two subs fighting! It's ashame.
James- we talked of doing a sunken paddle steamer with the captain, dead, but still draped over the wheel. The only problem is the time we have left! 7 weeks to BLAM!!
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It does make you have to think a hell of a lot more when planning your moves :)
I think I'll have my teams plot their course on a laminated sea-(river-)chart. The tugboat and the steamer are allowed up to a 45 degree turn during their course. The motor launches, being more nimble in the water, are allowed up to a 90 degree turn.
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Just a small update...
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I've still got a bit of work to do. Jimbibbly has very kindly offered to supply laser cut window frames to jazz the model up!!!! I thought I'd post this up to see what you all think. Wither I'm going in the right direction or not?
Cheers!
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Its looking bloody brilliant ;D
Absolutely cannot wait to see it, only seven weeks to go :D
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:o :o :o :o :o
Wow!
That looks amazing!
The metalwork looks fantastic. Great paint job.
Edit; What have you used for the water?
Is it some sort of plastic, or is it a 'water effect' thingymajig?
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That is stunning!
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:o :o :o :o :o
Wow!
That looks amazing!
The metalwork looks fantastic. Great paint job.
Edit; What have you used for the water?
Is it some sort of plastic, or is it a 'water effect' thingymajig?
Cheers guys. It's good to get positive feedback! Mason the water is polyfilla on a bit of card. It's just pressed repeatedly with a soggy finger to make wave shapes, painted GW regal blue, washed with chaos black, and highlight with hawk turquoise, the spacewolf grey, then White. Followed by a liberal amount of cheap gloss varnish.
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WOW looking great :-* :-* :-*
Malamute will you please stop reminding us of how little time we have left ;)
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Malamute will you please stop reminding us of how little time we have left ;)
What? that there are only seven weeks left?
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Cheers guys. It's good to get positive feedback! Mason the water is polyfilla on a bit of card. It's just pressed repeatedly with a soggy finger to make wave shapes, painted GW regal blue, washed with chaos black, and highlight with hawk turquoise, the spacewolf grey, then White. Followed by a liberal amount of cheap gloss varnish.
Thanks for the info, Andym!
Will be giving that one a go.
Must acquire a 'soggy finger' ASAP!
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Malamute will you please stop reminding us of how little time we have left ;)
He's a bugger isn't he ::) lol
Looks fantastic Andy :-* :-*
It's going to be one corker of a board to play on :)
cheers
James
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Fabulous Andy. Well done. Great modelling.
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wonderful pieces, andy! :)
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Just great, Andy!
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WOW! :o :-*
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This is unreal. It is simply amazing. I wish I could build/play on boards like this.
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Your game project is truely fantastic. The effort put into it leaves me in awe. I live in the USA so will not be able to attend the convention. I rarely go to conventtions to tell the truth because Im cheap and not much catches my interest. If your game was in a US convention I would be going.
Al
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looks absolutely superb... the water looks great as well...
thought on the water though - may be a bit over complicated... after the soggy finger technique, could you not make a mold of it and then try casting one in clear or tinted resin that slots in the insert, but still lets you see the bottom...
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Sure. But I'm afraid I didn't have any resin to use at the time. The other option would have been a clear bit of acrylic sheet with varnish on top for waves.
I needed a wee break from doing the base( it seems never ending just now!). Gamer mac gave me ( read I stole!!)a great piece to use in making another sub. I've been struggling with a design I like, but I finally got one I'd like to build.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/8ebb463e.jpg~original)
Sorry, all I had to hand when I drew it was a brown envelope. It's supposed to be a turtle sub.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9c2724bb.jpg~original)
The cockpit is a washing up soap dispenser. The rest is just card. Both plastic and normal stuff. I'm going to add rounded armour plates to the shell to mimic a turtle shell. My only problem so far is it may be a bit big!!
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:o :-*
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My only problem so far is it may be a bit big!!
So you're upping the arms race are you...
We'll see about that ;D
cheers
James
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My first thought when I seen the picture is "That's huge" :o :o :o
We need a bigger table ;)
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Great troop transport!
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looks REALLY promising! =)
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Oh yes! without doubt my favourite idea of yours so far :D
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I really admire the way you're letting your imaginations run away with you. Not only that, you're making them real to!
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Will we see manta ray one-man-subs to?
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Shark subs like on that Tin Tin cover.
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That's great Andy! And I like the brown envelope,makes the sketch look patinated(sic lol),like an Leonardo ;)
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Just gets better and better :-*
If we're making suggestions, though, I always wanted one of these from seaQuest DSV:
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Wow! Thanks for all the amazing comments of support!
So you're upping the arms race are you...
We'll see about that ;D
cheers
James
It's not really upping the arms race as such, I think it's just making a bigger target!! The turtle only has two torpedo tubes at the front and nothing else.
.Will we see manta ray one-man-subs to?
Gamer mac's got a whale, a crab and two diving suits. I've made a normal fish sub, a squid ( still to finish!), and now a turtle. I don't think we've got time for other designs before BLAM. Maybe after.
Anyway the builds finished. I think it's been the quickest ever for me!
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Two torpedo tubes have been drilled and plastic piping inserted.
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The arse end with two wee flippers.
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Some added detail, just because I like to.
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I've made up a base using a old CD. The rocks are made using the same foam as the rocks for the board. There's a few wires through them to support the sub and make it look as though it's drifting over the seabed.
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Brilliant idea and brilliant execution - just superb :-*
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You forgot to mention the barracuda I have as well.
Love the turtle :-* :-* :-*
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Very nice Andy 8)
This game has togo on tour :D
cheers
James
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That is fabulous, Andy!
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Sorry Colin, I knew I was forgetting something!
With the turtle build finished, I've started my squid sub build up again.
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(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ccfb1c14.jpg~original)
.....and being chased by a giant unpainted turtle!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/03d1fa24.jpg~original)
When pay day comes I need to get some spray paint to do the turtle. I'm thinking of a green top(to emphasise the turtle part) and cream underneath. On the other tentacles for the squid I plan to put suction pads, spikes and a buzz-saw.
Cheers anyway!
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Soooooo exciting to see these coming together. ;D
By the way its only six weeks to BLAM now lol
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The imaginative ways all of you guys are coming up with for sub-creation(?!?) are very inspiring!
I will never look at the washing detergent the same way again.....
('That used to be a poor little turtle submarine, you know? The bastards are going to wipe 'em out if they keep this up!'
-As they cart me away in the white van outside the supermarket!)
Superb stuff!
Love it!!!
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:D ...Your going to need a bigger board... :D
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By the way its only six weeks to BLAM now lol
Someone shut him up lol
I think you're going to need a bigger board ;D
Looks great by the way 8)
cheers
James
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The imaginative ways all of you guys are coming up with for sub-creation(?!?) are very inspiring!
I will never look at the washing detergent the same way again.....
I've already got dibs on my good lady's shower gel bottle.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/7c28b7e5.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/69c6a421.jpg~original)
I think it looks very fishy even without any work. I'm sure other commercially available soaps are good to!!!
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Girl friends soap :o
FOCUS >:(
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Oh my goodness, how on earth had I missed this incredible thread. It's an armada!
I don't have much to add, but has anyone suggested using some of these figures? It's the old Mage Knight Submersible Golem (appeared in two sets).
(http://mk.strats-welt.at/grafs/NexusRes/MKNX_011.jpg)
Various ebay listings (http://tinyurl.com/3jv8m8c)
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Girl friends soap :o
FOCUS >:(
lol lol lol
Can I see special shopping trips on the horizon :D
cheers
James
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Sorry for all the posts tonight, but I seem to be on a roll over the last few days for getting things finished. My squid shaped can opener is ready...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/79af86a1.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/89c7bce2.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a4be2e73.jpg~original)
Cheers anyway.
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lol lol lol
Can I see special shopping trips on the horizon :D
cheers
James
My wife is well-trained now. She never throws anything away, before asking if I could use it for my toys. ;) The children are in various states of compliance to this rule.
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Cheers Bezzo! Although you may just be exaggerating a wwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeee bit. lol
I've managed to finish the squid sub as well as doing more on the seabase and turtle sub.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/89efebd3.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e073ea41.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/1a54e534.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/44491ad7.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/10b8bad6.jpg~original)
I'll get shots of the base and turtle when mores been done.
Cheers!
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Beautiful :-* :-*
cheers
James
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Absolutely wonderful work!
Would love to see all these wonderful machinations on the tabletop.
They look amazing and will look wonderful battling out on that table.
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brilliant, pure genius. :-*
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The design in itself was already pretty amazing but the paintjob just add a whole new dimension, perfect work 8)
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WOW :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Perfect paint job.
What paints did you use?
Spray or brush?
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When I am King-Emperor, you lot are going to be
rounded up and forced invited to build my sub-sea navy.
These. Are. awesome :-* :-*
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Thanks for all the encouraging comments guys, but we've hit a bit of a problem. My brother, Gamer Mac, is starting a new job tomorrow. He's working 12 hours, 5 days a week, so there's not going to be much time for this project. (real life gets in the way and all that!! :'() I'm going to continue on and try and get as much done as I can, but I don't think we're going to manage to be finished for BLAM!!! :'( :'(
Anyway just a wee update on the base...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9540793e.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/375dae0a.jpg~original)
I've also painted the turtle green, but it's not worth showing yet.
Colin- the squid is brush painted. Base coat of GW Mercite Red, washed with dark flesh/chaos black mix, highlighted with dark flesh/blood red mix up to blood red and then blood angel orange for the edges and chips, with chaos black painted on the chips to look like a hole in the paintwork.
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Thanks for all the encouraging comments guys, but we've hit a bit of a problem. My brother, Gamer Mac, is starting a new job tomorrow. He's working 12 hours, 5 days a week, so there's not going to be much time for this project. (real life gets in the way and all that!! :'() I'm going to continue on and try and get as much done as I can, but I don't think we're going to manage to be finished for BLAM!!! :'( :'(
Are we not ??? ??? ???
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Sorry, I may have jumped the gun, but I thought you told me on Wednesday night you wouldn't have enough time and you also posted this on your own thread...
Thanks Guys
Neil
I am afraid I am working on real life, trying to get a job :'(
I am starting a temporary one tomorrow, 12 hour shifts with an hours travelling time either side of the shift will curtail my hobby time :'(
We were struggling with time as it is. Sorry I must of miss- heard......
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We have done so much it would be a shame to quit now. If we fail we can just take down the zeppelin again. So keep going we almost have enough stuff.
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But if you fail, I may have to finish my boat and zep docking mast, and that won't do!
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That sounds like a plan Colon!
Damas-don't temp us, we'd all love to see your steamer finished!!
The very talented Jimbibbly sent me up some lasercut plastic card windows for the base. Thanks Jim!! That's saved me a lot of time!! At this point they're just blutacked in and I've pressed rivets into the back of them.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/3f42101d.jpg~original)
I also made up some torpedoes. I was thinking there may be some confusion in the game if there was too many in play at one time, so this is my solution...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d0baf287.jpg~original)
I'm going to try and make ones specific to the types of sub we've got and at this point I've also made four generic ones.
Cheers!
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Fish torpedoes lol that's a great idea 8) :-*
The windows look good in place :)
cheers
James
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I say bring down what you've got. At worst it'll just be a smaller game. Would be such a shame as you've put so much work into it.
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Just something finished to add to the set up....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bf955980.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/edc6627a.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/944e4a4f.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/57760616.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/b5fc495e.jpg~original)
If I was to do it again I'd change the round windows. I made them out of card and they're a bit rough. I think plastic card would be better and make them thinner with maybe a raised frame and some more detail!
Things left for me to do...
Finish the base (should be this week)
Make and finish more torpedoes
Dress the rocks weve got in seaweed and stuff
Get down to BLAM...........
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Drop jaw brilliant :o, my absolute favourite so far. :-*
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Brilliant! :-* :-*
I'll never be able to watch Finding Nemo in the same way again. Not that I watch it much in the first place.............. erm.
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What an absolutely stunning piece!l
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Beautiful Andy :-* :-*
cheers
James
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WOW :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
That is a cracking paint job.
Not too sure about its position on the base though ???
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'nuff said! ;)
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:o :o :o
More stunning work!
This has to be my favourite thread on here at the moment.
Everything being made for this game is superb!
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oh my. your'e doing something unbelievable O.O
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Cheers again for all the great comments guys!
WOW :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
That is a cracking paint job.
Not too sure about its position on the base though ???
Is it the dive it's going into or the angle? It's on four wires so hopefully I can shift it somehow.
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The turtle sub is wonderful. The porthole/window effects are stunning.
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Cheers again for all the great comments guys!
Is it the dive it's going into or the angle? It's on four wires so hopefully I can shift it somehow.
It may just be the photo. I will wait to see it in the flesh.
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Sorry I started getting silly....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e821382c.jpg~original)
......I wanted a couple of wee things to put inside the base to make it look lived in/used. I dare say these things aren't an accurate representation of proper diving kit. Left to right. Compressed air canisters, regulator and umbilicle reel, and last of all, a torpedo being repaired.
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Sorry I started getting silly....
:D nothing wrong with that, where's the enjoyment if we can't go a bit bonkers every now and then :)
cheers
James
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This is just an amazing thread. Love these vehicles. Some of the most fun stuff I've ever seen! :-*
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Sorry I started getting silly....
Nothing wrong with that, dont be silly!!! ;)
A few interior details bring a terrain piece to life.
Well, I reckon so, anyway!
Your work on here is superb and I cant wait to see it all together.
No, I dont!
That would mean that you had finished, and that would be terrible....
Keep going, you are nowhere near finished yet...................... ;)
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Nothing wrong with that, dont be silly!!! ;)
Naaah more silliness, pile it high.
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We tried our first full game today with six players.
AndyM with his Angler fish
Oldschoolrebel with the turtle
Our Friend Andy with a crab tank and a barracuda
Our friend George with the squid
My son with the whale
That left me with a WIP barracuda and a M.A.M.M.A.R.I.E.S
A lot of things happened
After various torpedo hits and some misses
The Whale ate my barracuda.
The turtle killed off the whale after it had been severely mauled by my barracuda
My M.A.M .. scqured a barracuda on his close combat weapon
The squid slaughtered the crab tank
the angler fish killed of my M.A.M.. after a hard fought battle.
The squid and the turtle ganged up on the angler fish
Then after a starter of angler fish the turtle had the squid for lunch.
All in all a good fast, furious, fun game.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_16_10_11_12_01_47_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_16_10_11_12_01_47_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_56_21_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_56_21_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_56_22_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_56_22_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_58_47_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_58_47_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_15_10_11_11_58_47_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_16_10_11_12_01_47_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/1912_16_10_11_12_01_47_2.JPG)
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Wow! ;D
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I really can't wait to have a go on this :-* :-* :-*
cheers
James
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well, that's C R A Z Y!
lol lol lol
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The weirdest thnd about that table is that almost everything is scratch-built :o
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I'm staggered by the vision and the sheer creative genius :o
Absolutely outstanding :-*
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The Whale ate my barracuda.
The turtle killed off the whale after it had been severely mauled by my barracuda
My M.A.M .. scqured a barracuda on his close combat weapon
The squid slaughtered the crab tank
the angler fish killed of my M.A.M.. after a hard fought battle.
The squid and the turtle ganged up on the angler fish
Then after a starter of angler fish the turtle had the squid for lunch.
:o
Sounds like a really fun game. lol
Fantastic board and Aquanauts. Extraordinary... really extraordinary!
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Wow I wish I knew just one other guy as dedicated to making progress as one of you guys!
Stunning! lol
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We've started making up templates for all the subs we have. The stats on the fish sub are the basic ones. They make up the 'average' sub for our game.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a8ea13ba.jpg~original)
This sub has two torpedoes. The rest of the stats are shown. One dot equals one point spent for that area. It moves 5" and only has one 45degree turn at the end of it's move.
If anybody else is planning their own subs for the game, if you send me a picture I'll happily make you up a template for the game if you want.
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wow, that's interesting!
Ok, probably you've told that dozens of times, but... what ruleset are you using? :)
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Template looks great.
Will send you photos of my stuff later on.
We are just using home brewed rules. We posted a copy earlier on in the thread. I will go back and check they are the most up to date.
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Just a complete stunner.
Still love the pens-turned-torpedoes. :-*
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Extraordinary stunning!
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I hope those rules are up to date because I just copied and paste-ed them to make these. I thought they may be of some use to somebody. I've also put on the other two cards I made....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/6623aca0.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9d2d60e8.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/39dea738.jpg~original)
...and the other two subs do far as well.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/96647406.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/3484c841.jpg~original)
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Yep Looks good to me :-*
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i have been following this tread for a long time and wow . could you put some tutorial for the subs especially the size of it.i want to make one and i was woundering how big it should be.and what rules you're using for this game.
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Pastru79-The rules we're using are two posts up this page! As for the subs bud, which one are you looking for a tutorial on? My brothers whale uses plastic casing for girlie hair straighteners(not his) or his crab uses pink foam, my turtle uses a detergent dispenser as a cockpit and card/plastic card for the rest and my squid and fish subs use glossy magazine cover.
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I was lucky enough to get a wee shot of the game on saturday; its really good fun! I love it, stunning models, simple elegant rules, fantastic time had- even if i did win! Cant wait to get another shot at blam!
Cheers
Andy
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Cracking stuff chaps! :-* :-*
Looking forward to playing in a few weeks (that's if I can get a look in!).
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It just keeps getting better and better!
What inspiration you guys generate.
I absolutely love this thread and keep looking back at it, even without any updates, it is just so good.
Every single one of those subs is pure genius! :o :-* :o :-* :o :-*
Cannot wait to see what you come up with next. ;D
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Mason- I'm afraid all the subs are done. We have enough for our game. The only thing left is some wee bits of scenery. Rocks, an underwater base, that sort of thing.
The base is pretty much finished, I'll try and get some pictures up in the next few days. These are my wee add- ins for it. Finished.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9d3aa6e4.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/1bd81301.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/7c9aa196.jpg~original)
Two and a half weeks to BLAM........
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Really Effective details and fun to have seen them from the beginning. I am actually sorry that BLAM is coming up because I will miss this great thread.
LB
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They are brilliant. ;D Nobody does detail like you do Andy :)
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They are brilliant. ;D Nobody does detail like you do Andy :)
Seconded 8) :-*
cheers
James
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I wish I were going.... :'(
Job search has HIGH priority atm, though - and I have my first interview tomorrow!
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I wish I were going.... :'(
Job search has HIGH priority atm, though - and I have my first interview tomorrow!
Ditto!
And good luck with the interview, Argonor!
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They are brilliant. ;D Nobody does detail like you do Andy :)
Ain't that the truth. Looks like real! :o :-*
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I just discovered your thread and it's totally amazing. You did an excellent job : creating, building, painting,...brilliant !!!!!
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Mason- I'm afraid all the subs are done. We have enough for our game. The only thing left is some wee bits of scenery. Rocks, an underwater base, that sort of thing.
Even though it might not get into the game, I couldn't resist having a go at a sub myself: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=34204.0
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/VSF/Aquanauts/Nemo01.jpg)
Fantastic work on all of this thread Andy & Colin. Brilliant conception, construction and painting. Can't wait to see it for real in the very near future. 8)
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Great stuff, Overlord!
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Anyone else had a go?
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I have and I might just take a piccy of it tonight :)
cheers
James
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They are brilliant. ;D Nobody does detail like you do Andy :)
The man's a detailing genius.
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I might have one on the slab also.
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I have and I might just take a piccy of it tonight :)
cheers
James
and
I might have one on the slab also.
Piccies?
Please!
Pretty please!!!
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Sealab 1820 looks fantastic. The verdigris effect is particularly stunning. The whole board is just gamer Pr0n.
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Right gents, here's my effort :)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/Martian%20Japanese/DSCF9184.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/Martian%20Japanese/DSCF9185.jpg)
Still a fair amount to do and I might even have time to put lights in it :D
There'll be a close combat weapon at the front, two torpedo tubes there as well and a cockpit on the top (where the figure is currently standing).
Colour wise I'm probably going to go with the boring grey two tone that I have for my neffs ::)
cheers
James
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Looking very promising, James.
Particularly like the construction work at the rear.
The fish on the side is a nice touch.
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Looking very nice. Not holding out hope for the design I did being made in time :(
Should have done it myself and not let a sculptor get carried away with it ;)
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Looking good Jim. :-* :-* :-*
Now get it finished and get some paint on it :D
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I'm telling ya...
Y O U R G O I N G T O N E E D A B I G G E R B O A R D!
:D
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Come on Jim, don't be koi.......Sorry couldn't resist it :D :D, I'll be leaving now.
LB
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Looking brill Jim!! :o
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Andy those bits and pieces are beautifully done,fecking brilliant :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Cheers
Guy
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Liking that design Jimbib. Are you going for a viewing window on the cockpit or is it all periscope action?
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Base finished! I'm afraid I had to rush some of it to get it finished and other stuff before BLAM.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/662f6423.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/deb5cc91.jpg~original)
....and this is it with various coloured lights...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a74c2fb2.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/4cbc48b4.jpg~original)
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(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/b0d90eed.jpg~original)
I had a bit of a major accident with the glass dome. I was using plastic glue to glue the strips inside when it ran! I tried wiping it off with soapy water but it must have spread it and now it looks all scuffed and scratched!! :'( :'( Does anybody have any ideas how to repair clear plastic once this has happened?
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/27148b2e.jpg~original)
Cheers guys!
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NUFF SAID!
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Regarding the dome;
I could be wrong, but could that not just be condensation?
EDIT: By that I meant, if you cant get it off, call it condensation.
(Should explain myself better. DOH!)
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Get some Future floor wax (US brand name, not sure of the British version) and apply to the clear plastic. Many finescale modelers recommend using it to get rid of blemishes and scratches in canopies and such.
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Simply sublime :-* :-* :-*
Regarding the glue 'smoking' the dome, it would depend on what it is made from. If it is similar to styrene then unfortunately there's not much you can do apart from use the wax as suggested by Damas. Is it's made from either acrylic or perspex then you can go over the same area with a brush that doesn't have a lot of the glue on it, you then brush over the affected area and it should disappear.
Try that technique on an unseen area and and it also depends on how much of a stain is there.
Hope that helps :)
cheers
James
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Wow, the lights look superb, I like the blue and green ones best. :)
Great shame about the dome. :'(
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O.O still speechless..
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looking good :-* :-* :-*
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This thread and its twin are proving to be insanely inspirational... :o
Us mere mortals cant even dream that good let alone bring it too reality!!!
shame about the glue attack. Future floor wax is Johnsons Klear over here. if all else fails would it be possible to cut out the offending bit and put in another glass panel? or maybe a porthole or escape hatch?
Dont sweat it though, the minor blemish in a superb build would be like a single pimple on Angelina Jolies booty.
You still would wouldnt you? lol
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I had a bit of a major accident with the glass dome. I was using plastic glue to glue the strips inside when it ran! I tried wiping it off with soapy water but it must have spread it and now it looks all scuffed and scratched!!
Personally, I wouldn't even worry about it.
Fantastic build! :-*
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Till I read that the dome had a mishap I thought the effect looked terrific to the point I was wondering how you managed the effect!
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Stupefyingly good. I thought the base was finished when I made my last post. The light effects are over the top good. The addition of well painted figures and the little details just ice the cake. You are amazing.
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Nothing much to update, on my part, only rocks. So I didn't think it was worth showing. Instead we need some help and opinion. We've got two backgrounds to choose from to place at one side of the board. Both are aquarium backgrounds. Ones just plain underwater with sand and stuff, and the other shows submerged roman ruins similar to my brothers temple......
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a935f044.jpg~original)
...I've also made a fake riveted steel wall to put it on. Keeping with the VSF theme.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/f151c30e.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/6e103b2f.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/7af4b386.jpg~original)
The silver colour looks better in real life!
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Temple. While I really like the water shot, it's an image of shallows while the game has the impression of depth.
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OK thats two against one so far.
So it looks like the temple one is the one to go for.
Shallow water bit makes sense.
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Sheesh, upping the game or what! Not only do you have a stunningly painted table and miniatures but now you have really topped it off!
Well done guys... when willthe rest of the life size underwater base be finished?
cheers
Andy
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Temple. While I really like the water shot, it's an image of shallows while the game has the impression of depth.
Hmm,he has a point about the shallows, but I quite like the water shot,mthe sunken temple background looks quite busy. :: ???
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I'd go for the water shot as the temple will make it look like it's in a fish tank (unless that's what you want of course :D ).
cheers
James
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Amazing! :o
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Temple backdrop for me.
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Cheers guys! Well that makes about 50/50 so far. I'll just leave it so it can be 'Blu-tacked' on.
Don't know if you noticed Colin, the gauge is supposed ton say 'Mac Bros'.
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Andy/Colin: I notice the stats for all your subs are the same. Is that deliberate/accidental/proven configuration? Just wondered, as I was looking to stat up my mini-sub and thought I might be missing something.
Paul
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They both work for me but if pushed I'd for for the water as your own terrain is doing the job of eye candy nicely.
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The base is truely inspirational :o :o :o
Sods law that I base my French Fusiliers Marin with mmartian grounf just before seeing this !!!
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Andy/Colin: I notice the stats for all your subs are the same. Is that deliberate/accidental/proven configuration? Just wondered, as I was looking to stat up my mini-sub and thought I might be missing something.
Paul
We thought for a simple, quick game it would be easier just to keep most of them the same. The two Barracuda will have different stats as they will work as a team. In our practice game we had people make their own subs. In some cases in worked but if one area is made better it is to the determent of another area. As some people found out. Feel free to make you own stats any way you like. :D
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We thought for a simple, quick game it would be easier just to keep most of them the same. The two Barracuda will have different stats as they will work as a team. In our practice game we had people make their own subs. In some cases in worked but if one area is made better it is to the determent of another area. As some people found out. Feel free to make you own stats any way you like. :D
I can verify that those basic stats are pretty much the best option, I went with them during testing and they really worked well- a good well rounded sub that ain't toohard to kill.
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Yikes! This wound up SOOO much more impressive than I would have ever guessed possible considering the start date and all!
You're amazing craftsmen!
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A brilliant idea, that be!
The only way you could have made this any more atmosheric would have been to play the game at the bottom of a swimming pool!
Superb stuff
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SHHHH
Dont give my mad brother ideas :o :o :o
;)
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Got the last of the game cards finished tonight...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/AquanautsBarracudaSub1.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/AquanautsBarracudaSub2.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/AquanautsCrabWalkerSheet.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/AquanautsWhaleSub.jpg~original)
Only a few days now to BLAM!!!!!!
SHHHH
Dont give my mad brother ideas :o :o :o
;)
Hhhhhhmmmmmmm!?!
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Here is my submission for the flotilla.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6229/6299854373_9ef5f341a6_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damasrojere/6299854373/)
With his little clank escort.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6041/6299853149_fe9c0511ca_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damasrojere/6299854373/)
With this done, I can now get back to my other nautical endeavour! :D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damasrojere/6299853149/)
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Thats really great Damas ;D
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Oh my word - is that a crude spar torpedo? :-*
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I thought it apt for the design. ;)
For those attending BLAM, the full extent of the model will be evident. ::)
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That's a wonderful contraption 8) :-*
cheers
James
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:o
Yet another smashing addition! :-*
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Looking great :-* :-* :-*
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I thought it apt for the design. ;)
For those attending BLAM, the full extent of the model will be evident. ::)
We don't have to bring our 'Hurt Locker' gear do we? It's not real working spar torpedo is it?
Seriously though , Damas great work!! Now back to building that cracking steamer!!! :`
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@ AndyM: Well, I do have an explosives license..... ;D
But I refer more to the fact that I like my models to be usable rather than just static display models. More details on Friday!
As to the steamer, I will be dusting the hull off soon. The sub build has re-vitalised me somewhat and the darkening evenings are a good excuse to re-visit her.
Of course I need to think about appropriate crew and such to ensure she is finished correctly, I'm thinking of a Baltic sea/RCW vibe rather than the classic Kong.
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Of course I need to think about appropriate crew and such to ensure she is finished correctly, I'm thinking of a Baltic sea/RCW vibe rather than the classic Kong.
Oooh that sounds splendid. Perhaps the Brigade Games RCW train crew could be pressed into service... ?
Ooops. Sorry. Back on topic... Looking forward so much to seeing all this mad submarine loveliness at the weekend :)
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Water backdrop will give a better backdrop for photos of the models, temple looks a bit too busy to me.
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The final painted version:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/369-241023213507-60451973.jpeg)
Aquanauts food chain:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/369-241023213507-60452221.jpeg)
An excellent game. 8) Excellent work by Colin and Andy I may just have to make some more subs to play again locally. :)
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Aquanauts food chain:
Words cannot express my admiration.
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Wonderful.
On a parallel , I had an impression there would be aquanauts on the board to, not just subs. Were there?
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excuse me has anyone seen nemo :D
Nice job
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Memo was found and eaten :D
I think the original game was just subs, then it grew arms and legs. The infantry seemed to fall by the wayside. Bullshot suggested a good idea for the infantry so they may be seen in future installments.
:D
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:) absolutely the bomb as they say . beautiful work all around.
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a suitable beastie? from Armourcast
Dunkleosteus hybrid kit (metal fins and lower jaw)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577216_242169825887976_119693401468953_410317_1210296018_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/577216_242169829221309_178836144_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577216_242169832554642_119693401468953_410319_1223746597_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577216_242169819221310_119693401468953_410316_540502436_n.jpg)
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That's severely cool!! 8) I think it would be really cool to try and upgrade our Aquanauts game. Maybe add troops and monsters and make it more of a pitched battle game with two waring sides. I really like the Deep Sea stuff recently as well.
Cheers EG!
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Like that!
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yes Andym! Make more aquatic acrobatics!
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Cheers EG!
no worries, my VSF days may be behind me, but this table/project has been great to watch...
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JL4c9TruqfE/T5SV_ogsKmI/AAAAAAAAA6s/M2cVQSq3Jmg/s1600/Great_white_shark_001.jpg)
:D
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Photobucket links repaired.
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Photobucket links repaired.
Nicely done, mate, as this is a truly classic thread.
:D
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Ha! This seems ages ago.
I recall your frustration at not using it ever again. lol
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I recall your frustration at not using it ever again. lol
You can copy and paste that into a lot of the threads I've been involved with! ;)
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Just found this thread, as I am contemplating some maritime/undersea gaming, and LAF is the place to do one’s research... :)
Wonderful creativity! Thanks for repairing the pics.
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This old thread has some photos from the day:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=34696.0
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This old thread has some photos from the day:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=34696.0
Cool, thanks.
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Still Impressive as hell, love to go back and review all the details and minis!