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Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 10, 2007, 12:15:52 AM
Okay look at me first post and already hawking my ware's..

Some people may know my Login Name from places like the UKCORD forum or Rackham's EN forum i've been a wargamer for quiet some time...Though recent events in the world of Rackham which has been my main focus of gaming for 4 1/2 years i've had a chance to sit back and look at things once started never completed...

So i've written my own set of Historic skirmish level rules based around the Golden age of the samurai. You army or Kashindan is the personal retinue of the Hero (that'll be you...)

Now i'll quiet admit that History is great but it can get in the way of a decent game so a lot of the real History has been glossed over to make things easier to work and run...and i have added a nice twist to the idea of the round which i know those who have played it have found both annoying and a real moment having to really think what your doing...

You can find out more about the game on the forum here;

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Kashindan/index.php?act=idx

The game is available through Wargaming Online;

http://www.wargamingonline.com/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=63

Feel free to take a look join the forum ask questions and anything else wargames love to do..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Driscoles on November 10, 2007, 06:20:45 AM
Good luck with the game Lupus !

Iam happy to have Samurais and Ninjas already in my Lead Mountain

 :)

Cheers
Björn
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: KeyanSark on November 10, 2007, 08:21:29 AM
Hi all:

I recently bought these rules and I think Kashindan is well worth a try. A nice little ruleset with enough detail for some interesting games. I am now planning to get some ashigaru to start a band.  :mrgreen:

Lupus, I have also done a full spanish translation of the game, including the glossary, for ease of reference with my group. I'd like to send it to you to provide with the material for an original PDF spanish version should like to. Just tell me where to send it.
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 10, 2007, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: "Driscoles"
Good luck with the game Lupus !

Iam happy to have Samurais and Ninjas already in my Lead Mountain

 :)

Cheers
Björn


well all you need is a set of rules to get them out and running Bjorn..

Quote from: "KeyanSark"
Hi all:

I recently bought these rules and I think Kashindan is well worth a try. A nice little ruleset with enough detail for some interesting games. I am now planning to get some ashigaru to start a band.  :mrgreen:

Lupus, I have also done a full spanish translation of the game, including the glossary, for ease of reference with my group. I'd like to send it to you to provide with the material for an original PDF spanish version should like to. Just tell me where to send it.


Thats great its always nice to hear from those who ahve bought it and are playing...May sound an odd thing to sday but feel free to join the Kashindan Forum and join in with the others who have the game...I'm hoping to expand the game with extra's but unlike a lot of people i'd rather add what the players want as i have literally millions of idea's :P

Spanish version would be great not sure how to deal with it as i'm hoping people will buy it though i guess i could offer it to anyone who buys it...

I hope to see more people pick up the game and give it a go...
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 10, 2007, 07:13:43 PM
OK, so how man figures would be needed to get a decent game up & running? Please bear in mind I play almost exclusively solo, so need to buy both sides :(

I'm not too bothered whether or not the  rules are solo-friendly, as there are plenty of solo gaming mechanisms about that can be bolted on to add more fun for the sad & lonely old gits like me.

I've always fancied wiggling my naginata about, so this could be my excuse to buy even more figures to lurk in deep, dark drawers  :lol:

Cheers,
Ian
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 10, 2007, 07:26:58 PM
I've run a game with 7 Samurai Hero's so ala the seven samurai film..

Normally most people have been using lists of about 12-16 models, which is about 500pts though you could go smaller or bigger...Its only if you go for say Peasants and want a swarm your going to need loads...
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 10, 2007, 08:42:06 PM
Ok, sounds good 24 -30 figures is certainly achievable.

Thanks for your help :)

Cheers,
Ian
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: KeyanSark on November 10, 2007, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: "Lupus"
Spanish version would be great not sure how to deal with it as i'm hoping people will buy it though i guess i could offer it to anyone who buys it...


Just think that if some customer from Spain or Latin America appears, he/she can buy the translation instead of the english PDF. Just add a link :)
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 10, 2007, 09:25:57 PM
Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"
Ok, sounds good 24 -30 figures is certainly achievable.

Thanks for your help :)

Cheers,
Ian


Your more than welcome..

@Keyansark..Sounds like a plan if the stuff makes sense i could even overlay the current English with the Spanish and keep the feel :P

Its always odd as a player i've done stuff myself for a game i love, but until someone does it to you you never realise just how much it means...

I hope to see some of your guys on our forum sharing there views of the game, believe me i'm all ear's  :)
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: KeyanSark on November 11, 2007, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: "Lupus"
@Keyansark..Sounds like a plan if the stuff makes sense i could even overlay the current English with the Spanish and keep the feel :P


That's my idea. Rich did the same with the .45A demo rules I sent him some time ago.

I'll send you the translation to the e-mail address you provide in the rules. You'll see that I've added a <Foto> (<pic>) tag wherever a picture must be added to keep the organization of the original PDF.

I you think it can be done I can also send you the translation of the cards and counters to provide a full translation.

There is a lot of interest for Samurai-era wargaming in many spanish wargaming forums, so I think you can have some market here...  :wink:

I plan to write a review for Kashindan in issue 25 of the Cargad e-zine. It will be ready on January-February, as the #24 is about to appear in a week or two and there's no time for another entry. I'll keep you in touch.
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 11, 2007, 12:14:41 PM
Well, I've just downloaded the rules, cards etc, so I'll have a good read-through when I have time. I'm still studying my brand-new Triumph & Tragedy rules, so it may take some time. I'll let you know what I think :)

Cheers,
Ian
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 11, 2007, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"
Well, I've just downloaded the rules, cards etc, so I'll have a good read-through when I have time. I'm still studying my brand-new Triumph & Tragedy rules, so it may take some time. I'll let you know what I think :)

Cheers,
Ian


Hey great...Feel free to ask any questions on the forum some folks already have..

Lets hope we see many more giving a new game a chance, you all know you want to play Samurai  :wink:
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Mainly28s on November 11, 2007, 10:29:33 PM
I'll add another positive note to the already good list here. I've (so far) only read through the rules, and will be doing some practical gaming this week, but initial impressions are definitely favourable.
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 12, 2007, 08:49:55 AM
Quote from: "Mainly28s"
I'll add another positive note to the already good list here. I've (so far) only read through the rules, and will be doing some practical gaming this week, but initial impressions are definitely favourable.


Hi Olaf,

Great news can't wait for the feedback a few of the guys played for hours over the weekend..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 12, 2007, 10:58:23 AM
Well, I got the rules & have decided to buy some Perry Samurai.

Now all I ned to do is learn how to paint them & make buildings  :(

Does anyone have any tutorials on quick but effective painting of 28s and any links to cardstock Japanese buildings?

I've tried Google,but my head is about to explode with trying to navigate all the Japanese-language websites  :lol:

Thanks in advance,
Ian
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 12, 2007, 11:26:39 AM
Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"
Well, I got the rules & have decided to buy some Perry Samurai.

Now all I ned to do is learn how to paint them & make buildings  :(

Does anyone have any tutorials on quick but effective painting of 28s and any links to cardstock Japanese buildings?

I've tried Google,but my head is about to explode with trying to navigate all the Japanese-language websites  :lol:

Thanks in advance,
Ian


Paper Buildings, i've seen many companies that do fantasy one's but as yet not seen anyone who does oriental theme'd one's..Would love to find some myself..

I'm going to make some buildings myself using bit from a tutorial i found here;

http://www.matakishi.com/vietnam19651973.htm

Thought there are a few companies out there that make some real nice resin building's...

As for painting, i just do what i can...You can see some of my stuff in the rules...
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: loki on November 12, 2007, 03:06:04 PM
If you do not want to invest a lot of money - this might be an option:

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/catalog/thumb_13.jpg)
(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72011%20Ninja/RB_72011_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72010%20Japanese%20Peasant%20Infantry/RB_72010_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72012%20Korean%20Infantry%2016-17%20cent/RB_72012_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72009%20Ikko-Ikki/RB_72009_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72008%20Ashigaru%20(command%20and%20support%20group)/RB_72008_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72007%20Ashigaru%20(Spearmen)/RB_72007_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72006%20Ashigaru%20(Archers%20and%20Arquebusiers)/RB_72006_600_zad.jpg)

(http://theredbox.com.ua/design/images/sets/Image/RB72005%20Warrior%20Monks%20(Sohei)/RB_72005_600_zad.jpg)

and there are three Samurai sets from Zvezda including a castle.
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 12, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
Nice find i know one of the guys on the forum is looking at the Zvezda mini's to use before he gets started properly..

The playsets look good though i hate the fact that on the forum where i've found them i can't see the content's..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 14, 2007, 09:19:57 PM
Just a small update i'm working with Keyansark to do a Version of Kashindan in Spanish.  Which i'm hoping to get online in the next few week's..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: KeyanSark on November 15, 2007, 07:49:45 AM
Jez, that Ukranian line of miniatures seems to be a very good starting point to have two bands with only a couple of boxes... How well would kashindan go with 1:72 miniatures?
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 15, 2007, 09:18:12 AM
Quote from: "KeyanSark"
Jez, that Ukranian line of miniatures seems to be a very good starting point to have two bands with only a couple of boxes... How well would kashindan go with 1:72 miniatures?


Yeah they look nice mini's..

Do be honest i think all you would need to do is maybe up the Ranges on things to compensate..

I'm already been asked a reverse question for like 20mm and 15mm armies..I think if you change the ranges by the percentage difference between 28mm and the appropriate figure Range you'd be fine..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Krazus on November 19, 2007, 01:47:26 AM
got the rules, and the free sheets.

Played it 5 or 6 times, with a different army list each time and I have to say it was a lot of fun. to see your enemy hero stuck in the open because its the end of the turn, only to find your hero in the same boat the next turn, eith an arm full of Yumi's bearing down on hm is a lot of fun.

Cant wait to get some mini's now (We have been using Confrontaion proxies)


go on folks, dip your toe in, get the rules and have a go. you wont be disapointed
 :wink:
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 19, 2007, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: "Krazus"
got the rules, and the free sheets.

Played it 5 or 6 times, with a different army list each time and I have to say it was a lot of fun. to see your enemy hero stuck in the open because its the end of the turn, only to find your hero in the same boat the next turn, eith an arm full of Yumi's bearing down on hm is a lot of fun.

Cant wait to get some mini's now (We have been using Confrontaion proxies)


go on folks, dip your toe in, get the rules and have a go. you wont be disapointed
 :wink:



For anyone not too keen on investing a large amount of time & money on a new project, here are some Samurai paper minis:

http://www.juniorgeneral.org/renaissance.htm#samurai

and an example of them:

(http://www.juniorgeneral.org/samurai/samuraic2.gif)

Pretty basic, but will do to give the rules a good run-through before deciding to dive in head-first.
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 19, 2007, 11:41:31 AM
Nice post Bro...

Don't suppose they do paper Buildings as well do they :P
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 19, 2007, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: "Lupus"
Nice post Bro...

Don't suppose they do paper Buildings as well do they :P


Sadly, not  :cry:

They do a great range of periods, but just figures. I'd really love to have a village & do a "7 Samurai" style scenario, but scratchbuilding isn't feasible at present.

If I had the artistic & design skills, I'd have a go at making my own paper models. Never mind.
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on November 19, 2007, 02:27:59 PM
I know what your saying some Great Samurai Resin out there though a little pricey for my liking...I'm currently trying something at the mo to see what it looks like...(Will be putting it on the Kashindan Forum)

As for 7 Samurai, already though about creating a scenario and have them moving through a village with nothing but Peasants attacking them...Would be good for a show game or just for fun..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on December 01, 2007, 09:15:34 PM
Okay for thos who have bought it i'm just recently uploaded a quick reference Guide to make playing a little quicker..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on December 11, 2007, 04:10:10 PM
For those who want to see how the game is played a Battle report will be in the Next issue of Harbinger..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Onimusha on December 12, 2007, 01:31:48 PM
I am starting to get excited about this, I will read the battle report in Harbinger and perhaps I download it after that.
When my site is ready I post pictures of my terrain and my table which is still in development ( but waiting my other project to finish first).
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on December 12, 2007, 03:45:55 PM
Quote from: "Onimusha"
I am starting to get excited about this, I will read the battle report in Harbinger and perhaps I download it after that.


I'm told the next issue should be out in a few days.


Quote from: "Onimusha"

When my site is ready I post pictures of my terrain and my table which is still in development ( but waiting my other project to finish first).


I'd like to see that i've done a building to date (Pictures in the workshop area), also have some hills that i recovered to fit in with the Scenary boards i want to build.

Plan is to have more buildings i'm looking at stuff to do a forge/smithy at the moment..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on December 17, 2007, 05:25:14 PM
Okay for those interested some nice piccies and a Battle report from the game are in the latest harbinger..

http://www.harbingermagazine.com/downloads.htm

Issue 37 folk's..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Onimusha on January 06, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
The review looks good and very interesting, maybe your game solves the main issue I have with samurai warfare; In the gaming group where I play I am the only one interested in samurai wargaming and thus can't find anybody for massed combat games but if they should only buy a handfull of miniatures that might be possible.

I saw the house in your gallery and really like the weathered look on the walls, can I ask you how you did this? :oops:
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on April 03, 2008, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: "Onimusha"
The review looks good and very interesting, maybe your game solves the main issue I have with samurai warfare; In the gaming group where I play I am the only one interested in samurai wargaming and thus can't find anybody for massed combat games but if they should only buy a handfull of miniatures that might be possible.

I saw the house in your gallery and really like the weathered look on the walls, can I ask you how you did this? :oops:


Sorry its taken so Long to eply to this Recently had a new addition to the family and the run up to it was manic and so has the 6 week's since..

Weathering was pretty easy..Big brush then draw down the area i wanted painting.  What i did do is before painting the walls i coated them with a thin layer of PVA glue so that they looked a bit bumpy...Then just a few layers of different paint stippled on hap hazardly to get the look..
Title: New Samurai Game Kashindan
Post by: Lupus on April 21, 2008, 03:04:45 PM
For those interested in a Review you can find a nice one here;

http://www.deepfriedhappymice.com/html/rd_kashindan.html