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Title: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: marianas_gamer on November 10, 2012, 01:08:10 PM
Well these are now on my list for action in the Back of Beyond!!
(http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s360/marianas_gamer/bu50.jpg)
LB
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 10, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
They look rather good. More, slightly different poses would be nice but they'll certainly do  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 10, 2012, 01:33:27 PM
Shame about the 'do or die' sword accross their backs, otherwise they could have done service in a few locations.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 10, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
Should be easily convertible. You could even put a bed roll in its place  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Captain Blood on November 10, 2012, 01:53:18 PM
Nice to see him back on 28mm. Wonder what brought that on? Let's hope it heralds a return to the groove for Mr C.  :)
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Calimero on November 10, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
Shame about the 'do or die' sword accross their backs, otherwise they could have done service in a few locations.

IIRC some of the Chinese DoD figures came with seperate swords... maybe that's the same here
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Ignatieff on November 10, 2012, 02:01:02 PM
ordered.  Smashing.  Will do for lots and lots of armies.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Stu on November 10, 2012, 02:23:19 PM
I wonder if there will be a command group?

Nice figures and a must for my Warlord army BTW.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: NurgleHH on November 10, 2012, 03:52:59 PM
When Copplestone releases something, there is always the question, if he will do more for this. The List of my open stuff of copplestone is as long as the nile....
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Von Stroheim on November 10, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
Brilliant - hope that these are the first of some  new editions - Tibetan regulars perhaps.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 10, 2012, 04:36:39 PM
Should be easily convertible. You could even put a bed roll in its place  ;D

cheers

James

You're a funny man  ::)

IIRC some of the Chinese DoD figures came with seperate swords... maybe that's the same here

They certainly look like they are seperate but the straps etc are on the figure, I suppose you could have rifles slung on their backs instead.

I'll be honest it's not an area I know a huge amount about but it seems an odd thing to put on them. While it does a good job of saying "these are BoB figures" it alienates them from anything else. I'm sure some russian troops did pick up big heavy chinese swords, but I would expect the majority to have held on to their sabres as a point of pride, particularly if they've managed to keep their uniforms in good condition.... I find it hard to believe there were whole units/whetever that decided to take up that sword.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Stavros on November 10, 2012, 05:22:00 PM
This is true...especially when you take into consideration that the Chinese swords in question were poor quality and badly counterweighted compared with say the Russian Shaska or other sabres.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Mark Plant on November 10, 2012, 11:19:50 PM
Surely you chop off the sword and replace it with a rifle or carbine.

Is that a machine-pistol on their right hips?
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Stavros on November 10, 2012, 11:52:55 PM
looks like a Broom handled Mauser.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on November 11, 2012, 01:11:01 AM
Where has Mark been designing recently?
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Phil Robinson on November 12, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
A nice and unusual addition to the range, if Mark is back in BoB mode perhaps we may see some officers for the White cavalry.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Arthur on November 12, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
I wouldn't hold my breath for white officers, though : Mark designs what he feels like doing and when he feels like doing it.

In case anyone's interested, the figures are obviously based on figure F2 in Osprey MAA 463 (Chinese Warlord Armies 1911-1930).
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Phil Robinson on November 12, 2012, 01:32:40 AM
I wouldn't hold my breath for white officers, though : Mark designs what he feels like doing and when he feels like doing it.

In case anyone's interested, the figures are obviously based on figure F2 in Osprey MAA 463 (Chinese Warlord Armies 1911-1930).

Arthur, really. I didn't have you down as a cynic :)
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: H.M.Stanley on November 12, 2012, 06:54:08 AM
...In case anyone's interested, the figures are obviously based on figure F2 in Osprey MAA 463 (Chinese Warlord Armies 1911-1930).

And a bodyguard unit for Chang Tsung-Chang the "Dog-meat General", who made extensive use of White Russian mercenaries apparantly, & which may explain the dao-dao fighting sword. I hope the model has sword/rifle etc options
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Hammers on November 12, 2012, 07:03:36 AM
A nice and unusual addition to the range, if Mark is back in BoB mode perhaps we may see some officers for the White cavalry.

And Gurkha command! And Gurkhas with kukris at ready!

(We ran into some Gurkha gentlemen promoting Remembrance Day Thursday before BLAM. I took it as a very good  sign)
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Ignatieff on November 12, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
And Gurkha command! And Gurkhas with kukris at ready!

(We ran into some Gurkha gentlemen promoting Remembrance Day Thursday before BLAM. I took it as a very good  sign)

Have you tried 'Woodbine'?
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Hammers on November 12, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
Have you tried 'Woodbine'?

I completely missed they are doing Gurkhas now. Great news!

I'd still like to see some from Copplestone.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Arthur on November 12, 2012, 04:00:33 PM
Arthur, really. I didn't have you down as a cynic :)

That's because I'm on my best behaviour here  ;)
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: giles the zog on November 13, 2012, 02:27:25 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath for white officers, though : Mark designs what he feels like doing and when he feels like doing it.

In case anyone's interested, the figures are obviously based on figure F2 in Osprey MAA 463 (Chinese Warlord Armies 1911-1930).

More info:
http://thelostcityofcarcosa.com/2012/11/11/bob-whte-russian-lancers/ (http://thelostcityofcarcosa.com/2012/11/11/bob-whte-russian-lancers/)

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...having worked out that I could cobble them together from other Copplestone pieces from different packs, and make some pieces myself/greenstuff, I asked if they’d do me a deal on the pieces. Instead he offered to make them.

So, if they sell well, he might be open to some more suggestions of cool BoB stuff, he says crossing all digits.
I have asked directly previously if he'd sculpt on commission and the answer was NO.
So, it really does come back to what funky stuff we can suggest that'll grab his attention and inspire him to sculpt stuff AFAIK.

I've done an order of these lancers, I suspect the da Bao is a separate item like the Dare to Die troops come with separate pieces. I certainly plan on converting a few to having mosin-nagant rifles slung on their backs. Or even have a third unit with BOTH.

Giles
PS: I really should come here more often.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: giles the zog on November 13, 2012, 03:40:04 PM
Shame about the 'do or die' sword accross their backs, otherwise they could have done service in a few locations.

I asked the question, and the swords are separate items. So ideal for conversion, and I certainly plan some with Mosin-Nagant rifles/ A N Other items instead to make different units.  :)

Giles.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Wirelizard on November 15, 2012, 01:21:12 AM
I asked the question, and the swords are separate items. So ideal for conversion, and I certainly plan some with Mosin-Nagant rifles/ A N Other items instead to make different units.  :)

Good to know! Will have to pencil some of these onto The List for eventual addition to my BoB/RCW forces. They could presumably even do double-duty as RCW Whites and BoB/Chinese Civil War mercenaries.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Ignatieff on November 15, 2012, 08:20:49 AM
Mines arrived yesterday. Super castings.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: coggon on November 15, 2012, 01:56:40 PM
Mines arrived yesterday. Super castings.

I am so jealous.  Ordered Saturday, hope to have them before Christmas
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: coggon on November 21, 2012, 03:54:44 PM
No longer jealous-mine were ordered 11/11 and arrived today.  I forgot that Mr. Copplestone seems to employ some sort of time warp for shipping.  As Ignatieff stated, nice sculpts-can't wait to get them painted.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: H.M.Stanley on November 21, 2012, 03:56:58 PM
No longer jealous-mine were ordered 11/11 and arrived today.  I forgot that Mr. Copplestone seems to employ some sort of time warp for shipping.  As Ignatieff stated, nice sculpts-can't wait to get them painted.

Can't wait to see them painted  :)
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: giles the zog on December 01, 2012, 03:35:56 PM
Can't wait to see them painted  :)

First photos - very bad - the light levels are rubbish, but it gives you an idea I hope.

http://thelostcityofcarcosa.com/2012/12/01/bobrcw-white-russian-lancers-in-chinese-service-2/

I'll try again tomorrow morning with better light, and the other 10 I have painted on darker Bay horses.
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: H.M.Stanley on December 01, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
First photos - very bad - the light levels are rubbish, but it gives you an idea I hope.

http://thelostcityofcarcosa.com/2012/12/01/bobrcw-white-russian-lancers-in-chinese-service-2/

I'll try again tomorrow morning with better light, and the other 10 I have painted on darker Bay horses.

Nice work chap
Title: Re: New Copplestone White Russian Lancers for Chinese Warlord Army‏
Post by: Stavros on December 01, 2012, 10:12:02 PM
They look really smart..nice work, hopefully might get some for xmas...sort of nudged my other half towards the Copplestone site and left some subtle hints lol