June, I believe, for the Afrika Korps.Yes dead easy, up the road for about 8:30
Hope you had a good trip back to Scotland :)
..... but I have no need to add to my pile and no game to play with them.
The 8th Army were among my absolute favvies in the Airffix 1/72 sets. A lot of dynamic poses and realistic poses which are firmly embedded in my mind as "This Is Wthe British Of The Desert Looked Like".
Onm a side note, these should work for early SE Asia, Singapore, China and the like right? I know the British wore khaki drill and shorts in that area but I am not sure about webbing.
June, I believe, for the Afrika Korps.
Hope you had a good trip back to Scotland :)
Let it be said that Captain Blood doesn't play around when it comes to building Perry plastic kits... you acquired these less than 48 hours ago, right? Amazing you've already got pics up!
:o :o :o
Bloody hell!
Ronnie Corbett in the desert!
They are a little small, but if they will be fighting each other then that shouldnt be a problem, as you say.
They may scale up well with earlier Foundry.
(Not sure they did WWII, though.....)
lol Thanks. I shall do my best not to disappoint!
Well, I wouldn't say 1/72, but they're definitely at the diminutive end of 28mm. Here's a Perry plastic Wars of the Roses figure for comparison.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_21_04_13_11_42_24.JPG)
You shouldn't let the size put you off though, because they're lovely figures.
Possibly they won't be compatible with other 'heroic' scale 28's, but heck, I only intend to fight my Perry 8th Army against Perry D.A.K. so I don;t see the problem (providing I can paint the little blighters :))
And I thought the Perry War of the Roses plastics were small and detailed... wow.
He also said you picked the tallest of the WOTR range, with the biggest head. lol
Hmm so 25s then?
Thinking aloud, I wonder if the Perry's sculpted the WW2 collections over at Foundry and if - being older figures - they are also similarly small? In which case, would the German paras be a good enough match for Crete and the Brit paras for Sicily?
Did the Perry brothers want to authentically depict the decrease of human body size due to industialization and overpopulation, or is this simply a "back to the roots" statement on the scale creep in the industry with the 32mm figures having arrived at 1/48 scale and the number of sculptors who work in that direction increasing?
what are Your thoughts?
italians will be in metal if I understand correctly
former user,But maybe they do italian heads for conversion with DAK-Plastic. I think it will work...
yes, they'll be in metal.
I spoke with the Perrys and the explained that the numbers don't justify the cost of a plastic version.
Quite obvious.
I saw them in the flesh and they are "Perry standard" indeed.
Marco
All the reliable science suggests that the average human in the developed world has gained in height over the past century, largely due to dietary change.for past 1950 I would agree ;)
Maybe it's more of the homage to Airfix thing? These could be the HO/OO of 28mm
Aha - another build-thread epic Richard? Can't wait!
I've put together five of these, plus the carrier, and they are a dream to assemble. I've spent a little time removing the back-fills around the water bottles etc. just to sharpen everything up a bit, but otherwise they are great straight from the box. Also basing on 1p coins rather than the supplied bases. Same diameter but a bit of useful weight which stops them flying away when they get a spray undercoat. :)
And before anyone says it's not historically accurate, please be aware that I don't care.
I spoke with the Perrys and the explained that the numbers don't justify the cost of a plastic version.
Quite obvious.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_22_04_13_11_28_04_2.JPG)
"How did you loose your hearing in the war, grandad?"
"WHAT?!"
lol
before anyone says it's not historically accurate, please be aware that I don't care.
Hi Captain
I think this is how one should fire a Bren :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuGvVJhhedE
All the best Aly
(I am taking Commando comic and War Picture Library as my inspiration - not the infantry soldier's manual 1941 :D)
But maybe they do italian heads for conversion with DAK-Plastic. I think it will work...
NurgleHH,
I hardly believe that.
The Italian equipment was totally different from the German one.
So a LOT of conversions should be necessary.
Let apart the weapons themselves.
Anyway, I think you just have to wait.
When Warlord will issue the Italian army list for Bolt Action, plenty of plastic/metal/whatever Italian miniatures will be available! ;)
Ciao
Marco
Still it looks cool. :)
I think you know it better then me. But I think warlord will not make plastic italians. I think there are not enough customers for it, even if italy is a big market.
For me it is ok, I think metal is better than plastic. Maybe in some years the costs for plastic-modelling get down, because these 3D-printing-thing will be opened for a wider market. Like Laserprinters. Our first black and white-printer was 10 times expensiver than the color modell I use now.
Future will bring the answer...
Ah, the joys of home printing. No doubt by then, the Canons and the Konicas of this world will have worked out that they should price the cartidges or the resin refill equivalents at approximately half the price or more of the printer itself and they will run out after you've printed two sprues. :D
Nicely done. Personally I'd been inclined to slice away the bayonet scabbard and frog from the LRDG chappie, bit redundant when you have a tommy gun.
I also added a little bit of poly cement to his beard and dragged a pin through it to make it a bit more bushy and slightly less neat. Going for the James Robertson Justice look.would You mind showing a close-up of that area please? that sounds very interesting
Hope so, Steve!You are right, I bought the Commandos. I think I have to make an other order these days. Sometimes plastic is a great source for our hobby
From the Warlord WWII British weapons sprue, Dirk.
A useful source of extras for these new Perry figures :)
Can't wait to see you paint them up!
Of course, I'm expecting a bright palette of purples, reds and blues. ;D
Captain -- your photos are nice and clear. What's your set-up?
Looking great... When's the paint going on ;)
The mark on the bayonets looks quite noticeable in the photos - does it stand out that much in 'real life'?
... hope you dont mind me suggesting but your figure #9: 'Just to lob one more Mills bomb into that line of Stukas on the runway...' would equally look good with a captured MP40 in his hand !!
You know you will have to get some tanks now,maybe an Crusader or Maltilda,if you can't be bothered putting a kit together I would be happy to do it for you ;)
Edit for further information; with your LRDG chaps you could pretty much get away with any of the head gear worn at the time,berets,cap comforters even NZ slouch hats( though you probably know that). Later,on parade anyway,RTR berets were standardised,early SAS of course had white berets(didn't last long though,caused a few fights I believe) then went to the sandy colour; again whilst on active service they usually wore whatever head gear they were comfortable in.
I should shut up,the LRDG is an subject I actually know a little bit about :o,so it's difficult not to write at boring length... ;D
I would like to do these as LRDG, does it have options for this otherwise will have to find some arab stye heads ....
Go with the Tamiya kits,they are superb and to my eyes scale perfectly :)
here it comes, the scale creep hysteria lol lol
well, human height is a much debated issue in anthropological sciences, not only in the wargamer community ;)
for those interested here an intro into the topic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#History_of_human_height
with a large reference list at the end, especially this one
http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/wwl/koepke%20baten%20two%20millennia.pdf
and just to make a visual statement
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Troops_of_the_Eight_nations_alliance_1900.jpg/800px-Troops_of_the_Eight_nations_alliance_1900.jpg)
so the real question is (because I personally disregard the option that the pros at Renedra made a mistake when downscaling)
Did the Perry brothers want to authentically depict the decrease of human body size due to industialization and overpopulation, or is this simply a "back to the roots" statement on the scale creep in the industry with the 32mm figures having arrived at 1/48 scale and the number of sculptors who work in that direction increasing?
what are Your thoughts?
Still no paint on 'Em ::)
That trip to the Commando Comics exhibition a couple of years ago was worth it ;)
Sorry-about-minus-sign-in-last-post-as-space-bar-key-is-broke!
Only Captain Blood... a thread with no painted figures and there's already seven pages of comments frothing with anticipation :)
the end result is more on the khaki spectrum than the usual portrayal of British uniforms in the Western Desert as sand-coloured. From what I've read, they were issued with everything in khaki drill, not sand coloured fabrics. I'm sure everything got bleached to oblivion by the sun, sweat and dust, but most of it started as khaki as far as I can tell.
Fiddly because I had to use a wash of browny-black after applying the first couple of coats and before applying highlight coats. The detail on things like buckles, pockets, buttons, gaiters and so on, are just too small too paint in using the layering method with any accuracy.
My Grandad was in the desert with the South Wales Borderers, lost his brother at El Alamein, among the many tales he told me was the fact that all their issued kit came in the standard khaki the lads in Europe got (and that he'd had while in the commandoes). Apparently he spent bloody ages scrubbing it to get the dye out of it. So painting everything as washed out khaki is spot on. ;)
Can anyone point me the direction to an overview of the different tan/khaki/sand colours in use on cloth during the north African campaign please?
I guess the only thing would be to look at modern photos of uniform and equipment items from the Western Desert held in military museums or private collections. But those would almost certainly have faded and discoloured with the passage of 70 years, never mind the effects of sun, sweat and dust in the desert to start with.I actually once visited a website of a modern manufacturer of US military clothing for WW2 reenactors who showed a lot of pictures of authentic faded uniforms in order to demonstrate that colour could vary even on one piece. I wondered if there was some museum about the desert war that showed a collection of authentic uniforms. I am definitely not after the "final truth", but more after an impression on the variability of the palette. For this purpose the faded cloth would suffice. Basically it is always a mixture of Black and Yellow and the appropiate amount of white for bleaching/washing/pastelling, but since Black will always have a reddish or greenish shade when lighted, it is these choices that are made to give a distinct look to the "desert/khaki uniform" of a certain army, and we should have at least five designs there, all with their history. Otherwise one can mix any kind of Khaki/Sand tones but no party will look specific.
I'd be interested how you would paint the Afrika Korps, if there is any intention for that ;)
Perhaps they will Dirk! :DOh Capitano, you get my blessing. lol
I must say, I'm looking forward to painting the Germans more than the British! That's not very patriotic of me, is it? But I've always had a thing for the Afrika Korps with their interesting coloured mish-mash of uniforms and snazzy light armoured vehicles... :)
I must say, I'm looking forward to painting the Germans more than the British! That's not very patriotic of me, is it? But I've always had a thing for the Afrika Korps with their interesting coloured mish-mash of uniforms
I always liked their caps... so cool.
Gotta agree with you there.I totally misread that at first and thought you had a tailored DAK uniform as a kid lol
When I was a kid the DAK uniform that I had for my Action Man was easily my favourite.
(Sacrilege, I know... ::)).
I totally misread that at first and thought you had a tailored DAK uniform as a kid lol
Really like your photos, can you tell me your photography setup.. ive tried but mine dont come out as well lit as yours!! :'(
I have another batch on the way, but painting time has disappeared for now, so it may take a while... :(This brings a lot of fans to very bad mood...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/577_01_06_13_4_47_41_2.jpg)
Stunning work, Captain!
Very natural and clever positioning.
Ingenious.
8)
When You start such a new project, do You prepare and design Your palette beforehand or do You simply go instinctively how it comes?
It seems like a sure fire way to get your hand shot away. Or is it just a action image which has established itself without being firmly rooted in real custom?
When I joined the RAF back in 1983 we were issued '44 pattern helmets, when you ran they bounced all over the place so they guy running, holding his helmet, is spot on in my book!I had the same problem about the same time. The chin strap was elastic but ancient and stretched, so the helmet used to bounce up end down when you ran. I remember them being heavy as well. The difference to the new plastic one was amazing, really took the weight off.
He really need a few Anadin, to take the resulting headache away ;)
I had the same problem about the same time. The chin strap was elastic but ancient and stretched, so the helmet used to bounce up end down when you ran. I remember them being heavy as well. The difference to the new plastic one was amazing, really took the weight off.
Truthfully, I found them just a bit too small and fiddly - the painting more than the building of the figures..... They're lovely figures, just a bit too titchy for me.I now glad I am not the only one who thought that.
I now glad I am not the only one who thought that.
Alex - yes, they are very small and fiddly to paint, and the detail is quite 'soft' and shallow.
On the plus side, they are wonderfully characterful figures. I think they are the best figures I have seen (apart perhaps from Tamiya) that really capture the feel of the soldiers of WW2 that you see in old photographs.
The buildings; I am guessing they are scratch built. I think texture and paintjob look very good. Care to enlighten us how you did them?
Just superb ..... tons of inspiration too as we're teetering on the edge of starting a 28mm Desert project, Perry figs with Tamiya and Rubicon vehicles probably.
They DO look like the men of yesteryears we know from monochrome photographs.
Like this, perhaps? :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/577_16_03_16_11_56_31.jpg)
I knew I had seen it before! :D
These are great. Who makes that mosque?
Fantastic work Richard!! ;) :-*
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/577_07_05_16_11_31_21.JPG)
Making me think of how the Fallschirmjagers were misspent in common infantry roles. "Uboote batallion Karl Dönitz, Kufra Libyan Sahara, 1941"
I must say, though, that the DAK kepi looks very strange on these miniatures. I can't quite put my finger on it but something is off.
Goddamit! I thought these looked pretty good. They required a bit of surgery to sit down right. If you look at some other pics of these models - where the cap has just been bonked on top of the head without any fitting - I agree they do look off. But I was quite pleased with these - ah Thorbjorn, once again, you have punctured my hubris lol
There's a little bit of mixing gone in there, but substantially, the three main colours used are Vallejo Russian Uniform Green, Desert Yellow, and Iraqi Sand.
Goddamit! I thought these looked pretty good. They required a bit of surgery to sit down right. If you look at some other pics of these models - where the cap has just been bonked on top of the head without any fitting - I agree they do look off. But I was quite pleased with these - ah Thorbjorn, once again, you have punctured my hubris lol
(By the way: What are those gubbins that the figures are stuck on?)
Oops. Sorry Paul, missed this Q before...
My wife went through a phase of drinking a particular type of wine (the name and type escapes me now) which came with corks with plastic caps built onto them. She went through about two dozen bottles of the stuff before discovering a new favourite tipple. So I have about two dozen of these plastic capped corks - very useful and stable for sticking unbased figures to whilst painting!
That was a lucky find.
Hmmm...not sure I would know where to start with that one, but if anyone does know: Gissa shout.
Here you go:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-White-Top-Bottle-Corks-Bottle-Stoppers-Home-Brew-Wine-Making-PACK-OF-30-/231484686155?hash=item35e58fff4b:g:vt4AAOSwu1VW6sQB (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-White-Top-Bottle-Corks-Bottle-Stoppers-Home-Brew-Wine-Making-PACK-OF-30-/231484686155?hash=item35e58fff4b:g:vt4AAOSwu1VW6sQB)
Captain Blood doing vehicles :o I can't wait to see the finished model, it's going to look brilliant. WW2 game for BLAM17 Richard?
Did you decide on what rules to use yet?
Looking nice and tidy.
One thing though - drill out your gun barrels Sir :-)
Edit: Oh yes, and my intention is to progress this entire project (figures, vehicles, terrain) to the point where I can stage a game at BLAM next year. 10 months, should be long enough, eh? ;) :D
A nice start on the massive armoured column that you have planned, sir.
8) :D ;)
Thanks Peder, that's very kind of you. Yes, I would be glad to give it a good home :)
I guess with such a (relatively) small vehicle, the difference in scale between 1/56 and 1/48 probably wouldn't be hugely noticeable?
Thanks again.
8)
I'm not really a Top Gear kind of person, by which I mean I don't generally get excited by automotive hardware, but I have to say I bloody love Tillies. When I was a kid my dad had a very rare Standard Tilly, and I have many fond memories of family holidays in the old thing. We traveled up Hell's Highway from Eindhoven to Arnhem in it in 1977 on a commemorative tour in convoy with loads of other vehicles, following the tyre tracks of XXX Corps. Luckily there weren't any SS Panzer Divisions in the area that time, and we made good progress. It was kind of bizarre, as it seemed the entire Dutch population turned out to wave flags and cheer us, as if they were actually being liberated all over again. Made quite an impression on me, though at the time I was much more interested in Napoleonics, and I remember buying a bunch of the 20mm Airfix figures in a model shop in Arnhem. :)
I also have a friend now who has an Austin Tilly very much like the one in H's picture, but sadly due to a recent seizure he's not allowed to drive it at the moment.
Okay, thanks Peder.
Hopefully you've still got my address. If not, let me know and I'll PM you :)
Meanwhile, the Humbrol seems to have finally dried and I have applied a base coat (Vallejo Iraqi Sand), then drybrushed that with a 50:50 mix of Iraqi Sand and White. Then touched in the stowage in various khaki colours... Need to paint in the tyres and tracks...
Next step is to settle on a camo scheme. Or just to go plain and simple, and head straight to the weathering... ::)
Very smart ! Looks like you've got a really good base to work on Richard ..........
It's an interesting camo scheme when it comes to the weathering, because you need to use a dark wash for the lining on the stone/light sand colour, but a light sandy coloured wash to reveal the detail on the black camo areas... The whole process is amazingly transformational... I have a nasty suspicion this could prove addictive! ;)
Just trying to keep it low key and not go too mad with it... :)
This is going great guns Richard ... looking forward to seeing the next pics.
Thanks Brent. Unfortunately I didn't manage to follow your advice too well - should have gone a bit lighter with the washes methinks and built it up. But this stuff (AK) is quite fierce...
But overall, not to bad for a first attempt :)
Is that really the first tank you painted? looks awesome :-* :-* :-*
... if a little more grimy than I had originally intended!
;)
So Rubicon is the way to go then? How do they compare to Warlord plastic kits?
What's next?
Sorry for the hijack, I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job on that armoured car.
Just so you know I am only kidding, I got a plastic stick together toy for Crimbo (three, actually, but the other two will be worked on later). I am making a start on it today. It aint a tank, and it aint WW2...in fact, it aint even from this galaxy, but from one far, far away....).
Thanks Dirk.
Truthfully, I think once it's painted, the gap will be a lot less noticeable, but we'll see :)
Thanks chaps - and especially Brent. Couldn't have done that without the inspiration and advice from your good self :)
Richard, what colours did you go with on this A/C?
What's next?
Bloody hell Richard, that was quick
Helen, basically it's Vallejo Desert Yellow and Vallejo Russian Uniform Green, lightened somewhat for the highlights with white in the case of the yellow/sand, and with a lighter, leafy green n the case of the Russian green. The main shading etc is done using AK Interactive 'Wash for DAK vehicles'.
So I'm cracking on with my newfound passion for making/painting my own 1/56 scale AFVs (rather than pestering you ;)) while the Force is still with me...
(I don't think it'll last too long, to be honest - just wanted to give it a try... I might have a couple or three more vehicles in me, then I daresay I'll drift back to the Wars of The Roses... :D )
Can't wait to see your work on the Tiger!
Hey Captain Blood, how's the quality of the Blitzkrieg model? I saw your AC, I got one from Warlord and it's abysmal and I'm looking for a replacement of higher quality...
Never mind. Found your initial post about that AC.
That Tiger looks grrrreat ! :-*
I was wondering how long before someone said it.Happy to please Paul lol
;) ;D
So now you've got the painting of vehicles sorted what's next .... an aircraft maybe?
Nice colour choice - is a game (with a smorgasbord of your figures shown off in an AAR) on the cards?
Yes, easily snappable I think Steve. The machine-gun even more so than the cannon - it's approx. 0.8mm.
Again, you might have thought cast metal for these fine / tiny components would have been better, but I guess they're resin all the way to keep everything in house.
Yes, easily snappable I think Steve. The machine-gun even more so than the cannon - it's approx. 0.8mm.
Again, you might have thought cast metal for these fine / tiny components would have been better, but I guess they're resin all the way to keep everything in house.
.....
The bottom half, alas - in particular the area involving the mould line around the tracks / wheels and lower part of the hull, front and back - is a freaking disaster. All manner of resin accretions and mucky lumps of efflorescence that require determined carving away with a scalpel to reshape down to the correct profile, as best one can. Not a job for the inexperienced or or faint-hearted.
I guess they'd say that because these are designed for robust handling on the wargames table, rather than pinpoint accurate scale models, it's more important that they look the business from above, rather than worrying about a bit of miscasting and resin clag around the lower portions of the vehicle (which can be covered up with mud, etc). I can see this point of view, but it's a little bit disappointing .....
I also have yet more boxes of Blitzkreig vehicles, and having read the thoughts of Capt Blood I'm wondering whether I was possibly a bit hasty in purchasing so many, over 20 of various types I think, and perhaps I should have just tried one or two first? --- I did ponder waiting for Rubicon to move onto the vehicles I wanted, and I didn't like the look of the Warlord stuff so I bypassed that. Perhaps I should have more patience.
Welcome to the world of 28mm resins. Working on stuff with issues like this is par for the course and not just a Blitzkrieg issue. Some manufacturers are better, and within ranges quality can go from great spiralling down to far far worse than this. It's why I openly favour plastics where something is available in both. It's also why I spend so long on my builds and can't churn them out in 2 hours like some can, without a Dremel and Bench Grinder working with any quantity of resins becomes problematic.
And now I've cleaned them up and primed them, the Blitzkrieg vehicles are looking pretty darn good...
My grumbling is more to do with the fact that the casting around the mould line leaves a great deal to be desired -
and added the Perry Steyr 1500 personnel carrier to the collection.me too, I'm interested to see how yours turns out.
Conversely, this is a really LOVELY resin model, very finely detailed and cast, and with almost no flash or nasty unwonted resin lumpage at all...
I also bought a pack of 28mm scale oil drums from a seller on eBay
Marco - it's http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322376601996?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Richard do you happen to have a email of the seller on ebay?
I dont have access to ebay but those oil drums would come handy.
What I've wondered for some time is, do the moulds for resin vehicles wear out over time just like the ones for metal figures? I'm guessing the answer is yes, in which case is it better to jump in and buy resin as soon as it is released as the quality of the vehicle may deteriorate as the mould is used a lot, and could this be the cause of some of the casting lines mentioned previously? I notice on some of the more popular ranges from Perrys that you get a lot more flash on some metal figures than others, something I put down to their popularity.
When can I visit to play?! lol
Great stuff! :-*
Is that you off of doing the stowage these days?
Thanks chaps :)
Started work on the Steyr...
And my consignment from Brent in NZ should be winging its way to the UK - all of a sudden I will have 18 AFVs and vehicles. Really far too many for a 28mm skirmish on a 6'x4' table... :D
(Luckily, I don't worry too much about realism, as long as it looks great and the game is good, flavoursome fun... )
What do you use as reference material for colours?
Do you use Vallejo or another paint company?
Next up will be the Austin Tilly...
Great work on those markers me Capt! So what colors did you use for them, as the groundwork looks quite convincing.
How do you do the chipped paint effect on your vehicles? I'm always afraid of overdoing it, so I'm curious about your technique :)
Lovely stuff, sir.This. 8) Absolutely georgeous stuff Richard (and Brent). :-* :-* :-*
Wonderful brushwork on some lovely little characters.
I am with you when it comes to adding figures to vehicles.
Sod whether it is 'realistic' or not, they just add so much 'life' to a vehicle.
The Western Desert was my wargames epithany when I found "An introduction to wargaming" by John Sandars in the local library as a 10 year old boy.
Just out of curiosity, do you know if some Tigers make it back to the continent after the North Africa campaign?
The Austin Tilly is very nearly finished... 8)
I changed my mind. Hand it back.
I changed my mind. Hand it back.
I'm NOT doing Italians lol:-[ :'(
Reference the Tiger is the one in Bovington tank museum not one that was captured in tusia?
I'm NOT doing Italians lol
Yes you are.
You just don't know it yet 8)
As you can also see, the British are somewhat outgunned as things stand, especially if we include that Tiger tank.
I'm therefore going to add a Blitzkrieg Matilda and Humber A/C to the British forces - and then THAT IS IT. (No, really).
Well, for the time being anyway...
Absolutely fantastic selection of vehicles. Are you going to add crew to the Bren carrier, scout car etc?
Hope the Tilly doesn't have to go against the Tiger :o
Richard,
when you'll start the Italians?? ;)
Marco
Thanks Grant :)
A Deacon? (Not that I am aware of a kit, maybe ask Rich H to get the plastic card out... ::) )
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/AEC_Deacon.jpg)
That's a real sow, isn't it? I wonder how it fought.
You don't see craftsmanship like that anymore, at least not in the so-called developed world.
It is all software these days, just look at the F35...
^___^
And all this, because I cannot abide to see a beautiful wargames table littered with shitty little bits of brightly coloured plastic or nasssty MDF tokens.
Call me an elitist if you like...
Richard, it seems that you become addicted to Token-Making. Will we see 10 rounds of Tokens in the lead painters league??? :)
I love those rules!
And those markers look the business!
lol
That would be quite an easy road to take, Dirk, but I don't think I would win many matches! ;)
That's a real sow, isn't it? I wonder how it fought.
Do you know a review of Iron Cross that you might recommend?
No. The whole Tiffin thing (and all its imitators) is the work of the devil lol
The Iron Cross approach, where indeed, some units may never activate - but because you have had to spend your limited command resources elsewhere, rather than the entirely random and capricious turn of a card - feels like a much more sophisticated way of reflecting the same sort of battlefield paralysis.
Rules support? Yeah, I won't play anything that isn't supported by at least two dedicated forums, a blog and has a downloadable app, a facebook presence, a Twitter account and Tinder. Handy if it has what's up? Or is that what-the-fuck? Spotify optional.
You could simply say that this year you were making just a token effort.
Yeah, I think you'd like these, Steve. Lots of choices, not many rules.
Did you stop taking your medication again Carlos? ;)
I don't usually use commercially published rules, so I'm about as far from a 'support' addict as you can get, so feel free to sod right off with your righteous anger :)
I couldn't agree more - there's a depressing degree of needy 'rules ecosystem dependency' amongst many wargamers these days. I blame Games Workshop (naturally) - it's the culture they created. Endless supplements and fluff all designed to part gullible young people from their money...
As far as Iron Cross goes though, expansions that were promised seem not to have materialised; the rules landed with quite a big splash - and then appear to have sunk more or less without trace; there's very little in the way of supporting information and examples on the rules website; and even the publisher seems to have lost interest and stopped answering rules questions on their own forum dedicated to the rules...
Since this is probably the first set of commercially published wargames rules I've bought in 20 years (aside from Saga), and I really like the look of them, it's just disappointing that they seem to be dead in the water.
But we shall see.
I'd better play them first :D
Yeah, I think you'd like these, Steve. Lots of choices, not many rules.The support on the website is ok, some new stuff and Great Escape has an own Forum. IC didn't run as good as Dead Mans Hand and the other stuff. But with the long lost third Perry Twin Richard in the backhand it will restart again, I think :D
As far as Iron Cross goes though, expansions that were promised seem not to have materialised; the rules landed with quite a big splash - and then appear to have sunk more or less without trace; there's very little in the way of supporting information and examples on the rules website; and even the publisher seems to have lost interest and stopped answering rules questions on their own forum dedicated to the rules...
..... the long lost third Perry Twin Richard.....
As it happens I didn't have you down as the needy 21st wargamer. It does make me giggle though when folk complain that X ruleset isn't 'supported'. Makes you wonder how some folk manage to work a kettle in the morning.
Will be available from Perry Miniatures very soon. Alongside a number of other Allied vehicles and guns. There are photos on the Perry's Facebook site.
where did you get the decals from?
Wonderful, again, Captain Blood. I think you will do the Italians in the LPL, right?
I think the Perrys won't do Italians, French or Americans in Plastic, so I will get me a very big book for October. Something like war&speaker from Tolstoi or the stand from Stephen King.
lol
Sorry, just don't find the Italians appealing :)
(Now if the Perrys produced a set of plastic WW2 Italians, that might be different... )
You are down to play Rommel, Dirk ;)Jawohl, mein Kapitän....
There are no ranges – everything is assumed to be in range, although under 12” does count as close range and gets a +1 in shooting.
(Note, an infantry section is these rules requires only four figures, being strictly representative. There’s no figure removal, and no difference between LMGs, SMGs and rifles. Basically an infantry squad is a combat element. It fails and is destroyed only when its morale collapses. For the sake of appearances though, I’ve decided to make my infantry sections a more likely eight figures strong… )
That was three and a bit turns to get to a pretty clear result, took about 90 minutes to play - and that was with a lot of reference to the (very short) rules. On the whole, pretty promising I’d say.
Nice looking game! 8) I can't wait to see what you come upnwith board-wise!
What size was the table?
Sightly under 6' x 4', John. Played lengthways.Thanks Richard.
Great Escape Games claim the rules are really designed for large tables, like 12' x 6', with lots of tanks and infantry and support squads.
But on a first outing, they seem to me to work well enough in a smaller space. I guess it's more fire and less manoeuvre, but none the worse for that :)
Gald to see you have got your first game in. Must meet up and hand over the black smoke!
Sounds like a plan, I'll see if I can persuade James to come out as well ;)
They are clearly designed to give a cinematic, flavoursome, large scale skirmish game amongst friends, where an unfolding narrative, tricky command decisions, and prioritisation of where to put your resources, when to attack and when to hold back, take precedence over a more accurate, rounded reflection of warfare in the period.
In other words, I think they're a great set of rules if you want an enjoyable, fluid, flavoursome game.
If you want lots of detailed rules and absolute historical accuracy, they're not the answer.
Thanks Andy - actually, it's going to look an awful lot like the desert board you made a little while ago :D
They are clearly designed to give a cinematic, flavoursome, large scale skirmish game amongst friends, where an unfolding narrative, tricky command decisions, and prioritisation of where to put your resources, when to attack and when to hold back, take precedence over a more accurate, rounded reflection of warfare in the period.
Thanks Jeff. Hopefully, once the terrain boards are done, you'll get to play it later in the year :)
That's the plan Steve :)
That's the plan Steve :)Mein Kapitän, Gefreiter Stefan, nicht Steve... ;) lol
We too are playing with 8 man infantry units for visual effect. 4 just doesn't look right to me.
The one thing that did stand out on a read through were machine gun units. Unless I missed something they have the same firepower as an infantry squad, yet are supposed to represent a section of two sustained-fire guns. Two dice from a single tank shooting at infantry is fair enough, but a two-gun tripod MG section would be a lot of potential hurt.
Great Escape Games seem to have pretty much given up on this rule set. None of the promised updates... Rules questions on the forum languish unanswered.... it's a shame because it seems to have a lot going for it. And most people that have played it seem to like it... And yet... :?
GEG is a very small operation and they concentrate on one thing at a time. Right now I think their focus is 'The Curse of Dead Man's Hand' (funny enough, I just went to see Stu today and he's got some new figs for me to paint soon), so maybe they'll get round to more Iron Cross later. Might be worth having a word if you're at Salute.
Thanks. Sounds like a good plan. I'll do that :)
We too are playing with 8 man infantry units for visual effect. 4 just doesn't look right to me.
Thanks for the most useful palm painting tutorial- I've been holding off on mine as I was quite stuck on what to do
What he said. I also have a bunch of chinese palmtrees that I did not know how to handle.
Thank goodness Richard went to Canaries! :D
Thank goodness Richard went to Canaries! :D
You could have saved a fair bit of money by just getting a bag of palm trees from China. Quality difference isn't much, but the price is.
Got a linky?
Ebay. Search 'palm tree' in toys and hobbies. Dozens of Chinese vendors. Come in various sizes and types. Cheap as chips.
As Carlos says. Worth doing a test order though (about £4 including delivery for 10) as they are not always as pictured. When I found a batch I liked, I ordered more multiples of the same, spread over a few weeks to avoid them being despatched in one package and thereby hitting the tax threshold.
Cunning, that.
lol
Btw I use 9amfree and though they say a month for the 'free' delivery they normally arrive within a week.
lol
Btw I use 9amfree and though they say a month for the 'free' delivery they normally arrive within a week.
Thanks. Most of the chinese palm purveyors which I found sell palms in runty scales like N and HO. 70mm palms doesn't quite meet my requirements.
(Really, the blue is far too bright, but then, really - who gives a flying fanny? It looks good, that's the main thing ;))
Fantastic shading on those. Is that all created through layering? Do you use washes with things like the flesh tones and off-whites? You'll have to have a "how to" session one BLAM!
Das ist sehr gut, Kapitän Blut.Ha, the little striver applies for the German side in October, I think. Your german is good, little Paul. ;)
:-* :-*
Nicely done Captain! I hated painting those Perry plastics! I'm sooo jealous you pull it off with ease! :oI know what you mean. I always try to start the rest of my ww2 perry plastics, but find other stuff to paint. They are very tiny. More a job for 20mm painters...
Lovely work. Do you have a forces arm list? Just looking for inspiration for when I d mine.
Thanks. Not sure what a forces arm list is! Sorry :)
Let me know and I'll happily provide the info.
Ha, the little striver applies for the German side in October, I think. Your german is good, little Paul. ;)
I meant an army list, brain and typing not in the same gear
Thank you, Dirky, but I shall be playing the Italians.I hope you find a good book to fight the boring time...
:D
In fact, probably best to forget history altogether :D
Looks great :-*. I assume you mean 1941 not 1841? What base colour did you use?
They look great,hope the jar holds up when he fires the Boy's rifle :)
hope the jar holds up when he fires the Boy's rifle :)
Cracking sir! That must be some forces you have now for your desert campaign?
Very appealing isn't it?
Strange that camo can look so visually pleasing given the job it's there to do... ::)
Is your case of 'chipping mania' becoming less 'acute'? lol
I think one of the reasons why almost everyone likes the Afrika Korps so much (apart from Airfix, of course) is that they looked rather un-German in their slightly casual, higgledy-piggledy appearance.
Bang on compadre ;)
Thanks all for the positive comments throughout this thread. I will come back to it when I start building the terrain boards, but it's pretty much done for the time being.
Now I get to play with the toys 8)
Now, I reckon you should have at go at a George and Mildred version.How can you mix them with the Crooked Dice scooters?
:D
Aint that cute!
:D ;)
Gotta love a bike and sidecar combo, a brilliant addition to the project.
Beautifully coloured in, as usual
:-* :-*
Now, I reckon you should have at go at a George and Mildred version.
:D
Captain, the brushwork is gorgeous!
Would Warlord heads fit on these, do you think? I want to make a unit of Bersaglieri on motorbikes, so I am wondering if this may be an option...
Having actually seen these in person today, I fell that I can honestly say that this is one of the best collections of any era, never mind WW2, that I have ever seen.
The sheer fiddlyness of these tiny fellas with such wonderful paintjobs really has to be seen to be believed.
And I had trouble seeing them, they are so tiny!
A truly wonderful project, Richard, that you should be rightly proud of.
:-* :-*
When & where is BLAM?
... the Matilda simply reversed over him and his ADC :'(
I have to contest the battle report, though, as you have not used the word 'penetration' anywhere near enough for it to be at all accurate.
Quite impressive I'd say. I like the most of Iron Cross... I did find shooting with tanks to be quite a long winded ineffective pillow fight though.
... as he attempts to push a stick grenade up its exhaust…
Thank you all :)
Haha! Yes, there lots of shouts of penetration!
I notice you favour the 'classic' blue Caunter. Was this a statement of support or just because it looks nicer?
Testing for penetration is damn exciting.
Accruing shock points is bloody frustrating.
And seeing a 6 rolled on a company commanders morale check* is either a blessed relief or a portent of doom, depending if you are the roller or the rollee.
*for those that don't know, clears accumulated shock points from a unit
Well, it looks nice - I couldn't give a monkeys about disputes between assorted analists about what was or wasn't the one true colour scheme... (Except to say I'm fairly certain that there would have been many variations, whatever War Office regulations may have said, and all would have faded to shit after a few months in the desert anyway... :))
And hearing someone declare that they are going to 'penetrate with my two-pounder' is pretty alarming!
:o :o
Says the guy who invented in game fingering and fisting...
(Now, you really need to get all this going in the true WWII scale... 20mm) ;)
Bleedin' lovely game, full of eye candy.
:-* :-*
I have to contest the battle report, though, as you have not used the word 'penetration' anywhere near enough for it to be at all accurate.
;D ;D
Thanks Keith.Thanks Richard,will look forward to it,won't be long now :)
Hopefully, you'll get a chance to play this in October ;)
I've never made the jump to textured board sections, after this thread I'm sure I start one for Africa at least.
Whenever I see dense foam based scenery boards, I wonder if an ice cream scoop would work to help make indents into it.....
Just saying.
Well, I can conclusively report - that doesn't work... ;)
You mentioned you wanted to add some pots around the ruined house. A nifty little trick I learnt from someone how to make a broken pot, is to take a small electric bulb, like a grain-of-wheat or the kind you use in Christmas tree decorations, and gently crack it in. With just a trial or two you should be able to get something you can use like a broken pot, which could further add a sense of wrack and ruin to your building.
Very interesting to see how you are making these boards - I may try something similar one day.
You should write a book ;)
And I always love to watch terrain boards being build! Thanks for posting so many different pictures, this really helps should oneself dare to take on this endeavor.
Do you plan to 'visit' other theaters of the second world war?
What's the idea with the blue debris?I think it is the aquarium gravel, it is all sprayed with Halfords paint.
Fair point Andy. I shall do that. I was planning to blame the rustic arab plasterers... ;)Maybe you can use these texture from citadel. I tried it and it is usable. With the App from citadel you can see the effect of them.
Great looking boards there Captain B. Did you do anything to prep the palm trees before painting?
Excellent. Will be a cracking game at BLAM. :-*Without italians? ;) I think I have to play the germans, right?
What are all these strange things doing in that lovely Dornish desert?
Have you thought of adding tufts around the base of the removable palm trees?
:D
Excellent Dirk. I will be good to have some Germans to play the Germans ;)
...I neglected to take any pictures!
Did anyone take any photos of the other games? :-[ :-[
Did anyone take any photos of the other games? :-[ :-[
where did you get the styrofoam from?
The thing with the figures and vehicles in this game wasn't just that they looked great on the table, when you held them close up (right up to your face) they still looked amazing! I don't know how he does it. Magic I expect lolThe pictures show only 50% of the real quality of Richards work.
Haha! You are really too kind Dirk (and no, I’m still not getting Italians ;))I took the idea of bloodiest painted italians to grave. Sad, but true. Hope for the french and maybe the Stuka.
A fine, methodical and effectual way to make a mountain for your board!
A great step-by-step tutorial! Thank you for sharing!
You can see that - if it were only possible to transport a full size sheet around, once mounted on a rigid backing board - just one of these would make a very interesting basis for a complete mountainous table top!
Question on the Glalc - why the talcum powder?
This rocks.
Massive! :-*
Incredibly beautiful pictures once again! The terrain, vehicles and miniatures fit so well together it almost looks like a movie! This is really inspiring!
On another note (and I don't want to start a scale discussion here): in some pictures it looks like opposing vehicles only stand a few inches apart from each other...this is the only downside I see to gaming in 28mm and especially on relatively 'empty' desert boards.
How is range handled by the rules you use? What do you think about this, does it bother you from a visual point of view to have vehicles facing each other that close?
The rules I have been using for these games are 'Iron Cross' by Great Escape Games. They are not really designed to provide an accurate representation of warfare in WW2. As mentioned, they are rather abstract in nature, with an emphasis on where you place your bets with your limited amount of command tokens, and managing your forces morale to maintain effectiveness. The rules themselves are very stripped back - no aircraft, off-field artillery, weather conditions, intelligence or any of that more detailed jazz. They're meant to provide a fast and furious cinematic game of men and tanks in fairly close quarters fighting.
So - although there are some things n the rules that don't make sense to me, and a few things that are not clear - overall they suit my approach to wargaming very well :)
Peder - the 'glalc' just provides a thick PVA paste that dries hard and plasticised, and lets you add depth and texture or conceal joins. It's essentially the same as 'gloop' except using talc as an aggregate provides a smooth paste rather than the rough texture paste you get with sand and / or grit...
Because it's essentially thickened PVA, yes you can use it as a primer and sealer on pretty much any surface. But it's real purpose it to provide texture.
Did you already show the German Halftracks here in the Forum? i don't remember seeing them! (Maybe I'll jsut browse the whole thread as there is so much to see anyways)
I really like that you have a lot of support vehicles and not too many tanks.
That game looks like gorgeous Richard. Somehow you always seem to know what you're doing.
I bet the game had a lot of cliffhangers!
Excellent mountains and game Richard. :-* :-* :-* :-*
The use of the theatre mouldings was inspired. 8)
@Peder:
That’s about it :D
Elk101 called it Glalc because that’s what it is: glue and talc. I don’t actually use PVA (I never use PVA but Evo-Stik Extreme Wood Glue) though it’s like PVA and I often call it PVA. To most people who have asked me ‘why use Glalc?’ I simply say ‘just try it’ (it’s a cheap experiment lol). For me, it adds an interesting irregularity to surfaces that might otherwise be flat (such as adobe walls from foam board). It also provides a hard skin that can help toughen up what might be fragile terrain pieces..
Btw I sometimes use talc with superglue as a filler/binder though that’s a far less pleasant experience (a glalc but not Glalc as named by Elk!)
Just to clarify as my terminology at times does seem to have caused confusion. Personally, I don’t use PVA *and* wood glue, I use a wood glue that’s like PVA (but dries watertight). I have complicated things by sometimes calling it PVA and sometimes calling it wood glue. This started because when I called it wood glue, there was a presumption that I meant the yellowing carpentery glue. I am therefore the cause of any resultant misunderstanding. Apologies. :D
I actually use Evo-Stik Exterior Grade Wood Glue, which is white but cures clear and comes in a blue bottle. It looks like PVA, but is watertight.
Glad we got that sorted out lol
How many more are you thinking of doing? It’s kinda leaving you with an odd number of boards at the mo.
One thing, you say that the ABS rock face sheets are approx £20-does that include delivery? I can't work their website and to send an 8'x4' sheet seems remarkable value!
How improbable!
Commemorating a battle involving unwelcome foreign armies, who didn't even take their rubbish with them, does not provide employment and an economy boost for today's Egyptians.
Lovely collection Richard! :)
Marvelous. Out of interest what base colour are you using for 'Portland Stone'.
Glad the Optivisor is working out too.
Thanks lads.
Thanks Keith. It's Vallejo Iraqi Sand :)
Heh, of course it is :-)
Along with Russian Uniform and Black Brown, this colour probabaly accounts for 30% of all paint I've applied to figures in the last decade.
Glad to see you back at it Richard 8)
Thanks UVS.Would that be Vallejo German Camouflage Black Brown?
Ah, now that's interesting. I'm a big fan of Russian Uniform, but I've never come across Black Brown. I shall look out for it... :)
Fantastic work. Does the model come with that radiator grille? That looks superbly crisp for a plastic wargame kit.
Is the load in the back part of the model or your custom work? Because it looks perfect!
At this level of magnification, you can see the only tell-tale sign of a plastic kit... the two little circles on the inside of each of the upper side panels, which I think are something to do with the moulding process - not a historical detail! Probably I should have filled these in or filed them away or something, but - meh... ;)
Is the wood grain on that crate painted?
At this level of magnification, you can see the only tell-tale sign of a plastic kit... the two little circles on the inside of each of the upper side panels, which I think are something to do with the moulding process - not a historical detail! Probably I should have filled these in or filed them away or something, but - meh... ;)
The hot glue gun on the other hand took precisely 1 minute. It delivers a reliable stream of what is effectively piping hot molten plastic which sets rock hard in approximately 20 seconds. It sticks to foam but doesn't melt it. It sticks to plastic. (I stuck a bit of plastic to a bit of foam as a test and I literally couldn't pull them apart... Well, I did after a while, but it ripped a section of the foam substrata away with it). The other thing is that you can effectively use it as an instant gap filler. Bloody amazing.
The Renedra mud brick house on the other hand, is sorely disappointing. It's a nice looking building superficially - especially with the addition of the dome from the add-on extras kit. But it doesn't fit together well at all. I had to spend literally hours filling and filing all the joints with green stuff, PVA-and-talc gunk, and various other fillers to get rid of the myriad of all-too-obvious joins all over the bloody thing. Really a lot of extra work. Not good at all :(
Huh. I thought I knew my glue gun. It was some time since I used it on pink foam but as I recall it *did* melt it. Are you using a special formula glue stick? I know there are different kinds...
Vichy vehicles up next...
Thanks :)
Vichy vehicles up next...
Thanks :)
Vichy vehicles up next...
I see the mince pies are back up to full operational mode then.
:)
You really should build a water truck for the Vichy. Or perhaps a 75mm field gun so you can have vichysoixiante-cinq. That should upset the soup Nazis.
My book is going to be launched soon and Captain Blood's models have been chosen for the cover.Cool.
Here is the final version of the cover showing the title and ISBN number. The publisher is Crowood Press and this is the first book in their new series for wargamers. The layout of the pages is in progress. The book will be launched to wholesalers soon and will be in bookshops in October.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/947/41151071224_995ffb4169_o.jpg)
I'd love to tell you these are in-game shots, but they're not. The trouble with in-game shots is that things never fall as neatly as you'd like for the benefit of the camera, plus you tend to get lots of paraphernalia, refreshments and gamers' beer guts in the picture... So this is just slinging the toys onto the table and moving them around for visual effect :)
Not to mention the ubiquitous gamer crotch shots,
At carumba!
That Tiger's got no chance against the mighty 2lb portee.
Unless it's Nick that's playing, then it's lens flare from his shiny bonce lol
Nor that kick-ass Tilly!
Ruddy fantastic, Richard! Did you shoot it outside? The shadows look like the sun is beating down from right above.
Absolutely brilliant Richard! If you ever sell it the war museum would take your hand off :-*
Comprehensive :D
Lou was really helpful when it came to the AFV colours - Tanake's are pretty easy to find, and a lot of the Hotchkiss etc. seem to have been in the standard Ochre/Olive scheme but there is very little concrete photographic proof. There's a good series of pics showing Australians mucking about with captured Vichy tanks which was really helpful.
Meh, more WB2 ::)
no H39 on Vichy side in Levant ( keep it for a future Free French in Levant one ;) )
no panhard 178 on both sides
no P16
…:D
i/ I know this - and I don’'t care
Captain, this is a wonderful project, but I have to ask - if you have answered this, I missed it - why no Italians? They have become my WW2 army of choice just because, well, I'm not sure why.
Who made the FT?
Warlord. (For a full run down, see p.78!) ;)Thanks.
the Warlord FT is a nice model, just a bit oversized ...How does it compare to the Empress one (or is the relationship similar to the Carden Loyd)?
a lot of the old WG models are either undersized or oversized in fact ...
Nice work as always :)
The Tchekess are what we call Circassians, sort of Caucasian Muslim cossacks if you like, but not actually cossacks, if that makes sense?
Makes sense. Wikipedia have them as near neighbours of the Chechens...
Although I’m struggling to work out how the hell they ended up fighting for the French in Syria and the Levant. It’s got to be the best part of a thousand miles from Grozny to Beirut? They were a long way from home to be in the service of a foreign power... sounds like an interesting story there... much more Back of Beyond than WWII...
not so sure, the uniforms in North Africa were the same than in Europe , except for the "Front Sud Saharien" ...
but why did you let them wear Kakhi shorts , they are not regulation ones ;)
I must admit, I'm sceptical about the camo scheme. It looks a bit garish and overstated to me, but that seems to be how the French liked it... That idiosyncratic sense of Gallic design ;)
Splendid :-*Me too
I really like the rusty exhaust pipe.
Everything about it is delightful. :-*
Any particular reason for naming ‘her’ Cher?
Everything about it is delightful. :-*
Any particular reason for naming ‘her’ Cher?
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/577-080718094019.jpeg)
Fan-tank-stic! ;) :D
Thanks gents :)
Ahaha - see what you did there... ::) ;D :D
Here's the first Vichy wagon off the vehicle park :)
Please explain it to m. It must be a very subtle joke...
I think 'joke' is stretching the use of the word...
Thanks Chris.
I think the camo may look harsh because the French often used hard outlines around their blobs of colour.
Whereas most countries made their AFV camo schemes as deliberately muddy and indistinct as possible, I guess that singular, idiosyncratic, avant-garde French design ethic, drove them to make their patches of different colour camo as stylish and distinct as possible by outlining them in black, white, or more subtle tones... ::)
These are attempts to recreate that unique Gallic look... :)
I'm sure no soldier who'd been in the field for weeks would notice THAT outline... lolBut would probably not notice the vehicle.
Alternately: "Paint me like one of your french camouflage schemes."
But would probably not notice the vehicle.
Also, I'll take back what I said about the Dodge's camouflage. It looks great placed on the board, must have been the unicolour backdrop that put me off.
Thanks Ajax et al. Merci beaucoup :)
No need to take it back, Chris. These French camo patterns really are quite unbelievably melodramatic. You'd think they would draw attention rather than helping the vehicles disappear!
Looking again at the pictures of the models in situ, they obviously look a bit ridiculous with their bold green and brown camo standing out against the bleached sand of the open desert.
To be fair though, significant portions of Syria and the Levant have a fair amount of brush and plentiful groves and orchards - olives, citrus fruits, nuts, cypress - not to mention palms of all denominations and a wealth of flowering shrubs. So I guess they would blend in better in a more mixed Mediterranean environment...
So now your French are practically done, what's next???
and the new Rubicon SdKfz 222/3 kit - when I can actually get hold of one!- I also noticed that the Rubicon UK store seemed to sell out instantly - fortunately Caliver Books Ebay store has them in stock (always found them a reliable seller)
- I also noticed that the Rubicon UK store seemed to sell out instantly - fortunately Caliver Books Ebay store has them in stock (always found them a reliable seller)
and the new Rubicon SdKfz 222/3 kit - when I can actually get hold of one!
Your plastic redefinition and painting is brilliant as usual, but in the moment I‘m more interested in your progress of terrain. Do you have some new stuff? Maybe the first board of Tobruk?
I also noticed that the Rubicon UK store seemed to sell out instantly - fortunately Caliver Books Ebay store has them in stock (always found them a reliable seller)
ebay.co.uk/str/nannyogg999/Rubicon-Models/_i.html?_storecat=8449439012 (http://ebay.co.uk/str/nannyogg999/Rubicon-Models/_i.html?_storecat=8449439012)
I don't have a picture handy, but my Perry are by far my tallest historical figures. My Warlord are the shortest, with Wargames Factory and Old Glory in between.
Beautiful, Richard.
I always wondered what that klunky bit at the end of the barrels of 75s is. Anyone know?
Beautiful, Richard.I suspect a counterweight (assuming the trails are used for towing).
I always wondered what that klunky bit at the end of the barrels of 75s is. Anyone know?
I'll look out references for the bread bag.
Noice! I do like to see a good tarboosh or two. I must have have a million figures with them myself. Big Tommy Cooper fan, see.
Does the enemy get +1 Shooting for a big red target to aim at?!
I've got a boxful of the things myself (don't ask) :D
Clara: Someday you could just walk past a fez.Does that explain where he gets the time?
Eleventh Doctor: Never gonna happen.
But I think it should be possible to find some middle ground between inaccurate breadbags and T-Rexes with laser eyes..
the good Captain has found a nice spot very close to actual history.
Very nice! (as usual)
What base color paint did you use?
nice model as usual ... just one thing ... the aces are platoon signs ( the color is the squadron number Blue for 1 red for 2, green for 3 etc - and the figures the platoon number spade first platoon; diamond 2nd; heart 3rd and club 4th ) so it's a non sense to have a Panpan with the turret belonging to the 1st squadron 4th platoon and the rest of the vehicle belonging to the 2nd Squadron 3rd platoon ...
a bit of schyzofrenia may be ? :D
instead of the heart you could have used a regimental insigna
Love the leftfield vehicles and colonial native troops .
How large is the set Up?
I have 3 or 4 more AFV's / vehicles and at least 25 figures still to paint to provide a decent fighting force... ::)
Thanks fellows :)
Yes Thorbjorn. Still persevering with the unloved Iron Cross. Although haven’t played for several months. Once the Vichy force is complete, I shall make sure to organise a game or two...
The boards are 600mm styrofoam squares, and I’ve done six so far, so that’s basically 1200 x 1800, or 4ft x 6ft in old money. But I have some more boards to do...
Unloved by the people that produced and promoted them at any rate, with no further development, promotion, support or even much in the way of interest after an initial flurry.Iron Cross has a great command order system which should give a fun , unpredictable game
They don’t really seem to have landed well, and appear to have therefore been just left to meander along until they die - even though anecdotally, most of the people I’ve heard from that have played them, say they like them. Not without a few problems, but generally liked.
Well, there’s a lot of fierce competition out there in 28mm WW2 ruleset land, with several big beasts that are very vigorously promoted and supported.
I guess to make a dent in the market takes determination, and either a decent budget or a lot of chutzpah. None of which seems to have been in evidence with this particular ruleset. Pity.
:(
So, I never understood why they were released by a company with an existing WW2-System. So they had to make a decision to support one or the other, but they never really supported Iron Cross. But Richard, you will buy the rights and push it, right? ;) I think it is a clever system with a lot of tactical elements.
Well, there’s a lot of fierce competition out there in 28mm WW2 ruleset land, with several big beasts that are very vigorously promoted and supported.
Well...this multi-page topic has inspired myself to jump feet first into some Perry plastic action. I look forward when my box of goodies arrive this week from Perry to start and explore some of your conversions.
No, the tank numbers are all purely random - whatever decals were available in the various kits. All very random. As long as they look nice :)
Never let historical accuracy get in the way of pretty colours.Truth Brother Roy ;-)
Really nice little model :-*
nice job, as always ... ;)
Is it me or does the officer look grumpy? Maybe because nobody's polished his car :)
Funny you should say that, Dirk...
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=796.0
Or perhaps because no-one’s polished his helmet...
;)
Funny you should say that, Dirk...Oh, it is a sign from above. So, I look for grandpa‘s Helm...
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=796.0 (http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=796.0)
Or perhaps because no-one’s polished his helmet...
;)
The British at war - complete with beach umbrella lol
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Great work as always Richard!
How did you find the quality and accuracy of the Rubicon resin French bits? If I recall, someone else use to do these - Blitzkrieg Minis??? - and Rubicon bought the molds. I am tempted to buy some of their French AFVs, as I can't see them coming out in 1/48...so might go 'downscale' for a change! Do let me (us all) know your thoughts?
Completely agree. They are excellent. More like lightweight, high definition plastic than the familiar grotty lumps of solid, heavyweight resin wargamers are more familiar with.
The only annoying thing is that thanks to Rubicon Models' admirable dedication to continuous improvement, they've just updated the Citroen with an improved model with open (rather than solid) windows, improved exterior detailing, full interior detailing, seats, etc., and a civilian driver!
Right after I painted my original version... >:(
Ah well... ;)
And to think that they did it just to annoy you! ;)
+2 with Poiter50 ... great great models, may be the best 1/56 resin kits i saw ...Excellent models.
And to think that they did it just to annoy you! ;)
What a jewel!
Here is a thing with french tanks: they look under powered when it comes to armamanet in relation to bulk of the tank. It makes me think it the french would not go to war unless there is room for a kitchen, chef and dinner table aboard.
Thanks. Nicely done :)
Yes, it’s a wonderful little model. A joy to paint - although the running gear is a bit tricky. I didn’t even bother trying to get my brush into the crevices to attempt to paint the tyres on the road wheels...
Totally. I always think they look undergunned. But I guess that’s because France was knocked out of the war in 1940 - before the Germans, British, Americans and Russians started putting seriously big guns on tanks. The French AFVs also all have a dash of that quirky and distinctive French style... A bit like some of the early war British tanks with their slightly Heath-Robinson charm, they seem to hark back in design more to the 1920s and 1930s, rather than the coming generation of more, um, businesslike looking tanks that rapidly evolved during WW2 itself.
Totally. I always think they look undergunned. But I guess that’s because France was knocked out of the war in 1940 - before the Germans, British, Americans and Russians started putting seriously big guns on tanks. The French AFVs also all have a dash of that quirky and distinctive French style... A bit like some of the early war British tanks with their slightly Heath-Robinson charm, they seem to hark back in design more to the 1920s and 1930s, rather than the coming generation of more, um, businesslike looking tanks that rapidly evolved during WW2 itself.
Hahaha ... literally doing the same conversion here today (although yours is looking far more distinguished than mine).
Great stuff!
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Lovely stuff. I'd be tempted to add a U.S. halftrack to the German force, as a tribute to all those war movies from the 50s and 60s that did so because they couldn't get hold of genuine German ones. :)
A verry dashing Mein Herr unt Offizier. Stellar conversion, he will look like like he really owns that AC... and even the rest of North Africa.
That is a brilliant idea - thanks Dylan. I can then re-enact Ice Cold in Alex, as I have the Perry character figure set ;)
A verry dashing Mein Herr unt Offizier. Stellar conversion, he will look like like he really owns that AC... and even the rest of North Africa.
QED...
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Looking bloody brilliant Richard! Now stop teasing us and show him on his ride ;D
Lovely :D
That’s superb, your best yet. You might even persuade me to join in a game just to enjoy playing with them. :)
Lovely work! Is that brush or airbrush painting?
I'm not quite sure if the plastic component provided to drape over the top of the turret (thoughtfully, they provide folded and unfolded versions) is meant to be a tarpaulin, a Libyan rug, or a picnic blanket.I would have loved to see it painted as a picnic blanket ^__^.
Haha. Thanks Pablo.After you complete that Italian army? ^___^
But you’ll be a very long time waiting for that one ;) lol
Also, the front stowage bits are a bit confusing to me. The spare wheels go elsewhere (on the side or sometimes at the back) but not obscuring the front vision ports. Also, the jerry can is just asking for trouble, as since you don't have it painted with a white cross it would be for petrol, and if hit in combat would be a molotov type explosion on the tank.Not sure what you mean by obscuring the vision ports, the ports are clear. Admittedly the driver might find parking close to a low wall a bit difficult.
That said, I think you went a bit overboard on the insignia, notably the Balkan crosses....just a couple too many. The one on the front turret would be an aim spot for enemy gunners, so not sure about that one unless you have a photo reference of a crew that was just reckless.
May I ask how you did the air recognition flag?
The dust on the tracks also fab. Washes?
The Fliegersichttuch is a nice touch and works well as an eyecatcher. albeit being German it feels a little odd to see it on full display on a model kit. Certainly not your fault though, it‘s just a case of viewing habit.
Just my opinion...I know you love artistic license when doing stuff, which accounts for what great work you turn out. This time for me, these bits just distract from your final product. :)
The one on the front turret would be an aim spot for enemy gunners, so not sure about that one unless you have a photo reference of a crew that was just reckless.
Also, the front stowage bits are a bit confusing to me. The spare wheels go elsewhere (on the side or sometimes at the back) but not obscuring the front vision ports.
Also, the jerry can is just asking for trouble, as since you don't have it painted with a white cross it would be for petrol, and if hit in combat would be a molotov type explosion on the tank.
I've never known so much attention being paid to stowage! If that's the biggest criticism I would take it if I had a model as lovely as that.
Maybe the jerry can was filled with water?
Some people call it 'baggage', mate.
;) ;)
(You'll be pleased to know though, there were balkenkreuz in other positions I could have added, but left off!
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Ah but Rob, who's to say that jerry can is full? ;)
I’m torn between the new Rubicon Kettenkrad kit and the new Rubicon LRDG Chevy truck... ::)
But I also have some vampires I really must do... lol
Really there should be an emoticon with a little drool escaping from the corner of the mouth especially for threads like this one.Got to agree with this
Excellent work Richard :-*
How difficult to build are these Rubicon vehicles? I fancy doing one.
Bearing in mind, the last time I glued a tank together was 1974. ::)
Been watching old episodes of Rat Patrol on you tube so I don't make any mistakes with historical accuracy ;)
the Rubicon kits are like mini-Tamiya kits
How difficult to build are these Rubicon vehicles? I fancy doing one.Rubicon publish their instructions here:
Bearing in mind, the last time I glued a tank together was 1974. ::)
Rubicon publish their instructions here:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VB-0E7bgCOo/W5OCkUmViUI/AAAAAAAAEGU/JwnoaJnrsEAHGvLTraT1nY7P-ekzgElTgCLcBGAs/s1600/rasp1-12.png (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VB-0E7bgCOo/W5OCkUmViUI/AAAAAAAAEGU/JwnoaJnrsEAHGvLTraT1nY7P-ekzgElTgCLcBGAs/s1600/rasp1-12.png)
The only thing to bear in mind is that their plastic is ABS, so Tamiya Thin liquid poly or stronger is needed. Also, do not assemble in high temperatures, the liquid poly will evaporate before reaching the model ^___^.
...stop it...
lol
Looks a little like an Ork Wartrak. You sure you are not heading in that direction...?
;D
1/56 scale vehicles, 28mm figures :)
Richard, you have hear of Oberst Manfred Pfirsich Marie Rommel, the younger brother of Erwin Romel?
Works well but I think he's probably a little more muscular than the norm lol
Richard, you have hear of Oberst Manfred Pfirsich Marie Rommel, the younger brother of Erwin Romel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Desert_Peach
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Very clever idea and brilliant modelling as usual.
Also, where's your 50+ page colonial kitbashing thread? :)
He’s a Senegalese scout Andy. I just happened to have him on the painting table at the same time, so popped him into the scene. I’ve got about another dozen Senegalese and another 20 white Vichy French troops to paint, including HMG and mortar team, plus a couple more artillery pieces. Then that’s my Vichy French collection done (unless some more interesting French vehicles happen along :))
Then that’s my Vichy French collection done (unless some more interesting French vehicles happen along :))
Any suggestions for the colour of the Artillery pieces? I have a couple of the Perry pieces on my workbench and would like ideas. :)
Thanks gents :)
I'm afraid I'm no expert. I just went with a medium green (VMC 'Russian Uniform') for my 75mm Vichy field gun (below).
I have the rather intriguing mountain gun to do next - which looks like a WW1 relic, so I may go with something a bit more whimsical on that :)
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Lovely little model :-* :-* :-*
I may need to get one of those
Are the crew the original Rubicon?
And it has a dinky little trailer for carrying the shaken markers too.
Bonus!
By the way, what was your record for pages with your Medieval thread, as I think this one will be right up there! ;D
But hey, it's chickenfeed compared to the GW thread - 700 pages, 10,500 posts, and over a million views
Lovely work, sir.
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Good to see that they all stopped at the pub for a quicker snifter before carrying on about their business.
;)
Lovely paint job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
One fault though the white enameled mug is to white, needs some chipping :D
One fault though the white enameled mug is to white, needs some chipping :D
This is the original Perry model - I think it attracted some criticism in some quarters and they may have had it remodelled slightly since I bought this a couple of years back. Not sure what the problem was, as it looks broadly right to me.
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Beautifully finished must look good on the table.
I suppose the most glaring error is the front wings ?
Stonking build and paintjob, Richard. Is the Perry vehicle resin?
I guess you might had the question numerous times, but how do you paint goggles and lenses and the like? Looks very effective!
How have you done the head lights are they clear plastic or painted?
Stunning work what ever they are :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
That is one tough mug that just cannot be chipped, mate.
I did try when I dropped the Rolls on the floor at BLAM, but it had no effect!
Just do not tell Richard or he may have a funny turn......
;)
I was watching you Pablo - you were very careful at all times lol
(You may jest, but some of my other gaming friends are not so careful... The wire aerials on many of the British/Commonwealth vehicles have been replaced several times already ::))
I'm sure it was a blast to play.
Indeed... ::)
Speaking of BLAM, I ran my 'Operation Exporter' Vichy French vs Australians game twice using Iron Cross rules. Didn't get time to take many photos for a proper battle report - Iron Cross rules are simple but require a lot of concentration on who's doing what and to who at any moment! I did however snap off a couple of quick in-game shots though. Just to prove that the toys in this thread do actually get played with a fair amount ;)
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Brilliant new additions to the collection Richard.
Would love to play that Exporter game one day. Actually would settle for any game with your wonderful toys :-)
Thanks Guy, and Peder :)
If you're ever in the vicinity Keith... Would love to play it with you :)
I'm five minutes from J6 of the M25 (although if you're still based out in the Med, that probably wont be much help! lol)
Sharing the love and ideas is what this forum was built for.
This thread is very much inspiring me to get back into my desert project. Just love the table set.
You mean the Vichynity?
I’m currently on 28mm ECW::)
Looking forward to seeing them painted :)
Looking forward to seeing them painted :)Me too
Slightly concerning to see Jeremy Corbyn in the driving seat though ;)
Very nice!!
That would make a lovely diorama all of it's own.
8)
Could be worse, you could have an overweight, stuttering, incompetent, lying buffoon instead!
;)
Will you paint the crew in place or separately?
I would mount each figure on a cork to paint them.
Yours appear to be glued into the vehicle.
Thanks Mick. No, they were only positioned for taking pics. They’re all now on lengths of wire poked up their undersides, then mounted on corks for painting :)
Great stuff, I wouldn’t have thought that carrier was resin from looking at it. Seems a long way from traditional resin wargames pieces.
If I could pick your brains Captain, which adhesive do you use for the Rubicon Resin kits. I have an Sdkfz222 that I was going to start putting together. Many thanks
JB
so even though there are six or seven types of main gun included, right up to a 75mm whopper, there are no instructions on where / how to use these components.
On the guns etcetera, have you looked at the instructions for the later models to see if they are shared sprues?
It could be common sprues for the two kits, I think at one point there was only going to be one kit for all the variants.
Nice :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I've also just invested in an airbrush...
Although this will take my WW2 Western Desert / Syria collection to almost 50 vehicles and AFVs.
Hmmm. There's only one Rubicon Valentine kit for all variants as far as I can see. You can build a II / III / IIICS / IV or V from it. But there are several guns included which aren't referenced anywhere in the actual assembly instructions. Which seems uncharacteristically incomplete for Rubicon, who are usually incredibly thorough about absolutely everything.
Ah well, no matter... I've built the version I wanted anyway :)
Fantastic :-*
I think you’ll pick up using an airbrush pretty quickly, then nothings going to stop you :)
Had a look on their forum, sometimes have to keep chasing something down :P, there's a second kit for the IX / X / XI, the only difference is the sprue for the turret.
Anyway back to being well jelly of your painting.
They seem to have moved all such news to Mr Zuckerberg’s diabolical engine. Probably cheaper but not a great understanding of their market’s demographics.
The last airbrush I had was a Humbrol one, circa 1975. It was useless. Strangely, I still have the black plastic box it came in. The box proved a lot more use than the airbrush.
I’ve now bought an Iwata airbrush and compressor.
Thanks. Yes, it’s definitely a fast way of getting the basics done. A good investment I think.
Redmist - those carriers look great :-*
the Rubicon forum seems at death’s door. Hardly anything on there nowadays. Not even all the Rubicon news ::)
Splendid, love the chap wearing the mask
The Rubicon Lloyd is a great little vehicle - beautifully painted and weathered here ;D
Hammers - I don't think you want to get hung up on the Bren part of this thing. A battalion carrier platoon was used for all kinds of tasks including transporting ammo, men, and casualties. Weapons like 3" mortars and Vickers MMGs also routinely mounted, and those obviously were not as portable as the Bren. The Lloyd carrier was bigger and heavier than the Universal Carrier, often used in anti-tank platoons as a tow for 6 pounder gun. That's why the Rubicon kit comes with a few 6 pounder ammo boxes.
EC
The vehicle sans crew looks a bit weird because the steering wheel is attached to the driver, not the dashboard! ::)I prefer that to having to get the driver's hands
I’ve always thought of Kubelwagens as small vehicles,until I actually stood next to one,surprisingly large!
Hankering to start North Africa…..Digits talk to Bob, he has enough stuff for a Skirmish.
The Loyd had a different role, being used for 6 pounder ATGs, 4.2" mortars, and as an ambulance. It wasn't armoured and was basically a tracked light truck.
Nice work, young man!
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What with it being half term and all that, can we expect extra output this week?
:D
Possibly. I’ve finished the LRDG Chevvy. Just regretting adding six crew members I now have to paint lol
It will look all the better for it, though.
You know it makes sense.
:D
Hugely inspirational thread for my own WDF project :-*
Would you mind me asking how you achieve the ingrained, collected dust effect in tyre grips and crevices on the vehicles? Is it pigment?
Another beauty 8)
Outstanding modelling!
Stunning :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*Yep to all of the above 👍
Love the dusty look
By eck that looks lovely.
As an aside did you buy up all the rubicon 25 pdrs so no-one else could get one?
Superb looking Valentine. I've just painted three myself, although I'm not totally happy with how my own attempt at the Africa Dust wash went compared to yours o_o
That is NOT a dog's dinner of a job.
You should come round to my room
& I can show you what a real dog's
dinner of a job is! :D
I somehow managed to make a minor screw-up in building this (incredibly simple) little kit, and contrived to mount the rear number plate too low so that the lower part is hidden by the bumper, which clearly isn't right. But I looked again at the instructions, and sited it where the instructions appeared to say. All a bit odd.
They're glued in place. (Sometimes they even stick ;))
Great work! I like the way you have the sand in the crevices of the tyres rather than the other way around, how did you achieve that look?
I would believe you if you told me it was 1/35th :-*
Nice, glad to see you back at this :-* :-* :-*
I am just getting back to some of my old stuff, from about two years ago as well. What's next?