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Title: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 27, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
Hi all,

I haven't had much hobby time recently so all I wanted to do was put together a straight forward simple shop. That was a fail as I've made it a bit more complicated by adding a small warehouse to the rear which would fit in nicely with a riverside/wharf layout I'm working on.

I've used my usual technique of embossed styrene sheets attached to foamed PVC. As with the pub I'm completing each section of the build fully before sticking it all together as I find it's easier to paint and add detail using this method. Here's a few pics of where I am with the build.

The shop front (my first one). The shop window frame and sign is made from cut and shaped styrene, it's a bit basic but I'm happy with it and I can only improve on the detail with further builds. The door is balsa with letter box and handle still to be added. The upper windows are Grandt Line S scale:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/1254_27_05_13_1_16_50.jpg)

Here's the rear warehouse bit. The wooden bits are all balsa, the platofrm looks sloped but it's just the wonky angle of the photographer after a few bank holiday ales. The pulley is from Langley and I still need to attach the rope. This part of the building will have an apex roof whereas the shop section at the front will be flat:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/1254_27_05_13_1_18_01.jpg)

Here's a side section to give you an idea of how the roof will work. The lower section on the right is where the apex roof will be and the higher section on the left will be a flat roof similar to my pub and terraces. The large section of brickwork on the left will be covered by an advertisement and I'll try and achieve the 'painted on look' again with decals:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/1254_27_05_13_1_19_53.jpg)

Sorry it isnt anything exciting at the mo but hopefully it will look better once the roof and other detailing is added.





  
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 27, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
Beautiful work matey  :-* :-* :-*

You are getting rather spiffy at this building malarky aren't you  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: orm1 on May 27, 2013, 11:51:41 AM
Excellent again love the detail on the bottom of warehouse doors.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 27, 2013, 12:18:02 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

I could do better though. I have some great ideas on paper but not the time or skill to turn them into actual builds  :(
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 27, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

I could do better though. I have some great ideas on paper but not the time or skill to turn them into actual builds  :(

Oh fie, these are great mate. Anyone would be proud to have them do stop your whinging  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: von Lucky on May 27, 2013, 12:32:32 PM
Excellent work! I'm looking for ideas for VBCW themed terrain. Would you be able to link to the thread with the pub or other terrain you've done?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 27, 2013, 12:36:01 PM
Oh fie, these are great mate. Anyone would be proud to have them do stop your whinging  lol

cheers

James

That's me told!  lol

Lucky, here's the one for the pub. Just popping out so will dig the others out for you later.


http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=45291.90
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: von Lucky on May 27, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
Tanks!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Sangennaru on May 27, 2013, 12:59:43 PM
great start for this new building, thunder! =)
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on May 27, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Looks great. Not sure about the 'not exciting' bit though!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Glitzer on May 27, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
Already looks great as single walls, I cannot wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on May 27, 2013, 02:01:32 PM
Excellent progress TC, shall follow carefully as I really enjoy your builds.   8)
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Mason on May 27, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Stunning work, as usual, Thunderchicken!
 :-* :-* :-*

It is scarily weird how you manage to get one so excited by looking at a brick wall!
 :o

Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Monty on May 27, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
Excellent work!
To me this bulding looks absolutely great. No need to be overmodest.

Cheers
Stefan
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: FramFramson on May 27, 2013, 03:28:02 PM
Looks excellent again! This ought to turn out just fine!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: gamer Mac on May 27, 2013, 05:51:44 PM
Looking great :-* :-* :-*
Love the wood work and colours
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: former user on May 27, 2013, 06:11:23 PM
TC, You have golden hands and an ingenious mind. Did I miss the tutorial where You divulged how You do the brick facades?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Malamute on May 27, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
Effing brilliant me ole china. :-*
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Elk101 on May 27, 2013, 07:54:09 PM
I'll just add my admiration of this, very nice indeed. I'm increasingly realising that I like the visual spectacle only slightly less than the actual gaming element. I'd love a game on one of your tables!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Mindenbrush on May 27, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
Excellent workmanship  :) :) :)
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: War In 15MM on May 28, 2013, 12:05:19 AM
I love the work you do!  Richard
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Andym on May 28, 2013, 06:50:33 AM
Fantastic start!! :o :o  :o :o
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: uti long smile on May 28, 2013, 07:13:23 AM
Luvverly stuff Guv'nor.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on May 28, 2013, 08:18:37 AM
Nice building and I particularly like the muted colours.

Tony
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Sterling Moose on May 28, 2013, 09:38:01 AM
Quote
I'm increasingly realising that I like the visual spectacle only slightly less than the actual gaming element

More in my case.

Great work once again Neil.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Mason on May 28, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
TC, You have golden hands and an ingenious mind. Did I miss the tutorial where You divulged how You do the brick facades?

It is here, mate:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49154.0



Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Constable Bertrand on May 28, 2013, 10:31:33 AM
 :o that is spectacular. You are a pro. The research into brick work really shows. Brilliant!

I am in awe of your guttering too.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: former user on May 28, 2013, 10:50:57 AM
It is here, mate:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49154.0

Merci
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 28, 2013, 11:18:38 AM
Thanks very much chaps.  :) Very humbled by the comments. As I always say, everything I've learnt is from this forum. I'm going to start putting the structure together tonight and then start work on the roof which is something I never look forward to.

Thanks for putting the link up Mason.

I am in awe of your guttering too.

Cheers
Matt
 

Matt, I but it from Forty Third, does the job nicely. Lots of other goodies there too:

http://www.forty-third.co.uk/43_sdm_buildings.htm

Lucky, here's the link to the terraced housing I promised you:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23647.0

Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: von Lucky on May 28, 2013, 11:46:41 AM
Hah - I stumbled on that thread when I first came on LAF last month. This place is like Willy Wonka's factory - so many delights that the senses confuse.

Simply would love to be able to play on this terrain, but like others I'll have to be content and get inspired. I plan on building an old stable converted to a garage for some VBCW games using some of your techniques.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: pocoloco on May 28, 2013, 12:11:24 PM
 :o

Love it!  :-* I hope to see more build pics asap!!

Btw, what's your approx. room/floor height for these buildings?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 29, 2013, 05:02:45 PM
Btw, what's your approx. room/floor height for these buildings?

My building methods couldn't be less scientific  lol The size of my doors are 4cm x 2cm. That may seem a bit high but with the size of figures these days it works for me. Anyway, I use the door as the point of reference for the rest of the build so when I calculate the dimensions of my build it is in relation to the size of the door. Sometimes I use actual buildings for inspiration so I'll measure the picture of the building assuming the door is 4cm x 2cm and scale it from there. Clear as mud?   ;) Saying that, obviously some doors are larger or smaller depending on the type of building but that's easy to get around.

The dimensions of the shop front in this build are 17.5cm x 9.5cm. If there's any other measurements you need feel free to ask.
  
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: pocoloco on May 29, 2013, 05:21:06 PM
Many many thanks for taking the time to answer and reveal your secret good Sir, much appreciated. I have few ideas for couple of brick buildings but the dimension thingy was somewhat holding me back as in making measurements, cutting something and then noticing that it was all bonkers. So this might push over the edge and make me try something out.

Very keen to see how the roof of this shoppe will look like after you have worked your magic on it.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 29, 2013, 05:32:03 PM
Not to tread on Cheek's toes but just be aware that in general Victorian buildings (and buildings in general) have a tall ground floor and they tend to get lower as the building gets higher.

For example, a ground floor might be four metres high, the first 3.5, the second 3 and so on.

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 29, 2013, 06:08:50 PM
Not to tread on Cheek's toes but just be aware that in general Victorian buildings (and buildings in general) have a tall ground floor and they tend to get lower as the building gets higher.

For example, a ground floor might be four metres high, the first 3.5, the second 3 and so on.

cheers

James

Good point there matey, forgot to mention that bit.

Pocoloco, you'll see on a lot of my builds the window size decreases on the upper floors and that's my way of showing the smaller floor sizes. Admittedly, this build is different as the window sizes are the same but that's how they were in the pic I took inspiration from. I just wanted something basic and it took a while to find the right pic.     
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP
Post by: Thunderchicken on June 12, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
Hi All,

Just a quick update. I had time last week to put the building together so these pics give you and idea of the structure.
There's still lots to do such as weathering, finishing the chimney, tiling the roof and getting the signs done along with some smaller details so I'll update again soon.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/1254_11_06_13_9_11_28.jpg)


(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/1254_11_06_13_9_12_34.jpg)

 
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: pocoloco on June 12, 2013, 05:31:55 PM
That is looking awesome  ;D

Could you provide a mere mortal like me with yet another piece of info (sorry if it has come up earlier already); where to get those windows? I know it would take ages to make them myself and the end result would not be pleasing to my eyes nor mind, for that matter.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Thunderchicken on June 12, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Thanks matey.

The shop window and door is scratch built. The upper windows are Grandt Line S Scale and the windows to the rear are Dapol HO scale but I think they work ok for 28mm.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Mason on June 12, 2013, 06:06:10 PM
That is looking bloody gorgeous, Mr Thunderchicken, sir!
 :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 12, 2013, 06:30:10 PM
Shiny shiny mate  :-* :-*

I like the rear elevation  8)

Tiles are on their way  ;)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Svennn on June 12, 2013, 06:35:33 PM
Looking goods Cheeks.  A lot easier to see than the phone pics you showed me.

Painted P.L.O.D. yet?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: pocoloco on June 12, 2013, 07:02:57 PM
Many thanks O' Venerable One!  ;)  :D

Had to place an order for some of those Grandt Line products through Antenocitis Workshop.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Constable Bertrand on June 12, 2013, 08:35:22 PM
 :-* lovely thunderchicken. I really like the warehouse part, it really makes it pop.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: gamer Mac on June 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
another lovely building Neil :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Supercollider on June 12, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
Wow, that is amazing - a work of art!

How do you do the pointing on the brickwork?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: psyberwyche on June 13, 2013, 03:24:55 PM
This is just fantastic! I'm bookmarking all of your threads, cos I'll probably end up copying some of your designs until I get better at doing these brick buildings :-)

If you don't mind, do you have any piccies of some models next to those Grandt line doors/windows by any chance? I think I'm going to place a big order soon, but want to be sure that I'm happy with the scale.

Thanks for the inspirational build threads!

M

Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: joekano on June 13, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
That is stunning work!  :o  Well done!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Thunderchicken on June 13, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Thanks very much chaps  :)


Tiles are on their way  ;)


Ooooh shiney! Oodles of thanks matey, they will finish the roof nicely  :)

Painted P.L.O.D. yet?


The lid is in place and it's undercoated so thats' fast work for me!


If you don't mind, do you have any piccies of some models next to those Grandt line doors/windows by any chance? I think I'm going to place a big order soon, but want to be sure that I'm happy with the scale.


No problem matey, will sort something out for you at the weekend if you can wait till then.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Thunderchicken on June 13, 2013, 08:27:50 PM
Wow, that is amazing - a work of art!

How do you do the pointing on the brickwork?

When I attach the brickwork sheets to the foamed PVC I leave a slight overlap on one edge of each section. So when I put each side of the building together I effectively have an overlap on each corner. I then trim to fit and fill any gaps with Milliput or liquid Greenstuff.

If that's as clear as mud let me know and I'll take a pic for you. 
       
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Thunderchicken on September 09, 2013, 07:57:21 PM
Okay, okay so it's almost finished but as good as. I just need to add some more weathering to the brickwork and the signs.

Svennn put the signs together for me, all I had to do was print them and frame them. I think with a bit more weathering they will work well (cheers matey  :)):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_20_15.jpg)


(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_27_37.jpg)


Here's the business end, the roof tiles were supplied by Jimbibbly's Oshiro modelterrain and rather dapper they are too  :):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_30_23.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_29_03.jpg)

I was up on a flat roof the other week and noticed it had a bit of vegetation dotted about so I've popped some in, might add a small puddle too:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_31_58.jpg)

Bit of advice needed with this bit. I decided to have a broken drainpipe but I'm not sure if the stain on the wall is cutting it. I've used a few washes and then given it a gloss coat (doesn't show up well in the pic), any ideas on what else I can do with it?

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_33_43.jpg)

I'll take some more pictures of the building in it's context as part of a wharf later in the week. Oh did I mention the wharf I'm working on?  ;)

TC

 
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Silent Invader on September 09, 2013, 08:06:57 PM
Proper right, that is.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Svennn on September 09, 2013, 08:07:02 PM
Cracking  :-*  Rather splendid that
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: uti long smile on September 09, 2013, 08:07:44 PM
Outstanding. You've done 'Er Indoors proud! Is this gracing the table on Saturday?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Mason on September 09, 2013, 08:09:07 PM
Bloody brilliant, TC!
 :o

Another great build.
The proprieter may be more than a little suspect but the building certainly is not.
Great work as always, mate.
 :-* :-*

As for the broken drainpipe, I would be tempted to go for a more greenish tone to indicate moss build-up or similar.
I shall see if I can find you a decent example pic of what I mean.
 ;)

Now, back to the serious part of your post...a wharf, you say....

Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Elk101 on September 09, 2013, 08:14:24 PM
That's just marvellous, it really is. I think Paul is right about a greener stain on the downcomer break. But, hey, that's a minor detail! It's great. Cheers, Steve.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 09, 2013, 08:43:01 PM
Bootiful  ;D

Keep the drainpipe as it is, looks fine to me  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Malamute on September 09, 2013, 09:00:38 PM
That my friend, is a work of art.  :-*

The attention to detail is spot on. ;D
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: gamer Mac on September 09, 2013, 09:30:18 PM
Lovely addition to the town :-* :-* :-*
I would go with a bit of green as suggested
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Braz on September 09, 2013, 10:16:02 PM
Amazing. :-* :o Another museum quality piece. Lovely details as usual.

Re: drainpipe. A little bit of ignored neglect - "we'll eventually remove that when we repair the drainpipe". If available I would still have the broken pipe bracket/clamp at the bottom still on the wall as if the pipe was removed but the bracket left in place or have bottom pipe section still attached to the wall but askew from the upper section.   Also the runoff when it reaches the ground probably would pool a bit at the bottom and not run straight off unless the concrete lip was at an angle.   In any case it looks good enough already.

How dare you tease us regarding a wharf! :) Looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Andym on September 10, 2013, 06:13:40 AM
WOW!!..........just..WOW! :o :o

I think the drainpipe is subjective. I think it looks fine the way it is. Some people might add green, some brown, but nobody's wrong. The gloss'll work!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Blackwolf on September 10, 2013, 06:34:47 AM
Lovely :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Constable Bertrand on September 10, 2013, 07:09:36 AM
Shock and awe!  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Mason on September 10, 2013, 07:38:21 AM
Mr Chicken of Thunder: Click on the piccies in this link:

http://www.maintenancematterswales.org/making-your-plan/40

Some sound ideas in there.
 ;)

Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Thunderchicken on September 10, 2013, 07:43:09 AM
Thanks all, very humbling as usual.

Thanks for the advice with the drainpipe, there is already some green on there but the pic isn't bringing it out very well. Perhaps anyone seeing it at Colours at the weekend can let me know what they think then  ;)

Braz, I thought about leaving a bracket on the wall but forgot all about it. Great minds think alike..... until one of them forgets.. ;)

As for the wharf, a few bits have come together and I'll post some pics next week. Still quite a way to go with that one yet.

Thanks again for the comments and advice.  
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: pocoloco on September 10, 2013, 09:14:18 AM
That's just one stunningly beautiful piece TC, bloody marvelous. You wouldn't happen to have any extra ones? :D

The missing pipe detail looks great as it is, only thing that comes to mind is maybe adding a wee tiny water effect pond underneath... if it has rained just recently, that is. And since it's is the UK, I guess it rains constantly or at least there is a moist windy atmosphere :D But all in all, I think it doesn't need anything extra, just perfect as it is.

... in it's context as part of a wharf later in the week. Oh did I mention the wharf I'm working on?  ;)

No, you didn't mention it but we demand pics now!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Sterling Moose on September 10, 2013, 09:37:49 AM
Super spiffy, great work Sir!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: FramFramson on September 10, 2013, 06:37:44 PM
No, you didn't mention it but we demand pics now!

Hear hear! Can't wait to see the wharf!

Is it just a platform, or are there buildings too?
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: War In 15MM on September 11, 2013, 10:30:01 PM
Beautiful!  Richard
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Mindenbrush on September 11, 2013, 10:33:13 PM
Top job and very inspiring  8) 8) 8) 8)

How thick are the roofing tiles as I have some styrene tiles from a UK supplier and they look way too thick - 1mm thick I think - so difficult to get them to lie correctly.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy WIP - Update Page.3
Post by: Coronasan on September 16, 2013, 10:23:36 AM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/1254_09_09_13_9_27_37.jpg)
Saw these all in the flesh at Colours at the weekend and had a chat with Mr Chicken. Look even better all together on a gaming table. Liked the screen printed mat as well.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Thunderchicken on September 17, 2013, 09:17:13 PM
Thanks very much chaps. I promise I'll post pics of the wharf soon, it is indeed a mix of buildings and canal side, anyone who saw the table at Colours would have seen it in its early stages.

Mindenbrush, the tiles are around 1mm or just under but as they are card so wont have difficulty getting them to lie correctly.

Coronasan, was good to meet you. Glad you liked the table.   

 
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Chairface on September 17, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Hammers on September 18, 2013, 09:07:08 AM
The King of Brick reveals his powers yet again.
Title: Re: New Victorian build - Shop Thingy - FINISHED page.4
Post by: Mindenbrush on September 18, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
[Mindenbrush, the tiles are around 1mm or just under but as they are card so wont have difficulty getting them to lie correctly[/quote]

Thanks for the reply, supplier noted :-)