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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Cold War Reference Repository => Topic started by: carlos marighela on July 05, 2013, 11:41:14 AM
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Following on from the suggestion of my friend the Pierrot. A listing of vehicles guns and useful bits to go with post WW2 kit, well up to the late '80s really. History effectively ended when a group of German hooligans decided to dismantle the garden wall anyway.
I'll kick it off but anyone can add their tuppence worth, that's what the thread is for. I'll list anything twixt 1/64 and 1/48 that I can think of with appropriate comments on medium, scale, quality and availability.
Let's start with all things British.
Tanks:
Centurions.
1) 1/55- 56 scale.
Force of Arms makes a number of superb resin Centurions marks in approx 1/55 scale. These are resin kits with some white metal bits, typically a commander, MG, gun barrel (some of mine are resin). Beautiful kits, John makes both the Mk 3, suitable for Korea and Suez and the later 105mm barrlled Mk 5/1. FoA is currently undergoing a longish sabbatical but John was kind enough to make up some models to order when i contacted him directly.
Corgi made a diecast Centurion that for a cheap toy, isn't a bad representation and it scales out fairly well for 28mm figures. You would need to replace the barrel and add some detail but if you are looking for a cheaper alternative, these are easy to find on ebay.
2) 1/48 scale Centurions.
Hartsmith, AKA Hart Models are producers of high quality resin kits and also finished versions of those kits. I don't own them but from the photos I've seen and the praise I've seen lavished, they seem to be pretty much in a class of their own. If you fancy wading through their catalogue, you'll find pretty much everything you want with a few exceptions. Centurions, Chieftains, Ferrets, Saracens, Saladins and all kinds of softskins. The owners recently announced they were winding down ooperations so how long they will continue to make these models is anyone's guess. The biggest drawback is price. These are serious collectors models and it shows in the pricing. Big, big $$$.
Aurora. Fairly famous 1/48 plastic kit dating to the 1950s, version is the Mk3. Reasonably rare these days so usually ebay venors and the like want an arm and a leg.
3) Other: Polistil, an Italian toy maker made a diecast Centurion back in the 1970s. Not seen one in the flesh, they are fairly rare and very expensive. Not sure I would bother on the basis of photos I've seen. Allegedly circa 1/50 scale.
Best of the bunch that won't cost an arm and a leg: Force of Arms.
Comet: Yes, the dear old Comet saw post war service. They soldiered on in Berlin and Hong Kong into the late 1950sand even saw limited action in Malaya. Jeff Trnka of JTFM produces one in 1/56 as does Warlord/Bolt Action. As everything I've seen from Jeff is first rate, I'd plump for his if I needed one. Corgi made a diecast in 1/50
Cromwell: Saw limited use in both Korea and Palestine. Warlord/ Bolt Action and JTFM both produce them in 1/56. Tamiya makes a rather nice model in 1/48. Corgi made a diecast in 1/50.
Chieftain: Hard to find. Ian Crouch made one in 1/56, I believe the master passed to Sloppy Jalopy, who may or may not be going to release it. Dinky made a dicast toy of which I harbour fond childhood memories but IIRC it's somewhat overscale for 28mm. Polistil also produced a diecast. Only other option I can think of is the hartsmith version mentioned above.
Conqueror: Oh come on, insane as it is, what real Cold War warrior doesn't harbour dreams of a Conqueror? It's Britains Maus for the modern age. Alas model makers don't share my enthusiasm as no bugger makes it. :(
Challenger: Just about falling into the 'Cold War' era, the Challenger is available from Empress and also as a toy from LAF Member Cuprum. Some work will be required to create a Challenger Mk. I from both of these though.
Teeny tin tanks AKA Scorpion and Scimitar.
Imprint, now owned by Empress, have the Scimitar in 1/50.. Alas it's a pretty late version. Bob's models are simply amazing, the benchmark for sculpting and resin casting. Alas he confined himself to ultra modern kit so this is one of the few examples I can accomodate on this list.
HLBPS do pretty much the entire CVRT family in 1/48; Scorpions, Scimitars, Stormers etc etc. Red Star also carry them. For true Cold War Warriors and Falklands buffs, you'll want to take a saw to the extraneous late model stowage bins on the Scorpion but at least it's a start.
APCs:
FV432: Sloppy Jalopy in 1/56, ex Chieftain. Two versions one standard, one with Peak Engineering MG turret.
Warrior:
Two choices. In 1/56, TAG; in 1/50 Imprint/Empress. Both seem to be Gulf war or Iraq 2 Versions. I don't think anyone does a suitable unadorned late 1980s version so these are your best proxies.
Wheeled Fighting Vehicles ( armoured cars,scout cars APCs and the like)
Ferret. Probably one of the most useful vehicles to the post war gamer out there. Service everywhere from Malaya to the Gulf War(s).
Four options. Sloppy Jalopy make a nice, Ian Crouch sculpted resin and metal kit of the Mk 4/1 in 1/56. axles could do with some work and they way they package their kits in blister packs isn't ideal but this is a very nice kit. So good I bought four of them.
Option 2 is the old Corgi diecast. It's an early open topped version and scales out at about 1/50 ish, ie noticeably bigger than the SJ version. Needs new wheels and some added detail like smoke dischargers but for a toy it's pretty well detailed. If trying to match 1/48 scale kits, then it is an affordable option.
Option 3 is the very pricey Hartsmith version
Option 4 Commando Miniatures early Mark I version.
Saladin: My favourite armored car, ever. Corgi make a very nice diecast toy. They made these for many years and some were made in Hong Kong. As a result, they are plentiful and cheap on Ebay. This scales almost perfectly to 1/55-56. The gun barrel needs replacement, it's of the old insert plastic shell, firing mechanism type but easily replaced with brass or aluminium or even plastic tubing and a bit of metal foil. Needs smoke dischargers and a cupola MG but beyond that it's almost the ideal gaming toy. Hartsmith make one in 1/48.
Saracen: Britannia, ex Inkerman make this in 1/56 in resin. It's one of the few items I currently lack but by all accounts it's a lovely model. They also make a post war Daimler Dingo with dustbin turret if you are after models for the Malayan Emergency.
Dinky made a diecast Saracen. Pretty rudimentary and I belive the turret is fixed.
Humber Pig: Sloppy Jalopy in 1/56. Contrary to popular belief these didn't just serve in Northern Ireland. They popped up in all sorts of places, like West Germany in the late 'fifties and allegedly a few made it to places like Aden.
AT-105 Saxon:
Sloppy Jalopy produce one in 1/56.
Daimler Armoured Car. Ok it's another WW2 leftover but they did see service in Palestine, Malaya, Cyprus and Suez. Warlord make one in 1/56 and there is a nigh ubiquitous Dinky diecast available as well.
B vehicles, Trucks and other softskins.
Land Rover: Oddly enough for one of the most ubiquitous vehicles in military service anywhere, probably second only to the Willy's Jeep, there's very little out there at least in terms of the earlier marks, like the Series II and Series III.
TAG make a beautiful stripped down 1/56 Series II in resin. It really is a wonderfully crisp and well detailed casting. Alas the wheels are way too thick and they only give you four (where's the spare, you tight bothered buggers?) I've had to search high and low to source suitable alternatives. Still it's the only game in town. Pretty much all the diecasts are way to big and the ones that are useful tend to be late models like the Defender.
Commando Miniatures also make an early SWB Series I/ II. Their website doesn't mention scale but to put it mildly, it's somewhat undernourished. It might just be pushing 1/60. I bought one second hand and frankly it's an underwhelming piece of kit. roughly cast and poorly detailed. I can't say I'm a fan. Others' mileage may vary.
Austin Champ. The Rolls Royce of post war 4WD. Alas it was in a similar price range. Still they saw considerable service up to the early 1960s. Dinky did a diecast. Plentiful and quite a nice little toy. Probably scales out around 1/58- 1/60. Perfect for Malaya, Cyprus or Suez. Only thing you might want to change are the wheels.
Bedford RL: The British Army truck of the '50s through to the '70s and beyond. Archetypal post war medium truck. ProMod make a simply superb, if rather expensive multi media kit in 1/50 scale. Resin cab, body fittings, with white metal chassis, wheels etc and a vac cast clear insert for the cab. Main body screws together like a diecast. insanely good model but fairly pricey. Small company that provides excellent service. I only wish they did more military vehicles in this scale.
Cheaper alternative ( marginally) is the Dinky 1/60 scale diecast. Functional and looks the part but nowhere near as good as the ProMod.
Humber 1 tonner. Very common vehicle in the 1950s and 1960s, also the basis for the Humber Pig and the Hornet, which was a supposedly airportable armoured can version with a pair of whacking great Malkara anti- tank rockets on the back. Dinky make a really beautiful diecast complete with clear windows in approx 1/56 scale.
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Part 2, British Kit contd.
Bedford MK: The successor to the Bedford R series. The British Army's medium truck of the seventies through to the Gulf War.
ProMod make the TK, whisch is the nigh identical civilian version (the MK was 4WD) in 1/50. Both short wheel base and long versions. Corgi did a newish MK diecast in British army scheme that only really requires some weathering. It's the long wheel base version, annoyingly and bizarrely it comes packaged towing a 25pdr so it's an expensive toy.
Various diecasts. Various civilian Fodens and of course the famous Antar tank transporter exist in diecast. Many saw service with the British army.
Guns.
Bit thin on the ground here. There's an appropriately scaled 5.5" howitzer available from Dinky. Not sure what use most people would have for a medium gun but they did see service in various post war conflicts. Most notably as counter battery units during the Indonesian Confrontation in Borneo.
Sandsmodels make the L 117 105mm Light Gun. useful for the Falklands and beyond. They also make crew for said model.
Hartsmith make 1/48 models of the Wombat and Mobat 120mm RCLs.
Alas the big gap in the market is the 105mm Pack Howitzer of Aden and Borneo fame. Pity it's one of the most ubiquitous guns of the post war era. It's also justifiable on a table as they were used in single gun detachments at fire bases in Borneo. Perfect objective.
Helicopters.
I'm sure there's no shortage of Lynx models or Chinooks and what have you but the pool for the 1960s gamer is pretty small. Italeri do a nice Sioux, with appropriate decals in 1/48 as well as an astonishingly good Wessex in the same scale. If you want Whirlwinds or Belvederes then 1/72 is your only option. Corgi do a diecast of the former and Airfix a plastic kit of the latter.
Alas the only AH-1 Scout in all of modelling world is the old Airfix 1/72 kit. Fujimi did a Wasp in 1/48 but it's rather rare these days and would require quite a lot of conversion work to turn it into a Scout.
Figures. Suitable ranges in 28mm.
Eureka: tropical kit for Aden and at a pinch Borneo.
Commando Miniatures: Aden and Borneo.
Mongrel Miniatures (sporadically available through Inkerman) these do a suitable range of British Army in temperate kit that would work for anywhere from 1960 through to the mid 1980s. Their Congo mercenary range also have some figures useful as proxies for British Army/ RM in tropical kit.
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Part 3, French kit.
Interestingly enough, French kit is pretty well served for 28mm. You have all the diecast 1/50 stuff from Solido/Verem, loads of modern gear from QuarterKit in 1/48 and the French branch of Dinky, made some nice little toys back in the 1960s.
Tanks.
Solido/ Verem made quite respectable 1/50 diecast models of the AMX-30 and AMX 30B2. Usual Solido style unrealistic model tracks but spray painted a dark metal black they look the part.
Ever wanted your own table top tactical nuclear weapon? Well Solido also did the Pluton SP nuke on the AMX-30 chassis. I've never quite been able to justify one myself but...... just in case. Both Corgi and Solido make 1/50 diecast models of the AMX-30 D, the recovery variant
Solido mades several versions of the AMX-13 light tank, including the version with SS-11 missiles attached to the sides of the turret. They tend to have the export model 105mm gun but that's an easy fix, if you are a purist and it's helpful if you want to model those countries that used the version. They also make the F2 155mm SP howitzer version.
Dinky made an earlier FL-10 version of the AMX-13 (the 75mm gun version). It's a very basic model and has rather unconvincing rubber band tracks. On the smaller side of things. Nominally 1/60 but none the less it has a certain appeal. They are bloody expensive to buy these days. look for scruffy versions and be aware that if you find a cheap version with a bent or broken gun barrel there's a French chap who sells after market white metal accessories like complete turrets on ebay.
APCs:
Solido/Verem, make the AMX-13 VTT /VCI as well as a variety of VAB variants in 1/50. Quarterkit also do some modern variants of the VAB in 1/48 resin.
Sandsmodels also make two versions of the VAB, four wheel and six wheel in resin. Scale I believe is around 1/60.
Armoured Cars:
The Panhard AML-90 is available from Solido/Verem in 1/50. FoA also makes this version in 1/56 resin
Dinky make the AML-60 in 1/60, FoA make it in resin in 1/56.
Dinky made rather nice models of the EBR FL-10 and FL-11 versions in 1/60. My second favourite armoured car. The latter version was used exclusively in Algeria. Getting expensive these days, see pervious comments re after parts and buying play worn examples.
Softskins:
Dinky made 1/60 scale models of the Berliet Gazelle, the Unic and various Renaults. They are all pretty good models, the Berliet is particularly nice.
Quarterkit make a rather nice model of the Acmat VRLA in 1/48, Sandsmodels make the same item in 1/60 as well as the Peugeot- P-4 Jeep. Company B also make a P-4 in 1/56
Helicopters.
Alouette 2. Not sure if anyone makes one.
Alouette III. Fujimi make a really shitty to build kit that's supposedly 1/48 but more like 1/55. Solido/Verem made a diecast version taht's actually pretty good and about 1/55. Eureka produce a resin/white metal/vacform kit in 1/57.
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Part 4. The Soviet Union.
Tanks:
T-54. Don't know of anyone making a dedicated T-54 model in any useful scale but fortunately there are plenty of T-55s out there.
It's rare, it's a toy and as a piece of Cold War history you should probably just leave it in it's box. VEB Plasticart made toys in the DDR and they made a T-54, allegedly in around 1/50. They pop up occasionally on ebay. To be honest they are pretty rudimentary, with one piece low relief suspension and little wheels under the hull. But you would have the pleasure of plaing with a genuine bit of Warsaw Pact kit. :)
T-55: FoA make a very nice resin T-55 at 1/56. For my money the wargamer's dream is the diecast version made in China and frequently seen on ebay. Cheap and very well detailed they scale in a shade under 1/50. The only reference I've ever seen to a manufacturer is the eponymous "Made in China" but these are easy to find on ebay.
There is also a similarly scaled diecast that was produced as part of a James Bond toy collection. Nicely detailed and covered in reactive armour. It's not a strictly accurate depiction of any updated T-55 that I'm aware of but it looks the part and would work well for Balkans or Third World type scenarios.
The ex London War Room "Jungle Rot' range contains a T-55 in 1/56, these are available through RLPBS
T-62: I understand Chieftain made one and it might be one of the masters Sloppy Jalopy obtained. Hopefully a future release. The folk that produce the Chinese diecast T-55 have a teaser ad in the packaging that shows a T-62. Alas, all search efforts have failed to turn anything up. Prize to the man who does.
QuarterKit/Gasoline produce a T-62 in 1/48 and there is a 'Polystone' model in the same scale produced by Fujimi
Polistil produced a diecast T-62 in the 1970s. Never seen one in the flesh but the photos don't look particularly enticing. I suppose if you just have to have one....
T-72: Imprint/Empress produce a beautiful T72-G, the export model in 1/50. A real work of art.
There exists a cheap, motorised, plastic kit in nominally 1/48 scale. It's been variously marketed by Academy, Zhengdefu etc etc. It's NOT 1/48 or anything like it, it's probably around 1/40. This is true of most of these kits which are in truth box scale'. The wheeled items like the LAV-25, various BTRs etc all share the same lower hull and wheels. Only the BTR-80 comes close to 1/48.
T-80 : About the end of what I would consider Cold War kit. Imprint/Empress produce one but IIRC it's a post cold war export model.
PT-76:
RLPBS make one at 1/56 and there is a new Spanish company, Combat Models that makes a rather nifty looking version in the same scale. Th latter are available through Empress. VEB Plasticart made a PY-76, again allegedly circa 1/50. East German child's toy and fairly expensive.
T-34/85: Ok it's a WW2 tank but these saw so much post war action it deserves inclusion. Plenty of resin 1/56 models out there from JTFM and Warlord but my personal fave is the Warlord/Bolt Action 1/56 plastic kit. This really is a superb little model, well detailed and goes together very easily, better conversions potential due to the medium.
SU-100: Again, strictly speaking WW2 but saw considerable service in the Middle East. Warlord make a resin 1/56 version . JTFM have one listed as forthcoming in the same scale. Solido/Verem produced on in 1/50 and finally there's a rather decent version by Corgi in diecast.
JSI-3/ IS-3:
The tank that sparked a minor panic in the West. Limited action in the Middle east. Aurora made one in 1/48. Apparently it's a pretty indifferent and inaccurate kit. Available on ebay for usually fairly silly prices.
T-10, T-10 M. Nope, sorry no takers.
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Part 5, The Soviet Union Contd.
APCs/ Recce Vehicles etc:
BTR-152: Company B have produced a master in 1/56. Currently awaiting production.
BTR-60PB. Sloppy Jalopy produce one in 1/56, ex Chieftain. There is a rather crude looking Russian diecast out there that is allegedly of a useful scale.
BTR-70: Sloppy Jalopy, 1/56. Quarterkit produce one in 1/48 as IIRC did Planet Models If you are in extremis, the there is the Aurora/ Zhengdefu plastic kit.
BTR-80: Imprint/Empress. Lovely model, could benefit from some brass wire foot steps. Resin 1/50.
BMP-1:
Sloppy Jalopy in 1/56; HLPBS in 1/48
BMP-2: Sloppy Jalopy, 1/56; HLPBS in 1/48
MTLB: HLPBS 1/48
ACRV: HLBPS, 1/48
BMD-1, BMD-2: HLBPS 1/48
ASU-57: Nothing out there
ASU-85: Ditto., The Prague Spring will have to wait.
BTR-40: Company B have made a master. A Shapeways version is available in 1/56
BRDM 1: Save for a 1/43 Scale Solido diecast of the Sagger armed version, nothing out there, which is a real pity as the actual vehicle is incredibly cool
BRDM-2: Sloppy Jalopy, 1/56. HLBPS, 1/48, Gasoline 1/48
Softskins:
There are one or two trucks out there including a few Russian diecasts in 1/55 scale, mostly variants on the Ural-375. LAF poster Cuprum, sells these on his webstore, along with the ZIL 130 and 131. They can also occasionally be found on Ebay. Sloppy Jalopy have a 1/56 scale GAZ-66 and fellow poster Col Stone recently mentioned that he had the master for a Soviet truck. If you aren't too anal about thse things, then Solido Studebaker makes a pretty decent proxy for a Zil-157.
Sandsmodels, produce a UAZ-469 in 1/60, alas nobody produces it's predecessor, the GAZ-69.
SSMs ( Surface to Surface Missile systems): Ok, I know, you think you don't want one even as an objective marker but hey a whacking great Scud missile? Arii make several variants of the Scud in 1/48 and very nice models they are too. Solido/Verem make the PT-76 hull version of the FROG 3/5 AKA the 2K6 Luna missile.
SAMs.
In a similar category of silliness, there exists a 1/50 diecast SA-2 Guideline missile made in China alas I cannot recall the maker but they appear on ebay from time to time.
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Gents, if nobody has any objections, what I plan to do is to add your input/products to Carlos's list, as he gets to the appropriate country and then delete additional posts, other than Carlos's list itself... that way anyone can just access the list from the beginning of the thread, without having to sift through more pages than they need to.
Your involvement is really appreciated (and essential) though and thanks to all who have contributed so far, you know who you are!
I'm hoping we can create a good resource by and for the community, but that will necessitate cutting posts to make it accessible and easy to sift through. Feel free to chip in as and when though.
If anyone would like to do the same for 20mm, they are more than welcome and I'll support it in the same way... there is no Apart-Height here. ;)
Thanks to Carlos for taking this on btw. :)
Those of you who are lead or resin barons, I'll add your contact details and all that in a post to follow the lists. I have Sands Models and Empress, but anyone else, post them up here please and I'll C+P them into the lists.
Please note that this is a 'Cold War' era (1945 to 1990) list and not a 'Modern Period' list (anything after 1990).
:)
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Supplier Contacts:
ASAM (aka Hartsmith Models): http://www.asam.co.uk/
Britannia Miniatures (Grubby Tanks): http://www.britannia-miniatures.com/catalog/
Combat Models (aka Warmodelling Miniatures): http://www.warmodellingminiatures.com/
Commando Miniatures: http://www.commandominiatures.com/
Company B: http://www.companyb.biz/
Empress Miniatures (aka Imprint): http://www.empressminiatures.com/
Eureka Miniatures: http://www.eurekamin.com.au/
Force of Arms: currently on an hiatus, but some can be acquired via Wargames Command Post: http://www.thewcp.co.uk/
JTFM: http://www.diewaffenkammer.com/
RLBPS: http://www.rlbps.com/
ProMod Diecast: http://www.promod-diecast.co.uk/
Redstar Miniatures: http://www.redstarminiatures.eu/
Sands Models (aka S&S): http://www.sandsmodels.com/ e mail: sales@sandsmodels.com
Sloppy Jalopy: http://sloppyjalopy.com/
Solido/Verem Diecast: various... but a pretty full list of what has been made, can be found here: http://solijouet.free.fr/msv.htm
Studio Siberia (aka that guy 'Cuprum' ;) ): http://www.siberia-miniatures.ru/
Quarterkit (aka Gaso.Line): http://www.phpshopxml.com/quakit.shop
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Part 6 The USA
Tanks.
Let's begin with the beguine to coin a phrase.
M-26 Pershing:
Ok it's a WW2 era beast but it saw most of it's action in Korea. Warlord make one in 1/56 and there's a superb looking model on it's way from JTFM. Tamiya make a Pershing in 1/48 as did Aurora back in the 1960s.
M-24 Chaffee.
Similar comments apply except that this is a wonderfully useful vehicle not just for Korea but for Indochina, Algeria, the Indo-Pak conflicts etc, etc. Company B and Warlord both produce in 1/56 resin.
M-41 Walker Bulldog
Diapet, an ancient Japanese toy company made a tinplate version in 1/50. Bit of conversion and it's quite an acceptable model. Rare as hens teeth and pricey if you find one. Good luck!
M-46:
Nobody makes one that I am aware of but if you possess decent modelling skills you could use an M-26 as the basis for a conversion.
M-47:
Solido/Verem make a diecast toy in 1/50. Usual Solido issues, wrong number of return rollers and of course Solido tracks but overall a decent representation.
M-48:
Force of Arms make three versions in 1/56, the mostly export M48A2 and Israeli versionand the diesel M48A3.
Corgi make some superb diecast M-48 A3's in 1/50. These are pre-painted 'collectors models' not the old diecast toy standard. They do a variety of USMC and US Army variants.
Revell/ Monogram made a 'snaptite' M48 A2 many years ago in 1/48. This was re-released a few years ago. By all accounts it's a decent model if somewhat simplistic. Revell have recently announced a new snaptite M-48 A3. t's designed as a child's toy, comes in a fairly garish fantasy colour scheme but looks like a pretty accurate depiction. Worth looking out for, see here: http://www3.omnimodels.com/cgi-bin/woi0001p?&I=RMXS1756&P=1
M60.
Tamiya makes two versions of the M-60 in 1/48. The original production M-60, sans any A suffix, with the M-48 style turret and the M-60 A2 'Starship', the one with the 152mm gun/missile system. These are both motorised pre-built models. Apart from being probably the two least useful versions of the M-60 series, buyers should be aware that this series of models all utilise the same generic running gear and lower hull. That said they are pretty decent models and overall look the part.
M-103.
The beast. The US answer to Conqueror. Alas for the insane in our ranks, nobody makes one. Would be an intersting scratchbuild project if you have a spare couple of M-48 hulls floating around.
M-60A1.
This was the major production variant or a fairly important vehicle of the post war era, there's a real dearth of available options. Corgi made a diecast toy in approx 1/60. To make this work, you will need brass/aluminium/plastic tubing for a new gun barrel, brass wire, putty and a fair degree of patience. the biggest problem is that the model sits quite low whilst the distinguishing feature of the M-60 is that it was a very tall vehicle. The similar M-60 A3 variant is similarly missing in scale.
Polistil did an M-60 back in the 1970s, apparently. not seen it myself.
M-551 Sheridan
Company B produce one in 1/56 resin.
M-50 Ontos.
Everyone's favourite oddity. Six 106mm recoiless rifles mounted on something that looks like it escaped from a 1930s tankette assembly line. Company B make one in 1/56.
M-56 Scorpion SPAT.
Arlequín's favourite oddity. A 90mm tank gun with a bullet proof shield mounted on a converted Ontos chassis and designed for the Airborne Divisions. Used by the 173rd Airborne in Vietnam... but oddly, other than the oddly scaled 1/40 Revell Kit, I'm not aware of anything usable for our needs.
M1 and M1A1 Abrams.
Things take a turn for the better when it comes to Abrams iterations, that's if you want the 120mm gun armed A1 variant and have deep pockets.
In 1/56 there are two superb pre-paints out there. Hobby Master made two versions of the M1A1, in Nato three colour camo and one in a tan desert scheme. This, I believe is the same model as the Sword Precision version. Both are OOP but can be found on ebay for silly money.
Strictly speaking, the M1A2, falls outside our period, but if people want a superb alternative, then the Imprint/ Empress resin model in 1/50 is the one to have. With a razor saw and some courage, it woukd be possible to back date the model to an M1A1 by removing the CITV sight and making some adjustments to the commanders station. Gasoline also make a superb resin model in 1/48
For '80s buffs, sorry to say but there ain't no 105mm armed M1 or M1-IPMS out there. Convert an existing later model if you want one.
M-728 CEV:.
Nope. Pity, everybody loves something with a dozer blade and a 165mm demo gun. :D
(Note I've omitted reference to the Academy/ Zhengdefu 1/48 kits cos they're shit. Your mileage may differ.)
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Part 7, The good old US of A contd.
APCs, IFVs etc.
Let's start with the most ubiquitous, bucket out there, both the real item and it's wargaming counterpart, the M-113.
M-113/ M-113A1
Plenty of choice here.
In resin, 1/56 or thereabouts:
TAG, Parkfield; RLPBS 'Jungle Rot'; Eureka (two Australian variants, one with simple shield the other with T-50 turret)
Force of Arms make a variety of M-113 variants, including ACAV, basic buckets and the T-50 turrted version.
M113-A3.
Late Cold War variant, with added external fuel tanks. Imprint/Empress produce one in 1/50 resin.
M-113 Variants.
Cardstock: Fellow LAFer, Laser Cut Card makes an M-113 inspired generic APC that witha little work could make an acceptable bucket.
Corgi make a number of diecast M-113s as part of their Vietnam range. Be aware that these are actually 1/43 scale models, contrary to what some people would have you believe.
Force of Arms produce the M-132 Zippo, flamethrower variant as well as the M-577 Command Post, the M-106 107mm mortar carrier and the Australian Saracen turret armed M-113 FSV
Imprint/Empress make a late version M-106 A4 in 1/50.
Ok, I'm sure I've missed something, someone. Apologies if I have but I'm sure someone will fill the gaps.
V-100/ XM-706, Commando series.
Force of Arms produce the T-50 turreted version in 1/56. Solido/Verem make both the turreted and non turreted versions in 1/50 diecast. (Tip for modern gamers: If you can wangle a spare turret from the Imprint/ Empress AAV-7A1 kit and combine it with the Solido Commando you would have an M-117 one of the most ubiquitous convoy escort vehicles in Iraq)
LVTP-7/ AAV-7A1:
Sandsmodels make the former, early version in 1/60. The latter version is available from Imprint Empress but IIRC this version with the applique armour is post 1990.
M-59:
The 1950s in a tin can. Alas, a dry hole in 28mm or any other scale barring 1/300 if it comes to it. I have a few decent photos of a Brazilian example if anyone is interested in making one ( highly unlikely I know lol)
M-75:
Ditto but arguably less useful anyway.
M-114.
Well you would have to be a hardcore ARVN player to want one but for completeness sake... Oh and the answer is no.
M-2/ M-3 Bradley.
Imprint/ Empress in 1/50, nice looking model.
LAV-25.
Imprint/ Empress in 1/50.
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Corgi made both the Cromwell and Comet in 1/50,fairly rare but they do pop up on ebay.
Bandai made a Daimler kit in 1/48 again rare but do pop up on ebay,usually for big bucks.
Also I had a couple of the Aurora Centurion kits and they are not really 1/48.I'm not sure where they actually land on the scale chart but its not 1/48.
Hope that helps
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Corgi made both the Cromwell and Comet in 1/50,fairly rare but they do pop up on ebay.
Bandai made a Daimler kit in 1/48 again rare but do pop up on ebay,usually for big bucks.
Also I had a couple of the Aurora Centurion kits and they are not really 1/48.I'm not sure where they actually land on the scale chart but its not 1/48.
Hope that helps
Thanks Pete, I'll add those.
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Good work!
I want a little supplement your list. In my store you can buy, except those models which you wrote:
- Soviet / Russian army truck "ZIL-131" (1/56)
- The Soviet of general-purpose truck ZIL-130 (1/50)
- Challenger 1 - the MBT of the British Army (1/56). This model needs a little gradually completed (glue pullout gun barrel, remove the toy lighting equipment on the front of the turret and finish the details in her place, repaint).
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/index.php?cPath=41_39_52_53
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<snip> Good work!
I want a little supplement your list. In my store you can buy, except those models which you wrote:
</snip>
Thanks for that Cuprum, I have added them to the appropriate sections. :)
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Part 8 West Germany ( It's the cold war boys, Germany gets a set of geographical prefixes)
Tanks:
Leopard 1.
Currently available only as a diecast but there are several options. Corgi made one in circa 1/50 as did Solido and Polistil, Solido being the best representation of the three
Leopard 2.
Apart from the cheap plastic 1/48 (???) kits the only Leopard 2 of any mark that I'm aware of is the diecast, 1/50, Leopard 2A5 made by Siku. This is actually a rather decent model but sadly represents a post Cold War mark. Still, it's the nearest thing available and the dedicated modeller could probably fashion their own turret for an earlier A4.
Gepard SPAA. One or more of he terrible trio Zengdefu/Kitech/Academy make one in 1/48. Problem as ever is the hull and running gear. If you can pick one up cheap would be an easy kitbash with a Solido diecast hull. I've seen photos of just such a model and it looks pretty good.
Jagdpanzer Kanone Tamiya make a 148 version in their range of pre-built kits. Probably not beyond the average modeller to convert one to the HOT missile armed version.
Light recce Vehicles.
Wiesel:
Company B make 2 versions in 1/56
APCs/IFVs.
Marder. Arii, a Japanese kit maker do one in 1/48. Apparently it's a reasonable kit their kits tending to have a better reputation than the Chinese/Korean knockoffs.
Tpz Fuchs:
Nothing, that I'm aware of.
Softskins:
Unimog:
Solido do a version in 1/50. Dinky made the earlier 406 model in 1/60
Mercedes G Wagen:
Company B in 1/56
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maybe i should mention that i still have the master for this aswell,
it's a little hurt from a previous moulding but it's getting repaired... sloooowly lol
Cold war era T80 BV
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i295/Col_stone/modern/T80/topleft.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Col_stone/media/modern/T80/topleft.jpg.html)
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Hi all
LaserCutCard are now making a 1/55 Buffel. This is a multipart kit made from heavy card, MDF and plastic.
It is available in either the standard "buffel" version or a flatbed version referred to as a "moffel".
http://www.lasercutcard.co.za/vehicles (http://www.lasercutcard.co.za/vehicles)
Kind regards
Neal
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Just getting into this as a hobby what r the best makers of helicopter for this scale I assume 1/48 looking for 2 hueys , a cobra and Mabey a Blackhawk ?
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Some rather disparaging comments have been made about the Commando Miniatures Land Rover earlier in this thread and the production team would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight.
First of all scale. The Land Rover is criticised for being underscale. In fact the model is exactly to 1/56 scale as any check of the dimensions will quickly reveal. The original Series 1 SWB had a wheelbase of 84” which is 1.5” in 1/56 scale. The model has a wheel base of precisely 1.5”. Similarly the width overall is 59.1” equating to 1.06” in 1/56; the model is very fractionally wider than 1”. Later variants had a wheelbase of 86” – we suspect we will be forgiven for not producing a second version 0.04” longer than the first.
If the model looks small, it is because the Series 1 Short Wheel Base Land Rover is a small vehicle and anyone who has owned or driven one will usually comment on how compact it is. Overall length is 11’ 4”, which is actually shorter than a modern Mini.
The Land Rover master was fabricated by a skilled model maker who has made vehicle masters for a number manufacturers. We set out to make a life-like representation of the original, suitable for wargamers. It has all the necessary detail including door handle recesses, windscreen wipers, lights, number plates and radiator grille. We would be the first to admit it is not a fine scale model; we leave that to companies such as Accurate Armour. Our aim was to provide a model of a ubiquitous vehicle, suitable for many armies over a twenty year period, and at a price which would allow customers to purchase two or three if required.
Casting was initially carried out by an experienced resin casting company, more recently we have commenced casting ourselves. Any item which does not meet our quality standard is rejected and goes in the bin. Every item that has been packaged for sale has been a crisp clean casting with minimal flash. We are always ready to replace, free-of-charge, any defective item. In nearly 18 months of online trading we have had to do this once so far (not a Land Rover casting).
Commando Miniatures is always ready to take suggestions for improvement or constructive criticism. However we cannot allow unsubstantiated criticism to go unanswered especially where it is factually incorrect.
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Here are the original remarks.
Their website doesn't mention scale but to put it mildly, it's somewhat undernourished. It might just be pushing 1/60. I bought one second hand and frankly it's an underwhelming piece of kit. roughly cast and poorly detailed. I can't say I'm a fan. Others' mileage may vary.
Well I'll happily accept what you say about the scale. I haven't actually got a set of calipers and a tape measure out on the example I have. To me it feels small, especially when sitting next to the TAG LWB Seies 2 and I still think it feels titchy next to the 28mm British I have. Still if it's the correct size, then I retract my remarks regarding size. It cetainly matches up size wise with a die cast Mini I have which purports to be 1/55.
Regarding the quality of the model itself, well naturally enough that's a subjective thing. What I can faithfully report is that I purchased an example of said model from another member of this forum. The casting was fairly rough, detail soft and the wheels are out of round, at least the hubs are. Mine underwent quite a bit of sanding and ended up being painted in a civilian scheme because it just looks odd next to all the other vehicles I have. Not a thing of beauty but quite serviceable, especially as it is the only example out there and as I said originally, others mileage may vary.
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I got my eye on one of the James bond car collection T-55. to represent a updated Type 59D for my Empress PLA. Does any one know if they scale to each other?
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Check this blog Moody:
http://wpggamegeeks.blogspot.com/2012/07/fun-with-size-and-scale-156-150-143.html (http://wpggamegeeks.blogspot.com/2012/07/fun-with-size-and-scale-156-150-143.html)
I wouldn't mind a tank like that either, you found your on Ebay?
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These ones scale perfectly and might prveveasier to convert to a T-59 D.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-43-Russian-T-55-Tank-Military-Diecast-T55-/121338778516?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Kits&hash=item1c405ad394&_uhb=1
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A lot of Gaso.line's stuff is a little new for this thread, but they've just re-released their ERC-90... :-*
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Is there an RCL in 28mm or close scale?
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Gentlemen,
HLBS has just released the ZSU23/4 as part of their Cold War/Modern Vehicle line. Here is the Catalogue page entry: http://www.hlbs.co.uk/product.php?id=828
Enjoy!
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Thank you!
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Just spotted the PLA ZBD-05 has been released by Empress Miniatures. It's in the webstore and pictures are posted to their Facebook page.
It's also posted to the Empress New Releases thread.... lol
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Good news. Seems that Blitzkrieg's BMP-1 will soon be with us, to be followed by a Chieftain. I must say the placement of the Sagger is a bit off but I'm not fussed, I'll be leaving it off anyway.
http://www.tiny-soldiers.com/index.php/Thread/14634-BMP-1-von-Blitzkrieg-Miniatures/
http://www.blitzkriegminiatures.com/
Exciting times indeed. :)
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Good things come to those who wait and all that.
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Some more Land Rovers:
Matchlock Miniatures's "Winter of 79" includes a Series III, with or without tilt, and a variant with a rear-mounted Wombat:
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=22&CategoryID=82&SubCategoryID=360 (http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=22&CategoryID=82&SubCategoryID=360)
TARV Models does a Series II LWB model, original by Ian Crouch - with tilt, with frame only or without. Sadly it's been listed as "out of stock" for months:
http://www.tarvmodels.co.uk/?product_cat=land-rover (http://www.tarvmodels.co.uk/?product_cat=land-rover)
Slowest website ever, but it does load eventually. They also do RN and UNIT decals.
And Akula made some very nice 1/55 SWB Land Rovers for his Apocalypse Isle range. I don't know if he has any left (I seem to have bought quite a few!):
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=69062.msg849829#msg849829 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=69062.msg849829#msg849829)
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And speaking of ubiquitous 4X4s, Rubicon Models have a 1/56 Willy Jeep hard plastic kit on the way. It's the WW2 MB, of course, but there were a few hundred thousand of them still knocking around post-War. And the conversion potential is considerable:
http://ttfix.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/rubicon-models-new-willys-jeep-previews.html (http://ttfix.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/rubicon-models-new-willys-jeep-previews.html)
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I am looking for a M18 57mm Recoilless Rifle in 28mm. does any one make one?
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I did but I'd have to cut it off the figure it's mounted on. :)
Seriously, it's a pretty easy job. Finest aluminium tubing or plastic if you are so inclined, green stuff and some fuse wire. Telescope I made from some fine plastic rod IIRC
Sad thing was I went to the effort, converting a ZANLA RPG gunner, only to find the Indonesians didn't use them and I need to make a Yugoslav M-57. Get around to it one day.
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lol Yeah I was thinking of making my own. Just checking first.
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More Land Rovers:
Crooked Dice have announced a 1/50 resin model, with integral tilt hard top:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=94092.msg1161232;topicseen#new (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=94092.msg1161232;topicseen#new)
Warbases have kits made of MDF and card, both Long and Short Wheel base. They also have models of a Ferret, Humber Pig, Saracen and Saladin, but I can't say those look particularly succesful from the photos on the Warbases web site. Listed as 1/56.
Corgi also made an SWB Series III as a diecast in their "Fighting Vehicles" range. By my measurements, it works out at 1/48.
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Photos have surfaced on theie FB page of Blitzkreig Miniatures new Chieftain and T-55. Looks like they an't far off.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Blitzkrieg-Miniatures-430200807012644/photos/?tab=album&album_id=441484369217621
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Tamiya have now released a 1/48 M1-A2. Saw one today and somehow fought the temptation. They also do a 1/48 Type 10 MBT as well as a Japanese VBL lookalike.
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I wasn't aware of this site. It has a few resin 1/48th modern vehicles.
http://tank-mania.com/
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I am looking for a M18 57mm Recoilless Rifle in 28mm. does any one make one?
https://www.anyscalemodels.com/shop/m18-recoilless-rifle.html
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I'd like to add the Charioteer (essentially a Cromwell with a rather ungainly turret mounting a 20pdr) to your list, in the hope that, along with the Conqueror, some bugger'll decide to make one.
(I also assume you're aware that Blitzkrieg now do a MkV Centurion & a Chieftan & JTFM will have Rich H's Centurion - which can be made as either a III or a V up soon.)
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A new manufacturer of several sizes and countries is Butlers Printed Models.
The sizes range from 6mm to 28mm and 1/48 scale. they fill some holes Ive been unable to find elsewhere. The
best example is 28mm t-55 tank ive been unable to find elsewhere in s similar scale. Give them a look.
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Coming out in 1/48th scale at some point, a T-14 Armata. Some of the variants could be cool too if they do them.
http://www.detailscaleview.com/2018/02/ark-models-t14-armata-overview.html
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--qNrxJheMHc/WnN7piGNPWI/AAAAAAABK54/CxTUId18vWku62UWIVFhBKgyCI_3GAUewCLcBGAs/s1600/P1030317.JPG)
Kings Hobbies and Games currently make a 3D printed one in 1/50th as well. That doesn't cost anywhere near the price of this one however. ;)
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Nice! :'( slurp excuse me :D
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A third contender for the T-14 Armata in 1/48-1/50th. Empress are due to release this next week.
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/28619448_1597384950358621_3033290844511340844_o.jpg?oh=dd3035db9e46ad696ea4ba30587c36ff&oe=5B052ECB) (edit: the image link has since failed, but its now available on their site)
Kings Hobbies and Games meanwhile have said they're going to have the T-15 APC variant coming out as well. Between the two T-14s the Empress one most resembles what was shown in the publicity shows, though the other may be based on earlier (speculative?) designs (?).
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From Tank Mania. An SA-6. The scale is 1/48th.
(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35741649_632906683711683_8507031552704643072_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=3585616b0d0fc6900b9e0b37a5f8c15a&oe=5BA8B463)
Past experience on this company's kit's been 50/50. The resin's fairly brittle, so you may want to be extremely careful when removing the tracks from their sprue along with any smaller pieces. I'd also hazard that the kits seem to be geared at modellers rather than wargamers, so there is a degree of finnickiness when it comes to attaching the smaller parts and you may want to leave off some to prevent damages with handling.
However, that site has a fair few vehicles available for 1/48th- 50th scale wargaming that to date aren't available anywhere else (bar a few like the Shilka, and soon to be T-55 from Blitzkrieg Miniatures), so may be worth a look. I did but my own Acacia SPG when it was on sale however, and it still cost more than most resin kits (like £35 off the top of my head, rather than I think the fifty odd it normally costs).
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Tiny Terrain Models have just announced that they'll be doing a Soviet T-62 in 1.50th scale as a follow on from their War in Chechnya Kickstarter. Without any ERA for ease of use in multiple periods.
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Spectre Miniatures will be releasing a BMP-1 at some point in the future. Removable track guards are a definite plus, and the detail's so far the best I've seen for this vehicle in this scale (1/50th).
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44674094_10215272912889355_4182385289659940864_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-1.fna&oh=545151edc6cec356dd4c16f3eb1e035e&oe=5C88BCD4)
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If that comes with sideskirts then I might just replace my existing Blitzkrieg BMPs. I do wish someone would do a BMP-2D.
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I had a go at a pair of BMP-2Ds made out of Empress's BMP-2s. Just plasticard really.
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/3/3/934434_md-BMP-2D.JPG)
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Tiny Terrain Models have released the renders for their 1/50th scale T-62. I foresee a lot of potential for this one with both Cold War and later Middle Eastern conflicts. ...Assuming its reasonably priced. I may have to shelf an idea I have for a spare T-72 and go ahead and use this for it instead. :)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48361971_2244118635650281_6843257038659649536_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-1.fna&oh=ca113530bf2c472853478c6abd24cd91&oe=5C90A5FE)
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It will need to be competitively priced, there’s a rather nice 1/48 one available from Gasoline/Quarter Kit.
http://www.phpshopxml.com/quakit.shop/CID/879e40a1c9a5c9739d40ccac1ac2e661/function/itemPageDisplay/shopItemCode/GAS50087K
Here’s one being super detailed that gives you a good look at the kit itself:
https://peterhamann.com/2014/03/29/more-148-scale-t-62-fun/
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I'd seen that T-62 before when looking for kits. However, for wargaming I just can't justify the price of those models which are made for display. For the price of Gasoline's kits you can near enough buy two of Empress'. Of course there's more detail to the display pieces (and if you look to Tank-Mania's T-55 there's even more detail ...for it coming out at nearly 3 times the price of an Empress tank), but its wasted on wargamers I think.
We'll have to see how the Tiny Terrain Models T-62 is priced. If its edging the £30-40 pound mark then a more direct comparison with Gasoline's may be necessary. However if its sub £30, then there'd be no question for what wargamers would buy. Hopefully things go well with Tiny Terrain Models, as I'd like to see them cover more Soviet vehicles which aren't produced at a competitive price (or at all) in this scale, though I may be a bit over confident in that. We'll have to see.
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I have a number of Gasoline’s kits. Things like etched brass side mirrors and the like aside, I’ve found them to be reasonably robust and you can always leave off some of the more fragile bits or replace them with sturdier items. IMO they are every bit as sturdy as the average plastic kit and really not much less so than the dedicated, resin, wargaming models.
The T-62 appears to be in this category and it’s even got a turned barrel, no bendy barrels. If they would just do the BDD upgrade with the brow armour, I’d buy one in the twinkling of an eye. I reckon I’d replace the AAMG cos resin machine guns are fragile but beyond that.....
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Gasoline's resin looks robust enough from that site you linked. Nothing like what Tank-Marnia uses (the tracks on their kits are so brittle I broke a load of mine just taking them - carefully - off their sprues). And yes, you do get a load of little etched brass details too which are nice.
However I just feel as though that level of detail's lost on wargamers. Both as our existing collections are typically of lesser quality, and that with the amount of handling that the models go through those spindly little pieces wind up being torn off regardless. Comparing my models against 1/48th scale kits which are for display shows off this, with for instance the bar armour on mine being much thicker than both those models and the real ones for the sake of the thing's not snapping off in every other game.
Yes though, Gasoline's kit seems respectable, its spoiling us a bit. If it were the only option I'd maybe treat myself and buy one eventually, but in my wargamer mind that's just funds which could go elsewhere. Hopefully Tiny Terrain Models' T-62 isn't a fiasco when it comes out, as it looks like its going to have enough detail to be a cut above some of the hand made kits we already have, though of course ideally also cheap enough that the lack of etched brass and a turned metal barrel don't seem that much of a loss (especially if we can afford one of their tanks and maybe a set or two of figures as well to go with it, compared to just one Gasoline tank).
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Might be worth a look. A company which primarily makes 1/56th scale 3D printed models. Their Cold War section isn't massive, but I notice that there's a T-54 in there which can come in 1/48th scale.
Further investigation may be required on the amount of finishing required for their unfinished prints - as they're substantially discounted from the already fairly cheap prices.
https://thetankfactory.uk/
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52161706_10102494780436953_7349850243699048448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-1.fna&oh=2283f3290950aaf5bc31a1e247f2933b&oe=5D23A002)
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Thanks for the link, I will look at their Centurion for Aussies in Vietnam.
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If you want an Aussie Centurion you’d be better off looking at the JTFM version, sculpted by LAF’s own Richard Humble. More expensive but comes with all the necessary bits and won’t require you to spend all that time dremelling off the glacis bins, spare tracks etc.
Those do look quite good and the price point is lovely. Might wait to see some painted versions or better resolution shots of them.
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I wouldn't be suggesting that site for any vehicles which there's a resin alternative of. The detail on these aren't great (look at the wheels on the German Puma), but if they're your only option then they may be worth the work. Their WWI section for example has a few late-war prototype tanks which I've not seen for sale elsewhere.
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My mate Vodkafan has, at my request, been buying Dinky military stuff.
This is part of my desire to play again with the toys of my youth (long, long ago),
and part to do a 1960s wargame with British troops.
I will, hopefully, post some pictures soon. This will show them after he has
worked his magic
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I wouldn't be suggesting that site for any vehicles which there's a resin alternative of. The detail on these aren't great (look at the wheels on the German Puma), but if they're your only option then they may be worth the work. Their WWI section for example has a few late-war prototype tanks which I've not seen for sale elsewhere.
I have some Tank Factory vehicles and was pleased with them.
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Trying hard to find 1:48 Soviet choppers for Afghanistan I came across news of a 1:48 MI-8 Hip to be released by Annetra:
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234989250-148-mil-mi-17-mi-8mt-hip-by-annetra/page/6/
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At long last... well almost. That model has been rumoured and expected for about four years now. Will be a honking great bit of plastic in 1/48, I have a 1/72 version and that’s not small. I suspect the price tag will be eye watering.
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At least the price must be lower than the resin version available :)
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In my search of chopper models I came across this source suggesting there were 6 Mil Mi-2 choppers in Afghanistan:
http://www.worldairforces.com/Countries/afghanistan/afg.html
I will now purchase the 1/48 SMER model ;D
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/sm-r-0990-mil-mi-2--166363#