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Title: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 17, 2013, 10:55:12 PM

A 40K Death Ferret miniature was released by GW in the late eighties.  This is the image on Stuff of Legends (http://www.solegends.com/citrt/gyrinxetc/40kgyrinxetc.htm).  The ferret is the one on the left:

(http://www.solegends.com/citrt/gyrinxetc/_MG_9314.jpg)

There isnt any background on Death Ferrets in the Rogue Trader rulebook or any of the associated publications from that era that I have.  Were some sort of rules for the ferret published in White Dwarf or something or was it just mentioned in passing somewhere?

Does anyone have any more info?  Not the most pressing of concerns Ill admit, but some of you guys probably know :)



Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 17, 2013, 11:30:37 PM
Probably Paul, I'll dig through the tomes at the weekend.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 18, 2013, 06:46:00 AM
Probably Paul, I'll dig through the tomes at the weekend.

That would be great Mark. Thanks.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: dijit on September 18, 2013, 06:47:43 AM
I can't say I've ever seen any rules or fluff form it.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Torben on September 18, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
I am pretty certain that the ferret was a result of the GW policy of the time to make rules for all of their available miniatures. Seeing as to how anarchic and chaotic it was in those days, it is probably the result of someone sculpting a ferret, getting it cast and then they had to put it somewhere - so it ended up in the RT section, but without any rules attached to it, unlike the other two :)
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: aliensurfer on September 18, 2013, 07:06:49 PM
I've got from WD 94 onwards and all the RT era stuff, I've never seen it mentioned either.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: area23 on September 18, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
You might want to check all the scenario suggestions in RT. There was tons of the weirdest things, nerdy jokes and obscure references packages as background stories.  Maybe there's something about the ferrets there too.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 19, 2013, 11:01:45 AM
You might want to check all the scenario suggestions in RT.

The goofy fun stuff in the scenario section of the RT book usually references things that are already dealt with in the rules.  The scenarios mention things like Ambulls, Cthellean Cudbears and Grox for example, but I dont think that the Death Ferrets get a mention.

It is possible that the Death Ferrets are mentioned somewhere else in the RT book, but I dont think so.  I devoured that book as a boy and had a pretty encycopaedic knowledge of it for a few years (although much of that faded as I got older).  I could be wrong, but I dont think that Death Ferrets get a mention.

I've got from WD 94 onwards and all the RT era stuff, I've never seen it mentioned either.

I jumped on the 40k train around the same time and I struggle to remember anything about the Ferrets.  I am certain that I havent seen any rules and any background beyond a mention of the name.


it is probably the result of someone sculpting a ferret...

The Gyrinx and the Ferret look like early Jes Goodwin sculpts to me.  A bit like the old Wood Elf beasts in style maybe.


...getting it cast and then they had to put it somewhere - so it ended up in the RT section, but without any rules attached to it

This is what I strongly suspect too, but I hope to be proven wrong.

Thanks for the contributions so far.  Anyone else out there have any further info?



Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Storm Wolf on September 19, 2013, 07:54:43 PM
I suspect it may be a plains weasel :o

Possibly based on the story Deathwing featuring American Indian type Terminators making a recruitment visit to their homeworld, only to find that a space hulk containing Genestealers has crash landed there and destroyed the hunter-gatherer society that they came from.

One of the marines non-imperial name was Weasel fierce!

Glen
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: joroas on September 19, 2013, 08:00:30 PM
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One of the marines non-imperial name was Weasel fierce!

Was he the lesser of two Weasels?   :D
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 19, 2013, 08:47:29 PM
I suspect it may be a plains weasel :o

Thats an interesting idea (and I had forgotten all about Weasel Fierce, Two-Heads-Talking and co) but Deathwing was a 1990 release IIRC while the Death Ferret was released a few years before that.

It is a fun idea though. If it turns out that there isnt any actual Death Ferret background Im quite happy to adopt whatever line or two there is about weasels in the Deathwing story as 40k ferret canon :)

Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 19, 2013, 08:53:52 PM
Death world creature I'm sure. I'm still diving through old wd's etc...
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Jonas on September 19, 2013, 10:08:36 PM
On another note, is any companies making any suitable substitute for the real deal?
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 19, 2013, 10:23:15 PM
On another note, is any companies making any suitable substitute for the real deal?

There is a titchy ferret as part of the Reaper Bones Familar pack. Its tiny. I got a familiar set as oart of a mates order and seeing as there was a ferret in it I figured it woyld do as a Death Ferret. Hence this thread :)


 http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/familiar/latest/77176
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Citizen Sade on September 19, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
Otherworld's giant weasels would make any marine soil his power armour:

(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/giantweasels1paint1.jpg)

Plenty of other stuff with RT potential in the Otherworld range. Worth a browse.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: thequestingvole on September 19, 2013, 11:22:28 PM
Ah Deathwing loved that story.  I am generally well inclined to all members of the weasel family.

It comes of being a vole.

As a result of my weasel obsession - number of weasel themed cocktails were born.

They were -

The Fierce Weasel

Two shots rum, one shot slivovitz, shake over ice. Pour into a Tom Collins glass, add a dash of cranberry and top up with orange juice to taste.

The result is a sweet cocktail with a kick and burny aftertaste.

The Dark Weasel ("The Diesel")

Substitute dark rum.

The Frozen Weasel ("The Freezle")

Add contents of Fierce Weasel to mixer with ice. Crush ice.

Serve with a sprig of mint.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 19, 2013, 11:24:26 PM
Otherworld's giant weasels would make any marine soil his power armour:

They certainly would!  The weasel supplied in the Reaper Familiars pack is tiny.  check it out:

(http://sho3box.files.wordpress.com/2112/02/ferret.jpg?w=468)

(the weasel is the small white thing on the assassins base)

Definitely more of a nuisance than a grave threat lol

Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 19, 2013, 11:35:15 PM
Depends if the ferret can get into powered armoured trousers.

Ouch!
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Gun bunny on September 24, 2013, 10:44:32 AM
I read a story once where a young man was left to the tender mercies of a weasel like carnivore that could eat a hole in a cow from udders to throat in less than 6 seconds and moved like a track star on speed, on the good side it became slower the more it consumed and he drowned it before it could finish his pelvic region off, got stuck on the bone as i recall. so not much in the Armour piercing category, but much to be said for it's speed, initiative and damage (or number of attacks) capabilities. Also only appeared in small family units, territorial i guess.

anyway that is what comes to mind when i think of a death weasel or a giant shrew on p.c.p.(i see either as small).

P.S. if this story sounds familiar to anyone drop me a line with the title so i can read the book again, thanks.
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: area23 on September 24, 2013, 09:27:33 PM
Splintered Light does 18mm weasels:
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-133546587642587_2264_113537345)
http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/giantweasels.html
and 20mm were-weasels:
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-133546587642587_2264_53391621)
http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/gowe1.html
and these:
http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/weasels.html
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on September 24, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
and 20mm were-weasels:
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-133546587642587_2264_53391621)

A were weasel... seriously?
Vampiric Hedgehog anybody?
Zombie Doormice?
Ghost stoat?

Although given my location, perhaps a zombie Badger would give the men from the ministry a run for their money....
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 24, 2013, 11:13:08 PM
Were newts now they would be cool  ;D
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: cheetor on September 25, 2013, 10:54:33 AM
Splintered Light does 18mm weasels

I quite like those, plus they are Bob Olley sculpts, which adds an extra bit of RT flavour.  Its also cheaper to order a pack of six of those from the US for delivery to Ireland than it is to order three of the Otherworld models from the UK  :o

Funnily enough the Splintered Light 15mm Dire Hyenas (http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/direhyenas.html)somehow look more like what I think a vicious space Death Ferret might look like (particularly if the models were painted in an absurd/exotic colour scheme):

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-133546587642587_2264_90255729)

Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: theottovonbismark on September 27, 2013, 05:26:28 PM
Those dire Hyenas are pretty sweet for a Death Ferret Proxy I think.


"It is possible that the Death Ferrets are mentioned somewhere else in the RT book, but I dont think so.  I devoured that book as a boy and had a pretty encycopaedic knowledge of it for a few years (although much of that faded as I got older).  I could be wrong, but I dont think that Death Ferrets get a mention"

He is not kidding about devouring that book, it is partly the reason we pwnd the GT Pub Quiz in erm 200?...well I cant remember which year it was now, there was a lot of drink involved.  Come to think of it the English lads all buggered off early leaving Bugmans staff to try to tactfully eject us Irish and Germans, good times. :)
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: thenamelessdead on September 28, 2013, 01:06:10 PM
I own the old 1986-1991 Citadel Catalogue and can categorically state that it's not in there.  Not even amongst the Chaos familiars or Undead oddities!  That leaves the faint possibility of it being Marauder or A.N. Other, but not sure.  The monkey thing in the middle immediately made me think 'Jokaero'!
Title: Re: RT40K Death Ferret Background/Fluff?
Post by: Jonas on September 28, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
Yes, it came in a blister of Jokaero, Death Ferret and Gyrinx. We know it is a Rogue Trader release, we are trying to find some fluff or text about the critter  ;)

The Gyrinx and Jokaero are featured in the RT book while the Death Ferret is not.