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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Engel on October 02, 2013, 12:32:01 PM
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I have started to paint some medieval Swedish troops but had the intensions maybe include soldiers from Norway and Denmark later on. We will see exactly how this thread will develop.
A friend of my told me he had just ordered a box of Norman infantry from Conquest Games and that he always wanted to do a sort of skirmish game and paint some Danes.
I thought to myself: -Hang on; I got some of those lying around at home as left over bits from my Norsemen project. These could work perfectly, and this time I don’t need to convert them so much.
And with some troops painted I think its time to reveal them to you all.
And I started painting. I have to admit it was kind of fun to paint these.
I started to paint some casualties marker as I wanted to try out some new bases I got.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-myX2Ng6XqSA/UkBASmHMYQI/AAAAAAAAFaU/lLZ3_HBvSjw/s800/P1000808.JPG)
More picture at http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/09/casualties.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/09/casualties.html)
These were fun so I continued with some cavalry.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u0mOK4peM6Q/UkiEGa1eDxI/AAAAAAAAFd4/4WAeVtQZ9Ko/s800/P1000831.JPG)
More pictures at http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/09/swedish-medieval-light-cavalry.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/09/swedish-medieval-light-cavalry.html)
And later some mixed infantry.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2khWXn-dBdI/UknnkZSaBRI/AAAAAAAAFfM/9jIYuXJhghY/s800/P1000843.JPG)
More pictures at http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/09/medieval-infantry.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/09/medieval-infantry.html)
For the painting I thought that I would try to keep it as brown and dirty as I could but still include some colors.
The color choice of blue and white are meant to represent Swedish troops from the House of Eric .
My initial plan is to paint up some Sverkers, Folkunga and troops from Denmark and Norway but we will see how good I can follow that plan.
Another idea I have is to get a later force and instead focusing on say Northern Crusade or something like that. The plan is to keep much of the miniatures rather generic so I can use them for different factions or settings.
Some quick wikipedia links for those of you that want to catch up on history.
Erikar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Eric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Eric)
Sverkar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Sverker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Sverker)
Folkungar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bjelbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bjelbo)
I had these Brettonian archers that Ive painted previously and they were added to this project.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LhQBySboiKM/ULIfYqk08HI/AAAAAAAACos/yxrTSseooWM/s800/P1040854.JPG)
More pictures at:
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2012/11/archers-ready-aim-fire.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2012/11/archers-ready-aim-fire.html)
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2012/11/medieaval-archers.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2012/11/medieaval-archers.html)
For rules, I’m not sure yet. I got Hail Caesar at home so that could be an idea for larger games later on, but for skirmish games I’m rather open. I had an idea of trying out Songs of Blades and heroes but skipping all things magical or fantasy.
Here are my whole collection at the moment.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0P3svXkhODI/Uku96u5uGHI/AAAAAAAAFgg/dnl6xxclvwQ/s800/P1000854.JPG)
More pictures at http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/10/medieval-force.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/10/medieval-force.html)
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Mighty fine looking collection already! :o
Your chosen colour palette looks good, spot on for the grim North, nothing too fancy and colourful what the pansy Middle Europeans had ;)
Keen to see this project to expand, keep 'em coming and your sword blade... erm, brush edge sharp.
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Looks great. When can we expect to see Arn Magnusson?
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Thanks.
Galvin> Ohh I´ll try to keep this alitle more historical then that. I didn´t know the Arn movie was known outside Scandinavia.
Nice inspirational movie atleast. Very good movie props.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r067mJfuJAg
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Nice looking group you have there. :)
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What a great little project :)
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12th century Scandinavian Knights
The Baldishol Tapestry, 12th century (http://warfare.gq/12/Baldishol_Tapestry.htm)
The Scandinavian knight on the Baldishol Tapestry (http://warfare.gq/12/Baldishol_Tapestry-knight-large.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=10713&d=1378726602)
The upper knight on the Valthjofsstadir church door, c. 1200 AD (http://warfare.gq/12/Valthjofsstadir_Door-knight.htm)
The lower knight on the Valthjofsstadir door (http://warfare.gq/12/Valthjofsstadir_Door-knight2.htm)
Scandinavian knights by Ian Heath based on the Baldishol Tapestry & Valthjofsstadir door (http://warfare.gq/WRG/Feudal-58-60-Scandinavian_Knights-12-13C.htm)
Sigurd kills Regin, a carving from a stave church, Norway, 12th century (http://warfare.gq/12/Sigurd_kills_Regin.htm)
& a detail of the helmet worn by Sigurd (http://warfare.gq/12/Sigurd_kills_Regin-detail.htm)
Scandinavian Militia by Ian Heath based on Sigurd kills Regin (http://warfare.gq/WRG/Feudal-62-Scandinavian_Militia.htm)
Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/index.htm)
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Arn is on Netflix. That is how I saw it, then bought a copy from my local Walmart.
Very good movie. Highly recommended.
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Yeah Arn is a pretty good movie.
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Excellent! Love the Arn films, even read the books. 8)
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A friend of mine supplied all the weapons to the Arn film.
http://www.albion-europe.com/search/model.aspx?model=156
There is a scene in the movie where all the Templars kneel to pray before battle and the camera pans over them showing off pretty much the whole Albion sword product line.
And I was actually an extra in the movie. Unfortunately I could not go to morocco to take part in the battles in the holy land who were actually filmed on the same set as Kingdom of heaven. But I took part in the Scandinavian battles.
Oh and so as to not derail this thread completely. The painting is very good I have long been tempted to do something similar.
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Lovely painting - this looks like it'll be as good as yoru other projects. I will eagerly follow.
Also notch me up as another fan of the Arn books and film. A Swedish friend got me onto them.
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A big thanks to you all for those encouraging words.
And a special thanks to Druzina for those links and references.
Ive seen some of those before but that is some excellent references and Im sure some of them will help me in this project.
Thanks for taking the time to post them.
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12th century Scandinavian warriors:
Wood carvings of the Saga of the Volsungs: The Norse Epic of Sigurd the Dragon Slayer, from the portal of Hylestad stave church, Setesdal, Norway, 12th century (http://warfare.gq/12/Sigurd-Hylestad.htm)
. Sigurd and Regin forge the sword Gram (http://warfare.gq/12/Sigurd_and_Regin_forge_the_sword_Gram.htm)
. Sigurd slays Fafnir the dragon (http://warfare.gq/12/Sigurd_slays_Fafnir_the_dragon.htm)
. Sigurd roasts the heart of the dragon (http://warfare.gq/12/Sigurd_roasts_the_heart_of_the_dragon.htm)
& a Scandinavian Militiaman by Ian Heath based on Sigurd the Dragon Slayer (http://warfare.gq/WRG/Feudal-62-Scandinavian_Militia.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=12212&d=1392628346)
There is also
'Massacre of the Innocents' on the Altar from Broddetorp Parish Church, 12th century, Västergötland, Sweden (http://warfare.gq/12/Broddetorp_altar-detail.htm)
on which Ian Heath based a Scandinavian lamellar corselet (http://warfare.gq/WRG/Feudal-61-Scandinavian_Hirdman-13C.htm), but David Nicolle doesn't think this is a useful source.
Mirror site
Wood carvings of the Saga of the Volsungs: The Norse Epic of Sigurd the Dragon Slayer, from the portal of Hylestad stave church, Setesdal, Norway, 12th century (http://warfare.cf/12/Sigurd-Hylestad.htm)
Druzhina
Illustrations of Scandinavian Costume and Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/Norse.htm)
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Thanks for the links Druzina.
I converted and painted a new small group of mixed infantry. The minatures are mix of diffrents parts and makers.
More pictures at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/10/medieval-infantry-of-folke-jarl.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/10/medieval-infantry-of-folke-jarl.html)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g4q0lMraDyM/Ul20Gwd6TII/AAAAAAAAFjk/G6NMd9yJq6Y/s800/P1000880.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A3lYZ_4PbEo/Ul20HIDN5rI/AAAAAAAAFjo/2_uZEayx4Po/s800/P1000882.JPG)
They are painted with the intension of belonging to the troops of Folke Birgersson, one of the sons of Birger Jarl and belonging to the house of Folkunga.
After the battle of Lena 1208 where his brother Knut Birgersson the current Jarl of Sweden fell, the victorious Erik Knutsson elected him to be his Jarl. An appointment that should be short lived as Folke Birgersson died at the battle of Gestilren 1210.
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`baut time for some new Scandinavians...
Ever since I saw the miniatures from Fireforge Miniatures painted up as Danish Knight I knew I wanted a unit of those, they looked that good. :)
I finally got a small unit of my own. :)
More pictures can be found at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/03/danish-sergeants-heavy-cavalry.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/03/danish-sergeants-heavy-cavalry.html)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-olu5dBdePPs/Ux2hbEy3eAI/AAAAAAAAGZs/4A3e_JmpGsY/s800/P1010460.JPG)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9CPCc0XkSV0/Ux2hfcOYIlI/AAAAAAAAGag/qRc1sgBcjZM/s800/P1010467.JPG)
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Illustrations from Hardenberg's Codex of King Magnus the Law-Mender's Law, Norway, early 14th century (http://warfare.gq/14/Hardenberg.htm)
Including Scandinavian Soldiers on a ship from folio 9v (http://warfare.gq/14/Hardenberg-9v.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=12415&d=1394444318)
Mirror Site
Hardenberg's Codex of King Magnus the Law-Mender's Law, Norway, early 14th century (http://warfare.cf/14/Hardenberg.htm)
Druzhina
Illustrations of Scandinavian Costume and Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/Norse.htm)
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I never did thank you Druzina, thanks.
After that last unit of crusaders I did, I felt the urge to get more westerners. So why not restart my Medieval Scandinavia project again. :D
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/10/medieval-scandinavian-warriors.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/10/medieval-scandinavian-warriors.html)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eu8oax9PtKo/VDPHsZ-LwlI/AAAAAAAAIiY/g-i3Utr3eoA/s800/P1020564.JPG)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x7auxzNK-O8/VDPHssatfDI/AAAAAAAAIic/b4Nw0fuhaQo/s800/P1020565.JPG)
The miniatures are Fireforge Games Sergeants as a base with different bits from plastic Gripping Beast kits.
Now I just need to get some archers, maybe search Ebay for those old plastic Bretonnian archers as a base for conversions?
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Very nice builds, good to see your Swedish project progress !
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A small unboxing of Fireforge Sergeants at arms box for those interested.
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/10/unboxing-fireforge-games-sergeants-at.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/10/unboxing-fireforge-games-sergeants-at.html)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lMEizLYa_w0/VEeEGrLUqFI/AAAAAAAAIpM/XuPKEnrgC0M/s800/P1020617.JPG)
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From a quick glance at the frames, these seem to be a selection of components from various existing sets, remoulded onto sprues in a different combination, and repackaged together with a new name in a shiny new box.
I haven't seen them in the flesh so I can't be sure, but I'd be interested to know if there are any new and original elements in here - and if so, what proportion of the contents they form... I suspect very little if any.
Sorry if my assessment is wrong and I'm being unfair.
But if I'm right and this is just (or for the most part) a repackaging of pre-existing components from other sets, then I would say that's a bit cynical...
I hope I'm wrong (but looking at the pics, I don't think I am... )
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I think you are right on that assessment.
It sure looks like they took parts they allready had and put them all in one package.
A little "boring" but I can see why you whould do so.
And if you whant sergeants on horses with crossbows or spears, now you dont have to get them from the infantry boxes.
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A little "boring" but I can see why you whould do so.
And if you whant sergeants on horses with crossbows or spears, now you dont have to get them from the infantry boxes.
Hmmm. I suppose...
Just seems like a lazy marketing ploy to me... Take bits from all your existing sets, put them together in a new box, call them something else, and sell it as a 'new' set...
As I already have the Templar Knights and Templar infantry boxes, I don't think there are any parts in the Sergeants at Arms box that I don't already have? ::)
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I can only agree.
I wanted Sergeants with spears so I thought I could get this box instead of the other.
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The box set may be useful for those not wanting to buy two boxes, and then mixing and matching - as long as people enter this with their eyes open.
So it's good to have been highlighted here :D
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The box set may be useful for those not wanting to buy two boxes, and then mixing and matching - as long as people enter this with their eyes open.
Agreed.
Think it might have been better if FF had fessed up and said 'look, we've repackaged some of our components so if you want mounted troops with crossbows, spears and caparisoned horses, you don't have to buy two boxes to achieve that'.
Instead, their ads in the wargames press make it look like this is a totally new product - which is a tad disingenuous (:D) to say the least.
If I'd bought this box on the strength of the ad, I'd have been pretty cross to find it contains a whole lot of parts I've already got.
Not really the way to do it...
Still, as you say, for those going in with eyes open, fair enough.
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Agreed, let's hope it was just someone getting a bit carried away on marketing spin ;)
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Hmmm. I suppose...
Just seems like a lazy marketing ploy to me... Take bits from all your existing sets, put them together in a new box, call them something else, and sell it as a 'new' set...
As I already have the Templar Knights and Templar infantry boxes, I don't think there are any parts in the Sergeants at Arms box that I don't already have? ::)
At least on their website they say exactly this. Don't know where else or how else they advertised, but on their website they are crystal clear about what is in the box and why.
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At least on their website they say exactly this. Don't know where else or how else they advertised, but on their website they are crystal clear about what is in the box and why.
Crystal clear? Not on the product page for this set they're not. Maybe somewhere else? ???
And not in their ads in wargaming magazines.
If someone labels something 'NEW!!' then you think you're getting something you haven't seen before. Unlike this set.
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One of my current projects is building an Medieval Scandinavian army and I felt that I needed a way of restricting or guide me into what units I should get for this project. As Hail Caesar is my game of choice when it comes to historical games because of its simplicity to adapt it to all kinds of armies, eras and games, I have made an army list meant to represent an Medieval Scandinavian army.
So there you got the background, I've made this army list to help me choose what units I needed to start collect and paint.
The armylist is inspired from the army list found in "Hail Caesar Army lists II - Late antiquity to early medieval" from Warlord Games that I highly recommend.
I tried to use the same tone of words and unit compositions found there but giving it its own twist or flavour. I have looked mainly at the Feudal Scots, Early Russian and the Feudal German list for inspirations as I find these the most logical to start from. Im no expert in this subject and I am more then welcome ideas on how to adopt or change the list. See this list more as a starting list more then a finished product, a work in progress.
Hopefully I haven't made the list too good or too bad but in balance with the other lists.
This list are mainly meant to represent Denmark, Sweden and Norway. I know the army compositions of these varied but also over time and I tried to have options incorporated in the list to alter these as you see fitting for a certain battle or year.
The term Knight in this list is meant to represent nobles actually knighted and men not knighted but thought in same manners, this is for simplicity.
The term Mercenary could represent the numerous German troops that thought in Scandinavia from time to time or troops recruited locally or from neighbouring Scandinavian countries.
I didnt manage to post it directly hear as the lines got all mashed together so Im afraid you will have to follow this link.
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/10/medieval-scandinavia-hail-caesar-army.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/10/medieval-scandinavia-hail-caesar-army.html)
Please do check it out and tell me your opinion if there are anything you think I should alter.
Thanks.
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Please do check out the proposed Hail Caesar armylist on the previus page and help me evolve it.
I needed a propper commander for my forces.
Many more pictures and a more detail background story at:
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/ebbe-sunesen-hvide-af-knardrup.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/ebbe-sunesen-hvide-af-knardrup.html)
I wanted a commander with a bigger base so it would look impressive on the table, to get the attention.
I have mixed in all kind of bits in the building process, a real fun conversion.
Colourwise I went with the Coat of Arms of the Danish family/clan of Hvide. It sure felt wrong to paint a Dane in blue. o_o
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Hz2UtXCEOc/VFk3kiWki0I/AAAAAAAAIsk/7KOuRomsGLE/s800/P1020679.JPG)
Ebbe Sunesen was a member of the Hvide family and I have chosen to name my miniature after him.
Ebbe Sunesen Hvide af Knarup died at the battle of Lena 1208
Where the Swedish Kings Sverker aided by Danish troops was defeated by Erik Knutsson aided by Norwegian troops.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bmbc_jA4LkE/VFk36tq6EjI/AAAAAAAAIt0/2wd1TJ5pcN4/s800/Hvide.jpg)
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Stunning paint work Jonas !
Might you join our Lion Rampant club project Håtunaleken ?
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Im tempted to join in on your little project.
I think I need to read up on history a little and find me a suitable family or maybe a mercenary captain.
And then study the Lion Rampand rules a little more.
The Håtunaleken could be a nice excuse to get some special minatures. lol
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Go for the House of Hvide, as several Danish houses had estates in Sweden or neare the border (Scanie, Halland, Blekinge) so it should not be a problem.
Might you bring some next time in Stockhokholm. We will start small with just 12 points for each plauer and run multiplayer games. But bring minis for a 24 point Hoast to:)
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Those are excellent - I love the stripes. Very bold :)
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Cor, thats a lovely vignette/mini diorama ;D
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Scandinavian Soldiers of the late 13th and Early 14th Century
Contemporary images showing knights and other soldiers from Norway, Sweden and Denmark.
Effigy of Bjorn Finsson, Trondheim Cathedral, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway, 1280 (http://warfare.gq/13/Effigy-Bjorn_Finsson-Norway.htm)
'Massacre of the Innocents', Dädesjö Church ceiling paintings, Småland, Sweden, late 13th century (http://warfare.gq/13/Dadesjo-5.htm)
St Maurice as a Knight on a Reliquary, Lögon Monastery, Denmark, c.1300 (http://warfare.gq/13/StMaurice-Logon_Reliquary.htm)
Effigy of Nils Jonsson, St Mary's Church, Sigtuna, Uppland, Sweden, 1316 (http://warfare.gq/14/Effigy-Nils_Jonsson-Sweden.htm)
Swedish Knights on wall paintings from the Church at Södra Råda in Sweden, 1323AD (http://warfare.gq/14/Sodra_Rada.htm)
Hardenberg's Codex, Norway, early 14th century (http://warfare.gq/14/Hardenberg.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11259&d=1384486799)
MIRROR SITES
Effigy of Bjorn Finsson, Trondheim Cathedral, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway, 1280 (http://warfare.cf/13/Effigy-Bjorn_Finsson-Norway.htm)
'Massacre of the Innocents', Dädesjö Church ceiling paintings, Småland, Sweden, late 13th century (http://warfare.cf/13/Dadesjo-5.htm)
St Maurice as a Knight on a Reliquary, Lögon Monastery, Denmark, c.1300 (http://warfare.cf/13/StMaurice-Logon_Reliquary.htm)
Effigy of Nils Jonsson, St Mary's Church, Sigtuna, Uppland, Sweden, 1316 (http://warfare.cf/14/Effigy-Nils_Jonsson-Sweden.htm)
Swedish Knights on wall paintings from the Church at Södra Råda in Sweden, 1323AD (http://warfare.cf/14/Sodra_Rada.htm)
Hardenberg's Codex, Norway, early 14th century (http://warfare.cf/14/Hardenberg.htm)
Druzhina
Illustrations of Scandinavian Costume and Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/Norse.htm)
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Thanks guys.
Thanks for the links Druzhina. You sure have a nice collection of references. :D
I thought Ebbe Sunesen Hvide could need some knights.
So bearing the colours of Hvide here are some.
They are Fireforge miniatures but with some extra Gripping Beast bits and some Perry Wotr horses as I was some short.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sSUgq4T3lwA/VGZ157V1jlI/AAAAAAAAIzM/2p0jrnBegWU/s800/P1020689.JPG)
Many more pictures at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/danish-knights.html#comment-form (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/danish-knights.html#comment-form)
And together with the Danish Sergeants I have painted previously they can make up a standard size unit in Hail Caesar.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0iZN8xOnj_Q/VGZ2ACLZmPI/AAAAAAAAI0c/Q4kgoIr3Rqc/s800/P1020699.JPG)
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This army is shaping up nicely. :)
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Thanks.
I just finished a unit of crossbowmen, they are a mix of Fireforge and Gripping Beast plastic miniatures.
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/smalandska-skyttar.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/smalandska-skyttar.html)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kNSji8doWi8/VGtSgFlf-gI/AAAAAAAAI1A/1joh9GpTlaI/s800/P1020702.JPG)
Sorry for the bad pic, the weather is terrible so hard to get a good daylight.
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But they look nice mate! :D
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Looking good !
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Thanks.
Last week I visited Stockholm and I and Dalauppror talked about me trying out the Lion Rampant rules.
So I gathered my forces to see what I have painted. And what do you know, I could muster a 24point host of Danes.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TfvhGwOwvVs/VHMYHCJXlCI/AAAAAAAAI2I/w5-IWWtEVTM/s800/P1020711.JPG)
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/medieval-scandinavia-lion-rampant.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/11/medieval-scandinavia-lion-rampant.html)
My host of Danes from the house of Hvide comprised of:
6 Mounted Men-at-arms *
6 Mounted Men-at-arms
6 Mounted Serjeants
12 Foot Serjeants
12 Crosbowmen
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Great work! This army has been fun to watch grow.
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Call out the Ledung...
My biggest patch paint by far...
After I started converting miniatures it sort of starting to grow.... I wanted to include more and more miniatures and get the right mixtures of arms and equipment.
MANY more pictures at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/12/call-out-leunger.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/12/call-out-leunger.html)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5TGz_XG2wQU/VIWOD0jdThI/AAAAAAAAI7M/ZeDk0ENpYuc/s800/P1020760.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7CypEm5PSIo/VIWOGJfk80I/AAAAAAAAI7g/Obf4OAMWF7M/s800/P1020763.JPG)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JiwSXWykk_E/VIWOO585oqI/AAAAAAAAI9Q/wOkCFZrUzto/s800/P1020777.JPG)
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Nice work on the shields.
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You two are making a sevret ploy to drag me into this wonderful nordic medieval noir!
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Wonderful looking army, great job! 8)
How many warbands or units have you planned to make?
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You two are making a sevret ploy to drag me into this wonderful nordic medieval noir!
Quit fighting it then lol
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Exellent looking units Jonas !!!
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Thanks.
I just finished a new unit of mounted crossbowmen.
The miniatures are from Fireforge games.
I used some of their less armoured infantry arms to get a less armoured feeling then someone riding around with the same equipment as a fully armed knight... And I tossed in some round shields just for the sake of it. :D
By basing some of them individual I can without a problem use them in Lion Rampant besides Hail Caesar that is the main idea.
More pictures at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/12/beridna-skyttar.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/12/beridna-skyttar.html)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H7KI4m-llmU/VI7RFvyj4QI/AAAAAAAAI-c/U496qqpJRFg/s800/P1020791.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QShHSLMHQ3s/VI7RJNv653I/AAAAAAAAI_A/5kCvJENJDgg/s800/P1020796.JPG)
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Looking very good !
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Very nice unit!
Great choice making them less armoured.
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Thanks guys.
Dr. The Viking > Maybe I can tease you further with some new pictures... :D
I thought It was about time to take a new army picture.
Many more pictures of the army at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/12/medieval-scandinavian-army.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2014/12/medieval-scandinavian-army.html)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U7JjGNzl4cw/VJFq9M3UmXI/AAAAAAAAI_0/Gq4WiJpW0JA/s800/P1020810.JPG)
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That's a great looking force, and you've built it really quickly (by my snail-like standards anyway) :)
Well done!
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Thanks Captain.
The speed is all in about cutting corners, trying to skip details that wont be seen on the table. A closer look will show where I have skipped details. I have tried to only use a little more detailing on things that are easily noticed, things like shields or highlighting a face or a hand. And using inks or shades to speed things up.
Its a hard thing to balance the level on detail with the time it takes to paint it. On what level you whant to achieve.
The bonus is an army in a relative short time but the negative things is that no one of them can stand up to a close inspection.
Its a technique I have tried to improve for some time now as I have notet I will never have time to paint all the miniatures of all the settings and games I take a fancy at... :D
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Awe...some!!!
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Oh now you've all gone and done it! I'm tempted to do this in 40mm. I must be nuts... or a wargamer! I watched Arn today, very inspiring stuff!
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The speed is all in about cutting corners [...] Its a technique I have tried to improve for some time now as I have notet I will never have time to paint all the miniatures of all the settings and games I take a fancy at... :D
You should teach me your techinque, it seems :)
Your force looks great, it could win you a kingdom for sure 8)
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Last week I visited Stockholm and managed to play a game with Michael "Dalauppror" and some of his club members.
We used the Lion Rampant rules and the theme was set for a game of "Håtuna leken" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5tuna_games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5tuna_games)) a time on conflict here in Sweden arount the year of 1300 with power strugle for the crown of three brothers.
I was invited to join in on their campaign representing the Danish house of Hvide and was invited to a wedding fiest.
In the last game they played the kings brother Valdemar had been bride robbing and intended to marry the lady him self, a furries King had sent nobles from the house of Ulvåsa and Oxenstierna to crash the wedding.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w_8Wy7rIFJA/VMVkmJTcB2I/AAAAAAAAJVc/ZBpWAf59y8c/s800/P1030018.JPG)
Here is the link for the AAR: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/01/the-wedding-crash-hatunaleken-aar.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/01/the-wedding-crash-hatunaleken-aar.html)
Some of you might allready have seen Michaels AAR here on LAF so this is from the angle of the Danes.
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Exciting report and a lovely photo. Really like the church being thatched in the background - great idea.
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Epic gaming!!!!!
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Epic gaming!!!!!
You know you want too!
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Stop fighting it... :D
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Stop fighting it... :D
Only thing stopping me presently is that Dr. zombie went for perry plastics and I was more keen on earlier stuff.
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Great stuff 8)
Only thing stopping me presently is that Dr. zombie went for perry plastics and I was more keen on earlier stuff.
Get both then :D
cheers
James
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Greate AAR Jonas and very nice that you hounds My club campaign, i hope that we can get more games in during the comming month.
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Only thing stopping me presently is that Dr. zombie went for perry plastics and I was more keen on earlier stuff.
Use your Normans :)
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I have now painted a unit of dismounted Knights for my collection.
They are intended to belonging to the house of Folkunga/ Bjälbo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bjelbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bjelbo)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sYu1aIG6wsg/VOJgekDdePI/AAAAAAAAJoA/zDKM5bgdpnA/s800/P1030147.JPG)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2EJgjCxxqrc/VOJgfweoXMI/AAAAAAAAJoM/m0RThMBMyTE/s800/P1030149.JPG)
Many more pictures and a bit more information for those interested at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/02/fralse-till-fots.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/02/fralse-till-fots.html)
I intend to use the rules for dismounted knights and the ideas about mixing dismounted knights into medium infantry to stiffen them up from the Feudal Scottish list which I find most appropriate for the type of warfare of an Medieval Scandinavian army.
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Great project!
A question on the Conquest Normans:
How do you think they are, compared to GB and FF sculpts (poses and details)?
I have not had any of them in my hands, yet, but from pics they seem a bit below par (soft details, undynamic poses)?. Even cheaper than GB, but I am hesitating to get some for my early medieval needs.... (and the Conquest webstore is driving me nuts (just saying)!)
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Frankly I dont like them...
The poses are rather boring and the textiles or clothes dont look real, something how they "flow in the wind" or rather the lack of it.
The heads and arms dont attach the way Fireforge and Gripping beast do so to mix the kits takes more effort.
The horses looks rather bad to, especially the heads... It looks like someone took a frying pan and flatten them...
They can be made to look okay with some extra greenstuff or how you paint them but they are below FF and GB in value.
But as I said, with some work you can get decent miniatures out of them and they fill a roll as an early medieval option.
I have used the cavalry with other heads, shields and extra greenstuff as Saracen cavalry in my crusader project and I think it works.
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Thanks, your reply confirms my reservations. I don't think they are for me, although I would like an army of Normans. Well, maybe GB (or someone else) brings out some nicer sets at some point....
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Stop it!
RIght now! lol
Brilliant! :-*
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Specially addressed to Dr. The Viking... ;) You know you want to...
A new small unit of heavy infantry belonging to the House of Folkunga/ Bjälbo.
Many more pictures and more info for those interested at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/03/tungt-infanteri.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/03/tungt-infanteri.html)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4ggQvK7Y8Po/VPWh1y_CSTI/AAAAAAAAJuE/NzzA64JnE4c/s800/P1030194.JPG)
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Looking good !!!
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Nice rugged infantry!
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Scandinavian Soldiers of the late 13th and Early 14th Century
Contemporary images showing knights and other soldiers from Norway, Sweden and Denmark.
Effigy of Bjorn Finsson, Trondheim Cathedral, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway, 1280 (http://warfare.gq/13/Effigy-Bjorn_Finsson-Norway.htm)
'Massacre of the Innocents', Dädesjö Church ceiling paintings, Småland, Sweden, late 13th century (http://warfare.gq/13/Dadesjo-5.htm)
St Maurice as a Knight on a Reliquary, Lögon Monastery, Denmark, c.1300 (http://warfare.gq/13/StMaurice-Logon_Reliquary.htm)
Effigy of Nils Jonsson, St Mary's Church, Sigtuna, Uppland, Sweden, 1316 (http://warfare.gq/14/Effigy-Nils_Jonsson-Sweden.htm)
Swedish Knights on wall paintings from the Church at Södra Råda in Sweden, 1323AD (http://warfare.gq/14/Sodra_Rada.htm)
Hardenberg's Codex, Norway, early 14th century (http://warfare.gq/14/Hardenberg.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11259&d=1384486799)
MIRROR SITES
Effigy of Bjorn Finsson, Trondheim Cathedral, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway, 1280 (http://warfare.cf/13/Effigy-Bjorn_Finsson-Norway.htm)
'Massacre of the Innocents', Dädesjö Church ceiling paintings, Småland, Sweden, late 13th century (http://warfare.cf/13/Dadesjo-5.htm)
St Maurice as a Knight on a Reliquary, Lögon Monastery, Denmark, c.1300 (http://warfare.cf/13/StMaurice-Logon_Reliquary.htm)
Effigy of Nils Jonsson, St Mary's Church, Sigtuna, Uppland, Sweden, 1316 (http://warfare.cf/14/Effigy-Nils_Jonsson-Sweden.htm)
Swedish Knights on wall paintings from the Church at Södra Råda in Sweden, 1323AD (http://warfare.cf/14/Sodra_Rada.htm)
Hardenberg's Codex, Norway, early 14th century (http://warfare.cf/14/Hardenberg.htm)
Druzhina
Illustrations of Scandinavian Costume and Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/Norse.htm)
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I just wanted to include a unit of German knights in this project. :D
I might have gotten a bit carried away with all those helmets, colours and heraldry but I just couldnt help my self.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-G_68Ja_1ewo/VUZoCsMry5I/AAAAAAAAKEw/8JM_RB6EBJw/s800/P1030444.JPG)
Many more pictures at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/05/german-knights.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/05/german-knights.html)
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Nice 8) 8) 8)
Darrell.
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Very nice indeed !
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Very, very nice!
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I painted the other half of that German unit.
Many more pictures at: http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/08/german-knights.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2015/08/german-knights.html)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v5Lc_W8Qabk/Vdoo9LISyrI/AAAAAAAAKqw/uuOQT3QYV9o/s800/P1030823.JPG)
And combined they will make a standard sized unit that looks like this. :D
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d_UOSIbmOtQ/VdopBEngT7I/AAAAAAAAKro/pqhQrMOxWpo/s800/P1030833.JPG)
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Splendid :)
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Only just seen these, amazing are there any more photos?
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These are lovely and its a pleasure to see a change from the usual European heraldry. Nicely executed and well presented.
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I made an inventory of my Medieval collection for an coming game, thought I could share it with you to.
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2016/06/medieval-army-inventory.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2016/06/medieval-army-inventory.html)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wXG8HbPavPE/V2HPvZixh7I/AAAAAAAAMKk/aBXrtsTKwrkYBcEHCEVZVtzkwdxW05u2gCLcB/s800/P1040320.JPG)
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:-* :-* :-*
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Beautiful work, what a lovely mass of steel! :-*
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Hey.... I got a thread here...
Lets update it...
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2018/11/riddare-fran-eriksatten.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2018/11/riddare-fran-eriksatten.html)
A small unit of knights belonging to the House of Erik.
For this unit I went with blue with white lion as the main colours.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p5c0-buoIig/W-VLNWsjM3I/AAAAAAAAQ8Q/4zfcL7jYkKgBXWYlq87rCV7XUgdo5K_uQCLcBGAs/s800/20181109_082713.jpg)
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A unit of knights belonging to the House of Sverker.
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2018/11/riddare-fran-sverkeratten.html (http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2018/11/riddare-fran-sverkeratten.html)
The historical records about the House of Sverker is a little vague but I went with the main theme of blue background with a red star with white trimming and a yellow lindworm.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OauGm13H_j8/W-gp-Dji3MI/AAAAAAAAQ-A/5bP5JuzDywIf1eUIwngFketfjeUeXnf0QCLcBGAs/s800/20181111_130631.jpg)
Both these and the knights from the House of Erik is straight out of the box Conquest Games plastics knights.
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Bright and yet also gritty - nice painting.
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(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ybVjFGgu7fM/XTVn3gRQJJI/AAAAAAAASPw/n4o6SrU5PC8kXaPm0ydzxYMYNQtWX5KegCLcBGAs/s800/P1070719.JPG)
https://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2019/07/bagskyttar-tillhorandes-eriksatten.html (https://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2019/07/bagskyttar-tillhorandes-eriksatten.html)
Many more pictures in the link.
I finished a some archers indented to belong to the House of Eric, the plan is to one day have enough miniatures to properly set up the battle of Lena 1208 or some of the other battles in that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lena (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lena)
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Nice painting and flag.
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A really nice looking army you have. Very inspirational for me, as I am about to embark on a similar track.
MGK
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Great to see you back at this project Engel .
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Im slowly working to finish of some half painted units.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3tuNFG3u6WY/XbcQzjAvBtI/AAAAAAAATFk/HcpEUSdalYMAGotP_UkNUyuZfWQ76mQngCNcBGAsYHQ/s640/20191028_165247.jpg)
More pictures @ https://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2019/10/sverkerattens-krigsman.html (https://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2019/10/sverkerattens-krigsman.html)
Here we have a small group of warriors belonging to the House of Sverker to my slooooowly growing medieval Scandinavian project.
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(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SkeFfyh5WAU/Xhz0BTUySNI/AAAAAAAATeU/39iHFHze6NA930mka3qtW1HLolAodu0RQCNcBGAsYHQ/s800/20200112_130553.jpg)
More pictures @ https://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2020/01/fralse-fran-erikska-atten.html (https://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.com/2020/01/fralse-fran-erikska-atten.html)
Here we have some "Frälse" from the House of Erik, somewhat simmular to the word knights.
They are intended to be used in my Medieval Scandinavian project but could easily be used in other medieval projects.
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Though mostly from an earlier date this may serve as inspiration:
Available, as usual, from here:
https://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/mw-issue-ix-6.html
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They look suitably noble.
Very nice! 8) 8) 8)