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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Cold War Reference Repository => Topic started by: Arlequín on November 02, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
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Following a similar topic on the Interwar Board, it was suggested that one be set up for Cold War Vehicles on this board.
The purpose is to identify vehicles which are currently not produced for this period by any manufacturer, but that we would like to see made and be prepared to buy if they were. As we have the odd 'resin baron' amongst the membership, it also helps them determine what people are wanting. No promises obviously, but you never know!
Brief Rules:
1) It has to be a real vehicle, not necessarily anything more than a prototype, but there do have to be photos and/or plans etc. for someone to work off. It would be great if you could actually include a photo along with your suggestion too.
2) It can be any scale, but clearly identify which scale you are interested in. If you don't I'll assume you want 1/56th, like any right thinking person would. ;)
3) Try and include a small amount of description (made by, wars used in etc). It helps people research the vehicle if they choose to have a go at it.
4) It must not already be in production in the scale requested. Mistakes are inevitable though, so where there is one available to buy, I'll edit the post to indicate this. If a suggestion is posted and you know where there is one available, don't hesitate to point this out!
You can vote for more than one... all of them in fact, but I'd respectively ask that you only vote if you would actually be prepared to buy one in the event it was made. That makes it much fairer all round and of course makes this somewhat useful to manufacturers.
I'll try and keep on top of additions and deletions as appropriate... but I might have to set a limit of entries on the poll at some point if it gets too unwieldy.
'Cold War' was the option suggested, but I am happy to set one up for 1990 onwards if anyone wants that.
I've set the ball rolling with some of mine, let's hear yours!
:)
*Edit* As new items are added, you will have to 'remove vote' and vote for your choices all over again, if you want to select newer additions. A bit klunky I'm afraid, but I can't do anything about that, sorry.
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I'd like to see the following
EE-11 Urutu APC and the associated EE-9 Cascavel armoured car. These were big exports for Brazil in the 1970s and '80s and saw a lot of use across the region andi indeed the globe. Iraq was a big user of the Urutu and they saw service in the Iran-Iraq and Gulf War(s). Colombia is still using them on active operations as is the Brazilian Marine Corps. Any scale with 1/50 or 1/56 as my preferences.
M-59 APC Cos everyone who wants a classic Cold War ride needs one. You want retro Mars Attacks? You want one of these.
Type 62. Basically a mini-me scaled down version of the T-59, the Chinese copy of the T-54. Saw quite a lot of export, Tanznia, Albania etc and were extensively used by the Chinese against Vietnam in 1979. Actually if someone would produce a 1/64 scale T-54 it would do the trick nicely.
Type 63. The Chinese 85mm gun armed version of the PT-76. Groovy bowl shaped turret and saw a lot of service around the globe.
T-62 . Yes, the classic 1960s Soviet MBT. Nothing currently in production in 1/50 or 1/56 although there is a fairly pricey 1/48 version in resin from Gasoline. I want the version with the horseshoe armour for Afghanistan. Rumour has it there might be a new and fairly extensive range of 28mm Soviet troops for the Afghan War coming out in the not too distant future so this mightbe the perfect time. ;)
1/56 Gaz-69. Actually any scale would do. Russia's answer to the jeep and no bugger produces one. The pram version with Swatter ATGMs would be wonderful.
1/56 early model Land Rovers, Series I, II and 3. Yes they do exist but so far you have only the Commando Miniatures Series I and a 1/50 ish TAG Series IIA that's seems to be based on the Pink Panther version with which you get wheels and no spare. I have seen a Shapeways 1/55 Series III but it's hideously expensive. Given how ubiquitous the Landy is/was, it's frankly amazing nobody produces more.
A big hulking piece of resin with a big gun. I'd happily take a Conqueror, an M103 or a T-10M. Monster tanks are cool in any period but unlike paper panzers these all saw service and were built in respectable numbers.
Oh and I still want a Panhard EBR VTT for my Portuguese :)
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I've moved the m41Walker bulldog ahead in our model que to be next for our 3D experts. Now, even though I'll have the printed master in a month, we still need folks that want it so I can put it into production.
T-62. I wanted to do one after the BTR 50 is out. Hey guys, buy out all the BTR's when they are released and fund the new kits :)
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Done. I'll take three if you can wait until Feb.
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Ok, I have an M-41 but I'll buy another. Remote chance you would release the necessary bits to modify one to the upgraded Brazilian version? Needs a new gun (90mm) some side panniers for the turret and a new engine deck. I have a number of photos on my laptop if you are interested. Happy to take more if need be. Don't need much of an excuse to go to Conde de Linhares again, it's handy to a favourite lunching spot.
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S-tank even though I think sales might be limited on that one ;)
Also the AMX 30 popular around the Med and into the middle east gulf region, so lots of potential for flashpoint what ifs.
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Okay, I originally voted for my fave five but then (like almost all war gamers I voted before I fully read the OP) I realized that since (except for filling out some OOP lines from the 1970s) everything I am buying now and in the future has to be between - inclusive - 3 and 15 mm I would be providing a false input... Oops.
So I removed my vote. Fun poll, though. I would be curious to see what comes of it (total votes and models actually produced and sold in volume.)
Gracias,
Glenn
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Glenn, it's not just for 28mm, I'll happily put any scale up, just so long as it is not already in production somewhere... we don't operate 'apart-height' (see what I did there?) on this board, unless it's for convenience. If a thread for, say 20mm, or even 15mm is required, rather than putting them up on this one, I'm happy to do that too.
;)
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On a separate note, the only thing the poll doesn't reflect is quantities required. Speaking for myself, I will probably only want one, perhaps two of any 'Tank', somewhat more in the case of APCs and trucks, but as many as 4-6 'Jeep-sized' items.
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Glenn,
I'm confused. You're not interested in 28mm compatible vehicles? Almost every other post of yours that I have read suggests the opposite. Why the sudden about face?
;)
Im usually up for a platoon's worth of anything so an average of three or four of anything that gets made.
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Glenn,
I'm confused. You're not interested in 28mm compatible vehicles? Almost every other post of yours that I have read suggests the opposite. Why the sudden about face?
;)
Im usually up for a platoon's worth of anything so an average of three or four of anything that gets made.
lol
Two words (present) Space and (future) retirement. lol Assuming I live long enough to retire... :) Sometimes 196, much less 200, seems so far away... o_o
As as for being interested, I am interested (ooh, shiny,) but if the goal of the poll is to gauge buying then it would be misleading for me to check off vehicles in 1/56th scale. ;)
If I could find Soldados and Presidials in 15 mm then I could convert all my 25+stuff (1700s New Spain, SAW, VSF, Gothic Horror, Supers, Science Fiction, Zorro,) except myextensive Fantasy Dwarfs*/Goblins armies to a less space intensive scale.
Gracias,
Glenn
* - http://grammarist.com/usage/dwarfs-dwarves/
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The wonders of technology mean that 3D files can be rescaled. in fact, if models are wanted at several scales, that's even better, since the master costs for the CAD can be split. For example, a popular mold company that does some 15mm moderns will be coming out with our BTR-152 in 15mm for his line up.
If we make money off the CAD, it all goes into the 1/56 production line. So selling only 4-5 of something over a year can be greatly offset if the preliminary work is already in the black.
We do share with folks what we build in CAD. It helps everyone all around!
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And I just got a bite for the 15mm version of the M41 and it's variants. That master is paid for for 1/56, 20mm and 15mm!
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The 20mm one should prove popular, other than the Hobby Boss (?) diecast they are thin on the ground.
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Would like to see some others in this scale, and don't really know what's currently available, but Cold War Europe would be nice, e.g.:
M60A1
M113
M551
Leopard 1
Leopard 1 - with bolt-on turret armor, like on the 1A1, 1A1A1, or 1A5
Marder 1 IFV
Marder 1A2 IFV
Luchs
Chieftian
FV432
Scorpion
Scimitar
T72
BMP1
BRDM2
BRDM2 - A/T missile launcher - various types
BTR-60PB
BTR-70
BTR-80A
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Very nice this Wishlist so here's my contribution. Not very surprisingly it has to do with trucks. In total three of them; GAZ-51, ZIL-151 and STAR-66. 8)
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Consider them added! :)
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Consider them added! :)
Well thank you Arlequin. But where is this all going. Is there a interested manufacturer looking over your shoulder?
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Well I know of at least one who pops by from time to time, but otherwise it is what it is, just a wish list... ;)
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Curiously enough it's the candidate with currently the most votes that is going into production. What bearing this poll had, I have no idea.
Can we have a Cold War minis poll too please?
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Curiously enough it's the candidate with currently the most votes that is going into production. What bearing this poll had, I have no idea.
Can we have a Cold War minis poll too please?
Put me down for Korean war Americans, U.N. ROK and North Korean troops then :)
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Put me down for Korean war Americans, U.N. ROK and North Korean troops then :)
Hey! You're the designated heavy lifter for those Korean War GIs. We are just your impatient future customers. :)
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Long term goal ;)
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Curiously enough it's the candidate with currently the most votes that is going into production. What bearing this poll had, I have no idea.
Too be fair I think that was almost on the cards when this started.
Can we have a Cold War minis poll too please?
My heart is telling "Hell Yeah!" but my rational side is wondering how many stickies it takes to fill the first page of the board... call it three votes for, with myself included and if it gets to ten we'll do it.
:)
Put me down for Korean war Americans, U.N. ROK and North Korean troops then :)
Hey! You're the designated heavy lifter for those Korean War GIs. We are just your impatient future customers. :)
I remember that too! ;)
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This poll is great for me, as it serves several purposes.
What do people game with, and what is tentative initial demand?
Our experience, is that folks say they really want something..but when you release it, you sell maybe 3 kits...and the resources you put into those three sales would of been better spent stocking something that your now out of.
For example, I have masters in my hand of several unavailable Cold War 1/56 models and none of which are on that list! So they will remain shelved until demand makes them more relevant. (one will see release soon after the current wave..see the forums!)
If something hits about 10 units desired, the additional wholesale sales, plus the new release factor makes it worthwhile. Or at least I won't lose any money doing it!
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As you'd previously mentioned the BTR-40 and BTR-152 they were assumed to be in the metaphorical production queue, so don't appear on the list, if those are the vehicles you're thinking of... while if memory serves me, the M41 was not at that time. I could be wrong.
;)
Unfortunately the poll only indicates individual members interested in a vehicle and not the numbers they would buy of each item.
Using myself as a possible 'typical gamer' (note I did not say normal ;) ), I would typically buy enough APCs to lift a platoon, so that's 2-4 of each APC I decided to buy, depending on the particular force I'm building (so say 4 M59 for a U.S. Platoon, 2/3 BTR-60P for a Soviet-type one, but only 1 EBR-VTT for a Portuguese cavalry platoon). Likewise each truck or jeep-type vehicle I wanted, would see me buy at least 2 of them, in some cases 4, or even 6 in a few cases. Armoured cars I'd generally buy in pairs, as that's usually the smallest tactical unit for them.
Tanks are not so useful to me, but if I actually bought any, it would be two for a Western-type 'section', or I might go for a full Warpac-type 'platoon' of three vehicles... but they would have to be so common an item 'in the field', that I could justify my getting them, otherwise I wouldn't buy any at all. On the list above I'd buy 2 M-47, 2 M-41 (and probably 2 more at a later date), 2 M56 and maybe 3 Type 62, but that's about it.
I'm a somewhat obsessive completist, so my platoons have to have the full complement of vehicles (even if I can't run to buying them all at once), others I know just go for more sensible complements of one or two of each type. Some people just love tanks and don't bother with anything else... wrapping it all together though, I would think that for each vote for an item, you are more than likely to sell two actual models on LAF alone.
Correct me if I'm wrong guys. :)
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No you'e absolutely right. I will buy the minimum tactical entity. The M-41, I'd take one now as I have no immediare gaming need but as it's the fiftieth anniversary of the coup, I fancy having one as an (affordable) display model.
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The BTR-152 and BTR-40 are in production now. The BTR-50 is also in production with our UK partner.
I do have others :)
But more on that later...
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I'd definitely be interested in a M53 Praga AA truck. Preferably in 1/48th scale, but I would still buy it if it was 1/56th ;D
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I do have others :)
But more on that later...
I'm happy to take them on board as suggestions, as in "Brent suggests you buy some". :D
I'd definitely be interested in a M53 Praga AA truck. Preferably in 1/48th scale, but I would still buy it if it was 1/56th ;D
VLD you may be the only person still gaming with 1/48th... but consider it added. ;)
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All lies - I can think of two other blogs which have been gaming in 1/48th in the last year ;) But I whole heartedly agree that I am definitely a fringe scale. lol
Thanks for adding it anyway, and as I said , I'd happily buy a 1/56th one and make do...
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Too be honest, I've never understood why '28mm' and not 1/48th? When you think of the relative wealth of die-cast stuff (in 1/43 or thereabouts) and plastic kits... making figures for that would have been way more sensible. A tad more in the way of cost per figure, but as I recall, those HLBSC figures were quite something in comparison to most 28mm figures of the time.
:)
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Come back in five years time and scale creep will have done the job for you, HLBSC were just ahead of the curve. Admittedly the hobby is currently going through a phase of smaller and more proportionate figures but I doubt it will last. Pity HLBSC folded their tent, moderns wise as they were good looking sculpts but then with moderns the figures date rapidly and IIRC those figures weren't cheap and they had limited poses.
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When the HLBS figures first came out, the only real competitors in the modern market were the TAG 'us infantry' ( the blocky 'lego men' style ones), MoFo from gripping beast and the Brittania Mogadishu range. None of them particularly compatible in style or in some cases theme.
So I think going 40mm for their range was a gamble, based on the way everyone at the time was looking at 1/48th as the next big thing (Graven Images 40mm all sorts, Perry 40mm Napoleonics, North Star WW2, etc) and nowhere near the competition from 28mm that there is now.
I remember the figures being strikingly detailed in comprison to most things on the market, but also not cheap. Interestingly, even after a price rise, the figures were still only £1.50-2.00 which is similar to Empress and TAG these days. Heck, in my recent attempts to track figures down most models have been far cheaper than most 28mm stuff. Although some 1/43rd die cast vehicles can be a bit pricey, they are usually cheaper than 1/56th resin models.
I was chatting to Richard at HLBS, and they are planning to release an ultra modern range in 1/48th later this year. It has apparently been delayed by using 3d printing to do the weapon masters. So there is hope from my perspective ;-) It will be interesting to see how it sales against the like of Emperess, as despite my love of the scale I wouldn't put out a new range with all the 28mm competition...
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A bit VHS vs Betamax in a way (or so older people tell me ;) ). I'm not sure I'd risk them now to be honest. As Carlos says though, with some of the ranges out there well into being 30mm+ territory, it might not be long before a few people are gaming in 1/48th, although still calling it 28mm. Once a figure gets to 35mm 'foot to eye', he's 6'-ish in real terms (foot to top of head) in 1/48th scale.
There's one or two vehicle ranges as it is which look ridiculously small against some figures.
I do remember being impressed with them though, but as you say, the competition was somewhat smaller.
I think if it was me, I'd be looking at something less competitive than ultra modern, maybe something nobody else does and for which there are exploitable sources for vehicles. What that would be is beyond me though.
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Agreed. The advantage to doing 40mm, 1/48 is that it would work better with 1/43 diecasts and 1/48 plastic kits. Aside from SWAT or Police type scenarios where, conceivably, you might want a few diecast cars, there doesn't seem much point for moderns. Leaving aside, quite expensive resin and multimedia kits from Gasoline, Propaganda Kompany and the like, most of the modern stuff available is fairly dated and the only really affordable stuff comes from fairly indifferent kits by the like of Academy, Zhengdu etc. Really modern plastic kits in 1/48 are actually fairly rare. A HMMV from Tamiya and two or three modern types from Airfix. Whilst 1/48 is an increasingly popular scale for WW2 era modellers, I have seen very little on the horizon for moderns.
I suppose if you wanted to tap into the (expensive) range of Russian and Chinese 1/43 diecasts there might be a market.
I have a number of nominally 1/48 scale models and most work reasonably well with 28mm. What I really would appreciate would be a better selection of civilian cars in a consistent scale, anywhere from 1/56 to 1/50 would suit me. 1/43 really is just too big. Ideally popular British and European models of the 1960s. Given how popular things like 7TV and Kiss, Kiss Bang , Bang seem to be, it might be commercially viable. HLBSC are known for their sense of whimsy, maybe they are the chaps to carry it off.
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ok, scratch off the Unimog from the list. Should be out and available in Sept, right alongside the M41 Walker Bulldog, BTR-152 and BTR-40
(http://035f399.netsolhost.com/Mercedes_unimog.jpg)
-Brent
Company B
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Sweet!
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ok, scratch off the Unimog from the list. Should be out and available in Sept, right alongside the M41 Walker Bulldog, BTR-152 and BTR-40
(http://035f399.netsolhost.com/Mercedes_unimog.jpg)
-Brent
Company B
How did you know my birthday is in September?
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Okay list updated for the Unimog & M41 Walker Bulldog. :)
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Add the Panard AML 60, AML 90, and Landrover Series III to the list. All currently being hand sculpted for us...
Brent
Company B
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Theoretically these exist elsewhere, but as Force on Force have been quiet for a time, it's good to hear alternatives are on the horizon though and look forwards to seeing them completed and for sale. I'll start saving...
:)
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Sometimes our sculptors just do stuff (me included...) and it ends up getting produced. But these should fit in well with the other stuff we are doing.
Who am I to complain!
-Brent
Company B
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- Patria Sisu/Patria Pasi in 1/48, the early version, so XA-200 excluded.
This would be perfect for Cold War ear peacekeeping scenarios and such, used by many nations.
- BMP variants in 1/48
That's about it :)
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Added. :)
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BMP-2D and T-62-D, the add on armour packages for the Afghan War. Anything from 1/56 to 1/50 would do the trick.
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Added. :)
Cheers mate! :)
Also would like to see 1/48 scale M113.
I prefer 1/48 scale as based minis look ok next to vehicles of that scale. Smaller scale vehicles should be based, IMHO, too but I don't like to base vehicles :)
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does any one make a BTR-82? :D
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does any one make a BTR-82? :D
Empress make a BTR-80A which is essentially the same vehicle and externally speaking almost identical.
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Cheers mate! :)
Also would like to see 1/48 scale M113.
I prefer 1/48 scale as based minis look ok next to vehicles of that scale. Smaller scale vehicles should be based, IMHO, too but I don't like to base vehicles :)
Empress make a 1/50th scale M113 which should work as 1/48th is slightly too big.
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Empress make a BTR-80A which is essentially the same vehicle and externally speaking almost identical.
Thanks Carlos ;)
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I have several of the Empress M113 - they are great kits and also make great conversion fodder using the hammerhead from the zhengdefu LAV TOW (ITV and FIST-V).
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While we're discussing wants - no one makes the Spah-Panzer Luchs or the TPZ FUCHS in 28mm (1:48 or 1:56). For the Russians an ASU-85 would be nice as well (1:48 or 1:56).
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The early marks of the M48/M48A1 would be great.
An M-47 with German style smoke projectors as an accessory would really be handy, as well as early T-54/T-55's.
Pretty much anything NATO/Warsaw pact from the 50's and 60's would be welcome on my table.
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Oh and I really want the TOW and Mortar version of the Stryker and the new 30mm cannon variant. :D
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A Tow or Mortar version of the Stryker would be good...Are you listening Empress?
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The early marks of the M48/M48A1 would be great.
An M-47 with German style smoke projectors as an accessory would really be handy, as well as early T-54/T-55's.
Pretty much anything NATO/Warsaw pact from the 50's and 60's would be welcome on my table.
Look at the Solido M-47. Tracks aside it's a reasonably well detailed model. Adding smoke dischargers, grab rails etc, isn't a hard task with plastic rod and brass wire.
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Carlos is spot on - the Solidos are very modifiable -I used plasticard and green stuff to turn a couple of Solido Leopard 1's into Leopard 1A3 and 1A5.
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I saw a bunch of them on ebay.
The tracks are really wonky, but they do have some really interesting tanks in the product line.
Are they a true 1/50 scale, or a more fit the box 1/50 scale?
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1/50 for the AFV. You need to be careful with some of the smaller soft skins which are 1/43. That's pretty much only the jeep type vehicles and they are usually labelled as such. I have both Solido and Verem Dodge Weapon Carriers and they are perfect for size and beautifully detailed little models. From memory their Grant/Lee tanks is meant to be over-scale but all the stuff I have works well with 28.
Tracks are replaceable but it's amazing how much better they look if you just give them a simple spray coat of gun metal.
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Just a reminder - ask for the ASU85....it's kind of hard to do scenarios from Harvey Black's THE RED EFFECT, BLACK EFFECT, BLUE EFFECT series without them :D
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Added the most recent suggestions, including the Stryker as it just barely slips outside the '2000' date.
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FYI- Company B already has the Stryker ICV and MGS versions available and has for years. These two are literally the most detail modes we've even made/produced.
(http://035f399.netsolhost.com/StrykerLH_small.jpg)
(http://035f399.netsolhost.com/Sryker_MGS_sm.jpg)
Doing additional update/conversion sets for them is something we could look at if folks really wanted them..
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I was suggesting the mortars and TOW versions.
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Should probably do an update.
A Series III land Rover is available from Akula.
1/48 BMP-1 and BMP -2 are also available from HLBS
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Akula's Land Rover is really nice. I got 2 of them recently.
Should probably do an update.
A Series III land Rover is available from Akula.
1/48 BMP-1 and BMP -2 are also available from HLBS
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Updated... :)
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Does any one make any Leclerc's or Leo 2s for 28mm? Or even some VBC-90s?
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Siku (german Company) offers a Leo 2A6 in 1/50
http://www.e-shop-direct.com/eshop/siku/militaer-1053/kampfpanzer-5815/
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Not bad at all. :D
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Empress does the BMP3 in 1:50
Sloppy Jalopy does the BMP1 and BMP 2 in 1:56. I think they also do the GAZ in 1:56 as well.
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Does anyone know of source for a 1/56 or 1/60 scale M551 Sheridan?
I'd love to have a few to put on the table next to my M41 Bulldogs.
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Company B do the Sheridan
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Thanks!
I didn't see it anywhere on their website, but I'll go look again.
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Where is the T72?. With and without reactive armor. Is in all the conflicts. It will be an iconic tank for the future wargamers. The Leopard 2 and his next variants, 2A5.
T62 , amx30 are very interesting tanks too for hipotetic cold war central europe conflict. Eureka minitures has a very nice collection of soldiers to use into a cold war, french, germans, soviets, usa. We need vehicles and plastic miniatures ;D
Congratulations to Company B, the modern vehicle collection is fantastic. I have a few for my 80´s soviets and vietnam war.
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Of course, all the vehicles 1/56 scale. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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1:56 is good but 1:48 to 1:50 need love too :D
Also, the post on the Canadians in 20mm identifies the need for a 1:56 to 1:48th M113 Recce to do FIRST CLASH (Go 4 CMBG)!
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Now that UNDERR FIRE is releasing its Bundeswehr we have an even better reason to add to the German vehicle range. Get those votes in for the Spahpanzer Luchs lol
Also, has anyone consider the Jadgpanzer Jaguar I or Jaguar II? I built one using a Tamiya Jagdpanzer Kanone as a base but it would have been nice to avoid the sculpting, filing, puttying....
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I'm currently reading Danger Close, 3 Para in Afghanistan, where there is mention of Engineer vehicles being used to fill HESCOs in a District Centre to create better fortifications than just concrete and mud brick walls. Does anyone know what vehicles the Brit Sappers and US Engineers use to dig, move, fill in this theatre?
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Hey, I went through the list again and it dawned on me - we're missing an iconic APC in use in the Gulf War and elsewhere in Africa. We need the Chinese Type 89 (BMP 1 knockoff with 12.7mm Hmg ACAV like cupola) and the Type 63. These are also still in use today all over the world...
I am thinking either 1:56 or 1:48 scale (considering I use 1:50 Imprint Armor 1:48 is better :))
Thoughts?
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I like Italeri's 1/72 scale vehicle series dedicated for gamers; fast assembly models, but at the moment it covers WWII.
It would be great to have fast assembly 1/72 modern vehicles like US and Soviet (Russian) tanks, APC's and trucks.
Most modelling manufacturers has modern 1/72 vehicles in their range but its designated rather for fine scale modellers ( models with over 100 pcs).
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Some things to add to the list.
the CV-90. Seems to be the new go to light non-tank/APC for most of NATO at the moment.
Would also like to see it with different weapons load outs because not all of them are armed with the same main guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Vehicle_90
And the Turret less Bradley. Which is slated to replace the m113.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/turretless_bradley.htm
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Anyone know if someone makes any 10mm or 1/144 M48A3 and especially A5?
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Pendraken do the A3
(http://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/3051/VV5.jpg)
http://pendraken.co.uk/post-war/vietnam/vehicles/
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Old thread I know but it is stickied!
After the Object 279 I'm lacking inspiration for my next build...
I've got the Panhard EBR to finish, it looks like I need the AMX-13 turret too.
After that I'm tempted by the S-Tank... but I'm unsure. Inspire me! 8)
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After the Object 279 I'm lacking inspiration for my next build...
Oooh Kotin!
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Oooh Kotin!
Keep up at the back ;)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=106263.0
The S-Tnak is currently winning. I'm wondering about a Bolt Action force using one as a STuG.
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Old thread I know but it is stickied!
After the Object 279 I'm lacking inspiration for my next build...
I've got the Panhard EBR to finish, it looks like I need the AMX-13 turret too.
After that I'm tempted by the S-Tank... but I'm unsure. Inspire me! 8)
If there was a range of 28mm Cold War Swedes I’d be as keen as mustard for an S-Tank but in their absence...... not so much and I did try and curry support for such a range a year or two back.
Dull it might be but I’d quite like an early-ish T-64 for my Russians and a proper T-62 with the add on armour for Afghanistan. A Hornet with Malkara would be nice and I could use Chinese Cold War Armour. Type 62, Type 63 and especially a Type 63/ YW 531 APC . The APC is cute and they exported a lot of them.
Now whilst this is arguably the wrong board, if you fancy a challenge my pre-War Czechoslovakian army would dearly love a PA II ‘Turtle’ armoured car. That would be an interesting modelling challenge for you.
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The S Tank's maybe not the most viable miniature for a manufacturer as I don't believe they ever saw combat. Whilst the same could be said of other vehicles of course, and well the whole Cold War gone Hot scenario, the Swedes don't strike me as being as appealing as other forces. However, that thing had a long service life, so could be used for a few conflicts I suppose. Probably a Jagdpanzer IV in BA terms, or whatever has a long 75mm (the armour was paper thin however).
I did see someone making a T-62 for personal use on one of the Facebook groups, but nothing commercial. There was a T-64 in production in 1/48th a good while ago by a French company, though by the time I found it they'd gone bust. With Kings Hobbies and Games retooling I've been asking the owner to make a T-64 (he's currently putting together a line of modern Ukrainians), so we'll see what happens on that front for a 1/50th scale one.
Of course I assume that Richard's just making these for personal use, so I guess these aren't massive considerations. Even if we see something being sold, well, Tim's range is varied enough that anything could find it way in there. :P
Though if that BTR-152 was in 1/50th I would have totally nabbed one for my moderns. :)
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I send stuff to Jeff at Die Waffenkammer for casting generally.
Good point on the infantry availability.
I was looking at a BTR-152 in 1/56... but lost interest.
I did the BTR-40 and that was a right pain with all the angles.
Perhaps the AMX-13 would be abetter bet...
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As for the Turtle :o o_o All those curves! No way! lol
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Perhaps the AMX-13 would be abetter bet...
I thought you were looking at the AMX-13 turret already?
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Sort of... though enthusisam for building stuff is waning a bit for the moment. It waxes and wanes on about a 2-3 month cycle.
I also broke my car in a pretty severe way on Saturday (While fixing 2 issues, I caused 2 major faults) which has dented my enthusisam... and I bought Scythe which has become a bit of an obsession!