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Title: Building a medieval church (More pictures of the Finished church 140303)
Post by: Dalauppror on January 22, 2014, 07:00:57 AM
I still havent painted more then 4 mounted minis this year due to my neck problem, but at least I manage to start the build of a Medieval Church.

During april it have been 550 years sins the Bishop of Linköping with the Swedish rebel forces managed to beat the Danish King and the Union forces at the Battle at Haraker, just outside of Västerås in Sweden. More about the battle in 1464 later on, but I need a church as that was a significant part of the battlefield.

Unfortunate the today church in Haraker look nothing like the medieval one as it have gone through several addons. But with the information I got from several sources like historical accounts and excavation reports for example I will tyr to build me a Medieval Haraker church...

(http://www.svenskakyrkan.se/Sve/Bilder/Bilder/787aa0c1-64a8-4ce7-81bb-40fe40e073d8.jpg)
The Haraker Church today in a 1795 design...

The First church in Haraker was probably a wooden one built in the 12th century, the first Stone church was built during the 14th century and during my gaming period the i.e. 1450-1480 the church did go throught a major rebuild, they got a brick ceiling, new brick porch and a brick/wood bell tower.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-26XdDq7o8aY/Uty72r8pv7I/AAAAAAAACi8/tXlw5aVuKVc/s1600/Tr%C3%B6n%C3%B6gammla.JPG)
Inspirational picture so you ge an Idéa of about how it could have looked like, of course this church also have gone through some alternation like the windows are from the 17th centery. The Haraker chruch also had a internal tower to the left.

You find the first work in progress pictures at my blog (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/01/building-medieval-church-2.html)

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: Hammers on January 22, 2014, 07:36:16 AM
That's a splendid build, Michael.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: LordOdo on January 22, 2014, 10:29:54 AM
That's a splendid build, Michael.


 lol

Good luck!
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 22, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
Looking forward to seeing this complete  8)

Are you going for similar colours to the stone church above?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: Patrice on January 22, 2014, 11:19:23 AM
It already looks very good.  :)

A church can be important in a medieval battle. In many villages the church was the only stone building, and defenders would go in the church and use it as a small castle.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: von Lucky on January 22, 2014, 03:14:12 PM
A nice start - looking forward to this develop.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: Leidang on January 22, 2014, 04:53:03 PM
Very nice.... I like the textured walls!
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: Dalauppror on January 23, 2014, 05:35:00 AM
Thanks for the support ! Appreciated.

My church will be grayer as it built of granit and not sandstone as the church in the picture, and the texture paper I got have smaler "stones" I hope it will turn out good anyway...

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church
Post by: Dalauppror on January 24, 2014, 11:22:49 AM
some WIP pictures, more ones at my blog. (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/01/building-medieval-church-3.html)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ctSBavMIs0w/Uty94c0YgnI/AAAAAAAACjM/s96-XxSKZOI/s1600/1.gif)
The basic structure was made of fomacore with added texture paper on the outerwalls to get it look like natural stones and bricks.

The added plastic parts have been in my bitbox for some while, door and windows are Games Workshop and the corner stones are from the Warlord ruined farmhouse set.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kJso-x6YQ7g/Uty95LNpgCI/AAAAAAAACjU/dSLSKBjMOkc/s1600/4.gif)
Black Perry box just to hold the parts together while the PVA dry.

By the way...I will not build the interior, so no lift of roof...

Have a realy nice weekend !

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140124)
Post by: Little Odo on January 27, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
Looking good so far
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140124)
Post by: Mitch K on January 28, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
Michael, the textured paper - is this a gaming product, or is this textured wallpaper?
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140124)
Post by: Nysse on January 28, 2014, 08:11:18 PM
Coming along nicely!

The textured paper looks a bit like some model railroad stuff that I've seen at a local hobby store. Seconding Mitch, is that a hobby product or something else (and probably helluva lot cheaper :D )
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140124)
Post by: Dalauppror on January 29, 2014, 09:58:08 AM
Thanks !

I´m not realy sure about the english word for it might be: Paintable Wallpaper, costed about £3 for 1 metre, I found one that could be used as small stones and one that was "Bricks", but the swedish shop that had them a year ago dosen´t any more.

Found this webpage that might have, I havent looked throught all the differnet one... (http://totalwallcovering.com/Book/408/patent-decor.aspx)

just updated my blog with some progress pictures. (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/01/building-medieval-church-4.html)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3Sw8-zzfo0g/UuCoDZw1FYI/AAAAAAAACkQ/hrPnOGQfdhY/s1600/9.gif)

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140129)
Post by: Nysse on January 29, 2014, 10:02:08 AM
Coming along nicely!

Have to see if I can find something like that paper from any local home deco stores. Funny enough if you'd get the same stuff from a hobby store it would probably cost you 30 quid for a metre :D
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140129)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 29, 2014, 10:50:08 AM
You'll be getting some colour on it soon  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140129)
Post by: Dalauppror on February 01, 2014, 10:48:14 AM
Thanks !

Working on the colour and the cemetery

best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140129)
Post by: Dalauppror on February 07, 2014, 01:36:15 PM
Some slow progress in the Church build...

some more Pictures at my blog (http://www.dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/02/building-medieval-church-5.html)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AWrmn6dUjQM/UuPWjQ3nOjI/AAAAAAAACko/0jOWDh4mWfs/s1600/12.gif)

Have a nice weekend

best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Captain Blood on February 07, 2014, 09:21:27 PM
Really coming on well now Michael  :)
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 07, 2014, 10:30:57 PM
Certainly is  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Atheling on February 08, 2014, 06:20:31 AM
Great to see that it's all coming together Michael  8) 8) 8).

Where did you get the textured stonework from? I was online looking for about an hour last night and came up empty handed  :-[.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 08, 2014, 06:52:17 AM
Very Effective! It looks great. I like the interrupted roofing, as i think it makes it look more real. Keep going.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Eric the Shed on February 08, 2014, 07:01:18 AM
looks lovely :)
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Dalauppror on February 08, 2014, 08:01:51 AM
Appreaciated comments mateys !

Still working on the wall, it indeed take some time with the wall roofing...

@Darrell. The internet shop here in Sweden were I bought it  (http://flugger.se/Faerg/Tapet/Filt_vaev__strukturtapet.aspx#&&page=1&Filter%3a+Anvendelsesomr%c3%a5de=Strukturfilt)dosen´t seem to have them any more, I´m not realy sure about the english word for it might be: Paintable Wallpaper, costed about £3 for 1 metre, I found one that could be used as small stones and one that was "Bricks"

Found this webpage that might have, I havent looked throught all the differnet one.. (http://totalwallcovering.com/Book/408/patent-decor.aspx).

Good luck in your search, I´ll be sure to tell you if I find it again.

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Atheling on February 08, 2014, 08:08:49 AM
Appreaciated comments mateys !

Still working on the wall, it indeed take some time with the wall roofing...

@Darrell. The internet shop here in Sweden were I bought it  (http://flugger.se/Faerg/Tapet/Filt_vaev__strukturtapet.aspx#&&page=1&Filter%3a+Anvendelsesomr%c3%a5de=Strukturfilt)dosen´t seem to have them any more, I´m not realy sure about the english word for it might be: Paintable Wallpaper, costed about £3 for 1 metre, I found one that could be used as small stones and one that was "Bricks"

Found this webpage that might have, I havent looked throught all the differnet one.. (http://totalwallcovering.com/Book/408/patent-decor.aspx).

Good luck in your search, I´ll be sure to tell you if I find it again.

Thanks Michael, I'll have a good look through them and see what's what.

Cheers,
Darrell.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Hubbynz on February 09, 2014, 02:43:20 AM
Great work so far.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Dalauppror on February 12, 2014, 10:37:01 AM
Thanks for your support !

Sorry for my slow progress in the build, but I just updated my blog with the latest progress... (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/02/building-medieval-church-6.html)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Mba6j6Bd83E/Uu4uOEPwQxI/AAAAAAAACqA/HSfHYPQHrMs/s1600/19.gif)
Covering the Church yard gare with "brick" paper

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Patrice on February 12, 2014, 10:57:20 AM
Covering the Church yard gare with "brick" paper

Oooohhh I never thought of doing this!  :o :o

Very clever.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Atheling on February 12, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Oooohhh I never thought of doing this!  :o :o

Very clever.

I've just got to find me some of that wallpaper! So far I've found nothing  :-[.

I will steadfastly continue my search  :).

Darrell.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Hammers on February 12, 2014, 12:58:12 PM
Oooohhh I never thought of doing this!  :o :o

Very clever.


Indeed.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Too Bo Coo on February 12, 2014, 02:11:04 PM
It already looks very good.  :)

A church can be important in a medieval battle. In many villages the church was the only stone building, and defenders would go in the church and use it as a small castle.

St Basil's in Red Square is much more of a fortified castle than a çhurch.  Really wild inside.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Dalauppror on February 17, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
Thank you very much !

I ofcourse continued the build during the weekend, you will find some more pictures at my blog, (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/02/building-medieval-church-7.html) even some with the first colours on the church, no not the black.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VStTb-fbRqQ/UvTMaokoQkI/AAAAAAAACq4/1S4F2PcGtQQ/s1600/Bygge3.gif)

I also managed to paint me a medieval Vogt with henchmens. (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/02/fogde-collecting-tax.html)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ziITYcwt4F0/Uv5J7kG23BI/AAAAAAAACuY/EoIBgjfSEqw/s1600/Fogde5.gif)

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: von Lucky on February 17, 2014, 08:57:59 PM
Nice work on the miniatures and I agree - the church is looking a little flat painting-wise (but the built is great).
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Atheling on February 17, 2014, 09:19:12 PM
All coming along really nicely Michael  8) 8) 8)

Darrell.

Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Too Bo Coo on February 17, 2014, 09:23:18 PM
Looking very Russ!  I was at a park near Novgorod where they brought old log buildings from the region, looked very similar to your church.  The walls look much like I've seen at some of the older monasteries.  Very nice stuff!
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140207)
Post by: Dalauppror on February 24, 2014, 05:58:03 AM
Thank you very much !

my never ending church build start to see the end...   you can find some more building pictures at my blog. (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/02/building-medieval-church-8.html)

Best regards Michael

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qgYibmef8BY/Uv8VMwxeapI/AAAAAAAACvA/wcO9WxYUXw0/s1600/23.gif)
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (WIP pictures added 140224)
Post by: Dalauppror on March 01, 2014, 08:09:54 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fXAFGTMbFho/Uw9BsZ-IxJI/AAAAAAAAC5Q/ihX2Ac5tBOY/s1600/44.gif)

The end is near... the church are finnished and you find more pictures at my blog. (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2014/03/medieval-church-finished.html)

I hope you all get a real nice weekend !

Best regards Michael


Church with scaffolding for the workers to use when repairing the roof of the bell tower.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-I1AP6Pw4kfk/UwojpbTyJAI/AAAAAAAAC2I/yaGSLANkr5U/s1600/32.gif)

Some Perry labourers...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ls3qj2vqGEE/Uw38fGjpLeI/AAAAAAAAC3I/nCBN30eur1U/s1600/Laborer-1.gif)
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Za Zjurman on March 01, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
 :o Wow very nice church and I really like the idea about the scaffolding and the not finished part of the bell tower.

Cheers,
Za
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Hammers on March 01, 2014, 10:16:43 AM
Very, very nice. You have inspired me to contemplate a similar build, based on a 'försvarskyrka' (defensive kirk) of my old huntig grounds on Öland an Kalmar (very Yankee sounding name when put in a anglophone context, isn't it? Sounds like the name of a ranch. )

Hossmo, south of Kalmar

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Hossmo_kyrka.jpg)

This church (it used to have smaller windows and less ornate roof) had a dike rather than a wall around it.

(http://media.ölandsguiden.nu/2012/10/DSC_0027-1024x680.jpg)
Källa, Öland


Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: von Lucky on March 02, 2014, 01:07:16 AM
Michael, the church is very beautiful - well done! I sure there's a few more that have also been inspired.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Captain Blood on March 02, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
Brilliant Michael. Love the fact that you've chosen to show the spire under construction. Great use of the Perry labourers  :)

Peder - looking forward to your build  :)
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: commissarmoody on March 02, 2014, 01:08:15 PM
I agree, the under construction is a great idea. It also can lead to a running joke as you use it for your 1930s and 1700 century games. Being that the church's roof is always danged and never fixed :P
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Atheling on March 02, 2014, 03:09:46 PM
Really impressive stuff Michael!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

All the thought, love and hard that has gone into this building work really comes accross  8).

Darrell.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Dalauppror on March 03, 2014, 10:32:45 AM
Thank you very much mateys for following me throught this project. You will indeed see thei church in upcomming aars´s, medieval, 17th centery and maybe even some 1930´s ;)

Below are some more pictures of the finished build.

Best regards Michael

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-M0nfqDPwDp4/Uw9BnyRBieI/AAAAAAAAC30/ruBf9YzaOZM/s1600/34.gif)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J2rtdE46OW4/Uw9Bo7JnzII/AAAAAAAAC4I/LBhz-NxbBM4/s1600/35.gif)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2a4pL4OJ_ew/Uw9Bq-WgmcI/AAAAAAAAC5A/-qWTaRS-oyg/s1600/40.gif)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b-JrgJXCHj0/Uw9Bud_zu-I/AAAAAAAAC54/gADSpsWdKkg/s1600/49.gif)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xr0kskQLcXQ/Uw9BswTfIyI/AAAAAAAAC5Y/BaQc0pgZKSQ/s1600/42.gif)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZM-nqHjzIvw/Uw9Brx_qTYI/AAAAAAAAC5I/PjslSKPZi2I/s1600/43.gif)

Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: pocoloco on March 03, 2014, 11:32:43 AM
Absolutely fantastic Michael!  :-*

Very characterful piece and like many have said already, so useful for many different periods.
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Barry S on March 04, 2014, 07:16:10 AM
A wonderful looking piece  :-*
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Mitch K on March 04, 2014, 09:20:07 AM
What we have here is not wargame terrain. This is three-dimensional artwork.

Thank you for sharing such a fantastic project with us, it really is quite breathtaking.

M
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (Finished 140301)
Post by: Dalauppror on March 04, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Thank you very much, most honoured by your nice comments !

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Building a medieval church (More pictures of the Finished church 140303)
Post by: Phil Robinson on March 04, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
That's a corker Michael :-*