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Title: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age(18.5.22)
Post by: Father Primus on January 13, 2015, 09:22:58 AM: Finally, despite the lack of information and useful images, I decided to start Cilician armenians. Perhaps, they will become my second army for Saga (after I'll decide what battleboard to use...).

These guys represent city garrison of Korycos, local militia and nobility.

First, paron Christophe de Bagramyan, leader of the armed force. Supported by his loyal retainer and city standard-bearer.

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/22813/22813_original.jpg)

Group of 4 armenian knights. In fact, there are only two knights - others are squires of the wealthiest one.

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/18454/18454_original.jpg)

Additional images:

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/18305/18305_original.jpg)

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/18769/18769_original.jpg)

Wandering knight George:

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/19046/19046_original.jpg)

To be continued...
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Engel on January 13, 2015, 09:42:50 AM: WOW :-*

This is just great.
Love the kitbashing, the unusual army choice and the paintjobb.
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Stevo on January 13, 2015, 09:45:43 AM: Really nice work. I love that you are going for such a niche!
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 13, 2015, 11:00:34 AM: Awesome start! I like your painting style, unusual and very distinctive.
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: rumacara on January 13, 2015, 11:12:49 AM: Lovelly paintwork. :-* :-*
More please. :)
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Father Primus on January 13, 2015, 12:34:37 PM: Many thanks, gentlemen :) Medieval Cilician armies in 28mm are not a common sight )) I already have little arabian army and wanted to create some unusual adversary. Initial idea was to make some marauding St.Lasarus knights, but after I'd read about cilicians, I changed my mind.

Currently working on some infantry. Footmen won't be so bright - finally, they are mere peasants. On the other hand, medieval images I saw, show armenians in a colorful dress.
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 13, 2015, 02:20:16 PM: very nice start indeed
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Anderson Collection on January 13, 2015, 08:14:25 PM: Fantastic looking figures love them :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Michi on January 13, 2015, 08:56:22 PM: That is a most impressive paintjob! I´ve not seen anything like it so far. Very artistic and powerful - great work!
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Captain Blood on January 13, 2015, 09:06:51 PM: Very nice conversions of the Fireforge models, and a very bold painting style. Great colour combinations too. Well done :)
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: rampantlion on January 13, 2015, 10:46:10 PM: Wow, that is fantastic work. The way you paint really brings the figures to life. Nice job!

Allen
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: janner on January 14, 2015, 07:26:16 AM: Very striking
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 14, 2015, 11:12:19 AM: Nice painting style.
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Father Primus on January 14, 2015, 11:41:47 AM: In fact, the idea of using bright striking colors in historical miniatures visited me after I'd seen images of Captain Blood's WotR Yorkists in Extra Impetus III :)
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Goliad on January 14, 2015, 12:34:00 PM: Fantastic technique! Sign me up for a "how to" video on the conversions and painting!
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: James Morris on January 14, 2015, 12:56:09 PM: Really loving the highly stylised painting technique! Looking forward to seing more.
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on January 14, 2015, 06:08:07 PM: Wow, these are excellent! I'm not familiar with the "Crescent & Cross" version of SAGA, but would Crusaders work?
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: levied troop on January 14, 2015, 06:32:44 PM: Excellent figures, love the bold painting style.
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: doowopapocalypse on January 16, 2015, 02:19:51 AM: More please! :o
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Phil Portway on January 16, 2015, 12:23:22 PM: They look excellent! :o :o :o :o :o :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Under St. Christopher's banners: my Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age
Post by: Father Primus on January 18, 2015, 05:57:01 PM: First Corycos' city militiamen and their veteran commander.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10848854_722378327877673_1239601059772900845_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10917372_722378301211009_5428671012259006602_n.jpg?oh=67c4e2985165a1802fdce3980874dc06&oe=55264BE9)

P.S. Got a new phone - totally dissapointed by its camera. Need more skill with it...
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: georgec on January 18, 2015, 07:04:35 PM: Quote from: Father Primus on January 13, 2015, 09:22:58 AM
Finally, despite the lack of information and useful images, I decided to start Cilician armenians. Perhaps, they will become my second army for Saga (after I'll decide what battleboard to use...).

Very impressive. Information is hard to come by, have you come across any good sources you could recommend?
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: von Lucky on January 18, 2015, 08:26:45 PM: Lovely painting. The coulours are beautifuly rich.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: Hitman on January 19, 2015, 03:04:24 AM: Impressive looking figures. Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Hitman
8)
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: vcina on January 19, 2015, 05:18:18 AM: The figures look excellent!! Great painting technique.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 20, 2015, 09:41:46 AM: nice indeed
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: Pappa Midnight on January 20, 2015, 03:38:15 PM: Very distinctive and striking painting style. Really liking these. I bet they look brilliant on the gaming table.

Regards
PM
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: Anderson Collection on January 21, 2015, 02:56:00 PM: Great looking figures the head gear really makes them stand out :-*
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (18-01)
Post by: Father Primus on February 21, 2015, 09:19:22 AM: Miraculously, I've got a chicken pox! Being 27 years old, that's an achievment...

On the bright side, I have a lot of free time, so, here we have rural armenian archers WIP.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1904188_740825262699646_1749521330317237035_n.jpg?oh=10920ffdacf898658b00478560c42c91&oe=55558281&__gda__=1431319066_bf368d0eed03a57b100eab73d6188d25)

to georgec:

Unfortunately, never ever seen any useful compilation about cilicians. For a visual source try to search for XIV-th century armenian icons and frescoes (quite a lot of them in the web) - sometimes they show interesting details.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (21-02)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 21, 2015, 09:21:58 AM: Chicken pox? I think at 27 you actually have to try to catch it. lol
Seriously I hope you heal quickly.
And those archers are looking pretty nice, looking forward to seeing them painted.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (21-02)
Post by: rumacara on February 22, 2015, 03:43:57 PM: Wonderfull painting and conversions... :-* :-*
Love them.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (21-02)
Post by: Father Primus on February 22, 2015, 06:51:34 PM: Yep, and here they are!

Shooty hillmen, dressed for combat, or for some kind of armenian fest - sometimes hard to spot any difference))

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/22515/22515_original.jpg)

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/21970/21970_original.jpg)
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 22, 2015, 07:05:04 PM: Nice looking group
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: Atheling on February 23, 2015, 05:44:41 AM: Very nice work :-*

Darrell.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: Byblos on February 23, 2015, 10:22:43 AM: Superb :-*
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: Duke Donald on February 23, 2015, 11:10:28 PM: These are really nice.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: Father Primus on February 24, 2015, 06:47:29 AM: Thanks, gentlemen!

I'm just trying to enjoy my sickness and all the free time it gives to me))

More shooty guys:

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/20178/20178_original.jpg)

And a bunch of noblemen:

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11025825_742382662543906_3431002427754952194_n.jpg?oh=3f0be5e0d34513989021ebc863625a91&oe=557D558D)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10941857_742382689210570_8097485851456271135_n.jpg?oh=984508a4951c73b77209df747f49dc28&oe=557CB0CE&__gda__=1434419454_8dc7d487ce1c063315110d328fd94cf0)
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 24, 2015, 07:15:08 AM: More and more, your point my lack of progress on mine to shame. :)
Do you have an opposition force already made? Or are they a future project?
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: Father Primus on February 24, 2015, 07:35:50 AM: Yes, I have some arabs, painted earlier. Also, there are 1-2 arabian armies in our community.

Though, I suppose to return to my arabian army, after I'll buy some mounted Fireforge Mongols - they look pretty and can be easily converted to Islam :D
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 24, 2015, 07:57:24 AM: Rumor is Gripping beast is making armored and un armored Arab cavalry. But is see nothing wrong with more tartar raiders and pirate action along the coast.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=75597.0
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: tancrede on February 24, 2015, 08:13:06 AM: Very cool minis here !
Nice conversions and good painting, for an original theme...
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (22feb)
Post by: Father Primus on February 26, 2015, 02:29:13 PM: Well, here comes big colorful update!
Thus, I've finished 4pts Cilician force for SAGA, and now gonna rest from armenians for a while :)

So, updated unit of archers:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11025797_743429722439200_4994637873150360245_n.jpg?oh=9147ab1e1e50ef23e7275236a227da17&oe=5594B4C3&__gda__=1434167709_a3423f48784c605abf1967ce6d040f5d)

And mounted nobility!

First, some branch of armenian de Lusinians with ol' one-eye squire:

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/22638/22638_original.jpg)

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/20939/20939_original.jpg)

Powerless, but still rich and proud Rubenid bastard:

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/18134/18134_original.jpg)

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/19516/19516_original.jpg)

And totally fearless and impetuos berserk-knight Ervand or "Foamy Knight" (loosely based upon pretty infamous russian politician of armenian ancestry :))

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/19368/19368_original.jpg)

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/21722/21722_original.jpg)
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (26feb)
Post by: Engel on February 26, 2015, 02:31:35 PM: Really great, both paintjob and conversions. :-*
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (26feb)
Post by: rumacara on February 27, 2015, 03:00:32 PM: :-* :-* :-*

Keep them coming.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (26feb)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 27, 2015, 05:27:23 PM: Very nice
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (26feb)
Post by: Captain Blood on February 27, 2015, 07:58:10 PM: Splendid creations :-*
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (26feb)
Post by: Father Primus on April 01, 2018, 07:09:18 PM: Well, more than 3 years have passed since my last update, but the project is still going on!!!

I've get a sprue of GB romans and decided to give it a good armenian use))

More archers and spearmen (to get two units of 12 warriors each, finally) under ST.Christopher's banner!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JVjwa6x-sFw/WsEetfdPEWI/AAAAAAAAADQ/IiF4ZJ9S6Y4_hreeK3yHARKm69NSOYTNwCLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_185654.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4T-XEiEEouA/WsEetrn0Y_I/AAAAAAAAADU/Jm0LtS3CMyQUZAW6SzRWStFp_PzYr_4qwCLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_185728.jpg)

And the banner itself!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-X8D0-7n7PFA/WsEexrjzNfI/AAAAAAAAADY/IjuflO0oU3Icyg4MLUVKD-H6thb0gTe8QCLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_185811.jpg)
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Tactalvanic on April 01, 2018, 07:23:04 PM: Good to see its still going! 3 years is short term in the case of some projects...

Still They are excellent,, here's to more frequent updates?
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Duke Donald on April 01, 2018, 07:52:45 PM: I really like your painting. There's a borderline impressionistic feel to it, which makes it striking and effective.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Breazer on April 01, 2018, 11:05:51 PM: I love to see another log where someone cuts up the fireforge minis and adds some facial hair. It looks great. Very well crafted sir!
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: vcina on April 02, 2018, 02:31:28 PM: Well done. The figures look excellent.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Father Primus on April 02, 2018, 02:33:59 PM: Thank you))

Well, medieval armenian without a facial hair is a pure nonsence))
I am thinking about adding more knights/squires and a bunch of lightly armed skirmishers with shields/javelins.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Tonhel on April 02, 2018, 04:10:07 PM: Very colourful! It really pops out! I like how you did the shields and banner!
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Vanvlak on April 02, 2018, 05:11:43 PM: I seem to have missed this thread when it started - good job I caught it now, superb work there.
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age (1.4.18)
Post by: Father Primus on May 18, 2022, 03:56:44 PM: After another hiatus - more armenian knights and squires. Now I have 12 heavy cavalry in this army.
Have some issues with a working hand, that's why these guys are painted in a simplified manner.

(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/36677/36677_original.jpg)

(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ego_sum_papa/34544828/37015/37015_original.jpg)
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age(18.5.22)
Post by: Digger on May 19, 2022, 02:07:24 PM: Still as wonderful as the earlier.

Pete
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age(18.5.22)
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 20, 2022, 10:31:07 PM: Amazing collection and wonderful painting. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age(18.5.22)
Post by: Engel on May 22, 2022, 05:11:36 AM: Ohh really nice!
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age(18.5.22)
Post by: gregmita on May 22, 2022, 07:12:23 AM: I love the Kynokephalos banner!
Title: Re: Under St.Christopher's banners: Cilician armenians of the Crusading Age(18.5.22)
Post by: Father Primus on May 23, 2022, 11:01:37 AM: Many thanks, gentlemen! This projects progresses so slowly, but I'm still working on it.

Yes, Kynokephalos version of St. Christopher is my favourite :D