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Title: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Mason on February 18, 2015, 02:25:14 PM
A second attempt at putting together my interpretation of the Army of Melnibone, using the WFB 3rd edition High Elf army list as a basis to build around.

This second attempt begins on page 5 with the conversions for the new troops, and the first painted unit can be found on page 6.

...........................

I seem to be having trouble finding decent information or images of the Army of Melnibone.

Short of re-reading all the books again (it has been some time....). I cannot seem to find good reference material.
It is easy to find plenty on Elric and friends, and pictures from the graphic novels, but beyond that not a lot.

Anyone know any good sources?

Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: aiteal on February 18, 2015, 04:07:47 PM
Have you tried the multiverse (http://www.multiverse.org/fora/) forum?
You might get lucky and Moorcock himself will offer some thoughts :)
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 18, 2015, 06:16:10 PM
I haven't read the Eric books in at least 20 years, so I don't recall much in the way of specific details. Citadel's old range of figures is one interpretation.

http://www.solegends.com/citec/index.htm
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Skrapwelder on February 18, 2015, 07:46:07 PM
There is not a lot of detail regarding the look of Melnibone's army but after a recent re-read I found I was seeing a lot of 16th century references to parts of armor and clothing.
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Yuber Okami on February 18, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
There was a topic discussing it in Moorcock's Miscelany but i cannot find it. There were also army lists for OOT, but  neither i can find them. Anyway, if you look at this link:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=8047.0

Inside there you can find this interesting assesment:

"Heldrak answered well: the Young Kingdoms are pretty il-defined and thinly written.
But we have a few clues nonetheless:
Dharijor is an expansionist state ruled by a king and a small noble class. Cavalry are equipped with horse armour and described as knights. Armour and helmet plumes are generally black although nobles may have more colour and decoration. King Sarasto is noted as wearing dark yellow armour.

Foot soldiers are mentioned in black armour and equipped with halberds. Archers are assumed from the description of a battle involving Dharijorian troops which opens with ‘a rattling black cloud’ of arrows.

Jharkor is ruled by a king and a nobility (although after the death of King Dharmit, Queen Yishana assumes the throne). Jharkorian knights are recorded in gold armour, charging at the gallop with drawn longswords.

Infantry weapons are not described but probably are a mix of bow, javelin and spear. Infantry can be supplemented by camp followers, slaves and serfs. It is not clear whether the latter formed some kind of ‘rising out.’

The White Leopards are an elite guard of 500 picked men who ‘run as swiftly as horses, are as strong as mountain cats and ferocious as blood-mad sharks – they are trained to kill and killing is all they know.’ They are wiped out fighting a rearguard action, in the face of hopeless odds, at the battle of Sequaloris. They fight on foot and are clad in silver armour emblazoned with a leopard.

Tarkesh is a northern state that provides excellent sailors and ships. Galleys are long and low with a single bank of 10-50 pairs of oars crewed exclusively by free warriors. These men tend to be short and dark faced with black hair and beards.

Horsemen are described as knights clad in thick blue armour with red, purple or white plumes and armed with lances. Foot soldiers outnumber horse by about five to one. Infantry weapons are not described but, given the nautical influence of Tarkesh, are likely to be a mix of sword, axe and bow.

Purple towns is an island specialising in trade and ruled by a council of merchants consisting of the nine wealthiest men.

Armour is generally toughened brown leather supplemented by ornate gilded breastplates and helmets. Cloaks and banners are exclusively purple. Some individuals are noted as carrying large axes that require some strength to wield and this may suggest a trained core. Ships crew are generally armed with cutlasses and shortswords.

Shazaar is ruled by a monarchy. Although mostly farmland, Shazaar borders a range of bleak wastelands. Shazaar is famed for its cavalry, ‘wild riders but clever fighters and well disciplined.’ These may be analogous with a range of frontier or marcher forces such as early Norman knights, Anglo-Scottish border horse or eastern European Cossack or Deli cavalry.

Shazaarians are described as wearing bronze armour under grey, brown and black jackets.

Foot troops are presumed to be militia raised from farms with cavalry being provided by retained medium and heavy ‘feudal’ troops supplemented by light horse used to animal herding.

Lormyr, Argimiliar, Pykaraid and Filkhar (southern barbarians): blue and white checked clothing is most common. Breeches and cloaks can also be worn in bright colours, scarlet and green is noted, some of these will be checked also. The clothing gives these forces a celtic flavour which is carried though to the troop types. Some armour can also be checked.

Filkhar is noted for its long handled axes.

Ilmioria is a pleasant land of forest and farmland divided in a number of large city states or Duchies. As suggested, each state is presided over by a Duke supplemented by a council of advisors. The Duchies are bound together by treaties and trade agreements and have formed a national senate. Sorcery is rarely practised and Law is the nominal allegiance.

Fur caps and chequered cloaks are common clothing as are colourful doublets and hose. Ilmioria is also noted for producing fine tooled leather.

Vilmir is a nation dominated by Law. A religious and noble hierarchy presides over a harsh and bureaucratic tax regime. Although nominally headed by a king, the land is often subject to civil war between conflicting noble groups. A reasonable parallel may be medieval England suring the reigns of King Stephen or Richard I but with excessive church influence.

All adult males spend five years in Vilmir’s military, serving in one of five legions. The Grey Defenders are a military elite acting as a combined internal security unit and thought police.

Most citizens wear drab grey with nobles clad in austere white or black.

All of this was found in the HOTT supplement "Wargaming in the Age of Elric of Melnibonē" by Declan McHenry."
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Mason on February 18, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
Thanks for the tips, chaps.

Nothing too specific for Melnibone then...?

That suits me, as I am going to be using the High Elf list in WHFB 3rd edition to build the army around.
All the extra info that you fellas have provided have gotten me thinking about making some opposition (in the future) using another list to build a Young Kingdoms or Pan Tang force.
Hmmmm.....

As I now have enough figures to make a start on the army, I will be doing so shortly.
A few need to be stripped but plenty to be getting on with.

I will post some pics of them soon.
I just want to try out my idea for armour on some other old classics first to make sure it will give me look that I am after,
 ;)

Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: JollyBob on February 18, 2015, 09:25:05 PM
I posted a few scans of images from the comic book adaptations on this thread a few years ago:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.msg94447;topicseen#msg94447

They are pretty random but may help you make some decisions about the direction you want to take.

Whenever I consider this as a project, I am always tempted by the Sidhe from Celtos or the Irregular Elves from Ral Partha. So far I have resisted, but it's only a matter of time.  lol
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Lowtardog on February 18, 2015, 09:35:38 PM
Aye celtos stuff is a ringer, also some of the mantic stuff as they are rangy too but perhaps too much armour?
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Mason on February 18, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
I posted a few scans of images from the comic book adaptations on this thread a few years ago:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.msg94447;topicseen#msg94447

They are pretty random but may help you make some decisions about the direction you want to take.

Cheers, JollyBob.
That book is now on order.



Whenever I consider this as a project, I am always tempted by the Sidhe from Celtos or the Irregular Elves from Ral Partha. So far I have resisted, but it's only a matter of time.  lol

Aye celtos stuff is a ringer, also some of the mantic stuff as they are rangy too but perhaps too much armour?

Both good suggestions, and plenty of options out there, but I am going with the Citadel Melniboneans for my army as I have just been collecting as many as I can get my hands on.
I have always liked the models and they should paint up fairly quickly too (I hope!).

Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Blackwolf on February 18, 2015, 10:03:32 PM
Another project,cripes!
Moorcock,lovely; have a look at the old Chaosium RPG,that should,I daresay give you some information :)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormbringer_%28role-playing_game%29
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Steve63 on February 18, 2015, 10:11:33 PM
I've always thought that Prince Nuada had a bit of an Elric vib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4liPmQEPEU
Cheers
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Mason on February 18, 2015, 11:29:19 PM
I've always thought that Prince Nuada had a bit of an Elric vib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4liPmQEPEU
Cheers

I heartily agree.
 :)



Moorcock,lovely; have a look at the old Chaosium RPG,that should,I daresay give you some information :)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormbringer_%28role-playing_game%29

I have the GW version and shall be perusing more fully for ideas.
 ;)



Another project,cripes!

Two actually.
I have picked up a few damaged models from the old Citadel Eternal Champion range whilst collecting the Melniboneans.
Personalities mainly.
Some of those are already being converted into Eldar Pirates and one is going to be cast up as a Guard version of a spearman for this project.
Just putting the finishing touches on the first few now.
 ;)

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on February 19, 2015, 12:41:04 AM
Don't discount the idea of the Sidhe from Celtos. The running dragons take to the addition of wings very well too. The certainly look the part!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
Post by: Skrapwelder on February 19, 2015, 01:13:14 AM
I did a series of skirmish games set in the Young Kingdoms for a convention. A lot of pictures posted here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=65268.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=65268.0)

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
Post by: jthomlin on February 19, 2015, 08:45:20 AM
There is a new comic interpretation out:

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Moorcocks-Elric-Vol-Throne/dp/1782761241

Moorcock didn't have anything to do with it but said he really liked it and thought the plot changes made the story better.

The next volume 'Stormbringer' should have Melnibonian soldiers defending Immir and dragon riders illustrated, but it won't be out until April 21 ...  :(

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Moorcocks-Elric-Vol-Throne/dp/1782761241

Cheers!
Joe Thomlinson
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
Post by: Mason on February 19, 2015, 08:58:47 AM
Don't discount the idea of the Sidhe from Celtos. The running dragons take to the addition of wings very well too. The certainly look the part!

I shall take a peek at the range, thanks.

As I already have a stash of the old Citadel figures they will form the bulk of the army.
I am including a few old Citadel Elves as well, but the majority will be from the EC range.

Regarding Dragons: I have an old Dragon that I intend to use as the basis for my Dragon Rider, but that will be one of the last things to done, so there will be plenty of time to be influenced by other examples.
 ;)



I did a series of skirmish games set in the Young Kingdoms for a convention. A lot of pictures posted here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=65268.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=65268.0)

I remember that thread and like the choices that you made for alternatives.
Those Clakars look great and I may well copy that conversion if I expand the project further.
They are very tempting.... ::)



There is a new comic interpretation out:

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Moorcocks-Elric-Vol-Throne/dp/1782761241

That has been ordered and I am eagerly awaiting its arrival.
 :D

Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Vermis on February 19, 2015, 09:26:15 AM
Have you tried the multiverse (http://www.multiverse.org/fora/) forum?
You might get lucky and Moorcock himself will offer some thoughts :)


I imagine something along the lines of "Anything as long as the minis aren't from THE LORD OF THE RINGS NNGH I HATE YOU TOLKIEN AAARGH!"

Looking forward to the actual mini choices. :)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
Post by: Blackwolf on February 19, 2015, 10:33:08 PM
Although I have not read the books in over 30 years; I look forward to this very much,Moorcock was of a time when I read indiscriminately,trying to absorb,well basically everything,the whole Eternal Champion thing struck a chord; and whilst I find him mostly unreadable now,my memory's of the books are very evocative.
I say again; I shall look forward to this :)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 20, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
Thanks for the encouragement, fellas.
 :D

The figures that I have so far and an explanation of how they fit into the WFB 3rd Edition High Elf list....as you can see there are some gaps that need filling.
These figures are on their way except for a couple of command figures (musicians and standards) that I hope to get my hands on soon.
 :)

(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a416/blindbeggarminiatures/M004_zps0763e082.jpg)

Top left, the Cavalry, which will be used as Silver Helms and will either be used as one large unit or two smaller ones.

Beneath them are a large unit of heavily armoured swordsmen that will also carry shield, and will form a unit of Warrior Kin.

At the bottom on the left are a group of Wardancers, which will probably be led by a Moonglum figure rather than the odd man out. Used as, unsurprisingly,....Wardancers!
 :D

In the centre at the top are two regiments of mixed weapon infantry, half with spears and half with bows.
The bow armed elves are Skarlocs wood elf archers, which I think fit the bill nicely.
The will be used as Merchant Companies.

Beneath them are some axe and mace armed chaps who will also carry shields and form another Kin Band.

Top right shows the crew of a chariot, which will be pulled by the Tygers.
I have yet to source a chariot that I want to convert.
I thought I had on of the old metal ones but cannot find it.....

Beneath the chariot crew is a mage that will be chopped and converted to incorperate an Eternal Champion character body and mounted on a barded warhorse.
This is mainly to give me a little variety in the building and painting process.
He is accompanied by a Unicorn which will have a female Sorceress as a companion.

Lastly, beneath the characters, are the Melnibonean Archers who will be Guard Archers.



There is also an Elric figure in the centre who will lead a Guard unit.
This will be of my own design as I am converting/sculpting a spearman which is nearly finished.
This will be sent off with some of my other greens to be cast up and will result in me having a totally unique unit to form the centre of the army.
 :D


Oh, and then there will be a Dragon Rider, but I am saving that for last.....

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 20, 2015, 09:55:22 PM
Oooh more eye candy! :D :D

Let me get a chair and settle in.

Cheers
Bertie.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2015, 12:00:39 AM
Very nice, sounds like it will be a great army.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Yuber Okami on February 21, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Yes, very nice. Have you thought about adding a "Silent Guard" unit? They would be human slaves, but quite skilled anyway.

PS: Would you consider adding a Yyrkoon miniature as a hero?
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Vermis on February 21, 2015, 12:25:24 AM
Nice-looking haul. This is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 21, 2015, 02:03:23 AM
What figure's are you looking for? I'll take a look.As it stands I' m pritty sure I've got fair few of these knocking around in my workshop,I've had a similar idea gathering dust for nearly twenty year's which means I'm bound to have a few duplicates as I've only a handful painted and only the one plastic figure in the lot (griff from the blood island set I did for the late jim Bowen)if you don't class those elves with the plastic spear hand's.I'm pritty sure theres 20-30 noldor floating around too,I was looking for a reason not  to tidy my workshop tomorrow anyway it might as well be for a trip through the lead pile.
Mark.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 21, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
Let me get a chair and settle in.

You may as well get a chair, mate.
This is going to take a while.
 ;)



Very nice, sounds like it will be a great army.

Nice-looking haul. This is going to be interesting.

Thanks, chaps.
I hope you are right.
 :)



Yes, very nice. Have you thought about adding a "Silent Guard" unit? They would be human slaves, but quite skilled anyway.

PS: Would you consider adding a Yyrkoon miniature as a hero?

I have a unit that I am making myself as Guards.
I will post a picture of the figure when it is finished.
It is about 95% done at the moment.
Yrkoon is in there somewhere..... ;)



What figure's are you looking for? I'll take a look.As it stands I' m pritty sure I've got fair few of these knocking around in my workshop,I've had a similar idea gathering dust for nearly twenty year's which means I'm bound to have a few duplicates as I've only a handful painted and only the one plastic figure in the lot (griff from the blood island set I did for the late jim Bowen)if you don't class those elves with the plastic spear hand's.I'm pritty sure theres 20-30 noldor floating around too,I was looking for a reason not  to tidy my workshop tomorrow anyway it might as well be for a trip through the lead pile.
Mark.

At the moment I am only looking for a few more Melnibonean spearmen and classic elf standards and musicians from here:

http://www.solegends.com/citcat1988/cat1988p052-02.htm

and a handful of Skarlocs wood elf archers to flesh out the merchant companies, but they are easy enough to find on ebay.
It is the command figures that are not so easy to find.

Why would you want to tidy your workshop, though?
Every time I 'tidy' my cupboard I find something that I am not looking for and cannot ever find what I went there for in the first place.

Tidy?
No.
Organised chaos is far more use.
 :D
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 21, 2015, 10:48:36 AM
 I'll have a look I'm sure I've some of these in there.I know for a fact that I've some spare saddle detailing bags and standard's that went with the' two legged 'hero horse's,your more than welcome too.
Have you had a look at the Marauder(forgive the spelling mind went blank)elves they have some good bridging figures to mix in the styling is between high elf/ sea elf and the wood elves.?
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 21, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Thanks, that would be most appreciated.
 :D

As for using other figures, in my opinion mixing too much may not work.
I am considering using these, with a little rework of the paint, as Seekers....


(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/themason73/UndertakersandHSandgangs042.jpg)



(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/themason73/UndertakersandHSandgangs044.jpg)





(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/themason73/UndertakersandHSandgangs046.jpg)





(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/themason73/UndertakersandHSandgangs047.jpg)




I originally used them as a Shadow Elf warband in Mordheim, but I consider Elves 'broken' in that system, so have no qualms abot reworking them.

The female Mage will be perfect to work with the Unicorn and the WQ Wardancer can lead that unit on the table.
Win-win all round, I reckon.
 ;)

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: abdul666lw on February 21, 2015, 12:39:25 PM
There was a rich tread here almost 7 years ago (how time flies  :( ) about 'Warfare in the Young Kingdoms (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.0)'.
Warning: Comics and book covers generally fail abysmally to reflect the written descriptions. For instance (it's Conan, not Elric, but the observation is quite general) In 'Black Colossus' the upper-class minority of Hyborian blood provides to units to the Khorajan host: 'knights' in full armour (one of the very few cases in Conan's setting where the description could be understood as Hundred Years War plate armour) and unarmoured spearmen from the impoverished / ruined families. Now in the comics the knights are protected only by a light helmet and a buckler, while the 'poor spearmen' are covered with mail  :o In 'Lair of the white worm' and 'The frost giant's daughter' Conan wears a full suit of mail (booty from the sack of Venarium?) : Frazetta's paintings have him in fur loincloth... One wonders if the artists bothered to *read* the texts they were supposed to illustrate. Now, back to Melniboné, sadly Moorcock 'descriptions' are as a rule almost uninformative.
For the colors we know that the Melnibonean Imperial Guard was clad in 'Chinese imperial' yellow, Cymoril's Leibstandarte in sky blue -in exile Melniboneans  turned less uniform and with 'barbarian' details (DE with cloaks of reptilian skin, for instance, would fit the bill). I don't have my Elric novels at hand, but I seem to remember that the defenders of Imrryr either wore bronze armour or were clad in yellow?



As for the drawing style 'The Ruby Throne (http://infinitecomix.com/review-elric-volume-1-ruby-throne-standing-brink-chaos/)' reminds me somewhat of Druillet's rendition of 'The Dreaming City'
(http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/bordel.haghn_.jpg)
- his science-fantasy vision of 'Salammbô' is equally striking and inspirational
(http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Druillet4.jpg)


The GW / Marauder implicit identification of Melniboneans with Dark Elves has firm cultural / ethical bases, opening many possibilities , e.g Grenadier 'Shadow Elves' now sold by Mirliton (http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=fantasy-2528mm-dark-elves)
(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/DE004.jpg)
(and possibly some 'Not-dark' Elves from various manufacturers?).

Minifigs 'Elvin Dragon Masters' of the Aureola Rococo range (http://www.solegends.com/minifigs/mfar.htm)
(http://www.solegends.com/minifigs/mfardragons.jpg)
came straight from a painting of Elric by Rosney Mathews:
(http://www.dana-mad.ru/gal/images/Rodney%20Matthews/Stories/rodney_matthews_stories_elric_the%20dragon%20lord.jpg)
They were 'true' 25mm, like other types of the range, but the interesting 'Knights of the Siver Rose and 'Sharadan Lords of Darkness' were already 'heroic' 28mm (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.msg528670#msg528670).

Now -probably not for Melniboneans, but possibly for one of their foes - what about Privateer Press Skorne (http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/skorne/units)? They look 'unusual pre-gunpowder fighters' enough and offer a diversity of warrior types.
(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/74081_TyrantZaadesh_WEB.jpg)
Then, along the same lines, some Tékumel minis (http://thetekumelclub.blogspot.fr/p/the-palace-of-ever-glorious-war.html) could well appear in a campaign set in the time of Elric:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yyj7NkC5mQ4/SuTrnISi66I/AAAAAAAAABU/0b7YytNKVGc/s1600/28mmPetalThrone_9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 21, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
I get where your coming from,I hope you don't mind ,I've added a picture to show what I ment by using bits of the Maurader figures.There sculpted by GW sculpters under a different brand name.so its pritty easy to make them fit.I always felt the original horse wasn't chunky enough for the head so I simpley cut the head off and glue.straight onto the cut no resculpting or gap filling,or even pinning.
I'll see what I can dig out and let you know asap.
Mark.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: DeafNala on February 21, 2015, 05:02:49 PM
You have amassed quite a STUNNING Collection of FINE Old Minis there, Paul. I'm looking forward to their progress...HAVE FUN with it all!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 21, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
Round one lol.
I know I've more than this.I didn't know just how messed up my bit boxes had become,As everyone who comes round ends up rooting through them.
Just thought I'd post this to prove I'm a man of my word,(just to be clear I'm not offering you all of them!but I will pick out some useful bits as I find them. lol)
Mark.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 21, 2015, 06:33:55 PM
Blimey!

That is a lot of Elves!
 8) 8)

Whatever you have to spare, please let me know.
There could well be some stuff in there that would fit the bill.
 :D
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 21, 2015, 09:15:55 PM
Is that all Mark? lol lol lol

Be careful Paul, that's a deep rabbit hole.. ;)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 21, 2015, 09:52:05 PM
 Urm, no.
I have to confess I've just found the odd plastic lotr figure I'd painted and forgot about.
Oh alright it might be a few more.
Right before you ask Matt it might actually be enough for a game(both sides)There may or may not also be enough plastic on sprue's to fill a carrier bag,if you don't try and put in the forty or so metal lotr figures that were possibley in the cupboard as well.Nor mention the half painted Arthurian unit that wasn't wedged in amongst the lotr buildings.
 I never made.
I'm not sure , I should carry on looking.I just spent the York show telling everyone I couldn't remember the last time I did any painting just for me.
Turns out I was bang on, lol
I can confess this on the forum because  no one knows.what I look like lol
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Lowtardog on February 21, 2015, 09:57:16 PM
Would be worth checking whiteknights sea elves too they have a dark elf look to them
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: stone-cold-lead on February 21, 2015, 11:35:48 PM
Ooh... I'm looking forward to seeing how this project progresses. Melniboneans are a bit of an obsession of mine and I've also been using the WFB 3rd edition High Elf army list as a basis. I've got an almost pure Melnibonean army with a handful of High Elf characters and the Dragon Masters dragon thrown in for good measure (all in the lead pile of course so nothing painted). I've got a few additional High/Wood Elf bits I could add if need be but I like the idea of keeping it as Melnibonean as possible. Once I've stripped the last of the models I plan to lay it all out and post pics of my insanity.  ;D
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Vermis on February 22, 2015, 12:29:36 AM
Mason: The look of those old wood elves fits pulp fantasy well, I think. Tall boots, open tunics, big big hair... :)

Abdul: Blimey those Druillet pieces are impressive. Ditto the minifigs dragons - I don't think I've seen those before.

Lowtardog: Second that! White Knight's stuff isn't a million miles away.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Elk101 on February 22, 2015, 04:26:33 PM
Any good mate?
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 22, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Any good mate?

Perfect!
 :D

Yes, please.

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 22, 2015, 06:14:12 PM
You know there's a slight flaw in this cunning plan  lol
(The bit about a PM'd postal address)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 23, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
Ooh... I'm looking forward to seeing how this project progresses. Melniboneans are a bit of an obsession of mine and I've also been using the WFB 3rd edition High Elf army list as a basis. I've got an almost pure Melnibonean army with a handful of High Elf characters and the Dragon Masters dragon thrown in for good measure (all in the lead pile of course so nothing painted). I've got a few additional High/Wood Elf bits I could add if need be but I like the idea of keeping it as Melnibonean as possible. Once I've stripped the last of the models I plan to lay it all out and post pics of my insanity.  ;D

I know about your 'obsession' as your thread on the Oldhammer forum came up when I was searching for info.
Most impressive.

I also checked out the Melniboneans in your gallery, very inspirational.

I did consider going for an all Melnibonean force, but I know what I am like....it would take forever to get all the archers needed so I opted for a halfway solution, Melnibs as elite Archers and Skarlocs for the merchant companies.
If I had taken too long to start I would just get distracted by another shiny thing instead... ;)




Would be worth checking whiteknights sea elves too they have a dark elf look to them

If I expand this to include a Naval force I will use WK's Elves as they are great.
 :D



 
You know there's a slight flaw in this cunning plan  lol
(The bit about a PM'd postal address)

On to it!

Thank you.
 :D


Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 23, 2015, 12:05:46 PM
Got your PM Paul,now were back on track lol
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 23, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
Paul,
This is as far as I've managed in line with you Pm's parts for a command group,mounted hero,bolt thrower and crew.
Mark.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 23, 2015, 07:00:42 PM
They will all fit the bill perfectly, Mark.
Thank you very much, you are a gentleman.
 :D

Much appreciated,
Paul
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Jaypeel on February 23, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
Not to derail or steal the thread,
I am a long time fan of Elric and oldhammer.
I would love to start a small project. I have  some celtos, Gw, chronopia somewhere.
lots of info for all the young kingdoms colors, but what colors are the Melnibones armor?
I can't seem to find anything.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: Mason on February 23, 2015, 07:23:47 PM
Not to derail or steal the thread,
I am a long time fan of Elric and oldhammer.
I would love to start a small project. I have  some celtos, Gw, chronopia somewhere.
lots of info for all the young kingdoms colors, but what colors are the Melnibones armor?
I can't seem to find anything.

No problem, sir.

The only reference I have seen is for bronze armour, which suits me as I intend to go down that route and will be testing out my ideas on some other armored figures before I start on these.
 ;)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 23, 2015, 09:04:15 PM

I'll be looking deeper into the lead pile,tomorrow,as there's still stuff missing from the elf draw,so I'll start looking in the  40k,and Dwarf draws,during lunch.(hopefully that should do it ,otherwise its a bottle of red and an evening pretending to work,because it's bugging the heck out of me.)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: Mason on February 27, 2015, 12:32:16 AM
Here is a quick couple of shots of the conversion that I have knocked together to use as Elite Guards for the Army....

(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a416/blindbeggarminiatures/Eldar%20Crew%20WIP%201%20042_zpsucjwgshu.jpg)




(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a416/blindbeggarminiatures/3b08c3b7-db29-4c82-ae79-9294ca9a6352_zps0gyhjt0o.jpg)


I have gone for a chunkier, more imposing look for this unit.
This is going off tomorrow to be cast up.

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: DeafNala on February 27, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
VERY NICE, Paul! Having a somewhat more substantial Guardsman seems like an appropriate change from the more normal anorexic look I associate with Melniboneans.
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: swiftnick on February 27, 2015, 05:09:43 PM
There was a topic discussing it in Moorcock's Miscelany but i cannot find it. There were also army lists for OOT, but  neither i can find them. Anyway, if you look at this link:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=8047.0

Inside there you can find this interesting assesment:

"Heldrak answered well: the Young Kingdoms are pretty il-defined and thinly written.
But we have a few clues nonetheless:
Dharijor is an expansionist state ruled by a king and a small noble class. Cavalry are equipped with horse armour and described as knights. Armour and helmet plumes are generally black although nobles may have more colour and decoration. King Sarasto is noted as wearing dark yellow armour.

Foot soldiers are mentioned in black armour and equipped with halberds. Archers are assumed from the description of a battle involving Dharijorian troops which opens with ‘a rattling black cloud’ of arrows.

Jharkor is ruled by a king and a nobility (although after the death of King Dharmit, Queen Yishana assumes the throne). Jharkorian knights are recorded in gold armour, charging at the gallop with drawn longswords.

Infantry weapons are not described but probably are a mix of bow, javelin and spear. Infantry can be supplemented by camp followers, slaves and serfs. It is not clear whether the latter formed some kind of ‘rising out.’

The White Leopards are an elite guard of 500 picked men who ‘run as swiftly as horses, are as strong as mountain cats and ferocious as blood-mad sharks – they are trained to kill and killing is all they know.’ They are wiped out fighting a rearguard action, in the face of hopeless odds, at the battle of Sequaloris. They fight on foot and are clad in silver armour emblazoned with a leopard.

Tarkesh is a northern state that provides excellent sailors and ships. Galleys are long and low with a single bank of 10-50 pairs of oars crewed exclusively by free warriors. These men tend to be short and dark faced with black hair and beards.

Horsemen are described as knights clad in thick blue armour with red, purple or white plumes and armed with lances. Foot soldiers outnumber horse by about five to one. Infantry weapons are not described but, given the nautical influence of Tarkesh, are likely to be a mix of sword, axe and bow.

Purple towns is an island specialising in trade and ruled by a council of merchants consisting of the nine wealthiest men.

Armour is generally toughened brown leather supplemented by ornate gilded breastplates and helmets. Cloaks and banners are exclusively purple. Some individuals are noted as carrying large axes that require some strength to wield and this may suggest a trained core. Ships crew are generally armed with cutlasses and shortswords.

Shazaar is ruled by a monarchy. Although mostly farmland, Shazaar borders a range of bleak wastelands. Shazaar is famed for its cavalry, ‘wild riders but clever fighters and well disciplined.’ These may be analogous with a range of frontier or marcher forces such as early Norman knights, Anglo-Scottish border horse or eastern European Cossack or Deli cavalry.

Shazaarians are described as wearing bronze armour under grey, brown and black jackets.

Foot troops are presumed to be militia raised from farms with cavalry being provided by retained medium and heavy ‘feudal’ troops supplemented by light horse used to animal herding.

Lormyr, Argimiliar, Pykaraid and Filkhar (southern barbarians): blue and white checked clothing is most common. Breeches and cloaks can also be worn in bright colours, scarlet and green is noted, some of these will be checked also. The clothing gives these forces a celtic flavour which is carried though to the troop types. Some armour can also be checked.

Filkhar is noted for its long handled axes.

Ilmioria is a pleasant land of forest and farmland divided in a number of large city states or Duchies. As suggested, each state is presided over by a Duke supplemented by a council of advisors. The Duchies are bound together by treaties and trade agreements and have formed a national senate. Sorcery is rarely practised and Law is the nominal allegiance.

Fur caps and chequered cloaks are common clothing as are colourful doublets and hose. Ilmioria is also noted for producing fine tooled leather.

Vilmir is a nation dominated by Law. A religious and noble hierarchy presides over a harsh and bureaucratic tax regime. Although nominally headed by a king, the land is often subject to civil war between conflicting noble groups. A reasonable parallel may be medieval England suring the reigns of King Stephen or Richard I but with excessive church influence.

All adult males spend five years in Vilmir’s military, serving in one of five legions. The Grey Defenders are a military elite acting as a combined internal security unit and thought police.

Most citizens wear drab grey with nobles clad in austere white or black.

All of this was found in the HOTT supplement "Wargaming in the Age of Elric of Melnibonē" by Declan McHenry."

I have never heard of this. Is it a book? Where is it available from?
Title: Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
Post by: Tordenskjold on February 27, 2015, 07:44:47 PM
I have never heard of this. Is it a book? Where is it available from?

The 'Elric Saga' is a book series, by Michael Moorcock. They're great fun and available from most international sellers of used and new books and have recently been republished in a very nicely done series of 'Definite Editions' by Gollancz. The information in the quote is gathered from a large number of books as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: Vauln on February 27, 2015, 08:56:25 PM
For those interested in Elric and the Melnibonians there is this...
http://titan-comics.com/c/120-elric-the-ruby-throne/ (http://titan-comics.com/c/120-elric-the-ruby-throne/)
Highly recommended.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: swiftnick on March 02, 2015, 08:02:48 AM
Sorry should have been sharper with the cut and paste. The trials of posting while on the move.
I meant I had never heard of the Hott supplement by Declan McHenry.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: Yuber Okami on March 05, 2015, 07:45:45 AM
I don't know - I simply read about it in TMP. I looked for it in the net and found the document in one of those document-storage sites like scribd, but it asked me to register to access it so i could not take a look at it. Aside from that, i remember someone posting HOTT lists for Corum and Elric's worlds (the first ones were quite impressive), but they unfotunately disappeared from the net a while ago.

BTW, did you notice the "Warfare in the Young Kingdoms" on this forums? http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.0
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.0)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: abdul666lw on March 22, 2015, 08:42:20 PM
Maybe not for Melniboné itself - unless as Yyrkoon's personal retinue - but Werewoolf Minis (specialized in 'quasi WHFB / WH40K miniatures "Sacred Band of Lust" (Slaanesh worshippers, obviously) may well find a home in Elric's world.
- command  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Fallen-Gods-Sacred-Band-of-Lust-Command-Group-3-/271808691580)
- sword & shield  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Fallen-Gods-Sacred-Band-of-Lust-w-swords-and-shields-5-/271804316009)
- halberd  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Fallen-Gods-Sacred-Band-of-Lust-w-halberds-5-/281632097500)

Then they are rather... surprising when seem from the back:
(https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10614260_821456284557655_8985853993980626349_n.jpg?oh=a12562fbe6132dac6f1b39dc188a7c83&oe=557CE0BC)
But Melnibonean culture was not the only 'weird' one in those times...
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: Patsuriku on March 22, 2015, 09:00:01 PM

Then they are rather... surprising when seem from the back:



 :o To say the least!  lol
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: twrchtrwyth on March 23, 2015, 01:10:24 AM
Sorry should have been sharper with the cut and paste. The trials of posting while on the move.
I meant I had never heard of the Hott supplement by Declan McHenry.
https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HOTT/files/The%20Young%20Kingdoms/
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: Vermis on March 23, 2015, 01:43:59 PM
I guess that's the reply to chainmail bikinis and plate metal crop tops.  o_o
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
Post by: Mason on March 24, 2015, 09:25:48 AM
I guess that's the reply to chainmail bikinis and plate metal crop tops.  o_o

Yep!

There will be none of those in my Melnibonean Army.
I will leave that kind of thing to those that feel the need for them.... ::)

I shall be sticking to the original Citadel EC figures with a few Citadel Elves from the same era thrown in as they should blend in pretty well.



I should be ready to get going with this soon, as I have just received notification that my castings are on their way, which will mean that I will have plenty of my own Guards to add to the army.

A large unit of these chaps should look pretty imposing....

(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a416/blindbeggarminiatures/Eldar%20Crew%20WIP%201%20042_zpsucjwgshu.jpg)

....I just need to convert a couple into the command figures.

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade.
Post by: Mason on March 27, 2015, 12:02:07 PM
I now have the Guard back from the caster.

I just have to add a character figure and convert a couple into a musician and standard bearer and they are ready for painting.

(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a416/blindbeggarminiatures/Guards%20and%20weapon%20sprues%20003_zpsrvp5a1mc.jpg)

I also have a few too many, so if anyone is interested in any, send me a PM.
I cannot sell them but would be willing to trade my excess figures.
 :D

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade
Post by: DeafNala on March 27, 2015, 02:05:33 PM
The Melnibonean Lads look SPLENDID even in their W.I.P. state. Have FUN with the painting et al!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on March 27, 2015, 03:51:36 PM
Looking forward to seeing more of this. Great work! I have sent you a PM in case I have any of the figures you are looking for.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade
Post by: pocoloco on March 27, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Whoa! Quite a project you got here Paul!

And looks like you are already beyond a good start at that too!  8)

What kind of colour palette you are going to have?
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade
Post by: Mason on March 28, 2015, 01:07:31 AM
Thanks, chaps.
 :D

I am looking forward to getting on to these soon.
The days are getting brighter, so I may be able to start painting figures again soon.
Fingers crossed.
 ;)



What kind of colour palette you are going to have?

Other than bronze armour, nothing is set in stone yet.
I think that each regiment will be different so as not to get bored.


Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade
Post by: pocoloco on March 28, 2015, 08:11:18 AM
Sounds good, that not getting bored part :D
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade.
Post by: Elk101 on March 28, 2015, 10:00:09 AM
I now have the Guard back from the caster.

I just have to add a character figure and convert a couple into a musician and standard bearer and they are ready for painting.

(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a416/blindbeggarminiatures/Guards%20and%20weapon%20sprues%20003_zpsrvp5a1mc.jpg)

I also have a few too many, so if anyone is interested in any, send me a PM.
I cannot sell them but would be willing to trade my excess figures.
 :D



These would probably look great for Atlanteans alongside the Lucid Eye simians and prehistoric tribes.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Army is assembled!
Post by: Mason on June 06, 2015, 11:41:50 AM
The list as it is:
Time to dig this one up before I forget......

These would probably look great for Atlanteans alongside the Lucid Eye simians and prehistoric tribes.

They may well do, mate.
I do have a few spare if you want to give it a go.
 ;)


I now have all the figures that I need to get started.

The units I already have to work with:

Elite Guard Regiment (20 figures including command)
Warrior regiment with swords (20 figures inc cmd)
Warrior regiment with maces (20 figures inc cmd)
Warrior regiment with axes (12 figures inc cmd)
Merchant company with 50/50 split of spears and longbows (20 figs inc cmd)
Merchant company with 50/50 split of spears and longbows (20 figs inc cmd)
Archers (15 figures)
Archers (15 figures)
Wardancer unit (8 figures)
Scout unit (10 figures)

12 armoured cavalry inc cmd

2 or 3 chariots dependant on design

To be added later:
2 Bolt throwers (when I decide on which to use, or make myself)
1 (or maybe more!) dragons.

That lot should keep me busy for quite a while.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Army is assembled.
Post by: Elk101 on June 06, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Don't tempt me with ANOTHER period!  lol

I'm only just getting over starting supers!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Army is assembled.
Post by: Mason on July 19, 2019, 11:38:18 PM
OK, so I sold all of the Melniboneans for this project a couple of years ago BUT.....

This project is on the verge of being 'reborn', although it is in an embryonic stage at the moment, it will be happening this time.
 ;)

A better explanation and maybe a picture of two over the weekend.
 :D

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth!
Post by: Blackwolf on July 19, 2019, 11:59:27 PM
Looking forward to it Paul :)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth! (Archer base model 20/07)
Post by: Mason on July 20, 2019, 04:37:03 PM
Looking forward to it Paul :)

Cheers, mate.
 :)


Well, as I mentioned, I sold off the army itself a couple of years ago as I had another plan and decided to do that instead.
It has taken a while but now it is back on the menu.

The plan is this: I am going to make my own conversions for the Army of Melnibone using the old 80's sculpts as a starting point.
I realise that converting so many figures is not really going to happen as I do not have the time, so what is going to happen is I am going to make one conversion and cast them up to regiment strength (or however many are required).
This way I get a completely original army of my own devising using the WFB 3rd edition Armies book to create the various units..
 :D

When I sold the old Melniboneans off I kept one of each figure and all of the the damaged ones with exactly this purpose in mind.

I have already converted a Melnibonean spearman to be used as a 'base' model for the bulk of the army (as spears and bows will be the main feature for a unified look) and sent him off for casting, with the plan being to further convert each master casting slightly in order to make each regiment slightly different in style and then get that cast in the required numbers.

I will, of course, have to do further conversions to the base model of each regiment in order to create standard bearers, musicians and heroes for each unit where required, but that is not a problem as I will only need one of each.

I have also converted one of the archers, who will act as a base for all of the Archer units in the army (I am planning three or four 10 strong units of these), each separate unit will be differentiated by the colour scheme.

Here is the base Archer model, which will be sent off for casting soon....

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/39/4805-200719154403.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/39/4805-200719154529.jpeg)

This model has had a greenstuff 'kilt' added, with a trim to allow for easy colour differences, a modified helmet with 'wings' and a mouth grille added, and a simple decorated belt, the designs on which will be utilised across the army to help with unifying the overall look.


That is the plan and, as I will only be creating one unit at a time as casting space allows, it should not be too overwhelming a task to keep up with.

 
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth! ('Spearman' base model 25/07)
Post by: Mason on July 25, 2019, 03:01:18 PM
I have now got the castings of the 'base' model for the 'spearmen', which will be individually modified some more so that I can create a few different 'looks', so each regiment can have their own distinct uniform.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/39/4805-250719142839.jpeg)

(I know that you cannot really see what is going on but I cannot really ink them if I want to convert them some more them, so have included the original, slightly damaged, version to help clear that up a little).

You have probably guessed this going to be a 'slow burn' project as each stage needs to be completed before I can move onto the next and eventually actually paint any of them.

To satisfy the need to actually get started I shall be painting up some unconverted Scouts to keep me going.
Pictures of them when they are done, hopefully soon.

 :)

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth! ('Spearman' base model 25/07)
Post by: Yuber Okami on July 26, 2019, 09:04:26 AM
There is something I have never figured out about melniboneans: their skin colour. Yykoon was depicted in the comic as having a quite tanned skin, but the other characters were always pale-white skinned (I don't remember if it is described in the books). With Elric being albino, I have always thought it would have been more shocking to have the average melnibonean bronze or dark skinned in order to get a stronger contrast with Elric, and deviate from the "melniboneans are noldor elves" trend. Which way are you going with your army?
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth! ('Spearman' base model 25/07)
Post by: Mason on July 26, 2019, 10:25:25 AM
To be honest, I was just going to go down the 'standard' of 'Elves have pale skin' approach, but you have got me thinking now.
Hmmmm......

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth! ('Spearman' base model 25/07)
Post by: Blackwolf on July 28, 2019, 02:37:12 AM
When you’ve finished we can have a battle with my Hawkmoon army...which remains unpainted,haha  ;)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Rebirth! ('Spearman' base model 25/07)
Post by: Mason on July 28, 2019, 10:18:27 AM
When you’ve finished we can have a battle with my Hawkmoon army...which remains unpainted,haha  ;)

A bit like my Middle Earth stuff, eh...?
 lol ;)

Funny you should mention Hawkmoon, mate, as I am tempted to use Gran Bretan as inspiration for at least one regiment.

Anyways, these chaps are not all unpainted as I have managed to get the first bunch coloured-in.
Off to take piccies now.
 ;)

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: Mason on July 28, 2019, 11:47:00 AM
Well, I was eager to actually see some progress on this so got the first unit painted up, a unit of Scouts, or Seekers as they are called in the WFB 3rd edition High Elf army list.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-280719123839.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-280719123929.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-280719124006.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-280719124133.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-280719124214.jpeg)


They look a little shiny, but are will not look that bad on the table as this is mostly a result of the lamp being positioned a little close during the taking of these shots.


Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: Lord Raglan on July 28, 2019, 12:20:21 PM
old skool - I like them  :-*
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: majorsmith on July 28, 2019, 02:03:00 PM
Nice I like those middlehammer elves
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: Elk101 on July 28, 2019, 08:14:05 PM
Very cool, a different paintjob really gives them a different look.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: Blackwolf on July 28, 2019, 08:36:36 PM
Cracking work!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: Mason on July 29, 2019, 08:48:08 AM
Thanks, chaps.
Much appreciated.
 :)

I think these fellas should blend in fairly well as I reckon they look like 'young' Elves, which I see as being just right for skirmishers with the 'older' Elves being more suited to working in a more drilled way.
Well, that is my rationale anyway.
 ;)

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Scouts painted (28/07)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 29, 2019, 08:56:18 AM
Missed this before. Great stuff mate  8)
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Further conversion WIP (12/08)
Post by: Mason on August 12, 2019, 07:20:44 PM
Missed this before. Great stuff mate  8)

Cheers, mate.
 :)

I have made some progress on the further 'regimental' modifications to the spear armed troops and a 'Guard' armed with a halbard. Still a little more to do but getting there, nonetheless....

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-120819201406.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-120819201452.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Further conversion WIP (12/08)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on August 13, 2019, 07:41:14 AM
Great project concept. Really love your greenstuff sculpting.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Further conversion WIP (12/08)
Post by: Mason on August 14, 2019, 10:45:51 AM
Great project concept. Really love your greenstuff sculpting.

Thank you, sir.
I am enjoying this project and aim to have each regiment be individual whilst still keep a 'uniform' look to the army as a whole.

The chap on the right is heavily influenced by this Dark Elf....

(http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/thumb/8/8b/DE06.jpg/481px-DE06.jpg)

...who has always been a favourite of mine and will be leading the unit of that type.

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Basic conversions/sculpts finished (23/08)
Post by: Mason on August 23, 2019, 10:47:31 PM
The first five conversions/sculpts that will form the basis of the army have now been finished...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-230819234114.jpeg)



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/4805-230819234219.jpeg)

The chap with the big chopper in the centre will be the main figure for the Guard Regiment, while the one on the far left will also see service in my OGAM Greek force as the body for a unit of Amazons serving as the bodyguard of Athena.

Now I just need to make a few different shields....

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Basic conversions/sculpts finished (23/08)
Post by: Gallahad on August 24, 2019, 02:52:53 PM
I really like your color scheme and painting on those woodelf scouts.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Basic conversions/sculpts finished (23/08)
Post by: grant on August 26, 2019, 01:13:44 AM
Really good looking stuff, the Elric series was always a favourite of mine.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: Basic conversions/sculpts finished (23/08)
Post by: Mason on August 26, 2019, 09:26:56 AM
Thanks, chaps.
 :)

Hoping to get a few shields done this week and then that is the first stage finished.


Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Mason on October 21, 2019, 11:17:14 PM
The first unit of spears has been assembled, using a mix of old skool and modern hooded heads, with some quick and dirty lowered green stuff hoods added to those without them.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/4805-221019061318.jpeg)




(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/4805-221019001026.jpeg)

They should start to get some paint thrown in their general direction tomorrow.

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Blackwolf on October 21, 2019, 11:42:25 PM
Looking brilliant Paul :-*
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Racticas on September 16, 2020, 01:19:28 PM
Sorry for necromancing this thread, but I'm really excited to find this!  I've been slowly grinding away at a Warhammer High Elf-based Melnibonean army since the mid-1990's and just pulled it out again to convert to a Kings of War force.

I agree that the text doesn't give us much information on the military side of things other than the bronze armor and the color yellow.  There is also some language that Elric was wearing yellow and gray early on in the first book, which suggests to me that those were some kind of royal colors.  Beyond that, we get clues from Elric's black armor which I give to the Dragon Princes as well.

Beyond those clues, I have tried (with varying levels of success) to capture the sort of colorless pallette from the 60's and 70's book covers so the army "feels" right.  But I'm also a big fan of the Dreaming City graphic novel, which depicts Melnibonean style as somewhat garish.  So my approach has been yellow tunics, dark bronze armor, with muted but high contrast secondary tones (white, black, brown, gray) and the occasional brightly colored sash or feather (red, fuschia, wine, or pthalo green).  I'll post pics if there is interest.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Mason on September 16, 2020, 01:43:52 PM
Racticus: Please do post pictures as I would love to see them.
 :)

This project has really stalled in the 'painting' department, but I have still been adding to it.
Maybe this post will prompt me into getting that first spear unit finished, at least they have some colour on them already so I have a head start....

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Racticas on September 16, 2020, 03:43:14 PM
Here’s a handful I grabbed up.  I’ll post more when I get them all pulled out and better organized!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Mason on September 16, 2020, 04:09:56 PM
 :o :o :o

Wow!
They look amazing!

The use of that Mordheim fella is inspired, I may have to steal that idea.
Gotta love that plaid too!
 :-* :-*

Here’s a handful I grabbed up.  I’ll post more when I get them all pulled out and better organized!

You should start your own thread as they certainly deserve it.
(And not put mine to shame too!  ;) )

Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Captain Blood on September 16, 2020, 04:22:38 PM
Wonderful work on the plaid cloak  :o :-*

You'd better hand this thread over Pablo  ;) lol
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on September 16, 2020, 06:17:33 PM
Here’s a handful I grabbed up.  I’ll post more when I get them all pulled out and better organized!

Wow!
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Elk101 on September 16, 2020, 09:41:57 PM
Excellent painting but that cloak is something else! Cracking work. Please do start your own thread
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on September 17, 2020, 01:29:20 AM
Great work! Definitely deserves its own thread.
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Roo on September 17, 2020, 05:49:15 AM
Wow they are sweeet as! That cloak 😳😳.

More please
Title: Re: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
Post by: Melnibonean on September 30, 2020, 06:09:15 AM
Looking good. Those old Citadel elves look great and I use to own many of them in years gone by.
You'd think with my member name I should have noticed your thread previously. I'll have to keep an eye out now.