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Title: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 19, 2015, 01:40:24 AM
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I've been away from gaming (not by choice) for a while, and necessity required me to sell the bulk of my collection of figures. I'm trying to find a project to get back into, and I think that right now, solo gaming is going to be my only option. I'm not even certain if I will be able to manage that, but for now I am working on painting figures and adapting rules as time allows. Mind you, I have never done any solo gaming before, so this will involve a lot of experimentation.

Project Background: In addition to various odds & ends that remain in my collection, I still have about 90% of my WFB Marienburg (Empire-ish) army. Thus, I'm going with a fantasy project. I figure that an undead-ish nemesis would make a good "programmed" opponent for solo gaming. While I had started with the idea of an alternate Warhammer setting, what I'm ending up with is more like my own setting that happens to have some similarities to the Warhammer setting. My plan is to build a narrative and fight a campaign. I'm drawing a bit of inspiration from the old WFB campaign packs (Lichemaster, McDeath, etc.) Not in terms of the particulars, just the nostalgia for gaming a narrative campaign. Who knows, I may even end up creating my own humble campaign pack in that vein. I will not be using Warhammer rules (more on that later.)

Any feedback/suggestions/criticism on either gaming or painting is always welcomed.

I will start filling in the details in future updates. But since I know everyone comes here for the pictures, I will stop babbling and post a few of the things I’ve painted recently. (I'll post more pics of older, previously painted figures later.) These generally fall into two categories: finally finishing half-painted figures from years ago, or starting on minis for their undead-ish opponents.

I plan on keeping almost all of the undeadish army in dull, desaturated colors to contrast the more flamboyant mercenaries.
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Post by: Argonor on February 19, 2015, 01:45:20 AM
Nice, crisp painting!  :)
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Post by: DeafNala on February 19, 2015, 01:49:30 AM
Your creations are WONDERFUL. The colors, vibrant or subdued, are BEAUTIFUL & fit the subjects perfectly. The brushwork is OUTSTANDING! VERY WELL DONE!
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Post by: PatrickWR on February 19, 2015, 02:51:57 AM
Oooh, spicy miniatures. Great concept for solo gaming...I'll be interested to see where this goes!
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Post by: The Red Graf on February 19, 2015, 02:58:35 AM
Wonderful painting, can't wait to see what comes next.

One question- Fourth picture down what is the female miniature second from the left in black and gold?
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Post by: Skrapwelder on February 19, 2015, 03:04:53 AM
Very well done! Your dark troops are exquisite. What company makes the lady with the crow?
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 19, 2015, 03:51:50 AM
Thank you, everyone!

One question- Fourth picture down what is the female miniature second from the left in black and gold?

I can't remember. It was part of a give-away bag that I got at a convention. I think it may be from Reaper. The sculpting looks like Werner Klocke's work.



Very well done! Your dark troops are exquisite. What company makes the lady with the crow?

Wargames Foundry's Ancient German Women set.

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Post by: hjorhrafn on February 19, 2015, 04:26:24 AM
Do you happen to remember where the blonde lass with the big anthropomorphic sword comes from?  I don't think I've seen that model before, but she would fit into one of my warbands quite well. 

I really like the almost monochromatic look you have for the undead.  Very cool. 
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Post by: Jevenkah on February 19, 2015, 04:30:12 AM
Beautiful paintjobs!

I particularly like what you've done with the undeadish folks' eyes. They are creepy!

Jevenkah
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Post by: The Red Graf on February 19, 2015, 04:30:26 AM
Do you happen to remember where the blonde lass with the big anthropomorphic sword comes from?  I don't think I've seen that model before, but she would fit into one of my warbands quite well. 

I really like the almost monochromatic look you have for the undead.  Very cool. 

I think she's a Celtos miniature.
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Post by: Vanvlak on February 19, 2015, 05:56:13 AM
Wow, those are grand - Marienburghers, orcs AND the undeadish  8) 8) 8)
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Post by: Mason on February 19, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
Beautiful brushwork and the tones on the Undead are sublime.
 :-* :-*

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Post by: RichyBee on February 19, 2015, 09:40:33 AM
holy crap o_o those ancient germans(???) look bloody amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: von Lucky on February 19, 2015, 10:12:44 AM
Yeah - I'm impressed. And they contrast nicely with the rest.
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Post by: Fates Fickle Finger on February 19, 2015, 10:28:27 AM
 :-* :-* :-* :-* Nice stuff, look forward to see what's next!

FFF
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Post by: blacksoilbill on February 19, 2015, 10:39:51 AM
Colour scheme on the not quite dead is excellent! And the quality on them all is outstanding.
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Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 19, 2015, 10:53:27 AM
Wonderfull colours on these. The undeadish guys work really well - very effective.
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Post by: Timbor on February 19, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Nice to see you posting on here 023.  Always love your work!
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Post by: Funghy-Fipps on February 19, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
Always pleasing to see an interesting concept executed with skill. Looking forward to seeing more.
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Post by: Rob_bresnen on February 19, 2015, 03:43:00 PM
I thought the marrienburgers were well tasty, then I saw the undeadish!!! proper lovely!
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Post by: Dr. Kevin Moon III esq. on February 19, 2015, 04:53:40 PM
Love the undead.
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Post by: Blue in vt on February 19, 2015, 05:04:44 PM
Nice to see you back in action 023!!  Your painting has always been an inspiration and the these all look great...

...though I have to agree that the undeadish are a wonderfully original idea well executed....I love them!

Cheers,

Blue
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Post by: area23 on February 19, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
The undead are really nice.
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Post by: beefcake on February 20, 2015, 12:36:37 AM
Love the undeadish. Nice painting.
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Post by: Suber on February 20, 2015, 08:21:17 AM
Hey, these are pretty nice indeed! The colour choices are excellent, and the work is outstanding :o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2015, 06:15:20 AM
Thanks everyone!

I have painted up a prototype for some Ogres that have also been turned.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gfgprotowip_zpsraqxtdso.jpg)


I was just digging around for my WFB 3rd ed. rulebook and I'm really annoyed/upset that I can't seem to find it.

Rulebook update: I found my 3rd ed. book, along with all of the older Empire army books, 1/2 of the 5th ed. rules, plus 6th & 7th, and How to Build Wargames Terrain! But not before I rushed off and put a hasty bid in on a 3rd ed. book on eBay...  :|
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Post by: beefcake on February 21, 2015, 06:19:14 AM
Great ogre. If you are going to do full undead as well ral Partha europe have some great undead ogres.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2015, 01:15:28 PM
Great ogre. If you are going to do full undead as well ral Partha europe have some great undead ogres.

Thanks, I've been looking for some skeletal ogres (and other races) and haven't had any success. Indo wish they 8ndivated how big they are. Still, I will add these to my "wish list."
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Post by: DeafNala on February 21, 2015, 01:20:40 PM
The hunched, twisted posture of the Ogre along with your evocative color choices really give him a Living Impaired feel...that sounded unpleasant enough. GREAT brushwork & figure selection. VERY WELL DONE!
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Post by: Patsuriku on February 22, 2015, 12:57:26 AM
I love the concept of those undeadish, they're really creepy. How will you base them?
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Post by: stone-cold-lead on February 22, 2015, 01:00:04 AM
Sweet! That ogre is the nuts!  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2015, 03:46:30 AM

Thanks again for the comments & compliments!

I love the concept of those undeadish, they're really creepy. How will you base them?

I need to experiment a bit, but it will be similar to the Marienburgers, since they will be used against each other and on matching terrain. I'm going to try a few minor variations to compliment the figures.
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Post by: beefcake on February 22, 2015, 05:15:49 AM
Thanks, I've been looking for some skeletal ogres (and other races) and haven't had any success. Indo wish they 8ndivated how big they are. Still, I will add these to my "wish list."
I've got some of them. I think I have one painted on a thread here. I'll link you to it.

Unfortunately it's with dwarfs and they are rather small. I'll see if I can get a scale shot with something more human.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=47197.msg879644#msg879644
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Post by: Argonor on February 22, 2015, 06:34:59 PM
Thanks, I've been looking for some skeletal ogres (and other races) and haven't had any success. Indo wish they 8ndivated how big they are. Still, I will add these to my "wish list."

I have a compilation of links to undead non-humans on my blog

(near the bottom of http://argonor-wargames.blogspot.dk/p/my-favourite-links.html)

no ogres, though. Would a giant skeleton with a few alterations do?
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Post by: white knight on February 22, 2015, 06:53:52 PM
Ral Partha Europe have two skeletal ogres in the DSA range.

(http://www.frothersunite.com/files/wk/sc/skel/skel1/imag/Armalion_Skeleton_Ogre_1_f.jpg) (http://www.frothersunite.com/files/wk/sc/skel/skel1/imag/Armalion_Skeleton_Ogre_2_f.jpg)
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 23, 2015, 04:04:45 AM
Thanks for the pics, they're on my "wish list."


I have a compilation of links to undead non-humans on my blog

(near the bottom of http://argonor-wargames.blogspot.dk/p/my-favourite-links.html)

no ogres, though. Would a giant skeleton with a few alterations do?

Very nice, thanks! I will have to add the Scotia Grendel skeleton orcs & some stuff from Battlezone are now on my "wish list" too! Titan Forge stuff was cool, but not really the style I'm after.



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 28, 2015, 04:29:38 AM
I've been working on 800 things at once, so I've got some more figures started, but nothing quite finished yet. But a lot of the undeadish are coming together on the painting table...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/biguishwip02_zpsuoaagjhz.jpg)

After I finish this batch, I will do a small group of cavalry to go with them, followed by a boatload of basing. Then I believe I will wrap up some odds & ends.

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Post by: hjorhrafn on February 28, 2015, 04:34:53 AM
That Reaper giant looks fantastic from what I can see.  Can we get a better shot of it at your convenience?
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Post by: Abbner Home on February 28, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
Wow - I literally exclaimed aloud when I saw the deadish. My kids ran over and they declared it cool.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 28, 2015, 02:09:00 PM
Thanks!

I will post better, individual pics of the giant (and the rest) as I finish.
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Post by: Steam Flunky on February 28, 2015, 02:13:33 PM
Just keeps getting better. The monochrome look is a great idea and its beautifully carried out!
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Post by: Lowtardog on February 28, 2015, 02:35:13 PM
Champion colours
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Post by: DeafNala on February 28, 2015, 02:35:40 PM
Even as W.I.P. pieces, the Mostly Dead are WONDERFULLY evocative creations. The monochromatic look with spots of color reminds me of cinematic effects in Sin City. GREAT WORK!
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Post by: Vermis on February 28, 2015, 03:15:35 PM
Excellent stuff. :)
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Post by: Lawful Evil on February 28, 2015, 11:51:12 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/draintest02_zpsqjf743pw.jpg)

Can anyone tell me what minis these are? They look familiar, and I feel like I should know, but I can't place them.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 01, 2015, 12:08:43 AM
Ancient Germans from Wargames Foundry and Crusader Miniatures.
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Post by: Lawful Evil on March 01, 2015, 12:17:34 AM
Thanks mate, inspired painting, btw.
I'll be painted a group of 'Eaters of the Dead' and seeing how effective a limited colour palate is has been a big help.
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Post by: killshot on March 01, 2015, 05:02:29 AM
Excellent idea and execution!  This is definitely a project to watch unfold.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 02, 2015, 02:30:56 AM
Mostly finished the giant, though I think I may go back and clean up that awful mold line I missed (and one other small one that's not visible) and then touch up the paint. She's a Reaper Bones figure, and the first I've worked on. The figures seem nice, but my two complaints are the mold lines -- which seem more numerous and prominent than on metal or traditional plastic figures -- and the bendy weapons. I did fix the latter, but somehow one end slowly bent itself back out of shape.

I'm including three figures for scale comparison. I had initially thought the Reaper giants were a bit small. They are smaller than many of the competition. But after painting this one, I'm actually thinking I prefer their size & proportions to many of the others. I might have to pick up some others. The sculpts look really good.

Again... basing will be done in a big lot, after I've finished some more figures.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/deadish3lv_zpsvjoxdk5q.jpg)
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Post by: DeafNala on March 02, 2015, 02:57:24 AM
The Ladies of Varying Size &  the Relatively Big Guy are TRULY SINISTER. Your color schemes & deft brushwork are achieving some OUTSTANDING cinematic results. VERY WELL DONE indeed!
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Post by: warburton on March 02, 2015, 03:18:23 AM
Excellent project!  :-*
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Post by: hjorhrafn on March 03, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Oh, the big girl looks the business.  That is probably my favorite giant sculpt, and I never would have thought to paint it like this.  Wonderful stuff. 
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Post by: Duke Donald on March 03, 2015, 01:01:01 AM
This thread is great. I always had a soft spot for Marienburg, and one day I'd like to finish my own Marienburg -DoW army. The undead-ish are inspired.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 05, 2015, 06:16:56 AM
Finished more of the undeadish horde, this is a shot of all of the infantry I've got so far. Twelve 40mmx40mm bases worth. Most with 4 figures, a couple only fit 3. Sorry, not the best pic.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/draintest03_zpsnkxkcset.jpg)


The Game

I keep meaning to elaborate on the gaming side of things. As I mentioned at the start, my current plan is for solo gaming. I'm going to work out the solo part myself, but will be adapting an existing set of wargaming rules. There are a few that I would like to try (and may give several of them a shot) but initially I'm going to use Crusader's Legions of Battle (http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/LegionsofBattle.php).

Based on the campaign/narrative concepts I've been planning, I've written down a quick first draft roster of troop stats (I hesitate to call them "army lists") for the two antagonists. Like the solo rules, I'm sure these will be a constant work in progress.

I will add the rosters and my initial thoughts on solo rules in the near future.

And more painted figures, of course. I'm going to finish those ogres, then paint up some cavalry, and that should give me a good starting point for small trial games using the... undeadish? (I still need to come up with some names for things, people, etc. I'm still internally referring to these guys as undeadish or deadish.) I have some other "bad guy" troops already painted that will probably get recruited to the cause, too. Some re-basing may be required. That's something I'm not really looking forward to.
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Post by: DeafNala on March 05, 2015, 12:46:58 PM
The Mostly Dead Guys look SPLENDIDLY creepy. GREAT WORK!
As an occasional solo gamer, I'm interested in how your game develops.
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Post by: Elbows on March 05, 2015, 01:42:01 PM
Easily the best/coolest "undead-ish" stuff I've seen.  The colour palette (or lack thereof?) is delicious.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 09, 2015, 04:27:21 AM
Thanks again!

A bit more about the concept of the forces involved.



Robo the Necromancer

Robo is just my "placeholder name" for the solo/programmed undead opponent. This is the mysterious C-in-C, who will for now will remain out of the picture. Or off the battlefield, at least. That will leave various subordinates commanding in the field. Field armies may have several commanders, each in charge of their "brigade." So to begin with, I will define several subcommander archetypes, which will mostly determine the composition of their forces, but maybe to a certain extent will also determine their leadership capabilities as well. I think most of these will be unique, except there will be multiple Military Animators. Possibly more than one Spiritual Enslaver.

1. Military Animator: Animates undead troops, which are directly controlled by the leader, in a militaristic style. These will form the backbone (haha) of Robo's forces, and will be composed of typical skeleton infantry & cavalry.

2. Spiritual Enslaver: A manipulative leader, controlling the undeadish, magically bound slave troops I've been painting. Infantry & Cavalry of formerly independent humans and other races.

3. Agent Provocateur: Scheming necromancer who destabilizes towns/cities, then animates the dead into mobs of zombies. Since the Agent is more a social manipulator than military leader, this explains why the zombies are masses of sloppy, meaty dead compared to the more reliable skeletal troops of the Military Animators.

4. Vermin Lord: Allies. I have some Skaven and other rat themed figures. I like them, want to use them, and think vermin fit well with the undead. I have enough to justify their own "brigade" and commander. This is not a GW Vermin Lord, but I do like the name.


Other hazy concepts under consideration: Etherialist, Beastmaster, Constructor, Besieger. Maybe those last two are combined into an Engineer. Perhaps more on that later.

Also under consideration are individual mercenary or slave units that may show up in any/some of the brigades above, as individuals, or maybe together in a sort of "evil dogs of war" type mercenary brigade. This is entirely based on either figures I already have, or things I may want to get & paint up for whatever reason. So far this could include (from my existing collection) Greater & Lesser Goblins, Myconids, and maybe Greater & Lesser Troglodytes.



Armies of Marienburg

This started off with an existing WFB army that was loosely based on the setting's Marienbug, but I'm leaving WFB and it's background far behind. There will still be similarities, though. So it will be an independent city state with a mixed relationship with the empire (or shattered empire...) that it was once part of. It's a wealthy city state, and it's forces are mercenary based. I will have less distinct brigade types. Most will be mixed. I will keep the diverse racial composition. But I do have a couple of distinct brigades.

1. Mercenary. The core of the army, diverse troop types.

2. City Militia. Only present in armies directly defending the city and immediate environs.

3. Rural Militia. Local defenders in the hinterland. Decided to include these because of some scenario ideas.

3. Allies. I have the remains of a small 3rd ed. Wood Elf army. May as well use it on occasion. May end up with other allied brigades in the future, but this is the only one I foresee at the moment. They seem like an easy fit for my concepts, campaign ideas, etc. Similar situation to Skaven, above.



And just because I hate to post without at least a photo of something, here's some of the assembly & cleanup work going on for the next stage. More rank & file for the necromancer, and a few reinforcements to round out at unit of mercenaries for the Marienburgers.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wipprewip01_zpsflfbnqgt.jpg)
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 13, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
Got a little distracted and skipped ahead of my own plans/schedule. Tested out a few paint & wash combos on some skeletons.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skeletest01_zpseuycwzxg.jpg)


I'm looking for some armored skeletons to use for elites. Preferably heavily armored.

If there aren't any actual undead to fit what I'm looking for, I've been contemplating a few different historical ranges and then swapping some of the helmets for skulls and "roughing up" some of the other equipment.
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Post by: Earther on March 13, 2015, 05:51:01 PM
Take a look at Otherworld's skeletons - http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/product-category/undead/ (http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/product-category/undead/)

(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/armouredskeletons2paint1.jpg)

 :D
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 13, 2015, 06:12:02 PM
Thanks. I like Otherworld, but they're out of my price range.

To elaborate on what I'm looking for, I'm also hoping to get something that looks more like ancient undead foot knights. An option I've been considering is to just paint up some historical figures (Crusader's Teutonic foot knights, Perry dismounted men at arms, or something along those lines) after swapping out some of the helmets for skulls and roughing up the equipment a bit.

I hadn't considered this before, but I guess they don't even have to be "skeletal." I would still prefer a little more armor, but if I could get a unit of something like the figures below (also Otherworld) but at a price I could afford, I would really love that as an option!  ;D

(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/wraithspaint1.jpg)

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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 14, 2015, 12:33:08 AM

Speaking of armored skeletons, I recently won some old plastic skeletons on eBay. I wanted to bump up the numbers I already had. There were a few bonus metal minis in the box, an old mounted skeleton hero/knight, a necromancer with a busted sword, and these five guys.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skels_zpssr6fpiux.jpg)

Pretty cool. Though now I want a full unit of oldschool metal skeletons. (And more variety...)
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Post by: Argonor on March 14, 2015, 08:45:07 PM
Bice results on the 'naked' bones, What washes did you use?  :)
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Post by: Smith on March 16, 2015, 08:28:55 AM
I'm looking for some armored skeletons to use for elites. Preferably heavily armored.

Most heavily armoured skeletons that I can think of are Reaper's Barrow Wardens/Wights:

03220: Barrow Wardens (2)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03220_G.jpg)

03221: Barrow Warden Keeper
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03221_G.jpg)

03575: Barrow Wight Guardian
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03575_w_1.jpg)

They're all by the same sculptor, which is nice, but I'm not sure if they've got enough variety for your purposes.

A far cheaper option (but, again, one with the lack-of-variety issue) would be to get a sprue/box of GW's Chaos Warriors and drop a skeleton head on instead (picture found on http://maelstrom-therisingsign.blogspot.co.uk):

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t243/maelstrom___/Vampire%20counts/IMG_0788.jpg)

Finally, not a cheap option (first one is plastic, other two are metal), and very stylized:

(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/34110_BaneThrallsPlastic_WEB.jpg)
(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/34071_BaneThrallOffStndrdWEB.jpg)
(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/34101_BaneKnights_WEB.jpg)
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Post by: Grimmnar on March 16, 2015, 08:57:52 AM
I'm looking for some armored skeletons to use for elites. Preferably heavily armored.
I always liked this one.
http://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/file/view/thrall-warrior.png/409272500/thrall-warrior.png

Grimm
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: beefcake on March 16, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
I quite like some of the armoured skellies from RPE. http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Skeleton&x=0&y=0
Plus you can then get the undead ogres you need. ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: NurgleHH on March 16, 2015, 12:22:21 PM
Maybe you should take a box of the Perry-Knights and mix it with Mantic Skeletons?

@smith: The Reaper stuff looks a little bit like Undead Spacemarines.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on March 16, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
I think the mantic skeletons (or any other for that matter) would be way to large for perry minis.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Smith on March 16, 2015, 01:31:14 PM
@smith: The Reaper stuff looks a little bit like Undead Spacemarines.

The last one, especially!

Makes sense, though - these heroes of the past have died, and been buried in ridiculously impractical ceremonial armour. They've then been resurrected by evil magics that deny them both free will and the ability to change into something less garish...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: NurgleHH on March 17, 2015, 01:54:27 PM
I think the mantic skeletons (or any other for that matter) would be way to large for perry minis.
Did Wargames Factory made Skeletons? Will they fit? Or take the knights from an other plastic company with more heroic 28mm like Fireforge.
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Post by: Argonor on March 17, 2015, 08:55:02 PM
Did Wargames Factory made Skeletons? Will they fit? Or take the knights from an other plastic company with more heroic 28mm like Fireforge.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/myths-and-legends/wgf-ml002

Dirt cheap, but there is an issue with torso anatomy (which doesn't matter if you only want to use the skulls).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 19, 2015, 03:45:51 AM
Some good suggestions! Thanks, I'm going to take a closer look at just about all of those.

In the meantime, I still haven't finished the ogres, but I have almost finished the first batch of skeletons. I still need to finish the standard (stuck for an idea) and add one more skeleton to that same base, just behind the standard bearer. And basing, of course.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skele01_zpsk7k1wsad.jpg)
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Post by: DeafNala on March 19, 2015, 10:44:38 AM
The Evil Dead are LOOKIN' GOOD! The bone tones are BEAUTIFUL & your brushwork is OUTSTANDING as always. GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 28, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
Finished up a few more skeletons, and an overdue mercenary ogre for the Good Guys.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mog01b_zpspsenwnm0.jpg)

Gave him some ridiculously bright (more than usual) colors to break up the unit, which has a lot of reds & greens already. This makes six, which is what a good unit size for gaming. BUT, it's still one ogre short of having the full set.
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Post by: beefcake on March 28, 2015, 04:52:38 AM
Awesome. Love the old ogres. So characterful.
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Post by: DeafNala on March 28, 2015, 11:19:11 AM
The Old Ogre looks WONDERFUL in his flashy regalia; the bright colors appeal to moi. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2015, 04:50:16 AM
Thanks again! I'm a huge fan of those old ogres.

Speaking of ogres....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gfo01_zpsmoqfffl5.jpg)

Done painting. Once the bases are done, they should stand out a bit more.

Also finished a few more skeletons again, so here's a pic of the entire group so far.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skel02_zpsqbdzjsaj.jpg)
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2015, 05:43:58 AM
I'm still indecisive about the elite/armored skeletons. The two ideas at the top of my list are to either use Perry WotR Foot Knights and pack them 4 to a base like the regular infantry, or get some of those Warmachine Bane Thralls and put them 2 or 3 to a base, depending on how many will fit.

Neither is exactly what I am looking for, but I could work with them. I would prefer if the Perry figures were a little bigger (or I could find some beefier/"heroic"/fantasy equivalents at a similarly affordable price.) My biggest concern with the size is that they will be in the army with those giant GW skeletons I just posted. (I suppose I could trade those in for some smaller ones, in the future...) The Banethralls might be OK if I could tone down some of the more ridiculous design elements, like the giant shoulder plates and the iron fences they seem to be wearing on their backs. Since they are plastic, this might not be too hard to deal with.

The deciding factor may be the number of figures per base and the total number of bases I will get for the money. I would prefer the look of densely packed infantry, though I am willing to make concessions on that for the Thralls. However, if I can fit 3 per base, and my minimum unit size is 4 bases, I'm still short by 2 figures for just a single unit. On the other hand, a box of Perry figures will get me 8 bases with 4 figures each, and I would still have some left-overs for other projects.


Something else I'm thinking more seriously about now is a group of non-human skeletons. I made a few skeletal beastmen with the GW kit (not in pics yet) and just received a few of the old Cursed Company figures. I could even mix in a few "normal" skeletons as some non-humans might still look pretty similar to humans when all their meat is removed. I still like those Ral Partha skeletal beastmen & ogres suggested earlier. But I'm still on a tight budget and looking to "get the most bang for my buck," so I am focusing on the things I can do with smaller cash outlay.


What I should really finish next is some cavalry. I have some Undeadish (more Germans) and some GW Black Knights to clean, assemble, and paint. I'd also like to paint that Colossal Skeleton from Reaper, but I haven't decided if/how to replace the big weapon (like a hammer made from a gravestone) and possibly do a bit of re-posing.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 01, 2015, 05:01:02 AM
Still thinking about this and thought I would do a quick & rough touch-up on the manufacturer's photo to see what some subtle changes might do to those Bane Thrall figures....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/thrallmod_zps8acv90wc.jpg)

Better, but I'm still undecided. Giant shoulder plates are sooooo '90s. (Seriously, what was with all the giant shoulder plates on fantasu miniatures in the '90s?) Maybe I should just get some anyway, paint them up and if I really don't like them I can sell/trade for a different option.

Further consideration... I will be adding more "regular" skeletons eventually, and they will likely be smaller figures than those hulking old GW figures. Maybe I am making more out of the scale difference compared to the Perry foot knights than I need to.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: beefcake on April 01, 2015, 05:04:24 AM
I think someone else may have already suggested it but have you thought of red box games wraiths? I do t know if they are still available though. I can't see them on the website.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 01, 2015, 05:18:30 AM
I found a pic of those and went looking for them. In some ways, I like them better than these guys above. But as you said, they don't seem to be in the shop. Probably a good chance they would be out of my budget anyway. (I hate having to say that, and would love to throw money at independent sculptors producing awesome work. But unfortunately I can't afford to do that anymore.)
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Post by: von Lucky on April 01, 2015, 09:14:06 AM
Regarding the comment on 90's shoulder pads - I realise now that was 20 years ago.

I feel so old. (And yes, it was a silly fad.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: beefcake on April 01, 2015, 10:38:32 AM
I found a pic of those and went looking for them. In some ways, I like them better than these guys above. But as you said, they don't seem to be in the shop. Probably a good chance they would be out of my budget anyway. (I hate having to say that, and would love to throw money at independent sculptors producing awesome work. But unfortunately I can't afford to do that anymore.)
From noble knight games. Quite expensive though, $30ish for 6
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Smith on April 01, 2015, 12:27:39 PM
Actually, from what I've seen, the shoulder pads are separate, and could feasibly be left off... There are some useful shots at this page:

http://losthemisphere.com/wp/2014/01/bane-thralls-plastic-resculpt/

Some work might be needed to remove the plugs on the model's shoulders (or they could simply be cleaned up and painted to match the armour).

The back spikes appear to connect with a small plug - my guess is the hole that would leave in the back of the armour could either be easily ignored or filled with a little nub of greenstuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 01, 2015, 04:14:53 PM
Regarding the comment on 90's shoulder pads - I realise now that was 20 years ago.

I feel so old. (And yes, it was a silly fad.)

One of the funniest things I read about that fad was someone's description of a theoretical encounter between two opposing forces in which one side gets the others to raise their arms slightly and knock themselves out with their giant shoulder gear. Game over.  lol


From noble knight games. Quite expensive though, $30ish for 6

Doesn't seem unreasonable. But unfortunately I think I'm still going to have to pass for now.


Actually, from what I've seen, the shoulder pads are separate, and could feasibly be left off... There are some useful shots at this page:

http://losthemisphere.com/wp/2014/01/bane-thralls-plastic-resculpt/

Some work might be needed to remove the plugs on the model's shoulders (or they could simply be cleaned up and painted to match the armour).

The back spikes appear to connect with a small plug - my guess is the hole that would leave in the back of the armour could either be easily ignored or filled with a little nub of greenstuff.

Thanks for that link, I've been looking for something like that! Much better idea of what they're like now. The back spikes should be no problem, as I expected. The shoulders look more involved than I thought they would be. I didn't expect those big plugs. Maybe I could cut them off & put something more modest sized over the top. I may end up just having to pick up a box and see how it works out in the flesh plastic.

(Don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I dig the El Panda avatar!)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Skrapwelder on April 02, 2015, 01:26:33 AM
Have you seen the RAFM Dream Warrior army box?

(http://www.rafm.com/images/product/FBS/02008.jpg)

http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02008&Category_Code=rafboxgame (http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02008&Category_Code=rafboxgame)
Small image, only one I could find
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Smith on April 02, 2015, 09:32:53 AM
Thanks for that link, I've been looking for something like that! Much better idea of what they're like now. The back spikes should be no problem, as I expected. The shoulders look more involved than I thought they would be. I didn't expect those big plugs. Maybe I could cut them off & put something more modest sized over the top. I may end up just having to pick up a box and see how it works out in the flesh plastic.

(Don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I dig the El Panda avatar!)

Just a thought, but if the plugs were clipped off/filed down, you could look at the Kroot sprue from GW for shoulderpads:

(http://www.federicobellucci.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/kroot-warriors1.png)

They're slightly curved, so I'm eyeballing it a little, but they might be enough to cover the plug area. No idea how the two plastics go together, mind you - when in doubt, superglue, I guess!

Glad you like El Panda - Lucha Libre is one of my favourite comics!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 04, 2015, 05:00:16 AM
I painted a couple of test undeadish cavalry. Not sure if I want to go with light horses, dark horses, or a mix of both...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/unishcavtest01_zpsqe89dkzb.jpg)
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Post by: beefcake on April 04, 2015, 05:49:11 AM
Very cool. I lke the light ones.. no the dark ones... No the light ones. Go for both, Maybe the odd mid grey as well?
Where are these ones from?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: von Lucky on April 04, 2015, 08:00:33 AM
I'd go with a 3 tones mix too. All white would look a little bright (and horses are usually coloured in mid earthy colours).
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Post by: Mad Doc Morris on April 04, 2015, 09:53:03 AM
There's some seriously good painting going on here, mixed with a lot of ingenious ideas – excellent project! :-*
Re the horses: Are these horses meant to be undead as well? If so, I like the light tone for its ghostly appearance and also for a bit of contrast. The dark one looks more menacing, of course. But I would add a bit of colour, maybe classical red glowing eyes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: kidterminal on April 04, 2015, 07:07:20 PM
The light horses, the blacks are nice but the light horses have the not dead feel.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 07, 2015, 06:08:14 PM
While I make up my mind about the horse colors, I decided to finally base & varnish some of what I've recently painted. I decided to stick with the same style base as almost everything else I've got. At some point I will paint something on the banner.

I have been contemplating whether I want to rebase my individual Marienburg figures onto 40mmx40mm bases like these. I've never been a fan of individual based figures for mass combat games. But I'm also not a fan of extra basing work.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skele01_zpskvzsudwj.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/undeadish01_zpsfabyfhdb.jpg)
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Post by: DeafNala on April 07, 2015, 06:43:25 PM
The mass effect is striking; the Pale Warriors may actually look spookier than the Skeletal Ones. OUTSTANDING WORK!
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 07, 2015, 07:01:40 PM
Cracking paint work all round, I particulary like the undead celts  8)

A small suggestion though would be to weather the bronze work a bit more, at the moment they look a bit clean  :)

cheers

James
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Post by: kidterminal on April 08, 2015, 01:51:37 AM
The 40x40mm bases look very good they give that evil masses feel. Your Marienburgers have inspired me to finish off some of my old Mordheim figures.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 09, 2015, 01:54:05 AM
Thanks!

The reason the Undeadish humans look a bit clean is that my concept has them still being alive enough and possessing enough independent will to take care of themselves, unlike the skeletons & other decaying animated dead.


Setting

I am starting to lean towards a medium-low fantasy concept, or at least something less than the Warhammer world. I've actually been thinking about a setting quite a bit and finally did decide to completely part ways with Warhammer. I think the major fantasy elements will be:

Non-human but "humanoid" races. At this point, in the part of the world in which my campaign will be set, it will be mostly humans, with ogres, and small numbers of giants, great orcs, and swamp goblins. There used to be elves, but as far as anyone knows, they're all dead. Rumors of other races in far flung places. Some may be introduced as part of the narrative.

Undead. Obviously. But this is a new & foreign thing, as far as my Marienburgers are concerned.

Magic. Mostly rare and powerful, and manifesting itself through items and creatures rather than mages flinging fireballs at each other on a battlefield.

Fantastic beasts. See previous item.

The divine. Divine intervention will be about as common as in the real world.

Technology will be mixed. I'm still attached to the Empire & renaissance, so gunpowder, pikes, etc. will be around, but I will probably be leaving out any steam tanks or robo-horses. Navigation & ship-building will be slightly less advanced.

I've quickly sketched out a first, (very rough) draft of a map-like thing. The highlighted area is where the action will happen, centering on the city of Marienburg  and the surrounding hinterland.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/Map01e_zpsf92acpqq.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: kidterminal on April 10, 2015, 03:56:43 AM
Sounds like a great background its time to break away from the Warhammer world anyway.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Alxbates on April 10, 2015, 11:31:39 AM
I love everything about this project.

Ogres, undead-ish, grayscale paintjobs, it's all so great!

Awesome work!   :-* :-*

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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 12, 2015, 05:51:45 AM

Thanks!



I have started putting together a box of the current plastic GW undead black knights. As I’ve been working on them, a few thoughts have crossed my mind. I haven’t put together any of their kits in a long time, so nothing they've done in the past few years or more.

They are really nice models. If the rumors of GW focusing on being a company that produces nice models for hobbyists and collectors first, and a game company second (or fifty-second….) are true, then I think that’s probably not a bad plan. While I have enjoyed a number of their games, I don’t think it’s their strong point. Especially recently, and especially at the insane prices to get the rules.

They take forever to clean & assemble. At least more time than someone like me wants to put into it. By that I mean, someone who wants a table full of nice painted models to play some big battle games, but can’t devote their life to it. I suppose you get out of it what you put into it. As I said, they do look great so far. But I am starting to grow weary of assembling plastic figures.

WTF is with GW and putting flaming braziers on everything, especially HEADS? Are “brazierz” the new “skullz”?

Pics when they're done. That might be a while...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 14, 2015, 05:34:49 AM
While digging around through old boxes, I came across this. I had intended to use it for my old Skaven army, but it will work just as well (better?) with the undead!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/callwip01_zpski6uscfy.jpg)
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Post by: beefcake on April 14, 2015, 05:36:01 AM
Very nice. Can't wait to see it painted up!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 17, 2015, 02:15:11 AM
I stole a series of 5 & 10 minute breaks throughout the last few days to put some paint and a series of washes/glazes on the Caller's beast. This is a bit of a new technique to me -- I've been using it to an extent on all of the undead, but for decades I've been more of layering & blending style painter, and have stayed away from doing many washes. But I'm learning to love it!

However, I've got mixed feelings on how this particular figure turned out. It's not really a subject that should be too colorful, but also felt like it needed a bit more color than the washed out look of most of the rest of what I've done. Hopefully it doesn't look too out of place once the army is filled out.

While I was basing it up, I also finished the base on a previously painted Undeadish giant.

For reference, the giant is on a 50x50 base, the Caller's beast (I need a new name for it) is on a 50x100.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/unbigun01_zpsrdgjuscj.jpg)
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Post by: von Lucky on April 17, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Grim Squeaker's (the Death of Rats) mother? Love it.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: kidterminal on April 17, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
I love washes too. Th beast does look rather colorful next to the undeadish it might need more grey. The giant still looks awesome.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Little Odo on April 17, 2015, 09:26:41 PM
No need to change a thing - they both look absolutely fantastic  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 19, 2015, 05:58:23 AM
This has been discussed earlier in the thread, but.... Earlier this week I received a box of Warmachine Bane Thralls. I've been looking for an option for some armored "elite" skeletal troops. I had been considering a few different ideas, and these were on the list but I kept resisting because I think the shoulder plates (pauldron?) look ridiculous, as do the bits of someone's iron fence they are wearing on their backs. The latter are easily left off. I had considered clipping the shoulders, too, as illustrated by my quick photoshoppery to test the idea...


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/thrallmod_zps8acv90wc.jpg)


So now that they're in my possession, I can see that the square "pads" on which the separate shoulder plates sit might look like decent, if someone bland, armor plates on their own, with the exception of the "champion" figure who is designed completely differently. I could just leave his on, as above. Honestly, though, I think the plates look less ridiculous in person.


Other observations about these figures.... they are sold as "plastic" but they are not polystyrene. Maybe a lightweight, hard resin? Not sure the shoulder plates will be nearly as easy to trim down & clean up as if they had been polystyrene. The detail seems OK on most of the figure, but the skulls look pretty disappointing. I was already on the fence a bit when I saw close-ups of the skulls in photos. In person they are even more caricatured with pretty soft looking detail. Looks like there will be a little cleanup, hopefully this plastic isn't too tough to work with.

I'll withhold final judgement until I've actually worked on & painted these, but at first unboxing I find them a little disappointing given the regular retail price.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 19, 2015, 06:16:13 AM
After exploring the Oldhammer forum a bit more this week, I've started thinking about the idea of "remote gaming" as an alternative or supplement to solo gaming.

The concept would be that I would set up the battlefield, the figures, etc. and would play against a remote opponent by keeping a blog with updated photos of the table, use an online random number generator to get dice results, and would get instructions from my opponent that I would carry out on their behalf. This got me reconsidering Hail Caesar as the basis for a fantasy game, since the movement is somewhat loose, based on a verbal description, and partially dependent on dice. There would be little change from playing an in-person opponent other than me moving their figures for them.

So now I'm considering digging up an opponent and giving that a try.


Below is a pic of two older figures I finally based. The figure from the Confrontation range is quite a bit bigger, even when taking into account the larger base. But between that and his proportions, I think he might make a good partner for the old GW "Death Elemental" that I will be painting up sometime (hopefully) soon.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/2char01_zpshrbir5r8.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on April 19, 2015, 06:34:36 AM
Brilliant stuff as ever!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: kidterminal on April 19, 2015, 06:02:14 PM
Too bad about the warmachine figures but some of their stuff is disappointing considering their prices. This remove opponent idea sounds great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 21, 2015, 04:10:15 AM
Fortunately I like the bodies and oversized axes enough to still be happy with those figures. I can work on the skulls & shoulders a bit...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: beefcake on April 21, 2015, 06:15:29 AM
How about buying some skulls. Ral Partha sells them for 1 pound for a dozen skulls I think in the DSA range. I have them and they look really good.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 22, 2015, 03:16:04 AM
I'm in the US. I tried getting some skulls a while ago.

I tried ordering both the Max Mini and Origen Art skulls from Fantization, but after they took payment I never heard anything from them and  my order had never shipped. After they ignored several emails, I called and was told that both were out of stock, and I they didn't really have a clear answer as to when/if they would be restocked. So I asked for a refund, which I was told they would do. A few more weeks of waiting for a refund that never appeared, and more ignored emails, I finally got the refund by filing a dispute with PayPal. A bit of a shame, they carry a lot of cool stuff. But between taking payment without having stock, not telling customers that they are out of stock, and then the awful customer service on a relatively simple matter... I don't think I will be ordering from them again.

I had looked around on eBay, but have been distracted by other things, so never ordered anything. But I did just place an order for these:

http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=47_55&products_id=230

(http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/images/bits/CB1016-SackOSkulls.jpg)

The one thing I don't like about them is that they all seem to be missing the lower jaw. But for the price and (hopefully) easy availability, I'll try them out.



I would still like some Max Mini skulls, especially since there are a couple of non-human ones in there, but I really want to see one pack first, before buying more, and I'm not sure it's worth making such a small order overseas. (If anyone knows any other US suppliers, let me know!)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: kidterminal on April 22, 2015, 08:10:25 AM
I've had similar problems with that company I was not told the items i ordered was out of stock and my emails went UN-answered.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Argonor on April 22, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
Our own Blackstone has made some resin skulls up for sale (100+ pcs for Ł8 or so):

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=76462.15
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Timbor on April 22, 2015, 10:13:57 PM
Might be too late, but, did you ever consider the LOTR army of the dead figures?

(http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99121466006_WarriorsoftheDeadNEW01.jpg)

A bit more 'spectre' than 'skeleton', but I think with the right paintjob it could be convincing.  The armour is not heavy plate, but at least they are armoured.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 22, 2015, 10:25:02 PM
I may eventually have to order some of those skulls from Blackstone!

I hadn't considered the LOTR figures... seeing that photo, I may still look into them if I can find a good deal on some. I like those!



I attempted to clean up and assembled one of the Bane Thralls, sans pauldrons. I set them up next to the figure so you can see how huge they are. They look like pieces from a segmented sewing thimble! You can see that the platforms on which the pauldrons are supposed to sit could look like more modest pauldrons on their own, if I dressed them up a little. So I might just try that.

I need to go back and spend some more time cleaning up mould lines, especially on the fingers. I can't say I am a fan of whatever this material is. It's like they used something that combines the worst qualities of lead/metal and polystyrene. Filing the stuff leaves a lot of texture and "fluff" that needs cleaned off, similar to styrene. Normally I use an knife on the styrene, which did seem to work better with this stuff. But it's a harder plastic/resin, so it doesn't cut/scrape as nicely. This one looked like it had a gate/tab/sprue/whatever on the collar that had been cleaned off, but left behind a pretty rough, chunky surface. That and the fingers were the worst parts to clean.

In spite of that, I still like the sculpting, aside from the head and pauldrons, and they are nice designs. You can see in the pic that they are much smaller than those old, monstrous Citadel skeletons. But they're bigger than just about anything. I think the Bane Thralls should fit well with the Mantic stuff, which is good since I have a big pile of their skeletons to work on eventually! In fact, I think I will also look into using some of the Mantic skeleton heads on these. If I can get my hands on some of the current GW skeleton heads, those might also fit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelecomp01_zpsdguaoxoc.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: kidterminal on April 22, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
He looks pretty good though that axe is massive! The GW LOTR figures Army of the Dead included are not on such a heroic scale they will look small next to the figures you currently have.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: Vermis on April 23, 2015, 01:37:15 AM
I agree - looks far better without the pauldrons. :) I also agree with Kidterminal that the axe could use a trim too, though that's your call.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 24, 2015, 01:34:33 AM
I think that the ridiculously oversized weapons actually work on these figures. I like the way they are posed, and the way the figures seem to be carrying/gripping/swinging them. The fact that they are supernatural nightmares also helps. I think there are a lot of figures that do giant weapons poorly, but I think this is one of those cased where it looks good (for my tastes.)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 28, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
The Secret Weapon skulls arrived today. They look great! They're a decent size, well sculpted & cast. I just wish some of them had lower jaws. But I think I will still have plenty of use for them. Here's a pic next to an old, huge GW skull, and one of the Warmachine Bane Thrall skulls (has a peg on the bottom.) I think these will work as perfect replacements for the Bane Thralls!

http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=47_55&products_id=230

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skullcomp01_zpscsxlpbja.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: DeafNala on April 28, 2015, 08:23:23 PM
I've been pretty happy with my Secret Weapon Skulls...the one missing part of the side of his head is my favorite. Have FUN with them all!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (pending a better name)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2015, 04:53:17 AM
Quick paint test for the heavy skeletal infantry. Obviously I did leave the excessive paulrons off, and swapped out the skull from one of those I got from Secret Weapon. Pretty pleased with how it looks.

This was also a bit of a photographic experiment as well. I used my phone and a pretty well rounded online, Flash based image editor called Pixlr for the photo editing.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ggtest02_zpsu1vniqca.jpg)


While I was cropping the photos, I also noticed some of the extra stuff in the perephery of some of the photos and thought I would post this tiny peek at other parts of my desk...


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ggtest01_zpszpxf3ae1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Heavy Skeletal Infantry Test)
Post by: beefcake on April 30, 2015, 07:57:09 AM
Look good. I really like how the skull is more vibrant than the rest.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Heavy Skeletal Infantry Test)
Post by: affun on April 30, 2015, 12:03:39 PM
Very nice :) definite improvement on the source-matter. I'll have to keep this in mind for future reinforcements for my own undead.

(That eye-thing looks ridiculous and intriguing: exciting stuff)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Heavy Skeletal Infantry Test)
Post by: DeafNala on April 30, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
The Deadite Knight & his Creepy Associates are WONDERFUL creations, BEAUTIFULLY painted....the  delightfully bizarre Crawling Hand & Eye are FANTASTIC. GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Heavy Skeletal Infantry Test)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 02, 2015, 04:04:42 AM
The hand & eye were part of a 3d printed designer toy I customized for the release show at Rotofugi Gallery in Chicago next week. He's a little bigger scale.  :wink: Just finished him up & put him in the mail.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/toys/nohwitzeses02_zps2bzcfc8b.jpg)



(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/toys/nowhitz_promo_share_600_zpskxgct9kv.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Heavy Skeletal Infantry Test)
Post by: DeafNala on May 02, 2015, 01:26:33 PM
That is just the type of imaginative, bizarre creation that appeals to moi...AND BEAUTIFULLY painted to boot! VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Elite)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 06, 2015, 07:59:27 PM
Finished the first small unit of skeletal elite. Only two fit on a base, which is fine. As long as they appear to have the same "mass" as the other formed units, I'm OK with that. I ended up going back and "dusting" the bottom of the robes, and giving the the edges of the armor & weapons a bit more detail. I like the way they turned out, and think they will look good with the army. I may do another set like this at some point in the future. But I've still got plenty of other stuff I'd like to get done first.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gg01_zpsq39cqzt3.jpg)


I have been re-thinking the "good guys." I already have some metal (Front Rank, Grenadier, Perry) and plastic (Perry) late 15th century medieval figures that I am considering using as my starting force of militia/levy/men-at-arms instead of my old WFB army. I like this idea for a few different reasons. The landsknecht style figures can still be introduced later on as mercenaries, and I can continue to paint them as my mood dictates.

For now, I should probably finish up the Undeadish and skeletal cavalry that are still sitting on my painting table first, though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Elite)
Post by: DeafNala on May 06, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
The Armored Dead Guys look EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE in a Group than they are individually. VERY WELL DONE!

Painting as the mood moves you sounds like a SPLENDID method to moi.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Elite)
Post by: von Lucky on May 06, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
They've come out really well - the balance of colour and size has worked out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Elite)
Post by: affun on May 06, 2015, 10:27:26 PM
I'll definitely keep this in mind for my own undead.

The way the models interact on the bases looks very good: Sort of floaty and etheral - Which suits the billowing robes of the miniatures very well. Quite dynamic!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Elite)
Post by: Peithetairos on May 07, 2015, 12:11:18 AM
Those skeletons look ace. The rust effect is very good and just looks beautiful. as others said before, the skulls are a nice contrast to the armour and make the unit pop.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Heavy Skeletal Infantry Test)
Post by: PatrickWR on May 08, 2015, 02:22:16 AM
The hand & eye were part of a 3d printed designer toy I customized for the release show at Rotofugi Gallery in Chicago next week. He's a little bigger scale.  :wink: Just finished him up & put him in the mail.

Ha! I used to live right down the street from Rotofugi! Quite a cool store in a fun neighborhood.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 08, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
Thanks for all the comments!

I haven't personally been to Rotofugi yet. I've been to Chicago a few times (not for a few years, though) but I've always had a packed schedule while I'm there.



Finished my first group of Undeadish cavalry. It may seem like I've become a painting machine, but they have been mostly done for quite a while. I just quickly (maybe a little too quickly) finished them up whenever I could get a few minutes to work on them recently.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ucav01_zpsnd4uwloo.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: Argonor on May 08, 2015, 03:21:43 PM
Nope, not too quickly, methinks!

I wish I could churn out nice looking units at your rate...  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: Duke Donald on May 08, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
Superb painting! So crisp and clean with a great sense of composition. I really like how the golden helmet of one of the undead-ish horsemen (the leader of the pack?) attracts the eye and provides a perspective to the whole bunch.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: beefcake on May 08, 2015, 08:55:20 PM
Very nice. The mx of horses looks great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 18, 2015, 05:09:45 AM
I've been doing this for a very long time. I should know better. But it's a very humid day, and here on my desk is my first batch of Mantic skeletons & revenants... covered with "fuzzy" primer.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: Duke Donald on May 18, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
I know the feeling! The only positive to the situation is a hazy coat of primer is still better than a hazy coat of varnish over painted minis.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 20, 2015, 04:27:56 AM
I've unfortunately had that happen to me once in the past, too.

I painted a couple of test models from Mantic. Not the best pic, but I think they came out ok. When I'm at a proper keyboard (instead of a phone) I'll type out some comments on the figures.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mantskelwip01_zpsuznnqroj.jpg)


I'm still digging around & cleaning out my attic storage. I found this over the weekend.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gd96tape_zps4lqcapyy.jpg)


My plan is to try some big battle games, but when I pulled this out, my mind started to wander off to thoughts of a secondary skirmish project. I've had this since it was new, but have never played it in spite of the fact that I really like some of the mechanics. Have always wanted to give it a try...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/bldstrm01_zpsk2spbnwj.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: Oldben1 on May 22, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Those black and white minis are cool, kind of hellboyish.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undeadish Cavaly)
Post by: Juan on May 22, 2015, 08:49:24 PM
I like a lot your use of the black and white colours. Really nice!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mantic Skeletons)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 23, 2015, 06:36:25 AM
Thanks!


Painted up my first group of Mantic skeletons. They are a mix of the regular ones and the Revenants, which I thought look too similar to the regular skeletons to warrant use as some other troop type.

They are OK models for the price. I'm not a huge fan of Mantic's figures in general. But I was more optimistic with the undead after seeing photos online. Once I got them in person, and now after I painted them I am less impressed. Some of the detail is very shallow and just doesn't show up with the paint. Some of the poses are a bit awkward (a few of them reminded me of the Warlord Celts,) including the way some of them were holding their weapons. I'm not really a fan of the "expressive" (cartoon-y?) skulls, either. They're not horrible figures. And they might look better in mass numbers. I'm just not a huge fan so far.


They're also a lot smaller than I expected. They look OK next to the ancient Germans I'm using as "undeadish" and should scale up OK with Perry WotR figures that will end up on the opposite side of the battlefield. But they really look miniscule next to GW and other fantasy figures. This wasn't entirely unexpected, but the difference is more noticeable than I had thought it would be. (At least on the painting/photo table -- I'll have to see how they look on the gaming table.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mantskel01_zpswzlpxisz.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mantic Skeletons)
Post by: Vermis on May 23, 2015, 09:54:44 PM
They are OK models for the price. I'm not a huge fan of Mantic's figures in general. But I was more optimistic with the undead after seeing photos online. Once I got them in person, and now after I painted them I am less impressed. Some of the detail is very shallow and just doesn't show up with the paint. Some of the poses are a bit awkward (a few of them reminded me of the Warlord Celts,) including the way some of them were holding their weapons. I'm not really a fan of the "expressive" (cartoon-y?) skulls, either. They're not horrible figures. And they might look better in mass numbers. I'm just not a huge fan so far.

I hear all that. Too much of Mantic's offerings to date have been 'meh' at best.

Quote
They're also a lot smaller than I expected. They look OK next to the ancient Germans I'm using as "undeadish" and should scale up OK with Perry WotR figures that will end up on the opposite side of the battlefield. But they really look miniscule next to GW and other fantasy figures. This wasn't entirely unexpected, but the difference is more noticeable than I had thought it would be. (At least on the painting/photo table -- I'll have to see how they look on the gaming table.)

I hear that too. The elves, besides being stick-thin, are tiny with it. I'd say they'd struggle to be even half the mass of a GW uruk hai. (Both minis just happen to be on my table right now)

Still, looking at your latest pic, the painting's up to the usual standard, and looks great. :) I expect they won't make too much of a hiccup on the table.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mantic Skeletons)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 24, 2015, 12:46:14 AM
Thanks!

I hear that too. The elves, besides being stick-thin, are tiny with it. I'd say they'd struggle to be even half the mass of a GW uruk hai. (Both minis just happen to be on my table right now)

I think that's a better description than mine. I think I'm more willing to accept the size differences between many of the other figures because they still have "gaming miniature proportions." Granted, the old GW plastic skeletons still push the limits of that in the opposite (large) direction as the Mantic figures. Maybe I am more forgiving with those because I like the poses, skulls, depth of sculpting, etc. much better.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 29, 2015, 07:26:14 AM
I counted up my Mantic skeletons and discovered I will be one base short of having a nice round number of units. So I painted up an old Citadel figure to use with them, as a leader type figure, along with one of the "emerging" skeletons from the Mantic sprues.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/oldhamwraith01_zpsqhipqpha.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mantskelewraith_zps3apvwrxp.jpg)


I also dug out an old (already painted) swarm to accompany the undead.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/swarm01_zpszlvka21j.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: fred on May 29, 2015, 08:15:58 AM
What an awesome project.

I've just seen the latest updates and have then read the whole thread through.

The painted figures look great, the colour choices work very well.

Looking forward to more progress and more photos.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: DeafNala on May 29, 2015, 03:05:55 PM
You do have a real flair for the Living Impaired AND the rats as well. VERY WELL DONE one & all!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: Arundel on May 29, 2015, 03:55:59 PM
You are a massively talented painter (I know from past painful experiences that painting skeletons/undead well can be a trick), and your photographs certainly do your work justice. I haven't had time to go through the whole thread, but look forward to doing so in the future. The comments you make on your approach to this project are also very interesting. Excellent stuff, and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: Diakon on May 29, 2015, 09:31:39 PM
Wow this is a beautiful undead/undeadish army and the good guys are looking pretty sweet too.  :o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 02, 2015, 02:10:20 AM
Thanks!


As I’ve been painting Undeadish and building a table, I’ve been thinking about a lot of the other aspects of my current project, and that has been evolving a lot.

I had started writing up a list of pros & cons for an alternative road to take with the “good guys” and had planned on posting that publicly. But the act of writing it out convinced me to just go ahead with the alternative.

The “good guys” or the “definitely living according to common definitions of life” are going to take on a slightly different character. Initially, I was simply going to use my WFB Marienburgers, and cling to a lot of the background. Previously I decided to transpose most of the general concepts of the city to my own setting. My thoughts on this have continued to evolve, and I have decided that although Marienburg and the existing army will most likely be a part of the narrative, I am going to start with some new ideas, background, and figures from the ground up.

I think it boils down to a few  main reasons. One is that I am really getting into the world building and fictional history creation. (Maybe I will try my hand at writing some actual fiction?) The other is that I would like to construct, paint and base a new army from scratch. I think I can also benefit from narrowing the focus of the setting, background, armies, and map(s).

So I have decided to start my campaign in the rural hinterland, and will be using slightly earlier period figures. As much as I enjoy the landsknecht period & style, I’m also (more?) fond of the late 15th century. I also happen to have some unpainted Perry and Front Rank miniatures to form the basis of the army, left over from my abandoned historical Burgundian army. The new focus will also be far more human-centric.

Behind the scenes I have been writing down some outlines & information regarding the setting, and have plotted out some initial battle scenarios. I will be doing these in “chapters,” and don’t want to get too far ahead of actual games, as I’d like the results of the games to determine the narrative and nature of subsequent battles (and further development of the armies.)

I will share some of these details once they are fleshed out some more. At some point, my long term goal is (ideally) to put together an oldschool “campaign pack” with writing, maps, battles. If I can manage -- and this may be a bit of daydreaming -- I wouldn’t mind creating some illustrations and sculpting a few miniatures to go with the campaign.

For now, I have more undeadish to paint, and now some revised planning to do for their opponents’ figures as well. Since I hate to update without a photo of something, here's what my desk currently looks like.



(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150601_010227_zpsgpp1zbca.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: Vermis on June 02, 2015, 02:22:17 AM
Lookin' good.  :-* Can't wait to see close-ups of the stuff on the desk. (Except that thing in the upper right. It looks terrifying.)

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Initially, I was simply going to use my WFB Marienburgers, and cling to a lot of the background. Previously I decided to transpose most of the general concepts of the city to my own setting. My thoughts on this have continued to evolve, and I have decided that although Marienburg and the existing army will most likely be a part of the narrative, I am going to start with some new ideas, background, and figures from the ground up.

I think it boils down to a few  main reasons. One is that I am really getting into the world building and fictional history creation. (Maybe I will try my hand at writing some actual fiction?) The other is that I would like to construct, paint and base a new army from scratch. I think I can also benefit from narrowing the focus of the setting, background, armies, and map(s).

Even better!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: DeafNala on June 02, 2015, 03:11:01 AM
EXCELLENT! Creating your own background sounds like a WONDERFULLY creative approach...YET ANOTHER reason to follow your project!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: LordOdo on June 02, 2015, 10:53:21 PM
Really looking forward to where this will lead! If you'd ever decide to write some actual fiction, I'd like to read :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (King of Old and a Swarm)
Post by: Lowtardog on June 02, 2015, 11:33:17 PM
Hi whats your recipe for the undeadish fleash? I have a celtoos gael army I fancy giving a try on as it looks fantastic
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 05, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
Thanks again, everyone!

The undeadish flesh is just cheap craft store paints (Americana) and Citadel black wash. Three craft paints, white, slate grey, and a light grey that's somewhere in-between the two. Base coat of the light grey, then a wash. The wash brings that color down pretty dark, so then I start highlighting in layers. Slate, slate + light, light, light + white, and maybe a few pure white highlights.

Or something generally like that. I mix on a palette as I go, and sometimes directly on the figure a bit (sort of like half-assed blending?) and a lot of the time there's no consistency to the way I paint.




I finished up five more bases of Mantic skeletons, and finally based the undeadish ogres (Golgfag v.2.)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mantskel02_zpskfh6jwij.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gfo02_zpso3ndc24u.jpg)


I'm thinking about starting a gaming club. I'm chewing on some names like Lonely Attic Wargaming, or Lonely Attic Wargaming Group. The former has the advantage of a great acronym ("I am the LAW!") but the latter has an amusing irony, since I will most likely be the only member.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/LA-logo-01c_zpssi7dycw6.png)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Lowtardog on June 05, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
That's smashing info 0203  :D lovely painting too. I will give this a bash with my gaels and see if I can work it up somewhere near to yours (though doubt anywhere near as good)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Arundel on June 05, 2015, 01:54:06 PM
More lovely work. I particularly like the ogres. Your "group" name and logo are also inspired--and look at it this way, the club will always focus on periods you most like (as they should, the swine!), you can cheat to your heart's content and get away with it, your pet manoeuvres will always catch the other fellow napping, and chances are you will win nearly every tournament. You can also drink all the beer. This sounds like a winning combination to me!

Keep up the smashing work!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: DeafNala on June 05, 2015, 01:54:48 PM
The Guys in various stages of Undeath look WONDERFUL...VERY WELL DONE!
AND GOOD LUCK with the club!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 10, 2015, 08:57:02 PM
I just sold some other gaming stuff, so I'm going to take a small portion of the proceeds and treat myself to one last small addition to the Undead. Still undecided what to do, but here's what's under consideration.


That's roughly in order of my current preference.

 

My plan is to wrap up the "first wave" of Unead/ish as soon as possible. I think I'm pretty close to having a decent selection to use for small games. (Should I ever get to the point of actual gaming.) My plan is to use them in "units" of 4 bases. In the future that could get scaled up to 6 bases per unit. I may also add in new troops to the mix, depending on how things evolve.


The next stage of painting will be the Marienburg faction. I'm really anxious to start, but still haven't decided on colors, etc. I did make up my mind to follow through with using the 15th century figures for the militia/rural troops and add the existing (and new!) landsknecht "puff & slash" guys later. I've already got most of the figures I will need, but would like to pick up a few boxes of Perry WotR plastics to round things out a bit. The new light cavalry and a box of dismounted knights are at the top of my list.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: beefcake on June 10, 2015, 09:00:03 PM
I just bought the Tom Meier dragon and (a long time ago) the UNdead OGres from Ral Partha. They are absolutely awesome. I recommend them. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 10, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
All three look so well sculpted. I've got a couple of the other Meier dragons, and really like them.

I don't suppose you have any photos of the ogres with something giving a hint as to their size? Such as bases of a particular size, next to other figures, or anything else that would give an indication of scale. (Edit: or even if you could tell me the height in mm, I would be so grateful!) I have no idea how big they are, the only photos I've seen show them on their own.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Thew1 on June 10, 2015, 09:49:05 PM
Loving this thread! :-*

Excellent and creative painting!

 The undeadish are looking brilliant.
Hope you go for the ogres and dragon as it would look superb painted up in your style.

Also looking forward to how the definitely alive develop.

More pics soon please!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Little Odo on June 10, 2015, 10:26:12 PM
Those undead ogres are fantastic  :o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: beefcake on June 11, 2015, 01:52:50 AM
All three look so well sculpted. I've got a couple of the other Meier dragons, and really like them.

I don't suppose you have any photos of the ogres with something giving a hint as to their size? Such as bases of a particular size, next to other figures, or anything else that would give an indication of scale. (Edit: or even if you could tell me the height in mm, I would be so grateful!) I have no idea how big they are, the only photos I've seen show them on their own.
I'll take some pics next to something tonight. I think they are fairly handy. I'll probably forget though so I'll send myself an email lol. I'll put the zombie dragon in the pic too, not painted but put together already.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 11, 2015, 05:23:29 AM
OK, I really wanted to order the dragon & ogres, so every bit of encouragement pushed me over the edge. They're ordered.  :D

Speaking of Tom Meier and his dragons, I've been looking for an excuse (as if I should need one) to repaint one of the others -- a favorite of mine, and another one to fit with the scale of the current project.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/serdrag00_zpsvky44glk.jpg)


This may be a bit overly academic and/or odd, but I've been mentally picturing myself in scale with the figures scale lately. Or, more accurately, imagining them in scale with the real world. Contemporary figures have just been exploding. "Scale creep" to the extreme. It really hit me when I painted up that Reaper giant a few months ago. I was thinking it was a bit on the small side compared to many other recent giants. And that is correct. But in proportion to the regular human figures, she would still be terrifying. Maybe more so, because it's more... I don't know... relatable? personal? I think that a giant the size of a skyscraper becomes more like a force of nature, and less like another creature. A creature that's fighting you with a significant advantage. After a certain size, it's more like a building toppling, or a rockslide, or some other faceless disaster. So I like that these Meier dragons, for example, are more like the size of a school bus rather than the size of a large school. Not sure if this is making any sense or if I've lost everyone at this point.  lol

I do think there's still a place in my concept/setting for the impersonal force of nature type creatures. But I'm not in a hurry to get there yet, and I'd like to keep that more rare. Maybe better for sieges and similar scenarios?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Vermis on June 11, 2015, 06:14:48 AM
Quote
Not sure if this is making any sense or if I've lost everyone at this point.  lol

Heh! I getcha. I'm fond of collecting a few vintage dragons myself, and occasionally I think modern dragon collecting would be a bit easier if so many didn't try to go big-bigger-biggest-evar - with proportional price tags - and stuck to the old croc/elephant/dinosaur/schoolbus sizes.

I also think that the sheer size is sometimes a ploy to awe people away from the hiccups in sculpting and design, but that's a tinfoil-hat story for another time.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: beefcake on June 11, 2015, 08:57:59 AM
Fully understand, a larger giant would think of us something like ants and only need to squish us if it felt so inclined whereas  a smaller one could see us as a threat so squish us before we get it. Do you still want the scald pics? Kind of redundant now I guess.
 You won't be disappointed, unless we've built your hopes up too much, in which case you may then be disappointed lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: white knight on June 11, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
All three look so well sculpted. I've got a couple of the other Meier dragons, and really like them.

I don't suppose you have any photos of the ogres with something giving a hint as to their size? Such as bases of a particular size, next to other figures, or anything else that would give an indication of scale. (Edit: or even if you could tell me the height in mm, I would be so grateful!) I have no idea how big they are, the only photos I've seen show them on their own.

If they're the ones from the DSA/Armalion range, they are about the size of 80s-90s GW ogres (before ogre kingdoms), from memory.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Thew1 on June 11, 2015, 10:12:48 PM
If you don't mind me asking, what are your thoughts on the mantic undead range? Do you get a lot of options with the skeletons sprues?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 12, 2015, 02:29:13 AM
Awesome, thank you. Yes, they're on their way anyway, so size is a moot I guess. I figure they look good, I'll find a use for them. Haha. If they scale with the old GW stuff that's even better, because I'm obviously using some of those, plus I have some of the Foundry great orcs, which are also similar size.

Now I just need to find (try sculpting??) two more.


If you don't mind me asking, what are your thoughts on the mantic undead range? Do you get a lot of options with the skeletons sprues?

Well, they are mostly in two pieces, upper & lower body. About half have separate heads, and about half of those have either open hands or separate arms. There's a little bit of variety, but not a lot. Some of the poses look a bit awkward, especially the revenants.

Subjectively, they're OK but not great. I think I'm OK with them in a large group, but when I look at them individually I start picking out some of the awkward details, cartoony faces, etc. Definitely a good deal for the money if you're OK with the style.  I'm OK with them for now, but to be honest, I wouldn't mind replacing them at some point in the future.

I haven't assembled or painted any of the zombies or ghouls because they don't fit into my project at the moment. But they do look pretty good. I had debated selling them off to fund further purchases of figures I have an immediate need for. But I'm tempted to hang on to them in case I decide I want a bunch of zombies for something in the future.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on June 12, 2015, 10:17:46 AM
OK, I really wanted to order the dragon & ogres, so every bit of encouragement pushed me over the edge. They're ordered.  :D

Speaking of Tom Meier and his dragons, I've been looking for an excuse (as if I should need one) to repaint one of the others -- a favorite of mine, and another one to fit with the scale of the current project.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/serdrag00_zpsvky44glk.jpg)


My first dragon ever :--)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 13, 2015, 02:28:54 AM
I wanted to work on something different for a while, so I'm on a terrain sidequest. I got some insulation foam for some hills, but I want them to be a bit rocky. I may cut up some of the foam off-cuts for larger rubble, but for smaller stuff I went to the craft store armed with $5, and came home with $2 and this:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150612_163602_zps8gkuaehi.jpg)

Dumped into some storage for a better look:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150612_163750_zpsobcpzl1g.jpg)


And after I took a hammer to the "deco stones":

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150612_164507_zpsg5u9b1lu.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 13, 2015, 05:06:40 AM
First set...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150612_234447_zpsbobpgv8m.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150612_234557_zpsvcv9t8g9.jpg)


In both of these arrangements, each is 20" wide (so that's about 8" gap in the second photo) and project 18" out. Both the long and short edges match up.

Not exactly what I had pictured in my head. Not digging those top levels. They look like OK gaming hills, but I think I'd like to do something more visually interesting. Hard to make that balance -- not to mention figuring out WTF I am doing. All previous hills I've done have been of the "stepped pleateau" style -- heavy on the gaming practicality, but not too interesting to look at.

Meh, I'll give them a chance. I've still got more foam & hills to make. I think the next one may be a pair of 1/2 hills (as opposed to 1/4 hills above) that can either go on table edges or be put together as a big free standing deal. Or maybe a big "filler" that can go between the two 1/4 hills above, so I can stretch it along one long table edge like a ridge...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 13, 2015, 06:31:37 AM
OK, one more. I had some 1.5" pink foam left from an older project, so I used that for a big hill. And as I sat carving it, and even after, it gradually warped (cupped) so that the center of both hills lifts off the table a bit. Not sure how to remedy this. :dry:

I made some quickie rock pillars with some of the scraps.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20150613_011430_zpsgz6qvhrz.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: Elbows on June 13, 2015, 03:19:35 PM
If you don't glue it down to some board...perhaps "mask" it with some scruff...some lichen or something when it's on the table?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: Rhoderic on June 13, 2015, 03:27:40 PM
But... but... Marienburgers are lowlanders! :P
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: Vermis on June 14, 2015, 01:15:38 PM
Aha! But the moors and downs (http://malpy.free.fr/bretonnie/maps/other_places/wastelands_map.gif) beyond Marienburg and the cursed marshes are hilly uplands, with various kinds of interesting erosion effects implied, like tors and pillars and scarps and coombes.  8)
Although, 023, did you mention this wasn't strictly Warhammer Marienburg?

Anyways. All the foam is looking good. Not sure I could suggest anything about the warping... sandwich it between two heavy books or boards and see if that flattens it out...?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 15, 2015, 12:20:04 AM
When I glue sand to the hills, I think I will try to weigh them down -- if I can do that without disturbing the sand as it dries.


As far as the geography, although I am re-writing the setting, the basics of Marienburg and surrounding Wasteland, as Vermis points, will still be present. I still plan on painting the opposite side of my tabletop glossy blue for water, and when I do that I hope to have a big selection of hills to fill the table with "solid land" while the exposed table areas will be marsh or waterways.

The steeper, rocky hills are for use in the foothills of the rural hinterland, and possibly coastal cliff sides in other areas. I've got meandering ideas for an extended narrative campaign that starts elsewhere and works its way toward Marienburg. Depending how battles go, it could possibly head back to the distant foothills & mountains at some point.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 17, 2015, 08:59:43 PM
Slow going, but I did just a few more skeletons. The photo makes them look a bit darker, but they look like they fit with the previous skeletons in real life.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mantskel03_zpsaxwrzhxq.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 18, 2015, 04:52:49 AM
One more for tonight.... a progress shot of the hills. I've got plastic on the table because I'm using it as a work surface. Should have taken it off for the pics so I could see how they look on the actual table surface.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/hills02_zpset3ktuib.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: Vermis on June 18, 2015, 04:55:11 AM
Nice effect. :) Is that green paint, flock, or both?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 18, 2015, 07:03:41 PM
Just paint. Dark green base, followed up with medium and light green drybrushing. I used flock on my previous table and wasn't entirely happy with it. Also trying to keep it simple with this set up.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: fred on June 18, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
Looking good.

I like the idea (from a few posts back) of having a water board, with lots of islands on it. I might have to think about stealing that idea!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 21, 2015, 06:34:08 AM
Steal away! I keep thinking about getting started on that, but have been pulled in too many directions at once lately. It shouldn't take long, but I'd still like to finish a few other things before tackling that.



A not terribly clear photo of two of the terrain pieces on the board, with figures for scale.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/hills03_zpshx2jtnfk.jpg)

I am currently working on the little rock formations and a few other bits, and testing out some matte varnish on the big round hill set. If the varnish works, then the hills in the pic and the rest of the table top will get a coat or two. (I have also started painting some figures I owe other people.)

When I set up for the pic above, I wanted to put up a backdrop. So now I am thinking about what I can put together for a better movable backdrop (including how to get it up to the table height from the floor.

Also, although I have not noticed any sagging, I am starting to wonder if I should put another shelf unit for support under the middle of the tabletop -- either perpendicular or parallel to the ones on the end -- either might work OK.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: beefcake on June 21, 2015, 08:07:53 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: Thew1 on June 21, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
Great looking table! Feeling very jealous of the set up you have there.

In terms of the slightly warped hills, as well as the previously recomended screening with lichen option, you could create some small scree piles with very fine gravel. These could either be stuck to the edge of the base or small movable items to use as difficult ground when you're not using the big hill sections?

Can't wait to see the Undeadish arranged on those terrain boards in all their creepy glory. Dragon included....naturally!

  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 22, 2015, 04:35:40 AM
Funny you mention that. I'm working on some very small terrain ideas. I like the idea of some small movable bits of rock. I will try that out next -- thanks!


Did a test batch of small bits of tall grass. I figure I can use these, and others, to loosely define an area of terrain, or just add scenic background and have no effect on the game. Scattered along river banks, for example. They were made with the green stained bristles from one of the cheap paint brushes I used on the table top.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tallgrass01_zpsdnq6eco5.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: DeafNala on June 22, 2015, 12:48:45 PM
LOOKIN' GOOD! The terrain compliments your Deadites SPLENDIDLY. Be warn though, once you start, terrain is an endless project with always just a couple more things to add. Of course, that description would also work with war gaming & miniature painting. Be that as it may, have FUN with the obsession.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Terrain Sidequest)
Post by: Thew1 on June 22, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
Some inspired recycling of past their best paintbrushes! These make great little scenic additions to your table. Consider this scenic recycling tip stolen  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (A Knight and Some Undead Wishing)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 28, 2015, 06:30:32 AM
A very quick paint job on one of the current Citadel plastic chaos knights. I had this single knight left over from other projects & figured I could use him as a leader of some sort. Stuck with the usual color palette.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/chlord01_zpswxgqhfrp.jpg)



Also, a little behind the scenes photo from when I was painting the horns on his head. I used a few layered washes and hung him (and his magnetic base) upside-down from my light (which is steel.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/upsidedownknight_zps7xu6bm8g.jpg)

Speaking of my light, I finally replaced the two fluorescent lamps in it. They were probably older than I am. I got the same lamps as I had, but the new ones are so nice and bright!



I keep a "wanted" list of miniatures and related items. My budget is extremely small, and I'm trying not to outpace painting too much, so items are only slowly removed from the list. I've recently started feeling nostalgic and have decided that I really need to have two pieces of the past that I honestly can't afford. Unless I find some hidden bargain or manage to arrange some sort of swap for figures or painting services, I'm not sure I will be able to cross these off my list any time in the foreseeable future.

The first is the old Regiments of Renown Nightmare Legion. I had this (painted!) when I was younger and bought minis without much concern for focusing on large armies. I eventually sold or traded it away. But now I am dying to get a set for my current project!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/ske1_zpsayunboac.jpg)



The other item isn't actually miniatures. Long, long, loooong ago I worked in a store and we had a (sealed) copy of Ratspike. I should have bought it. I didn't. I've been thinking about it lately, and would really like to get it.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/51anhMJ0OcL_zpsoxekp1nx.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (A Knight and Some Undead Wishing)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 29, 2015, 06:58:39 PM
Mail day! Thank you Ral Partha Europe!

I can't seem to take a clear photo with my phone for days now, so it's a bit blury, but the Meier dragon and two skeletal ogres arrived. I'm dying to start on these right away, but have some other things to work on first. I am also thinking about taking a shot at sculpting the ogres a couple of friends before I paint them. Not saying that I will be successful... but I think I'd like to take a shot at it.  ;)

The ogres are a little bigger than the old Golgfags I'm using with the Undeadish, but I'm OK with that. Scale is all over the place in this project, and it still looks OK. The dragon is the perfect size for me. In fact, it's close to the same size as The Caller's mount that I previously painted up. I will post some better pics with other figures for scale at some point.

Also of note, the dragon is in four parts, and they key into each other really well. They need t a bit of filing to get them to fit, but once that's done I shouldn't need to pin the pieces. Very well sculpted. But I suppose that's to be expected. Tom Meier has always been one of the best.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rpeloot01_zps1uc5m4wp.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (A Knight and Some Undead Wishing)
Post by: beefcake on June 29, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
Cool. Can't wait to see what you do with them. I've unearthed mine from my painting pile (usually gets clogged with this that and the other thing as it's a handy place to hide things when visitors come over lol )
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (A Knight and Some Undead Wishing)
Post by: Mars Miniatures on June 30, 2015, 03:23:17 PM
Luckily, Ive acquired a Nightmare Legion myself recently in a trade.  And plan to have them in my project sooner or later.  Unfortunately, I didnt get the box with them, I just love the old box artwork.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Setting the Scene)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 30, 2015, 03:26:14 PM
Even after trading/selling the figures ages ago, I hung on to the boxes for a long time. But after one too many moves, I got rid of those just a few years ago, too.  :(





I just put the dragon together, and it took a bit more work (and will require some filler) than I had anticipated to get the pieces to fit.

I also stumbled upon one last, and very small, dragon from my old collection. Old enough that I had painted it with enamels! It's a Grenadier figure, and I think it was called a young forest dragon or something along those lines. Smaller than the Meier dragons. I'll get a pic sometime soon.




I finally put some varnish on the table, and to celebrate, I set some terrain and many of the recent figures out on the table. The Undeadish are on the march, coming down from the foothills. A small cottage is in their path...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/setup0102_zpsq7tre0ll.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/setup0101_zpsxvml5box.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/setup0103_zpssiiz9jlo.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Setting the Scene)
Post by: DeafNala on June 30, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
The invading horde look WONDERFULLY SINISTER on your LOVELY new board. GREAT WORK!
The first thing the last photo brought to mind was: "Well there goes the Neighborhood!"
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Setting the Scene)
Post by: Thew1 on June 30, 2015, 09:12:48 PM
 :o brilliant stuff! The undeadish on the march are equal parts inspiring and sinister and I love the model of the kid throwing stones at them. He must have a good arm on him to hit them from that distance  :D will the empire come to the defense of these innocent civilians I  wonder?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Setting the Scene)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 02, 2015, 03:29:53 AM




 4 oldschool dragons prepped & primed. :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/4dragswip_zpsf3l3vsya.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Setting the Scene)
Post by: Arundel on July 02, 2015, 03:57:36 AM
Love those old dragons--particularly the two black ones in the second row. I look forward to seeing what you do with them paint wise.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 07, 2015, 02:28:13 AM
I painted up the Undead Dragon in similar colors to the rest of the Undead(ish.) I've got mixed feelings about the results. I think I may end up putting a little more (brush)work into it. I'm trying to find a balance between wanting to add detail, but keeping the simple character and palette of the rest of the Undead. Maybe I should hold off and put that effort into one or two of the living dragons first, and then take another look and see how I feel about this one?

He/she needs a name. For the moment I'm referring to him/her as "Calgon the Black" until I think of something more appropriate.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/calgon01_zps1t1qtdsl.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/calgon03_zpslcfaevsp.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: beefcake on July 07, 2015, 02:41:26 AM
Great colours. I'm nicking that idea  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: Steve F on July 07, 2015, 07:13:30 AM
Look at its eyes.  The poor thing seems so tired.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: beefcake on July 07, 2015, 08:23:43 AM
Tired but wired. Each eye shows something different!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: DeafNala on July 07, 2015, 01:45:36 PM
Now that the relatively Big Scaly Guy is BEAUTIFULLY painted up I finally remember him. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 07, 2015, 01:54:59 PM
Looks fine as it is, I wouldn't add any more to it  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: Vermis on July 07, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
Aye, that. Can't see too much wrong with it, from where I'm sitting. What kind of detail were you thinking of adding?

He/she needs a name. For the moment I'm referring to him/her as "Calgon the Black" until I think of something more appropriate.

How about... Whiffib. Struck down without warning, dragged along in a parody of his/her prime before he/she disintegrates altogether.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 09, 2015, 09:16:45 PM
Yeah, I guess I overthink and/or risk overworking the painting sometimes. I think I will leave it as it is and move on to other things that need paint!



A comparison of scale. These two make an interesting, if odd, pair. Seeing them together is making me reconsider my decision to paint the rat-beast meaty instead of black or grey.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/calgon05_zpsyetot8u0.jpg)



While digging through boxes of old figures, I came across this guy and think I should find a spot for him in my current plans. It’s an unreleased (AFAIK) “Bramble Demon” from an also unreleased game called Warlocke: Rise of the Young Kingdoms.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/bramble01s_zpshrzf7jsb.jpg)



And sometimes my work table looks like this….

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/desk13s_zpskc6xjjlp.jpg)

(Any guesses what's in the jar?)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: maxxev on July 09, 2015, 09:44:53 PM
demon looks cool :).

Undead beasts too, nice stuff :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: Duncan McDane on July 09, 2015, 11:39:12 PM

(Any guesses what's in the jar?)


A Citadel Coatl soaking in Simple Green?  :).

Great collection of classics figs and nice, suitable PJs. The brown eye is really impressive.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 10, 2015, 11:47:54 PM
When I started my current project and returned to painting and making plans for doing some gaming (no games yet...) at the beginning of the year, a large part of that decision was as a way to find some peaceful time to deal with a lot of the stress that has been consuming my life. It may seem like a small thing, or an escapist thing, but it's my "meditation," for lack of a better word. It gives me something positive to enjoy and look forward to.

Earlier this week a mystery package arrived at my home from overseas (UK.) When I opened the box, read the enclosed note and saw what carefully packed inside, I was overwhelmed. I had been having a really bad day up until that point. But it was suddenly washed away by the random generosity of someone I know through the online miniatures community, but have never even met in person. Here's what was inside:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/nileg00_zpscmkzrngd.jpg)

A couple weeks ago I wrote about my quest for the old Nightmare Legion, and the frustration of a limited budget. Fellow forum-goer and "Undead enthusiast," Shadespyer, had offered to keep an eye out for a more affordable Legion than I had been seeing on eBay. He ended up sending me his own figures.

So now I once again have one of the classic Regiments of Renown from my youth. The presence of this nostalgic unit in my project means a whole lot to me. It's a reminder of better times and the enjoyment of care-free gaming. More than that, it is a representation of the kindness of strangers, a reminder that there are many good people in the world, and how amazing it is to live in a time/world where modern communication creates a worldwide community from those with unique interests. I really can't thank him enough.



A Citadel Coatl soaking in Simple Green?  :).

No, but close!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: beefcake on July 10, 2015, 11:50:31 PM
Got to be the jabberwock then?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: von Lucky on July 11, 2015, 03:54:31 AM
Happy that a random act of kindness of undead cheered you up.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: Elbows on July 11, 2015, 06:26:48 AM
Awesome stuff.  I agree with you...as much as I don't "love" painting...it is one of the things which lets me zone out and chill-out.  Something my folks noticed as early as middle school.  I was a pretty spastic child, so they'd see me sit at the kitchen table for 2-3 hours at a time, fully concentrating on painting (poorly).

It is definitely a calming process.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 11, 2015, 10:33:00 PM
Got to be the jabberwock then?


Vey good.  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: LeadAsbestos on July 13, 2015, 05:08:23 AM
Many, many lovely folks on this forum. Always nice to help someone along on their journey too!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 13, 2015, 05:38:55 AM
Trying to decide what to do for shields. I think it will either be heaters or coffins. The coffin is just a rough mock-up -- I will make a nicely measured template, possibly just a little bit larger -- and cut the rest to match that.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ntlg-shieldcomp01_zpsmc1apdit.jpg)



Awesome stuff.  I agree with you...as much as I don't "love" painting...it is one of the things which lets me zone out and chill-out.  Something my folks noticed as early as middle school.  I was a pretty spastic child, so they'd see me sit at the kitchen table for 2-3 hours at a time, fully concentrating on painting (poorly).

It is definitely a calming process.

It's been a similar thing for me. I wasn't necessarily too hyper of a child (or adult), and I think I balanced active play (sports, etc.) with calmer interests like reading. But I've frequently found it difficult to focus and calm my mind. In younger years, reading about and experimenting with mediation & such -- it never even remotely worked for me. But as I got older I realized how much I would (and still do) get lost in painting, relax, and stop thinking about 800 things at once. I'd even go as far as saying that I sometimes hit what I guess people call a transcendental state or something along those lines. I will get so lost in painting that in what seems like the blink of an eye, several hours have gone by and I have a table full of painted figures.  o_o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: Vermis on July 13, 2015, 05:04:32 PM
Heaters! I was never too impressed by skellies and things decked out with themed nick-nacks like bat-wings, skullz, bones, etc. As if it weren't obvious a collection of dry bones clattering together and moving about in mockery of a past life had something to do with the undead...

"Rise, my minions! Rise and... accessorise!"
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 13, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
I 99% agree with you. I suppose there are different styles of undead, depending on the personality of the person/unperson/creature at the top of the command structure doing all the raising/animating/blood-drinking, but my own take on it is decidedly not-living, and not concerned with many of the normal concerns of the living. So that's why I'm going with an unadorned, plain, drab look. And I spend some time cutting and/or filing some of those decorative bits from other figures.

But the coffin shield may be one of my few indulgences. :) Besides, I like the proportions (maybe a bit larger, though) and it does sort of look like a cut-down kite shield.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 14, 2015, 05:00:15 PM

Was thinking about the "undead aesthetics" more last night. I don't remember if it was in this thread, or another forum I post in, but I had at one point come up with a concept for what I would do if I was some sort of Lord of the Undead. I would paint all of my skeletons and all of the their equipment black, and then I would attack at night, silent other than the rattling of bones and armour. That should make use of the advantage of the undead troops in ways that the living wouldn't normally consider.

So I guess one could take that in other directions. Some real life cultures have been known to "accessorize" in a manner meant to intimidate their enemies. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking about samurai & Aztecs. Maybe that's the thinking behind the skulls & bats & such? I don't think that's what I would do, but I'm not sure I would put on a feather suit to make myself look like a purple jaguar or whatever, either. Such is my cultural and aesthetic preference. ;)

Now that I'm going, I can think of some other ideas. Tar coated flaming skeletons? (Skeletorches?) Wrapped in razor wire? Maybe they're skirmishing with razor wire strung between them. At night, in advance of the main force.

I think the existing Lords of the Undead need to think outside the box a little more.

Hell, tie a rabid wolverine to every skeleton's chest...

But, yeah, I would pass on the decorative bat wings & crap.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 15, 2015, 05:57:16 AM
And now for something completely different...

I came across these while digging around. They were all painted, but half needed the bases finished. One of those long abandoned projects. There's actually more of these, still unpainted, as well as some of the little guys that came with some of the Foundry great orc mercenaries. I had planned on lumping them all together as "lesser goblins." No idea what I will do with them right now. I just felt like it gave me a sense of accomplishment to finish the bases. :)

Apologies for the poor photo quality.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/lesgob01_zpsuf3ynwmq.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: warburton on July 15, 2015, 11:18:13 AM
Very nice :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: **GS** on July 15, 2015, 01:24:29 PM
Nice, are some of those snotlings?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: DeafNala on July 15, 2015, 01:26:13 PM
Lesser Goblins has a nice ring to it; Snotlings always sounded like an ethnic slur. Be that as it may, the Little Green Guys look WONDERFUL. GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: Vermis on July 16, 2015, 12:15:59 PM
Fair enough about the coffin shield. :) Though for intimidation of enemies I personally still stick by 'a collection of dry bones clattering together and moving about in mockery of a past life'. lol For the most part, anyway. I think you're onto something, especially with the flaming tar-coated skeleton. Reminds of this (http://i.imgur.com/rK58kIx.jpg), which would really put the willies up me.

Nice collection of gobbos! Well done. Where are they from?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 17, 2015, 08:55:10 PM

A Legendary Hero...

...Riding a Noble Steed...

...Wielding an Ancient Hammer...


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/aozlo01_zps9vy1q6qx.png)

Coming soon...

 ;D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)
Post by: Vermis on July 17, 2015, 09:30:03 PM
 lol lol lol

I'm on the edge of me seat!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2015, 06:39:47 AM
In homage to typical post-public GW marketing, I will follow that last post up with a big let-down. ;)

As I continue to work on the big armies of Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (MvU), my mind has recently been wandering into two lines of thought...

One is that I may return to an alternate Warhammer (AltHammer?) setting after all, rather than something entirely new. At least for now. There is still too much of it that I like. However, the "local" setting will be all mine.

The other is that I think I may try delving into some smaller or skirmishy games too. Maybe I will tie these together with my plans for the MvU campaign. Maybe they will just happen in the same setting, but not interact. Who knows. At any rate, I'm looking at what I can put on the table right now -- or with minimal painting or touch-ups. I still have a lot of painting & basing I want to do before MvU, but I'm also itching to play a game soon. Just for fun I'm starting by digging out the stuff I hadn't planned on using in the MvU. Ancient figures. Some painted back in the days of 3rd & 4th ed. WFB. When I pulled out the goblins I previously posted, I also found the half painted model I have now dubbed....

ZOGMAR.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/aoz02_zpss2unrbrw.jpg)

Working on a name for his hammer. Maybe a wyvern upgrade. ;)

I also based a couple of old wolves...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/werf_zps1kajwddg.jpg)

And some more troops to support the gobbos...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/aoz03_zpshlazgkft.jpg)

I painted over the Goblin Green base edges on these relics from ages past. They may be one of Zogmar's first encounters.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/welfoos01_zps67gubnmz.jpg)



As with the big game, I'm a little indecisive about what rules to use. The more I see/read about the Oldhammerers around the internets, the more nostalgic I'm getting for 3rd ed. So maybe I will give that a shot. Or maybe even 2nd, which I've never actually played. Or there are a few other games I might be willing to try.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: beefcake on July 19, 2015, 08:28:14 AM
How about "Hitty the Hammer"
That looks really good.
Wolf fur is great too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Bloggard on July 19, 2015, 11:44:07 AM
what do you use for the short grass on your bases - looks great, and am hoping it's not static grass?



I finished up five more bases of Mantic skeletons, and finally based the undeadish ogres (Golgfag v.2.)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mantskel02_zpskfh6jwij.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gfo02_zpso3ndc24u.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: DeafNala on July 19, 2015, 01:02:31 PM
The new Old Stuff looks FANTASTIC...you do have a way with the brush AND an eye for colors. VERY WELL DONE One & all!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
what do you use for the short grass on your bases - looks great, and am hoping it's not static grass?



Thanks. After applying the glue, I dip the base in a tub of Woodland Scenics flock (a mix of green and just a little yellow,) shake/blow off the excess, then dip into a tub of static grass, hold that upside-down and tap the base a few times and blow off the excess.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2015, 04:30:23 AM
Wow. Delving deeper into the boxes in the attic...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/thmp01_zpss42hu16q.jpg)

Thumpers!

Anyone else remember these? I believe they are Tom Meier goblins/orcs re-touched & cast with a new rabbit look. I've got around 40 of them in various states of repair and painting. I had built enough to use with Hordes of the Things and then stopped.

I wonder if I can rebase & find a use for these. :)

There were a few other things in the box/HotT army, like some Fortress Figures "Hareballs." I will get to those later.



UPDATE: Doing a little research, from what I read, they only appeared in this 1995 catalog (link below.) Thumpers are on pages 13 & 14. The orcs they're based on are on page 12.

http://www.dndlead.com/Catalogs/RalPartha1995.pdf

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Alxbates on July 21, 2015, 04:10:31 PM
I LOVE LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that "Age of Zogmar" logo!!!!!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 21, 2015, 07:45:06 PM
Yeah that logo (and the minis) is ace!

Can I have a picture with it!?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 21, 2015, 09:55:54 PM
That looks a great HOTT army!

I can't help but thinking that there's something mildly heretical about those Ral Partha rabbit-men, given that the original orcs are so good. I have some gnolls or beastmen that are also converted from them and which carry the same hint of vandalism about them.   :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletons & Ogres)
Post by: Bloggard on July 22, 2015, 09:32:15 AM
right, thanks for the info. Neat approach which looks great.


Thanks. After applying the glue, I dip the base in a tub of Woodland Scenics flock (a mix of green and just a little yellow,) shake/blow off the excess, then dip into a tub of static grass, hold that upside-down and tap the base a few times and blow off the excess.


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Thew1 on July 22, 2015, 09:24:25 PM
Wow, you have been very busy sir! Puts my painting output (or lack thereof) to shame. Loads of brilliant stuff here. The undead Dragon fits in perfectly with your undeadish and the little green fellas look great. Top job  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 23, 2015, 04:02:58 AM
Yeah that logo (and the minis) is ace!

Can I have a picture with it!?

The logo? If you want, you can download the pic of just the logo from the previous page.


I can't help but thinking that there's something mildly heretical about those Ral Partha rabbit-men, given that the original orcs are so good. I have some gnolls or beastmen that are also converted from them and which carry the same hint of vandalism about them.   :D

They really are great sculpts, as are many of the old Ral Partha figures. When I was younger, my friends and I got hooked on Citadel & Grenadier, and unfortunately we passed over a lot of the RP figures because if the size difference. I do still have some other RP figures, but none of the goblins/orcs. I may have to remedy that at some point.


Wow, you have been very busy sir! Puts my painting output (or lack thereof) to shame.

Thanks. Bear in mind that a lot of that stuff I posted recently -- the elves, goblins, trolls, rabbits -- were painted long ago. I'm just digging my collection out of storage to see what I can put to use in my renewed interest in the hobby. Some of it is unpainted, but some is already painted and hopefully seeing a new life soon.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: mweaver on July 23, 2015, 10:07:45 PM
This thread is very inspirational - thanks for all the lovely pictures and ideas.

-Michael
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 24, 2015, 06:00:52 AM
Thanks!


I've made some decisions.


I've decided to go with the heater shields on the Nightmare Legion. I filled & sanded the small holes on the face of them, and glued them to the figures. So here they are -- ready for some primer! I would like to put them on 40x40 bases like everything else in this project. Seems a bit heretical. I'll end having to trim the slotta tabs too.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wip072215_zpslu0okhf5.jpg)


Another decision I made was to go back to the Warhammer setting for my (eventual...) narrative campaign. I'm still going to mix it up a bit. I think I will turn the clock back a bit from the early 26th century of the recent official stuff, to somewhere in the neighborhood of the mid 25th century. I may also deny that the Empire was reunited by that point. I will be scribbling out drafts for my own map, and jotting down notes specific to a local campaign plot & local setting. It will probably be in the western Wasteland (Merienburg's hinterland) between the mountains & border with Bretonnia and the city of Marienburg itself. That gives me mountains, plains, swamps, small villages, minor fortifications, trade routes, a mining town, etc.

So I guess this will be closer to Oldhammering it, after all!


Making these decisions will help steer me back on course, after starting to get sidetracked. If you're reading this, chances are you are a painter and/or gamer -- you know how it is, right? I'm still going to work in the other old figures I've dug out, and maybe try to work out some solo skirmish gaming. But I'm going to resist the urge to put painting, modeling, etc. work into those distractions. Even though I will be modifying it, since I will be sticking with an established setting, I will also minimize that distraction as well.



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 24, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
Love what you're doing so far  8) 8)

I also like the 'none-unification of the Empire' idea. It gives many more gaming opportunities  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Vermis on July 24, 2015, 10:40:34 AM
Nice work on the shields. :) The plans look like something to get your teeth into! How much of it can you post here?

I also like the 'none-unification of the Empire' idea. It gives many more gaming opportunities  :)

I always figured the Elector Counts took pot-shots at eachother when the opportunity arose, anyway. ;D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on July 24, 2015, 10:48:06 AM
Lovely work here!  :-*

And I agree with Vermis; I always understood that at various times the Elector Counts had all sorts of nasty little border wars and armed squabbles with each other regardless of the unification of the Empire or not. Likewise, at a lower level, all sorts of mercenary outfits have turned their hand to creating demand for their services when their employers are not currently engaged in a war or battle of some sort...  8)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 24, 2015, 04:08:03 PM
I suppose. It reads that way in the fictional history, and certainly was that way in the older books. It just seems that as time went on, the setting became simplified (not just the Empire.) It seemed like there was more of an emphasis on absolutes and cliches, and the focus shifted away from smaller battles & events to epic events that united each faction. The peasants and electors alike became fanatical devotees of the Emperor, unerringly serving in the battle against the hordes of chaos. Dwarfs were all this, High Elves were all that, blah blah blah. Like GW's writers became fixated on the apocalypse, so the view became worldwide, and the smaller nuances were lost. No wonder they felt pressured (by their own repetitive emphasis) to end their world. "OMG, it's the end of the world.... nevermind. OMG, it's the end of the world.... nevermind. OMG, it's the end of the world.... nevermind. OMH, it's the end of the world, WE REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME!"  lol

I think that's the other factor, for me. I like to look at things on a smaller scale too -- not just the big stuff. I like a lot of the oldschool scenarios & campaigns, where the story & fights were more localized... a few towns, a province.

So I guess that's my bias. Still "battles" rather than skirmishes between a dozen or so combatants. Just not the imminent end of the world.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar)
Post by: Vermis on July 24, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
I know just what you mean. I think it'll come through in a couple of my own little projects I might post up soon.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 27, 2015, 08:22:55 PM
So I primed the Nightmare Legion and.... disaster. The dreaded "fuzzy" primer. It's not too bad but still noticeable even after I took a stiff brush to some of the figures to paint up as a test. I painted up a few, and thought they looked OK. You can't tell too much in the photos, or on the gaming table, but I can see the texture in places when I pick the figures up and look closely. Now that I've been contemplating it for another day or so, I'm considering the dreaded task of stripping the remaining figures and re-priming. Here are the test subjects:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/nl02_zpstytn1tot.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: DeafNala on July 27, 2015, 09:46:49 PM
I'm sorry to hear about the Spray On Catastrophe. The Skeletal Warriors do look SPLENDID. I hope the resurrection goes well.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: LordOdo on July 27, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
I think they look great the way they are!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on July 28, 2015, 09:08:41 AM
So I primed the Nightmare Legion and.... disaster. The dreaded "fuzzy" primer.  [...] Now that I've been contemplating it for another day or so, I'm considering the dreaded task of stripping the remaining figures and re-priming. /a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/nl02_zpstytn1tot.jpg[/img]

I think they look great, but I appreciate that they may look different to you in-hand.

My feelings are that you've waited in anticipation for these figures so long now, that they probably deserve the strip and re-prime if you're already considering it. Besides, at least you're only having to strip the primer and not finished paintjobs!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
I ended up stripping the remainder of the fuzzy primer (but unpainted) figures, reprimed them, and just glued them on their temporary painting bases.

I also started going through other figures in various stages of stripping & re-painting.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mediumbeasts01_zpsda4jjmmj.jpg)

To the left is the old Citadel jabberwock, which was the "mystery figure" in the jar in a previous photo. I've had a chance to put a little bit of paint on him the last few weeks, but not much progress. Behind that is the Ral Partha jabberwock, which was too big for the jar since it was cast as a single piece. (I will strip that one when I find a larger jar.) Next to that is a Grenadier "dragon-fly" that just had it's paint removed as well. And on the right is a figure that I think was from either Leviathan or Celtos or Chronopia or one of the other games around that time. He will be remain painted, but I included him in the pic because I dug out a second figure that has the same mount, but different rider. I will be leaving the rider off and using that one as just as a beast.

I'm not sure how soon these will be painted. Now that the Nightmare Legion is ready for paint again, I will be back at those.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: Hobgoblin on August 03, 2015, 07:48:54 AM
Those jabberwocks are superb figures (I have one that I daubed crudely but semi-adequately 25 or more years ago, and the other awaiting a Dettol bath). I think they illustrate the interesting point you made about monster sizes very well. Neither is huge by modern standards, but both would be terrifying beasts "in the flesh" (and both match the size in the Tenniel illustration fairly well).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: beefcake on August 03, 2015, 09:15:09 AM
Cool bunch of monsters. are they going to be semi dead? I must buy that ral partha jabberwock. I see RPE still stock it.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2015, 05:50:46 AM
My thoughts on painting the Citadel Jabberwock is that I will start with the same pale "undeadish" pallette, but add some pale bits of color to it. I've got something specific pictured in my mind, hopefully I can execute it in real life.  ;). If that works out, I may do the RP model similar, but somewhat different. Those two models really do go well together, by the way.

Although it seems like a completely different scale, I've also been considering picking up a Reaper jabberwock. Its much larger, but the illustration in the book also looks rather large.

I haven't thought about the painting for the others (insect critter & dragonfly) yet. The latter, at least, seems like it needs more color than the undeadish aesthetic.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: Hobgoblin on August 05, 2015, 07:55:08 AM

I haven't thought about the painting for the others (insect critter & dragonfly) yet. The latter, at least, seems like it needs more color than the undeadish aesthetic.

I wonder if the pond dragon might look good with a ghostly, almost phosphorescent scheme (very pale green or blue, perhaps). It's a slightly spectral-looking creatures as it is.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2015, 05:44:43 PM
That's similar to what it had on it, though very poorly done back in my younger days. There are still some remnants of the pale blueish paint that need to be picked off the figure in the photo above.  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 07, 2015, 10:14:44 PM
Rather than rebase the Marienburgers that are already painted, I've decided to just make some simple trays for them. Here are the first two prototypes, loaded full of sword & buckler men.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/nmtray01_zpsyfz9v8b6.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trays of Marienburgers)
Post by: DeafNala on August 08, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
They are a HANDSOME Crew of Rogues & the movement trays tie them together BEAUTIFULLY. GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trays of Marienburgers)
Post by: Lawful Evil on August 10, 2015, 12:54:55 AM
They look amazing! Are they mostly metals or plastics?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trays of Marienburgers)
Post by: Elbows on August 10, 2015, 01:02:12 AM
This thread continues to be one of the best on this forum.  Outstanding work.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trays of Marienburgers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 10, 2015, 03:01:14 AM

Wow, thanks!


They look amazing! Are they mostly metals or plastics?


The troops are mostly plastic -- 5th ed. multi-piece, with some occasional bits from other models thrown in. The bucklers are lead, I think from Old Glory.** The champions, standard bearers, and musicians are lead.



** I didn't care from the anachronistic shields they came with. I realize it's a fantasy game, but they still looked out of place.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trays of Marienburgers)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 12, 2015, 02:20:59 PM
Wow, lovely-looking stuff!  :-*

I confess that I wasn't overly fond of the 5/6 edition plastic Empire soldier kits at the time, but your efforts (and others I've seen) have rather changed my mind. :P
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 13, 2015, 05:20:28 PM

Before I get to my next update, I wanted to mention that although I don't comment a whole lot, I really enjoy all of the other projects, figures, and such shared here at LAF. Most of my viewing of these happens on my phone during the little "in between" times of the day. As a result, I don't reply a whole lot because I hate typing on a phone and I frequently don't have more than a few minutes in which to look & reply before being interrupted anyway. But I just thought I should mention that LAF has really become my new favorite gaming/painting site, and everything posted here is just amazing and inspiring. I will try to find time to comment more frequently.

Parallel to that, thank you to everyone who has used a bit of their valuable time to leave words of advice, criticism, or encouragement here on my own project.

Now, before I get all emotional, on with the update.  :)



I confess that I wasn't overly fond of the 5/6 edition plastic Empire soldier kits at the time, but your efforts (and others I've seen) have rather changed my mind. :P

At the time they were first released, I wasn't as fond of them either, but that's because I just wasn't into the landsknecht look at all at that time. However, since then, they were the initial inspiration for me to start an Empire army!




Time has been tight lately, so the things I've been working on are those which I can spend 5-10 minutes on, then step away for a few hours or days, then come back and work on for another 5-10 minutes.


I finally finished a commission that I've been slowly working on for a few months.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jheg02_zpsgz9kjboh.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jheg01_zps4jeqm6kl.jpg)



I also started on some terrain a week or two ago. Finally finished today, with the addition of the grass flock. Inspired to get back to the Marienburg/Wasteland theme a bit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/smmrsh01_zpsqla5zfhj.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rck01_zpsb8arybwk.jpg)

I would really like to do some larger terrain, but can't manage to get the hour or so I need during daylight to go outside and make a mess with a saw, file, and sander outside to make the hardboard bases. Plans include larger marsh/swamps, river & road sections, and a tumulus.


And lastly, more progress on making a few new movement trays at a time.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/setup0201_zps8decdzyl.jpg)

I am starting to regret not putting a metal or magnet-receptive material on the trays as I did with the older WFB sized trays. The standard bearers like to tip over a bit too much.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: Vermis on August 13, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
Highlights on that griff...  :-* Everything looks great, though. That's an impressive lot of Marienburgers.

And yeah, this place is good, innit? Great focus on gaming and modelling, and not just on a scant handful of games or ranges.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 14, 2015, 03:34:00 AM
Thanks!

One more pic to add. I finally finished the bases on a couple of quickly painted old townsfolk.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/twotownies01_zpsl2nkln2w.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 14, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
[warm fuzzy feelings towards LAF]

Totally agree!  8)


At the time they were first released, I wasn't as fond of them either, but that's because I just wasn't into the landsknecht look at all at that time. However, since then, they were the initial inspiration for me to start an Empire army!

I liked the Landsneckt look, but those plastics didn't fit the older metal models as well (or so I thought), and that combined with the large-looking heads put me off.

I do like the newer plastics too BTW, but I feel that some judicious head-swaps and trimming off of skulls/bones helps them a lot! Then again, I could say the same about a lot of GW models.


I also started on some terrain a week or two ago. Finally finished today, with the addition of the grass flock. Inspired to get back to the Marienburg/Wasteland theme a bit.

Looks good - foam I assume?

I find that if you take a rough rock from the garden and press it into the foam strategically, if transfers the texture and makes the foam menhirs look more realistic.
If you've only painted them, you might still be able to do that now and touch up the paintwork if you like.


I am starting to regret not putting a metal or magnet-receptive material on the trays as I did with the older WFB sized trays. The standard bearers like to tip over a bit too much.

Can you not drill a hole near the front of the tray's base and recess a single magnet into it where the standard bearer will be?

Not as good as doing the whole base, but it's a simple fix in a pinch to stop the model nose-diving at every chance!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 14, 2015, 05:47:18 PM
That might be worth a shot. I was hoping to keep it simple/quick, but I don't want to have to deal with chipping paint from figures falling over.



Yet one more pic, now that the recipient has seen it. Another project I've been working on for months, this one is part of a trade deal for some old figures. Rather than start a new topic, I'm just going to keep most of what I do in one ongoing post. One or two little details I'm still going to add, but just about done.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tmball01_zpsmzsatzv6.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 14, 2015, 06:18:52 PM
Very nice - I really like the two merchants/tax collectors at the back. Where are they from please? :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: DeafNala on August 14, 2015, 07:49:03 PM
OUTSTANDING! Your Town Folk are some of the LOVELIEST of your creations. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 15, 2015, 03:41:11 AM
Thanks!

Very nice - I really like the two merchants/tax collectors at the back. Where are they from please? :)

I believe they are all Lead Adventure Bruegelburg figures.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: white knight on August 15, 2015, 08:23:04 AM
I believe they are all Lead Adventure Bruegelburg figures.

Only the two in the back I believe, the others are Pro Gloria.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Variety Update)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 17, 2015, 05:15:48 AM
I stand corrected, then.


My sleep has been screwed up this week, so I was up late the past few nights. Figured it would be a good time to wrap up enough of the Nightmare Legion to field a basic unit . Still two more 40mm bases to paint, which will have the four command figures and more troops.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/nl03_zpsyeil8bna.jpg)


Also, just because I wanted to see how my forces were shaping up, I set up a table. I think this helped boost my spirit a bit regarding gaming. I'm still not sure how/what/when I will do in terms of actual gaming. But at least I can feel like I'm doing something that looks pretty decent on a table.

I'm waiting on the owner of the previously posted elf griffin to stop by to pick it up, so I left it threatening a flank in the meantime.  ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/setup0302_zps7app0k4u.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/setup0301_zpscz5opdks.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion and Table Set Up)
Post by: von Lucky on August 17, 2015, 09:05:02 AM
Impressive. I would be very happy with that collection.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 20, 2015, 06:24:33 AM


While sorting out the Marienburg figures for use in my planned basing scheme, I noticed a couple of cases where I could paint up just a few figures to round out a unit so it would be ready for the battlefield. In most cases, that means 16 infantry, 8 cavalry, or 4 big critters for the basic unit building blocks.

So I painted up one more pistolier, and started on four more dwarf pikemen as a quick break from the undead.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwfwippst01_zpsyccuqwwa.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 21, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Stuff! In the mail!

I should never need to buy another flight stand in my life after today.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/clrfly_zpsr6qqhbb4.jpg)

Hmmm... I've always wanted to try one of those floating terrain projects. Maybe I should give it a try....  o_o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on August 22, 2015, 12:00:33 PM
It looks like things are progressing in FINE fashion. The Gaming Board & minis are GORGEOUS or soon will be. GREAT WORK once more!

Floating terrain has a certain allure for moi also. I'll keep an eye out for your aerial activity.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: affun on August 22, 2015, 03:08:11 PM
Hmmm... I've always wanted to try one of those floating terrain projects. Maybe I should give it a try....  o_o

You should  ;) So I can appreciate the result and get motivated to take a pop at doing one myself.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on August 23, 2015, 12:04:41 PM
Things are coming together really well - the table looks a bit empty still but I guess it's a matter of time until you drop the expected eye candy.  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 25, 2015, 03:35:21 PM
I've been looking at inspiration for floating terrain, and I think it may be more involved than I want to get into right now, if I want to do it right. I've got all the focus of Doug, the dog from up.

Squirrel!



With these four dwarfs finished, I can now field a full unit. (Maybe a unit photo next update?) Disappointed that the camera really flattened the colors. I'm quite proud of the bright highlights on these guys. ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mmdwfsp01_zpsarmvioki.jpg)



And just to prove that I've finally started painting that Westfalia sample halfling....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wstfhobwip01_zpsehlbhhbr.jpg)



While waiting for paint to dry on the above figures, I worked on the Citadel jabberwock. Again, the camera sort of washed out the color. Hard to tell, but I added some nice sickly purples & yellows on this, rather than sticking with the usual  neutral greys of most of the undeadish.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jabber01_zpsfax0wksq.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 25, 2015, 04:50:29 PM
The Halfling and Jabberwocky are both very nice indeed!

Nice pose on the Halfling too. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on August 25, 2015, 05:00:04 PM
The new additions, both large & small look WONDERFUL. The Jabberwock is FANTASTIC. VERY WELL DONE one & all!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on August 25, 2015, 08:51:14 PM
Very nice. I can;t wait until the halfling becomes available for purchase.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 27, 2015, 12:47:27 AM
Thanks!


Here's the rest of the unit of old dwarf spear/pike:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mmdwspear02_zpspfsg1rks.jpg)



And the now completed Westfalia halfling:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wfhbt02_zpstxp6rwnx.jpg)



I've been experimenting with more terrain. This was done with a bit of pulled apart steel wool, glued to a base, sprayed with brown primer, and then glued with some clump foliage. 

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/shrb01_zpsn8udl39c.jpg)



I picked up this "Lord of the Feast" from Hordes.

(https://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/file/view/lord_feast.jpg/32362929/lord_feast.jpg)

And this is what it looks like out of the package:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/lofpieces_zpsjrinauch.jpg)

I've got conflicting feelings for it. On the one hand, I love the figure and it's well sculpted. I also like the size (for my project) which is significantly taller than a normal human. I will have to dig up the figure, but I think it should look good with the old Citadel "Death Elemental." But on the other hand, it's seven pieces with mostly bad glue-joints, and little opportunity for easy pinning. It looks like it will fall apart if used for actual gaming. My experience with sculpting, mold making, and casting is admittedly limited, but I think this really could have been designed with better joints and/or in fewer pieces. I go this because I was excited to work on it next. But right now I can't work up the enthusiasm to try putting it together properly.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 27, 2015, 01:08:11 AM
If it helps, the LotF can be pinned! But you will need some fine drill bits, thin brass rod and a little patience.  :)

As for the way it's sculpted/cut up... Well, it's one of PP's older models. That said, they always did have a knack for choosing a silly place to make the cuts (some PP models I own have a hand that's separate - just the hand on it's own! Nightmare to place, nevermind pin or glue).  ::)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on August 27, 2015, 10:13:54 AM
Metal, superglue, Greenstuff, superglue, metal maybe?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on August 27, 2015, 11:06:50 AM
nice mini though. Should be good. Love PP stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 27, 2015, 11:43:08 AM
The jabberwock looks stunning. I wish mine was that good!

Lovely dwarfs too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Metternich on August 28, 2015, 01:38:26 AM
Your dwarven landsknecht foot  look as likely a lot to ever drag a pike.  Great fun.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 05, 2015, 09:13:35 PM
Been busy with other things this past week, not much progress on miniatures. But I've still tried to find some time to do a little painting. Working on this...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mburgstdwip01_zpsnei2gfib.jpg)


I've been slowly hunting down various larger than human skeletons. Here's the skeletal fruits of my necromantic labors.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/bigbones_zpszg2lneh0.jpg)

The big fella in the back is the Reaper Colossal Skeleton (Bones version.) Nice figure, and nice price for the Bones version. Almost too large for regular gaming.

The shorter figures on either end are the skeletal ogres from Ral Partha Europe. I really like these, and would like to find more skeletons that match this size, so I could form a unit of at least four without duplicate figures

The three in the middle are (from left to right) Skeletal Cyclops from Grenadier/Mirliton, Skeletal Giant from Reaper (arm not glued on yet,) and Skeletal Troll from RAFM (weapon broke off in the package, I need to fix it.) These three scale pretty well together, and all three are well sculpted and well cast.

One more on my list is this from Iron Wind Metals (so possibly available from Ral Partha Europe as well?) I have no idea how large it is: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=8186

Still keeping my eye open for other options.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on September 05, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
I love the selection there. I've wanted the cyclops for a while and there is a bunch of other stuff I want from mirliton. People try to sell original grenadier ones for silly money on eBay.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 08, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
I love the selection there. I've wanted the cyclops for a while and there is a bunch of other stuff I want from mirliton. People try to sell original grenadier ones for silly money on eBay.

I've even seen the same seller listing the same miniature as "Grenadier" for twice the price of one labeled "Mirliton."

I now regret selling a lot of old Grenadier figures in the past, and would love to place a large order with Mirliton at some point. But unfortunately that's not in the budget in the foreseeable future. Even then, I have a few other "still not in the budget" dream purchases in line ahead of Mirliton -- I've been dying to get my hands on a load of White Knight's dwarfs, and I'm looking forward to the Westfalia halflings.




One of the great things about these "bare bones" (or nearly so) skeletons is that they paint up quickly. Finished another unit of skeletons, plus the three giants.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelgia01_zpssi0ef308.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelgia02_zpsx4mz9iwx.jpg)

I forsee some "desperately outnumbered defenders" battles in the Marienbugers' future. Quick roll call, counted in units.


The Forces of the Somewhat Less Than Living:

7x Skeleton Infantry
1x Skeleton Guard
3x Skeleton Giants
1x Undead Dragon
3x Undeadish Infantry
1x Undeadish Cavalry
2x Undeadish Ogres
1x Undeadish Giant
1x Vermin Swarm
1x Vermin Beast
1x Jabberwock

Partially Complete:
1x Skeleton Infantry
1x Skeletal Knights (will they ever get painted?!)




Field Army of the Generally Accepted as Being Alive According to Common Definitions:

4x Swordsmen
2x Spearmen
1x Handgunners
1x Greatswords
1x Knights
1x Pistoliers
1x Ogres
1x Speardwarfs
1x Wood Elf Scouts/Archers
1x War Wagon
?? Giants
plus misc. artillery (not sure about working these into the game)

Partially Complete:
1x Handgun Dwarfs
1x Elf Light Cavalry
1x Great Orcs
1x Halfling Scouts
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on September 08, 2015, 08:46:51 PM
Nicely painted. I love the sword on the middle guy.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 09, 2015, 05:32:46 AM
Thanks!

One more pic. Finally finished this crewman for the War Wagon after... years. Something must be wrong with me. I had planned on painting him in bright, clashing colors, but ended up with a more subdued palette to go with the wagon.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wwgblnd_zps8aufwjzm.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wwg03_zpsyp5ikvb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on September 09, 2015, 08:22:09 AM
Lovely painting as always - but that war wagon - It always felt wrong to me to have just 2 horses in front of that massive thing.
The colection of undead giants is perfect however.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Steve F on September 09, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
It always felt wrong to me to have just 2 horses in front of that massive thing.

And no-one driving them!  Lovely use of gold and blue, though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 09, 2015, 08:48:32 AM
Very nice giants - I like the one in the middle best, as I think the bone looks a bit more natural and the rust on his sword is great.

As for your War Wagon... Well, I always had a soft spot for that miniature, even though it's as silly as the War Altar (another model with nobody driving the horses, who pull around a giant bronze statue on a stone plinth!). I take it from your particular model that you run it as a Steam Tank? :)

If I may make one comment on painting, I personally think that the War Wagon horses could do with a little more contrast on their barding. Probably only a soft variation (as too stark a contrast would look odd). To achieve this, you could add a tiny amount of colour to it as well.

I'd suggest using a little purple ink, with a touch of sepia ink added to it (I really like the Vallejo inks for this), and then thinned down to a glaze - build up a few soft passes and you'll have that subtle look in no time. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on September 09, 2015, 03:05:42 PM
OOH! COOL STUFF! The Large Living Impaired Lads are particular STUNNING creations. VERY WELL DONE!

...but that war wagon - It always felt wrong to me to have just 2 horses in front of that massive thing.

I have a few of those Beasties kicking around; re, Friend John has Dwarven Plans for the Wagons, which allows moi to have the crewmen. While the Wagon is a rather cumbersome thing, the crew are FANTASTIC pieces. I love it when a Plan, even a Dwarven one, works out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 09, 2015, 05:08:32 PM
Haha. OK, I do agree that the wagon is a ridiculous model. Not just the horses, but the high center of gravity and the fact that it would take very little to send the whole thing crashing to the ground. (Not to mention that my addition of the cannon is a bit unrealistic and dangerous!) But it's got a certain fantasy charm to it.

I also agree that the crew are very nice figures. The only other one I've painted so far is the long-gunner (two of him, actually.)



Lovely painting as always - but that war wagon - It always felt wrong to me to have just 2 horses in front of that massive thing.

Now that you mention it, I bet it would look really nice adding two more horses on the front. I'd just have to find a couple of spares.


If I may make one comment on painting, I personally think that the War Wagon horses could do with a little more contrast on their barding. Probably only a soft variation (as too stark a contrast would look odd). To achieve this, you could add a tiny amount of colour to it as well.

I'd suggest using a little purple ink, with a touch of sepia ink added to it (I really like the Vallejo inks for this), and then thinned down to a glaze - build up a few soft passes and you'll have that subtle look in no time. :)

Thanks. I may give this a try. I hadn't thought of purple, but it makes sense -- and I've got some far under-utilized purple wash and ink.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Metternich on September 10, 2015, 01:32:33 PM
Great to see the old War Wagon finished and on the table.  I also particularly liked your Marienburger units.  And as for Elector Counts engaging in border skirmishes with each other, it happened in the real Holy Roman Empire throughout the 15th and well into the 16th centuries, so I certainly can see it happening.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 11, 2015, 06:39:50 PM
I think I may have to get one of these.

(https://www.crocodilegames.com/content/storeImg/WGE-131.jpg)


...and a few tridents for the next time I convert Manann priests or themed figures, so I don't have to make my own again!

(https://www.crocodilegames.com/content/storeImg/WGO-102b.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: grant on September 11, 2015, 07:18:25 PM
What a beautiful and amazing project. Always been one of my favourites.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 14, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
Thanks!




I've been procrastinating on these, but really think that the Undead need at least one unit. I've painted up two to see how they look & get a feel for the process of painting them. I really like these figures, aside from some of the skulls sculpted into the armour, and the bat-winged shields. I did end up replacing some of shields and cutting off a few bat wings from helms. I'm already tempted to get a second unit of these. (Still tempted to do a second unit of the converted heavy skeletal infantry, too.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/blkn03_zpskqznrbt6.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/blkn02_zps8epy6aey.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/blkn01_zpsdydj0dju.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on September 14, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
VERY WELL DONE! I love the colors you chose & the brushwork is up to your OUTSTANDING standards. I definitely agree with the bat wing & skull removal; i.e., the Deadites should be clad in their old costumes sans the undead embellishments. If for no other reason than it is SO difficult to find tailors to fit them for new finery which then wouldn't then be ragged.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on September 15, 2015, 01:27:52 AM
Holy moley that's nice. :D Nicely shaded grey/black along with the golden-ochrey yellow works very well!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Argonor on September 15, 2015, 07:37:30 AM
You actually made those models look good, and nearly realistic (if that can be said of undeads) - but apart from your great painting, it also took removing some of the OTT detailing, I see. Thinking out of the box seems to be the way to go!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 15, 2015, 08:30:25 AM
With or without the batwing helmets (which, ashamedly perhaps, I actually like!  :-X), the various current GW skelly regiment kits are really nice IMO - I think your paintjob here has emphasised all their best bits too, and they look great. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 15, 2015, 03:02:49 PM

Thanks!


If for no other reason than it is SO difficult to find tailors to fit them for new finery which then wouldn't then be ragged.

Hahaha. I think a diorama with a bunch of plain, unadorned skeletons entering one side of a tent, and then coming out the other side covered in new, stylized skull & bat outfits could be a fun project. "Fashion Consultant of the Dead."


With or without the batwing helmets (which, ashamedly perhaps, I actually like!  :-X), the various current GW skelly regiment kits are really nice IMO - I think your paintjob here has emphasised all their best bits too, and they look great. :)

I only have these newer kits, but if the infantry are of similar quality, I agree! These are really nice figures.

I went with other skeleton infantry because of cost, and already owning some of the old (big) skeletons. When I picked up some extra skeleton infantry, I gave Mantic a try because I thought the undead figures looked decent and they were 1/3 the price (or better) than the GW equivalent. I'm glad I indulged in the Black Knights, though. (Admittedly, I got them when I saw them at a pretty good discount!)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 17, 2015, 05:31:29 AM
Great orc mercenary. Another case of finishing off a mostly completed unit. I also wantef to do something colorful before getting back to that unit of black knights.

The  photo is a bit overlit. Took it quickly before heading out of town for the day. I'll get a pic of him with the others (already painted) when I'm back home tomorrow night.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/grorcs02_zpshqwrrof6.jpg)

 
I do think I need a little break from painting undead. So I should pick an Empire/mercenary unit to do after the knights. I have minimal missile troops, so maybe Marauder dwarfs with handguns (and a pair of swivel guns)? Crossbowmen from the Perry plastics? Birdmen of Catrazza (do they even count?) Melee options are Foundry landsknecht pike, old Empire halberdiers, another unit of Marauder dwarf spear/pike or some Front Rank billmen.

I think I may have a few other things packed away, too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: grant on September 17, 2015, 05:45:11 AM
I vote Birdmen of Catrazza: they are very unique and one of my favourites from DoW.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 17, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
I'd like to see the Birdmen and Dwarf swivel guns personally! :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on September 17, 2015, 01:23:29 PM
The Green Halberdier looks WONDERFUL. As with all Renaissance pieces, it's the color selection that makes the piece...the OUTSTANDING brushwork doesn't hurt either. VERY WELL DONE!

One of the advantages of not gaming is not having to go through the mind numbing mass formation painting grind. There are redeemable qualities to the solitary painter/gamer.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on September 17, 2015, 01:57:09 PM
That undead cavalry really is lovely. never been a fan of the Foundry orcs but the painting on this one is great too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on September 17, 2015, 08:54:21 PM
Very very nicely painted.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 18, 2015, 05:35:34 AM
I have a mere six Great/Mercenary Orcs. I really like the figures, but it's difficult to fit them into my collection/budget unless I find bargains. Below are the painted ones together. Four is the minimal I need to put a unit on the table under my current plan, so I'll finish the last two at a later date.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/grorcs03_zpsfxh9lqyk.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: **GS** on September 18, 2015, 10:41:03 AM
That's the spirit of GW-Orcness, I think. Be proud, pick your nose and behinds as you wish and find "fanzy clodhes" :)

I like the big green guy as well
Keep showing stuff, please!

Cheers
GS
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on September 18, 2015, 11:47:19 AM
Just thinking, would those orcs look good as ogres if painted with different skin colours?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on September 18, 2015, 01:32:10 PM
The TRUE nature of the Orcs comes to the fore: i.e., SNAPPY DRESSERS. BEAUTIFULLY painted & base...VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: grant on September 18, 2015, 01:57:42 PM
The TRUE nature of the Orcs comes to the fore: i.e., SNAPPY DRESSERS. BEAUTIFULLY painted & base...VERY WELL DONE!

I enjoy your responses with their emphases and never ending positivity  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Lowtardog on September 18, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
I have a mere six Great/Mercenary Orcs. I really like the figures, but it's difficult to fit them into my collection/budget unless I find bargains. Below are the painted ones together. Four is the minimal I need to put a unit on the table under my current plan, so I'll finish the last two at a later date.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/grorcs03_zpsfxh9lqyk.jpg)




Absolute beauties :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Argonor on September 18, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
Just thinking, would those orcs look good as ogres if painted with different skin colours?

Orcs always look good in other skintones, but I think they would be a bit scrawny (for todays standards) as ogres.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Admiral Benbow on September 18, 2015, 07:26:40 PM
What a beautiful thread and project! Very nice painting, creative ideas AND good pictures - what else would we need?
 :-* :o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 20, 2015, 06:01:34 AM
What a beautiful thread and project! Very nice painting, creative ideas AND good pictures - what else would we need?
 :-* :o


Some battles?  :-I
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 24, 2015, 05:56:08 AM
I swore I was going to finish the black knights before moving on to other things. But then a few Westfalia samples appeared in the mail and they naturally jumped to the front of the line! At least they're only a small distraction. ;) I haven't decided what livery colors to use yet.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wsthbtwip01_zpschfpmimc.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: LordOdo on September 24, 2015, 09:02:51 AM
I'd go with something completely different to the yellow-blue Marienburg livery. So green-red or someting. Black-orange would be very cool, or how about purple-white?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 24, 2015, 09:10:04 AM
I'd go with something completely different to the yellow-blue Marienburg livery. So green-red or someting. Black-orange would be very cool, or how about purple-white?

Good suggestion, but please avoid green-red (it always seems to look like a tacky Christmas effort IMO...).

What about light grey or off-white and turquoise? Close enough to the blue/yellow to fit in as allies, but also different enough to stand out too. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 24, 2015, 04:07:33 PM
I was thinking of avoiding green, as I hope to have militia & scouts in more earthy greens & browns. I was thinking that red would add some visual "punch" to balance their small stature. Probably red & white.

Combining a couple of suggestions above, purple and grey aound like they might be a good alternate to red or some sort of red + ? combinaton. I might run with that. Thanks for the ideas!

Going to look through some books for inspiration for a badge/symbol/charge/blazon or whatever it's called. I like the idea of an acorn, but not sute if that's a little cheesy or cliché.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: LordOdo on September 24, 2015, 05:34:00 PM
Good suggestion, but please avoid green-red (it always seems to look like a tacky Christmas effort IMO...).

:D Especially halflings would look like Santas elves.. :D

I like the idea of an acorn, but not sute if that's a little cheesy or cliché.

For Wood elves it would IMO, but halflings would be okay. I hope to get myself some of Westfalia's halflings soon, and I think I'd go with something less prestigious, like an old shoe/sock or something... feel free to copy that if you like :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on September 24, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
:D Especially halflings would look like Santas elves.. :D

The daft thing is that green and red are (or should I say were) the most common colours for the Moot! At least according to the Uniforms and Heraldry book. There the Moot's banner was a fighting cockerel. (Though still acknowleging this isn't strict Warhammer World ;) )

Looking forward to see what you go with and how they turn out. I have a soft spot for halflings. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 25, 2015, 10:09:45 AM
The daft thing is that green and red are (or should I say were) the most common colours for the Moot! At least according to the Uniforms and Heraldry book. There the Moot's banner was a fighting cockerel. (Though still acknowleging this isn't strict Warhammer World ;) )

I knew someone would mention that!

I still think it's an awful colour scheme though - so hard to get right unless you go for something broody, and that somehow seems counter to the other stuff ZeroTwentythree's painted.  :?


I was thinking of avoiding green, as I hope to have militia & scouts in more earthy greens & browns. I was thinking that red would add some visual "punch" to balance their small stature. Probably red & white.

Well, it depends on how much you want them to stand apart from your Marienbugers too I guess. If they are a totally separate force, you don't really need to choose anything that's sympathetic in terms of colour scheme!

If you want to stick with greens, you can always "pull" the colours around a bit to get something less garish and more earthy. For example, the green could be a bit darker, and the red could be changed to an earthy orange. Or the green can be lighter, and the red can be pushed into a ruddy brown/burgundy. Or you can choose any green (mix it up in the unit if you want) and add contrasting neutral colours to it like a warm off-white or a pale blue-grey.

I think adding bright red to a green colour scheme, whilst tempting and obvious, is hard to do without making the halflings look like Santa's elves. If you're after other spot colours that work, you could use a bright ochre yellow, a bright teal, or even a little magenta perhaps?


Going to look through some books for inspiration for a badge/symbol/charge/blazon or whatever it's called. I like the idea of an acorn, but not sute if that's a little cheesy or cliché.

Well, if they are meant to be militia, gatekeepers, wardens, etc, then you could go with unit symbols like a gate, a key, a bridge, etc. You could even combine a couple of elements like a key crossed over a spear or halberd, for example.

I guess if yo come up with a little bit of narrative for who they are, where they come from, and why they've formed a unit, things like colours and badges would be a bit easier to pin down.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on September 25, 2015, 03:00:46 PM
I knew someone would mention that!

I still think it's an awful colour scheme though - so hard to get right unless you go for something broody, and that somehow seems counter to the other stuff ZeroTwentythree's painted.  :?

Oh, agreed! I should've been more plain that it wasn't a suggestion. :D I'd started to paint my halflings with green and yellow unifiers, which I gather are more M-E hobbit colours, but that sounds a bit close to the greens and browns of 023's militia etc. I agree that a bit of playing around with hues and tones might be in order.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 25, 2015, 10:11:31 PM
Bright green and yellow would be a good way to use green, but differentiate it from the more toned down & earthy colors of militia, scouts, etc. But I went with purple & grey for something different and striking. I still need to decide on a symbol/blazon/device/badge/whatever-you-call-it for the standard and possibly on other figures in the future.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wfhbt05_zpsz7favoxt.jpg)

My fondness for this range of figures just keeps growing. They look nice in photos online, but they are even better in person. The proportions, the crispness & detail, the poses, the concepts -- all awesome.

On the one hand, I'm looking forward to the Kickstarter, but on the other I've got to come up with some money to pledge towards it. I think I'm going be digging through my existing collection to sell off some stuff to fund a shedload of halflings.


While waiting for putty to cure on another project, I cleaned up some recently stripped Oldhammer figures, and took the plunge and assembled the Lord of the Feast. I ended up covering the awful arm joint with a band of putty.  That should help reinforce it too, since I didn't pin it.

My thought is that the Lord of the Feast will join the Life & Death elementals in their old rolls in Warhammer, as "daemons," or lesser avatars of various gods.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/avt01_zpsukclljcy.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on September 25, 2015, 11:11:44 PM
They've come out very nice. The colours work well together.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: LordOdo on September 25, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
A half rainbow could work very well for the emblem me thinking
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on September 26, 2015, 03:20:45 AM
Nice paint job.
Those privateer press minis look huge in comparison. Good choice making them a demon or some sort of avatar.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on September 26, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
The Little Guys look TERRIFIC; their rich & flashy livery seems appropriate with all that expensive armor. BEAUTIFUL brushwork & basing finish the look perfectly. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: CarlLeyland on September 27, 2015, 09:48:02 AM
Amazing work and really interesting to watch your army develop....some of these figures are new to me. Thanks for sharing this.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Dr. Moebius on September 27, 2015, 04:17:19 PM
I wish I could keep up a project like this for that long time.

Great ideas, great paint jobs and great choice of miniatures!

My honest respect!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 28, 2015, 11:19:32 AM
I'm surprised that you ditched the green/earth tones on the halflings, but I confess that I generally prefer more striking schemes for fantasy regiments/armies.

Either way, very well done - I think they look excellent! If you're still after a device for them, I think a gold/yellow key would look pretty striking against those colours. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on September 28, 2015, 03:31:12 PM
Agree - something yellow/gold. Maybe a knife and/or fork?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on September 28, 2015, 03:31:35 PM
Or a spoon!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on September 28, 2015, 05:31:18 PM
A crossed key and spoon?  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Thew1 on September 28, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
 :-*  :-* Those halflings are superb zero23. Excellent models expertly painted. Some other ideas for blazons/emblems if you are looking at a militia or watchmen background for your hobbitry in arms could be a tower gatehouse, a portcullis (and these could be combined with crossed keys to Labour the point if reqd). Alternatively, Ripon where I grew up in North Yorkshire uses the emblem of a horn to symbolise the nightwatchman who still sets the night watch to this day by blowing a horn at the four corners of the market square.

Lovely stuff, keep it coming  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 29, 2015, 02:30:15 AM
A lot of good ideas, thank you all for the input. I may end up using several of them in the future, as I have more hobbit (and human) units planned.

I like the horn/night watch. I don't think I will be used on this group, but I'm going to keep it in mind for another in the future. Keys & towers are good. I'm trying to stay away from some of the Warhammer cliches of spoons & chicken (or other fowl) legs.

I'm also thinking about using a rabbit or hare as another idea.

I think the yellow/gold/or at the bottom of the banner looks pretty good with the other colors, so I will probably be using that as a third color. Starting to seem a bit royal!

Background/concept for the hobbit units is still solidifying in my mind, so nothing's quite set in stone yet.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 30, 2015, 12:16:04 AM
As far as rabbits, the first thing that came to mind was something like...


(http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Immediately+had+to+think+of+this+s+_db604f013c9dd8a10361d51e52624bee.jpg)

or

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vOfZA8ULg9k/VEHelVC9DVI/AAAAAAAAJRo/45g9v3bBrHo/s1600/90e7e09f56927aa5810eab9b864c9ab0.jpg)


But I also like something like this, minus the lion...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/80/7a/70/807a7090587d37308c210fc6de0ff1fb.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: LeadAsbestos on September 30, 2015, 01:31:30 AM
I'm a sucker for all things Watership Down, so you know what gets my vote!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on September 30, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
I do like the Bunny with sword & shield also...maybe you could substitute a War Pig for the Lion. For an attitude you could use Gujosec's Snake-Hare:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yi5sWrf91wo/Vgu9Pm3Z2nI/AAAAAAAAHto/6Hpuv8jhVNE/s600-Ic42/gujozec_by_gujozec-d3k577j.jpg)

...cool although creepy, eh?!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Hammers on September 30, 2015, 03:10:00 PM
Thanks!

I've been procrastinating on these, but really think that the Undead need at least one unit. I've painted up two to see how they look & get a feel for the process of painting them. I really like these figures, aside from some of the skulls sculpted into the armour, and the bat-winged shields. I did end up replacing some of shields and cutting off a few bat wings from helms. I'm already tempted to get a second unit of these. (Still tempted to do a second unit of the converted heavy skeletal infantry, too.)


Great PJ on these.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 01, 2015, 01:10:55 AM
Stuff! In the Mail!

Traded with Death for some old figures.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skeleloot02_zpsbyhce089.jpg)

Now I just need to find a few more wights to round up enough for a unit...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 08, 2015, 05:15:10 AM

I have been experimenting with some road terrain that I've had in my head for a while, but was finally inspired to start after reading an entry on another blog. I'm not going to copy all of the details here (feeling lazy) but you can read about it here:

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2015/10/road-warrior.html
http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2015/10/road-warrior-pt-2.html

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20151007_171255_20151007183701842_zpsg3ytnnsz.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 09, 2015, 04:34:12 AM
I made some more simple road sections to see how it looked in place. Also a few more thoughts/ideas. The photos are large and clickable, so I will just link to it here...

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2015/10/road-warrior-pt-3.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on October 09, 2015, 11:56:35 AM
I think they look fine, if a bit high off the table.  :)

I'm curious though; since these are laid flat on the table, why didn't you just use the roll of textured vinyl on its own? I can't see the floppiness of the vinyl being a huge issue when placed on the table unless it's thin like wallpaper.

Speaking of wallpaper, you can usually get a sample piece from most stores for free, and one piece is more than enough to make a tonne of terrain. You can likely find something with a suitable texture, and is an old trick for texturing large areas quickly and cheaply! ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Corporal Chaos on October 10, 2015, 05:03:56 PM
Outstanding! I just pages through this thread and am stunned at your quality of work. Nice job.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 13, 2015, 03:00:52 AM
I'm curious though; since these are laid flat on the table, why didn't you just use the roll of textured vinyl on its own? I can't see the floppiness of the vinyl being a huge issue when placed on the table unless it's thin like wallpaper.

Speaking of wallpaper, you can usually get a sample piece from most stores for free, and one piece is more than enough to make a tonne of terrain. You can likely find something with a suitable texture, and is an old trick for texturing large areas quickly and cheaply! ;)

I wanted these roads to be raised. Above the marsh and bogs. I will be doing some ground-level roads eventually, though they will probably be dirt/mud.

I had done a little looking for wallpaper, but hadn't found anything I liked and lost patience with that hunt very quickly. I've seen a lot of good stuff on other people's blogs, etc. but have no idea what its called or where to find it.



I've left the simple cork roads sitting on the table for a bit now, and I think I'm getting used to them. I think I will just leave them as they are for now, make a few more, and keep going with other things. I can always add more detail to them later.

So, in terms of moving on to other things, the road looked like it needed more bogs around it. At some point I hope to work out a way to tie all of the little bogs together a bit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/smmrsh02_zpscca1t65y.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mrshtb02_zps9gmk44if.jpg)


I continue to procrastinate in regard to those Black Knights. I've made a rule for myself that I will not paint any more figures until they are done. That is why I now have a few road sections and more bogs (not painting figures!), and a few more miniatures prepped (not painted!) Joining the Life & Death Elementals is the Plague Elemental. It's the weak link in the otherwise outstanding Citadel Elemental series, in my opinion, but I'll see if I can do a better job painting it this time around. I just finished stripping the really old paint off of him. I finally managed to strip all the old paint off the Ral Partha Jabberwock as well.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jbrplg_zpshgj0zmfb.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2015, 04:31:48 AM
I made actual progress on the black knights. I didn't have a lot of time to work on them, but I am celebrating the little victories.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/blkn04_zpsmslirxrl.jpg)


I know what I want to do wih the rest of the cork, but similarly limited in time. I did cut & paint a couple of angled segments, and two ruined segments.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/road05_zpswp9ytlps.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 21, 2015, 06:13:24 AM
I finally finished the Black Knights, and have the too-contrasty out photo to prove it.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/blkn05_zpsipjadxj9.jpg)


Do we get names anymore? Do we know who sculpted/designed these at GW? Whoever it is did a great job. My painting is just OK, but the figures are so nice they elevate a mediocre paintjob and look great on the table.


I recently (and unexpectedly) won a lowball bid on some of the really old plastic skeletons. They were already assembled, though they required some minor repairs & repositioning. Painting was quick & simple, and I worked on them as I finished the knights. So now I have some lighter cavalry as well as the heavies.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skcav01_zpsrszf8a22.jpg)


I have also re-based a giant hawk/eagle that was on loan to a friend while I repaired his (newer & bigger) eagle. I believe this is an old Grenadier model, and was painted ages ago.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ghawk01_zpsw7tvdyq0.jpg)


Now that the Black Knight monkey is off my back, I can think about what to do next. I may paint a few of the individual figures I've prepped recently. Maybe I can think about the next unit (or large critter!) to paint while I do that. Maybe something with a bit more color...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on October 21, 2015, 08:03:52 AM
Nice. I like that eagle. That's a "monster" mini I dont have that need to get.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on October 21, 2015, 11:48:35 AM
Well done on the cavalry - they look great!

No idea who sculpted the BK - not only do GW no longer publish the artists any more, it's also possible that the plastic kits designed digitally are the work of more than one person.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Elbows on October 21, 2015, 12:28:42 PM
Stunning work as ever, the skeleton cavalry look particularly good.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 22, 2015, 04:34:48 AM
Thanks!

It wasn't originally part of the plan, I'd love to add some more of those old "bare bones" (haha) cavalry to the army if I can get some at a cheap price again. These were a bit of a surprise win on eBay.



No idea who sculpted the BK - not only do GW no longer publish the artists any more, it's also possible that the plastic kits designed digitally are the work of more than one person.

Even more impressive if it's more than one person working on the multi-part kit. In any case, if the anonymous designer (or someone they know) sees this: great work.

While I'm not a huge fan of some of the aesthetic directions GW has gone in for quite a while, I think some of the plastic kits they've done more recently are really amazing. I wouldn't mind painting up some of the Wild Riders/Sisters at some point. The Nurgle fly critters look pretty tempting too -- though I would probably leave the riders off.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 26, 2015, 10:07:13 PM

Painted two individual figures. First up is Phil. Phil the Spectre. He's a plastic "wight lord" kit from GW, and as with the black knights, I'm really impressed at the quality. Phil will probably end up leading a skeletal infantry division. I think it's only appropriate to give him aggressive & violent stats, and the ability to cast some sort of "wall of sound" spell.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/phil01_zps4suu4akt.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/phil02_zpsizbe0ytr.jpg)



Next is a figure I sculpted long ago. I have a handful of castings from when it was available from Black Orc Games (they seem to have disappeared?) I've only painted one of them before & thought I would paint one to fit with the palette of the current project.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gv02_zps5pwawyb9.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/gv01_zps0hsriwbt.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Reed on October 26, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Looks like a very chaotic vulture-man kind of sorcerer.
Love the wight lord, I think the Vampire Count range was one of the most improved with 8th edition.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Argonor on October 26, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
First up is Phil. Phil the Spectre.

lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on October 27, 2015, 02:41:46 PM
The undead are real winners. I just love that vulture head creature. Very creepy, great colors.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 28, 2015, 02:56:36 AM
Looks like a very chaotic vulture-man kind of sorcerer.
Love the wight lord, I think the Vampire Count range was one of the most improved with 8th edition.

I agree. I'm looking for an excuse to pick up the bat dragon critter at some point.


lol

I'm glad someone found that amusing. I was as proud of the name & abilities as I was of the painting.   ;)





I finished the second Jabberwock. This is a 1980s Ral Partha figure. A pretty good match for the Citadel Jabberwock!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jbbw0201_zpsl601bwrb.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jbbw0202_zpsjejaizkz.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jbbw0203_zps4w89pdgm.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: grant on October 28, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
Fantastic Jabberwocky!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Reed on October 28, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
The Jabberwocks remind me of that little sneaky alien racer which appeared on that Star Wars movie, the one that should've never existed...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 30, 2015, 07:49:03 PM
Thanks!


One last figure I was painting along with the last few, the old Citadel "Death Elemental." Turned out a bit dull with the usual color palette. But then, I'm not sure he should be any more colorful or exciting. Not a very good photo, either. He's on a 40mm base, to give an idea of scale.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/d01_zpsly3hc54x.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on October 30, 2015, 08:52:28 PM
The Jabberwocks look SPECTACULAR...GREAT brushwork & basing as always. The Ral Partha piece does have noticeably better posture. AND Death looks equally good for the same reasons; actually he looks  more the snappy dresser than I normally picture him. VERY WELL DONE once more!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2015, 09:53:53 AM
Some lousy photos of one of the next things on my table. A pair of old Marauder dwarf swivel guns. I bought them eBay ages ago, but the package arrived damaged and a few parts were missing. It's taken me years to finally get around to creating a few replacement parts (one and a half of the two frames) for the guns. My plan is to mount these on 40mm bases and use them to bolster my insufficient numbers (10) of Marauder dwarfs with handguns.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwswv02_zpshgoexpsa.jpg)


They're cast in a very soft, presumably lead-heavy alloy. You can print pretty clearly with them on paper.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwswv01_zpsiqtrnx4m.jpg)



My time the past few days, however, has been taken up with building a mask for my daughter. She has been changing her mind every few days as to what she wanted to be for Haloween. With just a couple days to go, she really wanted to be a dinosaur. I ran out of time for some of the details (and rest of the teeth). As it turns out, the poor kid is really sick and didn't wear the mask anyway -- though she did go trick-or-treating for just a bit, dressed as Super Girl.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/trex01_zpsima4ktom.jpg)


At the end of the day, T-rex (shown here after my daughter had painted it earlier in the day) got into some of the left-over candy. It is a well accepted fact that T-rex was not just a predator, but was an opportunist not above scavenging.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/trex02_zps9xyultbe.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: LordOdo on November 01, 2015, 01:27:21 PM
Your Super Girl has a Super daddy whoade a fantastic looling mask!  It looks really great!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on November 03, 2015, 11:39:58 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/jbbw0203_zps4w89pdgm.jpg)

Absolutely beautiful! A really good match for style and size too. :-*

Some lousy photos of one of the next things on my table. A pair of old Marauder dwarf swivel guns. [...] My plan is to mount these on 40mm bases and use them to bolster my insufficient numbers (10) of Marauder dwarfs with handguns.

Great idea, I look forward to seeing how these turn out. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 19, 2015, 06:54:04 PM

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwfhg01_zpsgadtbyke.jpg)

This is 5 of the 10 I have. I hope to have the first of the two swivel guns (and crew) done soon, too. My goal is to get them all done by the end of November. Unfortunately, I have noticed something... my plan was to put the swivel guns & crew on 40x40 bases and have them occupy the space of 4 regular handgunners. But I don't think 40mm is enough depth to fit the gun frame and the crewman holding the back end of the gun. Maybe make them 40 wide by 60mm deep and pretend the extra depth isn't there for gaming purposes (as much as possible)?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on November 19, 2015, 07:54:28 PM
Looking good. My limited experience of games is that frontages are more important than depth. Do what's best for the miniatures (think of the miniatures!).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2015, 05:55:17 AM

I think I agree.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwswv03_zps8cslebch.jpg)

(Not done painting yet.)

They fit diagonally on a 40x40, but just barely. Not too fond of this look. So I think it's going to be the 40x60. The extra depth shouldn't cause a problem in most games I will play, and if I get more handgunners, then I can use the swivel guns as light artillery, at which point the base size shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on November 20, 2015, 07:23:06 AM
Definitely option B, and I already assumed they'll be light artillery. For the reason you outlined (the "if" being a "when" though).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Shaved Dwarf on November 20, 2015, 01:25:20 PM
Yes, the 60mm depth base is much, much better.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2015, 09:13:04 PM


I'm sold. Still might add some more detail to the base.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwswv04_zpsl3qg0uwv.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwswv05_zps5oryzuhr.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on November 20, 2015, 10:14:30 PM
ALmost forgot about the swivel guns.... They'd make a nice pair of pistols for an ogre...  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on November 20, 2015, 10:37:31 PM
Quote
They fit diagonally on a 40x40, but just barely. Not too fond of this look.

Agreed. Never liked the look of minis stuck diagonally on a square base. Especially when it created the impression of a whole unit looking off to one side. "Hey look, a squirrel! Look, everyone! Squirrel!"

Still might add some more detail to the base.

That was quick.  o_o Looks great!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 22, 2015, 05:00:41 AM

I've really been itching for a game of some sort. It has literally been years since I've played any miniatures games, or board games not meant for children aged 4 or less. I rambled a bit about my plans, and included some links to rules, army lists, etc. and I'm to lazy to copy it all over so... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2015/11/planning-game.html

Spoiler alert: I made up my mind to take fantasy Hail Caeser for a test drive.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Elbows on November 23, 2015, 12:29:31 AM
Might I suggest Lion Rampant (or wait on the Dragon Rampant)...you could use all of your figures and it's super simple, doesn't worry about basing etc.  Cheap rulebook and very easy to get back into the swing of things.  Very non-crunchy and easily adaptable to all kinds of miniatures.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on November 23, 2015, 07:13:49 AM
Might I suggest Lion Rampant (or wait on the Dragon Rampant)...you could use all of your figures and it's super simple, doesn't worry about basing etc.  Cheap rulebook and very easy to get back into the swing of things.  Very non-crunchy and easily adaptable to all kinds of miniatures.



I second that.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: frenchfever on November 23, 2015, 09:27:13 PM
HOT STUFFS !  ;D ;D ;D   
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 23, 2015, 09:35:31 PM
I second that.

And thirded! It's a great system - really quick to pick up and, despite its simplicity, brimming with tactical nuance. As Elbows said, basing is entirely unimportant, and with the "strength points" rule from Dragon Rampant (explained on Dan's blog (http://merseybooks.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/dragon-rampant-strength-points-explained.html)), you can have units of any size.

Also, for solo play, the fact that the Wild Charge rule gives an element of AI might make things flow quite well. You might represent a lot of your Undeadish as Fierce Foot, in which case they're acting autonomously whenever they're within charge range of their foes. And the same would apply, presumably, to your undead knights. So I think you could get a pretty good solo game fairly easily.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on November 24, 2015, 01:31:12 AM
To be honest I'm kinda curious to hear more about how the Shadow Storm rules play. :) Can't fault the recommendations of Lion/Dragon Rampant, except it doesn't cater so much for war machines. Dunno what you'd do with the war wagon and swivel guns. (Reduced model units of crossbowmen? Maybe...)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 24, 2015, 02:33:09 AM
I overlooked Lion Rampant initially because I thought I had read that it was a smaller, skirmish type game, rather than a large battle game like Hail Caesar/Shadow Storm, Legions of Battle, Hostile Realms and some of the others that have been nearer the top of my list. Or am I wrong...? Sounds like I should give it a better look, from the strong recommendations.

As far as Shadow Storm, I like the basics of Hail Caesar, but the Shadow Storm skeletons will have some very prominent rules that I'm curious to see in action. Fear will wreak havok (or Disorder, at any rate) on the mortals, and although missile casualties to the skeletons will mount, they won't be slowed down by missile fire, so it will be hard to break their formation without slugging it out in melee. I am treating the "Undeadish" as mortals to mitigate this a bit, and also to add a bit of variety. In the end, I may tweak the Shadow Storm rules a bit, depending on how it plays out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Elbows on November 24, 2015, 04:03:56 AM
It can scale pretty well from what I remember.  It's maybe not regiments but a standard unit is either 12 or 6 guys, and you can field as many of these units as you want.  It's based on a "half or more alive" and "half or more dead" so you can really make the "guys" in a unit into wounds for large creatures and it doesn't affect the game.

If you're wanting to field 300+ figures I'm not sure if it's the right one.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 24, 2015, 01:02:20 PM
It can scale pretty well from what I remember.  It's maybe not regiments but a standard unit is either 12 or 6 guys, and you can field as many of these units as you want.  It's based on a "half or more alive" and "half or more dead" so you can really make the "guys" in a unit into wounds for large creatures and it doesn't affect the game.

You could also scale up the unit sizes without any problem. So, if you wanted to field a unit of 24, or 36, or 48 skeletons/Undeadish, you could just count double, triple or quadruple casualties. It would be perfectly possible to treat each base as a figure, if you wanted to field units of that sort of size. And they needn't even be multiples of six or twelve: you can use strength points to record the casualties and just remove figures in rough proportions. That involves no more bookkeeping than some five-bar gates (or scribbled numbers) on the roster.

What strikes me most about Lion/Dragon Rampant is that it's a game that works with the number of models often employed in Warhammer games. But the odd thing about Warhammer is that it's really assuming that one figure equals 20. Rick Priestley is very interesting on that here (http://www.nirya.be/documents/priestly.pdf):

RP: Well, did you know, that’s precisely how the game dynamics were built? It assumes 1:20. Because I played so much WRG Ancients! So, when we came to do Warhammer, the dynamic of what the game is was largely driven by that. So, the size of the units, and the way they move over the tabletop, was driven off that scale. And some of the manoeuvre rules are based on the big scales. In reality, ten men do not wheel – you don’t have to. So although in Warhammer you always talk about and treat the miniatures as if they were 1:1, for the purposes of developing the game they’re often treated as 1:20. It is a strange abstraction. But it is an abstraction that is invisible. When you portray that to someone who is a prospective young gamer, they don’t immediately say “Ooh, there’s some strange scale anomaly going on here”. It’s not obvious. They take it as read that this is how you should manoeuvre.


That is, Warhammer is really about a game with much larger forces than are represented by the individual miniatures, whereas Lion/Dragon Rampant is a game that simulates a clash of the number of models that you actually see - small bands of warriors rather than hundreds-strong units.

One way in which that works is that units "clash" rather than getting bogged down in melee. It's a slight simplification or abstraction, but it seems to me to give a really convincing simulation of the way that small groups would fight.

And it works really, really well with multi-based figures. I've used a couple of old HOTT armies, along with individually based skirmish models. Both work fine, but the multi-based forces make a smooth, fast game even faster and smoother.

Finally, there are huge possibilities for fiddling around with how you want to represent (for example) your Undeadish ogres. Are they equivalent to heavy cavalry? To a reduced-size unit of Fierce Foot (perhaps with the shiny armour upgrade in Dragon Rampant)? Or to a slower-moving but tougher heavy infantry unit? It looks like Dragon Rampant will include loads of ways to tweak profiles (and it's out in just three weeks or so!).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 25, 2015, 06:05:16 AM
I'm flexible with numbers, basing, and figure scale. What I'm after is a solid "feel" of large regiments & large battles. I don't want to worry about individual figures. I want to see how a regiment acts as a unit.

As much as I enjoyed WFB (or at least 3rd-7th editions,) it always seemed stuck somewhere between large scale battles and 1:1 skirmishes, regardless of Rick's intentions. But it never seemed a perfect fit for either scale. I think that Warmaster, and subsequently Hail Caesar (Black Powder, Pike & Shotte...) not only capture the feeling of a large battle better, but do so in a graceful and accessible manner.


On to some pics...

For about seven years now, I've been participating in the "Pleasant Surprises" miniatures exchange at Warhammer-Empire.com. We secretly exchange (usually, but not always) painted figures with other members. I just received my surprise in the mail, courtesy of King (on that forum,) from the Island Fortress of Malta (or the catacombs thereof)...


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/surking2015a_zps2ulgdrpk.jpg)

A new (anti-)hero!

I couldn't resist getting a shot of him leading some troops against Marienburg...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/surking2015b_zps8ezvvj8q.jpg)


He's a great addition to the army. I hadn't thought of painting gold/bronze armour and I really like the way works with the color palette of the rank & file troops, but still makes him stand out as a leader. 
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 25, 2015, 01:11:46 PM
I'm flexible with numbers, basing, and figure scale. What I'm after is a solid "feel" of large regiments & large battles. I don't want to worry about individual figures. I want to see how a regiment acts as a unit.

Ah, I see. I think Lion/Dragon Rampant is perfect for 1:1 figure scale, as its units behave much as small groups of men (goblins, zombies ...) would. But if, say, 12 skeletons actually represent 1,200 skeletons - Army of Darkness rather than Jason and the Argonauts - then it's less appropriate. That said, there are some additional rules (on Dan's blog or forum - I forget) for flank attacks and the like, which would make it much more appropriate for larger figure scales. I should note, though, that LR/DR is all about units rather than individuals (unless you use a single figure for a unit to represent a hero or a wizard or something).

As much as I enjoyed WFB (or at least 3rd-7th editions,) it always seemed stuck somewhere between large scale battles and 1:1 skirmishes, regardless of Rick's intentions. But it never seemed a perfect fit for either scale. I think that Warmaster, and subsequently Hail Caesar (Black Powder, Pike & Shotte...) not only capture the feeling of a large battle better, but do so in a graceful and accessible manner.

I agree entirely. I think Warhammer worked best in its second edition, where the units were small and narrative scenarios were the main thing. Undead and ratmen raiding a monastery? Dwarves protecting their mine from orcs? A hobgoblin caravan under attack from nomad raiders? These were the scenarios that saw the game reach its peak, in my view. And that, incidentally, is the scale that Lion/Dragon Rampant works so well for. By third edition, the "mass battle" aspect had taken over, and  that, as you say, didn't work nearly so well. The tension between the 1:1 ostensible figure scale and the 1:20 tacit assumption increased dramatically with all the manoeuvring rules, and the "stat up anything you like" side of things faded and vanished.
 
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Metternich on November 28, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
Nice to see those old renaissance dwarves put into action.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 03, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
Slow progress lately. But I finally finished the second swivel gun.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwswv06_zpsq4hgvijc.jpg)

In digging around through old minis, I found a light gun on a Burgundian carriage (Old Glory? Front Rank?) that looks about the same size/caliber as these swivel guns. I also have somehow ended up with a lot of extra Marauder dwarf artillery crew. So I think that may get painted up as a third light artillery to go with these.

I have also recently acquired a small unit of the old Disciples of the Red Redemption. There are 11 figures, but I would like to bulk that up a bit. So I rummaged through the lead bins and came up with these as possible additions...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/disciplerecruits_zpsjpj39qlk.jpg)

The only one I am definitely including is the guy on the left. I think he will make a great addition. Not certain of the others. (Center-right figure has been Phnotoshopped a bit, to remove the crucifix from its hands. I would replace this with something else.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 05, 2015, 05:09:23 AM
A few odds & ends.


One of two beastmen I'm painting for someone I semi-regularly paint on commission for.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/jbst01_zpsf7ko5p5z.jpg)


As I mentioned previously, I think I'd like to get at least a small solo game in before the end of the year. I think going all year (yet again) without even a single game of something will be too depressing. I've got a lot of elements for a narrative campaign floating around in my head, and have started structuring it a bit and sketching out scenarios. One of the first is a caravan ambush. So I dug out my wagons...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wggnemp01_zps3qobx9os.jpg)

I am long overdue in building/painting something to actually go in the back of the wagons, instead of just a bunch of empty wagons rolling around. So I think this may have to be another upcoming project. My plans for a last push of skeletons in Deadcember seems to be slipping from my reach.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wstcssc02_zpsoi1qenqc.jpg)

You know what else I really need? I need to dig though my painted figures for a few civilian-ish figures to use as drivers/handlers for the wagons. So they don't look like just really well trained or magically guided horses & oxen.


Although I don't consider myself a big spender anymore, and think I have dealt pretty well with my extremely small gaming budget, it was tough sitting on the sidelines through some of the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales. There were a few really great deals. I just kept reminding myself that I still have a bunch of figures to paint, and (as mentioned above) haven't actually played a game in years. At the last minute, my will broke and I made one small purchase. It arrived already.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20151204_194702_zpspjo77lo2.jpg)

I had been planning on getting the Bones version of this figure at some point -- in spite of all the problems I've read about that version of the figure -- because of the massive difference in price. But when I saw it for cheap, I convinced myself to get it as a birthday (next week) or Christmas gift. No one ever gets me gaming stuff for either. I'm even thinking about wrapping it up and putting it under the Christmas tree.  :wink:

Honestly, I shouldn't complain anyway. Although I was tight on gaming funds, I did mange to scrounge up, barter for, and be gifted (without a reason other than good ol' individual generosity!) with some cool figures this past year.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Elbows on December 05, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on December 05, 2015, 09:25:22 PM
One of two beastmen I'm painting for someone I semi-regularly paint on commission for.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/jbst01_zpsf7ko5p5z.jpg)

Gorgeous brushwork there, you have a real knack for bringing out these models with nice schemes! I have to say, I really really liked the 5th and 6th WHFB Beastmen models.

(Probably shouldn't say this so that Ii don't tempt you, but I'd love to see what you can do with a little Beastman army...)


But when I saw it for cheap, I convinced myself to get it as a birthday (next week) or Christmas gift.

In case I forget then, Happy Birthday!  ;)


No one ever gets me gaming stuff for either. I'm even thinking about wrapping it up and putting it under the Christmas tree.  :wink:

 :'(
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 06, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
(Probably shouldn't say this so that Ii don't tempt you, but I'd love to see what you can do with a little Beastman army...)

Haha, my mind was already wandering into... "these are some nice figures, I wonder if I should...."   lol

But I think I will remain focused. For now.


In case I forget then, Happy Birthday!  ;)

Thanks!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 09, 2015, 05:55:23 AM
Still not much time for painting lately. But I did finish the second commissioned beastman, shown here with his friend from last week.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/jbst02_zpspojzsxfb.jpg)

I've got one other commission figure I need to get done before jumping into my goals for "Deadcember." But it's a big resin one that seems to be half scrap, and will take a major cutting, filing & sanding. In fact, I've never seen a model that requires as much work as this one. And with the holidays approaching and some big tasks I need to wrap up for my "day job"... I'm not sure I'll get to paint much of my own stuff nor play that game I wanted before the end of the year.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 11, 2015, 11:22:11 PM
At the risk of being a little spammy...

Take a look at my stuff for sale: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=82983.0


I am broke, but I really want to shovel piles of money at the Westfalia halfling Kickstarter. So any sales will be recycled into halflings! Thanks for looking (and hopefully helping me build an army of halflings!)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Major_Gilbear on December 12, 2015, 12:49:31 AM
Still not much time for painting lately. But I did finish the second commissioned beastman, shown here with his friend from last week.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/jbst02_zpspojzsxfb.jpg)

These are gorgeous! I know you're not doing Beastmen, but if you did...  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 24, 2015, 01:40:25 AM
Thanks to Timbor & Von Kurst, I've now got a coven of insidious cultists. I think I will leave these individually based, so they can be more easily used for smaller/skirmish games.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/drr01_zpskuuw2wok.jpg)

I am still on the search for the champion from the Disciples of the Red Redemption (old RoR from which most of these figures came from.) That figure plus one more figure (probably the robed familiar I posted previously) will bring the total up to 24, which will be a pretty respectable number, allowing me to field two small 12 man units, a standard 16 man unit, or a large 24 man unit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rrchp_zpszgdjdn2r.jpg)

Unfortunately, every time I plan to spend an evening relaxing at the painting table, some new work or family situation pops up, demanding my attention. I've also been fighting off a persistent case of (possibly) pneumonia since the beginning of November, so I've sometimes been going to sleep earlier than usual, too. So "Deadcember" has been pretty dead, in terms of painting. Maybe the new year will bring some painting time.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on December 24, 2015, 02:38:47 AM
The Evil Doers look SPLENDID, a very impressive looking group. When you are up to it, enjoy the painting et al!
I can identify with the semi-comatose feel of the season; of course with moi, it could just be the old age thing.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on December 24, 2015, 08:55:12 AM
To think a couple of years ago I had all those minis. Wish I could have helped you. Looking forward to seeing you get back to it. Hope the illness doesn't set you back too much.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 24, 2015, 10:14:16 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/mcromir_zpsnwc2yb0j.jpg)

Enjoy your holiday of choice, y'all. Or don't. Crom does not care.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Rhoderic on December 24, 2015, 10:19:13 PM
Enjoy your holiday of choice, y'all. Or don't. Crom does not care.

Then to hell with Crom! :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on December 24, 2015, 11:35:48 PM
lol image stolen.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2015, 03:08:24 AM
Then to hell with Crom! :)

 lol. Well played.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 03, 2016, 07:28:11 PM


Provided I can get back to the painting table sometime soon, what will I be working on in 2016? Well, like most wargamers/painters, that's subject to constant shifting attention... Although I do think I stuck to my one little project pretty well last year. I've got one or two things to finish for other people first. But after that, I've got a rough idea of some things I want to work on for myself in 2016. In no particular order, here are a few:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/2016up_zps0osz56vc.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwltgun_zpsiboxbk2a.jpg)



I took a few minutes to try out a possible solution to needing plastic shields similar to the old elf shields. It's polystyrene sheet, cut to shape, headed and formed around a dowel. Still needs a bit of refinement -- not quite there yet. White it mine, grey is a GW shield.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/polyshield_zpsqxxyxebg.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on January 03, 2016, 07:40:17 PM
Can't wait to see those wights painted. I love those minis.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 03, 2016, 08:27:14 PM
COOL STUFF! I love the frame gun & the Dwarf Crew. Have FUN with the painting et al!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 07, 2016, 05:24:51 AM
Thanks. I got the gun painted (easy) but not the crew.

I finally grabbed a few hours today to paint! As much as I need to wrap up some painting for others, I really needed to do something for myself (fun, no pressure, etc.) to de-stress a bit. Plus, I really didn't have that much time, so it was speed painting rather than nice detailed painting.

I painted up a small unit of skeleton guard (old 4th ed. Citadel wights.) Not as good looking or dynamic as the Warmachine Bane Thralls I used on my first unit of skeleton guard, but they have a certain retro-charm. Plus I got them in a trade for some other old figures, which is more agreeable with my limited gaming finances.

I think my home-made shields turned out pretty decent looking!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/4thwgt01_zps05vf2duy.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on January 07, 2016, 07:37:00 AM
Shields turned out great. I really like how you paint the metal on your undead. What paints do you use?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 07, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
The shields are TERRIFIC; AND the brushwork & bases are up to your norm high standards. VERY WELL DONE again!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 07, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
Shields turned out great. I really like how you paint the metal on your undead. What paints do you use?

Thanks!

Starting with a black base coat, I generally use these, from left to right. Base coat steel, wash black, then splotch & stipple with  3 layers of orange, then paint edges and other areas where I imagine rust might be scraped away with some silver.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rustymetal_zpspymofz2c.jpg)


It changes, though. I'm not a fan of the latest Citadel metals, so I'm starting to use Vallejo metals more exclusively. Sometimes I will do some blacklining (or brownlining?) with a detail brush and either thinned paint or the Nuln Oil or something-something Earth (the dark brown one) Citadel wash. Sometimes I will use some brown paint before starting with the oranges for the rust.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Timbor on January 07, 2016, 02:22:13 PM
They look great, and the rust turned out quite nice.

One thing I have found - I like the vallejo game air metallics better than the game colour ones - especially the silver.  I find that the Game Colour (and GW silvers) end up being really thick and they don't thin as well as non metallics.  The VGA have really nice flow, and the coverage is pretty much as good as the VGC.

Just in case you were planning to buy more vallejo metallics in the future.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 09, 2016, 05:55:13 AM
They look great, and the rust turned out quite nice.

One thing I have found - I like the vallejo game air metallics better than the game colour ones - especially the silver.  I find that the Game Colour (and GW silvers) end up being really thick and they don't thin as well as non metallics.  The VGA have really nice flow, and the coverage is pretty much as good as the VGC.

Just in case you were planning to buy more vallejo metallics in the future.

Thanks for the tip. I will see if the local hobby shop has the air paints. And, yes, I think I'm done with the GW metalics.




Shocking, but yes -- another update.

Two reasons for this. One is that I got Stuff! In the Mail!

I'm relatively (just since last year) new to the Lead Adventure Forum, and as time allows, I've been catching up on some of the great projects documented here. One of my favorites, and most inspirational, is that of DeafNala. If you somehow haven't seen it yet, then check it out. All of it (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=26140.0). Somewhere around page 201 there is a link to a Photobucket account full of photos, too.  ;)

Somewhere in response to my praise and worship, I received an offer of some mushrooms, and a significant batch of both painted and unpainted ones recently showed up on my doorstep.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/deafnalashrooms01_zpshovjgbo1.jpg)

They're even better in person! So now I'm churning around several plots on how to make use of them on my own gaming table. I'm a little intimidated about painting the unpainted ones, so I am trying to decide on a good way to paint them so they are different, but work well with DeafNala's own painted 'shrooms.


I have also just sacrificed some more of my much needed sleep in return for some much needed painting time. I really wanted to finish up one other thing of my own that's been sitting half-complete since... I don't know, spring or summer? I wanted a hodgepodge unit of beastman-esque skeletons. I painted half of them ages ago, and the rest included a few more that needed built, plus a few metal figures from the Cursed Company.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/bstskl01_zpsfsabltnu.jpg)

There's a mix of figures & minor conversions here. Stock figures include a skeletal saurus, orc, and two skaven from the Cursed Company, and two skeletal dogs from Mantic. The rest are 4th/5th ed Citadel plastic skeletons with various additional animal skulls & bits.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Little Odo on January 09, 2016, 07:52:07 AM
Great looking bunch of old bones.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 09, 2016, 01:13:23 PM
The Mushrooms look happy in their new home...TERRIFIC photo.
AND the Mostly Dead Beasty Boys look FANTASTIC...GREAT brushwork & the gradient bone shades are WONDERFUL. OUTSTANDING WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2016, 06:11:47 AM
The Mushrooms look happy in their new home...TERRIFIC photo.
AND the Mostly Dead Beasty Boys look FANTASTIC...GREAT brushwork & the gradient bone shades are WONDERFUL. OUTSTANDING WORK!

Thanks. I really have to credit my newfound fondness for washes glazes for the look of the skeletons. I'm still debating the details of basing the mushrooms, but hope to have them in some scenes on the able soon!



I don't think I posted this pic, but a few weeks ago, during the dry spell, I stole away a few quick minutes to some hobby related stuff. Two measuring sticks. They can serve the dual purpose of being compact measuring devices for Hail Caesar related games (Shadow Storm, Pike & Shotte, etc.) and also serve as highly visible photographic scales if I do follow through with the idea of doing remote gaming online. This is a very rough idea of what an overhead shot (or part of one) of a battle might look like if I do that. The sticks should help give a remote opponent a more fair concept of distances.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/oheadtest01_zpslztfbbmc.jpg)


Quick base colors on the dwarf light gun and crew. Along with the mushrooms, DeafNala also sent me a second light gun on a Burgundian carriage that was a pretty close match for the one I had. Both of which are similar caliber to the swivel guns. So I dug through the lead stash and came up with two more spare crew. I paint the crew separately, then add them to the base when they're done. These crew are more medieval than renaissance, but I'm OK with that. It's a fantasy game, and dwarfs are all about tradition, and I really like the figures.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/2dwltgunswip_zpsszdaln9q.jpg)

This will bring my dwarf totals to 2 units of spear/pike, a partial unit of handgunners, and 4 light artillery (which I may just "brigade" together into a unit.) That seems close enough to a division/contingent of its own. At some point I would like to pick up just a few more figures to round it out. Maybe some more handgunners -- though I am thinking about just rounding out the unit with command & accessory figures. I would also like a heavier unit of infantry. I've been drooling over White Knight's figures for years. At the very least, I should get a unit of dopplesoldners and/or halberdiers.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: white knight on January 11, 2016, 08:37:12 AM
This will bring my dwarf totals to 2 units of spear/pike, a partial unit of handgunners, and 4 light artillery (which I may just "brigade" together into a unit.) That seems close enough to a division/contingent of its own. At some point I would like to pick up just a few more figures to round it out. Maybe some more handgunners -- though I am thinking about just rounding out the unit with command & accessory figures. I would also like a heavier unit of infantry. I've been drooling over White Knight's figures for years. At the very least, I should get a unit of dopplesoldners and/or halberdiers.

There's also a swivel gun and some more engineer types in the range if you want.  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: pocoloco on January 11, 2016, 12:06:54 PM
Just jumped aboard this thread and read through it all. Great paint jobs all around and amazing pace with completing items so fast  :o

I already forgot if you have mentioned your secret bone colour recipe yet? :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 11, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
The overhead photo is GORGEOUS...shows off the troops & road in FINE fashion. GREAT WORK!

If you can, definitely get some of White Knight's OUTSTANDING creations. They are an absolute joy to paint.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2016, 05:54:56 PM
There's also a swivel gun and some more engineer types in the range if you want.  ;)

I saw those. If I could, I'd just order up an army of everything. ;) But I think I will have to stick with filling a few holes in the existing collection, and even then I'm probably not going to be able to order for a while. (Especially since our clothes dryer and my car both decided to fail in the past two days....) I think the greatswords and just a few handgunners are really at the top of my list.

I think I may have mentioned this, but back before your project, I drew up some sketches for 5 greatswords in this style and had wanted to try my hand at sculpting & casting them. (And some ogres.) I got side-tracked and it never happened. I think I still have the drawings. Who knows, if I ever manage the time I may try my hand at it someday. I did convert & paint up a couple of old figures, though.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/dgs02a.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/dgs01.jpg)

I swear I had one more -- a Marauder spearman with the spear removed and replaced with a shouldered greatsword. But he seems to be AWOL from both photos and my collection at the moment. I fear I may have imagined the figure altogether.  o_o



I already forgot if you have mentioned your secret bone colour recipe yet? :)

I don't stick with one recipe. If I am painting a full unit of skeletons, I will base coat them in groups, using about 3-4 different shades of white through light tan. Then I'll shuffle those up into mixed groups, and give them washes with one of 3-4 different shades of brown(ish.) Depending on the figures, I will also go back and do a bit of detailed shading with thinned out paint (or pre-mixed wash) anywhere from dark brown to black, and may highlight with some shade of white. I'm pretty free-form with painting, and tend to get lost in the process, just doing whatever looks & feels right at any given time.  ;D

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 11, 2016, 07:52:59 PM
The Little Guys with the BIG swords look TERRIFIC...GREAT brushwork & converting. The one eyed, peg leg Fellow is an old favorite. SPLENDID WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Lowtardog on January 11, 2016, 08:14:49 PM
I noticed werewoolf minis are sculpting some nice ogres which would fit right in, pricey but nice
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2016, 06:55:10 AM
The one eyed, peg leg Fellow is an old favorite. SPLENDID WORK!

I admit, it felt slightly blasphemous cutting him up, even though it was just a minor weapon swap.


I noticed werewoolf minis are sculpting some nice ogres which would fit right in, pricey but nice

They definitely have some nice looking figures.




My phone has trouble photographing white, so this is hard to see. But I accidentally started making this tonight.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro01_zps40bmbvxe.jpg)

I saw one of these Bones orcs when I went to a local store to pick up a few paints I needed. Still some work to do, like the weapon and tail. It's a bit of an experiment. A prototype, perhaps...

This idea -- and specifically, using certain Reaper orcs -- has been in my head for a while. I've had some ideas about my Althammer setting and campaign, too. And I've been thinking about a few different ideas for some more minor players and also the "historical" context. Eventually I'll write a bit of my own, but for now, an excerpt from WFRP "Marienburg: Sold Down the River" for some of the inspiration.

Quote
But sometime after the departure of the Elves and the Dwarfs and before the arrival of Man, Chaos and evil came, spreading like a cancer from the north and the south. The Skaven, digging their tunnels like cracks meant to undermine the continent, burst forth from the abandoned mines and ravaged the surface. Within a few decades, the land was a ruin: the herds were slaughtered, the waters poisoned and the groves cut down. Marching like vermin into the north of this realm, they found the Fimir, a race of reptilian giants who themselves were remaking the land in their own blasphemous image.

War was inevitable. For how long it raged, only the Fimir and the Skaven know, and certainly no one is asking them. The Skaven built great castles to hold their conquests, and slowly they pushed the Fimir back. In the end, there came a cataclysm that decimated both sides. Whether it was a last desperate effort by the Fimir, an attempt at final victory by the Skaven, or even a rebellion by the earth itself doesn't matter. Great waves of magic washed over the land and the earth convulsed and cracked. In a night, the castles of the Skaven and the holds of the Fimir were thrown down as the very bedrock heaved, broke and sank. Their armies were destroyed and their minions crushed or swallowed whole. By dawn the next day, only the land itself remained, nearly empty of life and hiding its wounds under a thick blanket of fog.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on January 12, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
Looks good! The head swap/sculpt is almost enough on it's own to transform the mini.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Timbor on January 12, 2016, 02:40:54 PM
That fimir does look convincing.  Where did you get the head from?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
My own attempt at a quickly sculpted head. My putty is a bit past it's prime, and I'm way out of practice. So it's not necessarily great work.


Here is a little more work and some better photos. The tail is pretty crude. I initially thought I would prefer a plain tail, but I think I would like to see what it looks like with a clubbed end. I don't care for the scale & taper (not enough) of the tail, either. I've tried drawing & building a few quick weapon forms, but haven't got anything I'm really fond of, yet. (This is not glued in the hands yet.) I'm going to try a knobby or spiked cylinder mace head next, maybe later tonight.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro02_zpsnrrtieye.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 12, 2016, 08:53:10 PM
Actually the head is quite a nice sculpt. From the reaction, you probably could sell some if you cast it up...he/she/whatever does have a charming expression.  GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 13, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
Thanks!


After trying a few other weapon & tail options. Also chopped down the boots and sculpted bare feet after someone on FB pointed out that the boots looked out of place. Not perfect, but good enough for a "rough draft." Going to try a quick paintjob on it & see how it looks. If I still think the idea has potential, I'll try doing a few with cleaner sculpting, more detail, etc.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro05_zps9wof1v3w.jpg)

If I do continue on, I *may* try making a mold for a few heads and tails, so I can convert a bunch of these without having to sculpt each individual. If I get *really* caught up in this, I may try finding some unarmored bodies. Maybe a robed one, too. ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 14, 2016, 06:46:18 AM


I've apparently had some sort of fire lit under me with this little side-quest. Started painting, not quite done but so far I'm really liking the way it's turning out. I can also see some of the things I'd like to do different next time, details to add, etc.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro06_zpsyxxq3xwf.jpg)

And a shot with some other large figures, plus my usual reference model, to give a sense of scale.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro07_zpsk2l2hvka.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on January 14, 2016, 08:27:12 AM
That looks great. If you're making more and wanting variety in tails I reckon a Stegosaurus type tail would look good, that with a spiked club would be a cool combo.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: white knight on January 14, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
It's fantastic! The painting really made it come together!

If you're going to use bones, perhaps sculpt and cast some feet as well, anything to speed up the building should help you to avoid running out of steam.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Elbows on January 15, 2016, 12:43:28 AM
Man that is shockingly cool..and as always, phenomenal colour palette.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 15, 2016, 03:53:09 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone.

I agree completely in regard to the tail. Although I did try a few different tails (and weapons) I didn't spend nearly as much time on any of them as I should. If I continue on I will definitely do better. I was in a hurry to see a painted figure with the general shape so I could get an idea if I would like what could be done.

I *do* like where it is going. Now I have to decide on how big of a project I should let this become. ;) If it's more than a few figures, I think it would make sense to try casting some heads & tails. Possibly weapons, too. And maybe feet, too. But that's a bit trickier since they are particular to each figure and I would need  to figure how to replace the existing ones efficiently (so that it's less work that just sculpting feet on each figure individually.) But converting the figures involves more than the sculpted bits. I have to drill, cut, shape, clean, etc. each original figure, and then there is a it of filling/sculpting at the joints of the new bits to get them to look right. That gets me wondering if it would be worth trying my hand at just finishing the job and sculpting my own bodies & arms so that it all fits better to begin with, and eliminates a lot of the chopping up of existing figures. And if I do that, should I just go back to the drawing board entirely and come up with something more original. I don't want to invest a bunch of my time copying someone else's designs. Once my thoughts have come around to this point I'm starting to wonder what I've got myself into and should I just stick with a couple of figures and forget the rest before I let it get out of hand. ;)

As far as requests for making cast bits available to others, that really depends on how far I go (if I go anywhere at all) in regard to the above and what sort of moral & legal grey areas I wander into.

Also, I've only done resin casting with someone else guiding me through the process, and although I have most of the equipment, I still need to put together my pressure tank. For that matter, my sculpting isn't quite expert level either. I love the idea of expanding & improving my limited skills, but there are a lot of questions about how well I could pull any of this off. Converting one figure is one thing, but building an army based on a lot of sculpting & casting is another.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on January 15, 2016, 04:53:23 PM
And that's why I only converted one high elf. lol ;)

Painting of the fimir is brilliant. What your general recipe for the bronze metals? I think I might like to nick it, soon.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 15, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
And that's why I only converted one high elf. lol ;)


Hahaha. No doubt. It looked good, though!



Painting of the fimir is brilliant. What your general recipe for the bronze metals? I think I might like to nick it, soon.

Just Vallejo Model Color Bronze, followed by a whatever Citadel is calling their black wash this week (other times I use the dark brown Citadel wash instead) then do a little highlighting/feathering with the original bronze, a bronze/gold (Vallejo Model Color, again) mix, and then straight gold. In this case, I also went back with a very thinned out black paint and my "eye brush" (finest brush, mostly used for eyes) and gave the joints between the armor chest/belly plates an extra bit of definition.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 16, 2016, 03:02:58 AM
OUTSTANDING! That really is quite a SPECTACULAR paint job...I love your color choices. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 16, 2016, 04:22:39 PM
Last pic of the Fomorian. Finished painting & basing.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro08_zpscl7ajfev.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Vermis on January 16, 2016, 05:35:32 PM
Just Vallejo Model Color Bronze, followed by a whatever Citadel is calling their black wash this week

Aha! It so happens I have bottles of both lying around. :D Ta!

The finished fimir looks great. It ties together nicely. The mushrooms are a nice touch!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Elbows on January 16, 2016, 06:41:54 PM
Yep, that's very good...possibly my favourite bit of this thread.  I particularly like the blank liquid eye.  I vastly prefer that appearance for most creatures. 
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: beefcake on January 16, 2016, 07:41:07 PM
Wow, I never made the link between fomor and fimir. Even with all the fluff being centred around that area (albeit in the GW world). Those are really nice. I have a bunch of Bones orcs like that that could do with some converting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 19, 2016, 05:14:23 PM
Yep, that's very good...possibly my favourite bit of this thread.  I particularly like the blank liquid eye.  I vastly prefer that appearance for most creatures.  

Thanks. I thought I remember reading that their eyes were described like that somewhere. I might be wrong, though. I do wish the photo hadn't washed out all my shading on the eyeball, though.


Wow, I never made the link between fomor and fimir. Even with all the fluff being centred around that area (albeit in the GW world). Those are really nice. I have a bunch of Bones orcs like that that could do with some converting.

Heh. Prepare to have your mind blown, then. lol Have you read Moorcock's second Chronicles of Corum? The "Fhoi Myore" (Formorians) are are a race in decline. They are ancient creatures who have been abandoned by/cut-off from the powers of chaos that previously supported them. Their armies, which are shrouded in mist, are attacking the younger race of men, and remaking the land as they conquer it.

The largest differences are that they not only bring the mists/fog, but the land becomes frozen as they conquer. The Fhoi Myore themselves are few in number, and are commanding armies largely made up of other creatures (hounds, ghouls, the "Brothers of the Pines" who were the inspiration for my own Undeadish.)

Moorcock hardly invented this either, since much of it was borrowed from Irish myth to begin with. But he did set it within his ongoing "multiverse" with the chaos gods, portray them as an abandoned race in decline, hiding in mists, etc.

 o_o




Started working on some new heads. A couple seem OK, a few others might only be good enough for practice.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmheads01_zps5dw8mgw2.jpg)

I might just go ahead and sculpt a bunch after all, instead of casting. I would still love to try casting, but that involves some of practical problems that I'm not sure how to overcome. Besides, I think still need more sculpting practice before I've got some good enough bits to make it worth the work to cast anyway. On the other hand, I would love to be able to make castings, then clean those up further, maybe sculpt some variants, and then use those for final casts. Does anyone with resin experience know if I can get good quality casts for heads and tails like this without using a pressure tank? While I would love to use it, the tank is what presents the most problems at the moment.

I should probably start thinking about getting some more orc bodies.

In addition to the orcs, I might check out this ogre body, also sculpted by Tre Manor. Hopefully it's a similar size. http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones%20ogre/latest/77105
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: rednorseman on January 19, 2016, 06:38:22 PM
Wonderful job -really terrific!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: DeafNala on January 19, 2016, 07:50:16 PM
The Heads look TERRIFIC & with just enough of cartoon/caricature to them to give them a charming expression. OUTSTANDING WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Timbor on January 19, 2016, 10:05:03 PM
Those look great from here!  What are you using for sculpting, and why do you prefer it over the ubiquitous green stuff?  8)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 19, 2016, 11:13:45 PM
It's ProCreate

http://www.kraftmark.biz/kraft.procreate.html

I used green (and experimented with brown and mixes of the two) Kneadatite for converting & sculpting. A few years ago, just before my hiatus, I discovered ProCreate and I'm a huge fan. I think it's far easier to work with. It's not too different. But greenstuff is a bit rubbery. So it tends to spring back a little bit, and when you push or pull with your tools, it tends to move as a mass. I also never got the hang of smoothing (feathering?) new layers of greenstuff onto old. I always got visible seams & bumps and could never get the GS thin enough. ProCreate has almost a slightly waxy feel to it. It's easier to isolate just one part of the fresh putty you're working on, and I find it easier to smooth & blend onto existing surfaces.

For large scale sculpting (mostly toys so far, but could be used for monsters, terrain, etc.) I've been using Ave's Apoxie Sculpt. Blends well, easy to work with, but not quite as good for small details on miniatures. Lubes well with water (I usually use plain Chapstick on greenstuff & ProCreate.) Cures rock-hard, can be drilled, etc. Good for some things, but again, not what I want for miniatures.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Justin Buck on January 20, 2016, 01:25:23 AM
Very nice conversion/sculpting/painting.  I have a few of the old HeroQuest fimir laying around somewhere and I think I might try and paint him similar to yours.  I never understood why GW dropped them from their line, but then again I don't understand half of what they do now.  They always seemed very mysterious and ancient race.  Can't wait for more.

Justin
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 23, 2016, 05:52:18 AM
Fomorian Conversion Bits

The practical issue I am still stuck on is where to cast. My attic and basement are both cold until spring. The attic has very poor ventilation, and the furnace in the basement draws in air to blow into the rest of the house. So both of those areas seem to be impractical for both temperature and ventilation reasons.

So I'm worried that this little project might be stalled. If I can't manage any casting, I may just scale down to a few figures using all one-off sculpted bits. The heads & feet aren't too difficult, and it will give me extra practice to built my humble sculpting skills. And build character. And patience. ;)



BOOM!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwltgn01_zpsshgq76xm.jpg)

Finished the light gun I got from DeafNala, and its two dwarf crew. Not the best pic, but the only one of about a dozen that was even decent. I'll get a good group photo when I finish the last of the light/swivel guns.



Remote Gaming... as a Neutral GM?

I couldn't sleep last night, and in my tossing & turning my mind started wandering into the idea of remote gaming again. I have a new idea I may like to try out. Instead of me vs. an opponent, I'm thinking about running a game with me as a GM, and two or more people acting as generals. Either one general per side giving orders for multiple commands, or multiple generals per side, each with their own individual command. Sticking with my original plan (for now) of using a fantasy mod. of Hail Caesar, it would work something like this:

1. Orders. Generals all privately email me orders for all of their units/brigades, in the order of importance (which goes first.)

2. Moves. Simultaneous. I will make all of the command roles and move the units per the generals' instructions.

2.b. Wonky simultaneous movement thing. If a unit approaches/ends within 1" (or maybe 2"?) and a charge wasn't declared AND the unit(s) would be in a situation where they could otherwise charge (haven't maxed out on movement, didn't blow any leadership tests, are a troop type able to declare a charge against the target, etc.) then I will contact the relevant general(s) and ask if they would like to attempt a "last minute charge" or hold. They would have to pass a second leadership test (at a penalty?) to pull off the charge.

3. Shooting, Combat, etc. I think most of the rest could be handled pretty normally. I would ask each general to name their targets for any shooting or melee attacks. Then I would roll the dice and give the results. Fleeing/routing/etc. units could get a little messy, but as a third party I could sort that out.

I would try to leave as much decision making up to the generals for anything else that came up. I would be the figure mover, dice roller, and write the narrative of the action. As a remote third party GM, I could also increase the "fog of war" element by keeping players blind to some things, like hidden movement, secret objectives, unexpected events, and other surprises. I could also keep players blind to the particulars of their opponents armies. So you might know what you see from the pics and description, but not exact stats.  :evil:

Visuals would be handled publicly online. Probably at my website/blog. (Maybe some highlights posted in the forum.) At the start of each turn, both players would get an overhead shot of the battlefield, with some measuring sticks for reference so they could get a general idea of distance. I would also post some photos or video of some of the battlefield from different angles, along with a text narrative, to help set the stage.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/oheadtest01_zpslztfbbmc.jpg)

I'm thinking about putting together a small test game to try this idea out. Maybe just one player per side for this one. If successful, I could even try a mini-campaign, with a few linked battles, each determined by the results of the previous battle(s) and post-game decisions (regarding options presented to them) made by the players. But I shouldn't get too carried away.

Not sure how much interest there would be in something like this. (I know at least one person.) I only need a few volunteers, and although a basic knowledge of the HC rules would be beneficial, I could/would give a basic rundown of how things work. The important thing (for players) would simply be good general decision making & issuing of orders based on common sense wargaming concepts... hit enemies in the flanks, keep heavy units out of bad terrain, heavy knights are probably going to be able to beat sickly goblins armed with dull twigs, etc.


REMINDER

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/2016-01-22%2010.02.44_zpsj3na2lpg.jpg)

This was in the window of my daughter's daycare classroom today. These are usually things they've been learning about, that you can bring up on your drive home. I don't know if I can answer this one. It's like a reminder of what I'm giving up for my hobby.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 26, 2016, 05:57:20 AM
So I worked to get the stars to align so I could do an initial test mold & casting and...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/nosil01_zpsgre9j3vd.jpg)

The silicone was totally solid in the jars. So... waste of money, waste of time. Getting frustrated ready to give up.

Also (finally) finished a 120mm hoplite for a friend. Can't get a decent pic, and I although I'm generally happy with it, I screwed up the composition of the design on the hoplon. I don't have the time nor patience to repaint the whole thing, unfortunately. So... no pics.

But I do have this little guy for the Oldhammer forum's chaos village...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/krnchld01_zpstetfr8tb.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: von Lucky on January 26, 2016, 06:09:05 AM
Sleep is important. Allows you to reset and start the problem afresh. The undead are restless for a reason - they don't sleep.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on January 26, 2016, 07:50:09 AM
Brilliant painting as always, but the heads are absolutely brilliant. Did you sculpt them from scratch?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 26, 2016, 10:25:12 PM
Sleep is important. Allows you to reset and start the problem afresh. The undead are restless for a reason - they don't sleep.

I went to architecture school, so I am acquainted with expert level sleep deprivation. ;)


Brilliant painting as always, but the heads are absolutely brilliant. Did you sculpt them from scratch?

Thanks! Yes, I sculpted them. I'm about to start another round, and have only got to the first step. :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro09_zpshteglneu.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 27, 2016, 05:02:48 AM
Looks like resin's back on the table, boys!

After spending too much time and paying more than I had planned, I got it, I did it, and it worked pretty f'ing well. I really needed this boost of confidence.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro10_zpsdtpmzshx.jpg)

I figured it would be a hassle trying to mix just a single head worth of resin, so I mixed extra and poured an old mold I had from a casting class I took a while ago. (I had been thinking about using some these as some weird terrain bits, so it won't go to waste.)

Going to make molds of the rest of the heads. I had been wondering if the single piece block mold would work well enough, but it worked beautifully. So I don't think I need to so two-piece molds for these heads at all. I still need to decide whether to do them individually (like this one) or whether to "sprue" them together in one or two group moulds.

I'll mold & cast up some of this first round of heads, but my plan is to still work on refining the sculpting. I also need to get the tails right. I've been experimenting, but I'm really having trouble getting them right. But it's good practice. And I'm eliminating a lot of bad ideas.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Vermis on January 28, 2016, 08:54:40 PM
Luvly.  8) Looks like great, crisp casting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on January 29, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
Both pieces look SPLENDID! VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 30, 2016, 06:20:10 AM

I made two more molds of Fomorian heads, one with a single head, the other with the better four of the batch that has been sculpted so far.

My initial resin pull the other day must have been beginner's luck, because tonight I had a lot more trouble -- especially with that mold. In fact, it got a bit torn up from trying to retrieve heads from the cavity. I was having problems with bubbles at the small joint between the head and the "funnel" into which I pour the resin. I got better at avoiding this, but what really made the difference on the last two pulls was using a syringe to fill the head with resin.

So here's tonight's haul:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro11_zpsflfw2tdb.jpg)

That's 19 good heads, four more that have small bubbles at the back of the head (simple fix,) and five bad heads. Of the five, I could probably reconstruct the back of three heads, or they may become the start of converted variants with some sort of headgear/hood. The other two are unusable for anything.

I'm still working on sculpting some decent tails. But for the moment, I seem to be on the tail fail trail....

I should start thinking about getting my hands on some more Reaper orcs (I only had the one) so I can see if I can sculpt & cast replacement feet, or whether I will have to sculpt them on each individual figure.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 01, 2016, 01:39:50 AM

After three months, my dwarf light artillery is done...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dwltgnall_zpsy8bh6j0c.jpg)

Not a great phot, unfortunately. And I already know... missed the mold line on the wheel...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on February 01, 2016, 07:36:07 AM
Nice. Great skin tones.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 01, 2016, 10:18:04 PM

I was impatient to see what how the cast Fomorian heads look, so I quickly cleaned up and painted one of each head, separately mounted on a bit of wire.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro12_zpswltxml2i.jpg)

On closer examination, they aren't as cleanly cast as they initially looked. I am doing all of this without a vacuum chamber or pressure pot (for now) so there seem to be some very minor bubbles in both the molds and a few of the castings. Given that this is my first time, and that they are so few and so small, I'm not at all disappointed. I only needed to do a quick bit of cleanup.

Painting them up also revealed some weak spots in the sculpting, which is helpful as I plan on doing more and this will help me recognize where to improve. I doubt I will cast more than a few of heads A & B. Head E looks a bit off -- I think the nasal holes were a bit mismolded or miscast, so I'm going to take a look at whether that needs a small repair before more casting. I'm pretty happy with C, D & F.


Should I share these heads?

When I first started, ac couple of people asked if castings would be available. I've been thinking about that. This is really just a personal project, and the quality of both sculpting and casting is still just an amateur/hobby level, at best -- and I'm still working out the bugs of casting for the first time, too! Besides, it's a niche interest within one corner of a niche hobby. But I'm considering doing a one time evening cast-a-thon, set aside what I need, and then making the remainder available for a small price (to help cover materials, postage, and maybe put a bit towards the phase...) or for trades.

I do plan on sculpting and casting a few more heads. And I'm working on some tails, and eventually I may try some cast feet as replacements for the specific figures I'm using in my project.

What do you think? Any interest? I'd like to get a feel for this before casting a bunch of extra heads. Should I wait until I get some tails cast too? (And feet?)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Braxandur on February 01, 2016, 10:50:47 PM
I'm interested!

Seeing what you did with the orc made me drool and think about somehow building some of my own fomor. Basically I have shieldwolf mountain orcs and GW savage orcs waiting for heads and tails  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on February 02, 2016, 12:34:02 PM
A FINE UPDATE! The Fomorian heads look TERRIFIC, as do the Vertically Challenged Artillery. VERY WELL DONE all around!
It's WONDERFUL seeing that Old Gun all painted up.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: wolfie907 on February 03, 2016, 11:56:40 AM
Yes id want some  plus tails and feet
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: white knight on February 03, 2016, 12:15:37 PM
I'd be interested in some as well, heads, tails and feet. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2016, 04:13:44 PM
OK, so when I'm ready to start cranking out resin, I'll probably do a small amount of extra heads, tails, and feet for trade/sale.




Release the hounds.... or wolves... y'know, whatever we've got...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20160202_100813_zpsg6vuodvm.jpg)

I got a bunch of painted wolves from a friend. I may try to get two more for even groups of 8. I've been trying to find a good deal on some current GW dire wolves or chaos hounds for quite a while with no luck, but I can work with these oldschool plastic wolves. I'm going to repaint them and, again, draw some inspiration from Moorcock's second Corum series. In those books, the Fhoi Myore, and in particular Kerenos, are accompanied by very large wolflike hounds that are white except for some red fur on their ears. I'm not certain if he meant "red" as in a natural red hair color in humans, dogs, etc. or red as in crimson or some other vivid hue. I really like the idea of the bright crimson. I'll eventually paint a test figure & see.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 04, 2016, 10:12:30 PM
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The village matron affectionately known as “Ma Khorne” started the village orphanage after her husband, “Pop Khorne,” recently met his unfortunate and explosive demise on the wrong end of an Imperial fire mage and a halfling hotpot full of butter . In anger and sorrow (but mostly anger) she turned to the convent of the Sisters of Perpetual Bloodshed, where she has assumed the role of caretaker and disciplinarian (strict disciplinarian) of the village children whose parents have died or mutated to such a degree that they can no longer care for their own young. Here is Ma Khorne with Oswald, one of the adorable young tykes under her care.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/chvil02_zpsjs1aat37.jpg)

This is my submission for the Oldhammer forum's 2016 Legacy project. This is the first time I'm participating. I love the concept (sort of like a figure lottery) and this year's theme: "C49 Chaos Villagers."

My old chaos figures are/were mostly generic chaos figures, or Nurgle & Slaanesh once the RoC books came out. Khorne always seemed a bit dull to me, both in terms of painting and background. But I'm amused at the idea of devout Khorne followers trying to take part in village life. Unaligned mutants and followers of the other three major chaos powers, sure. But Khorne? So here they are.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on February 05, 2016, 07:10:16 AM
Hah! I lolled.

I like the way you dealt with painting the horns. Very subtle.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on February 05, 2016, 01:11:15 PM
It looks like Hagar's family, Helga & Hamlet at least, has turned to Chaos. The minis are COOL & BEAUTIFULLY painted. OUTSTANDING WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 06, 2016, 06:53:33 AM
Haha, I hadn't thought of them like that, but can definitely see the resemblance!


I had planned on at least molding these four heads tonight, but it didn't happen. I definitely like two of them. The other two I'm not sure about. But I will wait to see a few painted. Just did a few final touch-ups & prep for the mold but probably won't pour til tomorrow.

Making progress on tails. These are better, but still not right. Two had textures, but I filed them off because they looked awful. I'll try a few more from scratch. And even more after that, if that's what it takes.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro13_zpsuqkt047j.jpg)

I'm also making some progress on some commission stuff. Both figures (some are for trades) and vinyl toys.

At the beginning of the year, I posted a pic of some of the things I wanted to work on in 2016 (http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/01/whats-up-2016.html) and I've made surprising progress! I finished the wights, the beasty skeletons (and more!) and the old dwarf artillery. Now I'm reviewing my plans (especially in light of The Fomorian Sidequest) an reconsidering how I'd like to proceed. The one big thing in my mind is that I really want to play a game of some sort ASAP!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 10, 2016, 06:24:17 AM
Over the weekend I made a block mold for those four heads. The next evening I tried a bit of casting and... that didn't go so well. I hit a lot of trouble getting figures out of molds, and the older block mold of four heads tore pretty badly in several places trying to retrieve some of them. I also couldn't seem to keep the syringes clean, and had to use a new one for each set of castings. But I did manage to get three decent sets of the new heads.

I'm learning quite a bit of the subtleties of molding & casting so far -- from both successes and failures. I think that I am ready to move forward, in several ways. I am interested in trying out some of the other varieties of silicone for molds, and I also think that I'm ready to try a two-piece mold!

So here are the new heads....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmpro14_zpscxlreeys.jpg)

Again, I like some, but not others. Some small differences in the way I sculpted these. Going to keep G & H, but will cast fewer of I & J. Just small details. Out of the 10 I sculpted, I think 5 or 6 turned out decent.

Haven't had time to work on tails any more. Nor have I purchased any of the orc figures -- which I need in-hand if I plan on sculpting separate feet that will match the existing figures. And I am now out of silicone. I might have to put the Fomorian Plan aside for a bit, until finances allow for those supplies. So I may go back to working on some other stuff for a while.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on February 10, 2016, 06:51:52 AM
Two piece molds should work a treat for these guys. Hope it goes well for you.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 18, 2016, 08:18:55 PM

I painted a few gobbos in anticipation of using them for my planned (soon, I hope) experiment with a solo skirmish game.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/chgob01_zpsftmiamif.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/hrngobchmp_zpsvxcrlhig.jpg)

The little guys in the top photo are "Chaos Goblins" from RAFM. Quirky figures, but I like them & wish there were more than this single pack. I like the idea of goblins being a heterogeneous species, so I see no problems mixing styles.

I'm not 100% certain of the pedigree of the armoured guy with a helm to rival his massive sword (how he swings that without snapping his own neck, I don't know...) He's available from Ral Partha Europe, but I got a casting from ZN Games via Noble Knight. Unfortunately this one is resin. I'm trying to Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Resin, but this wasn't the best example. He has a few bubbles, and it took three vigorous scrubs to get primer to adhere to the entire figure -- and even then I'm still hoping that it doesn't rub off. (I'm going to encase him in layers of varnish...)

Quick & dirty paint jobs. Literally. I used multiple black washes, hoping to get a dark & sinister look, and a somewhat oily appearance to the steel.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on February 18, 2016, 10:49:01 PM
COOL BEANS! The RAFM & Mystery (I thinks he's a Harlequin. I got him & a cigar smoking Goblin wit a Big Club as a set a long time ago) look FANTASTIC...VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on February 19, 2016, 12:17:54 AM
I like those RAFM ones. The Ral Partha one is on my to get list also. In metal though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 20, 2016, 05:38:39 AM
One other item I recently picked up, along with the goblins in the previous update, and the soon-to-be-former-orcs, was the Reaper Bones "Frog Demon." I thought it would make a good summoned or bound critter for the Fomorians.

For a very, very long time I have stuck with painting techniques that I'm comfortable with, and that have usually worked well with me. Generally speaking, I work from dark to light, and build up a lot of layers, use some feathering, wet blending, and some vague mix of all three at once. When I was (much) younger I experimented more with translucent techniques, washes and what I know understand as glazing. But for the most part, it never caught on with me, other than some limited use of washes. (And some experimenting with dip/wash a few years back, that never really went anywhere.)

Since I've started painting again recently, and since I've been painting a lot of undead and trying to paint them quickly, I've started using washes quite a bit more and it's worked out well. SO I've been doing a little bit of reading (and watching a few YouTube videos) on washes and particularly glazes the past couple of weeks.


I thought the Frog Demon (or Bog Demon, as I think I prefer) would be a good test subject for an all translucent painting experiment. Right from my initial wash it didn't go as planned. Then the first glaze on the body was just as bad... until I decided it was good. So I went with it. I did some more, and more... It's more like a sloppy wash, and looks more like I've painted a three dimensional watercolor. As I was painting, I just let that sort of drive my technique -- very fast, free and fluid brushwork with thin & translucent color. And that's completely OK with me. In fact, I'm really fond of the way it looks, especially on this figure. So I think I might try this "watercolor on miniatures" thing again.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/frgfmn01_zpsoqa8iogy.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/frgfmn02_zpsruo1hf4v.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on February 20, 2016, 06:21:39 AM
Looks great. That's a mini I've been after for a Bit too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on February 20, 2016, 09:22:00 AM
It has worked out well. Moist skin look suits it.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Comsquare on February 20, 2016, 09:38:47 AM
Looks fantastic  :-*

Is that Toad Demon a Bones only or is there a metallversion too?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 20, 2016, 02:31:34 PM
Strangely, looks like Bones only.

Also looks like it's a toad demon, not frog (whoops.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Vermis on February 20, 2016, 03:51:52 PM
Blimey, that's nice!

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It's more like a sloppy wash, and looks more like I've painted a three dimensional watercolor.

Aye, that. I think there's room for more 'painterly' techniques in mini painting, with John Blanche as just one example. I never set aside the time to try it, though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Shaved Dwarf on February 21, 2016, 10:01:28 AM
I think that watercolour-look suits very well on a creature assumed to have a moist skin. 8)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on February 21, 2016, 12:58:14 PM
OUTSTANDING! The colors make the mini AND your brushwork is as WONDERFUL as ever. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2016, 03:28:07 AM
Thanks! I'm still going to tinker with some details on the bog demon a bit, and maybe give him a gloss varnish after the base is done.


My wife and I watched Labyrinth yesterday. It's the first time I've seen it in a long, very long, time. It was far worse that I remembered it.  :-X

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/jarballs_zpsmhi55acc.gif)

But a lot of the goblins were cool and it slightly fueled my recent side-quest into painting a few goblins. I still have a few old Crucible goblins I'd like to paint at some point, but I'm resisting making any plans further than that. But at some point in the somewhat distant future, I may look into picking up some more odd gobbos.


Speaking of picking up things I shouldn't, Warploque Miniatures was having a "last chance" sale on a few old OOP sculpts that had been re-molded. There was one in particular that I had always wanted. I had only a few hours to decide. I took the plunge and this will finally be mine (well, an unpainted facsimile at any rate...)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KpS7KE_TkNY/TzHRWGR4M_I/AAAAAAAABd0/U-8qEhz1gOw/s1600/gIANT1COMPARE-1.jpg)

I had a list of big, "must have," giants that I've waned. Not too rare, but most are usually too expensive for me. I already have the old Marauder giant, The Ultraforge giant, and now this one. Still on my "wanted" list are The Otherworld Giant, and the one from Black Scorpion.

Unfortunately, even on sale, I still couldn't really afford to buy him. So I'm currently going through some more of my stuff and seeing what I may be able to part with to cover the cost.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2016, 11:36:30 PM


Working on some figures for other people...


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/timb06_zpsfcjfzuun.jpg)

(Still a couple of touch-ups on these.)


and...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/justbeast02_zpsnhhr1cwt.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: kidterminal on February 25, 2016, 01:48:01 AM
The fighter types are great very realistic painting. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on February 25, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
Very nice.

I've also scrolled back up to that gif. What is it with me?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 01, 2016, 05:38:13 AM
I've also scrolled back up to that gif. What is it with me?

 lol It's hypnotic?



I finally got a bit of time to do some more casting, and cranked out some more Fomorian heads. I was aided by a small but important equipment upgrade...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/sitm-needles_zps8wpcy0rc.jpg)

16 gauge industrial needles. I also found some cheap syringes, but I think next time I will get at least 5cc, if not larger. Made a big difference. Previously I had been using sharp 21 gauge medical needles with 3cc syringes that I had left over from architecture school (used to use them for dispensing PVA glue on delicate parts of models. These 16 gauge needles have the advantage of being dull tipped, so I won't accidentally poke into the mold. The resin flows so much better, and far easier to clean (and thus, get more use out of each needle.)

My attic is a mess, but I managed to stake out some space for a dedicated (for the moment) casting table. I was previously doing it on my (as yet, unused for games) gaming table, which was flirting with disaster.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/febattic_zps4h2fttkz.jpg)

Casting to the left, and beyond that is my sculpting & painting desk. Gaming table in the right corner. I've started setting up for that Pleasant Surprises skirmish. But now I'm stuck on the idea that I need to put together some more terrain. :roll: The big mess under the gaming table is mostly casting and terrain supplies.

Back to the casting of heads... I think I'm going to sell off a few sets of 10 heads for relatively cheap, and use the proceeds for some new silicone for molds. I used Smooth-On Ooomoo 30 for the heads, but would like to try Mold Star 15 next. Sales will come with the caveat that these are first time, amateur casts and have their fair share of bubbles -- and thus require work to get them into finished condition.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on March 01, 2016, 06:35:30 AM
I'm jealous of that set up. Just make sure you have plenty of ventilation.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on March 02, 2016, 01:40:40 PM
That is a SPLENDID & CREATIVELY MESSY work space. I have an unused game table also; I store my terrain boards on it...seems appropriate.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on March 02, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Needles and CC's?  Are you going to give your miniatures breast implants!   lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 03, 2016, 06:51:12 AM
Around the internets, there have recently been painting themes for various months... Orctober, Deadcember, etc. When I saw the idea for the "Month of Marsh," for painting bog dwellers... I had to jump in it. I've been prepping with various aspects of the project, so I've decided to hit the Month of Marsh theme pretty heavy. So here's my start!


Bog Demon done.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/frgfmn03_zpsaucecznt.jpg)


Started working on my second Fomorian. (Fimir. Whatever you'd like to call it.) Reaper Bones orc with spear (unless otherwise noted, they're all Tre Manor sculpts.) I cut the spear, feet, and head off. Replaced the spear with a less, er, flaccid one (a bit of heavy florist wire and a plastic spear head from some old Citadel kit.) The head is one of my recent castings, and the tail -- which isn't really visible -- is one that I sculpted but don't have an inclination to cast. I still need to sculpt the feet, and do a bit of sculpting to blend the head with the body a bit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fm02_zpsadgrdpyx.jpg)


And lastly, I dug out some old boggy themed figures (already painted) to find a home with the Fomorian raiders. I have two more of the smaller mud elementals (old Crucible figures from Ral Partha) that I've already base coated. I can't recall where the "Swamp Thing" looking guy in the middle came from. At some point these may get rebased.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/lessbogdem01_zpsqhorv2me.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on March 03, 2016, 07:22:32 AM
Love that bog demon.
With the fomorian, I thought you were doing the feet sub,edged in the bog. Could be an easy way to get around sculpting loads of feet?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 05, 2016, 05:26:51 AM
A few people have suggested that. All I did ws cut the front of the feet off, and he's standing on his heels in that pic. The feet are actually really easy to sculpt, so I'm not too worried about it. Still, I do like the idea of wading through a marsh, too, so I ma try that, eventually...



Finished a second Fomorian/Fimir. This one uses another "reject" club tail sculpt. I did end up sculpting the feet on this one, too. The flesh turned out a little too green for my preference. But I would like to have a bit of subtle variation in flesh tones, so I can live with it on this one figure.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fm02b_zpszxsdfix8.jpg)


I have started chopping up a third. Here's the start. My plans are to replace the weapon, replace the feet, cut the spikes off of the pauldrons (my one complaint about these orcs is that half of them have pauldrons -- I would prefer my Fimm without any,) most likely cut the spikes off of the shield face as well, carve out the middle third of the lower armour in the back to accommodate a tale, and, of course, add a tail. May be one more one-off tail.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fm03_zpsoz5mzpdu.jpg)


I continue to procrastinate in regard to sculpting some decent, castable tails. But it needs done. Soon. Besides, sculpting individual tails is even worse.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on March 05, 2016, 05:33:47 AM
Love the Fomorians...keep it up!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on March 05, 2016, 08:54:10 AM
Yep, that's really great stuff.  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on March 05, 2016, 12:10:13 PM
The Swamp Folk all look WONDERFUL...GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Shaved Dwarf on March 05, 2016, 11:00:05 PM
Your Fomorians are a joy to look at!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: maxxev on March 06, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
love those Fomorians, great paint work too!

Would be interested in some parts if you ever have time.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 08, 2016, 07:11:30 AM
Thank you!

As far as making bits available, I'm still debating a few aspects of doing that...



Slow but steady progress...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fm03c_zpsvvxvt7zr.jpg)


Also I think I've decided that smaller & simpler tails are the way to go. I like these two better than some of the others I've posted and/or used. They may be candidates for casting, once they're cleaned up a bit more.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tails_zpsfe4ndpab.jpg)


Still working on commission/trade stuff, too...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/timb07_zpswqi1agea.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on March 08, 2016, 07:22:01 AM
The Fimir may be some of my favourite fantasy miniatures I've seen on this page - wonderful stuff.  Keep em coming.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2016, 06:54:53 AM
Thanks! I plan on it.  :)





Getting my smooth on.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mldstr15_zps54rhhxeb.jpg)

New silicone arrived. I'm going to try my first two part mold in the next few days, maybe a small one for those two tails I posted.

I like how the packaging urgently implores you, "MAKE IT NOW!"

I've also been thinking I should just go ahead and do something to finish this really old & incomplete sculpt. It started off as a one-off, but then I cut it up and reworked it to make it castable. (The arms are separate and just held on with poster-tack in the photo.) But I sort of lost track of what I waned to do with this, and don't have quite the enthusiasm for it anymore. So maybe just a couple of open hands gesturing, except... I'm not sure how well that will work when the plane of the arms/sleeves and plane of the hands are fixed 90 degrees from each other. But, on the other hand, that will make this a good learning experience for mold making, I suppose. But on the other, other hand, I'm not certain what I would do with more than one of him, so maybe I shouldn't waste the silicone on a figure I don't have a use for at the moment. Especially when there are other (unsculpted, as of yet) things I do have a use for. (Like the above mentioned warriors.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/vlt000_zps8ynq48sw.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Admiral Benbow on March 10, 2016, 03:57:09 PM
Great conversions with the Reaper Bones stuff. What are your experiences with that material? What glue will hold on Bones plastic, and what about green stuff? I havn't heard much good about Bones plastic, but on the other hand your painted miniatures show that it can be used obviously ...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2016, 05:12:15 PM
Great conversions with the Reaper Bones stuff. What are your experiences with that material? What glue will hold on Bones plastic, and what about green stuff? I havn't heard much good about Bones plastic, but on the other hand your painted miniatures show that it can be used obviously ...


I've got mixed feelings on it.

The two greatest things it has going for it are the price and the ease with which it can be cut up.

The detail isn't as nice as the metal figures. Some figures have some rough spots, and other have soft detail. The soft weapons can be a big problem, that's why I've replaced several. You can heat the material and re-pose it while it cools down, but it seems like it sometimes still bends back out of place. The flash & mold lines aren't difficult to remove, but they are somewhat difficult to remove in a way that looks good. You have to cut it -- not file or sand. But sometimes little bits of plastic want to hang on, and it can sometimes be tricky getting a nice straight or flat surface when trimming/cutting. For example, I've had some difficulty removing just the mold line without shaving off some thin slices of the "meat" of the figure that I would rather leave on.

I've been using CA/super glue and it seems to work well. So does the putty (I use ProCreate, similar to greenstuff.) I wash the figures with dish soap, and paint seems to stick well without primer. (It is advised not to use spray primer.)

I've painted up the orcs, one toad demon, and one giant and been pretty happy with how they've turned out for my purposes. One orc had a bit of a blobby shape around the ankle & bottom of the greave. But since I'm chopping & rescuplting the feet anyway, I managed to get this to look passable (though not terribly crisp.) Only minor flaws other than that.

Below is the giant. You can see a mold line in the hair. I didn't have the patience to try to clean it. (I know, blasphemy!) There is still a slight bend in the spear haft. It was worse when I bought it, but I warmed up the figure on my space heater til it was soft, then braced the spear in place while it cooled down. After a day or two, it regained a slight bend.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/deadish3lv_zpsvjoxdk5q.jpg)

For painting a detailed show-piece, definitely get metal. For armies on a budget, bones might be a good buy. But I'm not sure about human sized & smaller yet, especially where thin details & weapons are concerned. I can't imagine using it for troops with spears or halberds, for example. But for larger, thicker figures, it seems to be a pretty good buy.

For my part, I will definitely keep buying the orcs for my conversions, and for the most part, use Bones for larger figures. I did pick up the Jabberwock in metal, though, as I wanted all of the nice, clean detail (and no bending!) on that one.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on March 10, 2016, 09:22:13 PM
Your conversion work & sculpting are WONDERFUL...LOVE the Vulture Guy.  OUTSTANDING STUFF!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 11, 2016, 11:53:59 PM

My basic building block is groups of four 40x40 bases for most infantry. So this is my first little milestone, four Fomorians/Fimir.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fm03d_zps4hbqslde.jpg)


That's one prototype, three with cast heads but individually sculpted tails.

I had some ups & downs with my first two-part mold, trying to cast a couple of basic tail designs that I could use for future figures.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tailmold01_zpsdm4mjpx9.jpg)
 
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tailmold02_zpseyvjeo0o.jpg)


First, I mixed up far too much silicone. So the first half of the mold (top) is way too thick, and I still had enough left to pour a single "cup" mold of one of the preferred heads. (Which is an OK thing, I guess because those molds deteriorated quickly -- though I've probably got more than enough heads at this point.)

Next, my first casting (left) didn't work so well. I knew I should have created some vents, but for whatever reason, I decided I preferred the trial & error method of learning. So, I removed the failed castings and then cut some vents (right.) Below is the second cast -- success! (Though not without an air bubble or two.)



So after this whole process -- a few one-piece block molds, and my first two-piece, plus building an initial unit of four figures, where do things stand?

1. A Fomorian/Fimir army is GO. I still need to work out things like what to do for everything besides the armored warriors/Fianna Fimm. But I can see that it's within reach. I will start with roughly a "division" -- about four units of four figures, plus a general, and one or two critters. So with the figures above plus the bog demon, I'm about 25% into that first goal.

2. Casting is GO. I'm still working on refining technique, checking out further materials and tools, and getting better castings. But I've got over the big hump of starting out and achieving a degree of success. I have the equipment for a pressure pot, but nowhere to use the air compressor. I've seen a manual bike pump used before, so I think I will try that. I hope that the pressure pot will produce better molds & castings. I think my next step will be to try molding & casting a full figure or two. That will give me some further practice in all aspects -- sculpting, molding, and casting.



Oooh, and just a week away from (hopefully) getting to play a few games! It has been years since I've played anything, and just as longs since I've seen a lot of my old friends, so I'm really looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Vermis on March 12, 2016, 01:26:36 AM
1. A Fomorian/Fimir army is GO.

2. Casting is GO.

Oooh, and just a week away from (hopefully) getting to play a few games! It has been years since I've played anything, and just as longs since I've seen a lot of my old friends, so I'm really looking forward to this!

Woot!

Particularly on the playing games bit. I can sympathise.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Braxandur on March 13, 2016, 07:54:18 AM
Have fun!

I have had my share of dry spells  (gaming wise) and know how much fun it can be getting back into it, even if only for one game.

Great work on the casting btw.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 14, 2016, 05:44:34 AM




I think I've come to the conclusion that there's no real point in casting this guy anymore, so I'm going to finish him as a one-off for myself and just it done. So I ended up wasting time with cutting the arms off and reposing them. I also wasted some more time today taking another shot at sculpting some hands on him, so I tried out some modified hands from elsewhere. I was working on sculpting over-sized hands on him, but now that I see these, I'm wondering if this is too large. The concept was long arms & large hands to relate to the huge wings of vultures. I may leave this on the desk for a bit so I can keep looking at it and overthink it some more. It's been half finished for years, no point in hurrying now. ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/vult13_zpsvnblfaym.jpg)



I've been wanting to work on the unpainted 'shrooms from DeafNala (look back a few pages) but hadn't made up my mind about colors scheme. I just knew I didn't want to try to replicate the one he used on the painted 'shrooms he also sent. I ended up going with this test subject for two reasons. One is that it's a big contrast with his colors, and is also similar to the tiny purple 'shrooms I put on a few of the recent Fomorian/Fimir bases. This turned out a bit darker, but I'm OK with that. Maybe that happens as they age/grow.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dnshroom00_zps6ryrf4fm.jpg)

I'm thinking about basing them up on some small group bases, with a bunch of plain, tiny 'shrooms around them. Then I can put small patches around other terrain features (next to the barn, in woods or marsh, etc.) or custer them together in a larger 'shroom field or fairy ring.




In the interest of upping my casting game, I've been looking into further info.

I spotted this last year and hunted it down again, and I'm still looking for more information on it. Looks like someone took a couple of heavy duty floor fans, bolted a plate to it, then poured their molds in cake pans. Brilliant DIY spincaster. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153536908324568.1073741869.6524129567&type=3


And some good examples of mold layout & venting. This is the first I've seen of the forum, I may have to dive into it for more useful info. http://www.resinaddict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=721

Another: http://www.resinaddict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=80

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: LordOdo on March 14, 2016, 12:45:17 PM
Oooh love love the vulture guy!! :-* :-*
Such a shame it won't be cast, as I'd definitely be interested (in a few)

Great sculpting!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on March 14, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
There is something cool about having a one-off-never-to-be-seen-again miniature; it's an instant collectible.
I really like the way you did the Mushroom...EXCELLENT color choices & brushwork. I've got to start expanding my range of colors & mushroom types.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Metternich on March 14, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
Wonderful, subtle shading on the Fomorians.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 18, 2016, 09:03:11 PM
Not every painted figure is a winner. Thus, I present, the really crappy giant centipede...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/bigcenti_zps7dkyq3tu.jpg)

I was trying to paint it up a bit like one of these...

(http://easyscienceforkids.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/centipede.jpg)


I also finished & primed the little vulture guy, stealing some Mordheim bits to complete the figure. I figured if it was a one off, I could go ahead and take shortcuts with some existing bits.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/vult14_zpslui0irnl.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on March 18, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
Both look fine.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Vermis on March 19, 2016, 02:34:07 AM
Ditto! Maybe a few darker spots on the head of the centipede, especially the jaws. But otherwise everything looks pretty good.

https://www.svsu.edu/~tkschult/moia/amazonian-giant-centipede.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 19, 2016, 07:07:46 AM
To me the only thing wrong with the centipede is the very human looking eyes.

(http://arthurevans.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/scutigera2.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 19, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
Yeah, that bugs me too. (Heh heh... "bugs"...) They're sculpted that way. Maybe I should still go back and fill them in and paint them solid.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 22, 2016, 03:28:04 AM
I did go back and paint the eyes flat black, to hide the sculpted-on pupils. Also added gloss varnish to the whole thing. Looks better, but not worth a new photo.  ;)



I played some games of Kings of War. And some other stuff. Just going to link to my blog this time...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/03/holy-bog-burgers-i-played-game.html

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on March 22, 2016, 03:41:39 AM
Cool. Where did the centipede come from?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 22, 2016, 04:59:13 AM
Cool. Where did the centipede come from?

Well, depends. Diablo Jon's...

(http://arthurevans.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/scutigera2.jpg)


...is indigenous to the Mediterranean, but has spread around the world, including my own basement.

 ;)

The lead miniature is an old 1980s Ral Partha figure.

.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Vermis on March 22, 2016, 12:28:21 PM
I played some games of Kings of War. And some other stuff. Just going to link to my blog this time...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/03/holy-bog-burgers-i-played-game.html

Wahey! :D I know how it is, going without gaming for a long while.

Quote
I've seen a number of complaints about the mechanic of not removing individual troops. That never came to mind. It's simply not WFB, so I never thought that was something that was missing.

Casualty removal always seemed like a bigger faff to me, even before I played other mass battle games. I agree with your overall opinion of KoW too. And nice score on the fimir!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2016, 11:00:55 PM
My Fimir conversions stalled, but I unexpectedly (and very fortunately!) came into an almost complete set of the old Citadel figures thanks to an old friend. So I've started painting a few of those.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/osfm02_zpssrgpeay1.jpg)


I also finished the unpainted 'shrooms from Deafnala. Now to base them!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/deafnalashrooms03_zpsgjpefkt7.jpg)


Time is very tight lately, but maybe a bit more of the Month of Marsh theme before it's done. And eventually catching up on what everyone else on the forum is up to.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on March 30, 2016, 01:17:30 AM
Hey Zero,

Do you have closer-up photos of your minis somewhere?  I'd like to use some for my game if you're okay with that. 
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2016, 06:20:11 AM

Do you have closer-up photos of your minis somewhere?  I'd like to use some for my game if you're okay with that. 

I've deleted most of the hi-res/original photos. But if there's something in particular you are interested in, let me know and I can see if I can get some good photos when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on March 30, 2016, 12:31:49 PM
Lovely colours on the mushrooms.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on March 30, 2016, 04:40:23 PM
I've deleted most of the hi-res/original photos. But if there's something in particular you are interested in, let me know and I can see if I can get some good photos when I get a chance.

Cool, I'll go through the thread again and see what I'd really like to use.  I'll PM you!  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2016, 10:25:54 PM
The end of the month was a bit of a forced march marsh, but I think I pulled off a respectable little group of figures for a month of work. I did cheat a little, as some of it was started before March, and some of it wasn't painted by me. Not a terribly good photo, I'm afraid.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmarm033016_zpsokgdonq3.jpg)
 
One Dirach, four Fianna, four Fimm warriors, one bog demon, one giant centipete, and eight moor hounds.

 
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/osfm03_zps6iramzb4.jpg)
 
Here are the four old Citadel Fimm warriors I'ev got. Two have scratch built tails.

 
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fimmcomp01_zps2v6peig5.jpg)

I had a request for a comparison photo, so here it is. Obvious style differences, but I had never planned on getting any of the old Citadel figures (nor is it likely that I will get more than the last few I have yet to paint. But I'm OK with how they look together.

My concept of the Fomorians/Fimir (I need to settle on just one name...) leans toward the warrior & raid culture, as hinted at. I don't see the Shearl as being included in raids or any sort of fighting at all, so I don't want to include them as some lists/armies do. So I would like to emphasize the difference between the Fimm warriors and the Fianna. I imagine the latter being the the larger & more dominant group, while the latter are the lower class warriors, or the young & experienced out to prove themselves.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mrhnd01_zpswqpiq5uy.jpg)

Lastly, the first batch of moor hounds. Old Citadel plastic & metal dire wolves. They were painted when I got them, so I just gave them some minor touch-ups and re-based them. A bit of cheating, but I did put some work into it. These aren't included in old GW Fimir lists, but similar options pop up in most fan lists/material, and I like the relation to myth & literature.

They will also see use with the Undeadish, where they will fit into a division based on the Wild Hunt of Herne, or Kerenos of Moorcock's "Fhoi Myore" from the Corum books. I had considered painting them as described by Moorcock, but I think the black hounds are a better choice.


So that's my Month of Marsh! Well, that plus the 'shrooms posted yesterday. I may get a chance to base them up, but that's unlikely, and I'm going to be busy and probably not get anything else done the next few days.

Looking forward to April, I'm still thinking about some giants. But I'd also like to continue working on the cyclopian bog raiders. And undead. And Marienburg mercenaries. So... really I'm not sure. Other than the giants -- definitely one or two of those.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on March 31, 2016, 06:08:24 AM
Wow this thread just keeps on giving!

Brilliant stuff!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on March 31, 2016, 09:19:41 AM
Nice output. Touching up can sometimes be the same effort as you try to match colour/style.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on March 31, 2016, 09:41:14 AM
Very cool. This thread moves from strength to strength!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on March 31, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
You did an OUTSTANDING job on the Mushrooms...GREAT color choices. The other Beasties are of equally high quality. VERY WELL DONE!

On the centipede's eyes: the human like eyes add a surrealist touch to the Beasty. These are fantasy miniatures & should be fantastic in appearance....all centipedes of greater than 6' in length should have human eyes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Arundel on March 31, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
I always love looking at your work, Zero. My recent favourites are the mushrooms--they look absolutely great!
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Post by: Vermis on March 31, 2016, 03:08:08 PM
You say you haven't much done, but from my POV you're a machine. :) Nice job on all the newer minis.
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Post by: Hobgoblin on March 31, 2016, 10:30:31 PM
....all centipedes of greater than 6' in length should have human eyes.

Brilliant!  lol
(As are the Fomorians and the rest)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 03, 2016, 01:34:16 AM
Thanks everybody!

You say you haven't much done, but from my POV you're a machine. :) Nice job on all the newer minis.

I think it's a matter of perspective -- and mine may be a bit skewed. For a long time I've been used to being able to spend significant time on a hobby project if my mind is fired up about it. I could come home from work, grab a quick bite to eat and then spend the entire evening painting. But the past few years things have changed so much that I'm scraping by with whatever time I can muster, exchanging sleep for painting, etc. I've also sacrificed a lot of the time/quality I would have previously put into projects, in favor of speedy shortcuts. I suppose I shouldn't complain as much as I do -- it could be much worse!

Speaking of time, I unexpectedly had some this weekend...



I enjoyed the March painting challenge, and although I didn't actually paint anything, the idea of Deadcember was one I could get behind if I had the time.

So April... I'm just making this one up, since I can't really work "giants" into any amusing wordplay involving a month, nor does anything come to mind for a good April theme, other than the Fellowship of the Ring ("Fly you fools!") -- which I don't have any plans for. So giants it is. This may be a one man Big April Challenge.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants01_zpsfvcisdhl.jpg)

I just spent a bit of time cleaning my favored victims subjects. From left to right, Warploque, Marauder, and Ultraforge.

I didn't expect to have any spare time this weekend, so getting to work on these was a pleasant surprise. It looks like I may have another spare hour or two, so I may either clean up the Reaper Colossal Skeleton as well and/or start assembling these.


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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 03, 2016, 02:57:21 AM
Quick assembly. Still need to do some gap filling in a few spots.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants02_zpshci3f2p3.jpg)
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 05, 2016, 04:02:38 AM
Broccoli Walkoli... Menace or ally? Sentient chaos vegetation, or nature fighting back? Who can tell...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/broccoliwalkoli_zpsg01yymti.jpg)
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Post by: von Lucky on April 05, 2016, 11:50:18 AM
lol

I've just realised DeafNala is a comic book super villian who has infected another victim with MADNESS!
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Post by: DeafNala on April 05, 2016, 01:45:58 PM
The Giants look promising AND the Broccoli is BRILLIANT...what a GREAT IDEA! At LordB's suggestion, I'm thinking of doing some Undead Peanuts. The Broccoli is something that I may have to explore as well....a Living Impaired Asparagus Spear would be cool as well. WONDERFUL WORK!
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 07, 2016, 06:56:59 AM
 lol

Haha. Thanks. The thought of a vegetable based army had crossed my mind, though it's unlikely to happen.

(http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_133122.jpg)



I went with the easy giant first. The Big Bone. Maybe it's for the sense of accomplishment -- first giant done by the end of the first week. Mostly done. I still might make a few touch-ups. The Marauder Giant is next!


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants04_zpsmyq5rreu.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants05_zpsollq5k81.jpg)
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Post by: beefcake on April 07, 2016, 07:55:11 AM
Cool. Nice work. I didn't know how big that giant really was.
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Post by: von Lucky on April 07, 2016, 10:09:35 AM
Yeah, and makes you realise how big the other ones are!
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Post by: DeafNala on April 07, 2016, 01:19:07 PM
The Gigantic Deadite is a BEAUTY...FANTASTIC brushwork & basing. The bone shades are BRILLIANT & bring the piece to another level. VERY WELL DONE!
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 12, 2016, 04:40:53 AM
Thanks! And yes, the Ultraforge and Warploque giants are even bigger!  :o

Speaking of skeletons, on my quest to find some more figure that match up with the two Skeletal Ogres from Ral Partha Europe, I got some 40mm skeletons from Spartan Games "Heroes of Myth and Legend" range. (Discontinued?) They're well sculpted, and about the right height. But the proportions are much leaner -- in fact, they're at least as delicate as human sized 28mm figures. The poses are a little stiff, but being unadorned skeletons, they should be easy to re-position a bit.

I think these might make great skeletal giants for 10mm & 15mm armies.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/40mmskelecomp_zpsjr5gtdj3.jpg)

When I get back to painting skeletons, what I think I will do is paint up the two ogres on their bases, and use them in units with other "non human" skeletons, like the others I painted. As for the 40mm skinnies, I will mix those in on multi-bases with other non-humans.



But for now... Back to painting more giants!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants06_zpsep4x6p8l.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: beefcake on April 12, 2016, 06:32:46 AM
Nice flesh work. I recently sold that giant.
The skeletal ogre is currently on my paint bench too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on April 12, 2016, 12:56:14 PM
The Giant Fellow's flesh tones are LOVELY...especially the nose. GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 18, 2016, 07:29:52 AM
It was a busy weekend, but the weather was beautiful and our family spent a bit of time outside doing some "Spring cleaning." I also did a bit of overdue sanding and spraying outdoors before bringing in one of my mid-life-crisis projects back indoors for the evening to dry completely.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/sk8bd01_zpsiqasuvau.jpg)


Our fifth wedding anniversary was this past Autumn. I had been talking -- like any 40-something in his right mind -- about a skateboard, and the traditional fifth anniversary gift is wood, so.... my wife got me a gift card for the local skate shop. I picked up the deck & hardware I wanted, but had planned on stripping & repainting the deck. I had been planning on painting something interesting on it, but figured that would drag the process out for another year, so instead I dug out some cans of metallic black I've had sitting around for years and started laying down some primer & finish coats and will keep it simple. It'll just get scraped up anyway. Mind you, I haven't been on a skateboard in over twenty years. But I did ride & kick around a bit before the weather turned cold for Winter, and I survived without injury. So the hardware goes back on tomorrow and we'll see if I can avoid breaking anything. Bones, I mean. I have far more confidence in my ability to put a skateboard back together.


I am up late tonight, trying to catch up a bit of the Marauder giant, and he's finally coming together. I did take a few shortcuts. I would guess about 90% of the painting is done. Refining a number of areas, details, etc. and then on to the base.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants08_zps9pfxi1wa.jpg)


I had started writing up some background for him, but didn't like the way it sounded. So I will get back to that at some point.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: von Lucky on April 18, 2016, 08:51:51 AM
Looking good!
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Post by: **GS** on April 18, 2016, 09:01:20 AM
Really good. One thing is a little diturbing to me though: The wet spots on the base: Did the fellow wet his not existing pants?  lol

To be honest: I relly like the vibrant colors...

Cheers
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Post by: Schrumpfkopf on April 18, 2016, 09:24:46 AM
Excellent painting as always. Time for a couple of group shots soon eh?
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Post by: Metternich on April 18, 2016, 11:14:06 PM
I love how the giant apes the landsnecht fashions.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 19, 2016, 06:14:07 AM
Really good. One thing is a little diturbing to me though: The wet spots on the base: Did the fellow wet his not existing pants?  lol

To be honest: I relly like the vibrant colors...

Thanks!

Maybe he thought he was the biggest thing around, but then saw the two who are coming up next and got a little nervous.


Excellent painting as always. Time for a couple of group shots soon eh?

Going to aim for completing at least one, hopefully two, giants by the end of the month and then do some group photos of the April giants, as well as photos with the rest of the giants I've got. (A little preview of that on the left side of the table in the previous skateboard photo. ;) )


I love how the giant apes the landsnecht fashions.

Marienburg gold can even go to the head of a mercenary giant. Only the finest (in his mind) tailors of large garments and/or ships' sails will do.  :D

I've got a second one that I've debated selling. Maybe I should convert it to an even fancier version... puffy leggings, replace that club with a giant sized pike or halberd, maybe even a hat with some fabulously huge feathers.  ;D




I finished up the painting on the Marauder giant, but can't decide what to do for the base. While I give that a bit of thought, I've started on the next giant -- the Ultraforge giant.

He's the largest giant I've got. Pretty well sculpted, though not as nicely cast as the Marauder or Warploque giants. He required the most clean-up of the four I'm attempting to paint this month, and there are still some visible mold lines/slips. The resin is lightweight, which is a nice change from awkwardly handling the lead Marauder giant while painting.

The big guy is mostly flesh surfaces, so I'm trying to keep that interesting. I put a bit of work into that tonight, but still have more refinement & clean-up. His face still looks a bit like raw meat. (Not that that's entirely a bad thing...) The colors aren't quite coming through in the pics, but I hope they give a good idea where it's going.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants09_zpstwuujl7c.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants09b_zpsogupzdjz.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Treebeard on April 19, 2016, 09:28:55 AM
Woooh that skin !
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Post by: **GS** on April 19, 2016, 09:54:57 AM
yep, really nice!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Metternich on April 19, 2016, 10:56:36 PM
Would love to see a puff n'slash giant landsknecht !!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on April 20, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
The skin tone are WONDERFUL; & I love the eyes. GREAT START!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 23, 2016, 03:36:22 AM

Thanks!


As much as I want to keep working on the giants, I'm having some motivational trouble with them. It's been a busy and stressful week, and I don't think I'm up for any painting that requires much focus -- mini or giant sized. So, time for another side-quest!

We had some nice weather this week, so I went outside to cut up a piece of hardboard I've had waiting around for years.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/waterrain01_zpsmlw4k8vf.jpg)

I have separate bases with reeds & other greenery -- and will need to make some more -- that will go on top of these. Similar concept to having woods with separate, movable trees to accommodate troops moving through the terrain.

I would also like to make some more river sections. I've been dying to make decent river terrain for... decades. These turned out pretty good. But I ran out of hardboard. The new problem I am facing is that none of the hardware stores carries it in the same thickness anymore! I could only find 1/8" and this appears to be 1/4" (maybe nominal 3/16"?)


Maybe I can get some better photos when it's daylight.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on April 23, 2016, 04:26:38 AM
Love the eyes on the big fella...looks raaather intimidating!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Hammers on April 23, 2016, 08:12:33 AM

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants09_zpstwuujl7c.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants09b_zpsogupzdjz.jpg)

A very nice model. Probably the best giant model I have seen. Beautifully painted to. He looks like that fella in 'The Hhills have eyes'.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on April 23, 2016, 12:55:07 PM
The Big Guy is painting up WONDERFULLY...GREAT flesh tones & eyes. Keep up the GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Argonor on April 23, 2016, 03:13:19 PM
I would also like to make some more river sections. I've been dying to make decent river terrain for... decades.

Now you've gone and given me a bad conscience, as I all too clearly remember that I have some Amera river sections somewhere in a box...  :?

I like your lakes/bogs, and the partially modular river will give you some nice options for tactical challenges on the battlefield.

The Ultraforge giant is, of course, as others have pointed out, a fantastic model, and you are doing it full credit with your brushes!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 23, 2016, 07:13:29 PM
The face on that giant is perhaps the best thing yet on this (tremendous!) thread.

It reminds me of some John Blanche stuff - and there's no higher praise than that!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: grant on April 23, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
Great giant. Old filthy hobo look to him likes he's been sleeping rough for decades. Fantastic!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: djbii on April 24, 2016, 11:32:34 AM
The Hill Giants have Eyes...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iQyrDwp7qzs/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 24, 2016, 05:02:50 PM

Now you've gone and given me a bad conscience, as I all too clearly remember that I have some Amera river sections somewhere in a box...  :?

I like your lakes/bogs, and the partially modular river will give you some nice options for tactical challenges on the battlefield.

Haha, don't feel too bad. Although I've made plenty of other terrain over the years, I've been using paper or felt rivers since I started. These were long overdue.  lol

The sections above are 4" wide. I plan on making a few shorter straight sections, a few more bends of various angles, and a junction or two. I think  I would also like to create some narrower stream sections -- maybe 2" or 2.5" wide, also with various components -- including some junctions for the small streams to flow into the larger river.



The Hill Giants have Eyes...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iQyrDwp7qzs/maxresdefault.jpg)

Exactly! I knew that giant looked familiar, thanks!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 25, 2016, 05:26:50 AM
It reminds me of some John Blanche stuff - and there's no higher praise than that!

There isn't! That made my day -- thank you!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 26, 2016, 07:33:27 PM
Still having trouble getting the focus & energy to sit down & do any real painting at night, so I've been continuing with other stuff. I went ahead and put together some movement trays, as I previously posted about.

I also touched up & rebased some more Moor Hounds (Citadel dire wolves.) As with the last batch, I just repainted the red eyes, highlighted the teeth & tongue, and touched up any chipped paint. Then I put them onto new bases to fit the rest of my figures.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mrhnd02_zpsmbuif9yz.jpg)


I also received Stuff! In the Mail! "Morrighu," a resin cast of a sculpt from Ross Whitehorn of the Fimir Facebook group. I cleaned her up, took a comparison pic and primed her and... it's a bit of the dreaded "fuzzy primer." Figures it would be on a unique figure like this. I'm going to clean her up & see if I can recover from that. I don't want to strip the figure because I'm not really sure what type of resin this is, nor how various strippers might affect the material. The resin is interesting -- it's slightly soft & flexible, but nothing near Reaper's bones or other "soft plastic" figures. It cleaned up super easy with just a blade, and drilling for pinning the pieces together was also easy. Both the sculpting and the casting on this figure are great. Nice and crisp, very little cleanup. My only (minor) criticism is that I'm not fond of the way the eye appears to be sculpted.

At any rate, here is a pic next to one of my converted Reaper figures, and an oldschool Citadel Fimir Dirach, for scale. Pretty good!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mcomp01_zpse5otrbkx.jpg)
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Post by: beefcake on April 26, 2016, 08:26:05 PM
Fits nicely.
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Post by: thebinmann on April 26, 2016, 08:37:26 PM
Your work is stunning!
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Post by: Justin Buck on April 26, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
Love those giants! I've been eyeballing that Ultrafogre one for a while now.  I just need to figure out a reason to get one...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on April 27, 2016, 01:20:44 PM
The Reaper Swamp Guy fits right in...nice find!
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Post by: Argonor on April 27, 2016, 02:49:23 PM
Love those giants! I've been eyeballing that Ultrafogre one for a while now.  I just need to figure out a reason to get one...

Because big mini.  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2016, 06:42:28 AM
Love those giants! I've been eyeballing that Ultrafogre one for a while now.  I just need to figure out a reason to get one...

Because big mini.  ;)

I'm going to have to agree with Argonor. And a fine big mini it is!  :D



Illness, back problems, and other distractions have kept me from even my reduced goal for the month. But I'm OK with that. I got motivated enough to paint up some giant-- the skeleton is entirely done, the Marauder giant is completely painted and just needs the base finished, the Ultraforge giant is over halfway done, and the Warploque giant... well, maybe I will get those last two finished in May.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants10_zps47l8hd0u.jpg)


And, as promised, here's a pic with my other, previously painted giants.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants10b_zpsfvmyvr1z.jpg)



I also had requests for better shots of the water terrain. (Unfortunately, this goes the other direction and is a bit too much sunlight.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/terraplog/waterrain02_zpsrwetjjyv.jpg)


Speaking of... I took a little bit of time earlier in the week before the weather got rainy to cut some more terrain. I could't find any hardboard to match what I was using. So I got some 1/4" MDF (a little thicker) for more rivers and some 1/8" hardboard to see how that works out for other terrain -- starting with some dirt/mud roads.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/terraplog/rawparts_zps5femlrd4.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: DeafNala on April 30, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
COOL STUFF! The Giant's Group Portrait is FANTASTIC! VERY WELL DONE!
I hope you feel better soon...we all need the inspiring photos.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Metternich on May 02, 2016, 11:12:16 PM
Those are some big boys ! ( and a coupla' big girls, and at least one ... it?).  Great group portrait.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 03, 2016, 04:00:00 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/warmy3rd1_zpsb0s5r2ng.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: thebinmann on May 03, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Stunning!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 06, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
I'm climbing out of the funk of the last few weeks. A lot of things contributed to me not really painting miniatures much. But now we're all getting over our various recent illnesses in the household, my back is (mostly) feeling better, new glasses arrived, and I got a couple nights of good sleep.

In the mean time, I've been wrapping up "wave two" of my terrain binge. Here's a pic of most of what I've done lately.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/terraplog/waterrain03_zpsm4hksznr.jpg)


4" river sections, 2" river sections, bogs, shrubs, and muddy dirt road. Kind of oldschool & cartoony looking, but that's the way we roll in the lonely attic.

But the real big deal is... I sat at the desk and actually applied paint to a couple of half-finished figures that I had wanted to wrap up a couple weeks ago. (The Ultraforge giant and a vampire I need to send off in the mail.)  I also applied quite a bit of GW Nuln Oil wash to my desk. About half of a new bottle, when I accidentally tipped it over. I'm looking forward to finishing both ASAP. Both figures, that is. Not the desk.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 12, 2016, 09:50:53 PM
I've more or less finished the Ultraforge giant. I just have to decide how to do his base (and the base on the Marauder giant.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants11_zpsumhdrvxu.jpg)

There's some more late night rambling about the giant and what I'm planning next on my blog.

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/05/ultraforge-giant-almost-done-whats-next.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Metternich on May 13, 2016, 11:12:03 PM
Personally, am looking forward to more of the Marienburgers themselves.
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 15, 2016, 04:49:18 AM
Nevermind.... (deleted)
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 15, 2016, 06:19:16 PM
OK, last time I post pics of these same giants - they're finally, completely done!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giants12_zpsqynzfbg4.jpg)

And one last shot of giant size hierarchy. :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giantssml_zps7g1darbc.jpg)

On to new stuff!
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Post by: Dr. The Viking on May 16, 2016, 06:58:13 AM
The giants look awesome!

I also think your rivers and roads are perfect.

I wonder how you managed to not get the roads to warp. I used the same material and for me they warped quite significantly.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: Elbows on May 16, 2016, 01:56:15 PM
Very cool.  You have more giants than any other gamer I've seen.  Huzzah!  lol
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Post by: DeafNala on May 17, 2016, 12:44:44 PM
The REALLY BIG Guy turned out as WONDERFULLY as his smaller associates; BEAUTIFULLY painted & based...the mushrooms are a nice touch. VERY WELL DONE once more!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (And More!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 17, 2016, 05:45:32 PM

Thanks, all!

Very cool.  You have more giants than any other gamer I've seen.  Huzzah!  lol

Then you must not have seen...

http://www.sodemons.com/rhgiants2/

Maybe some day I can acquire enough to challenge him to a miniature giant rumble. I'm on your trail, Orclord!  ;)


I wonder how you managed to not get the roads to warp. I used the same material and for me they warped quite significantly.

Mine did warp slightly. But less than I had feared it would. In fact, I had some that were 24" long and cut them down to 12" and set some books on top of them for a couple days to try to mitigate some of the warping. It was much more noticable on the 24" sections.

Maybe the warping was minimal because only part of the board was covered with PVA & sand? The "mud" is just paint & gloss varnish, directly on the surface (smooth side) of the board.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 18, 2016, 05:56:59 PM
I'm heading back to Marienburg for a bit!

First on the menu are halberdiers. Long overdue -- they've been the one missing troop type from my army! I've got some of the oldschool GW multi-piece plastics cleaned, assembled and primed, as well as some metal WotR era figures I will be using as rural militia.

I thought I would try out some other figures, too. I have some assorted pikemen with pikes held low/level. I don't like using them with pikes because of the problem of using them in games. So I was thinking they might make good halberdiers. Here are two quick test figures. The poses look OK for halberds?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/halb01_zpsvvd0ucvq.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: Argonor on May 18, 2016, 07:46:01 PM
I don't really think, anyone would hold any two-handed weapon like that with the right hand (not even pikes - you would hurt your hand on the impact with an armoured foe), but as the minis are sculpted that way, it could just as well be halberds.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: Metternich on May 19, 2016, 12:58:31 AM
Very nice puff-and-slash for your halberdiers.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 19, 2016, 05:28:58 AM
I don't really think, anyone would hold any two-handed weapon like that with the right hand (not even pikes - you would hurt your hand on the impact with an armoured foe), but as the minis are sculpted that way, it could just as well be halberds.

I agree, I was hoping maybe they won't be too noticeable in the ranks of other figures. I had never really given it much thought before you mentioned it, but there is a certain hazard of back-rankers being smashed in the face by the butts of the weapons of the ranks in front of them!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: white knight on May 19, 2016, 10:40:29 AM
Yeah, they look fine. I will probably do the same with mine and give them halberds or spears. The pikes look great, but you can't really game with them if you can't get near the enemy units and the ones pointing upwards are just hazards to get knocked over, caught in sleeves or stab you in the hand.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: Argonor on May 19, 2016, 01:54:31 PM
Yeah, they look fine. I will probably do the same with mine and give them halberds or spears. The pikes look great, but you can't really game with them if you can't get near the enemy units and the ones pointing upwards are just hazards to get knocked over, caught in sleeves or stab you in the hand.

Not to mention if you use the metal wire spear/pikes supplied by some manufactures (ouch!)  lol

I have seen somebody addressing the leveled pike problem by extending the base of the pikemen out to the points of the pikes, btw.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: white knight on May 19, 2016, 03:34:41 PM
I saw that too, but then this might give a problem with flanked attacks of the unit in some systems perhaps.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: Argonor on May 19, 2016, 05:02:07 PM
I saw that too, but then this might give a problem with flanked attacks of the unit in some systems perhaps.

Could be - at least with rules-lawyers around - but the sensible thing to rule would be to only be able to contact the part of the base actually containing troops (which is how it would work with 'normal' basing).

But, yes, pikes are a nuissance to cope with on the table.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: MagpieJono on May 19, 2016, 05:26:13 PM
I think the position of those miniatures is perfectly acceptable.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (back to Marienburg)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 22, 2016, 05:34:09 AM
Yeah, they look fine. I will probably do the same with mine and give them halberds or spears. The pikes look great, but you can't really game with them if you can't get near the enemy units and the ones pointing upwards are just hazards to get knocked over, caught in sleeves or stab you in the hand.

I learned long ago never to mix wargaming with pike or spear based armies and wearing wool sweaters. That particular combination is less about getting stabbed, and more about moving your arm and discovering 20 or so figures tangled in the sleeve.

Could be - at least with rules-lawyers around - but the sensible thing to rule would be to only be able to contact the part of the base actually containing troops (which is how it would work with 'normal' basing).

But, yes, pikes are a nuissance to cope with on the table.

I'm happy just sticking with upright pikes, or at least held at greater than 45 degree angle to the ground.




So I lied a little.... just one more Fomorian/Fimir before really working on a lot of Marienburgers. (In truth, I have just cleaned, prepped & primed a pile of halberdiers -- just no real paint work on them yet.)

This is "Morrighu - Fomorian Witch" from Krakon games. Second pic next to a couple of my conversions for scale comparison.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/whmear01_zps01seai7g.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/whmear02_zpsnffob7gv.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OK, one more Fimir, THEN back to Marienburg)
Post by: verd on May 23, 2016, 03:56:48 PM
I really like these!  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OK, one more Fimir, THEN back to Marienburg)
Post by: DeafNala on May 24, 2016, 12:32:36 PM
The new One Eyed Gal looks FANTASTIC...BEAUTIFULLY painted & based with some GORGEOUS mushroom to finish off the image perfectly. VERY WELL DONE as usual.

When I painted formations of minis for gaming, I was focused. Now, painting for enjoyment/the love of the craft, I'm much less likely to stick to just one thing. Wandering around is less productive, but more fun.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OK, one more Fimir, THEN back to Marienburg)
Post by: Reed on May 24, 2016, 04:31:34 PM
I won't complain if you delay the Marienburgers in exchange of more Fimirs  ::)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 20, 2016, 06:47:37 AM
New blog post explaining why I've been quiet lately, and what's going on:
http://www.zerotwentythree.com/…/06/all-quiet-on-the_80.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on June 20, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
Sorry to hear of your troubles- I hope it all works out.

Nice score/painting though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: DeafNala on June 20, 2016, 12:36:18 PM
Good luck with the hunt! I hope it works out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: MagpieJono on June 20, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
Bad times. Hope it all works out for you.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: Elbows on June 20, 2016, 01:58:22 PM
That sucks, but if/when you find a place...the peace will be rewarding.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 21, 2016, 04:39:40 AM

Thanks everyone. Without getting into all of the particulars, our current situation suddenly (and unexpectedly) became really bad, to the point where it's like a race against the clock to see if we can get out before catastrophe strikes. But I think we found a place, and I'm working out the details of the agreement over the next few days. Unfortunately, I will be losing my attic and very likely any room for my gaming table at all -- so I've got to rethink a lot of things.

I should be able to manage a painting desk, though. But I will probably not be doing much painting for the next few months. The trouble with that is that painting is my meditation, my "happy place," my spirit animal is a paint brush (so... a sable, I guess?) It's what helps me decompress from all the stress, and everything has recently become so, so stressful.

Maybe as I pack up my painting stuff, I should keep a small box with a limited number of paints, some brushes, and some appropriate figures, so I can keep a small, portable set-up that I can use whenever I can squeek out a few minutes somewhere. Maybe do some more of the Undeadish and their (very) limited color pallet? Or maybe take some time to experiment with sculpting for a bit? That takes up far less space

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on June 21, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
Maybe do some more of the Undeadish and their (very) limited color pallet? Or maybe take some time to experiment with sculpting for a bit? That takes up far less space

Either options make sense - see what works. All the best.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: MagpieJono on June 21, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
Having limited hobby space isn't all that bad. I generally paint/model/game on the dining room table. It's sometimes a pain to have to keeping clearing things away but I think it makes you a tidier hobbier? as a result and stops you having 15 projects on the go at once.

I keep all my hobby things neat and tidy in a set of drawers so it can all go away easily in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on June 24, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
I'm sorry to read about your difficulties; I hope you find something suitable soon!

As for small projects... Have you considered something like an old dungeon crawler (Advanced Heroquest springs to mind)? They are quite modest in terms of requirements, they can be played solo or Co-op without a DM. Plus, you probably already have lots of suitable stuff for it, and it can all go in one box.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 26, 2016, 04:14:11 AM
Having limited hobby space isn't all that bad. I generally paint/model/game on the dining room table. It's sometimes a pain to have to keeping clearing things away but I think it makes you a tidier hobbier? as a result and stops you having 15 projects on the go at once.

I keep all my hobby things neat and tidy in a set of drawers so it can all go away easily in a few minutes.

Good points, and I do have some drawers that I use to try to keep things organized. But I'm definitely guilty of the 15 projects at once -- even within my limited scope.  ;)

I'm sorry to read about your difficulties; I hope you find something suitable soon!

As for small projects... Have you considered something like an old dungeon crawler (Advanced Heroquest springs to mind)? They are quite modest in terms of requirements, they can be played solo or Co-op without a DM. Plus, you probably already have lots of suitable stuff for it, and it can all go in one box.

Thanks. We did just find a place, and I pick up the keys Monday!

I really have been thinking about a dungeon crawl, but don't honestly know where to start! But would definitely be interested in something that is already set up for solo play, easy to bring in new players (if I can,) and a bit generic, so that it's not tied too strongly to a unique/odd setting (and set of critters.)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on June 26, 2016, 10:33:40 PM
Happy to hear the good news re. the new place.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 07, 2016, 05:09:06 AM
Really fighting the blues as I pack up the the attic. No room at the new house, so everything is going into indefinite damp-basement storage, being trashed, or possibly sold.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20160706_225454_zpsaclpwabm.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on July 07, 2016, 11:41:32 AM
Really fighting the blues as I pack up the the attic.

Chin up!

I know it's hard, but you will hopefully have new opportunities in the future.  8)

No room at the new house, so everything is going into indefinite damp-basement storage, being trashed, or possibly sold.

I would recommend putting a few wooden palettes on the floor, and packing everything (in boxes or sealed plastic bags) into big plastic tubs with lids that fit over the sides. Then put a tarpaulin over the stack of boxes.

I kept stuff in a very wet garage for about nine years, and this was the *only* way to keep them dry.  :?


As for a dungeon crawler... PM me your address details and I may be able to help you out with something to get started (don't worry, it's CD-sized). ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: DeafNala on July 07, 2016, 01:23:15 PM
That is sad. When I moved down to Texas from Long Island I could only take what would fit into Cap'n John's Ford Escape. Everything else is gone...including the Old House. In retrospect I think I should have taken the books & given away most of the minis; re, I'd have things to read & fewer pieces that will never see a brush. All that is to say you have my condolences.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on July 07, 2016, 03:09:11 PM
Wishing you all the best.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
The Eagle has landed...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/IMG_20160720_010457_zpsvjs3mbbz.jpg)

Most of the pieces parts have made it to the new house. Now to put it all together.

I'm still hoping to work out a painting desk. Optimistically thougb, it's probably a few weeks before I have spacetime for any potential painting/hobby stuff.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on July 20, 2016, 10:48:22 AM
That's motivation enough. When I moved into my current place the man cave was used as the initial storage room. Too late did I realise SWMBO knew what would motivate me to sort through the boxes. Good luck!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 26, 2016, 02:47:50 AM
Morale has been low. Struggling to find space for painting, or even storing my painting & gaming stuff in an accessible manner at the new house.  :?

On a more positive note....


In somewhat better news, just before I moved I scored an amazing deal on a figure I've wanted for a while, but has always been out of my price range. Even better is that it is really well painted. In fact, the paint job alone is worth twice what I paid. In fact, I'm pretty sure the figure retailed for around twice what I paid, so this was a super bargain.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20160725_170357_zpsqiegn145.jpg)

Photo doesn't do it justice. I don't have a painting & photo desk set up yet, so this was the best I could do. At least I knew where to find my reliable old reference figure, for scale!

After I uploaded the pic to photobucket, I noticed a similarity to another recent pic...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/pixlr_zpswbskyqzn.jpg)

 lol  Uncanny!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: beefcake on July 26, 2016, 04:08:58 AM
 lol that's hilarious.
Is that the Black Scorpion Giant? Very nice.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: Barbarus on July 26, 2016, 07:42:49 AM

That giant is a beauty.
I cannot believe someone would sell it... especially after giving it that kind of paintjob.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: LordOdo on July 26, 2016, 09:10:07 AM
You might consider giving the giant some kind of glasses ... :D :D:D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on July 26, 2016, 09:14:14 AM
lol Nice score - the only way is up.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: Duncan McDane on July 26, 2016, 10:56:08 AM
Probably sculpted & painted by a longtime secret admirer of yours  :D.
Great fig ( the right one too  ;) ), Forgeworld?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 26, 2016, 01:46:59 PM
Yes. He's from Black Scorpion's fantasy pirate range. Doesn't seem to be in production anymore (or not listed on the web site, at any rate.)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: DeafNala on July 26, 2016, 01:58:06 PM
That is an OUTSTANDING Giant BEAUTIFULLY painted & based. The resemblance is uncanny. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 26, 2016, 05:16:56 PM
Not my work. He arrived that way. I would love to let whoever did paint it know how great I think it is!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2016, 11:58:17 PM
http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/08/biguns.html

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9-UTA0BwRfk/V6IwM5TMCAI/AAAAAAAAD1Q/USWAbBia3-kD-oIdlhEDqjcmiPY8o4KqACLcB/s1600/bigguns.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: DeafNala on August 04, 2016, 12:32:26 PM
The Trio looks WONDERFUL or potentially so. The Fellow doing The Monster Mash is going to be FANTASTIC!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2016, 05:55:45 AM
The Trio looks WONDERFUL or potentially so. The Fellow doing The Monster Mash is going to be FANTASTIC!

Although I haven't painted him yet, he's possibly my favorite giant. Glad I had the chance to get one, and hope to paint him up soon!



Still unpacking, posted some more things I unearthed: http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/08/the-unpacking-continues-lost-causes.html
(Not really "lost cause," maybe I should have called it "very long term plans yet to be completed" or something like that.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 07, 2016, 03:37:15 PM
More thoughts on giants. I'm not sure if I can make it yet, but I'd like to attend the Oldhammer in the New World event coming up soon and get a little bit of 3rd ed. on for the first time since I was young. I was thinking about what I could do... finish enough Fimir for a small list? Empire? With all of the time lost in our move, I don't think I can get the former ready in time, and for some reason I'm not feeling the call of 3rd ed. Empire at the moment.

I half-jokingly considered (and mentioned on the FB group) using a mercenary list for a full army...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/wfb3rdgiants_zpspj5lipdt.jpg)

Not something that I, or probably most opponents, would want to see on the battlefield as a regular thing. But seems like it could be a fun diversion, and a few people enthusiastically mentioned they'd be willing to face off against an army of giants.

Considering the practical issues of using a bunch of giants, I thought it would be easiest to have a bunch of pre-rolled giants. That would avoid spending a lot of time rolling them all up before each game, and would also give me a chance to make some stat cards for both myself and any opponents.

Since I'm not quite set up for painting yet, and don't have a lot of time, I did take a bit of time to indulge in some prototype giant cards...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/giantcardproto_zpsefqcxatv.jpg)

Stats were "rolled" up using dicelog.com. I'm still figuring out how to make the recorded logs public -- otherwise I would add a link here. What I will do is have one of these made for each giant, number them, and randomly roll up which giants are being used before each game. Unless they're all slated to rumble, of course. :)



Giant Rumble

A while ago I had started jotting down some ideas for a Giant Rumble game. All giants, no popcorn. So I'm thinking about revisiting this idea and may post some rules in future.





Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 09, 2016, 06:04:25 AM
In which I babble about music and post some more giant stat cards...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/08/pure-rock-fury-and-giant-cards-round-one.html

Also, I have almost got a painting desk set up!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: MagpieJono on August 09, 2016, 09:03:13 AM
I think stat cards in general are a good idea and make things simpler during a game but when they also contain a beautiful photo of the unit they're all the better. Might plagarise that idea!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: 6mmfan on August 11, 2016, 09:17:38 AM
There was a Giant list in the original WHFB (1st Edition) supplement called "Forces of Fantasy" I had a bunch of Grenadier giants and the used them as an army using this list. I found a PDF of it and it is pretty cool and there are some fun rules which a lot carried over to the 3rd IIRC.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on August 12, 2016, 01:26:51 PM
Also, I have almost got a painting desk set up!!!   ;D

(http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.121084058.7101/sticker,375x360.u4.png)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 12, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Hahahah! I was typing the reply below (is it still called "typing" on a phone?) and got the warning that someone else had replied while I was typing mine. I'll have to print the unicorn and hang it on my desk until I'm done unpacking.  lol

Ha, thanks 6mmfan! I just took a look and you're right. I started playing in 3rd ed. Some 2nd ed. stats, articles, etc. were still in use, but I had never paid much attention to 1st. ed. Maybe I should look into it a little more for any other interesting bits!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: von Lucky on August 12, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
Seriously hoping it works out. You paint with passion, and you paint darn well. There's thousands of us who have a painting desk but don't paint as much as we should (myself included). I feel my parents should've drilled that into me when I was young along with telling me about the starving kids in Africa to make me appreciate my food. Then I'd paint as much as possible (while still enjoying it).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 13, 2016, 06:39:55 AM
Well, I'll work something out. So far it's just a corner of a desk, and a file cabinet for storage of supplies.

I was actually looking at garden sheds and used delivery/work vans recently.  o_o



I managed to get my hands on some of the plastic Citadel savage orcs, and have made a few attempts at converting them to Fimir, as I've seen elsewhere. The idea is to use these as the lesser Fimm warriors, and the Reaper conversions would be the elite Fianna warrior caste.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw01_zpsngx7buef.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw02_zpsgdq3ffrs.jpg)

Above shows the heads on the bodies and some minor conversions. I just did some putty work on the necks and built some tails.

I've got mixed feelings on these. Too many bones, teeth, and other junk stuck on them. I prefer the simplicity of the old Citadel Fimm. I'd also like to try working in more advanced weapons -- a few bone & flint weapons are OK, but I'd still like to see worked wood & metal. I also prefer not to have them all look like chiseled body builders. It seems like a lot of work for less than impressive final results so far. But I'll wait and see how they look painted up. I still may end up trying to sculpt a few simple Fimm, closer to the originals, and cast some of those up.

(I'd prefer more figures like the oldschool Fimm, below.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/osfm03_zps6iramzb4.jpg)

Unfortunately, both painting and major sculpting will likely have to wait a while as I continue to unpack and deal with other crap. But, hey, I managed to unpack my small sculpting box and sit down and work on minis for a couple hours this week!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: Andym on August 13, 2016, 08:08:11 AM
Fantastic conversions and those giants.......wow! :o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...dry spell...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 14, 2016, 06:40:03 AM
Another brief bit of time to work on minis. Small stuff, I know, but I'm trying to keep morale up by getting excited over even the tiny bits of time I can manage.


Hard to tell, though hopefully the pics are better anyway, but sculpted a bit of neck to connect the heads to the bodies, made some tails and then glued & sculpted them onto the bodies, which are now on bases.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw03_zpsx7qnwxmw.jpg)

I've also included a shot for scale comparison between one of my Reaper conversions on the left, and an original Fimm on the right. Pretty good fit, in terms of scale! I still have some reservations over the differences in style, though. I'm going to wait & see how some paint impacts that, though. Also thinking a lot about hand/weapon swaps for the rest of the savage orc conversions. I'm just not into the stone-age weapons.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw04_zps0kh3pqi7.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: Brummie Thug on August 14, 2016, 08:43:41 AM
What a cool thread. Liking the new additions as well. Variety is the spice of life as they say. What about using the Gnolls from Frostgrave as a base to work from instead. Still Plastic so cheaper but less adorned and have a different style of we apons.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 15, 2016, 05:14:50 AM
Well... I didn't realize they were available yet. In fact, I forgot about them after seeing the initial announcement and thinking, "I'll have to look into that when they're released." But you're right, they could make for an excellent basis for conversions! I'll have to see about getting my hands on some.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: Steam Flunky on August 15, 2016, 07:07:23 AM
Great thread. Luv what you are doing, especially the fimir conversions. :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 15, 2016, 10:26:42 PM
Thanks!


Three of the next four. Two have Skaven right hands & weapons, and the middle one (the horn) I think came from the old goblin command.

Still working on the fourth guy, as I'm taking up Doc J's (from the Warhammer Empire forum) challenge of trying to work up a frog spear.  :mrgreen:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw05_zps9tonnjcw.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 16, 2016, 04:33:48 AM
And here he is...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw06_zpsexpon4mq.jpg)

Fimm with frog spear. The frogs in the Grootscher Marsh and fens surrounding Marienburg can grow pretty big -- so he needs a spear to handle them!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 18, 2016, 06:04:50 AM
Not in the mood for commentary. So just some pics. A bit of paint on some Fomorians converted from Citadel plastic savage orcs and other bits. Second pic is my new work, art, painting, sculpting, miniatures/gaming etc. set-up.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fmw07_zpsv0lisaau.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/shackdesk_zpsbmdcymct.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 21, 2016, 07:05:19 AM
Overdue addition to the giant collection -- a Ral Partha skeletal giant. Measures up well with these three others I've already got! Just needs to get some paint on it sometime soon...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelegiants04_zpsg1zmrcje.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: Pappa Midnight on August 21, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Loving the new Fomorian orc conversions.
Your new work-station is far better than mine ( which consists of an area I use in my kitchen/diner).

Regards
PM
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 22, 2016, 06:47:02 AM
Loving the new Fomorian orc conversions.
Your new work-station is far better than mine ( which consists of an area I use in my kitchen/diner).

Thanks.

I'm crabby about the new work space because I am used to an entire dedicated desk to work on, plus the taboret and set of shelves I previously used to organize my supplies for years. But now I am trying to reduce all of that down to a couple of small file drawers and the last 30 inches or so of my (computer) work desk which needs to be cleared off after each use.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: Grumbledook on August 23, 2016, 07:53:31 AM
Those Fomorians are very nice indeed, they've certainly got all the menace of murderous, kidnapping bog-monsters! Really enjoying your thread by the way, loads of great ideas at work.

And wow, that work lamp! Did it belong to a dentist?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 23, 2016, 08:19:48 PM
Thanks!

And wow, that work lamp! Did it belong to a dentist?

It's an old Luxo architect's lamp, and one of my prized art/painting tools. :D I used to use a pair of incandescent lamps, one on each side, with various types of blubs (daylight, Reveal, etc.) to try to light evenly. But since switching to this, I prefer it by a long shot. The regular ("bright" I think) fluorescent bulbs are a better "all purpose" match for various lighting conditions that the figures (or other art) will actually be viewed in. They cast a nice, soft, even light across my entire working view. It has also produced better lighting for photographing minis than my other attempts so far.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 23, 2016, 09:55:10 PM
Just caught upon the Fimir. Bloomin' lovely. The frog spear is great, the rest too. (I refuse, however, to believe that the skaven hands exist. It would be silly to believe in their hands if I don't believe in the rest of them.)

Haha, thanks. It's easy to believe that those are not skaven hands anyway, as they are so ridiculously large for a skaven. If skaven existed. Which they don't.  :wink:


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/ilikewar_zpsw97v1qbp.jpg)

(Random image found on FB)



Still settling in and getting used to the new house. And starting this week, the new school schedule as well. (My daughter is starting kindergarten.) Unfortunately, it looks like I'm going to need to continue reducing, both time and stuff.

Optimistically my work & family schedule is going to keep me busy from 5:30am until at least 10pm on most days. The remainder is for sleep and any sort of personal/leisure stuff I can try to squeeze in as an alternate to sleep.

I posted a pic of my new painting/sculpting/hobby space a few days ago. It's a file cabinet and the last 30"+/- of surface space on my work desk. I can fit most of my painting & sculpting supplies in the file, though some of it is in the little green toolbox on top of the desk. I've managed to put many of my gaming & reference books on part of the shelf tucked under the desk. Everything else is temporarily in the garage or damp basement until I can figure out what to do with it.

I've been theoretically "planning" on going to the Oldhammer Day US in about a month, but I haven't been able to find the time to get away for an afternoon of gaming (or anything else) let alone disappearing for three full days. The move and other unexpected expenses have really drained my finances, so I'm not sure the cost of a weekend trip is responsible, or even possible to begin with.

So there it is...   :(
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a few giants and Fimir)
Post by: DeafNala on August 24, 2016, 11:57:16 AM
COOL NEW STUFF! Although the time may be limited, you are making the most of it. The new Fimir are BEAUTIES & the Giant has possibilities. GREAT WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 25, 2016, 01:29:19 PM
Thanks.

I ended up with a little bit of unexpected time last night, before the first day of the new/clusterfuck schedule today. Someone was exhausted from yesterday's school orientation and was practically falling asleep at the dinner table. lol So before tackling the pile of parental paperwork, I ended up squeezing a final half hour of painting to finish my super quick & dirty (as it should be!) skeleton giant. My basing materials are still packed away, so it may be a while before he's 100% finished. (I think I need to give the teeth a little more definition (between them) too.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rpskelegiant01_zps3vjt4jfs.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: DeafNala on August 25, 2016, 02:56:31 PM
These golden moments of free time do crop up on a regular basis...I used to find some time between arriving home from second shift (1:30 AM or so) & going to bed (around 3 AM). You made the most of it. The Big Deadite looks WONDERFUL...your bone tones are BEAUTIFUL. OUTSTANDING WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: Vermis on August 26, 2016, 01:53:16 AM
What a grotesque, dead-eyed monstrosity.





The new giant skelly is nice, though.

Seriously tho, I aspire to your 'quick 'n' dirty' painting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: Braxandur on August 26, 2016, 07:53:24 AM
Well done in utilizing those rare moments. It's a mindset that I still have to get used to. Since we have a second small one around, the hobbytime got drastically reduced by family and couch potato time. Of course the latter should become hobby time, but it's so easy not to...

nice work on the giant as well. I really like that classic Guthrie sculpt!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: **GS** on August 26, 2016, 09:11:04 AM
That's a cool rusty armor, the sack of bones is wearing!

Keep on!

Cheers
GS
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: Elbows on August 27, 2016, 02:49:42 PM
Oh, the big boy looks lovely!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: aircav on August 27, 2016, 06:46:54 PM
A bit late to this, but fantastic work all round  8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 30, 2016, 02:34:48 AM
So.... new stuff! I'm going to post the photos below as a teaser. But I'm to lazy to even cut & paste, so if you want to know what's going on, check out my blog entry (http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/08/somewhere-on-horizon.html).

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20160829_173135_zpslu1e4qxo.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/1500pt-mbglist-pg1-wip02_zpsfmhokkht.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/1500pt-mbglist-pg2-wip02_zpsivdsgqmk.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: **GS** on August 30, 2016, 05:57:17 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20160829_173135_zpslu1e4qxo.jpg)
What brand is the middle left guy?

Cheers
GS
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: white knight on August 30, 2016, 09:51:32 AM
The two in the middle are done by different members from the Oldhammer facebook group. They have offered copies for sale on there.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: Mark Backhouse on August 30, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
I've loved lurking on this thread for ages. Great paintobs and conversions and loving the fimir! Great job!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: Vermis on August 30, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
I hear ya. I had to make an appointment with a physiotherapist because what I guess was rubbish posture wrenched something in my back. I could use a taller table myself.

If I've read this right, the 3rd ed Empire list was boring so you made up your own Marienburg version? Using counts-as, I assume. Nice work!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 30, 2016, 08:37:50 PM
Nope, still the same 3rd ed list, with a lot of mercenaries frm the back of the book - fitting for Marienburg, I think.

I'm also using the 3rd ed. Armies book as a template for printing up my roster.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skeletal Giant)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 01, 2016, 04:38:00 AM
First six giant stat cards printed & laminated. Two of each, one for me, one for opponents.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20160831_230853_zpsqrn70yqy.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/ZeroTwentythree/media/0multiplog/20160831_230853_zpsqrn70yqy.jpg.html)

Need to paint more giants...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (WFB3 reference sheets/cards)
Post by: LordOdo on September 01, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
Wow, this is wonderful!  Awesome looking cards that are!!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 09, 2016, 04:09:20 PM
I can't believe it's taken me this long to paint some halberdiers. Seriously, these are the first. Just a start, and I'll be using some of my previously painted command figures for now.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/halb03_zpsgdlriuwg.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/halb02_zpsdwri1txp.jpg)


I also needed one last hobbit scout, so I dug out an old Grenadier figure I had stripped earlier in the year.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/halfscout_zpsuagzymq1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: MagpieJono on September 09, 2016, 08:09:24 PM
Lovely infantry units there.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: Elbows on September 09, 2016, 10:02:51 PM
Yep, loverly!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: DeafNala on September 10, 2016, 01:03:54 PM
SPLENDID! The Halberdiers are nice sized, WONDERFULLY pained & based units. The standards are especially impressive. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 10, 2016, 02:16:10 PM
Elbows summoned the Reply of the Beast.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/replybeast_zpshxq9tmye.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: Metternich on September 11, 2016, 09:33:12 PM
Love your landsknecht halbardiers.   The banners are brilliant.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: randycarter on September 11, 2016, 09:45:26 PM
The overall effect si awesome, great job! Really like the various colour schemes: painting a unit in this way must be damn' time consuming!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 12, 2016, 05:48:55 AM
Thanks. The way I normally paint them is by color rather than troop type, as that seems most efficient. (Less switching between paints, washing brushes, etc.) So, for example, normally I would paint something like 4 pikemen, 2 halberdiers, 2 sword & buckler men, 2 handgunners, an old dwarf or two, and an artillery crewman and maybe some other figure all in the same color scheme.

But I needed some halberdiers in a hurry, so it was a little different this time around! I suspect that will increasingly be the case. I don't need any more swordsmen, nor many more artillery crew. Maybe a few handgunners and crossbowmen. But mostly I just need pike and halberd armed troops anymore. (And more odd fantasy stuff.)

EDIT:

This is sort of what I mean. This is an old photo of a small batch of troops I painted at once (years ago), bulking up pike and GW spear units, I guess.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/grnyel01.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 13, 2016, 03:13:50 AM

Here's what's hitting the road for Oldhammer USA Day 2016. Plus the baggage train. It's been so long, I have no idea how they will do. I'm counting on at least going out looking flashy, if nothing else.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/15003rdohd16_zpsdqhetcii.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: von Lucky on September 13, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
Agree, looks the army fabulous - and you're going.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on September 13, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Love the halberds - imo the best GW ever made - and the group shot is plain awesome.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on September 13, 2016, 10:56:40 AM
What a triumph!

This army is made of pure win.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: fred on September 13, 2016, 09:33:37 PM
Cracking looking army, lovely bright colours
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: DeafNala on September 15, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
The new Pikemen & the Old Hammer Guys all look WONDERFUL! GOOD LUCK at The Game.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 04, 2016, 05:09:58 AM
Minis were pushed around tables, dice were rolled... Games were played!

My hastily written Oldhammer Day USA report: http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/10/oldhammer-day-usa-2016.html

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20161002_134113_zpswlg2cy75.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20161001_172001_zps0olylh1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburg reinforcements -- halberdiers)
Post by: von Lucky on October 04, 2016, 11:08:56 AM
Nice overview and I'm really happy for you that you had a great weekend.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Oldhammer Day USA report)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 05, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Thanks. It was a much needed break. I really need to play games more often. It rejuvenates the soul!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Oldhammer Day USA report)
Post by: deathjester25 on October 06, 2016, 08:49:33 PM
sadly the gyrocopter only lasted another turn after that picture was taken. I gotta watch out for cannons in the future
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Oldhammer Day USA report)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 07, 2016, 12:55:43 AM
It was a bit of a lucky shot, though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Crate & Barrel)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 07, 2016, 04:26:57 PM

I had been wanting to model & paint some actual goods (crates, chests, barrels, sacks, etc.) to use with my empty-until-now wagons & carts. One of my few purchases over the weekend was two bags of Renedra barrels. I figured I would quickly paint up one pack (10 barrels) and also threw together some quick crates and painted those up.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/barrelscrates_zps1cebuvyi.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Crate & Barrel)
Post by: deathjester25 on October 07, 2016, 05:22:24 PM
They look great. I may need to pick some of them up
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Crate & Barrel)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 13, 2016, 03:24:06 AM
The barrels don't fit seamlessly, but I'm not too bothered by that. I have another pack to paint up, still. Glad I found them! My crates aren't particularly beautiful, either, but they'll get the job done.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20161010_192957_zpsxedyhqtb.jpg)

The goods seem to look & fit well with my wagons & carts.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tumblr_lkhzbvcCIc1qdzbyto1_500_zpsrf3zu0dk.png)

Unfortunately I've got the post-gaming blues. I'm fired up to play more often, but harsh reality has set in and I've realized how unlikely that is.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 17, 2016, 12:37:51 AM
I decided to get into the "Orctober" spirit and try painting the last two of my small collection of Great Orcs.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/grorctober01_zpsz52iyswo.jpg)

I'm sort of torn, though, since the approaching holidays are putting me in an Undead spirit. Mostly, I'm trying to wrap up some commission painting right now, though. And then there are the hobbits...



I've received the bulk of my Westfalia Halflings. I'm dying to get working on them, but I'm trying to hold back and finish a few other things first. But waiting is hard. The eternal struggle of the wargamer -- to finish projects (or even just a portion of one) before moving on to the next. As I've been painting other stuff, I've been reworking some of my campaign ideas in my head, and just set some of it down. I've mentioned it a bit before, as part of my planned solo gaming experiment. In short, it's an alternate history WFB, centered around Marienburg and the Wasteland in IC 2439 (shortly after Marienburg's secession.)

At some point I hope to polish it all up into a cohesive and complete multi-campaign set. Unrealistic plans - maps, illustrations, actually playing the games & doing battle reports, etc. Maybe published as a web site and/or downloadable as PDF. But for now it's still evolving, drastically at times. The arrival of the Westfalia figures have encouraged me to start re-writing one chapter. Here's the start of the fresh draft...


Quote
I.C. 2439. Marienburg. The hobbit convoy was halted outside the walls of Marienburg. Guards and teamsters all were a bit impatient with the delay. It wasn’t  just the idle time -- being forced to wait in the Cursed Marshes outside the Suid Gate had made even the animals jittery.

The job wasn’t one without it’s dangers. Roads through the Wasteland were more dangerous than those of the Empire or Bretonnia. Trade most commonly passed along the waterways. But there were no navigable rivers from the Little Country to the City of Gold, just streams, marshes, moors, and a good quality road through uncertain country.

They were working under contract to an ambitious hobbit looking to trade the region's produce,  especially it’s famed sausage, to the larger markets of Marienburg. The people of the Little Country -- man and hobbit alike -- were rustic folk. Although they engaged in trade with merchants of Bretonnia, Reikland, and even (rarely) the dwarfs of Grey Mountains, they usually relied on the foreigners to come to them. Nob was the first hobbit (as far as anyone knew) to make the effort to market the communities’ wares directly to the outside world. He argued that by travelling to Marienburg, he could command a better price, and in the process employ some of the restless or ambitions youth of the Country in his venture as well.

The promises of mild peril and moderate profit worked. A significant train of wagons and an adequate force of guards had signed on for Scrobbleton’s Jackrabbit Trading Company’s first undertaking. And it had gone well. Better than expected, in fact. Flush with silver, and with the promise of further expeditions, most of the profit (after food and drink) was spent on new equipment -- better wagons, larger draft animals, heavier arms and armour.

This second trip to Marienburg had gone just as well so far -- until they had reached the gates, that is. This time they were barred from entering the city. Only Nob, along with his master of books, Will Smallroot, and a pair of personal guards, were granted entry to meet with the authorities. Now it was past first supper, and uncertainty was leading to disquiet. There was little room to pitch camp outside the city walls, and the landscape was pretty miserable to begin with. Rumors of marsh beasts large enough to swallow a hobbit whole were well known.

Minutes after a Bretonnian caravan had passed by the hobbits and entered the gates, Milo Greycap, one of Nob’s guards, emerged from the tall reeds to the west of the road.

“We need to leave. The master’s been taken, so has Will. I snuck out the gate but they will be coming for the wurst. Maybe us too.”

His comrades stood silent and dumbfounded.

“I don’t know everything. I was waiting down the hall. Through the door I overheard something about contraband, mushrooms, and the corruption of Marienburg’s youth. If we don’t get out of here, I don’t know what will happen. We need to leave now.”

More dumbfounded stares.

“Marienburg dungeons serve three meals of fishy broth with old roots a day, that’s it.”

The caravan became a rapid and precise maneuver as wagons were turned around, ranks were formed, and the entire party began a brisk march South.

As the walls began to disappear in the distance and growing darkness, a distant voice was heard, “Stop! Hold the wagons!” followed by a whiney blast from a horn. The hobbits pace quickened.



Campaign

 
Forced Marsh

Setting

Forces


The Wurst Case Scenario

Setting

Forces


Anabasis - Part One

Setting

Forces
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: LordOdo on October 17, 2016, 05:18:49 PM
Sounds very promising!  :D

Great story!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: Argonor on October 17, 2016, 07:03:04 PM
The eternal struggle of the wargamer -- to finish projects (or even just a portion of one) before moving on to the next.

And here I thought it was just me...  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 23, 2016, 06:33:37 AM
Behold, the Orctober of ZeroTwentythree!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/grorctob05_zpsxavmyaxe.jpg)

Now back to work on other people's figures...

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: Elbows on October 23, 2016, 03:22:38 PM
Brilliant brushwork as usual.  Gorgeous colours.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: Rob_bresnen on October 26, 2016, 08:42:15 AM
Bling Orcs!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: DeafNala on October 26, 2016, 12:12:15 PM
The Green Guys look FANTASTIC, BEAUTIFULLY painted & based. VERY WELL DONE as always!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 28, 2016, 07:58:55 PM
Thanks!


Westfalia kobold samples:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/kbtst02_zpsr7bl2gxr.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: DeafNala on October 28, 2016, 09:56:11 PM
The Kobolds are DELIGHTFUL, BEAUTIFULLY painted & based Little Rogues. If they were available when I was AD&Ding they would have figured more prominently in my stories. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (kobolds)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 29, 2016, 07:21:13 AM
One more quick Westfalia figure, a steppe goblin from the KS. Trying out a phone app (Pixlr) for the photo editing.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/pixlr_20161029020540958_zpsty2efjab.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober and Hobbits)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on October 29, 2016, 10:33:32 AM
Thanks!


Westfalia kobold samples:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/kbtst02_zpsr7bl2gxr.jpg)

Super nice Kobolds and Gobbo - do you happen o have bigger images that I could post? :--)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (kobolds)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 29, 2016, 05:13:28 PM

The photos weren't great so I tried again. How's this?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/kbtst03_zpstdguk3ci.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/kbtst04_zpsq1gl2faz.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (kobolds)
Post by: fred on October 29, 2016, 07:40:43 PM
They're great.

They look like they would work in 10mm too...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (kobolds)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on October 30, 2016, 10:38:42 PM
The photos weren't great so I tried again. How's this?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/kbtst03_zpstdguk3ci.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/kbtst04_zpsq1gl2faz.jpg)



Sweet - thanks!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (kobolds)
Post by: Metternich on November 01, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
Always liked those Great Orc figures as they continue the fantasy Renaissance theme.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (casualty markers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 13, 2016, 02:32:07 AM
I've been using skull shaped beads to mark wounds & casualties, but I have needed some different markers to indicate larger kultiplesnof wounds and/or negative status (broken demoralized, whatevs), depending on the game being played. So...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20161112_124421_zpspe2crgye.jpg)

Skulls will indicate single wounds, gravestones insicate five, and the Black Rabbit of Inlé will indicate either ten wounds or a crippling status of some sort, s appropriate per the rules in any given battle.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 16, 2016, 09:02:42 PM
A few of us on the Oldhammer in the New World FB group did a surprise figure exchange. I painted & sent someone Lord Skrolk.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skrolk2lg_zps2shd1u3y.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: Reed on November 17, 2016, 05:47:51 AM
You made someone out there very happy. What did you get ?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 18, 2016, 08:47:58 PM
Thanks. Mine hasn't arrived yet. I was the first one done and we still haven't hit the deadline yet.  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2016, 03:40:52 AM

If anyone is interested, I played some more Kings of War. So with five games under my belt, I'm going to fully admit that my initial aversion to the rules was unfounded, and I am a full-on fan of the game.

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/11/king-of-war-marienburg.html

A couple other recent posts, too... prepping for Deadcember, some Halloween pics, etc... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: von Lucky on November 20, 2016, 04:22:38 AM
"I'm moving and won't be able to paint or game for the rest of my life." Wah, wah, waaaaah - you really are were a cry baby :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
I only said it was making a difficult situation even more difficult. ;)

Which is still true. Since I don't really have a good spot to leave my painting stuff out, I can no longer slip away for 10 minutes at a time and paint. Setting up and then cleaning up afterwards makes it impractical unless I'm going to be able to sit for at least a little longer. That's really how I had been painting... For example I would prep. food for dinner, and maybe put something in the oven, then slip off for a few minutes to quickly put a base coat or wash on a few figures while it started to cook, etc. I've been prepping figures for painting for now, since that's easier to manage (a blade, file, and a some minis in a small box; minimal clean-up time, etc.)

And the solo/remote gaming plans are still dead.

But I'm trying to find new ways to make things work. In fact, I'm switching jobs and hoping to slip in a day-off to just sit and paint during the change. Hence my optimism for Deadcember -- I may get a solid day of painting skeletons & such!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on November 23, 2016, 11:24:47 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skrolk2lg_zps2shd1u3y.jpg)

Skrolk looks great!  :-*

Maybe you can add a Skaven force to the Beastman force in the list of things I'd love to see you tackle one day? ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 25, 2016, 03:56:33 AM
Haha, thanks. I've had a Skaven army for almost as long as I've played Warhammer. They were the second army I started, and are still a favorite.* It went through one orevious revision before most of it was sold off in my desperate "miniatures or food" phase in college. I hung on to a few, but although they are due for a rebasing, they will probably keep their archaic paint. I do have a few unpainted characters, and a unit of the newest plastic clanrats (converted to pikemen/extra-long-spearmen) that are overdue for some paint. But as with most of us in the hobby... too many projects, too little time.


*I really like the concept and the Jes Goodwin sculpts, but a lot of the subsequent sculpts have been (extremely) hit-or-miss. So my interest in collecting & painting Skaven waxes and wanes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Skrolk)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on November 25, 2016, 12:48:55 PM
I think for me, that last round of Seb Perbet sculpted plastics is my favourite incarnation since the Jes Goodwin originals.
All the stuff in between, I have generally liked considerably less (not to mention that many of the models began to inexplicably look like dogs/monkeys in 6th Edition!  :-X).

Anyway, I hope that you do re-visit your Skaven sooner rather than later, as not only do I like seeing your paintwork, but also I feel they are a fun idea for a race then the more usual Tolkein-esque fare we usually see in Fantasy games.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember starts early)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 26, 2016, 03:27:58 PM
The new plastics are definitely some of the best since the original range, and I also have/like the newer version of Queek. (Maybe I should paint him soon?)



I couldn't wait and started early on Deadcember. Started at about 11:50pm last night -- Black Friday. Dead Friday?

Just base coat and initial washes on some bones.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ci3G1zfVmCU/WDkzvaiYDxI/AAAAAAAAEjU/-zU9cpsd6E4EHjb7E-PAnX_m9XYA3463QCLcB/s1600/blkdedfri.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember starts early)
Post by: Reed on November 27, 2016, 12:27:33 AM
I see you gathered some liquid inspiration  ;)
Nice start, this will look terrific once done.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember starts early)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 27, 2016, 05:57:53 AM
I see you gathered some liquid inspiration  ;)

Elija Craig, my occasional muse.  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember starts early)
Post by: aiteal on November 27, 2016, 04:09:32 PM

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ci3G1zfVmCU/WDkzvaiYDxI/AAAAAAAAEjU/-zU9cpsd6E4EHjb7E-PAnX_m9XYA3463QCLcB/s1600/blkdedfri.jpg)

where is that undead flyer from? I must have one :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember starts early)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 27, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
Old Ral Partha skeletal demon (has a flaming sword and whip.)

I got mine cheap on eBay, but it's also still in production at Iron Wind Metals

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=8191

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Premature Deadcembulation)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 30, 2016, 06:42:39 AM
Things are going to continue to be focused on the enemies of Marienburg through the end of the year. Working on the dead for Deadcember... even through it's still Whatevember.

WIP shot.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DUCTwQrFmsM/WD5sRiRVNZI/AAAAAAAAEkA/h-NTItl6oXUf-NpT0JPdz322zsuwf2dbwCEw/s1600/dedcemb16-02.jpg)

More at: http://www.zerotwentythree.com/
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Premature Deadcembulation)
Post by: DeafNala on November 30, 2016, 01:56:24 PM
The new Deadites are LOOKIN' GOOD! You have a way with bones. OUTSTANDING WORK as always!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big Skeletons)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 02, 2016, 07:57:48 PM
It's officially Deadcember, and I've officially finished the first of the (un)dead for the season.


Skeletal demon and giant from Ral Partha. (Handgunner for scale.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelgntdaem_zpsojtzjevp.jpg)




Skeletal ogres from (left to right): Ral Partha Europe, Justin from the Oldhammer FB group, Ral Partha Europe, and Krakon Games.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelogre_zpscaixfnlw.jpg)


Time is getting a little tighter for me, so I cut a few corners but I still think they all look pretty good!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big Skeletons)
Post by: beefcake on December 02, 2016, 08:10:40 PM
Very nice. I must look for those other ogre sized Skeletons as well.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 04, 2016, 05:56:48 AM
I've been waiting to finish that skeletal ogre unit for a long time. I love the figures (including some of the odd quirks.)


Next up for Deadcember's paint-a-thon (December is shaping up to involve more painting than the entire rest of the year at this pace) is a group of five skeletons that I believe are old Citadel. I'm not sure, I got them as part of a trade. They are bigger than the Nightmare Legion, but they will probably end up as filling in odd units either in the Legion or elsewhere, as needed. They're really nice sculpts, I wish I had more that were similar to this. I've had no luck in finding old metal skeletons, though -- other than these, obviously. Shields are Empire heaters with the tiny hole filled in & sanded smooth.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/armskel_zpspeorontf.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: MagpieJono on December 04, 2016, 07:40:31 AM
Yes they are Citadel sculpts. He's the catalogue link...

http://www.solegends.com/citcat2000/c2000p336-02.htm
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 05, 2016, 01:27:55 AM
Rapid work on two more figures for Deadcember. And more cheating. ;)

One is a wight that I got in a trade. It was painted very close to my own style, so I just kept the paint, gave him a new shield and base. I think it's another old Citadel figure.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/uknwt_zpsxkomteoh.jpg)

The other is the third of my vulture sculpts. Finally painted after working on the sculpting for many long years, and then the figure has been primed and sitting on my desk since earlier this year. (I got frustrated with his staff and stole the top and bottom from the GW Mordheim sprue.) Going with the limited pallette of the Undeadish again -- but I probably still could have done a little better. Worked on it in little five minute increments, whenever I could get to it, over the past few days. I should get a photo of the three sculpts together.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/vltxx_zpsfryxnnoc.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Argonor on December 05, 2016, 12:34:55 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/uknwt_zpsxkomteoh.jpg)

I love that mini, have it myself. That almost monochrome pj makes it more classy than my 80's style garishly painted one, though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: DeafNala on December 05, 2016, 02:36:58 PM
What a GREAT IDEA...The Buzzard that is. I"ve been staring at mine for some time now. It look like it needed something, AND now I know what. The Mordheim accessory lantern is a just the thing. Thanks for the idea!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 14, 2016, 01:39:19 AM


Got a surprise painted figure from the Oldhammer in the New World holiday trade, and it's awesome!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WCCZblvawCs/WFCf43jBPBI/AAAAAAAAEoI/-SC6yzdyoqEc9yFKJ2y6T3DV0Eroe0PIACLcB/s1600/swpwht16.jpg)

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/12/casualty.html

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on December 14, 2016, 12:31:20 PM
That's the best version of that figure I've seen.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: DeafNala on December 14, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
CONGRATULATIONS on the addition! That's another new miniature for me, AND a BEAUTIFULLY painted & based creation it is.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2016, 07:44:49 PM



A couple of pics of the three birds together.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/vltx3a_zpshxjfgflj.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/vltx3b_zpsc6wa7bgk.jpg)

Comments at... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2016/12/three-birds.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: frenchfever on December 17, 2016, 09:05:17 PM
it's been a while i haven't visited this thread  :-* :-* :-* :-* you are one of my favorite undead painter  :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 24, 2016, 08:13:11 PM
Thank you!


Not much time for painting lately. But wanted to wish everyone who reads my little plog a happy holiday of choice. Or not. Crom does not care.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/mcromir_zpsnwc2yb0j.jpg)

(Yeah, even recycling my Christmas image/joke from last year... no time for messing around with a new one of those, either. lol )

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 26, 2016, 11:28:19 PM

We're still working on visiting family for the holiday, but had a nice Christmas morning at home. This year I even got closer to receiving a gaming related gift than I have before, with an awesome retro themed Stranger Things t-shirt. ;)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3GbKbfQCf9Q/WGFd2Y1U7wI/AAAAAAAAEqY/79A-fH5_f2gpZ8e3ufkHzpfIu1yeHaPKACLcB/s1600/pixlr_20161225130058324.jpg)

For fun, we all got new "onsie" pajamas to wear for Christmas eve/morn. (I'm sporting a fuzzy wookie pelt.)


A week or two ago, I jumped on the opportunity to pick up a second hand set of Northumbrian Tin Soldier "Time Robbers." I loved these figures the second I saw them (earlier this year?) so even though I shouldn't have been buying myself gifts... I couldn't help myself. They arrived Christmas Eve, so that's also like a Christmas present... to myself. ;)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-n70LI7hQFpc/WGFd15O2E_I/AAAAAAAAEqU/PWQOZxmQRsEWN00T25DJKnzRK1RwfgtGACLcB/s1600/20161224_154849.jpg)

Of course, this means I need to get the rest of the range, now. :)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: DeafNala on December 27, 2016, 01:14:35 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
It looks you did well in the presents department, especially the gift from yourself...I splurged on the Frouds' new Fairy book.
AND A JOYOUS NEW YEAR!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 28, 2016, 08:50:05 PM
Thank you!

Deadcember '16 is crawling to its conclusion...

Managed to sneak in a little more painting time last night and finished (more or less -might need a touch-up or two) the three skeleton heroes: Ennio Mordini, Renzo Avanti, and Richter Kreugar.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oPAdocbe37s/WGQLXr-t7nI/AAAAAAAAErU/NIyd5ebFChsOqrpOLv7ooySLadDQZ5wBgCLcB/s1600/3bone.jpg)

Also rebased this old figure, painted ages ago, to match my current stuff.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BZIX_5aT_Fk/WGH2MxvHoFI/AAAAAAAAEq8/2piklp9UAk4S8_tHRxVTr3hb3v7LbxLLACLcB/s1600/miniskel.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: hubbabubba on December 28, 2016, 08:57:16 PM
Those old skellies look great.
Still love your rusted metals.
Anything going on that shield? A little damage?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Metternich on December 31, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
Congratulations on scoring the Time Robbers - they have a very Marienburg vibe.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 01, 2017, 11:04:09 PM
Year end hobby 2016 review & 2017 preview on my blog:

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/01/2016-review.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 09, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
Thank you! I think I may dedicate April to giants again this year.  :mrgreen:


Trailing a little behind the actual Deadcember is the Lord of the Feast, a great Warmahordes mini that I thought would look good with my Undeadish.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/lotf01_zpstelngvb4.jpg)

At some point (later in the year?) I may return to painting some more of the Undeadish rank & file, critters, and characters that I still have waiting. I really wanted to get this guy done in Deadcember, though.

I also didn't get to the oldschool wight cavalry & hero that I had wanted to paint, but maybe I will do them soon too?


I also put some flock and a magnet on the base of the figure I got from the Oldhammer in the New World trade. Will have to get a shot of him in use/context at some point!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/swpwht16b_zps6g65zoug.jpg)


My desk situation wasn't working out, unfortunately. So I've fled to the only other space available, a table in the corner of the basement. Not sure if this will work out any better, but it's worth a shot. Still getting set up, but I took a break to paint the Lord of the Feast, above. I miss my old attic.  :'(

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/desk17a_zpssepbkdwg.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Argonor on January 09, 2017, 12:52:12 PM
I think it looks ok - do you have heating down there?

If not, you might have to consider some electrical or kerosene heating device?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: DeafNala on January 09, 2017, 02:43:51 PM
Considering some of my work spots, the basement looks pretty sweet...not up there with your attic, but sweet nonetheless. Have FUN in your new spot!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Globlin on January 09, 2017, 05:51:42 PM
Nice painting on the big dead guy. I'd love to get some dedicated hobby space, even if it is a basement. I currently have to make do with the dining room table!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 10, 2017, 01:45:23 AM
Yeah, I got spoiled by the attic.

In spite of my best efforts so far, the furnace and ductwork leak as much hot/cold air into the basement as it intentionally blows into the rest of the house, so the temp is usually pretty comfortable. So far a dehumidifier has been keeping it fairly dry.

The two greatest negatives are further head bruises from the low ceiling, and the various insects (pill bugs, crickets, centipedes and spiders) whose corpses (and worse) litter the floor and ledges. I'm hoping they have no reason to craw/die/defecate all over my table. Well, those two and the deathtrap stair leading down there.

BUT, it's somewhere to keep a dedicated table for painting & sculpting, and I'm going to see if I can make it work.

If that doesn't work, I'm going back to my previous dream of buying a used delivery van and setting up a portable studio in it. :D

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on January 10, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
[...] the various insects (pill bugs, crickets, centipedes and spiders) whose corpses (and worse) litter the floor and ledges. I'm hoping they have no reason to craw/die/defecate all over my table.

I suggest using a cheap shower curtain to cover your table when you're not working. It's heavy enough to drape over properly to stop things crawling in from underneath, light enough to not spoil any work, and water resistant in case of any leaks from above. :)

[...] If that doesn't work, I'm going back to my previous dream of buying a used delivery van and setting up a portable studio in it. :D

How very "Breaking Bad" of you!  lol

Joking aside, a small caravan is probably not a bad idea - and is mobile enough to move as required if you hitch it to your car.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: DeafNala on January 13, 2017, 01:26:10 PM
The delivery van sounds like an idea. Cap'n John almost bought a two decker bus a few years ago...now THAT would have been a cool mobile studio!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 05, 2017, 05:32:53 AM
Not much in the way of painting lately. Most of the little time I've had has been put into some minis and a couple of toys that other people are still waiting on. I did sneak in one thing for myself, I put the final paint a dwarf who was over half painted for ages. A bit rushed looking, though, which is a shame since it's one of my converted classic models. I wanted some doppledwarfs to supplement the usual spear, handgun & artillery. Embarrassingly, I started these before the White Knight figures (which I need to get my hands on) were available -- if that's any indication of how slow the progress has been. The Marauder landsknecht dwarfs fall into an odd category of miniatures that I love, but hate to paint.

At any rate, here he is with some of the other conversions I've previously painted.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170204_232307_zps7gukonfu.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170204_232356_zpsqxvnbuou.jpg)



I'm still thinking about that Rogue Trader/sci-fi misanthropic pirate robot crew. I picked up a few angry/murderous looking robots from Effin Cool Miniatures today.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170204_173401_zps7jikewd7.jpg)


Speaking of Effin Cool minis, I also got a halfling for scale comparison. From left to right it's:

Citadel, Effin Cool, Westfalia, Marauder, Goblin Factory, Grenadier, a random goose. The base on the Effin Cool mini doesn't have the magnetic layer, so he will end up a little taller. A good match, in terms of size & style, for the Citadel, Goblin Factory, and Grenadier. Westfalia are a little taller with more natural proportions, and the Marauder halflings remain one of the two tiny ranges I've got (along with some of the really old Ral Partha -- which I've stripped and re-primed. So maybe I'll paint at least one of those up soon sometime in the next few years.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170204_173235_zps3qboqcun.jpg)


As I mentioned in my previous post, I've been busy with my new job, both in the office, and travelling to distant lands...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/pixlr_20170204234345805_zpseprwsnyb.jpg)


I was also happy that when I recently got back into town, we finally had a decent snow and I finally got to build an overdue first snowman with my daughter. We've been waiting for a decent snow for *years*. It was actually a little wet because it had warmed up a bit during the day, but we managed to get it all together. :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170131_183118_20170204234323686_zpsil2fa43l.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: von Lucky on February 05, 2017, 06:59:34 AM
Hah - nice sculpting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: DeafNala on February 05, 2017, 12:34:38 PM
COOL new minis, SPLENDID travel scenes, AND the Girl & Snowman make a LOVELY couple. It looks like you have been spending your time well.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 11, 2017, 07:03:03 AM
Thanks!

I don't have the patience to wait for the bases. I've been scraping together time when I can (mostly at ridiculous hours of the night, when I should be sleeping -- like now) to finish a few of the little people. I'll post better pics once the bases are done and I look them over for final touch up's when I'm more awake...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170211_011859_zpsabqodgiv.jpg)

More details at... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/02/short-on-patience-big-on-lead.html

Also... new giant to paint for my second annual Giant Month.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170211_012003_zps91ycfncv.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: white knight on February 11, 2017, 08:22:17 AM
Loving the dwarfs.  ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 12, 2017, 05:15:25 PM
THanks. Here's a finished photo, and some comparisons.

From left to right: Two previously painted Marauder dwarfs with spear, one freshly painted White Knight dwarf with spear (now available at TAG), one freshly painted Marauder dwarf with great sword, and one freshly painted, converted Marauder dwarf (swapped spear with greatsword.)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170212_013418_zpsucixvslu.jpg)




Also, the finished hobbit from Effin Cool, along with my first use of some new tufts from Shadow's Edge Miniatures.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/efcl01_zpsazvoed4l.jpg)



I also primed & base coated 15 of the Westfalia hobbits yesterday!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: DeafNala on February 12, 2017, 11:32:15 PM
The Dwarfs & Halflings are BEAUTIFULLY painted treasures. VERY WELL DONE!
The nose on the Giant has the potential to be TRULY MAGNIFICENT. Have FUN with the Big Guy.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 13, 2017, 05:41:05 AM
Thanks. Looking forward to "giant month" again.  :D




I've started painting up some Westfalia hobbits. 16 figures. 13 crossbow, 1 gunner, and the wizard & apprentice. I think I've hit a turning point in my painting "career": I don't think I can paint the eyes.

I mean, I *can*. And I may paint the apprentice's eyes. But for most of the rank & file they're just too damn small. That's a good thing, in terms of the sculpting proportion & scale. Beautiful figures. But I don't generally paint eyes on 15mm figures, and although these are still a bit bigger than that, I don't think I'm willing to invest the time in it. My own, actual, functioning human eyes are aging. I'm in my mid 40s and I've recently been experiencing some changes in my eyesight (and general eye health, which I won't go into) and I've been trying to just take it as part of the natural aging process and not freak out too much. I did paint the eyes on the sample figures I got from Westfalia last year. I can actually see the eyes on these hobbits just fine, and my hands are still steady enough to do it. But as my time shrinks and there is some extra focus (haha) required to do these details well, I think I'm going to pass on painting eyes on some 25/28mm figures for the first time in my life. I know a lot of people don't bother, even on the human sized figures. And I understand and appreciate the logic behind that, especially in the greater context of what we see at various sizes & perspectives, and the representation of that in any art form.  But I've always prided myself on doing a decent job with eyes, and always painted them. Until now.


I've run into a bit of a paint problem. There are a few off-the-shelf paint colors that I can't live without. I sometimes get a bit OCD about this, and go on epic quests or start hording paints in order to stay supplied One is a sort of dark burnt sienna color whose use evolved from an old Poly S color, which I then found a good equivalent in Ral Parha's (I think) Minotaur Fur Brown, briefly I may have used a Citadel color, but then switched to a Vallejo Game Color equivalent. I can't read the label of the almost empty bottle in front of me, but looking online maybe it's Pestilent Brown? Sort of frustrating, because I need more. I am literally stretching the last bits of paint & pigment as far as I can. But I don't really have any good options (that I am aware of) for buying Vallejo locally. I've been trying to find more accessible alternatives but that has not worked out. I now have an Imperial ton of brown paints of various shades and qualities. I'm on the verge of just trying to mix my own. Like I said, it's sort of like a burnt sienna... but not quite. It's darker, but still retains that subtle reddish color that gives it a great touch of warmth.

I've also been thinking about my plans for the Year of Gaming (aka my mid-life crisis, gaming style, in 2021 ;) ) and have some thoughts. Our new house isn't really a great space for gaming. But one of the trade offs we made with the small house, is a larger yard than our previous homes. And our garage is pretty clean and has, thus far, been unused (by us) for cars. So maybe I could try inviting some friends over for some Garagehammer in the summer. Long day of gaming, cook out on the grill, etc. My table tops are already stored in the garage rafters at the moment. I'm even tempted to make one or two more in order to accommodate larger games. If they're going to be out there, I may as well take advantage of the space, right? Especially if I want to try some all-day gaming. So... just something else I'm thinking about while hoping to get back to some sort of gaming ASAP.


Oh, the drama of a dedicated lifetime miniatures painter. ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 17, 2017, 05:29:51 AM


Starting to write down more concrete info for my long term campaign project. Inspired after finally starting to paint up my Westfalia halfmen (and a painting & collecting a handful of other hobbity folk) I've taken my first shot at a hobbit-centric WFB3 list...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/02/scrobbleton-jackrabbit-trading-company.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 19, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
I've painted the first group of Westfalia halfmen for the Jackrabbit Trading Company (JTC.) These are the crossbowmen. I liked the idea of crossbows because it's a different take on halflings. It seemed to make sense, for some use, to me. Greater draw, range, power than bows or slings. Both of those will still have a place with scouts, rangers, militia, etc. But for the "professional" guard of the JTC, I'm going to use some crossbow troops.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170218_220737_zpsdbn2orgg.jpg)

If you look carefully, there is actually one with a handgun. I picked up some miscast figures from Westfalia, with the intention of using them for casualty markers. And I will. But I needed a few more figures for this group, and one of the supposed miscasts was a handgunner that I couldn't find any flaw on. So "Boomstick Bill" the hobbit joined the ranks. Bill's always got to do his own thing.

On that topic, I still wanted one more. So I picked a halberdier from the miscasts, reconstructed his helmet and side of his head (a couple of big bubbles in the casting) and then cut off the halberd and put together a standard. So once this guy is painted, he will join the above unit plus the first sample figure I received from Westfalia, giving me a unit of 16. Or two smaller units of 8. I regret not getting more crossbow hobbits, and if they become  available for general purchase, I would like a second batch.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170218_154617_zpsfsqgit0m.jpg)


Yesterday I received (another) package in the mail from Shadespyre. A small batch of the later Citadel armoured skeletons, to match the few I painted up in Deadcember. I knew they were on their way, so I also got hold of a sample pack of similar looking former Harlequin skeletons from Black Tree Design to see how they scaled up. In the photo below, there are three Citadel figures on the left, and three Black Tree figures on the right. Pretty close match!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170218_160843_zpsmvltfacd.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: Elbows on February 19, 2017, 08:35:04 PM
Man I do miss those armoured skeletons from Citadel, they were fantastic.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: von Lucky on February 20, 2017, 08:17:45 PM
Wow, you're hobby output is really crippling :P
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2017, 06:01:34 AM
Man I do miss those armoured skeletons from Citadel, they were fantastic.

When I got the first few, I wasn't loooking for them. They came with other figures in a trade. But after painting them, I became quite fond. So I'm hugely grateful that I got some more through the kindness of a fellow undead enthusiast. Seeing the Black Tree equivalents, I'm even happier that there is more variety still being (very affordably!) cast. In fact, I foresee an order of skeletons (and maybe a few other things) from Black Tree in my future, sometime this year...



Wow, you're hobby output is really crippling :P


Shhh! The only reason I got this done is I'm working on 4-5 hrs. of sleep a night the past week and a half. ;D




I finished the converted pennon/standard bearer for the crossbow unit. I would still like to add a badge to the banner, but have not made up my mind yet. I may plan that out for various units when I get further into the project.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170221_001211_zpsbheum6fo.jpg)


A group shot, including the above figure and champion, the first sample figure from Westfalia. He's painted in different colors, but I will let that slide as a matter of personal choice by the Captain of the Crossbow.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170221_001521_zpsjcpha4nq.jpg)


Overall... great figures. Easy to paint & look great. Very happy with how they turned out, and I regret that I didn't get more. So at least one more unit this size is now on my wish list.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dwarf conversion, bots, life)
Post by: tomrommel1 on February 21, 2017, 06:56:33 AM
your halfmen are really nice indeed :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...a company of halflings...)
Post by: Little Odo on February 23, 2017, 07:19:03 AM
That is a great looking unit. Your painting has certainly done them justice.  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...a company of halflings...)
Post by: DeafNala on February 24, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
The are a FINE LOOKING Company of Hobbit Folk. You really do have a WONDERFUL eye for colors & a deft hand with the brush. VERY WELL DONE as always!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 26, 2017, 06:43:08 AM
I've had a lot of questions about how I paint rust. So here's my two bits...


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rustcomp_small_zpsskayfri7.jpg) (http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/02/rust-tutorial.html)

Seriously, go clicky on the linky and  visit the blog for a better photo and description... (http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/02/rust-tutorial.html)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: beefcake on February 26, 2017, 09:34:23 AM
Hmmmm, "site can't be reached"
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: von Lucky on February 26, 2017, 09:44:21 AM
Try:
http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/02/rust-tutorial.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: beefcake on February 26, 2017, 10:04:23 AM
Ha, yep. Now I see the problem. Cheers mate
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 26, 2017, 02:39:10 PM
Whoops, sorry. Link fixed now.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 26, 2017, 11:41:24 PM
Painted a couple more odd hobbits. I probably won't use the mounted guy for gaming, but wanted to re-paint him for nostalgia's sake.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170226_180213_zps1vxs8ljp.jpg)


And another ongoing hobbit comparison shot.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170226_180615_zpslpxk1qbg.jpg)

Left to right: Westfalia, Goblin Factory, Citadel, Ral Partha, Marauder, Effin Cool, and... ho ho, who do we have here on the right? Some upcoming figure(s) yet to be painted...? ;)


Since I've been painting short folk, I thought I would paint up my my favorite old goblin figure. I have/had a few others but I think they've all been traded off or given away. I'm keeping this guy -- it's my last one.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170226_180148_zpstnqvn2r5.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (RUST - step by step...)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on February 27, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
Lovely stuff - especially the Lotr hobbits bring back memories. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2017, 04:16:42 AM
Lovely stuff - especially the Lotr hobbits bring back memories. :)

Speaking of memories, I was busy and lost track of an eBay auction for the old Grenadier halfling box. They were some of the first minis I owned/painted. I still have some of them, but would love a complete set. I know better and should have just bid high from the start.  :(




Minotaurs, painted for the same person for whom I previously painted a few beastmen. Although I loved the beastmen, I'm not terribly fond of these plastic minotaur figures.

Probably won't be painting much more commission work for the foreseeable future.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/chaobeef_zps7kb48ckr.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows...)
Post by: white knight on March 12, 2017, 09:46:30 AM
They really are horrible models. Good paintjob, but... o_o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 13, 2017, 02:42:11 AM


 lol Thanks.



The Month of Marsh is upon us! Been busy with other things, so just finally squeezed in a little time this weekend to finish up these eight figures I had started last summer. Converted from Citadel plastic savage orcs, using my resin Fomorian heads.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/savfomor01_zpshszwnvsg.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/savfomor02_zpshwjskcqr.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/savfomor03_zpsxkyxrqjj.jpg)

They will serve as lesser Fomorian warriors, or regular Fimm for WFB.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: beefcake on March 13, 2017, 04:37:39 AM
That pitch fork is nicely done (along with the rest of what you have) did you scratch build it?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: tomrommel1 on March 13, 2017, 06:50:56 AM
very nice additions  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2017, 04:19:25 AM
Thanks!

That pitch fork is nicely done (along with the rest of what you have) did you scratch build it?

Yes. After posting WIP pics of the first few, someone suggest I try giving one a frog spear, which I thought was a great idea. I made it using some plastic tube, a bit of wire, and a small bead on the end, along with a tiny bit of putty to clean things up a bit.

Supposed to look similar to one of these: http://www.mudhole.com/4-Tine-Frog-Spear-GIG-4

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 18, 2017, 05:44:58 AM

Does it count as a St. Patrick's day thing to work on miniatures inspired by Irish myth?

I finished the the Troll Outpost swamp mercenary/Fomorian/Fimir.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170318_010442_20170318010919664_zpsdalrqmuq.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170318_010425_zpsmsygvbzj.jpg)


I've finished the sculpting work on the Reaper orc conversion. I happened to have one of my (very) few resin cast tails available, so I used that. The foot looks big in the photo, but I swear, it's not that far out of proportion IRL! Also prepped the four classic Citadel Fimir Fianna/Nobles. The guy on the left was originally mine back in the day, but had been converted to a champion of Slaanesh in the 3rd ed. RoC days, and had wings and a bright paintjob. At some point I gave it to a friend who was collecting Fimir because I figured that was a better use for it, and eventually it (along with the rest of his small but almost complete Fimir collection) made it's way back to me last year.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170318_010525_zpsagag56vw.jpg)

So that's what I will probably be working on next for the Month of Marsh!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: Andym on March 18, 2017, 06:43:10 AM
Oooooo! Fantastic! Those Fimirs look amazing! :-* The champion especially!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: DeafNala on March 18, 2017, 01:03:12 PM
The Swamp Folk are wonderfully converted/painted/based creations...I also love the pitchfork. As always, VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on March 23, 2017, 10:03:23 AM
Lovely work - and thank you for the rust tutorial (especially as I seem to remember asking you abut it myself).

I agree the plastic Minotaurs are... Not great. Which is a shame, as the plastic beastmen are really nice. I like your paintjobs on them though. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: Keith on March 23, 2017, 10:25:55 AM
Sigh ... I love visiting this thread. Nothing constructive to say other than that. :-)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Mad cows and the Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 26, 2017, 06:53:15 AM

Thanks!


This may be the end of what I can get done for the Month of Marsh... but we'll see. Maybe one last push still to come!  I have BIG plans for April, once again!  ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170326_012345_zpspchldxqa.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170326_013014_zpsc9xrvrnk.jpg)


I also based up the old Ral Partha figure I used for my rust tutorial. Sir Rusty is based on a 40x40 base, due to his wide stance.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170325_113301_zpspbasgdig.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Fimir & Sir Rusty)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 26, 2017, 11:36:22 PM
Also...



I enjoyed concocting an excuse to paint some of my giant collection last year, and even got a game with an all-giant army at the last Oldhammer USA Day.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20161001_172001_zps0olylh1a.jpg)

So I'm going to do it again for April, 2017!

Once again my goals are large (heh heh) and probably larger than possible. But that's OK. I still have the Warploque giant primed & ready to go from last year, along with a few more. My usual Empire volunteer included, as usual, for scale reference.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/bigapril17-00_zpsv28hlf8q.jpg)

Not pictured above is one more, The Otherworld GIant. (Ignore the trolls for the moment, I will get to those later ;) ) Just got him in the mail, so he needs some clean-up and assembly.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GRdIMfqEzJ8/WNST3wq8yfI/AAAAAAAAFFY/b6sLZ8cddKIZf6ej3NBrvje8YbRjdL_QQCLcB/s1600/april17-pre-wip.jpg)



Looking forward to doing this again! But for now -- still a week of Marsh/March left, so I'm going to try squeezing in a bit more swampy themed stuff for that challenge.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Fimir & Sir Rusty)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on March 27, 2017, 02:23:56 PM
Awesome.

I need a group shot of the Fimir force, not sure I've ever seen so many so well painted in one place before!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Fimir & Sir Rusty)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 27, 2017, 10:50:58 PM


Funny you mention that, I was thinking it's about time for a group at the end of the month. I don't have a gaming table at my new house*, so I will have to work out another spot large enough to set them out. Not that it's a large army, by any means. Well, not yet...

Until then, I can think of at least two other Fimir Armies to admire online...

http://mrsaturdaysmumblings.blogspot.com/p/army-showcase-fimir-of-fir-domhan.html

http://fimmmccools.blogspot.com/search/label/Fimir



*Technically I do. It's in pieces, in the rafters of the garage.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 31, 2017, 05:40:59 AM
While waiting for the last Month of Marsh project to set up, I worked on this, which ended up more interesting (if somewhat difficult to photograph.) I've got a pretty well outlined story in my head about these...


"Trois"

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170331_002125_20170331003237829_zpsmmepey0m.jpg)

The hobbit on the left is from Reaper, the two on the right are from Westfalia. The paint on the mage was semi inspired by Dave Andrews Bretonnian mage from the Warhammer Armies (3rd ed) book. (Thus, the bleu cloak.)  :wink:
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 03, 2017, 01:23:04 AM
Since I had a few requests for a group photo of the warband so far...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/fomgrpa1200_zpsuuxtzspm.jpg)

Description and plans for expansion at... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/04/fomorian-warband.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on April 03, 2017, 01:47:14 AM
Yep. That's awesome.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on April 04, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Looks fantastic - love the look of the green beastie at the back. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: DeafNala on April 04, 2017, 01:24:35 PM
The new additions & the Group Portrait are WONDERFUL. OUTSTANDING WORK!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 06, 2017, 06:16:11 PM
Thanks!

I would need to make some vast improvements in the quality of both the original sculpts and the resin castings.


I'm on a quest for half-orcs. I want them as mercenaries for various factions. The idea being they are effective, or at least adequate, but sort of a last-choice option. Sort of like employing pirates, bandits, etc. I've got some generally olsdschool aesthetics in mind.

Yesterday, I got a small order of one of the ranges I've thought worth trying. Black Tree's "Orcs of the Crimson Wave." https://eoeorbis.com/collections/fantasy/range_orcs-and-goblins?page=3

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170406_073236_zps8wqg93b5.jpg)

I also just discover some orcs from Scotia-Grendel. http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=221_222_46_203_204 I only care for the orcs & greater orcs.

Might be worth mixing in some humans, to, for those whose features favor that portion of their heritage. Or just human outsiders who have found common cause with the half-orcs. So I'd like to find some rough looking rabble, bandits, etc. too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trois)
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 06, 2017, 06:32:46 PM
Great project!

What about the Frostgrave soldiers? You can get individual sprues on eBay (at least on this side of the pond), and they're rough-looking in a good way: quite a scurvy crew, all in all. I think quite a few could even be turned into half-orcs purely through paintwork (and you could always greenstuff a fang or two here or there). They'd mix perfectly well with the old Aly Morrison half-orcs, for example.

(http://nstarmagazine.com/FROSTGRAVE_htm_files/9086.png)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 11, 2017, 04:39:46 AM
I'v been looking for an excuse to get a bic of those...  ;) Thanks for the suggestion.



My Big April challenge/theme is going slow. But I got a little work done...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/BigApril17b_zpsdf8tptwq.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on April 11, 2017, 05:17:58 AM
Awesome collection, yet the classic giant on the left works bst for me.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 11, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
Awesome collection, yet the classic giant on the left works bst for me.

Now that I have started painting all four at once, that is the one I am also becoming most fond of - although I really like the big Warploque fellow quite a bit too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: majorsmith on April 11, 2017, 08:51:03 PM
I agree the giant on the left is brilliant
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: von Lucky on April 11, 2017, 10:02:18 PM
And what's in the bag? ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 11, 2017, 10:40:32 PM
The bag contains the recently acquired Otherworld Giant.  :D

http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/giants/bs5-the-otherworld-giant/

He may show up a bit late to the party. ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 12, 2017, 05:11:35 AM
Almost done with that Tom Meier Cloud Giant...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170411_235722_zpsw8ily1gy.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: cyagen on April 12, 2017, 09:49:45 AM
Your tread is a pleasure to follow sir and make me ashamed to show my feeble attempts to throw paint at miniatures.

 ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 16, 2017, 02:50:33 PM
Thanks you very much!




Finished the oldschool Meier cloud giant.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mcgiant-ba17b_zps1wxrzicq.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/mcgiant-ba17a_zps5yvmd9sv.jpg)

Making progress on the last metal produced Citadel giant, and the old C28 Citadel giant I have. They should be done by the end of my April challenge. As for the Warploque giant (not pictured)... it may not be April, but I plan on finishing him, even if it's not done til May.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/2wipa-ba17a_zps4cooyal5.jpg)

When I first got into miniature gaming in my youth (Battlesystem, Chaos Wars...) it was difficult for my friends and I to find figures. Some of my first minis were from the Grenadier "Halfling Party" set that two of us split. In fact, I still have some of them. But today, a full box of nostalgia arrived in the mail!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/hbbtprty_zpsargxakuc.jpg)


Off to Easter festivities with the family. Watch out for those eggs...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/alieggsm_zps31vnysjz.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 17, 2017, 03:19:08 AM
Snuck in some time to hide in the basement today (Easter) like a sneaky troll and finish up the old Citadel C28 giant. He was missing a weapon, so I sculpted him a new club. I was originally going to be satisfied with just one of these multi-piece giant, but I think I would like to get all three bodies.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/c28a1_zpsfavp5ydu.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/c28a2_zpsdo0g9mfb.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: von Lucky on April 17, 2017, 03:47:54 AM
Nice skin tones on the last few and tartan on this latest giant.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 21, 2017, 05:32:06 AM
Nice skin tones on the last few and tartan on this latest giant.

Thanks! The skin style was sort of a test for painting (soon, I hope) Drew Williams' recent troll sculpts. I'm aiming (not quite there, yet) for a more Bauer-ish style. (Go figure.) Not so bright & highlighted, and maybe conveying bit of the nature of watercolor using transparent washes. I think I'd still like to tone things down a bit more.

The tartan... not my best. A bit rushed. But I'm OK with it.



Painted up the last of the metal Citadel giants, before they switched to plastic/resin/whatever.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/lcg01-ba17b_zpsxbrodpxe.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/lcg01-ba17a_zpswvg4zoja.jpg)



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: DeafNala on April 21, 2017, 01:18:56 PM
There certainly are some BEAUTIFUL pieces churning out of your basement lair. OUTSTANDING WORK...some nicely painted mushrooms too!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 21, 2017, 01:57:23 PM
I hope some of them seem familiar - and that my painting does your sculpting justice. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: DeafNala on April 21, 2017, 04:23:14 PM
I hope some of them seem familiar - and that my painting does your sculpting justice. :)

Your painting is really wonderful. I love seeing them in colors other than the ones I'm in the habit of using. Let me know if you need more.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: majorsmith on April 21, 2017, 05:21:11 PM
That metal gw giant is great I've got mine made up but almost too scared to paint it!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 26, 2017, 05:30:39 AM
That metal gw giant is great I've got mine made up but almost too scared to paint it!

It's a clean sculpt, nice strong detail -- honestly it's fun to paint. Really a good mini for a lot of different painting styles. Just go for it!  :D



Still working on the last two giants. No way I will get to the Otherworld giant (still in a bag) but I'm still hoping to finish the Warploque giant, and the freshly started Ral Partha frost giant. Shown here, WIP, for ridiculous scale differences. Made a lot of progress on Frosty. Added some more subtle washes to the big guy.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/2wipa-ba17b_zpsttlpo6pk.jpg)


While waiting for paint/washes to dry on those two, I (very) quickly painted up two test figures from the Disciples of the Red Dead Redemption, based on the same palette I used on the Undeadish. The idea being that they have similarly been enticed to/enthralled by the forces of undeath. But these are secretive urban cultists rather than full tribes converted wholesale.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dotdr-test01_zpsdjhzijg4.jpg)

I'm still considering giving them normal, if somewhat pale, human flesh instead of the pale grey flesh of the Undeadish. Another option is maybe adding some trim to the edges of the robes -- though I can always add that later.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: beefcake on April 26, 2017, 06:15:07 AM
I used to have those red redemption guys. Great old school minis. You've done a great job on them.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: majorsmith on April 26, 2017, 09:18:56 AM
Cultist looks great!!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 29, 2017, 05:34:11 AM
Thanks!



I think this is the last giant I'm going to get done by the end of April -- the Tom Meier/Ral Partha fire giant, which I thought made a nice frost giant...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CBgphz9Gc5A/WQQLtjJ2cGI/AAAAAAAAFPc/3F5rBgIRDr4BLjt_8DfH3UQ4N-WcXCWHACLcB/s1600/pixlr.jpg)

I'm still working on the (not quite "oldhammer" but it has that same sort of charm to me) Warploque giant. Going to continue painting him past April, probably a little at a time. Almost done with the washes on the flesh...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sZp8gls5OrY/WQQLtgOA6MI/AAAAAAAAFPY/JL1X9G09Sx83ao37EHoI3sVLFjvLLXn8ACLcB/s1600/wlq-wip-ba17-01.jpg)

Rambling about these and more on my blog.... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/04/one-more-giant-down-one-to-go-and-beyond.html

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: beefcake on April 29, 2017, 07:33:53 AM
Excellent painting there. How big is the fire frost giant?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 02, 2017, 03:11:20 AM
Excellent painting there. How big is the fire frost giant?

Thank you. He's pretty small for a giant, you can see in the pics below.




Here's what I managed to get painted for Big April '17:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ba17-050117_zpsfouiiaya.jpg)

And a showing off progress shot of my painted giant collection so far....

Meat-giants...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/meatgiants050117_zpsokkyn273.jpg)

(I didn't paint the big Black Scorpion giant on the left.)



Skeletal giants...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/skelegiants050117_zpsw5lhce30.jpg)



And for the sake of completeness, my rat giant...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/ratgiant050117_zpsssdz1kpr.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on May 02, 2017, 07:30:06 AM
I wish I had a giant giant collection like that.

They look magnificent.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 07, 2017, 04:40:22 PM
I quickly finished painting and based some of the undeadish cultists. They're mostly old Citadel Disciples of the Red Dead Redemption troopers, plus an old (chaos?) wizard, and one of the new "oldhammer" figures (this one from Ramshackle Games - bearing an "old hammer") I got at the last Oldhammer USA day. I thought the latter two would fit well with the unit, and I'm not disappointed!

I'm still in the process of painting the four command figures from the Disciples unit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dotdr01_zpsxfzbrpne.jpg)


I also got to play my first games of any sort... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/05/game-day-disciples-wip.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: von Lucky on May 07, 2017, 09:58:37 PM
Nice blacks and greys!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 14, 2017, 06:00:59 AM
Work in progress...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170514_004006_20170514004841066_zpsxlzwob8b.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: von Lucky on May 14, 2017, 06:13:42 AM
Nice painting!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: Duncan McDane on May 14, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
Superb. The eyes of the owlthingy really seem alive  :).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: DeafNala on May 14, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Superb. The eyes of the owlthingy really seem alive  :).

I agree. The Owl's eyes ensure that the piece will be WONDROUS to behold...a FINE start!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on May 14, 2017, 01:23:00 PM
That Hippowl is ace. Everything is. :--)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: Thorlokk the boneless on May 14, 2017, 04:06:36 PM
love the tats and mask on the sword swinging blonde !
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 15, 2017, 05:58:46 AM
Thanks all! I decided to take a different approach with the eyes this time and was also happy with how it turned out.

Not sure who the sword swinging blonde is referencing...  ???



I added the last few troopers to the cultists, plus an old Citadel cleric (front rank, to the right) who also seemed to fit as another champion. I still have a second Disciples command set, but don't know how soon I will paint them. Maybe just the standard bearer and musician? Looks like I can use this as either a medium-large unit, or split them into two smaller ones.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/dotdr02_zpsw6pve15o.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: von Lucky on May 15, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
Not sure who the sword swinging blonde is referencing...  ???

I think it's this guy in the middle:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/meatgiants050117_zpsokkyn273.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: Devoted of Slaanesh on May 15, 2017, 10:18:30 PM
Love your giants collection! Nicely done mate!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: tomrommel1 on May 18, 2017, 08:35:37 AM
Top notch giants
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Cultists)
Post by: majorsmith on May 18, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
All good, but love the cultists !
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 21, 2017, 04:48:41 AM
Thanks!


Halfling owlgryph! It's a metal Reaper figure, with the top half of the (tiny) dwarf rider swapped out for the top half of a Westphalia halfman. I swapped the halfling's sword for the dwarf's spear/lance, though, as I thought it was a more appropriate weapon.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/owlryph01_zps0tsiiimx.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/owlryph02_zps0oce0ud5.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/owlryph03_zpsgtbfzak2.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 21, 2017, 07:41:09 AM
That's superb on all counts! I love the eyes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: fred on May 21, 2017, 08:30:48 AM
Cracking work, both the conversion and the painting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: majorsmith on May 21, 2017, 09:37:53 AM
Super cool!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on May 21, 2017, 11:45:37 PM
Damn, that Owl-Griff looks fantastic, and I too love the eyes!

I am also very keen on your cultists - they look very sinister, and I have a rather big soft spot for those models. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: tomrommel1 on May 22, 2017, 06:57:44 AM
stunning
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halfling Owlgryph)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 23, 2017, 05:55:15 AM
Thank you, everyone!



I added one last RP Meier giant to my collection. I was trying to get it before "Big April" ended, but missed out. Still, it didn't take too long to track on down for a reasonable price.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/tmfg01_zpskrwuys16.jpg)

And a shot of the three RP Meier giants together.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/3tmg_zpsfwd3z6r1.jpg)

...so far. Should I try to get the rest? I think these are some of the best of his giants from that period.


General painting note... I added a thin blue ink wash (Superman style?) to the newest giants hair & beard, and
think it really helped give the black/grey a bit of life and extra punch & contrast!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 14, 2017, 01:41:04 PM

Very slow progress on the half-orc unit. Base flesh colors done, still have highlighting & details.

I think I need to come up with a name & background for this small mercenary regiment.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170613_225607_zpsk2ruvbny.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: boneio on June 14, 2017, 01:51:16 PM
Orcs of the Crimson Wave? I picked up a few of those as testers some months ago, they look like nice models.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Reed on June 14, 2017, 02:27:16 PM
Are those from Black Tree Designs? You've made them look 1000x times better than their horrific website.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 15, 2017, 03:35:25 AM
Orcs of the Crimson Wave? I picked up a few of those as testers some months ago, they look like nice models.

Yes! I thought they would make good half orcs. I like them. Nice sculpts & castings. I wasn't fond of the helmets at first, but they're growing on me.

I did swap out the shields for others I had. The ones they came with were OK, but a bit large if I wanted to squeeze the figures onto 20mm bases. They were also a bit too uniform for my concept of half-orcs, too.


Are those from Black Tree Designs? You've made them look 1000x times better than their horrific website.

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I've barely started! ;)

Yes, Black Tree. I think half the problem with the web site pics is that they're too small to see clearly enough.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: beefcake on June 15, 2017, 05:39:37 AM
Great work.
Black tree really surprises me when I get their minis because they look great in real life but the web pics are rather lacking as you say. I reckon they would sell much more if they had better photos. (well painted photos usually sucker me in)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: boneio on June 15, 2017, 12:43:18 PM
Yes, Black Tree. I think half the problem with the web site pics is that they're too small to see clearly enough.

Spot on. I bought some things from Ral Partha Europe and had much the same experience, great models but poor photography.

You'll have your whole regiment painted before I even start my three orcs, I think!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Hobgoblin on June 15, 2017, 01:47:25 PM
The half-orcs are looking great! The models strike me as particularly good matches as hybrids of the mid-80s Citadel orcs.

I yield to no one in my love for Aly Morrison's magnificent half-orcs, but they always look to me more like hybrids of his (equally magnificent) hobgoblins rather than the Citadel orcs. (As the hobgoblins are closer to Tolkien's orcs, that doesn't bother me in the slightest.)

These fellows, on the other hand, look like they trace half their unfortunate ancestry straight to Kev Adams' beetle-browed, jaw-jutting classics.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Lord Borjado on June 17, 2017, 09:48:12 AM
I hadn't read this topic before and I'd read all the pics. There are amazing minis and beatiful paint job!
Love the halfling units  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 18, 2017, 07:45:36 AM
I hadn't read this topic before and I'd read all the pics. There are amazing minis and beatiful paint job!
Love the halfling units  :-*

Thanks! I would love to paint more of the halflings, but I'm currently put off by dealing with straightening the bent resin spears & lances. Otherwise beautiful figures, and at the top of my list of minis I want to paint!

The half-orcs are looking great! The models strike me as particularly good matches as hybrids of the mid-80s Citadel orcs.

I yield to no one in my love for Aly Morrison's magnificent half-orcs, but they always look to me more like hybrids of his (equally magnificent) hobgoblins rather than the Citadel orcs. (As the hobgoblins are closer to Tolkien's orcs, that doesn't bother me in the slightest.)

These fellows, on the other hand, look like they trace half their unfortunate ancestry straight to Kev Adams' beetle-browed, jaw-jutting classics.

I think that's an incredibly accurate assessment. And pretty much why I chose them as my half-orcs, as well.

Unfortunately, the old Aly Morrison half orcs and hobgoblins aren't within easy reach for me. Otherwise, I'd be painting up units of both! ;)


Spot on. I bought some things from Ral Partha Europe and had much the same experience, great models but poor photography.

You'll have your whole regiment painted before I even start my three orcs, I think!


Haha. Well, maybe. Stalling out a bit, so we'll see.  ;)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Spooktalker on June 19, 2017, 06:39:34 AM
Cool to see a group like the black tree orcs have some light shed on them and creep out of obscurity for a moment. I like the colors. Like others haven't got a good look at them before. Would like to see a couple beside other figures pulled from the group... maybe when you finish and they are next in front of the camera.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 20, 2017, 05:37:45 AM
Thanks. Once the unit is finished, I will take some individual photos. (And edit them in Phnotoshop rather than my phone, like the one below).


I finished (almost) the two half-orcs I started with, because I wanted to see how they would turn out. Pretty happy with the results. Still haven't decided on a regiment name or emblem, but I do know I want red for what little color they have.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170619_235900_20170620000258840_zps7qxophqk.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Hobgoblin on June 20, 2017, 02:27:27 PM
They look great! I like the varied skintones.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: majorsmith on June 20, 2017, 02:56:24 PM
They look pretty nice!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: DeafNala on June 20, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
They look great! I like the varied skintones.

I agree; i.e., your various skin tones are warm & a striking part of your color schemes. Your brushwork is exceptional. VERY WELL DONE as always!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: boneio on June 20, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Ahh, they're great! Good to see them with a nice paint job and not bare metal product shots.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: MagpieJono on June 21, 2017, 02:13:52 AM
You've done a lovely job on those. Black Tree should pay you to use the pictures on their website. They knock the socks off the ones they have displayed.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 21, 2017, 04:52:03 AM
Thanks! I think BTD have quite a few gems in their catalog! I just think they've been overshadowed by newer brands. I've previously painted some of their other ranges either for myself or on commission, and recently picked up a few other "test" packs of figures and have generally been very happy with the both sculpting and casting quality. If my gaming budget permitted, I'd throw a pile of money at BTD. But for now, there will be some test paints of a few halflings & skeletons coming at some point. ;)


Heh. For a while I was considering sending a certain other manufacturer an offer that if they sent me figures, I would take decent quality photos (just "inked" figures, but they could have painted pics too if/when the figures eventually got painted) and email them back for use on the web site. If they're figures I'm interested in, I'd work for lead! No cash required. lol

Honestly, I'd just let BTD use the pics if they asked. But unfortunately, I replaced the shields that came with the figures with an assortment of alternates from my bits bins. They're not bad shields, just not what I had in mind, and too large to fit with my 20mm basing. So my minis aren't exactly representative of what's for sale.

I think decent web photos are one of the cheapest, most effective ways to market minis now, and I can think quite a few manufacturers that I wish would do better. But I also understand that most manufacturers are small operations that are rooted in a love for the hobby rather than corporate businesses with a full staff of specialists. And each of those hobbyist-businessmen/women have their own strengths and weaknesses -- which may not include professional photography or e-commerce skills. So I try to be understanding. ;)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Spooktalker on June 21, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
They look great! Excellent paintjobs on some nice half-orcs.

And I agree Black Tree lead is legit. In fact I may drop these pics in my "next black tree order" picture album. :)  I have made some big orders recently and got great service and quality castings. In the back of my mind for many years I knew I would kick myself if I didn't get the Kev Adams Dwarfs range and finally went in, and am pleased. Have had various of the Adams goblins but got the rest of those available I didn't have and other dwarfs besides. The warmachines are great, the giant stone thrower and flame cannon in particular. Some other gems are the inquisitors, which make great cultists, the witches, a "gray wizard" style wizard... I could go on.

I agree completely about taking decent pics of one's miniatures offerings.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: MagpieJono on June 21, 2017, 10:09:03 AM
I also agree. I ordered some skeletons last year from BTD and was very impressed with the price and the quality of the models.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Metternich on July 01, 2017, 06:20:10 PM
Those Ral Partha Meir giants are golden oldies; nice to see them out and about - good paint jobs on what continues to be good sculpting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 02, 2017, 04:12:57 PM
Thanks. Tom Meier is one of the masters of miniatures sculpting, and I think even his old sculpts still stand up well. Painting them is a pleasure -- in fact I think it's hard to appreciate some of the detail and character of the sculpts from photos online, and they become more apparent as you paint.



Re: Black Tree Designs -- they've got one of their better sales going on right now, with most fantasy and historicals packs at 50% off.

https://eoeorbis.com/
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 04, 2017, 05:44:01 AM

Slow progress on the half orcs.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170703_225804_zpstrnwwnwh.jpg)

As I've been painting them, I've been thinking that I'd like to add some more half-orcs of varying appearance and size. Initially I was thinking about some smaller half-orcs, but tonight it struck me that I might slip in one or two of the larger Tre Manor brutes that I like using for conversions/Formorication. So...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170703_225903_zpsfm1yerpz.jpg)

Hard to tell from the pic, but he's noticeably larger than the rest of them. I took this pic with the big guy on a 40x40, but after cleaning him up and looking at him in the unit, I opted to glue him to a 20x40 base instead and it seems to keep a more consistent density in the unit. I may throw a second Reaper-Manor orc in there too.

So, I'm still on the hunt for other options. I've previously mentioned the Scotia-Grendel orcs (http://"http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=221_222_46_203_204&sort=20a&page=1"), but I think I will hold off on those for a unit of their own. They've got a different aesthetic, almost like an Ian Miller influenced orc. So I'd like to get a bunch, but keep them as a separate half-orc project.* As far as mixing with these, I think I will go back to Reaper for some of the old Bob Olley sculpted orcs. In fact, I think I may pick up a shaman, also by Olley, because I really like this figure...

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/02328_G.jpg)

I also spotted this half-orc while browsing the site, and I think she will end up in the unit too...

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03215_G.jpg)

As far as some other, smaller half-orcs, I'm still wondering if maybe some of the old Asgard orcs might fit the role... http://www.thevikingforge.net/25mm-fantasy-orcs.html



*FWIW, I 'm getting further into the idea of creating specific mercenary companies or regiments rather than just painting figures and calling them "mercenaries" and being done with it. I'm OK keeping all the generic landsknechts I've got on that basis. But I think my new projects will all have more to them. So the current batch of half-orcs are getting a backstory developed as I paint, similar to the way I've been working on the Scrobbleton Jackrabbit Trading Company for the hobbits. This has a secondary effect of giving me an outlet for putting down some of the geography and cultural background that I've had in my head.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 04, 2017, 08:27:14 AM
very nice painting
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 04, 2017, 09:38:23 AM
They look a tremendously scurvy bunch!

One thought: for the bigger, more orcish brutes, you could perhaps use entirely Marienburgish skintones - so that their evident monstrosity is coupled with clear signs of their human ancestry.


As far as some other, smaller half-orcs, I'm still wondering if maybe some of the old Asgard orcs might fit the role... http://www.thevikingforge.net/25mm-fantasy-orcs.html

If you like, I could post some size-comparison shots tonight when I get back from work. I've got a batch of Asgard orcs in the early stages of painting, many of which are temporarily on 20 x 20 bases (they're destined for my HotT hordes). I also have three of the great orcs unpainted. Those will happily fit on 20 x 20s (I plan to have all three on a 60 x 30 base), but are a bit bigger than Citadel half-orcs.

The smaller sorts are very small - smaller than early-80s Citadel night goblins.


*FWIW, I 'm getting further into the idea of creating specific mercenary companies or regiments rather than just painting figures and calling them "mercenaries" and being done with it. I'm OK keeping all the generic landsknechts I've got on that basis. But I think my new projects will all have more to them. So the current batch of half-orcs are getting a backstory developed as I paint, similar to the way I've been working on the Scrobbleton Jackrabbit Trading Company for the hobbits. This has a secondary effect of giving me an outlet for putting down some of the geography and cultural background that I've had in my head.

Nice idea. And that gives you the option of mixing up troops from various companies to create an even less trustworthy mob of deserters and renegades.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 04, 2017, 02:29:09 PM
Nice idea. And that gives you the option of mixing up troops from various companies to create an even less trustworthy mob of deserters and renegades.

Yes, exactly! And I've got some ideas for hosting games involving two sides bidding for mercenary companies to determine their armies before the battle starts. That can go several ways, either simple, or a larger multi-player game with two leaders, and the rest of the players being the mercenary captains who they will negotiate with -- each of whom will have their own set of victory conditions in addition to those of their employer, plus various rivalries, etc. with the other mercenary captains.

All I need to some time to actually play some games.  ::)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: beefcake on July 04, 2017, 09:13:06 PM
Very nice. I like the varied skintones.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: MagpieJono on July 04, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
They're looking lovely.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 05, 2017, 01:05:59 AM
Thanks!

Scale shot of the big guys, I've got two I can put in the unit.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/20170704_175411_zpscuodghs4.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 05, 2017, 09:29:23 AM
They look very promising!

Here are a few comparison shorts of Citadel half-orcs and Asgard orcs (all in various states of undress, I'm afraid). As you can see, they range from being quite a bit bigger and beefier to really small. The extreme slouching poses on some of them would nicely accentuate a trend that was present in the Citadel ones, though: while some were upright like the chap with the scimitar and shield, others were hunched or slouching (the guy with the two-handed sword and the hero with the axe).

The square bases here are all 20 x 20mm.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 10, 2017, 05:25:01 AM
Thank you, Hobgoblin! I think the Asgard orcs will find a home in my collection one way or another. I really like them, and i'm thinking about getting a full set and using them however they fit.

As you can all see, I am yet another victim of the Death Throes of Photobucket. So for now I have a decent backup plan for new photos, and will be looking for alternative options for new, flexible image hosting. To be honest, this is not unexpected, and I'm surprised Photobucket is even still around. At any rate, I still have a lot of my old photos and entries available on my blog at...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/

SO... on to what I've been doing. Well, if you clicked that link above, you are probably up to date.  ;) But for the LAF rundown...

Travelling for work, but finally painted a little. More half-orcs. I decided to mix a few of the (unaltered) Tre Manor orcs into the unit as larger "brutes." These were originally slated for conversion fodder for the Fomorians, but I think I will be getting Bones versions of them when the KS reward arrives. To be honest, it is a relief to be able to use them as-is. I think Manor's orcs are some of my favorite current minis -- or ever. Tragically they don't quite fit into my own theoretical campaign/gaming plans. But I am finding ways to make them fit. Too well sculpted not to use in some way or another!

So, as far as the new two "half"-orc recruits go, added here to the Black Tree core of the mercenaries...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LkFxsGOFp40/WWL4ZkHVEZI/AAAAAAAAFfk/Qx19mRT0WfAWBsE212ObnpLOD8JS4XM_ACLcBGAs/s1600/20170709_233113.jpg)


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cN495fgQ6P8/WWL4ZuYT7zI/AAAAAAAAFfg/C1W5H2xBK08n2X99i0bTdYlk2PbZYbXhACLcBGAs/s1600/20170709_233152.jpg)


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-we5QaStPi2o/WWL4ZvYi_KI/AAAAAAAAFfc/H5aeU8RE4dM9vPAnfVGXK0LGlA-IfcTEQCLcBGAs/s1600/20170709_232629.jpg)

I think they fit well! Larger than the average trooper, but not really out of scale. More like a believable diversity of troops. I think they're a good fit in stylistic terms as well! I'm hoping to do the same with a few smaller figures.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 10, 2017, 06:12:43 AM
Those look great!

The mix of sizes reminds me a bit of this John Blanche illustration (used in a White Dwarf article on orcs, if I recall correctly):

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5tbhsIlh91qhslato1_1280.jpg)

It's a good look!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 10, 2017, 06:36:52 AM
I think the Asgard orcs will find a home in my collection one way or another. I really like them, and i'm thinking about getting a full set and using them however they fit.

In looking at the Asgard range, have you considered the half-trolls? I've been basing them up to use as giants in 10mm (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=77384.msg1264621#msg1264621), and they fit perfectly onto 20 x 40mm bases (like your Reaper chaps). Viking Forge still produce them, along with the Asgard orcs.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 16, 2017, 02:58:44 PM
Yes! I want to break up the uniformity of the half-orcs, and especially my goblins! (More on the latter at a future date....)

I will look into those trolls when I'm ready for an order - and see if Viking Forge lists them. I think I'm going to try painting down a hitnof my lead pile a bit before placing new orders. (I realize that's borderline heresy in the miniatures community...  ;D )

A few more half-orcs done. Just five more left -- including the three command figures. Plus I need to do a banner (and maybe go back and paint designs on the shields.)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y0G7Kwh_qvY/WWr3AKrYc4I/AAAAAAAAFgQ/6WwmS0pgAd84fMIlAvwKtYv3Iz37BWnhACLcBGAs/s1600/20170716_010854.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 17, 2017, 05:12:29 AM
Done with (http://Rotghar's Headhunters) -- half-orc mercenaries -- other than adding a standard and possibly some insignia on some of the shields. So... I guess 98% done?


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q57cYBjwhhE/WWw1BA5bDqI/AAAAAAAAFhA/PgY8mpA-NY8Iaz0phBWU-TwXc3v4xdOzQCLcBGAs/s1600/horcsf01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on July 17, 2017, 07:53:01 AM
They look great. Black tree really has some gems hidden behind their crappy photos.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: beefcake on July 17, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Very nice. The big orc fits in nicely.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dem Bones, Dem Bones...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2017, 04:06:41 AM
...Dem Bones, dem bendy Bones...

 ;D


Speaking of...

I just posted a new blog entry that I'm not going to repeat here in its entirety. The gist is that I got my modest Bones 3 KS minis today, and couldn't wait to take some comparison pics with some of the other figures they will be used with in my collection/projects.

Full deal is here:

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/07/load-o-bones.html

But as a teaser, here's a pic of the my favorite from the bunch, the awesome horror that is.... GOREMAW!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ITrPzsADRik/WXAIPanrTtI/AAAAAAAAFiA/NdCPe54cu54SzH9vDph5ST1O_G5jaa8xwCLcBGAs/s1600/goremawcomp01.jpg)


Currently obsessed with the GOREMAW model. Can't wait to paint it. I wonder if I can put together some sort of scenario that's like a fantasy version of SJG's "Ogre" and base it around the unstoppable horror of.... GOREMAW!  ;D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dem Bones, Dem Bones...)
Post by: von Lucky on July 20, 2017, 05:08:37 AM
You're making noises when you play with it, aren't you?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dem Bones, Dem Bones...)
Post by: beefcake on July 20, 2017, 09:36:55 AM
Wow! I got that one in the Bones too. Should arrive soon for me. Can't wait to see it painted.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dem Bones, Dem Bones...)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on July 20, 2017, 09:47:18 AM
You're making noises when you play with it, aren't you?

That is what she said... ;D

Sorry i could not resist.

I quite like the big Bones stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Dem Bones, Dem Bones...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2017, 11:38:57 PM
You're making noises when you play with it, aren't you?


That is what she said... ;D

Sorry i could not resist.

I quite like the big Bones stuff.


That is also what she said.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orc Shaman)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 22, 2017, 07:36:22 PM
Picked up the figure I want to use for a half-orc shaman. Another Bob Olley sculpt for Reaper. The issue I've run into, though, is that he won't fit on a 20mm base and barely fits on a 25mm base. He's tentatively on a 40mm. Not sure how I will ultimately base him yet.

Still not certain on colors, either. Quite a busy figure.


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JpXEg26Nvq8/WXOXqiABh_I/AAAAAAAAFjA/T9yg40PMhuIIyRuQyIc470gQOL938U1cACLcBGAs/s1600/20170722_141025.jpg)

Well, I do have one paintng & basing idea...


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orc Shaman)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 22, 2017, 08:59:29 PM
Looks good! One thought on basing: could you do him on a 40 by 20? The figure looks wide but not deep (though that might just be the photo. If you added a familiar - a giant weasel or rat or something - under his raised hand, you might end up with a base that justified "counting for two" while not disrupting the rest of the unit overmuch.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orc Shaman)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 25, 2017, 05:05:27 AM
Looks good! One thought on basing: could you do him on a 40 by 20? The figure looks wide but not deep (though that might just be the photo. If you added a familiar - a giant weasel or rat or something - under his raised hand, you might end up with a base that justified "counting for two" while not disrupting the rest of the unit overmuch.

I thought about a few options like that. But given that I rarely game anymore, and still hope to keep my future gaming more relaxed, less rules obsessive, I just went with a big decorative base. I've got a second shaman figure on the way that may fit better on a 20x20 base if it really comes down to that sort of mm-counting at some point.  ;)



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-x1WBRblps0s/WXbBd9F2MOI/AAAAAAAAFkk/HysN9teQdOURvFjGYyBod4s1Ymi8Pd_8wCLcBGAs/s1600/horcsham01.jpg)

Freed, the half orc shaman. I've written the first draft of a bit of fluff/backstory, which may emerge at some point.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orc Shaman)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 25, 2017, 07:52:11 AM
I thought about a few options like that. But given that I rarely game anymore, and still hope to keep my future gaming more relaxed, less rules obsessive, I just went with a big decorative base.

Three cheers for relaxed and less rules-obsessive!

He looks great!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 30, 2017, 06:43:22 AM
Thanks!



Updates, of sorts....

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Cl8zx6N4mWM/WXk_gvSn1DI/AAAAAAAAFlE/Wmv9OAIe6OQYU-Fv_2K5N9rhrC2GHzn4gCLcBGAs/s1600/20170726_205606.jpg)

My next half-orc shaman... priestess or whatever. She's a little taller, and more civilized looking. MAybe the other "half" is elf"? Still don't mind a bit of diversity in the half-orcs, and it's really a beautifully sculpted figures. BEsides, if some of those other half-orcs would just stand up straight...  lol

I've been getting into the half-orc thing so much lately I'm thinking about picking up more from Black Tree. But I'd like some more variety too. It hit me that I'd love some half orc heads to put on various plastic kits -- Frostgrave, Perry, etc. to make some more near-human-ish minis. Since these heads don't -- as far as I know -- exist, I'm thinking about putting my own (very) modest sculpting & casting skills to the test.


For the moment, though, I have just speed-painted trial figures for two small units of scouts. Or should that be two units of small scouts? Whatevs.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vbM4cKvnHro/WXzNfa89E0I/AAAAAAAAFmA/IlFqrSZqIPghtJpdBCv8SQHzGAkhawACQCLcBGAs/s1600/20170729_135251.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: Reed on July 30, 2017, 09:43:58 AM
What about the ex-Wargames Factory orcs' heads?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: DeafNala on July 31, 2017, 12:03:49 PM
GOOD LOOKIN' MUSHROOMS! The minis are pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 04, 2017, 05:15:17 AM
What about the ex-Wargames Factory orcs' heads?

Not bad, but not sure they're readily available.





Eventually I will post a bit of backstory about these two units. I'm increasingly fond of creating a narrative behind the units I paint. These were painted with the idea of two rival units of scouts. One a group of bandits who appear suddenly, raid small settlements, then slip back into the woods. The other a group hunting them.

The B.F.G., lead by the Notorious G.O.B.
Mostly Westfalia steppe goblins, plus a couple of old plastic classics I recently found, lurlking in the background. (The latter don't really fit aesthetically and may end up being used elsewhere.)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pIXOIVt_fD8/WYPuBX1PM0I/AAAAAAAAFmk/pp7n4ThrHOISbQ1PPaPbv1CgS5oovCcCwCLcBGAs/s1600/gob-bfg01.jpg)



Hawk's Blue Forrest Rangers
Black Tree Design minis, one of two flavors of halflings they sell.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A_GcHeGPRNs/WYPuD540PuI/AAAAAAAAFmo/agN0MBk9josJzIrjrtnw_gNe_yrliUB4wCLcBGAs/s1600/hwksct01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: tomrommel1 on August 04, 2017, 06:33:18 AM
stunning additions
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2017, 08:18:12 PM


Thanks!


I've been wanting to get to work on the Westfalia halflings since I got them, but have been procrastinating (other than the crossbow unit) because of the bent spears & lances. So I finally tried hot & cold water (straight from the tap) to re-position one and it worked pretty well. Just straightened the goat knights lances and it was easier and quicker than expected. So... looks like hobbit's back on the menu boys!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8pFysQFyeQU/WYXjBST_xsI/AAAAAAAAFnw/SkJtWLPetU0tTiYrZFWi408E2vXPOoxowCLcBGAs/s1600/20170805_095236.jpg)





Pic's a little dark, but wanted to post it because they're an Oldhammer paradox for some - old, but blobby plastics! My friends & I never would have gotten nearly as deeply into WFB if it wasn't for the Fantasy Regiments and Skeleton Army/Horde boxes when we were young. The armies in our group and at the two area game stores also reflected this. Almost everyone played armies that could be bulked out with a couple units of plastics.

I recently got these two goblins and a few of each of the others in a box of stuff I won on eBay, and it's a fun bit of nostalgia.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mrd77f3vccI/WYXjTKzNrLI/AAAAAAAAFn0/dglEL6NFlRoRHANShoyy0Q7_CcOdkSm0ACLcBGAs/s1600/20170805_095218.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits, goblins, half-orcs...)
Post by: von Lucky on August 05, 2017, 11:05:29 PM
Indeed.

And nice to hear about the new chef ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Riders)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 13, 2017, 04:07:21 PM

Finished a rushed paint job on this unit of old Citadel wight/skeleton cavalry. They were a rare eBay win, and they were (are) in somewhat rough shape -- but the price was unexpectedly reasonable.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5mzzsDastpg/WY_D6He3amI/AAAAAAAAFpI/erZ3PaHPX8IY8ILZAxxclF1giD2CVGyDACLcBGAs/s1600/20170812_141049.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Riders)
Post by: killshot on August 13, 2017, 05:27:28 PM
That's a great looking unit!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Riders)
Post by: beefcake on August 13, 2017, 08:54:11 PM
Very nice. Love that rust you do.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marshy Stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 21, 2017, 02:59:16 AM


Thank you!!




I've been working on prepping both Hobbits and Fomorians/Fimir. Unthinkable, but I ran out of slotted cavalry bases -- so the goat riders are temporarily on hold until I can get some.

I've also made a marshy dead giant terrain piece, and finally based the giant snail (shown with & without rider.)


(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q-YKLqGJTs4/WZo5zochpyI/AAAAAAAAFrU/c2A3nYEvE9UYYVdCYFCFGmHVsi9MLSbwwCLcBGAs/s1600/20170820_211445.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XPXBgnzSpi8/WZo5zygam2I/AAAAAAAAFrc/iKysz5v0PJIS9-fA6lf04usLPJXAFT8dwCLcBGAs/s1600/20170820_211512.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5Pg5MUAPo_M/WZo5zuUfyiI/AAAAAAAAFrY/yFPWIwJx3XEquNiXVBhTmr3yxW_fcmKFgCLcBGAs/s1600/20170820_211524.jpg)



(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-scnG4f10rhE/WZkjWIogLrI/AAAAAAAAFqw/Yv1nGY4LoAkbYzS8820kyGiv70tidMKZwCLcBGAs/s1600/20170820_011747.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oNk8phZRE0U/WZkXKc7XZSI/AAAAAAAAFqc/i5jmshF8SowC2t_HdNMpw1u0huOAbrUZQCLcBGAs/s1600/20170819_234439.jpg)


(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nPHofLaKpBU/WY_D-EvXS1I/AAAAAAAAFpM/pKRZEPN38BIbiKFJn55dJ5ELvWBsVSPhACLcBGAs/s1600/20170812_141118.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marshy Stuff)
Post by: von Lucky on August 22, 2017, 09:28:00 AM
Lovely update.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marshy Stuff)
Post by: DeafNala on August 22, 2017, 08:55:22 PM
UBERCOOL STUFF! I LOVE the snail. VERY WELL DONE one & all!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marshy Stuff)
Post by: killshot on August 23, 2017, 12:35:06 AM
Love the terrain!  I'm looking forward to seeing the goat riders.  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marshy Stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 26, 2017, 05:50:05 PM
Thanks. Been busy, so not much done lately. Haven't even ordered bases for the goat knights yet. However...

XXL Fomorian converted & ready for paint. Shown next to the other recent "regular" sized conversions for comparison.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fD7GUHZWnCQ/WaGNogbB4XI/AAAAAAAAFss/E1v0sJJBedYQzRKowCviBFkfe24oQtGPgCLcBGAs/s1600/20170826_103206.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (More Fomorians/Fimir)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 05, 2017, 11:45:30 AM

Finished the first round of the new Bones conversions, plus the XXL Fomorian. I took Shadespyre's advice and drilled a hole down the latter's club and slipped a brass rod in, to keep it straight. Capped with some CA glue. Worked perfectly.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yWcHS821zwM/Wa4DRrK-EmI/AAAAAAAAFto/PSTy0def4rI0fhZX0l0sbHW3L9PEn-0pQCLcBGAs/s1600/20170904_203200.jpg)

I also rebased some more of the painted dire wolves I got a while ago. The only painting I did was a little touch-up drybrushing. I needed a few on single bases to work out for playing KoW. They are to stand in for moor hounds until I find more suitable models.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GCmqHycJ_KA/Wa4Dn0HZuII/AAAAAAAAFts/Aer2Dz4-154XSXAsVj_yl-geLQvxdS8tgCLcBGAs/s1600/20170903_103250.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (More Fomorians/Fimir)
Post by: Hobgoblin on September 05, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
They look terrific! I really like the ogre conversion - especially the implicit suggestion that these things can grow bigger and bigger with time and eating ...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (More Fomorians/Fimir)
Post by: DeafNala on September 05, 2017, 02:10:01 PM
The One Eyed Lads are GORGEOUS creations in their own way. Your brushwork, basing, &, especially, your choice of colors are OUTSTANDING. VERY WELL DONE as always!
Reaper makes a really cool Moor Hound, but only one pose.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Lord)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 10, 2017, 06:45:32 AM


(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0s9zcA93j0I/WbRr6A6_Q7I/AAAAAAAAFuo/3UFp5Y2xMrsJoN6uEf6TaXApP2anZ72-wCLcBGAs/s1600/wtlrdmtd01.jpg)


(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EnKUOLlKtZk/WbRr6MyLvwI/AAAAAAAAFus/ATaod27qus4C3xOv2kFiK433BvU-LRcFACLcBGAs/s1600/skeleknights02.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Lord)
Post by: beefcake on September 10, 2017, 08:32:17 AM
Love that with guy Lord. Great mini, great pj.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Lord)
Post by: boneio on September 11, 2017, 01:10:43 PM
Those wights and the wight lord - easily amongst my favourite models. Lovely job.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wight Lord)
Post by: LordOdo on September 11, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
That Wight Lord is awesome! Really full of character, thanks to both a great sculpt and your paint job!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits on Deck)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 15, 2017, 04:35:07 AM
Thanks!



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_mQA-6tWKVQ/Wbnad46jJGI/AAAAAAAAFwc/iinAkrJcUYozm5mfketUzBZZrNRpOvIuQCLcBGAs/s1600/jtc-bc00.jpg)

Hit another snag with the hobbit goat knights. I was going to order some slotted bases, but noticed that since they have a single tab, they would end up being shifted to one side or the other of a standard two-slot base. I need to find bases with a single slot down the center -- or find some other way to base them.

So while I sort that out, I prepped some other hobbits... The Boar Cleavers. Taking their name for from their brave stand against mounted orc raiders on the Jackrabbit Trading Company's first caravan mission, the Boar Cleavers are the most elite regiment in the company -- nearly as effective as the average human unit!

More Westfalia miniatures, plus a regimental mascot (from a pack of dogs from Mega Miniatures?) to round the numbers out to 15 for the moment. (I'd like to fill this unit out to 20 strong, if I can get my hands on more hobbit halberdiers.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 18, 2017, 01:02:05 AM

Trial painting on first two minis for the Boar Cleavers unit.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GoulAXi6BEU/Wb78_nIIwaI/AAAAAAAAFww/hJpO2fi368Y44OuW_2hXFWnc75psCZKCgCLcBGAs/s1600/20170917_183941.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits)
Post by: beefcake on September 18, 2017, 04:25:50 AM
Very nice looking hobbits.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 25, 2017, 04:55:12 AM


Had to head out of town for a most of the week on short notice. Had a miserable time in Texas. Got home and had a busy weekend. But I did rush a few minis through...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ou80H_nM44M/WchuU1G8ylI/AAAAAAAAFxY/zf_21WsoeUQ7cY21BoeGkm5UNsv15nDzgCLcBGAs/s1600/20170924_214550.jpg)

In the center is the canine mascot for the Boar Cleavers (first two figures from last week are flanking him/her -- I think I need to come up with a name!)

On the ends are a couple of test figures for an upcoming unit (or two) of human halberdiers.

There will be even more humans to come, for the Jackrabbit Trading Company! Including archers. I've got this notion that the humans stuck with archery, while the hobbits, recognizing the limits of their pull strength and stature, switched to crossbows. (In case you're wondering about the odd reversal of fantasy stereotypes.)

When hobbits settled in the Little Country, there were already humans living there. The newcomers formed their own communities, as well as joining existing communities of the "tall folk." For the most part, the humans of the region found that they had more in common with the "little folk" than they had with their nominal governors bustling Marienburg, nor their neighbors in Bretonnia & the Empire, and the region has benefited.

When Nob Scrobbleton formed his Jackrabbit Trading Company, he recruited across the region. The Company is comprised of almost as many humans as hobbits (and even a handful of dwarfs!)

I believe the figure to the left is from a a Grenadier "Fighting Men" pack (now sold by Mirliton), and the gent on the right is from Front Rank. As previously mentioned, the hobbits are from Westfalia, and the dog has been confirmed as a (former) Mega Mini figure, now sold by Turnkey Miniatures.

Whoops! I just realized I forgot to go back and highlight the human's halberd heads! Guess I will go do that momentarily...

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits)
Post by: Metternich on September 30, 2017, 07:18:54 PM
I like how you mixed humans and hobbits in the same unit.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 04, 2017, 01:46:35 AM
I was just showing them side by side for comparison. Although I mix races in units in my Marienburg army, these will most likely end up in separate units within the same army.

Speaking of which...

Boar Cleavers are finished. At least the ones I have. I'd really like to bulk the unit out to something more like 20-25!


(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MX1Sh3g_74M/WdQY1uDbgEI/AAAAAAAAFzg/MEPh9IB5FB828AlZbhjtAFBmu2FhitclgCLcBGAs/s1600/boarcleavers01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits)
Post by: Dr DeAth on October 05, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
That purple and white colour scheme works really well, nice paint job.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 07, 2017, 07:46:26 PM
Thanks!


I've still had some unfinished Nightmare Legion minis hanging around. I'm leaning towards playing Undead for my first KoW tournament, in Nov., so thought I would (very!) quickly finish painting them. I will have to pull out the ones that were previously paited, but I'm hoping I can field a horde. If not, I would like to pick up a few more. For the moment, though, I will just infill up to 40 strong with other skeletons.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3cv6CT3WKv0/WdkfKOO1DXI/AAAAAAAAF1A/o8Nn4dIzG148M5pjFjAdnfZRWNIlCq0VwCLcBGAs/s1600/20171007_141505.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 14, 2017, 06:07:04 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2wlLTPThvwQ/WeGNwXgzaGI/AAAAAAAAF24/h-x2LyXKWmUzDhW-MIB4jMerLJcLriK7wCLcBGAs/s1600/soae01.jpg)

Continuing to work on some odds & ends. Mostly single figures to fill in gaps or finish off batches of figures. Finished the orc skeleton for my non-human skeletons, an old (mid?) school wight, and an old RP mini that will also be going in with the wights.

Also... that's technically my first orc done for Orctober. ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 15, 2017, 06:03:37 PM

"Orcs (Three Different Ones)" My tiny Orctober project. Old, Midddle, and New. Green, Sallow, and Skeletal.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7bmdkw4rBTY/WeOTZwQ5PLI/AAAAAAAAF3c/RLa3GmzlU7opa-_sjTjA_1lLxvBKUj6KACLcBGAs/s1600/20171015_114732.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2017, 02:36:19 AM
I'm clearing out some of the unpainted odds & ends in my undead collection. Individuals & small groups that were left out from previous painting binges.

Pics below, if you want to read the wordy bits, you'll have to go to my blog: http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/10/more-skeletal-odds-ends.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ci6Tw6zz8M8/WeQJ-XCCxSI/AAAAAAAAF38/c7B0AtxxmJ8eLgeUZuZq8H_l4YmSGEYngCLcBGAs/s1600/20171015_200307.jpg)


(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jWBj-83FaWE/WeQK7yoUmKI/AAAAAAAAF4A/8aFhv4mtER8103xdLt5d6JPTPYFo7nfGwCLcBGAs/s1600/20171015_200349.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: Grimmnar on October 16, 2017, 03:37:39 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ci6Tw6zz8M8/WeQJ-XCCxSI/AAAAAAAAF38/c7B0AtxxmJ8eLgeUZuZq8H_l4YmSGEYngCLcBGAs/s1600/20171015_200307.jpg)
Really liking these guys a lot. Love the Bane Knights for Warmachine but the missing shoulder pads are growing on me. Wonder how much better they would look w/o the oversized axe heads.
Also loving the other releases in this thread to boot.
But the rust effect, what it your process/recipe?
Keep em coming.

Grimm
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: Daniel36 on October 17, 2017, 10:25:06 AM
That is some pretty rust! Especially on that swordsguy! Excellent work!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 18, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Thanks!



Two big skeletons from the last Reaper Bones KS. I didn't do as well as I would have liked on the minotaur, but I had already decided that I wanted to get the metal version as I was cleaning up the mold lines. So he will be getting replaced at some point. Just a really nice figure. Both are.


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6XBMK_GH4UA/WebMkU3HuqI/AAAAAAAAF4w/4MYrxYpoyZY2AEpqck765ezBi4BPx7d0gCLcBGAs/s1600/20171017_232231.jpg)


For the moment, they will be joining the ogres, so I can run a "counts as" KoW horde of undead trolls.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HCXx6jDfUBI/WebNL0_k4VI/AAAAAAAAF44/bMDXHf-uPOIAWJMUXI5BoF_-bLBXa__7wCLcBGAs/s1600/20171017_232429.jpg)

Indecisive about what to paint next...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: ketoeloeh on October 20, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
A very cool thread you have here. Great brushwork on an inspired collection of miniatures (love the Fimir!).

I really fell in love with the canine mascotte, but couldn't find him when Googling for mega miniatures. Could you point me in it's direction please?
I'd like to adopt one as well :).

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 22, 2017, 05:55:30 AM
If I understand correctly, Megaminis sold off most of their molds & casting rights.

I thought the dogs (Megaminis had a pack with several breeds) were at Turnkey Miniatures, but now that I went to look up the link, I only see a couple of the dogs.

http://www.turnkeyminiatures.com/

So... I'm not sure where to find them anymore.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2017, 01:35:57 AM
I should be playing KoW in a couple weeks. This is what I'm thinking of taking, nothing but bones. I needed to start sorting out figures anyway, and thought it was a good way to pass the time while waiting for trick-or-treaters who never showed up. (On the plus side, there's a full bowl of candy left for me!) I still have to finish 13 more Nightmare Legion to finish the horde. If I don't get them done in time, I will swap that unit out for some other skeletons.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bc1a5Qqp2Js/WfkONVxS2_I/AAAAAAAAGAI/10yrT2I0wCIkuhogtDdvsfAjR5PRxtyZQCLcBGAs/s1600/kow2kwip02.jpg)

Halloween craftiness below. I've been sick the past few days, but enjoyed a little bit of the holiday spirit. Made the mask but didn't really wear it other than for a quick photo.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AhPkYsJ_6W8/WfkQ9XEdsSI/AAAAAAAAGAU/GVHLdS8yYzUY1zT6v50Ah5z7mgpDO8ObgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG953033.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UUG37ag2fyA/WfkQ9eCqTBI/AAAAAAAAGAY/Fvs968s2FMUGTzsrduoKTa8AFfK_c4PJgCLcBGAs/s1600/hween17a.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7GftF5T_u0g/WfkQ9Wb9QKI/AAAAAAAAGAc/xc8BrlCizzka67MIot_e_42x2lSrBGKzACLcBGAs/s1600/rabbit17.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: majorsmith on November 01, 2017, 03:00:37 PM
Great mask!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: von Lucky on November 01, 2017, 07:38:41 PM
Agree, and the army is looking spooky too; those dusty shields work with the bone.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: Corso on November 02, 2017, 06:37:25 AM
Great miniatures there :-*

The mounted wight lord is iconic
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: beefcake on November 02, 2017, 07:03:35 AM
Those are great. I like how they integrate so well with each other.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: boneio on November 02, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
That's a truly lovely army, and very much like that's all bones. Hoards of skeletons advancing implacably, that's what the undead are about.

Quote
(On the plus side, there's a full bowl of candy left for me!)
We're rotting our teeth away at my workplace thanks to a couple of people bringing in their sweets stash for the same reason - no takers on the day itself!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: robh on November 02, 2017, 08:53:54 PM
That is a great looking Undead army. Limited colour scheme works really well.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Orctober + Skeletal Odds & Ends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 04, 2017, 03:24:56 AM
Thank you, all.

I've got about twice as many skeletal minis painted up, and a few more of those rank & file hordes still left to paint as well. I'd really like to host some big games eventually.

I had started with the idea of a two part undead army -- mostly skeletal "ancient dead" and a smaller contingent of the "undeadish" fleshy thralls. But I've really been leaning more towards the idea of sticking with the ancient, skeletal dead. Trying to add variety with the skeletal ogres, giants, etc. Still on the hunt for more skeletal monsters, unarmoured cavalry, and I've been eyeing a few options for hounds/beasts.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Actual Games Played!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 13, 2017, 07:09:53 PM


I painted some more skeletons...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EFgzNMgAFg4/WgfGl0eoxaI/AAAAAAAAGCQ/r_-K30s4JSc840JAlrBfl3STbws0uePzACLcBGAs/s1600/20171111_103425.jpg)

...so that I could field an army...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ge4yjuvfeio/WgfG1e95BEI/AAAAAAAAGCU/g3x-pzugQvcEzdRf-ZNgr600vvdxuZc0QCLcBGAs/s1600/20171111_183542.jpg)


...and play some games! (Kings of War)...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/11/slaughter-fest-2017-kow-part-2.html

(The previous few blog entries lead up to the event and some other stuff if anyone's interested.)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Actual Games Played!)
Post by: von Lucky on November 13, 2017, 08:59:04 PM
W00t!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Actual Games Played!)
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on November 14, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
Congrats for an army of very nicely painted undead!

Also thanks for documenting those other armies in your blog. Some stunning pieces there. Nice blog overall.  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Actual Games Played!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 19, 2017, 06:46:40 AM
 :-D Thanks.



My eyes are still recovering (I hope) so I am prepping more skeletons for Deadcember...

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Actual Games Played!)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on November 19, 2017, 10:04:35 AM
That skellie army is a darn joy to behold. The mask is bizarr to no end.  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 28, 2017, 06:11:10 PM
Haha, thanks.



My holiday weekend painting binge...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n3E_XGBQRvM/WhtR69BHvvI/AAAAAAAAGMc/eawhVuh7-WI5hguL12o_r7BcSkhoypIZQCLcBGAs/s1600/20171125_132257_20171125211402997.jpg)


And some WIP skeletons, about 80% done so far.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: Funghy-Fipps on November 28, 2017, 07:09:31 PM
Fantastic new additions, but esp. digging the Citadel barrow wight with the brazier!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: majorsmith on November 29, 2017, 10:39:23 AM
Ditto about the barrow wight and brazier  super cool
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 03, 2017, 07:22:36 PM

Thanks. Those old barrow wights are quirky but fun figures. I'd like to get the others now.



Finished the skeletons. I started them early, in November, but completed in Deadcember. Close enough for me. Mostly old Citadel, a few Black Tree Design mixed in.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3i9q-Rp7pzQ/WiRLze_GqvI/AAAAAAAAGNk/T6m7dJP9lDQRt67cfweWjs8cP36GeSZcQCLcBGAs/s1600/20171203_105438.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: von Lucky on December 04, 2017, 10:29:40 AM
Those faded grey shields work so well with the earthy tones of the skeletons (and the fresh green of the bases), lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: Hobgoblin on December 04, 2017, 10:35:34 AM
Very nice - and I love the old Barbell-wight (what on earth did the Perrys think they were doing with that one?  ;)). Great work on him, especially.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: boneio on December 04, 2017, 12:37:39 PM
Those armoured skeletons are some of my favourites and you've done a great job on them as usual!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2017, 04:54:33 AM
Thank you!

Very nice - and I love the old Barbell-wight (what on earth did the Perrys think they were doing with that one?  ;)). Great work on him, especially.

I'm oddly fond of that figure. I'd even like to get the others!  o_o


Those armoured skeletons are some of my favourites and you've done a great job on them as usual!

I'm very fond of the sculpts too!



Done with the latest batch of the second gen. Citadel skeletons. I ended up putting two on individual bases, since I had some trouble fitting 4 on every 40mm base. So I end up with more "footprint" than planned, the regiments will still look full, and I have a start on my "singles." So it's a win/win/win.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oUUzhdAi5LI/WjX1R6cqALI/AAAAAAAAGQY/drX0zKyPUQMULif8fP7p9RPKWLnjVE_6ACLcBGAs/s1600/20171216_230215.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: boneio on December 17, 2017, 05:02:29 PM
And those are the 'best' plastic skeletons imo..though the generation before them are a close run.

Very good as usual!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 18, 2017, 03:01:44 AM
And those are the 'best' plastic skeletons imo..though the generation before them are a close run.

Very good as usual!

Thank you. I think if these were scaled down, similar to their predecessors, they'd be in my list of favorite minis. I still like them quite a bit, though!



Mounted necromancers are hard to come by. Even then, I want something less human, more undead. Like a "lesser liche" or some other alternate. Basically just an undead thing, mounted on an undead riding thing, who summons & controls the other undead things. So here's the first that I've been able to come up with...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VnSGVQD_WcE/WjcpjexPFJI/AAAAAAAAGRg/3Je9gaBpWiMWGSgwfXYrrpnNAw28YCItwCLcBGAs/s1600/mtdcltwrth600.jpg)

Mounted wraith from Celtos.

My last planned Deadcember project is some more non-human skeletons to bump a smaller unit up to a larger horde, but for whatever reason I'm just not feeling it right now. In fact, I'm not really in the mood to paint up much of the undead I already have. I think the major factor in play is that I don't really feel like cleaning & assembling a bunch of minis. Everything requires a bunch of pre-painting work, and I'm just not in the mood. I'm sort of wishing I had a big model to work on, or something(s) already prepped and ready to paint. Or a pile or rank & file already prepped. I'm completely in painting mode!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRJfIPiJGY (Getting into the holiday spirit...)

Only half way through Deadcember, though. Even though I'm prep-impaired, I'm still motivated to get a big heaping pile of undead done by the end of the month, so maybe I just need a day or two to relax & think about what to tackle next.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: fred on December 18, 2017, 11:14:31 AM
That works!!

Love the rust / patina / aging on the armour

Somehow the black looks bright and crisp against the other colours.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: boneio on December 18, 2017, 06:41:09 PM
I think the major factor in play is that I don't really feel like cleaning & assembling a bunch of minis.

I'm the opposite, I'm always happy to clean-up, assemble, etc but painting requires motivation...probably it's that painting requires my whole attention for a while whereas I can be removing mould lines in between other tasks i.e. queuing for a game of Overwatch.

The mounted liche works I think. Have you considered painting a necromancer with deadish skin tones? I sympathise, I find most necromancers to be too alive and most liches to be too dead - where are the models of the necromancers sunk deep into their arts, existing in neither life nor (un)death?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: thenamelessdead on December 18, 2017, 09:08:32 PM
Always a treat to see undead nags.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on December 19, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
That's a very cool scheme for undead; simple and effective and gives a good contrast without making them gaudily colourful. I dig it. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 23, 2017, 05:46:56 AM
Thank you!


The mounted liche works I think. Have you considered painting a necromancer with deadish skin tones? I sympathise, I find most necromancers to be too alive and most liches to be too dead - where are the models of the necromancers sunk deep into their arts, existing in neither life nor (un)death?

I have two distinct branches to my Army of the Dead project. One I refer to as the "animated dead," which are mostly skeletons, with some liches, wraiths, etc. as the summoners & controllers. The other are the "undeadish," which are sort of like corrupted living. Not quite mindless zombies, but have traded (willingly or unwillingly) their mortality & freedom for magically bound servitude. Those are the pale, grey, fleshy humans & beasts. The "leaders" of that faction include more human/living type necromancers, corrupted knights & generals, etc. I've been showing a lot more attention to the former faction for quite some time now. At some point I will make it back around to the undeadish.



My latest diversion is still undead, but in yet another direction....

Combining my fondness for the undead, and skeletal undead in particular, with the desire to create a larger pool of "regiments of renown" style mercenaries, I started working a few initial figures as a sort-of proof of concept...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vNNkwsFKWPY/Wj2EjfHQ1OI/AAAAAAAAGTM/gfqgepWT5zI9vlrfhQZEIjhzqJUvunOsACLcBGAs/s1600/modeath01.jpg)

More about concept, background, bad jokes at... http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/12/mercenary-undead.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: von Lucky on December 23, 2017, 12:24:13 PM
Merciful mecenaries, enough with the puns.

I like the colour choice - I was thinking burnt skeletons before I read the background.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: boneio on December 23, 2017, 12:57:59 PM
Ah that explains the thread title!

Love the idea of mercenary undead. Makes a lot of sense that such beings would sell their services
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 23, 2017, 04:15:37 PM
I figure the necromancer wouldn't really have much to lose. Even if his troops get slaughtered, he's just going to raise more. Logistics are simpler... no paymaster, no quartermaster to worry about keeping the troops fed, etc.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 24, 2017, 05:57:35 PM
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dqIGsddfcd4/Wj_p2ePFpGI/AAAAAAAAGTg/j5o5dtg4bK8PWU-WrVtnSp1m-HiPGKxigCLcBGAs/s1600/20171224_110559.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: boneio on December 24, 2017, 09:16:27 PM
Is that an undead owlbear?!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 24, 2017, 10:16:11 PM
Is that an undead owlbear?!

 :D

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 24, 2017, 10:57:41 PM

'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the tower
Mo' was reciting incantations of power;
The corpses were waiting, at the end of the stair,
In hopes that Dellamorte soon would be there...


(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-asXXv8vF28c/WkAuov9oeyI/AAAAAAAAGUU/0t79xZOSlWYj0cOJ9Sewp1QxO29yyS0TgCLcBGAs/s1600/modeath02.jpg)

Merry Christmas!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: killshot on December 25, 2017, 11:21:52 AM
Really like those black skeletons! 
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: von Lucky on December 25, 2017, 11:22:36 AM
They look sinister and cartoonish (in a good way - like the 1963 Jason and the Argonauts ones).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 30, 2017, 06:55:22 PM
Thanks!

One last mini for Deadcember...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0c8h5IZc5SQ/Wkff4Frk7DI/AAAAAAAAGYw/Uxrl4OEFuZY2I3nBv0GVisvf5LBouHSZQCLcBGAs/s1600/smdrg01.jpg)

Skeletal dragon from Reaper. Small -- that's a 50mm square base.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: WallyTWest on December 31, 2017, 03:14:28 PM
That mounted wraith is really awesome... also love the black skelies

Not all heroes wear capes 023- glad to see you're still using Mississippi Mud as the base color (I am too)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 01, 2018, 05:24:35 PM
Thank you! Glad to see you're still around. Was just thinking about you last week.


My usual year end blog post:

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/01/goodbye-2017.html

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: von Lucky on January 02, 2018, 09:45:44 AM
They are little popped, deformed skulls if you think about it...

I found the earlier blog post on the Meat Hating Robot Pirates, but what are they? Apologies if I missed the explanation.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 03, 2018, 02:05:12 AM
They are little popped, deformed skulls if you think about it...

I found the earlier blog post on the Meat Hating Robot Pirates, but what are they? Apologies if I missed the explanation.


They're a concept for a RT -- or any sci-fi, really -- warband. A diverse group of robots, bound together by their various issues/hatreds of humans (or other meat based sentients), who have formed a pirate gang. Going to start small, work up. Looking at a variety of styles, but with a bit more of a rough & retro look to them.

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Post by: majorsmith on January 03, 2018, 11:00:06 AM
I really like the black skeletons! It shouldn't work, but does!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: Comsquare on January 03, 2018, 11:08:05 AM
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dqIGsddfcd4/Wj_p2ePFpGI/AAAAAAAAGTg/j5o5dtg4bK8PWU-WrVtnSp1m-HiPGKxigCLcBGAs/s1600/20171224_110559.jpg)

Nice  :D

Is he a conversion?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...aaaand more undead)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 05, 2018, 06:56:31 AM
Thanks.

It's a repaint of a pre-painted plastic D&D/Pathfinder miniature.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 06, 2018, 11:05:05 PM
I mentioned before that I had some plans for the first few months of 2018. Here's what January's looking like...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VJE5qDTJXjM/WlElKZ-v0DI/AAAAAAAAGbY/2LWlKXMgHiQSrKvtvfrf6j3x-__KubMcACLcBGAs/s1600/2018-01-todo01.jpg)

I've previously shared some pics of high elves I've painted as an ongoing, long term commission for a local gaming friend. I'll be starting off the year with some interesting additions to that army. As much as I'm a lover of rank & file mass battles, I do still love cool fantasy models. That's part of what sets fantasy gaming apart from historicals, after all. So this will be a fun diversion from all the undead that I've been working on.

I'm counting on these taking most of January to work on. There's a lot of fiddly little details that will be a difficult to paint. But I'm going to squeeze in a few of my own models as well. Especially since I have to wait at least a couple days for the weather to cooperate for priming. The current plan is some more odds & ends, such as...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oiY8FJNmrSg/WlErgH22vqI/AAAAAAAAGbs/VeF9uo6TSfEIFuv6-qEPunx1yu4tyxqoACLcBGAs/s1600/2018-01-todo02.jpg)

Finally) finishing two mounted mages for the Marienburgers/mercenaries, and a second mounted undead-necro-whatever.

The plan for the latter is to sculpt a hunched figure of tattered robes riding that horse. I've got the lower half of a skeletal rider on there for a guide. Maybe I will leave the feet showing out the bottom. Maybe not. Not really sure how to go about it yet.

As for the former two, I need to decide on a color scheme. That's what's largely responsible for holding up the progress for the past few... years.


On that topic, I was looking for inspiration on the internets and stumbled across this: http://beardbunker.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/battle-wizards-now-with-ovaries.html

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4KAgEK9c6l0/ULJfXjbnudI/AAAAAAAAAcA/Nns4pFmizSs/s1600/Le+comparison.jpg)

What an awesome conversion, and great painting as well! Not relevant to what I was looking for, but I had to share. Click the link to check out the whole process and more photos.

Does this happen to belong to someone here? (If so, I must have missed it in the forum.)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: von Lucky on January 07, 2018, 12:02:39 AM
All looks promising.

For the mounted mages, I'd suggest something away from their usually colour schemes for those models (red, black and yellow/orange). Maybe yellow/green for the female? Not sure for the male.
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Post by: commissarmoody on January 09, 2018, 10:57:16 AM
WOW! She looks better then the source model.
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Post by: killshot on January 10, 2018, 11:13:38 PM
Can’t wait to see those HE models!  The DE is fantastic!!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2018, 12:55:12 AM


Just to make sure it's clear -- the conversion isn't mine. I found it on the web, was impressed and wanted to share.  ;)

As far as my mounted mage, I went back to one of my old Mordheim warband color schemes, with a bit of inspiration from the above model as well. Tried to get a subtle pattern on the caparison, similar to a standard I did on a Repanse model years ago. Not sure it worked as well this time.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aPYaor-_W5A/WlasESAxVCI/AAAAAAAAGdY/2QDTj2iodpo6itof2VbLyqMGx353HYHbwCLcBGAs/s1600/mtdmg01.jpg)


A peek at how I plan things out with thumbnail sketches before painting the model when I'm not sure how I want to proceed...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ow6DXLBrQtM/WlasWByz3eI/AAAAAAAAGdc/U8S_S-PbTJEQBAKA3vVpzJIZbUfxZ3eaQCLcBGAs/s1600/tnail.jpg)
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Post by: beefcake on January 11, 2018, 01:50:45 AM
Looks nice.
That red is great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: von Lucky on January 11, 2018, 07:24:59 AM
They've come out fine.
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Post by: Bloggard on January 11, 2018, 05:32:06 PM
love the free-hand pattern on the horse's barding thingy.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 29, 2018, 12:49:04 AM


A rushed attempt at filling in my need for a second mounted necromancer. About 30 min. of sculpting work on top of an old plastic Citadel skelehorse, and probably no more than another 30 min. painting. Turned out OK. Not professional looking or anything, but it's my own and has an oldschool sort of charm (i.e. not up to modern standards.) Progress shots and a final photo on my blog. http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/01/second-mounted-necro.html

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5eLiOvSexHU/Wm5lsbzLbKI/AAAAAAAAGmw/Ot2Lifzo3uEpzdhHrYxOWFdq1Ug5tZoLgCLcBGAs/s1600/necr0201.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: von Lucky on January 31, 2018, 11:55:56 AM
I think he's come out pretty good.
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Post by: Little Odo on January 31, 2018, 08:21:27 PM
Agreed. A nice attempt at a mounted wraith.
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Post by: MagpieJono on January 31, 2018, 09:40:22 PM
He looks great. Certainly a lot better than I could do.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 01, 2018, 03:33:35 AM
Thanks. Given the limits of my experience and time put into it, I'm happy enough with how it turned out.

Now I want to try some more sculpting, take more time, and improve. I have a bunch of ideas that I've wanted to do.  ;D

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2018, 05:28:51 AM
Two more Krakon Games skeletal ogres to join the previous one.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_d03g5rH9cY/WnTyc8NpI_I/AAAAAAAAGog/1OeENIqP0hsxQDl4v9gnnE8r_qAvA3x9ACLcBGAs/s1600/2krogers01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: Metternich on February 04, 2018, 12:29:59 AM
Nice brocade effect on the horse trappings of your mounted magic user, and a very effective kitbash/sculpt of the mounted necromancer.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Marienburgers & HE up next)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 04, 2018, 09:34:31 PM
Thank you!



Maurice Dellamorte has been raising more troops...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xMflVZ728Rk/Wndf3FyflLI/AAAAAAAAGpc/LR3dGycHgZIbCtv6q5BhwDXiUGp7so22ACLcBGAs/s1600/modeath03.jpg)
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Post by: Hobgoblin on February 04, 2018, 09:49:11 PM
Great stuff! There's something very effective about the pallid necromancer surrounded by his shadowy troops. Whether or not the bones are fire-blackened, it gives a real contrast between the living and the shades of the dead.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 11, 2018, 12:39:37 AM
Thanks! I was after something a bit different.


On the table...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iJalZD32OmY/Wn-KXvD8RkI/AAAAAAAAGsU/KG9Pw2QIoY4ei4cj5LKvv42TmoTJv10GwCLcBGAs/s1600/20180210_180518.jpg)

...the heavy hitters of the Jackrabbit Trading Company, and some more of their goods. The chests and kegs are from WizKids. In spite of the "HD" and "Deep Cuts" labeling on the packaging, the detail is a bit shallow and soft. But the price was good, and I think they will look OK when painted up. I think I also need to go back and buy the adventurers camp (https://wizkids.com/nolzurs-adventurers-camp/) ( https://wizkids.com/nolzurs-adventurers-camp/ ) for use with the JTC.

I recently started to organize some of my ideas for mercenary centered games/campaigns. Still a lot of work to do. Some of it is already in collections of notes, or in my head. I figured it was time to organize it: Of Mercenaries, Fighting & Gold (OMFG) (https://omfghammer.blogspot.com/) ( https://omfghammer.blogspot.com/ )


Daydreaming about solo gaming again. Measured up my basement and I don't think I can fit my table in. Further daydreaming about building some walls inside our (detached, un-insulated, unconditioned) garage to create a game "room." Unlikely. Getting the no-gaming-blues again.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on February 11, 2018, 02:42:07 AM
I just love that black Skellie regiment.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on February 11, 2018, 07:12:58 AM
So many little knights!  :)

Those WizKids accessories look good. I recently saw some minis from their range. Quite detailed. But what material are rhey made of - some kind of resin, or the Bones type plastic?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 12, 2018, 04:23:33 AM
Not sure exactly what the material is. The chests & kegs are pretty blocky, and they're pre-primef. Lightweight. Detail is a bit shallow, in spite of the "HD" and "Deep Cuts" labels on the packaging. But I think they will paint up ok, and the price was reasonable.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: majorsmith on February 12, 2018, 03:41:15 PM
Those blackened skellies look bloody good! Did you dry brush etc?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 16, 2018, 02:51:48 AM
Thanks. Not exactly drybrushing. Base coat of very dark grey, then a black wash, followed by dark grey highlights done with a technique I understand as being called "overbrushing" which is sort of like drybrushing, but with a wet brush (or thinner paint, or however you'd like to consider it.)


Not much time for painting the past week or so, but did paint up a test mini from the unit of Westfalia goat knights.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C_Ro3e-vCsI/WoYfXX2ncII/AAAAAAAAGtE/d_oDAoRXa_0B7_66hOb-juBRu0cXbqrfwCEwYBhgL/s1600/wfgkest01.jpg)

Looking forward to getting some time to work on the rest of them!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2018, 02:25:56 AM
Prepped some Drew Williams trolls...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9rKODcn3tYo/WozSU6jl8DI/AAAAAAAAGu4/UYVBVUhJITELl5dUJMA42Q8VNf9klRLugCLcBGAs/s1600/20180220_204656.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gbuiVcfkBp4/WozSXQQrgvI/AAAAAAAAGu8/Tn1cePdUcDgXLQ50esDGawGiPmu7Gm81QCLcBGAs/s1600/20180220_204755.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 25, 2018, 07:33:40 AM
Halfway done with the halflings...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UZdYaWxqw_k/WpI6O8Ep-bI/AAAAAAAAGv8/Wcgr0ivoWJcYr01k7h0M0CwjvkOZoyliwCLcBGAs/s1600/wfgkest02.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: von Lucky on February 25, 2018, 08:30:29 AM
Looking goo - nice choice on that purple.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2018, 03:01:50 AM
Thank's. That's part of the Jackrabbit Trading Company's nouveau riche livery, Very Expensive Purple.  ;)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on March 01, 2018, 02:33:24 PM
Excellent job on the goats! Is that GW metal?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (...up next...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 02, 2018, 03:30:51 AM
I don't remember. Might be Vallejo Game Color silver, but I recently bought Army Painter shining silver to try, and I've been switching between them. In either case, it was followed by a wash of GW Nuln oil. I do have GW runefang steel, too, but I don't think that's what I used this time.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 06, 2018, 05:00:04 AM

Progress on painting bog trolls for the Month of Marsh...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4Uryp6bevnY/Wp4cTZqi9JI/AAAAAAAAGy0/2Q39agz8Qm0BfZrpRw7n0ZpGItDksGyzQCLcBGAs/s1600/dwtrolls03.jpg)

There's a KoW tournament on St. Patrick's Day. Although it's premature, I'm tempted to try scraping together a force of everyone's favorite one eyed swamp bastards (plus guests) as a sort of themed army...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 06, 2018, 06:24:25 AM
ooh those are cool. I must admit when you posted pictures of those trolls, primed further up, I wasn't to impressed with the minis but with a nice paint job they look much better than my first impression.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: von Lucky on March 06, 2018, 10:18:15 AM
Love the noses, and the thought of a St Patrick's Day themed army.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2018, 03:32:59 AM
Thanks!


More progress. 5 of 6 are done...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EKZBjM5FF1I/WqNRUBHVMUI/AAAAAAAAGzc/WnHP3yXrdGcE_4vvXgjWGbJjLSkrl7dnwCLcBGAs/s1600/dwtrolls04.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: beefcake on March 10, 2018, 06:27:46 AM
Nice crew here.
I really love the way you do the boils. I'll be copying that some time I think if you don't mind :) Any special way you do it?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on March 10, 2018, 08:03:35 AM
The pustules are very well done.  Is that Keith Richards on the far right? lol
Nice job.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2018, 03:23:44 PM
Thanks!

Is that Keith Richards on the far right? lol

Haha!


I really love the way you do the boils. I'll be copying that some time I think if you don't mind :) Any special way you do it?

I paint the base flesh color, then the wash/washes for the flesh, and some highlighting. After that I add a wash or two on & around the boils. As with the flesh washes, I change this up from figure to figure, but a lot of red, sometimes some purple or a warm brown (like sepia, etc.) Then back with some highlighting using thinned out flesh color, in a couple of layers. I try to keep that a little trasnparent, so I'm highlighting but the color of the wash shows through a bit. At the end I add a "hard" highlight spot of opaque flesh, usually with a bit of white mixed in to lighten that up.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 11, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Finished all six now.

I partially drew inspiration from the art of John Bauer (http://artpassions.net/bauer/bauer.html) but with a little more color variation. I still wanted an oldschool miniatures look to compliment the figures.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fJW_GrEowSA/WqSkRaNfL5I/AAAAAAAAG0k/8BHaM8If0sQtsrUlvgwBUkHFbtGpNNSNwCLcBGAs/s1600/dwtrolls05a.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tHh67GNCcPE/WqSkRaLNxDI/AAAAAAAAG0o/vp0fgyAcfHYiauYXcYGPJJp_btj2jGJ3wCLcBGAs/s1600/dwtrolls05b.jpg)


I also wrapped up work on some flying high elf bird boats for a friend...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dMjw3G33O64/WqSnanMYK1I/AAAAAAAAG1A/N-0SggHvBwcvjg3wQWVB-_nWwQiB9Q61QCLcBGAs/s1600/hecttr02.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 13, 2018, 04:07:05 AM
I didn't expect to finish the trolls so quickly, so that was the extent of my "Month of Marsh" plans. So quickly coming up with something else marshy & boggy... (http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/03/marshing-on.html)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F9qYlWLk6bk/WqdJmsTJuMI/AAAAAAAAG2A/pgzs8AEqrDcl4iBYIvyEeAgNyBLhtz40ACLcBGAs/s1600/bgcpse01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 18, 2018, 01:40:21 AM
The Month of Marsh continues with.... actual games being played!  o_o

I fielded the Fomorians for some KoW...

http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/03/st-patricks-day-kow.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pwB4hM1mlMc/Wq22ozbqaKI/AAAAAAAAG2w/_4nTuc2Y4eocbZmxVgGkLyPJabsCTQDmwCLcBGAs/s1600/spdm18_3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 21, 2018, 02:11:34 AM
Bog corpses.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u4EmIjDVZ1s/WrB3sF-t4lI/AAAAAAAAG38/oiyAagotjqsFpVWB03SB1eOo1CkD3CxHgCLcBGAs/s1600/bgcpse03.jpg)

A bit of background: http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/03/bog-corpses.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Ogrob on March 21, 2018, 06:00:45 AM
Wow, those are excellent! What a lovely paint scheme.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: beefcake on March 21, 2018, 08:33:14 AM
Very nice. Did you ever manage to get any blood moon miniatures Bog Raiders? They were basically Fimir. I think a little smaller though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Argonor on March 21, 2018, 10:42:18 PM
Bog corpses.

A bit of background: http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/03/bog-corpses.html

Those are splendid, why didn't I think of that?  o_o
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: area23 on March 22, 2018, 02:08:54 PM
Excellent idea!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Elbows on March 22, 2018, 04:19:58 PM
This thread is best thread.  Continue.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 22, 2018, 06:29:49 PM
Cool idea. Nicely executed.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2018, 05:09:22 PM
Thanks everyone.

No, I don't have any of the Blood Moon bog raiders.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on March 24, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
Excellent bog corpses!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 24, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
Thank you!


Today I got one of my "holy grail" oldschool minis...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QbDpO0olscg/WravDYHPIAI/AAAAAAAAG5E/ePXE9ilajewY2ESrj6mjwebd7ApuzsQrACLcBGAs/s1600/mmogrefin.jpg)

Humble as the mini may seem, I haven been trying to get one for many long years. Today he arrived.


"Welcome. We've been saving a space for you...."

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sBD6BEOVUHs/WravQSDIKsI/AAAAAAAAG5I/xGKgRHTydP04NTysQEFY0vPkTwl7XW2RQCLcBGAs/s1600/mmogrewait.jpg)

Now my MM ogre regiment/collection is complete. Everything else on my painting table just got pushed aside...

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Month of Marsh)
Post by: Metternich on March 24, 2018, 10:06:24 PM
WOW - old Marauder Ogres !  Those are wonderful sculpts, wish I had a few.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 01, 2018, 07:24:51 AM

I'm not usually a "completest" collector but in this case I've been dying to get that last ogre for years!


No more marsh-y themed minis for March. I'm still working on stripping the paint from those old Marauder trolls, and looking for the remaining two that I still don't have.  In the meantime, I am soaking the other four in some Dawn Power Dissolver, at the recommendation of Blue. My usual go-to, Simple Green, just wasn't cutting it this time. I did manage to strip, prime and start on the MM41 ogre that finally completes my collection.

While that's all going down, I also, miraculously quick, finished the Westfalia goat knights!

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kyR80UozeXo/WsADkBV87EI/AAAAAAAAG7o/p9qlaEGIMi8Ro44Y5Q3FLwAEMy6EtE_jQCLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_165719.jpg)


So with Big April coming up, I'm looking forward to...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j7hMacF29OM/WsAD6t4J29I/AAAAAAAAG7s/0--cZe5q9j8NN2cbptyb-M3XWLLFqvr7ACLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_115626.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tjanKnuHRbU/WsAD_t5mBkI/AAAAAAAAG7w/C7MqU51ag-0sqlky1SHJrSNmsj8B1ZTBQCLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_115647.jpg)

Giants! (And the above-mentioned ogre.) A bit ambitious, and slightly out of focus it seems. First will be finishing the paint on the Warploque giant. While that's going on, I will prep the other two -- from Heresy and Otherworld.

IF, by some miracle that all gets done, I have more in mind. I would still REALLY like to sculpt my own giant. Given the timing, that's been on my mind again and I think I've got a decent picture in my head of that I want to do. Also, I've got some more giants here, still waiting to be painted. I have several of the Reaper Bones giants from their last KS. These are a bit larger than the older sculpts, and in fact one is a resculpt of one I've previously painted.

I've also got the extra heads from the Otherworld giant. The web site says to select one, but they ended up sending all three. I could try to magnetize them so they're swapable. Or maybe I can work out a way to get an extra giant out of the deal...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-w5SvkJfbYNA/WsAGN2LPfPI/AAAAAAAAG8I/ajE_8UvuctsvfJBhMwqAikaOflW7FBZAACLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_115845.jpg)

...oooooor maybe not.


I recently bought the PDF of Sellswords and Spellslingers recently. I was impressed enough with the possibilities for both solo and co-op skirmish gaming that I ordered the cards from Drive-Through Cards. There are actually four sets of useful cards available. You don't need them all, but the price for professionally printed cards didn't seem bad, so I went for all of them.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v7oGYvc1nDA/WsB6JHqXGBI/AAAAAAAAG8Y/_p71dS3qmTwj0QZeSQUjiahvXjXDaSu-gCLcBGAs/s1600/20180331_154127.jpg)

At first glance (they just arrived today) the cards look like very nice quality.

I'm hoping to try a solo game soon. Need to build my first band of adventurers!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: beefcake on April 01, 2018, 07:44:18 AM
Very jealous of that Heresy Giant. Can't wait to see it painted up.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: Argonor on April 01, 2018, 07:04:45 PM
Yes, more S&S goodness about to be displayed!  8)

Just preparing to get stuck in myself - and looking forward too see some of your fine minis in action, too!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Big April)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 02, 2018, 03:56:53 AM
Yes, more S&S goodness about to be displayed!  8)

Just preparing to get stuck in myself - and looking forward too see some of your fine minis in action, too!

It was partially because of all the discussion here at LAF that I looked into it. Seems like an accessible game with some excellent potential for solo options. I'm hoping to roll some dice with this game very soon!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Imperial Ogres)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 08, 2018, 07:27:21 AM
Finally! Finished the last Marauder ogre. Collection complete!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pnDb2A5-Zgw/Wsmx6sSXmFI/AAAAAAAAG9g/VselkcI2pWwgazGmKkzTIAsIEoeXvNergCLcBGAs/s1600/mmog-fin.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Imperial Ogres)
Post by: Metternich on April 08, 2018, 05:16:48 PM
A fearsome collection of  landsknecht ogres for Imperial service !
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Imperial Ogres)
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on April 08, 2018, 07:43:10 PM
I like the ogres.  Monster Barbie also looks good :D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (GIANTS!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 09, 2018, 06:36:13 AM
Thank you. Those are some of my favorite Citadel-ish minis, and my top pick from Marauder. Very happy to finally have the full set.

I've had a little time to work on the Warploque giant. One pic, but go to the blog to see more, in the best entry title I think I've ever come up with... Warploque Drunk Walter Skank Jerk Matthau (http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/04/big-april-progress-warploque-drunk.html)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8zyaP9po6-8/Wsr1sH3sFcI/AAAAAAAAG-A/B28cIZ5UdWAZ1TlH1hYJLYrH75UlNOk4ACLcBGAs/s1600/wlg18-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: tomrommel1 on April 09, 2018, 02:10:00 PM
stunning
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Metternich on April 09, 2018, 04:18:34 PM
Intimidating !
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 14, 2018, 03:32:54 AM

Thanks!

Slowly painting Walter's loot. (Yes, that will be his name - or some variation of it.) He's got a pig, goat, goose, maiden, sausages, and a bunch of other little details...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OGZr5fimh-g/WtFn3-6-zrI/AAAAAAAAG-8/d-Ea2b_I7Uo0pkePMwlhTPYcM9AjTzxrgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180413_191650%2B%25281%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on April 14, 2018, 04:03:35 AM
That's a crazy amount of detail.  I love all the loot (and the painting). Looks like he needs to see a good podiatrist.

By the way, is that a horses tail sticking up or does he need waxing?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 15, 2018, 04:05:01 AM

Yes... needs a podiatrist, a dentist, and... *shudder* a waxing.  :-X


Finally finished painting Walter, my Warploque giant. More photos on my blog. (http://"http://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/04/walter.html")

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ueLQ6IrDSdM/WtK9UalzCxI/AAAAAAAAG_8/MTZ2HWcNa-AFgdj4co7PRCPKjIWS4xwzACLcBGAs/s1600/wlg18-dn-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 16, 2018, 03:24:33 AM
Next up...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XFLGSvAswig/WtP-RtYqLEI/AAAAAAAAHAw/X1_kgQIiUuI94-3nF2BAeaD37I1f-TTnACLcBGAs/s1600/20180415_182321.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: beefcake on April 16, 2018, 10:11:45 AM
Can't wait to see this one painted. It's massive. If I had the money to buy one I couldn't store it anywhere.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: von Lucky on April 18, 2018, 10:58:55 AM
Seriously? It's the perfect dining table centrepiece :D

Nice work Z.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Metternich on April 19, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
Loved the painting on your "small Giant," in Imperial livery !  So much more refined than his larger, and brutish, colleague.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: beefcake on April 20, 2018, 05:05:45 AM
Seriously? It's the perfect dining table centrepiece :D

Nice work Z.

Remove the axe and replace it with a removable carving knife?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 22, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
Loved the painting on your "small Giant," in Imperial livery !  So much more refined than his larger, and brutish, colleague.

Thanks. A classic mini, still one of the best.

Remove the axe and replace it with a removable carving knife?

 lol




At the risk of being a little off topic & incurring mod-wrath... :-X ...a couple of links below. I've got a bit of a financial issue, so I'm going through my games/minis & reluctantly listing a few things for sale...

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/04/man-o-war-for-sale.html

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/04/fimirfomorians-for-sale_22.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Ragsta on April 22, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
Are you sure you want to sell these things? I think most hobbyists have made these decisions and promptly regretted them, myself included :(
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 25, 2018, 02:19:59 AM
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FHMbErJPcAg/Wt_Vhw_tUCI/AAAAAAAAHDk/b12sTzUnyb46Asl344lVl-aB1PUiFIraQCLcBGAs/s1600/20180424_210446.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Murawski1812 on April 27, 2018, 01:38:33 PM
That is one HUGE figure.. wow!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 02, 2018, 03:28:33 AM

This is as far as I made it on the second giant I was hoping to finish by the end of Big April.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MEDjmPGXO2g/WujkouJh7PI/AAAAAAAAHEk/mm4fWjMra6MJnKTT9Vee95psI4xBVb1XACLcBGAs/s1600/20180429_233451.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iyDYSlhklY4/Wujkoe8ZzrI/AAAAAAAAHEg/ITI4VKDGLTgHvATstXEPLXSjHpuT5OUVwCLcBGAs/s1600/20180429_233457.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: von Lucky on May 02, 2018, 09:08:59 AM
Looking good - better to get it right than rush something at the end.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: jon_1066 on May 02, 2018, 09:22:00 AM
He's forgotten to take his lunch out of the tin can!

Looking great.  That's a lot of model to paint.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Giger on May 02, 2018, 10:34:26 AM
Great work on the big fella.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: beefcake on May 02, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
Looking great. I really like the eye work.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 12, 2018, 02:12:31 AM
Progress on the big giant (that doesn't even sound redundant to me, in this instance) has been creeping alog very slowly. I've  been itching to finally play some solo Sellswords, so drew up a warband based on some of the setting I've been developing, adapted a scenario from the book and.... I need a boatload of bushes. So I've started making some based on a couple of earlier test pieces from a few years ago. Still need even more...


(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-atSmqgkVwKk/WvUXu4IqXqI/AAAAAAAAHGg/eAqq3SugfZAw3uCj8GxQkmJo2LqQK1EIgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180510_235324.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: beefcake on May 12, 2018, 05:08:03 AM
Looks nice. I can't wait for my copy of Sellswords to arrive. I might browse Aliexpress for some cheap terrain.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Argonor on May 12, 2018, 08:13:30 PM
Looks nice. I can't wait for my copy of Sellswords to arrive. I might browse Aliexpress for some cheap terrain.

For the first scenario, you really just need a 3x3 table and a lot of bushes (I used moss/lichen).

I've  been itching to finally play some solo Sellswords, so drew up a warband based on some of the setting I've been developing, adapted a scenario from the book and.... I need a boatload of bushes. So I've started making some based on a couple of earlier test pieces from a few years ago. Still need even more...

Can't wait to see your take on it - SS&SS has really tickled my Fantasy nerve and has we wanting to get new stuff ready for the table.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 13, 2018, 06:09:21 AM
For the first scenario, you really just need a 3x3 table and a lot of bushes (I used moss/lichen).

Can't wait to see your take on it - SS&SS has really tickled my Fantasy nerve and has we wanting to get new stuff ready for the table.

Thanks! I'm just about ready to play my first game & getting excited to roll some dice!



Spontaneous painting of miniatures... (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ujVQ18rl1U4/WvfGUceMXPI/AAAAAAAAHG8/8MoNgjm6nCkmkCEEh760kBJI1WE7qI52QCLcBGAs/s1600/20180512_232240.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Giants!)
Post by: Argonor on May 13, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
Hehe, I have both of those (and at least two of the sickle wraith).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (jackalope)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 16, 2018, 04:42:03 AM

Jackalope!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bxFSTC4C3PE/Wvum_aQC4nI/AAAAAAAAHIk/wms3CxXhx7kC4YpTOOND1S3GFq-3LT9LwCLcBGAs/s1600/jlope01.jpg)

...and a shot with a scale reference...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--OSFTGPUNts/WvunHBkL-JI/AAAAAAAAHIo/sNt-72_aorwF6CaVRKroVFWvZiSJhRLTACLcBGAs/s1600/jlope02.jpg)

I really love this figure, both the sculpt and how the painting turned out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (jackalope)
Post by: Argonor on May 16, 2018, 10:55:19 PM
Nice critter - where did you get it?  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (jackalope)
Post by: Spooktalker on May 17, 2018, 07:16:11 AM
Jackalope!


Hah, nice! I happen to have one on my workbench too, from the Malifaux line.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (jackalope)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 19, 2018, 06:08:29 AM


Thanks! It came from Stonehaven Miniatures. https://www.stonehavenmini.com/ I got the jackalope and a tengu in a surprise miniatures exchange.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (The Hermit and the Boar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 19, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
The Hermit and the Boar

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AL4dChPbaHo/WwBGRSREzNI/AAAAAAAAHJE/oKoYJnjCGlk3rfnU3Ft8dRXgUBke1TAggCLcBGAs/s1600/brrmn02.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (The Hermit and the Boar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 20, 2018, 04:57:04 PM


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bD6aD1ceJxM/WwGaY9vnj5I/AAAAAAAAHJQ/GIW-KaK293wZ5jTCWTMceouRiPU7cexPwCLcBGAs/s1600/tgu01-600.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (The Hermit and the Boar)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on May 20, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
Lovely stuff - I really like the hermit and the boar.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (The Hermit and the Boar)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 04, 2018, 05:45:43 AM
Lovely stuff - I really like the hermit and the boar.

Thank you. I've got a story or two brewing regarding them...


Been working a bit on some halberdiers for the JTC, and also checked in on my forlorn gaming table. More of that on the blog (https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/06/halberdier-wip-and-table-in-rafters.html).

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ddzghx2PjU8/WxS-fjs980I/AAAAAAAAHLM/qSSnSFowiIQRRJR8TiMIqbpwfOjqz8QtQCLcBGAs/s1600/hhalb01.jpg)


Also, as our yard starts to turn green with the spring sun & rain, I've noticed a similarity to some of my recent terrain. The original two bushes were done before moving into this house, but I'm happy to see the similarity to real world foliage.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2loEKiyWReA/WxON4vvO2VI/AAAAAAAAHKo/ioXsu2rkgqsuDLjC0QT6jTsMkMU4Du-8gCLcBGAs/s1600/pixlr_20180602224014579.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: Little Odo on June 06, 2018, 08:48:57 AM
Those shrubs/bushes turned out great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: von Lucky on June 06, 2018, 10:54:05 AM
Uncanny. But we'll have to take your word for it that you didn't just search Google images until you found a picture that looked like your terrain lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: beefcake on June 06, 2018, 11:37:18 AM
I just noticed recently mirliton rereleased the barbarian giant.  Don't know if I saw it amongst the multitude you have :)
Bushes look amazing
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 08, 2018, 05:26:58 AM
Thank you.

I can post photos of me trimming the grape vines while holding the models, if that's more convincing.  ;) I just hacked at it last weekend - it keeps growing and unfortunately the grapes don'e even taste very good.

Milton barbarian giant? The one with the big mace? Unfortunately I don't own any of the old Grenadier giants anymore.



Made a little progress on the halberdiers, finished the first few. There will be 32 when done. Figures are a mix of Grenadier and Front Rank.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PI6tb1BEC3Y/WxoDktNvg8I/AAAAAAAAHMs/ghrZW_IqCgcZ3MXTumsmzNfQN4f_iytkACLcBGAs/s1600/20180607_231306%2B%25281%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: beefcake on June 08, 2018, 06:11:45 AM
I think they've had the mace one around for a while.
This was the one I saw recently. Kind of fits the aesthetic you have going.
http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=barbarian-war-giant&cName=fantasy-2528mm-barbarians
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 15, 2018, 05:59:32 AM
Don't think I've seen that one before! Going to have to wait anyway -- backed up on giants, and it would probably be a fortune to get him overseas.  o_o



Finished the next batch of halberdiers, but I did get hung up on the drum, so the drummer is not quite finished yet. But this makes 15.5 of 32 done. On target (ish) for the monthly goal, I suppose. Miniatures are, again, mostly a mix of Front Rank & Grenadier -- but with an old Citadel mini thrown in as well.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rcqmPCD7QWU/WyNC5DK1UUI/AAAAAAAAHNs/JhaRApJZkxck53hwJcJgpzI-a8m8v_cMgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180615_001955.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: von Lucky on June 18, 2018, 12:41:50 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: killshot on June 18, 2018, 12:51:34 AM
Great looking Miniatures!  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Halberdiers, etc.)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 18, 2018, 05:47:08 AM
Thank you! Started on the second half of the unit and also finished the last bits of the final mini from the first half.

The halberdiers march to the beat...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S3CivQGg7GI/Wyc1DJBlpEI/AAAAAAAAHOM/BsexA6iCK6UnbYTBFXfwSUGif4cCl1mxgCLcBGAs/s1600/hhalb-drum.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 16, 2018, 02:36:37 AM
Painted some half-orcs.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-edNF56OyKuc/W0vhBDsQBBI/AAAAAAAAHQw/fmYXWBZymt0Ph5EOBju_B2B5IeC_glOOQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180715_124633.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q4nLo4vEfig/W0vi4pnxtsI/AAAAAAAAHRE/cmJZ7srekBovepSopQZxXO6U-1q9x9VTQCLcBGAs/s1600/horc_bwack01.jpg)

More at the blog: https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/07/half-orc-scouts.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: beefcake on July 16, 2018, 03:03:56 AM
Love those half orcs great minis great paint job
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: Bloggard on July 16, 2018, 08:45:04 AM
great stuff, all.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: gibby64 on July 16, 2018, 04:13:38 PM
Great color schemes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 22, 2018, 03:36:36 AM
Thank you. They were enjoyable miniatures to paint.

I don't generally buy many minis (gaming budget is extremely limited), but at the beginning of the year I told myself that I'd try to go all year without buying any new ones - or at least trying to keep it to a minimum. (Besides, a few previously supported Kickstarters will be delivered over the course of the year.) I've done pretty well. I did recently sell some art, so I took splurged with some of the proceeds and bought a few minis that will most likely enter directly into the painting queue.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_L0CJxPs1R0/W1O4ReaqENI/AAAAAAAAHR4/LO3iRL_K56k5z4A_Jwmz30mi4xuts-aXQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180721_151932.jpg)

On the left is the Grenadier/Mirliton mini that I previously commented that I was eyeing as a mounted half-orcs general. I love this figure. After getting it in the mail today, I like it even more I think it has a bit of a Frazetta vibe to it. Now I want to get a muscular yet curvaceous half naked half-orc to accompany him. ;)

Next are three Reaper half-orcs of varying sizes. Previously painted mini included for scale comparison. I think the smallest will fit in well, though slight stylistic differences. I think the middle one will also look good on a 20x40 base, similar to the way I included a couple of Reaper orcs in with the previously painted regiment. The merchant... way bigger than I expected. His body is closer to the Foundry orcs or Marauder Ogres, but his head is much smaller than either so he doesn't look like he'd fit with those. Not so sure how/if he will fit in to the collection. Maybe I could try sculpting a new head on him?

Last is a Reaper skeleton I've been eyeing for at least a year and a half, for use as an undead hero. Also a little larger than expected, but I think he will be OK.



My mind wandering while listening to music at work. Realms of Chaos, the...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FVDKtqM0qhs/W1O3SchB63I/AAAAAAAAHRs/xrOeiV9WuLAUv_Lg85_G-_X6mAvu6obKQCLcBGAs/s1600/pixlr.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs & halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 23, 2018, 04:16:33 AM
Photo's a bit overlit, but I'm closing in on finishing the halberdiers. Just two more minis to paint after this, the standard bearer and a trumpeter.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1-in0D5mFxw/W1U_2dXnXmI/AAAAAAAAHSE/C_J3KdBgHbIzI5ikKnALA3YoacvZPzqkACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180722_223307.jpg)


I also found the original minis that sort of inspired the JTC, also a Reaper mini...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DPKcEdX1Pd0/W1VB2t_NoyI/AAAAAAAAHSQ/5pNOCxc3uMMZ6QuKurNi2982w444k6ShQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180722_223347.jpg)

More about that at the blog... https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/07/halberdiers-almost-done-but-not-yet.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs & halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 28, 2018, 04:43:02 PM
Other than the standard itself, I'm done with the halberdiers. I've got 4or 5 standards to paint from different units. I think that may be my next project.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kr-HwgLUA8s/W1yJv89v4PI/AAAAAAAAHSo/6yKR25Y4lTkaJ-RU6bGijNc8UxN5FetuACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180728_105958.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4Fc3iQ9iynI/W1yJ0bzO-YI/AAAAAAAAHSs/8Pw_oE3BQGo98vvP8tvsybIiQ9lQ6gWWQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180728_110352.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs & halberdiers)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 04, 2018, 01:48:39 AM
Everyone else is Bringing Out their Lead and GenConning and I'm just here at home with my newly arrived non-humans skeletons, robots, and zombie Lemmy.  :D

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yg8YpULzUG8/W2TvS7G0htI/AAAAAAAAHTY/BVCwoBEPJZEZQR4aXDluyZO72aotRbTlACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180803_194114.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NopYZ0zDr-0/W2TvUPdvhCI/AAAAAAAAHTc/pUCdUVI0BFAwxg-7a-T8assDQfFMOCCCACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180803_194119_20180803195715827.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-orcs & halberdiers)
Post by: Bloggard on August 04, 2018, 10:17:20 AM
wow, the halbediers are fantastic.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Stuff! In the Mail!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2018, 02:37:56 AM
Thank you!

 recently wrote how I was avoiding buying new minis this year, except to treat myself those few half orcs I recently picked up.

That was like summoning up temptation.

And I gave in to a buy I couldn't pass up. They classic minis and are close enough to half-orcs to be painted and used as such.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dMKo-DEke5k/W2ZLnTqjHVI/AAAAAAAAHT4/FakG-hZS-K4hXQo1-sqATb0SIhCaElpyACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180804_175035.jpg)

Seriously, no more buying minis the rest of the year.  ;D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Stuff! In the Mail!)
Post by: fitterpete on August 05, 2018, 03:04:34 AM
Where are you getting the Grenadier fighting men from?  I'm striking out with the retailers I got my barbarian army from.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Stuff! In the Mail!)
Post by: Hobgoblin on August 05, 2018, 12:37:25 PM
Those Throgg's hobgoblins are terrific models. And yes, they'll make great half-orcs; they're closer to Citadel's other half-orcs than to their other hobgoblins.

They also fit into a nice continuum with Jez Goodwin's Asgard orcs at one end and his Uruk-hai and ogres at the other.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Stuff! In the Mail!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2018, 04:51:53 PM
Where are you getting the Grenadier fighting men from?  I'm striking out with the retailers I got my barbarian army from.

I've had them since Grenadier was still around.

They also fit into a nice continuum with Jez Goodwin's Asgard orcs at one end and his Uruk-hai and ogres at the other.

I don't have any of those, but every once in a while I browse the Viking Forge web site. At some point I will order some of the old 'uns.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orc; Plague)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 02, 2018, 01:25:05 AM
Been horribly I'll for going on three weeks now. Haven't done any painting in a while, until I rage-painted one of the previously started half-orcs just now.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5JORZRw1Iqw/W4sq9YJ6sYI/AAAAAAAAHUw/wyU0d0ckBGksXEYgRb5zH3BttF5jtAN2gCLcBGAs/s1600/pixlr_20180901200909636.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orc; Plague)
Post by: Bloggard on September 02, 2018, 09:24:48 AM
something good's come out of it. top notch as per ...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orc; Plague)
Post by: beefcake on September 02, 2018, 09:46:50 AM
Very nice. The shield is especially good.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (The Hermit and the Boar)
Post by: Elk101 on September 02, 2018, 09:54:04 AM
Lovely vibe with the figures you've selected.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orc; Plague)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on September 02, 2018, 01:43:41 PM
The half orcs are ace - the old ROR minis were true favs of mine back then.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orc; Plague)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 03, 2018, 03:29:37 AM
Thanks!

When I first discovered Citadel miniatures (here in the US), the only ones I could find were the ROR boxes at a couple of hobby shops. I cleaned them out. Sadly most were sold or traded off. But now it's nice nostalgia to get a few back. Never had those Hobgoblins the first time around, though.


Squeezed out a few minutes throughout the day to speed through another Reaper half-orcs. Both of these were admittedly really easy to paint. The second one has been slightly modified. I cut off the ridiculous blades from her armour, and gave her a more humble shield to hopefully look better with the rest of the half-orcs.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kJR28hxSKrk/W4ySJtzhr5I/AAAAAAAAHVM/V3uwW-cHoJc-TNdrQul2yEERk3X5-ATNwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180902_213438_20180902214208200.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Polymorph)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 16, 2018, 03:35:39 AM


I cast polymorph cheap dinosaur toy into skeletal owlbear!

*Poof*

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z02PqZ-A1Pk/W529VzTOd2I/AAAAAAAAHXg/nSRdYKt2f9sESGENA2bylDhEG7ueM7SaQCLcBGAs/s1600/pixlr.jpg)

Got a couple of skeletal triceratops toys in a package from Shadespyre a while ago. With a little work I think it turned out OK. The post-surgery beak-like skull, size and stance made me think owlbear.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Polymorph)
Post by: beefcake on September 16, 2018, 11:27:20 AM
That's very cool. Nice conversion!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Polymorph)
Post by: Suber on September 16, 2018, 01:06:06 PM
Haha, that's pretty clever, I love it!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Horc Solo)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 18, 2018, 01:54:04 AM
Thanks! I was really just trying to make it so it wouldn't be identified as a triceratops. But then I thought, hmmm skeletal owlbear. To go with my zombie owlbear. I need to get a "living" one now.  :-D

So... There's now this creation. Horc Solo. Read on zee blog if you're curious about him.

https://www.zerotwentythree.com

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4qpimo_TRhI/W6BIh0Omm-I/AAAAAAAAHYE/0yp2j4F7Sugq4xc-Gjx3EzeL9VagXOq4ACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180917_191657.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Horc Solo)
Post by: Hobgoblin on September 18, 2018, 10:04:15 AM
Great work on that orc - and all the more impressive given the blurry detail on those Bones orc faces! Bravo!

Just read your blog post about the despoiling hobgoblins. If you want four more of those troopers, I'll post them to you - just PM me your address.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Horc Solo)
Post by: Bloggard on September 18, 2018, 10:07:08 AM

So... There's now this creation. Horc Solo. Read on zee blog if you're curious about him.


great painting.
he looks better than Harrison does these days.

nice artwork on the can.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Horc Solo)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 19, 2018, 01:00:15 AM


When I posted pics of my painted Drew Williams trolls, a few people asked where I got them. They're available again, along with three new ones, for a limited time.

https://www.facebook.com/Satyr-Art-Studio-463146913708886/

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Horc Solo)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 21, 2018, 02:29:24 AM
I'm not very good at this "not buying new minis" thing. But at least I'm still keeping it to a minimum. And these were both hard to pass up and bargains as well...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YP9WJjOFVXM/W6RGef6MAyI/AAAAAAAAHYo/x2lZpI7FzqkKSsqZbF-38A36HGUQc3YSACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20180920_174357.jpg)

I've wanted the Serpentine Dragon since I was a teen. The other is some sort of Kickstarter exclusive mini from a boardgame, and is very fitting for the Meat Hating Robot Pirates.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Horc Solo)
Post by: ecurtz on September 21, 2018, 04:06:53 AM
The Kali Automaton is from Smog: Rise of Moloch, a CMoN game which actually turned out to have good gameplay (they don't always) as well as some nice "steampunk" minis.

Love the skeletal Owlbear, very clever.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 11, 2018, 05:32:21 AM

Thanks! I like the fact that it's "Kali" and I might keep some concept of that when I paint it up for my Meat Hating Robot Pirates.  :D


I was excited for half-Orctober. But I've been travelling a lot for work and have barely had time for painting. Here's my humble start.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O-4YuUuwynM/W76_bjx2scI/AAAAAAAAHaI/mQR4ru_7tksqT5AUcbbyZpfpVG6WBGMYACLcBGAs/s1600/hobhorcs01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: von Lucky on October 11, 2018, 10:13:07 AM
A good start. My brother had one of those half orcs when we were in our teens and we both loved the chunkiness of the sculpt.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Stuff! In the Mail!)
Post by: Michi on October 11, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
Where are you getting the Grenadier fighting men from?  I'm striking out with the retailers I got my barbarian army from.

I have a box of them. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 11, 2018, 10:57:05 AM
Great to see them coming on! They're one of the best Regiments of Renown, I think. I often think the preslotta RoRs were better than their later incarnations (Grom's Goblin Guard and Harboth's Black Mountain Boys in particular), but these are the pick of the slottabased bunch.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 12, 2018, 04:02:54 AM


To be honest, most of my experience with the old RoR was slotta-age. When I first got into Warhammer the only Citadel minis I could find were boxed sets. (I'm in the US, so I started off with Ral Partha & Grenadier.) So in terms of Citadel, I started by collecting most of the slotta RoR and Machineries of Destructioni. These hobgoblins, Knights of the Cleansing Flame, and Grom's (and I'm going to disagree with you here - I really like the slotta Grom unit, especially the musician lol ) were the only ones I didn't have back in the day.

Sadly, most of those old units are gone now.

I'm developing a renewed interest in the RoR. Obviously. I see Notlob's Artillery pop up every so often, and at some point the price will be right for me to grab a set. The half-orcs seem a bit (er, a lot) more elusive. Honestly, so do all of the Citadel half-orcs, unfortunately for me. But I've been pretty happy with the alternatives I've been rooting out.

I'm still enamored with the idea of creating my own Regiment(s) of Renown at some point, too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 13, 2018, 04:37:02 PM
No progress on the half-orcs. Travelling a lot for work this month. On a positive note, I'm on a work trip that's close enough to make it to a gallery opening that will have a few of my creepy toy things tonight...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QAY2Uk_egQo/W8IL33II5VI/AAAAAAAAHag/rVojJdJ4CCEBcdHww8OSxUzHHgF-e1JhQCLcBGAs/s280/IMG_20181013_104518_308.jpg)

Pics on the blog:

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/10/monsters-under-bed.html

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: von Lucky on October 13, 2018, 10:18:34 PM
Not creepy - but extremely creepy!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 20, 2018, 02:17:32 AM
Thanks! It was monster & Halloween themes show, after all.  :D

Pic from the evening in question. I'm leftmost in the lineup.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sj_M1tjFZsg/W8p4CmkVEsI/AAAAAAAAAyE/SElH4_q64uUpj_xyP5eS7mAUvJ-snDZ9QCLcBGAs/s1600/Screenshot_20181017-104021.jpg)


With travelling for work keeping me busy, I haven't had much time for painting. I painted the flesh on all of the despoiling hobgoblins half-orcs (hob-orcs?) but also painted one to completion so I could test out how they would look

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oqfuwJo4gv4/W8p8iiCEfXI/AAAAAAAAHbQ/CYuRgOmecqQCym-PmFAfbGGq7y36uhTggCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181019_192633.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: von Lucky on October 20, 2018, 05:14:03 AM
Strong, dependable colour choices.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 21, 2018, 06:52:25 AM
Thanks. Trying to include a little variety, but stay in a certain aesthetic. First half of the unit done, all rank & file so far.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zDxA2aJZGrY/W8wTMauXV5I/AAAAAAAAHbo/fZysCI0KSoY1bk6hAyTjXDA8_uSSm_a0wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181021_014030.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: Bloggard on October 21, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
powerful stuff.

brought this to mind somehow: I imagine you may be familiar with tom baker's 'the boy who kicked pigs' - but if not, might be up your street, although it's not really got fanciful / faerie content now I think about it.

No progress on the half-orcs. Travelling a lot for work this month. On a positive note, I'm on a work trip that's close enough to make it to a gallery opening that will have a few of my creepy toy things tonight...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QAY2Uk_egQo/W8IL33II5VI/AAAAAAAAHag/rVojJdJ4CCEBcdHww8OSxUzHHgF-e1JhQCLcBGAs/s280/IMG_20181013_104518_308.jpg)

Pics on the blog:

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/10/monsters-under-bed.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 23, 2018, 06:25:30 PM
Thanks, I'll have to look into that book.


Here's a progress photo showing front and back painting variations. Rank & file are all done - just need to paint command figures & do the bases.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6qXZXhdnZ1E/W89YtgUkKtI/AAAAAAAAHcA/CJe1U92lyMMEkXwhncEASBaFhsT-bj-OwCLcBGAs/s1600/pixlr.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 23, 2018, 09:12:32 PM
Looking good! The variety in the cloaks works really well. Do you have any plans for the shields?

Grunmunter the Beast is a terrific figure, I've always thought. As is Throg himself.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 23, 2018, 09:18:24 PM
I'm still trying to decide on a design or sigil for the shields.

I do like all four of the command figures, looking forward to painting them. Obviously going to take a little more time & care on them.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 23, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
I'm still trying to decide on a design or sigil for the shields.

If I recall correctly, the original Citadel write-up for these referred to "the emblem shown" but didn't actually show an emblem!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 24, 2018, 03:23:00 AM
I'd like to do something simple, but avoid cliches like an eye, hand, or evil sun/moon.

Maybe a stylized black star (sort of like a Macedonian design?) or plume of smoke ?

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 24, 2018, 04:37:36 AM
The more I paint these oldscool regiments -- whether pre-defined Regiments of Renown, or my own assembly of old minis with custom back story, the more I want to try putting my rudimentary sculpting skills to work at creating my own old style regiment. Half-orcs are at the top of my list. Ideally/optimistically I'd like to try for 4 command figures plus 3 trooper variants. Then make a simple mold to reproduce enough of the troopers in resin.

I've got other things I'd like to wrap up first, but maybe this could be a project to start with the new year.

It would be a challenge. My last unit sculpting attempt didn't go very well, and only ever got half finished (they're still in a box somewhere, in this same unfinished state...)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/0multiplog/rtmnwil01_zpsqdglqdeb.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 24, 2018, 10:49:31 AM
Those greens look really good! Were they beastmen of some sort?

I'd like to do something simple, but avoid cliches like an eye, hand, or evil sun/moon.

Maybe a stylized black star (sort of like a Macedonian design?) or plume of smoke ?

It's quite hard to avoid the cliches but yet make the symbol recognisable, I find, which is why I fall back so often on faces, skulls and pentacles. But I can see a somewhat abstract smoke plume working really well - it wouldn't even need to be particularly recognisable to create an interesting division of the shield. Very interested to see what you come up with!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: von Lucky on October 24, 2018, 01:23:47 PM
The sculpts don't look too bad - will be interested to see what you come up with.

And maybe a flower? To really confuse people.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: LordOdo on October 24, 2018, 10:44:13 PM
Maybe snakes, scorpions, spiders etc. could be an interesting design? What would Orks paint on their shields to look tough/ scare away enemies; stuff they'd fear themselves!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: von Lucky on October 25, 2018, 11:37:59 AM
Hence the flowers.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 28, 2018, 03:05:46 AM
16 Half-orcs (old RR15 Citadel hobgoblins) done!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q6gttfln_zs/W9UWirz4R9I/AAAAAAAAHeA/fhFuZAc5FjgUClfvZvcm534lr2_QYybswCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181027_211555.jpg)

More pics, updates, and plans on my blog. https://www.zerotwentythree.com/


The sculpts were supposed to be ratmen. They were a "learning experience", as the saying goes. The fur is pretty bad, and would have benefitted from pulling the putty a bit to create the appearance of hair instead of just holes on a surface. The feet are a bit flat. I may try finishing them at some point, just for the practice. As with anything, I think there's a benefit to failing a bunch of times in order to get better at something.


I like the flower idea. Things they fear? Maybe a picture of a handsome elf? lol

I tried a couple of ideas (including smoke plumes, mostly based on traditional Japanese aesthetics) on paper first but didn't like how they turned out. I went with a "black star" based on ancient Macedonian shield designs. I painting up ideas on paper, I think I have another idea that may appear on another unit, a black tree -- sort of an antithesis to the Tolkienesque white tree.

(FWIW, I've been thinking of using my generic fantasy half-orcs as actual orcs for possible future Middle Earth gaming. I think these minis in particular will would work fairly well in such a role. At least in terms of what I envision Tolkien's orcs to be. I still have some other minis in mind...)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 28, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
Great work! That star works very nicely, and there's a neat link between it, the standard and Grunmunter's mempo.


(FWIW, I've been thinking of using my generic fantasy half-orcs as actual orcs for possible future Middle Earth gaming. I think these minis in particular will would work fairly well in such a role. At least in terms of what I envision Tolkien's orcs to be. I still have some other minis in mind...)

I've earmarked at least a couple of mine for painting up as Isengarders. It would be the work of minutes to cut the sword straight and add a bow and quiver to the back. I think these make better Uruk-hai than Jez Goodwin's actual Uruk-hai of similar vintage, which are huge. The 'S' rune would just about fit on the plate on ht front of their helmets too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orctober)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 02, 2018, 05:28:52 AM

I've got a somewhat relaxed view of adapting Tolkien. So I'm OK with the swords as-is. Don't get me started on the hyenas from the movies, though...  lol


I treated myself to a couple packs of minis. (I worked something close to 80 hours the other week... I deserve some minis!) This is one -- an experiment to see how some other figures would fit into my idea of half-orcs.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UwD5_vNvNQE/W9pGoUeJPXI/AAAAAAAAHec/1WRpjidjvAkIy4c8lObXD_qypUfaGv26wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181031_180133.jpg) Details on the blog

I also got a bit distracted with some unexpected Halloween sculpting and painting. And toes.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mhAcfIlFuQs/W9pH87GvMjI/AAAAAAAAHeo/sSB5T0TZz6AjBFFeQxMuTbj047dVwh4IgCLcBGAs/s1600/pixlr_20181031200342841.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 10, 2018, 01:33:52 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x1LGdsBzgBk/W-bacvT1vUI/AAAAAAAAHgA/EvN4b1WZv9YDivQmQVr8dTn_I5veMZS-wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181109_192953.jpg)

More half-orcs. I painted the mounted hero (Grenadier barbarian) and two of the Alternative Armies hobgoblins. I sense a little tension in this photo!

I admit that I'm not fond of the paint color on kitty and may try touching it up.



Also painted a bit of scenery for a friend's high elf army, that I've worked on over the years. Not sure who made it, but it's a pretty cool obelisk.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lLC2iZ6YWQI/W-bbIb9bk3I/AAAAAAAAHgI/GrJ0CX-9pQ4l910lW_8lEm0PXXauI3pKgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181109_202249.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: von Lucky on November 10, 2018, 11:52:06 PM
Nice painting - kitty looks fine.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 11, 2018, 07:24:11 AM
Thanks. I'm not as convinced.  ;) I'm mostly OK with it, but something just looks... off.


Finished all five half-orcs, from an Alternative Armies hobgoblins pack. Oldschool sculpts, and the casting was a little rough, but the minis are expressive and dynamic. I'm a big fan of three of the five, still like one of the remaining two, and the guy with the club...I guess he can tag along just because he's in good company.

I'm very curious about the vintage and history of these sculpts. I'd love more minis like these, but the AA orcs seem to be from a variety of sources, even just within the few hobgoblin packs.


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XlSTqfX2kv8/W-fT2jQ1oqI/AAAAAAAAHgU/8I6QerCNqn4uuXJMdvLTmfmejsCv4qRagCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181111_011207.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: Elk101 on November 11, 2018, 08:40:47 AM
I really like 2, 3 and 5 (from L to R). I don't mind 1 but it's a little cruder than the others. I know what you mean about the club one, it doesn't look like it's part of the same group, style wise. I do like his helmet though.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 11, 2018, 11:31:08 AM
Nice work on these! I like the one with the club - his face has come out very well.

These were originally part of Rieder Design's Dungeon Dwellers range. There used to be lots of adverts for that range in White Dwarf in the early 80s. A lot of them hold up very well - especially the "Homus Hyena" gnolls (you can see one half-painted here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=77606;image)).

I think the hobgoblins were one of the later Rieder releases. Their armour is very similar to Aly Morrison's C36 hobgoblins (released in 1984), so that could be an influence. But it might just be "parallel evolution" from the Monster Manual illustrations.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 12, 2018, 12:12:36 AM
I really like 2, 3 and 5 (from L to R). I don't mind 1 but it's a little cruder than the others. I know what you mean about the club one, it doesn't look like it's part of the same group, style wise. I do like his helmet though.

That sums up my feelings on them exactly.

These were originally part of Rieder Design's Dungeon Dwellers range. There used to be lots of adverts for that range in White Dwarf in the early 80s. A lot of them hold up very well - especially the "Homus Hyena" gnolls (you can see one half-painted here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=77606;image)).

I think the hobgoblins were one of the later Rieder releases. Their armour is very similar to Aly Morrison's C36 hobgoblins (released in 1984), so that could be an influence. But it might just be "parallel evolution" from the Monster Manual illustrations.

Thank you! Now that I know a bit about the history, it makes sense. They definitely have a similar aesthetic & animation to some of the Citadel, Ral Partha, etc. minis from that period.  Now I also understand why AA's orcs & goblins look like they're a composite of different ranges. There's a couple of other packs that look interesting, too. But they will have to wait for another day...

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Novemborc?)
Post by: area23 on November 12, 2018, 12:04:41 PM
I remember they were sculpted by an illustrator, an artist who also worked for GW. Probably read that here on LAF when they were re-released by AA some years ago.
I really like them and your painting too.
The half-orc rider is really nice too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (more stuff...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 16, 2018, 04:56:23 AM

Thank you!




 I took a break from the half-orcs and jumped ahead to some minis I had prepped for the next theme-month: Deadcember.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y6IIUcXADQw/W-5B1qvTKpI/AAAAAAAAHhE/Y2W59fT1EmkAw8deKqdrKlAbq-dx3EfxwCLcBGAs/s1600/skelbalist01.jpg)

I was too excited to see how they would look, and it was a super quick painting project. I like the idea of light skeletal artillery better than individual skeleton archers. This is an old Grenadier set. More undead fun coming in a few more weeks.


A couple weeks ago I mentioned that I treated myself to a few minis -- namely the pack of Alternative Armies hobgoblins. There were two "treats" and the second one just arrived today...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YnBOWoj5iKw/W-4_B4vulTI/AAAAAAAAHg4/GSmlbXMIEbIg96ZoudkIcEv5BK0i4EB7QCLcBGAs/s1600/artz_vs_dw.jpg)

Two trolls from Artizan/Mike Owen (via Northstar.) I thought they looked like they would go well with the Satyr Art Studio/Drew Williams trolls. While I'm happy that the sculpting and casting are just as good, I'm a little disappointed that the're a bit smaller. But I'm hoping that after they're painted and based, they'll fit in a bit better.

I'm expecting the third set of 3 Satyr/Drew trolls to arrive any time now. So I'll have a nice small batch of trolls to paint up soon. I should try to find one more to fit in with these, and make it 6 to paint.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (more stuff...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 22, 2018, 03:55:57 AM
Forgot to post this. Finished this standard for the half-orcs a little while ago. This was an old mini -- one of the first I owned & painted more than 30 years ago -- and recently stripped. An old Grenadier orc. Photo shown with some of the other half-orcs for comparison.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o2KkApMHzEg/W_YnjbzwypI/AAAAAAAAHhw/zfkKBW21plgfS3eMW1dbRSp-Zc8iRnIxwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181117_235333.jpg)

He's a little larger (and uglier) but that's OK -- the big mean guy gets the honor of carrying the standard. Who's going to argue?

His helmet reminds me of the headgear of a certain Lichemaster...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (more stuff...)
Post by: sir_shvantselot on November 23, 2018, 07:41:32 PM
Great old school stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 02, 2018, 07:10:40 AM
Thank you!


Deadcember is upon us. Or me, at least. I cheated and started a couple days early and finished my first batch on Dec. 1. Eight more oldschool skeletons for my mercenary regiment(s). They're the oldschool Citadel plastics, missing the skulls so I used some of my last remaining resin skulls from Secret Weapon.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AORuNMljNyY/XAH_2I_5s0I/AAAAAAAAHjw/m61G_wCoYWY9VTaOmLOUyK_3yGH5WXDywCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181130_204506.jpg)

Added to the existing...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9X94oJM4wvo/XAH_8jrBwSI/AAAAAAAAHj0/03kYofZcBBUvmBRxcAVF1fDTpTVtIy8MgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181130_204422.jpg)


On Thanksgiving evening, I introduced my wife & daughter to Dundeon! I used to play when I was just a little older than my daughter (she's 7), one of the kids down the street had the game. We played the more recent re-publication version.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZcBvs7f-oEg/XAICNJNLSVI/AAAAAAAAHkM/G_r9N8lb7vw17hoCKAV_6hzgXnx_7OY8QCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181122_205455_20181123095824976.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 03, 2018, 05:38:12 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-esfwP4gpTfQ/XAS29BRXwwI/AAAAAAAAHkk/-Zzx6aQjtZMj83lU9jfVUoWZ3teaUZ8dACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181202_180418.jpg)

I'm still working on the backstory, but included a brief summary of the concept on my blog. https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/12/bones-ballistae.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on December 03, 2018, 08:46:17 AM
The variously coloured skeletons are oddly reminiscent of the skeletons from the Diablo games. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 05, 2018, 05:24:28 AM
The variously coloured skeletons are oddly reminiscent of the skeletons from the Diablo games. Great stuff.

Hadn't thought of it that way, but now you've got me thinking about that more...   :D



Ernst Wagner, traitor to the Empire, and his undead artillery battery (https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/12/bones-ballistae.html) (mix of old Grenadier & Citadel):

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zFzh4QidQq8/XAdX6BZj46I/AAAAAAAAHk8/Mw6zWkfCKNcJqEIWcTPVdM8H1PPa9uyDACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181204_215821.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 12, 2018, 03:45:07 AM
Non-human skeletons are not as common, but I've been collecting a few. I've got a small regiment and have just painted these five for Deadcember '18. The skeledwarf with the round shield is from Citadel's Cursed Company, the remaining four are from Diehard Miniatures.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ob43jRxCu54/XBCCm5v9RJI/AAAAAAAAHlg/KCQjgaN3sPk49yKdjVun2y_AIWQ1dp0xgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181211_221754.jpg)


One of my favorite undead heroes, from Reaper, also sculpted by Tim Prow. I'm obviously a fan of his undead!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cRw2ecsHIk8/XAySyAz7h2I/AAAAAAAAHlU/yHsHdJSn6VQrguZeAlhuE_QhoQ1YdgVbgCLcBGAs/s1600/undhro01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 23, 2018, 12:39:03 AM
Painted a few more for Deadcember. One more dead thing I'd like to paint by the end of the 'cember.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IlDpl0E6yBo/XB3WQ3KemQI/AAAAAAAAHm0/e4TXdXbPuoUUFNIGWfE1tmqA3jaBlZxhgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181221_232518.jpg)


I was travelling for work this week. Got into San Antonio airport around midnight, everything was closed & dark, turned the corner and war greeted by a Curtiss Jenny just hanging around.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yuQGd9aPQ0k/XB3Y4G3hjOI/AAAAAAAAHnE/NxE3LKZQ9QEsttWhkYQ7sImGWLjX43dvgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181217_000144_20181222005745231.jpg)

Had a couple hours before my flight home, so got a chance to visit the Alamo for the first time.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vLvvFF6xrWY/XB3Y4BRaN5I/AAAAAAAAHnA/wnlDS8u59kMUK2Wq1_xbaoflmo79y0CPwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181219_112348_20181222005643175.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: Metternich on December 23, 2018, 02:51:03 AM
I love the aged bone effect you give them.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2018, 03:35:05 AM
Thanks!



Painted I painted some wheels for the undead. Crewed with Screamer because he had a look that seemed like he would most enjoy it. My last goal for Deadcember is to paint the remaining champions from the set (Reaper, Hellblade, and Longhorn.) Not sure I'll paint Morbius the liche, as I have no use for him and have had a hell of a time stripping the paint off that mini.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XKY7jXYjh2Y/XCErk7VVOHI/AAAAAAAAHno/Tu8X9oNfVw0IVXvPJOOjhlhPcKKxB4bqACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181224_103324.jpg)

Awkward details on the floor of the chariot...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZxpGCOgRihs/XCErsXwKuXI/AAAAAAAAHns/GV0jLQ3EXYUUJieNJCkEvqo6xJar5N1fACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181223_224659_083.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1n0ROr5ZuLo/Vn1ztv0pBLI/AAAAAAAAC0o/_bewC-Y0jlEqDJ1u_XYCPT-h22kBisl-wCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/mcromir.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: von Lucky on December 25, 2018, 09:05:40 PM
lol same to you - like Metternich I like the bone colours you create.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 29, 2018, 05:41:57 PM
Thank you both! I try to give them a little variety and keep them from looking too clean.


I think I've wrapped up my Deadcember paint-a-thon. More than I had planned or expected!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C-kDUAsOLBg/XCeUJ93shhI/AAAAAAAAHoI/qtWpSJJgJm4WO_sxgVLeo53bjQ-e1vS4ACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181229_084635.jpg)

A more about that, a tally of painted minis, and other happenings/plans on my blog... https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2018/12/goodbye-deadcember-hello-owac2.html

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 31, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
Not done yet. Stayed up to stupid o'clock Saturday night drunkenly painting these last two. At least now I have the satisfaction of having the full set of minis from the Skeleton War Machines box painted now that I've completed Morbius (on the right.)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7AeZSAE76LA/XCqBNRhFm3I/AAAAAAAAHpE/ZLYEKPlDFLwTMC4qGbYeGR060Bu6Y3eLACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20181230_195628_448.jpg)

Happy, healthy, and safe New Year to all!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: DeafNala on January 01, 2019, 01:31:19 AM
AND A JOYOUS NEW YEAR TO YOU as well!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: von Lucky on January 01, 2019, 02:51:01 AM
Happy New Year, you've ended it well.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 26, 2019, 10:48:47 PM
Thanks!




I did a little prep for the first few scenarios in Rangers of Shadow Deep (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/257695/Rangers-of-Shadow-Deep-A-Tabletop-Adventure-Game). I'd like to give it a try soon. With another player (or two) if I can manage that somehow, or solo if not. Spiders (mostly repainted & based cheap Halloween toys), web markers, corpse markers, and I touched up some half painted rats from my Skaevn days.

Just a few more things to prep... a few zombies and a couple small terrain pieces/markers.


(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oVXl3FSixkk/XEzh1BtDwYI/AAAAAAAAHqk/cl2l1YO8VVMcWAYDNlt00DfIGk7jRqZyACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190126_165159.jpg)


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h7aAHPmllwI/XEzh1avJOVI/AAAAAAAAHqo/SAa02r9Z8rIGEeveuy46tF2QS69jQ-V5gCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190126_165208.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 01, 2019, 01:24:17 AM

My January Old World Army Challenge entry. Sea Elf archers and a marine bolter. Go to the OWAC site to read about them. https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2019/01/zerotwentythrees-january-sea-elves-200.html

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5qxsA0BXrZo/XFOdJt20JxI/AAAAAAAAHrg/un481jZLUAIfx_Ms0GOjulQ_esnogHpWgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190127_010056.jpg)


And more progress on the stuff for the first few Shadow Deep scenarios.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wdIBcW_J3I0/XFOeCU0gSZI/AAAAAAAAHrs/GQl1RAsOjIstckoIMwyIerUuM0IfpylrwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190129_231057.jpg)


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: Daniel36 on February 01, 2019, 01:01:02 PM
Ha, the Halloween spiders! I still have a couple of those I still haven't put unto a base yet! Cheap minis for the win!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2019, 04:30:23 AM
I've had them for years, along with some flies that may also be put to use soon.


Needed a few more bog corpses (zombies)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xVCP0MjiHu4/XFXvS62pi6I/AAAAAAAAHsE/aMJFOe8PuDsQNa5uKz93JERzoPAvyqlfQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190202_134633_449.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2019, 06:33:20 AM
Repaired a broken leg, touched up some badly chipped paint, and based this old Grenadier giant spider.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VbHSff9XPSo/XFaKfsNzbtI/AAAAAAAAHsQ/TaG8xZKgVCoF_1xtIFDHz1jTqGSL-BOVQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190203_010553.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: beefcake on February 03, 2019, 09:51:40 AM
Cool. Nice bunch there. What colours do you use for your brown (which paint I am meaning, I realise it is brown, lol)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 25, 2019, 05:15:03 AM
Cool. Nice bunch there. What colours do you use for your brown (which paint I am meaning, I realise it is brown, lol)

Which brown? (Corpses, spiders, bases?)



February has been a busy month so I've not had much time for updating or even keeping up with other people's posts & blogs. (Though I don't comment much, I read/follow a lot!) Kind of a stressful month, too. I hope I can paint a lot (and maybe some gaming...?) in March. Painting is my stress reliever -- I can use some more of it lately.

The big news is that I actually played a few games! But it doesn't exactly fit the theme of this section of the LAF, as it was 40k Kill Team. BUT, I will still sneak in one pic. Most of my 40k miniatures are long gone, and my other sci-fi stuff doesn't fit with 40k. But I did have some old converted space Skaven (spaven) tucked away in a box. I used them as a proxy for the genestealer cult. But I needed a couple of big
-guys. So I returned to a conversion from long ago, finished modeling it, and painted...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EnY9quMeHvg/XHN29ahH-XI/AAAAAAAAHv8/9NgqL1No-dgUthh-KGUrNtw7X2kTkEkuACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190220_212128.jpg)

I'll have some more fantasy stuff to post soon. I just submitted my monthly entry to the Old World Army Challenge and will share that after it's up on the OWAC blog.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: Bloggard on February 25, 2019, 08:48:23 AM
all excellent, but somehow missed that collection of skellies, which are fantastic.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: beefcake on February 25, 2019, 09:52:02 AM

Which brown? (Corpses, spiders, bases?)
The bog corpse brown.

The new guy is very cool.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: von Lucky on February 25, 2019, 12:49:50 PM
The new guy is fantastic! Such movement, such perceived weight!

And I get the stress relief thing - I painted some stuff in the last few weeks because work had gone crazy.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 28, 2019, 03:39:17 AM
The bog corpse brown.

The new guy is very cool.

They are a couple of different colors. Either GW Doombull Brown or Vallejo Model Color Leather Brown, followed by various washes (mostly GW Agrax Earthshade, the last of my Delvan Mud or one of my own concoction.)

And thanks!


The new guy is fantastic! Such movement, such perceived weight!

And I get the stress relief thing - I painted some stuff in the last few weeks because work had gone crazy.

Thanks. I'd been wanting to do this conversion since that plastic kit first came out! It seemed like a natural use of the extra parts (plus a few other bits...)

My next few weeks are going to continue to be busy and stressful. I think I need to schedule a full day off to relax & paint (and maybe even play a game!)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 28, 2019, 05:04:23 AM
My February entry in the Old World Army Challenge (https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/)!

You'll have to go to the web site to read the background. Here's some pics:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NWLonJcJIPg/XHdoV0iK9iI/AAAAAAAAHwQ/rANAS_Gqw1E4JVHNDGfhTD7xXqUbZYBHwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190224_005346.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HGoHGAMaNM0/XHdoaXCxSjI/AAAAAAAAHwU/-XShmLoCsjgg6PcBEuLFn84MDZmMEQTnwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190224_005524.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC & Shadow Deep)
Post by: Bloggard on February 28, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
love 'em.

starting to 'get' the oldhammer lurve more and more (and I was there at the time!). some of the stuff from back when does have an endearing 'character' that seems lacking these days.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 21, 2019, 05:10:50 AM
Thanks!



More recently: Trolls! I'm too lazy for even too much cutting and pasting. See the blog: https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/03/new-trolls-old-trolls.html for more info & pics.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r4Y3VZm_k8Y/XJMNBNke3wI/AAAAAAAAHzQ/GCreqAo-VSgg5GnrjgBLZEpNU5nuQ5CsgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190319_181055.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls!)
Post by: von Lucky on March 21, 2019, 12:17:20 PM
Lazy bones. They've come out more than a little alright.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls!)
Post by: boneio on March 22, 2019, 12:45:36 PM
Ooh I like those elves. They're different enough that they aren't just humans with pointy ears, without being so different as to feel overdone. I'm too young to be of the 'oldhammer' era but a lot of the older stuff is growing on me the more I see it.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC sea elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 01, 2019, 04:31:07 AM
Thanks! I really enjoyed painting those trolls and I'm really pleased to have the full set again!

16 spear elves for my OWAC sea elf force done for March. Had planned on doing shields, but need to acquire them first. That is turning out to be trickier than I had planned.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GDF7gb8knAI/XJr9CR51hrI/AAAAAAAAH1g/LP3CBcHrB_Y0z5h2BHipMuOPM3xRuprvACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190326_234203.jpg)

More words and another photo at my OWAC entry (http://"https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2019/03/zerotwentythrees-march-sea-elves-212-pts.html").

For my own personal, annual Big April challenge, the only commitment I'm making is to finish the giant I left off with last April. For the rest of the month, I'm leaving it up in the air -- though still giant related (http://"https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/03/almost-april-something-big-on-horizon.html").

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC sea elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 02, 2019, 06:08:14 AM
Been working on these three figures since the tail end of Deadcember. Snail's pace given that they're a speed-painting dream, but they're finally done.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VoY7Lb4SKLE/XKLoEPxJ4jI/AAAAAAAAH2Q/wwDNqsfJdvYVS56nM-SNt4Q_j_ovize9QCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190401_221947.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC sea elves)
Post by: beefcake on April 02, 2019, 07:18:03 AM
Very nice. I loved those old elves. So good because even though they are all single pose it makes them look all the more regimented and disciplined.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC sea elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 08, 2019, 06:43:10 AM

Thanks, I hope that once I get the shields (and the rest of the troopers!) done they'll look a bit more interesting.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! again)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 16, 2019, 03:37:09 AM
The three most recent Satyr Art Studio bog trolls have been painted!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SejEex0w7H0/XLU7cR7OK4I/AAAAAAAAH3Y/k30jOL_w0yE9w00c0TFLRGbuyr7gsDF4wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190415_220227.jpg)

Group pic with the previous sets.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-56Hi_SOFhjw/XLU7qYc4f7I/AAAAAAAAH3c/JdaQ-otZw40cxdXeBcRW39HzWLYtqpMkACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190415_220343.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! again)
Post by: LordOdo on April 16, 2019, 12:48:52 PM
Looks awesome!!

Kinda curious how (big) the forces of Marienburg and the Undead would look by now...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! again)
Post by: von Lucky on April 19, 2019, 03:20:21 AM
Lovely painting - I like the accent of the purple mushrooms.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! again)
Post by: beefcake on April 19, 2019, 07:58:20 AM
Very nice trolls. keep it up!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! again)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 21, 2019, 06:03:13 PM
Thanks!

Kinda curious how (big) the forces of Marienburg and the Undead would look by now...

I'm kind of curious too. I should get them out for a photoshoot. Or better yet, an actual GAME.  lol




Giant & troll. More pics & info on the website: https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/04/big-april-19.html

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UDM-ZVQbP68/XLyeQHGT8hI/AAAAAAAAH4M/5FQY3rc1zxwF1JZ3gelK9ggHkUKJdpg8QCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190421_003502.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i1d1eejDHew/XLyfzV9FBRI/AAAAAAAAH4s/XGJ5P6ILOT0W4reEmaoH9Y62kcKFIeT3wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190420_215525.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! again)
Post by: beefcake on April 21, 2019, 08:42:45 PM
Wow. Noce to see the heresy giant finished. Looks great, any chance of some close upshe unfortunate victim?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 29, 2019, 02:38:06 AM
Wow. Noce to see the heresy giant finished. Looks great, any chance of some close upshe unfortunate victim?

Thanks. Hard to get a clear shot, but here's a couple.

Photo of all the painted (so far) giants on my blog: https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/04/giants-to-sea-elves.html

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6DrFF6ccLeY/XMYlAGWPYCI/AAAAAAAAH5o/DWyarsUaemEmqIQP1j933HhdlM7xUvh7ACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190426_221235.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ILcsg7TF1as/XMYlFyw1-sI/AAAAAAAAH5s/rGFpSMViyagGrKSA5OWdQ9a2k-FzsdfDwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190426_221254.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: LordOdo on April 29, 2019, 01:36:41 PM
Your collection of giants is inspiring... I suddenly feel the pain of not having a giant myself..
Which one is your favourite?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: von Lucky on May 03, 2019, 10:21:24 PM
Nice detail painting on him.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: robh on May 03, 2019, 10:28:01 PM
Great job on that monster giant.  He is another amazing sculpt from Andy.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: beefcake on May 03, 2019, 11:32:13 PM
Thanks for that (also realised my last post was riddled with errors lol ). The close ups are awesome. Nice creaming face on the victim. I thought I had a lot of giants! but you outstretch me! Funnily enough I think I only have 3 that you have, many of mine are either old grenadier or reaper bones.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 05, 2019, 06:05:09 AM
Your collection of giants is inspiring... I suddenly feel the pain of not having a giant myself..
Which one is your favourite?

Every time I talk about one of the giants, I seem to refer to it as "one of my favorites" -- so it's hard to pick! There's quite a bit of variety, and I like them all for different reasons.

I think the Giants of Albion are among my favorites. I like the proportions and expressions. The Warploque giant is a favorite for similar reasons, but scaled up. His pose and details are really fun, too. Similarly, I think the Tom Meier/Ral Partha (frost?) giant in front of those three (black beard, casually striding forward) has similar proportions, and is wonderfully posed. In a completely different style, I really like the Reaper fire giant, painted in grey tones next to the skeletal giants. The one I painted is in cast in Bones material. As nice as it looks,  I wish I had bought the metal one i even just for the bendy spear issue. (I did get the new, super-sized Bones version of her, too -- I hope it lives up to my expectations based on the small version. I'm thinking about cutting out the spear and replacing it with brass or plastic rod.)

See, now I'm just starting to work my way through all of them. I'll leave it at that, but repeat that I think they're all great models. lol



Great job on that monster giant.  He is another amazing sculpt from Andy.

This is the first Heresy figure I've painted, I've had a lot of his figures on my "wish list."  It looks like he's got a lot of great stuff, but I'm particularly fond of his monsters, large and small.


Thanks for that (also realised my last post was riddled with errors lol ). The close ups are awesome. Nice creaming face on the victim.

Umm, on the topic of errors....  lol

But yes, the expression of victim is great. It's a detail you can only see from certain angles. I like to say that art (of all types) is meant to be experienced in person. Having 360 degree access to a miniature like this helps appreciate all the work a sculptor put into the details.


I thought I had a lot of giants! but you outstretch me! Funnily enough I think I only have 3 that you have, many of mine are either old grenadier or reaper bones.

I have one Bones in that photo, and four more waiting to be painted. I used to have the Grenadier fire giant (the one wearing armour & helmet, wielding an axe), but foolishly traded him away in my youth 25+ years ago... There so many I could still collect and paint, old and new!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: beefcake on May 05, 2019, 09:16:03 AM
Wow, that was a bad mistake that time, or good depending on your point of view.
I'm pretty sure I have the one you are describing. Nice mini it is. I like all the old grenadier giants.

I think I might put a disclaimer in my signature saying "typed but not proofread".
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: Metternich on May 27, 2019, 05:51:54 PM
That giant is just stupendous !  Great shot.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: thebinmann on May 27, 2019, 05:57:56 PM
Stunning Giant, love the toe and finger nails...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Trolls! Heresy giant!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 05, 2019, 05:15:14 AM
Thanks!


I've been neglecting the forums lately. Work got extremely busy, I've had to travel a lot the past two months, and I've had a lot of overtime, late nights, etc. I'm hoping things return to normal soon.

I've (barely) managed to keep up with the Old World Army Challenge, and finished my final entry -- for June.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CY-3F4qxfZI/XRkEAQTKrCI/AAAAAAAAH9U/qA3ErxDFtbgQwiuNS75yG0QqwFFgvgOiQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190630_131210.jpg)

More words and photos at the site: https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2019/07/zerotwentythrees-june-sea-elves-316-pts.html

I'll be posting a fully army shot & OWAC wrap-up soon. I think I missed sharing my last entry -- it's also on the OWAC, as are a lot of other great oldschool WFB armies.

For a change of pace, I'm thinking about painting an old dragon. I stripped some of my old ones a while ago. Here's my available options:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h8bTPHkcS7E/XR2PjHEpbFI/AAAAAAAAH-Y/lII5d2gwlxc-ktvmnuHJYxuOmC5Y9r53gCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190703_223142.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l39qIi4WfE0/XR2Pl3CJ6xI/AAAAAAAAH-c/ZVe-YK4nrK8n5jqs_LxUpBxEKdQneb7VACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190703_223305.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC Sea Elves)
Post by: Mallo on July 05, 2019, 11:43:40 AM
Great stuff, that Elven chariot looks superb
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC Sea Elves)
Post by: Elk101 on July 05, 2019, 09:37:20 PM
Nice Marsh troll in the background.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (OWAC Sea Elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 22, 2019, 06:28:23 AM
Nice Marsh troll in the background.

Thank you. You are the only one to comment on that intentional irregularity.  ;)



Still waffling on the dragon(s). But I painted some more hobbits...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yb7n_k_LuPc/XTQHSqhpKII/AAAAAAAAIA0/UqBd5FmD45IDOgLcH-xTCB-7lrPYWiHVgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190721_021429.jpg)

And put together my first Oathmark human, which will be the start of a small faction (very) similar to the half orc faction I've been painting the past few years. In fact, I plan on having enough human bandits/rebels/rough mercenaries to combine into a single large army.... if they could ever be united.   ;)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cM4F7W-fxxk/XTTZJp93ylI/AAAAAAAAIBA/GS-OkG9-sqUGQdx0ecIu6sLLCwgVJaEEgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190721_172317.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: blacksoilbill on July 22, 2019, 02:05:47 PM
I'd never really looked at the Oathmark humans very closely, but he does look perfect for that kind of bandit role. I shall have to investigate further! Those hobbits look great: full of character.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 28, 2019, 07:43:24 AM
Thank you!

I experimentally put together some more Oathmark humans. Ten total so far. I mixed in some Citadel bits on half of them (mostly heads). I tried out the advice in the replies from the last entry on my blog. I ended up cutting the bases completely off because it was fairly clean & easy. I went with the Citadel beveled bases because they then fit pretty cleanly on those, and also I'm out of my home-made bases and don't have the patience to wait to cut them. ;) But the Citadel bases also help give a little extra height to the minis.

At any rate, the bits mostly mixed well (just a little neck trimming) and they rank up better than I had thought they would! I'm thinking if I pick up a second box, I can field two regiments of 25 melee troops, plus 10 archers. A good core for a small bandit/rebel/militia/whatever force.


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wd0h4f6dyDc/XT1BVYnC6XI/AAAAAAAAIBo/wrA9hZeWQ5QXDn6dgeobPOoQWoFrULVxgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190728_020651.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6bGaT8JY-W0/XT1BZX2-yqI/AAAAAAAAIBs/x3KET7Ms4msRiKqmyZYIWAgejc3FXvC9wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190728_020610.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: bazookajoe on July 28, 2019, 04:12:47 PM
Love the figures.  Additions of GW bits also look very good.  I am not a big fan of the shields, though. 
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: Grumbledook on July 28, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
Wonderful work, and I love those hobbits! Where are they from?

The Oathmark minis look interesting, particularly with the alternative heads, I’m looking to get a box of their Dwarves out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 29, 2019, 06:06:02 AM
Love the figures.  Additions of GW bits also look very good.  I am not a big fan of the shields, though. 

The shields seem pretty divisive. When the figures first came out I knew I would eventually get some, and my initial plan was to replace the shields with round ones. But after ruminating on it for a while, I decided to use the rectangular shields for a different look than usual.

They remind me of the shields that come with some of Foundry's ancient Germans. I may even paint some ancient German/Gallic animal designed on them. They also look a bit like flattened Roman scuta, which evolved through a number of forms, both oval and rectangular, flat and curved. (But AFAIK never had the flat + rectangle combo.)


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yziCKq0YlOo/Sk5l5qkndBI/AAAAAAAAAYA/N5MOXd_uZ_I/s1600-h/gerinf4.jpg)

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yziCKq0YlOo/Sk5l5qkndBI/AAAAAAAAAYA/N5MOXd_uZ_I/s1600-h/gerinf4.jpg

Plus, I'm using ancient Germans (including some with similar shields) as the Undeadish -- corrupted bandits & mountain folk. So it works for me in an unexpected way.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U1wM6kEglFc/VSQPPEVhRMI/AAAAAAAAAuk/Y730FkbJXE0/s1600/undeadish01.jpg)


Wonderful work, and I love those hobbits! Where are they from?

The Oathmark minis look interesting, particularly with the alternative heads, I’m looking to get a box of their Dwarves out of curiosity.


Thanks! With the exception of the lass on the far right (from Reaper) the hobbits are from Westfalia Miniatures. I've painted & posted pics of some of their other hobbits in past updates.

I really like the look of all of the kits from Oathmark so far, with the possible exception of the dwarf heavy infantry. Hardly an original idea, but I keep thinking about small scale skirmishes in the First Age of Middle Earth/Beleriand using mostly Oathmark.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: von Lucky on July 29, 2019, 12:49:13 PM
Some very nice progress in the last page or so - keep it up!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 12, 2019, 06:17:43 AM
The more of them I put together, the more I'm good with the rectangular shields. They've really grown on me, and seeing a unit put together looks good.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aZdEtQ4FeHY/XUj1t4pcVrI/AAAAAAAAICg/M5Ozt332riMoVVcl4VjEg2p9DCgcgl9-gCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190803_194755.jpg)

Hey.... also, I played some games (of some sort....)

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/08/of-grill-elemental-evil-and-even-more.html

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbits; Oathmark humans)
Post by: von Lucky on August 12, 2019, 02:40:40 PM
Hah! You need a unicorn for the army now.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 03, 2019, 03:23:33 AM
It's been a good holiday weekend. Weather didn't completely cooperate, but for the most part things went well. I got some work done around the house, barbecued some chicken, and enjoyed some down time with my family.

I also got a bit of personal/hobby time in. First off, I painted the Witch Hunter, and started putting a bit of paint on his next few followers.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JUpJp9T-OHo/XW3GKn0l31I/AAAAAAAAIIU/TN3Wv7kz_HAGfQlcYtX79t5FTHLCV7jtQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190902_104624.jpg)

I hung a new light to brighten the little corner of the cellar that I paint in. It's almost too much light! When I turn my old task light on at the desk, it doesn't make much of a difference, and in fact casts a bit of a shadow. Things may get rearranged. This also may happen because...

I also made a new 3x3 game board. Hopefully I will get to use it for some small skirmish gaming, like Rangers of Shadow Deep. But I also wanted someplace better to take photos of figures. It took a few days (mostly waiting for glue/paint to dry) but the actual work that went into it was brief and easy. The new board matches the larger table/boards I've currently got in storage.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-06ug2VhEv4o/XW3IVj4UWdI/AAAAAAAAIIg/P-z4mMm09k4nQzA54zfbjQmfHFcwN5eiACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190901_192456.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-biVm3h7GRM0/XW3IcuQOg7I/AAAAAAAAIIk/CUaywfk7va8w4hJoX7JB44ekcRVCqIZXwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190902_201303.jpg)


I threw together a makeshift backdrop and tested out a few angles for photos to see if the lighting will work.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hvjOB5_n_Lo/XW3IrssBS7I/AAAAAAAAIIs/5aq722-1nV8njov-R_PKhwYdgwo5YdoVQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190902_201254.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MgVdPfqZ_Yw/XW3IruF2_yI/AAAAAAAAIIw/n5yhFPml6SoYoaHBEFB3luQBXsQlVkfJgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190902_201328.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UD6bIHM47UI/XW3Irja9cXI/AAAAAAAAIIo/dhu0BIfaFNclRkI9ejHtJcEAIuB-CkSUwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190902_201340.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: Bloggard on September 03, 2019, 09:40:31 AM
all looking fantastic.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: Duncan McDane on September 03, 2019, 11:39:13 AM
Brute! The axehead on the Orc, that's from a bloodthister? It' seems he knows his way with it  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 03, 2019, 11:52:02 PM
Yes. He is The Khorc.

 lol

I've had a half-baked attempt at converting a Bloodthirster into something resembling one of my favorite Dragon Magazine covers (#119) (http://theotherside.timsbrannan.com/2017/06/this-old-dragon-issue-119.html) sitting around for years. So the Former-'thirster no longer needed an axe.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: Elbows on September 04, 2019, 04:29:58 AM
Love seeing this thread pop up.  One of my favourites.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: von Lucky on September 06, 2019, 12:35:19 PM
Lovely photos, backdrop gets a thumbs up.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 12, 2019, 03:43:19 PM
Thank you!


Been painting more of the armed mob for the witch hunter. I think this is all the rabble I have for now, unless I can unearth some more. I do have some others that were previously painted, to bulk up the numbers a little bit more.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OwEOZ5vrnAo/XXpXBXBtamI/AAAAAAAAIKU/63F5cdbwIro9wXR6_3BTl0yIIaKfchmngCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190912_102632_486_20190912102852818.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: jon_1066 on September 13, 2019, 03:26:00 PM
Nothing helps identify witches like bagpipes!  Only witches can stand the infernal screaming hence the well known test (alongside the usual dunking stools, etc).  Tie the supposed witch to a chair then subject them to bagpipes for an extended period.  If they go mad then they are not a witch, if they don't go mad they are clearly possessed and should be burnt at the stake.

Great looking mob.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 21, 2019, 10:46:55 PM

 lol


I'm contemplating starting some painting on a old-planned Eclectic Meat-hating Robot Pirates project.

Here's some of what I've acquired so far...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cdzxhuOT2qo/XYWbMgMMg5I/AAAAAAAAIKs/Jg4rqIN5-OQFiMGuFzh4e1tAcNNxDtfWACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190918_002150_446_20190918132237067.jpg)

And because every crew of misanthropic pirate robots needs flying robot monkeys, I picked up a pack of these...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-goyf1OUMOfo/XYWbUkq0SBI/AAAAAAAAIKw/Mh6Q2yK6Ew0RTAZlPR3fl2q9MLOgt1d1gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190920_184748_178.jpg)

They're Reaper Bones, but look like they've got pretty good detail for small figures. I may get a second pack so I can have a small squad of 5-6. I suppose if I go forward with this, I'll have to start a separate post in the sci-fi board...  ;)



Hey! I recall people expressing interest in the bog trolls I painted a while ago. FYI Satyr Art Studios is having a great sale on the figures right now: https://satyrartstudio.ecwid.com/
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: von Lucky on September 22, 2019, 03:38:39 AM
Nice one - separate thread as some people like to stick to one historical time period ;)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 24, 2019, 05:03:00 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ROodEBjFti4/XYo9CJEWVNI/AAAAAAAAILA/Us-HB-dqvTUJff89OFqs4A_IjvPv18JoACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190923_230709_20190923231750212.jpg)

Painted some tiny freehand for the first time in a while. This was my little moment of stress relief during a very difficult day. (I need more painting in my life, for that reason....)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on September 24, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Damn, but that is some beautiful painting on that sea elf!

I can completely relate to the stress relief from painting, I use it that way too. There’s something about getting into the flow on a figure I enjoy to take my mind toward good (or at least better places).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: von Lucky on September 25, 2019, 02:50:38 PM
Damn that is nice.

And we had that in the news the other day:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-24/art-therapy-heals-war-veteran-with-post-tramatic-stress-disorder/11537026
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on September 25, 2019, 02:58:54 PM
Love that shield  :-* Nice design and very well done. Over the years I've painted a lot of nautical nonsense but I don't think I've ever done a lobster before, may have to steal your idea and try that sometime in the future
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: MagpieJono on September 25, 2019, 07:22:09 PM
That level of freehand is outstanding. Nice one.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 26, 2019, 03:19:15 AM
Thank you!


Damn that is nice.

And we had that in the news the other day:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-24/art-therapy-heals-war-veteran-with-post-tramatic-stress-disorder/11537026

Thank you for sharing that! I don't have PTSD, just an unusual amount of stress lately. I'm going to share the article with a couple of people I know who do have PTSD. And the relaxing effect discussed in the article is just what I was getting at.


Love that shield  :-* Nice design and very well done. Over the years I've painted a lot of nautical nonsense but I don't think I've ever done a lobster before, may have to steal your idea and try that sometime in the future

Thanks. I do plan on some more typical nautical themes, an geometric designs. For some reason I was thinking the shape of the shield would suit a lobster, and I like that it's turned out colorful & quirky.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on September 26, 2019, 06:14:47 AM
Brilliant painting! Much respect for your freehand skills, and a touch of envy.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Hobgoblin on September 26, 2019, 07:39:06 AM
That's a tremendous bit of heraldry. Brilliant!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: von Lucky on September 26, 2019, 11:46:50 AM
Thank you for sharing that! I don't have PTSD, just an unusual amount of stress lately.

I figured. I was discussing this with a friend a couple of weeks ago - and how both of us like painting to de-stress. So it's definitely a thing.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: LazyStudent on September 26, 2019, 04:48:25 PM
Incredible free hand! I am envious of your skill. I struggle with simple geometric shapes!  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Thew1 on September 28, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
Stunning free-hand lobster Sir! It's been too long since I last looked at the Marienburg vs the livingly challenged thread. I see you've been pretty busy in the interim. Will the elf unit all get similar nautical themed heraldry?  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: majorsmith on September 28, 2019, 10:20:10 AM
Great looking elf! That shields lovely
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 28, 2019, 11:26:29 PM
Stunning free-hand lobster Sir! It's been too long since I last looked at the Marienburg vs the livingly challenged thread. I see you've been pretty busy in the interim. Will the elf unit all get similar nautical themed heraldry?  :-*

They will be a mix of typical elven designs, nautical/aquatic, and geometric designs. I don't plan on painting them all free hand, so I'm still looking for more of the embossed elven shields from GW.




These last few sea elves added to the 28 I painted in the OWAC earlier this year will allow me to split them into two regiments of 16 if I want to. I just need to paint the banners (and shields, as mentioned above)...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XgT4zPCkMc4/XY-7KPm4ezI/AAAAAAAAILc/UHW4lQLDv6o4mOtYuHeI2PlPi7G3DSqqgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190928_120315.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Thew1 on September 29, 2019, 10:22:07 AM
Well they are looking superb. Thanks for sharing. I have recently been looking out my old 90s era high elves and this is great inspiration to push me on with the repainting. I don't think I have any spare embossed shields unfortunately but will double check the bitz-box and let you know if I find anything.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 30, 2019, 11:24:28 PM
Thanks!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rrTX_tHCQ3g/XZGCbB8XnaI/AAAAAAAAILs/c32ofpKNLToN4Yc3qPTkAjQzWGV7Ve6uQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190929_235624_820.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 01, 2019, 12:05:13 AM
That is a very cool banner! The jellyfish is a motif i’ve never seen on heraldry before, but it fits and, oddly, gives me a 3rd Edition- Oldhammer vibe.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 02, 2019, 04:15:15 AM
Finished the last details and base on the happy-go-lucky sea elf prince who gave up his claim to the throne to his equally well meaning cousin, then sailed the seas of fate, promoting peace, carrying with him the healing boon of the white sword...

Re-purposed classic figure to fit into the sea elf force I painted for the Old World Army Challenge

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7WSuc7T2s90/XZQVVg0F5fI/AAAAAAAAIMY/XlmBEUoRxfsgHE_oL6Z23yhKhbs7cOObACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191001_224705_627_20191001224754934.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: beefcake on October 02, 2019, 08:20:16 AM
Yes. He is The Khorc.

 lol

I've had a half-baked attempt at converting a Bloodthirster into something resembling one of my favorite Dragon Magazine covers (#119) (http://theotherside.timsbrannan.com/2017/06/this-old-dragon-issue-119.html) sitting around for years. So the Former-'thirster no longer needed an axe.

Oh, I have a copy of that miniature. Can't remember who the company was but it was sculpted by Paul Meuler. The company has since gone defunct though and I don't know who has the rights. I may have a pic here of him painted up.

Found the link,  (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/138453512/infernal-minions-of-the-outer-planes/description) Go all the way down the bottom of the page and start scrolling up. Look for Koscheii.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Thew1 on October 03, 2019, 04:09:24 PM
Beautiful work! Love it. Also like the seashell scenery you snuck into the background there as well.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Pil on October 03, 2019, 07:49:33 PM
I only skimmed through the last few pages but this is a lovely thread. I especially like the high elves. The lobster shield is fantastic!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Cubs on October 04, 2019, 12:49:13 PM
I always felt Sea Elves never really got a fair crack of the whip with Warhammer. These guys are great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Witch Hunter & New Board)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 04, 2019, 06:21:45 PM
Thank you everyone!

Oh, I have a copy of that miniature. Can't remember who the company was but it was sculpted by Paul Meuler. The company has since gone defunct though and I don't know who has the rights. I may have a pic here of him painted up.

Found the link,  (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/138453512/infernal-minions-of-the-outer-planes/description) Go all the way down the bottom of the page and start scrolling up. Look for Koscheii.

Thanks! I've never seen that before.


I always felt Sea Elves never really got a fair crack of the whip with Warhammer. These guys are great.

After painting my pitifuly few Marauder sea elves, I've had a few thoughts about trying to do a small fan/hobbyist-run project (KS?) to do a small set of retro sea elves to match, since I really wish the range was a little larger and they weren't so difficult to get. I know there have been other small scale productions of retro inspired figures, so it may be worth a shot. I'd just need to work out a plan & funding...

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 04, 2019, 06:22:19 PM
Whoops... Also, Orctober is upon us! Or half-Orctober in my case.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IkqTe7NrNf8/XZGC0aHiUZI/AAAAAAAAIL0/-0ZnVQEjHJgLzYRZvB0lj6NBq1uWyEbngCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20190928_194348_654.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Sea Elf)
Post by: Elk101 on October 04, 2019, 06:31:45 PM
I always felt Sea Elves never really got a fair crack of the whip with Warhammer. These guys are great.

I completely agree with that. Great seeing these elves again, especially with such lovely paintjobs. That freehand is tremendous.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 08, 2019, 05:18:56 AM
Thank you!




Painted the first 10 of 25 half-orcs for Orctober!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xCqMO_3I0e8/XZwMFX6aeQI/AAAAAAAAIN8/2SYc43PTKU4deCKB5uWa5MAqXcGGurXCgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191007_233512_20191008000826071.jpg)


I rearranged a bit in the corner of the basement where I paint and photograph. I moved a really bright suspended LED fixture that I recently installed across the room and swapped it with the one near my photo table. Also put it in a slightly better position. This one is brighter and a warmer color.

I had recently draped a sheet of greenish "teddy bear fur” that I won a few years ago over the storage boxes on the ledge behind the table. But as the weather is getting colder, I'm concerned that we will get mice moving into the basement (as has happened the past few years) and I was worried that I was creating a nice nesting spot for them. So the fur backdrop is now suspended from a bit of PVC pipe that is in turn suspended from a water pipe. On my to do list is making some larger trees for the background (and possible future gaming).


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PDLSFSRtJfU/XZrDjtNE1KI/AAAAAAAAIM8/Nn9Ty7eT1-gMh_eWdKjh5YbOXbzR8aYfACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191006_172732.jpg)



I unpacked the Undeadish (or at least most of what's painted so far) for some test photos to see how the lighting would work.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5iLer7M5rj8/XZrD5wlP3BI/AAAAAAAAINM/zTL-60gakuEEgw-yRDtBSX-giJbpr8QeACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191006_133208.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xHHexlI6d9Y/XZrD5zFuncI/AAAAAAAAINI/NmfsYqY-QtAMpIqWjN7PqGlMYnyf5yUjgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191006_133220.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7vqq7imKvLw/XZrD5-lUc_I/AAAAAAAAINQ/aIYUhoUyIUMmmiMDl2WF6WWu5RiK5exQgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191006_133226.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BIT8NG2bXQ8/XZrD6ecIWLI/AAAAAAAAINU/midUUKjEQ1Mw09FN5jfZpxJ5U6bKiesowCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191006_133235.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: beefcake on October 08, 2019, 10:25:39 AM
Nice lineup of the undeadish.
I love the half orcs too. The pike conversions have worked well!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 13, 2019, 04:54:18 AM
Nice lineup of the undeadish.
I love the half orcs too. The pike conversions have worked well!

Thanks! I don't have any use for the pike, but thought I'd see if it was possible to convert some to match (or close enough) the original sword & shield guys. I think the 3 with sword & shield turned out well. (Painting those now.) Less pleased with the 2 with two-handed choppers. (In the pic above.)

This regiment is the last of the unpaited half orcs, and its good to feel like I'm completimg something. But I already  think I'd like to get another 10 archers to round out the force.  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: Brandlin on October 13, 2019, 10:18:53 AM
Love those Grenadier Half Orcs.
Some of my favourite figures.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 19, 2019, 03:17:52 PM

I agree! They are really nice sculpts. I like a lot of the old Fantasy Warriors figures.


Took a little longer, but I finished the second ten (in front) half orcs. Three of the new ones were converted from pikemen using plastic Skaven swords and borrowed shields. Just five more to paint...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QpHIhBJlH-Q/XasaF9jLJzI/AAAAAAAAIOk/yKunoSzwl5Y_ul-1RwV7-0MQ16qbHSZdQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191019_003732.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: Brandlin on October 19, 2019, 03:23:00 PM
I agree! They are really nice sculpts. I like a lot of the old Fantasy Warriors figures.

yup I have orcs goblins and dwraves - they're my "obsession"*



* For mild definitions of obsession
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 23, 2019, 05:04:41 AM


yup I have orcs goblins and dwraves - they're my "obsession"*

* For mild definitions of obsession

 lol



Finished my Orctober (Half-Orctober) goal a week early. 24 Grenadier/Mirliton half-orcs, with an oldschool Ctiadel figure mixed in to round the regiment to 25.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hi0KEgfvsC0/Xa_NhRuUksI/AAAAAAAAIPg/LSSEGrpmaBY8mLS2TAxpsUNVoAuKFzHAgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191022_225741_20191022232135475.jpg)



Time for a group photo!

Along with the completion of my Orctober/Half-Orctober '19 goal, that also finishes the half-orc project. At least in terms of figures I already owned & planned (for several years now) to paint & form a small contingent for gaming. (Should I ever get the chance to play games again.) A really enjoyable project! As nice as it is to feel a sense of completion, I'm already thinking 10 more archers would be a good addition. And my eyes will be open for more/new opportunities to add to this. But for now I'm done. 😁

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0ts-MbJMHAw/Xa_Nvmce_0I/AAAAAAAAIPk/gfVlJAcT5aw90_GZPzJKqZhDOYn5eu3fgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191022_225758.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 23, 2019, 10:08:19 AM
Great stuff - they look more than ready to kill the odd Theodred or necessitate the scouring of a Shire or two!

I think your standard bearer is a Grenadier "war ogre (http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Fantasy_Lords_-_Second_Series#024)".
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: Swordisdrawn on October 23, 2019, 12:14:30 PM
The grenadier half orcs look brilliant
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: beefcake on October 24, 2019, 05:21:05 AM
Love it!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Half-Orcs & Undeadish)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 26, 2019, 01:27:52 AM
Thanks!  :D

Old mini, new photo. Fried, the psychedelic half-orc shaman/mycologist. Mycomancer? Pronounced "Freed" - short for Friedrich.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qucSaKa1R-k/XbOO1f55UNI/AAAAAAAAIQE/D9HSKxLttl04dtLfxamJ8nV4Df1DMkWfgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191025_180145.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 27, 2019, 09:41:36 PM
I've wanted this old Citadel goblin shaman since I saw it WD as a kid. When it appeared for sale on FB recently, I had to have it! And paint it! 30+ years I waited...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J1M0xm3hGy4/XbYN05OH1SI/AAAAAAAAIQk/WlTwEKS2cWEMjLUoLb1u_oMnkK3mSbrGgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191027_153718.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: Padrissimus on October 27, 2019, 10:10:17 PM
Is he doing an Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull) stage pose? But with a skull-topped wand instead of a flute?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 27, 2019, 10:14:16 PM
Is he doing an Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull) stage pose? But with a skull-topped wand instead of a flute?

 lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: AKULA on October 27, 2019, 10:44:00 PM
Great photos, particularly like the undeadish

 8)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 31, 2019, 04:18:20 AM
Thank you!



Prepping a few things for the painting queue...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DNRaYbB4znU/Xbo8fE2gvWI/AAAAAAAAIRI/EXxOqXp32lcb9UZohx4VdW4rMOEqfiQgACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191028_174041.jpg)

More at: https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/10/prepping-bones.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: jon_1066 on October 31, 2019, 11:31:38 AM
Is he doing an Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull) stage pose? But with a skull-topped wand instead of a flute?

Based upon GW at the time I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the inspiration.

Nice painting as usual!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (goblin shaman)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 12, 2019, 04:57:24 AM
A bit behind in posting, but Deadcember started strong (for all of two or three days), then stalled as the real world of work/career swiped away all my free time again...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IOgsCfluTyE/Xeykvo2d71I/AAAAAAAAIUo/fIAMVLQ-N4IW5v1gMt747evaZZadYV1hgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191205_234336_586.jpg)


The remainder of my Deadcember plans. A bit optimistic since I just got back from another unexpected work trip.  ::)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Damm1TT3LYI/Xeyk-Wxsq_I/AAAAAAAAIUs/vlohjVmqyysIEglBBcATYJz4T04ZDz-ewCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191207_170648_197.jpg)

Two dragons, undead Lemmy, 25 armored skeleton spear, and as many cavalry as I can repair & paint by the end of the year.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: AKULA on December 14, 2019, 07:39:45 PM
That undead dragon is  :-*
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: Maddoc on December 16, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
..small?


No, not that.. what's the opposite of small?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 27, 2019, 12:53:53 AM
...and done.

Big boney dragon done. The gravestone is on a magnetized 20mm base, and can be removed and replaced with other figures... Like the Undead Lenny I'm working on next.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-erH3ffGZEOg/XgUdAfqiGSI/AAAAAAAAIVo/f53xz7BfxNMlEOejBHHtDkv2xd3JGIQ0ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191225_193513.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: beefcake on December 27, 2019, 08:15:56 AM
Nice. I love skeletons how quick they can be painted but how good it still looks when you do so. Love the work on the basing as well. Interesting but not overshadowing the dragon. Is that a reaper one?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: Padrissimus on December 27, 2019, 10:24:21 AM
I like how you can see its cute little babies behind it!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: Mallo on December 28, 2019, 11:34:37 AM
Superb collection of boney creatures!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 29, 2019, 03:03:31 AM

Thank you!

Nice. I love skeletons how quick they can be painted but how good it still looks when you do so. Love the work on the basing as well. Interesting but not overshadowing the dragon. Is that a reaper one?

Yes, Reaper from the last Bones KS. (As are all the smaller creatures in the background -- posted earlier this month.) My first thought was actually to go crazy with terrain & details on the base, but ended up trying to keep it toned toned down. All of that stone was integral to the figure. I did build up the base & texture over some of the stone to try to reduce it's impact. With the dragon being so monotone, I didn't want to overwhelm it.


Just finished Undead Lemmy from Diehard Miniatures. Difficult miniatuere to photograph since I mostly painted him with a variety (hues?) of black.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WjTZ9ZH4_Ic/XggUwmKPbUI/AAAAAAAAIWI/XlHGu8QsOnw2-uej8iZmrjWRySUbdGbnwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191228_203040_20191228210837529%2B%25281%2529.jpg)


And here he is with And here he is in the magnetized spot with the dragon. I'll need to come up with a name for the dragon... likely lift one from a song lyric of title! (Not a great photo either, got a mix of light temperatures and couldn't correct it in my photo app...)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N_DEO3kkDp8/XggVJCgUiaI/AAAAAAAAIWQ/FaN2KnqKviUMLSqwLpqefg0rj4tTp2ddwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20191228_203215%2B%25281%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: Dr Mathias on December 29, 2019, 04:00:37 AM
Just finished Undead Lemmy from Diehard Miniatures. Difficult miniatuere to photograph since I mostly painted him with a variety (hues?) of black.

That guitar looks great, love the varnished wood effect!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 30, 2019, 03:55:16 AM
Thanks!


Posted my year end wrap-up a few days early.

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/12/2019-wrap-up.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: von Lucky on December 30, 2019, 04:19:32 AM
Yes, you nailed it. Well done.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 02, 2020, 03:55:24 AM
Goat riding hobbit sorceress, from Westfalia. Another difficult figure to photograph!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t9tRyt8IWDQ/Xg1nvdNKtyI/AAAAAAAAIXE/Ggn3O3SlBOEU67COT1FP875moilEYDWygCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200101_220420_932.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goat Riding Hobbit Sorceress)
Post by: von Lucky on January 04, 2020, 09:12:55 PM
Nice work nonetheless. The gems in particular. And is that a custom tuft in the front?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goat Riding Hobbit Sorceress)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 05, 2020, 05:34:42 AM
Nice work nonetheless. The gems in particular. And is that a custom tuft in the front?

Thank you. I am a student of the 'Eavy Metal school of gem painting.  lol

The flowery tufts on all my minis the past couple of years are from a sample pack from http://shadowsedgeminis.com/ that had something like 8 different colors included and I'm running out. But I've been extremely happy with them and need to order full packs of several of my favorite colors. (Sounds like an advert, but honestly just an endorsement for something I bought & liked.)


A contrast to the previous hobbit -- One a member of civilized and courtly society, the other a spirit of wild nature. This second one is from Reaper. This mage may hitch a ride with her animal companion for short sprints around the battlefield, but might not be the standard sort of cavalry. Both intended to function as mounted spellcasters from a gaming standpoint.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7eOYFFo74-k/XhFVh0PSj2I/AAAAAAAAIXs/zT5zFrLHnNISYTrzjNr7sipRPuVd1J-MgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200104_143558_683.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goat Riding Hobbit Sorceress)
Post by: Mallo on January 05, 2020, 11:28:20 AM
Love the goat rider. The gem is indeed fantastic!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Hobbit & Troll spellcasters)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 08, 2020, 06:06:50 AM
Thank you!


Continuing to wrap up half finished figures from last year when I should be focusing on painting the wood elves I'm doing for the Old World Army Challenge this year! (I am making progress on the elves...)

Troll shaman by Artizan Designs, from North Star. I previously posted a comparison shot -- this troll is a little smaller than the Satyr & Marauder trolls, but given that he's squatting and I imagine trolls as being heterogeneous in size and shape (as humans are) I think this is within reason.

Not the best painting -- I think I'd choose a different color palette if I were to do it again.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QRTv36W4Ycc/XhVpRTQByZI/AAAAAAAAIYM/t59win4MVOYWAeMFEp0sZGLe47BM0Q_-wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200107_190033_974.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 28, 2020, 04:58:47 AM
The 2020 Old World Army Challenge is ON. Pics and words about my January entry here:

https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/01/zerotwentythrees-january-wood-elves-278.html

I got more than expected done in January, which is just what I needed to pick me up from a disappointing December. I had planned on painting a unit of archers, but ended up with...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_6E9dIULr2w/Xi-2jemX68I/AAAAAAAAIas/e0h7BFjnl1I7nzQfMO9wxgeA-eBGDOBAACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200126_195418.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: Pinguinbaer on January 28, 2020, 09:31:06 AM
Wow, those are wonderfull miniatures! I really like your color scheme. Probably I have to get my tree huggers out of the box to paint them...  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: von Lucky on January 28, 2020, 09:40:19 AM
Well done!

What is a harp but a multi-stringed bow? Pragmatic, yo. (I also loled at your beast master/bear write up.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: guitarheroandy on January 28, 2020, 12:43:56 PM
Love the darker scheme on those Elves - gritty and makes them seem more dangerous (even if the harp thing does make one feel that, on the whole, they'd rather be singing...)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: von Lucky on January 29, 2020, 09:11:03 AM
Stop that, stop that! You're not going to do a song while I'm here. Now listen lad, in twenty minutes you're getting married to a girl whose father owns the biggest tracts of open land in Britain.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: Maddoc on January 29, 2020, 12:42:47 PM
Stop that, stop that! You're not going to do a song while I'm here. Now listen lad, in twenty minutes you're getting married to a girl whose father owns the biggest tracts of open land in Britain.

But I don't want land, I want Marauder Elves!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 31, 2020, 12:19:44 AM
 lol Thanks for the laughs!

I will have to keep the idea of the harp as a weapon in mind too. Warharp? Repeating shortbow?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: Gallahad on February 01, 2020, 07:56:38 PM
Lovely old school elves! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Wood Elves & a Tree)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 02, 2020, 11:26:47 PM
I actually played a game. Just a small one. Finally tried a solo game of Dragon Rampant.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q4gaZXoSbpI/XjZW_zRQ7JI/AAAAAAAAIb8/66K85uUjDQYW2ykOljvxH8dwngMz_VXtQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200201_183841_20200201213311057.jpg)

More on my blog... https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2020/02/ambushed-by-trolls-preface.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (played a game)
Post by: von Lucky on February 03, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
Interesting method of using reaction for both sides. Maybe more nuanced reactions for one side and free reign play for the other?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (played a game)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2020, 11:33:41 PM
The hobbits weren't so much programmed reactions, as they were common sense given their abilities and the fact that the trolls plan was obvious enough that it could be assumed as a given.

I was really surprised at how well the militia could fight off the trolls in a head-on fight. (And I even took away their wall of spears ability.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (of orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, and half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2020, 06:28:04 AM
After recently receiving the Midlam Miniatures hobgoblins (and started to paint them already!) I decided to write a bit about how they fit into my Althammer setting...

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2020/02/althammer-of-orcs-goblins-hobgoblins.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hx8Gl2lv6Xk/XlNjCC3XMWI/AAAAAAAAIf0/fsrA3kFj4-YNEfv_QhODXhbOT6-SghW3QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200223_235842.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (of orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, and half-orcs)
Post by: Elk101 on February 24, 2020, 07:03:33 AM
I like what you are doing with this. Another very well painted group.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (of orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, and half-orcs)
Post by: area23 on February 24, 2020, 11:25:13 AM
As for the Alternative Armies Hobgoblins, I remembere reading somewhere that they were released mid nineties and sculpted by an (ex-)GW illustrator. Might have been Mark Gibbons.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 29, 2020, 06:04:16 AM
Not sure of the history of the Alt. Armies hobgoblins, but I wish there were more of them!


I'm back to my wood elf project for the Old World Army Challenged. Finished my 15 archers plus a few other figures for Feb:

https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/02/zerotwentythrees-february-wood-elves.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--5TmcyvdCvg/XlNDIROWckI/AAAAAAAAIfA/8o_VsLI_k_0jTbI4a5W70qDtynBEIyr9ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200223_221405_20200223221649523.jpg)

If you like classic Warhammer, it's worth a look at the rest of the entries/projects on the site as well!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on February 29, 2020, 08:15:59 AM
I really like the aesthetic of your darker palette for the wood elves.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 01, 2020, 02:28:26 AM
Thank you! I'm going for a look of a band of dark, weathered hunters.



I painted the first of the Midlam Hobgoblins. Related to a recent blog post as well as my re-purposing of the old Citadel "Hobgoblin Despoilers", these have been adopted as hob-orcs.... er, half-orcs and painted as such.

I'm very happy with them -- both the sculpts as well as how they painted up! Looking forward to painting some more.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7A7iDWR3ADg/XlsaaAa7hQI/AAAAAAAAIgo/Mcqa8Liwm-MZ3YSiQjH34Oe8iXS9FXH_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200229_180218.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves & hobgoblins/half-orcs)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on March 01, 2020, 05:31:16 AM
I like what you are doing with your hobgoblins/orcs as well. Fits my preferred aesthetic for Orcs in general.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves & hobgoblins/half-orcs)
Post by: Thew1 on March 01, 2020, 07:31:12 AM
Lovely stuff. Those Midlam Hobgoblins look brilliant, like a really disreputable bunch of mercenaries, and the wood elves are looking great in the subtle weathered pallette
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (hobhounds)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 08, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Thank you!


Hobhounds. Midlam Miniatures. I wish there was a second hobhound design for variety, but very happy with the quality of the sculpts and castings.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EpQf6a-ipVg/XmTX9c8T7xI/AAAAAAAAIhI/Pdk1dzwf5RY3QTG7MFlJByG0vBCPqLUKQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200308_071333_154%2B%25281%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (hobhounds)
Post by: Dr Mathias on March 08, 2020, 11:25:40 PM
I like those, they look brutal.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (hobhounds)
Post by: Blackwolf on March 08, 2020, 11:37:19 PM
Don’t know if I have ever replied on this thread; great work,and lovely miniatures.Very inspirational  :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (hobhounds)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2020, 10:09:39 PM
Thank you both!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (hobhounds)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 03, 2020, 03:19:56 AM
My wardancers are up on the OWAC site. Grimmer. Darkerer. No frolicking tree huggers here.  :wink:

These are all with double handed weapons. I've got another regiment with dual weapons coming up in a few months.

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/04/zerotwentythrees-march-wood-elves-242.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2Bqv-tSZTx8/XoEYhMLmNMI/AAAAAAAAIjg/2ixUMPPDl2QLcmGIpwBgvquhjTlMKquFACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200329_164309.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (elf wardancers)
Post by: Thew1 on April 03, 2020, 10:55:20 AM
These look great, definitely a bit more 'Rambo' than 'Hippy'  :D
Also looked through the last couple of pages of your thread and your blog, some amazing painting and I really like the 'Alt-hammer' setting you've created for your armies.
Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (elf wardancers)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on April 03, 2020, 11:54:17 AM
Clever color scheme on the wardancers... reminds me of Arnie as Conan the Thief.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (elf wardancers)
Post by: beefcake on April 03, 2020, 10:03:41 PM
Very nice. Echo that conan comment too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves and plague)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 23, 2020, 03:51:55 AM
My April entry for the Old World Army Challenge is up. I had planned on taking the month off and painting giants, as I do every April for a few years now. But I just wasn't able to get into the giants. But I did paint up an interesting variety of figures for my OWAC wood elves. Close-up photos and wordy words at the website, link below.

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/04/zerotwentythrees-april-wood-elves-1029.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pMoh8FQzMZY/XpfpSg11N2I/AAAAAAAAIno/bRBoKu_u0n0f2VV5tdXy2vCWsWTC8eZuQCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/IMG_20200415_234337_20200416011058709.jpg)


I also painted the old Citadel Plague Elemental. With that, I finish set, which have all been painted previously (over the course of 30 years... it's been a long project for just seven figures.) The very timely & relevant Plague pictured below. The other Citadel elementals, as well as some others I have, are in another recent blog entry.

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2020/04/elementals.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iUsMtxsvCf0/XqD-XZZ9EbI/AAAAAAAAIpg/_XU32ktNOKMmtq_s8gvWpEOuij-FgyjVwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200421_000104.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves and plague)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 29, 2020, 05:23:26 AM
I need some more (half-) orc brutes for my solo Sellswords & Spellslingers campaign, so I'm dipping into the small stash of Reaper Bones orcs that were slated for conversion into Fomorians. (That project seems to have lost steam for the moment anyway.) Here's the first. There's a second one on the painting table that should be done soon.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZQpAz_AsCfY/XqjmJv5ypUI/AAAAAAAAIq0/G44FCpJYcHI88yyY96502FNqPK03wzSCACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200427_222242.jpg)


I also got some Stuff! In the Mail! Powrie from Cauldron Born Miniatures. Awesome sculpts. Can't wait to get some paint on them.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1648985407/rise-of-the-powrie

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xyzVCoJlBEU/XqjmNfqFYfI/AAAAAAAAIq4/60kjurb3cscfLf7imImCqowmHkamZaAxgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200427_222303.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves and plague)
Post by: Dr Mathias on April 30, 2020, 03:48:34 PM
Great stuff, I like the skin color on the brute.

I also got some Stuff! In the Mail! Powrie from Cauldron Born Miniatures. Awesome sculpts. Can't wait to get some paint on them.

Nice, I'll be curious to see your take on them. I went with flesh tones myself.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 28, 2020, 03:06:21 AM
I completed my May entry for the Old World Army Challenge! 14 more stealth wardancers. http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/05/zerotwentythrees-may-wood-elves-294-pts.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WBp0biz4AHk/XsInm_HtodI/AAAAAAAAIvs/T7BsM3p6qmouwj-WSEwqScD7fEMUg0vBgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200517_800.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1YRiUjADXU0/XsdIVrpliuI/AAAAAAAAIxI/KO7wDZ9_mDUmFNBFnMioWpGV8IpkFllvACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200521_223427.jpg)

Did some weapon swaps on some of the duplicate figures for variety, including the guy on the right with the twin axes... Slamb-eöl aka Glambo.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 28, 2020, 03:50:31 AM
Nice, I'll be curious to see your take on them. I went with flesh tones myself.

Did you post yours here? I didn't see them (but would like to!)

I failed to post the Powrie I painted so far! Have been dealing with compounded phone/computer/image problems anyway, so that may be for the best. But now maybe I can rectify that!

I opted for a crazed demonic vibe...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SChw5bfRO4E/Xs8hPaIocxI/AAAAAAAAIyY/2KXWKesm1ucGpKTH-iRAQcXyDXgK1E5SgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/powrie01a.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qaMByVCDaec/Xs8hPsBrivI/AAAAAAAAIyc/GymrdpygI7kQMZVoSz4--tYtHSDMsW8tQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/powrie01b.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 30, 2020, 11:10:49 PM
Did you post yours here? I didn't see them (but would like to!)

I don't think I posted them on LAF, I should start a fantasy thread I guess :)
They're on my blog though:
https://miniatureextravaganza.blogspot.com/2020/01/cauldron-born-miniatures-powrie.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (wood elves)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 01, 2020, 06:10:36 AM
I don't think I posted them on LAF, I should start a fantasy thread I guess :)
They're on my blog though:
https://miniatureextravaganza.blogspot.com/2020/01/cauldron-born-miniatures-powrie.html

Wow! Extra creepy with those flesh tones, and the rust/patina on your metals is perfect. I really like the terrain in the background as well.

Yes, start a fantasy thread please.   ;)



The Powrie are one of my favorite miniatures purchases of the past year. Another is the Midlam Miniatures hobgoblins, which for my own personal use I'm referring to as hob-orcs or.... more half-orcs. I've still got more set aside for some minor conversions (mostly just simple weapon swaps.)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-49p67cZuRko/XtQ4Nx7QxQI/AAAAAAAAIzg/YNpSilz7xM4YzmmxdiC4CvdK41XVXK0ogCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200530_193010.jpg)



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 01, 2020, 06:26:00 AM
Also...

This weekend we've had some beautiful weather, so my family took advantage of it with a back yard cookout and fire. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, but my wife and daughter enjoyed some s'mores! Stress has been getting to me lately. The pandemic isolation had been increasingly difficult. Aside from missing friends and family, we're both working full time at home, trying to help our daughter manage at-home schooling (can't wait for Summer break!), and what seems like an endless stream of household maintenance issues/emergencies requiring attention/repair. Enjoying the outdoors has been something good to focus on.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2WXq9b4fuoM/XtQ4clayqlI/AAAAAAAAIzs/npdmNvhNIgolaZSTmQEBRIeOqnx2-t5ggCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200530_212933.jpg)

I hate complaining about work or being stuck at home because I know there are so many people struggling with a lack of work (and related money problems), or more stressful jobs dealing with the public or medical health issues. I hope all of my fellow LAF'ers are doing well, I hope you're all healthy and safe.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: Dr Mathias on June 01, 2020, 03:46:05 PM
Those hobgoblins look great! I don't think I've ever painted anything from that company before.

The isolation has been a weird experience for sure, and can get stressful.

Your kid's school year hasn't ended yet? How long does it run?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 02, 2020, 04:33:44 AM
Those hobgoblins look great! I don't think I've ever painted anything from that company before.

I like these hobgoblins so much, I'm taking a closer look at some of their other ranges now...


The isolation has been a weird experience for sure, and can get stressful.

Your kid's school year hasn't ended yet? How long does it run?

Next week is her last week before Summer break. Looking forward to it. She's not been handling schoolwork at home very well, and it's difficult for us to act as teachers and councilors while still putting the time in on our own work each day. Hopefully we enjoy some more cook-outs and fires in the coming weeks. We're talking about a back-yard camp-out since all of her Girl Scout camps & activities have been cancelled for the Summer. (They're still doing stuff online via Zoom, but that's not the same thing.)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: randycarter on June 02, 2020, 07:40:26 AM
Hold on man, we are with you. I have many friends with children and in these times they had various trubles, I simpathise with you. Here in Italy the lockdown is slowly relaxing and things are slowly getting better. It's hard, but it will change. Have a good backyard camping!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 03, 2020, 06:53:37 AM
Thank you. We're doing OK. It's just a big adjustment.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 24, 2020, 05:51:24 AM
I'm getting worse at keeping up with various social media. I'm sometimes posting things in one place, but not others. I'm horrible at replying to other people's posts because I usually read them on my phone but hate replying because I have giant sausage fingers that plague my text with typos and accidental autocorrects.

At any rate, an update....

I'm trying to get through the last month of the Old World Army Challenge, but struggling. I've already met the minimum requirements, so I'm technically in the clear. But I had some remaining figures I wanted to include, and would like to finish them for the sake of "completing" the challenge army. (I know full well no project is ever "finished." But I'd like to complete what I have on hand.)

Along those lines, I painted a tiny "bonus figure" to go with the OWAC wood elves. Because I'm easily distracted. I believe it's from a pack of familiars from Reaper.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eCNrIdJORzw/XvKxuCNvrvI/AAAAAAAAI4w/jYDRzVprLjcJHLm_50nxmDFGugLIc-HYQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200623_212850.jpg)


While digging through bins of old figures, I came across most of an old Nurgle chaos warband, painted long ago....

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GvXubFPRPxY/XvJp-PQnlcI/AAAAAAAAI4Q/piFuNnwSm2I_TsVBu7yLaabbKb6ep3StgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200622_003233.jpg)



STUFF! IN THE MAIL!

I finally received this giant forest troll, Lempo, from the Sandstorm Miniatures KS. Another Drew Williams sculpted troll to add to my growing collection. The little details are amazing. For scale reference, the grid on the cutting mat is 1" x 1".

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aIRfFKQNu08/XvJp-EPHYnI/AAAAAAAAI4U/-REYO01vNvs1Uup-UyjE_quxTMOeSnEYACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200622_154253.jpg)


I also made a couple of impulsive Clearance Sale purchases online and the order arrived within a couple days. One was a couple of sample packs of Scotia Grendel (former Harlequin sculpts, I think) orcs that I've been eyeing as possibilities for more half-orcs/hob-orcs. Here's a scale comparison pic. The Stygian orc (left) is at the smaller end of the scale, the Greater orc (Uruk) is at the larger end, especially if he was standing up straight. Accompanying them are painted orcs/half-orcs/hobgoblins from Grenadier/Mirliton, Black Tree, Midlam, and Reaper.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4DB3liAIW6Y/XvJp-3bnMQI/AAAAAAAAI4Y/wDOmGVlNJ9spTivJqzRCifYh0e4NLFzzgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200622_184207.jpg)


The other thing I bought was a bargain purchase of a resin inn from Blue Moon Manufacturing. Looks great, but trying to do a dry fit today I couldn't get the parts to align like they do in the second pic (stolen from the online shop.) Once I get that resolved and painted, I expect it will look great, though!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LHogIJNj4tA/XvJp-EjEMnI/AAAAAAAAI4M/II255BFLGuYgcKGyqLTLV8Zh4sM4n7adQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200622_183547.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HfHDuVevue4/XvJp_GXiVQI/AAAAAAAAI4c/pGHEYEKWcqw7lmi1tSIngyb1kyz_ywcXQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/OGC15HOR-203.jpg)


Also, I've been resurrecting my old gaming table in my garage, and hope to use it for some larger solo or remote games. More on that later....
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: Bloggard on June 24, 2020, 10:38:06 AM
great stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 03, 2020, 05:17:58 PM
I painted my final entry for the Old World Army Challenge in June. Wood elf scouts, plus a few extras including a small forest dragon. Pics a the site, below:

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/06/zerotwentythrees-june-wood-elves-203-pts.html


I really like the Cauldronborn Powrie that I painted recently to use as non-RoC daemons and have been considering other figures to use for the same purpose. Looking at what I've already got in bins I came up with Crucible goblins. A few were already painted long ago in dark goblin-y green, but I'm looking at an alternate color and tried a test figure in pale white on one of the unpainted figures.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LKhMLrx7K4E/Xv1ujPcLg6I/AAAAAAAAI60/iILdRsP7oLoIRS6khLrS6K1CCPi9_Dj8wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200702_001032.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OvPl9Ftl1xs/Xv1ujGPrAkI/AAAAAAAAI6w/PirVTplChM8fLknkuBdBvf_-t0WdEPOOACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200702_001111_20200702011907988.jpg)

I like how it looks. I might try re-painting just the flesh on one of the green ones to see how practical that will be. I don't really want to repaint them from bare metal.



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 03, 2020, 07:45:26 PM
Those are pretty cool looking!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: beefcake on July 04, 2020, 12:30:47 AM
Cool. Great to see the goblins painted up. I have a bunch that need work including the one flying on the bat (all still available from Ral Partha Europe).
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (a lot of random stuff right now)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 04, 2020, 04:27:31 AM
Cool. Great to see the goblins painted up. I have a bunch that need work including the one flying on the bat (all still available from Ral Partha Europe).

Oooh! Thank you for reminding me. I've got a half painted bat rider stashed away somewhere! They really are nice figures. Would love to see how you paint them.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (alt daemons)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 07, 2020, 03:34:38 AM
I found it! I'll have to finish painting it after all these years!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x6i07RIW70Y/XwPUwkxM_pI/AAAAAAAAI70/SACxCJXuUYson-6KDTKXC4_BKqM9zywiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200706_182726.jpg)

And here are the old goblins with the green flesh repainted, alongside the freshly painted test figure. Next, on to the rest of the unpainted ones.

I'm already trying to come up with an idea for another unit of non-Warhammer/RoC canon daemons. I'm extremely happy with re-purposing these goblins and the Cauldronborn Powrie, but I want even more now!  lol

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HpKl-TMz-As/XwLD7gWZhkI/AAAAAAAAI7o/bpo4Bgq9y9QspK2NCvuoDoM6b5WxPQuWQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200704_194406.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (alt daemons)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 07, 2020, 09:29:25 AM
Those are superb - great colour scheme!

I've long been curious about these goblins (RPE sells them as 'hobgoblins'). They're almost Tekumel-ish and might make good Shen with the addition of tails and clawed feet. Really interesting figures.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2020, 04:12:25 AM
I know of Tekumel, but I'm not really familiar with it. They are really interesting figures. When the game came out, I got involved with some playtesting and was instantly drawn to the goblins. I still really like the figures and wish there were a few more variations. I've done some minor conversions (just weapon swaps) to help with that.


The latest.... I painted the 5 Cro's Goblin Raiders from Alternative Armies to go with the previously painted Hob-Goblin Raiders (also AA) for use as a small unit of half-orc skirmishers/raiders. They have a nice retro, motley look to them.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NqalYIrT4Fo/XxUC0gTWxfI/AAAAAAAAI9I/ZM0E-mpPxekgRo2fkoK9ACkVLsqahEIqwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200719_145339%255B1%255D.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GTD0wEB2aDI/XxUC7sqX2II/AAAAAAAAI9M/P9RtsXuPf9Uo2d7PoC5ZUCWUbs10GtZwQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200719_145453%255B1%255D.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs)
Post by: beefcake on July 20, 2020, 06:28:53 AM
Cool. I love the standard bearer. I doubt I'll get to painting those goblins with the bat rider for some time myself to be honest. lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2020, 05:27:01 PM
I really like that standard bearer as well.

Looking at these photos again, I'm wonderimg how well some of the old Asgard orcs would fit in...

http://www.thevikingforge.net/25mm-fantasy-orcs.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs & wood-elf wrap-up)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 23, 2020, 05:47:00 AM


My OWAC wood elf wrap-up post. A successful challenge!

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2020/07/zerotwentythrees-post-owac3-wood-elf.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_llvYhoQuN8/Xw6GEewRPoI/AAAAAAAAI8c/kNVkGSxg2UE8nffePbwEehFaZYMFFtcnwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/owac3-end1-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs & wood-elf wrap-up)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 23, 2020, 12:20:43 PM
Well done, something to be proud of!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs & wood-elf wrap-up)
Post by: Hawkeye on July 23, 2020, 02:22:41 PM
Treebeard at the back is very cool!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs & wood-elf wrap-up)
Post by: Elk101 on July 25, 2020, 10:32:31 PM
Beautiful army! I have most of those figures too. Best wood elf figures in my opinion.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: half-orcs & wood-elf wrap-up)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 27, 2020, 03:16:54 AM
Well done, something to be proud of!

Thank you!


Treebeard at the back is very cool!

I'm not sure who you're talking about, there are two possibilities....  lol


Beautiful army! I have most of those figures too. Best wood elf figures in my opinion.

I agree. They are a bit stylized, but they're nice and dynamic and capture the aesthetic of the period I was getting into larger battle games (vs. RPGs)

I do have to say that Tom Meier's elves probably rival these as being some of my favorite wood elf figures, but with quite a different aesthetic. But since out gaming group settled on WFB after trying various games in the '80s, the Jes Goodwin Citadel sculpts won out in my collection.



Unfortunately, I couldn't get one before the OWAC ended. But nonetheless, I now have a Zoat and I'm thrilled to add it to my collection, and the wood elves I just completed in particular.

Just got it this week, and it headed straight to the top of the painting list!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PBbzSXyfuFE/Xxz8AySFS5I/AAAAAAAAI98/3SHvGaXrYmo9yqjlQomsE8TPz0p1A8gQwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200725_025340_20200725141258673.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: rabble)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 04, 2020, 03:36:24 AM
Oldschool rabble...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1bXqqp9Zwmw/XybLxOd97FI/AAAAAAAAI-Y/xbOmRtXr8m4nEnavQa9xGPP-YeJuAQ37wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_20200801_222452.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 12, 2020, 05:26:54 AM
Got a couple of orc command packs from Scotia Grendel for cheap a little while ago so I could see how the figures looked & scaled up in person. Had been considering them as options for my ongoing & loosely defined half-orc project. Left is Great Orc, right is Stygian orc.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nv9V0IkQWiU/XzICzhF8SfI/AAAAAAAAJBI/TJFjru_hI4USUWoicbFtNL7CrlYzYi2ugCPcBGAYYCw/s800/IMG_20200809_235651.jpg)

Larger clickable pic comparing scale of various figures at https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2020/08/scotia-grendel-orcs.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 09, 2020, 07:10:29 PM
I painted something.

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2020/09/upsized-giant.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AImAfHxh3YI/X1f0qHwGDkI/AAAAAAAAJEY/jf8N63AQcgc5CVa9wMvkDUJgtvUzBc8hACLcBGAsYHQ/s800/IMG_20200907_232456_20200907235542993.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: rabble)
Post by: LordOdo on September 09, 2020, 07:37:12 PM
Real father and son vibe!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 30, 2020, 07:00:15 PM
Took some photos of old dwarfs. Haven't painted any of these recently, but wanted a group photo. I've considered them part of the Marienburg army, but have been thinking about expanding just a little bit into a small dwarf mercenary sub-faction similar to the way I now have small forces of sea elves, wood elves, half-orcs, etc.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RRFSL8WJEFo/X3QLsfD9-_I/AAAAAAAAJG8/HSJSZT26748aoL3tbV1YrHrWV28TwPZGACLcBGAsYHQ/s1200/PXL_20200930_030207080.jpg)


Handguns, pistols, and a couple of crossbows.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B5IBe77JJ7Q/X3QM01hup-I/AAAAAAAAJHQ/A5wTSjSKkGUglfVBTLYimu_LVPfLS7JBwCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20200930_030212620.jpg)


Artillery

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ynbQ44MlQu4/X3QM05RQJKI/AAAAAAAAJHI/7HGPetPb41wGJsPi1csjpZz8Ejl02LDVACLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20200930_030215642.jpg)


Spear/pike in back, dwarf style zweihanders in front

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ctNmvnGcC0k/X3QM0yki50I/AAAAAAAAJHM/KCdzC3TQDeg2lpd7SczYjHBC6k39tgjdQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20200930_030218738.jpg)


Light artillery in the back, sword & buckler dwarfs in front.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TW3XYEWM_hY/X3QM1I8xT1I/AAAAAAAAJHU/bASNFlA3INAMnd6m7SSJZYhdSwx8GNVywCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20200930_030222054.jpg)


Dwarf wizard. There are multiple definitions of that word available for use.  ;)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQyiUbtEmhc/X3QM1LLwOpI/AAAAAAAAJHY/ac_TupjF5HUP7a_vzztckokQWfXLEnePQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20200930_030229317.jpg)


Future additions. Maybe some painted soon?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bck0MNkiebc/X3QNj1QULiI/AAAAAAAAJHo/2zPJnqXb-wseFy-2PHwH62oEUhJk2dW9QCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20200930_030243583.jpg)


Still in reserve -- cannon, a few more spear/pike & artillery crew, a couple of odds & ends.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on October 01, 2020, 05:29:58 AM
Great work on those Dwarves!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: LazyStudent on October 01, 2020, 07:35:47 AM
Brilliant little minis! What make are the dwarves?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: jon_1066 on October 01, 2020, 11:40:38 AM
Great work on the Dwarf army.  They are certainly not short of artillery!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: boneio on October 01, 2020, 04:21:55 PM
Lovely dwarves!

I somehow missed that Stygian orc - that's my favourite orc range.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 02, 2020, 05:56:36 AM
Brilliant little minis! What make are the dwarves?

Mostly Marauder, some old Citadel, and one from White Knight/TAG. I've got a few more of the White Knight/TAG figures among the unpainted.


Great work on the Dwarf army.  They are certainly not short of artillery!

Thank you. Well, the artillery may not be short, but the crew...   :D  ;)


I somehow missed that Stygian orc - that's my favourite orc range.

I had been looking at the whole range for a while and the sygian orcs are my favorite of the various orcs.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: dwarf mercenaries)
Post by: JollyBob on October 02, 2020, 09:28:04 AM
Beautiful work, I have a pile of the same dwarves waiting for attention that they are now never going to recieve!  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 06, 2020, 05:45:28 PM
Started on some of the dwarfs, but not much to show yet.

However, I did finish the giant forest troll from Sandstorm Miniatures/Satyr Art Studio!

I was really intimidated about painting it, but once I got started it was a lot of fun.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gd-jWdtaZOw/X3yc-WFzdsI/AAAAAAAAJIo/89niCPDO5WoLkFntUqZi5Ky9lC_2FY3cgCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201005_034919765.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4uhHi3LtfWA/X3yc-RttccI/AAAAAAAAJIs/5G8JSbPA5_E7BbQAlgvvvgTEb3zfALKIgCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201005_034928780.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8cIYnyS9Yw0/X3yc-bRe3NI/AAAAAAAAJIw/8ceUX_EviwYyiPBAjfhVzfDBV3jriBK_gCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201005_034951389.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 06, 2020, 06:00:06 PM
That is a very cool figure and an excellent paint job! I hadn’t heard of that manufacturer before, thanks for posting. I’m looking forward to seeing what you do with the dwarves - the ones you’be already done look great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: Little Odo on October 06, 2020, 06:13:09 PM
You have done a sterling job on a unique and interesting figure. Great job.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: Roo on October 06, 2020, 06:45:57 PM
Cool miniature but my god what a paint job😳
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: peleset on October 07, 2020, 06:25:16 AM
That is a rather nice Troll Giant Thingy.

Reminds me of the McDeath Giant...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MXm6Eu-ZfyA/Vu6pKdo69KI/AAAAAAAAKXU/G8rgjwBIgGAJLkIkFEros4Z11AYhArB6A/s1600/IMG_5229_crop_edited-1.jpg)

...crossed with a Gruffalo.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 08, 2020, 04:23:07 AM
That is a very cool figure and an excellent paint job! I hadn’t heard of that manufacturer before, thanks for posting. I’m looking forward to seeing what you do with the dwarves - the ones you’be already done look great.

Thank you! Sandstorm Miniatures has done a few KS, the last (which this was part of) focused on mythical beasts. The sculptor of the troll, Drew Williams, has done a lot of work for various companies. His own "brand" is Satyr Art Studio (https://satyrartstudio.ecwid.com/) which currently has one of the two giant trolls he did for Sandstorm. This one may join it in his store, I don't know. A lot of the other trolls I've painted the past couple years have been from his shop as well.


You have done a sterling job on a unique and interesting figure. Great job.

Cool miniature but my god what a paint job😳

Thank you both! It is a really interesting figure, and was enjoyable to paint.


That is a rather nice Troll Giant Thingy.

Reminds me of the McDeath Giant...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MXm6Eu-ZfyA/Vu6pKdo69KI/AAAAAAAAKXU/G8rgjwBIgGAJLkIkFEros4Z11AYhArB6A/s1600/IMG_5229_crop_edited-1.jpg)

...crossed with a Gruffalo.


Ha! You nailed it on both counts. Is that supposed to be the giant or an ent from McDeath, though? Either way, a good modern stand-in.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: beefcake on October 08, 2020, 11:09:46 AM
That's a great mini and a great PJ.
I want one!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: giant forest troll)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2020, 03:40:23 AM
Thanks, it really is a great sculpt.

I'm looking to get into the Deadcember spirit. These are unfinished from last year, and possible Deadcember 2020 candidates.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G5NNLyVgijg/X81tl8rhg5I/AAAAAAAAJN4/iDhczSl05jwqrp0qaqLvAg1TTydfrQF6wCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201204_180659964.jpg)

Unrelated and not strictly new (pretty old figure & paint, in fact), earlier this year I dropped this figure onto a concrete floor and it took significant damage. I finally finished touching up both figure and base.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DS1ZPEihlnI/X818QNWEmvI/AAAAAAAAJOY/--pyHDO2bk4CyWQ0ufhXvfNFfZ-3Q9oZgCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201206_233844473.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Fistborkus)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 13, 2020, 05:12:09 AM

Everytime I see the Fistborkus meme it makes me smile, if not laugh. I've been wanting to do this for a while...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YRMfQho-SmQ/X9WfyswyrFI/AAAAAAAAJPM/U-BMJ7NzyQk_zaLsDJlOPZqu3ZWNKdKkgCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201213_045104067.jpg)

I kitbashed a Fistborkus!

I don't know who created the original meme, but thank you! 🍻

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xVDXYPJ3RcY/X9WglihyH_I/AAAAAAAAJPY/EsB_BAycD1gjxv-lCg5zw0E4bSuWbY7tACLcBGAsYHQ/s1279/Fistborkus_666c3c_7383865.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Fistborkus)
Post by: Dr Mathias on December 13, 2020, 04:23:12 PM
Everytime I see the Fistborkus meme it makes me smile, if not laugh. I've been wanting to do this for a while...

What a world we live in  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Fistborkus)
Post by: beefcake on December 14, 2020, 06:22:37 AM
lol, I've never seen that meme before. The mini does it justice and I want one!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Fistborkus)
Post by: CookAndrewB on December 14, 2020, 08:25:51 PM
I would also take a Fistborkus. The dog looks like one my wife and I rescued from a shelter in the US Virgin Islands.

I mean... she had a normal head, but the body color and spots otherwise are dead on. lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Fistborkus)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2020, 04:09:16 AM
I would also take a Fistborkus. The dog looks like one my wife and I rescued from a shelter in the US Virgin Islands.

I mean... she had a normal head, but the body color and spots otherwise are dead on. lol

 lol I would have been frightened if the head was the same too! Funny that they're such a match.



December is becoming a stressful end to a stressful year due to work related stuff. Extremely busy. So not a lot of painting lately. But I'll be damned if I'm not going to paint at least one undead in Deadcember!

Converted skeleton using a skull received in a box of stuff from Shadespyre quite a while ago.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IHt0W8D4O8k/X-AUTSojf3I/AAAAAAAAJQ4/6M_BRh9hQM49Gftxd8_F2OWJqT1J2tWBQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201219_193322302.jpg)

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2020, 11:10:20 PM
Oldschool Christmas skeletons painted for Deadcember.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d6a54sWiBqc/X-ZhW740r5I/AAAAAAAAJRo/_j-AjnbpCM0DLNuSmhl4aFwUzZdmXVvVACLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20201225_214627488.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 28, 2020, 05:55:20 AM
I have moved from old metal skeletons to rescuing second-hand plastic skeletons. These are from the first wave of Citadel plastics. I've always liked them better than the second version which were much too large/bulky.  A shame they're hard to come by. So I'll make-do with assembled & broken second hand figures!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8KBL41tQ8KY/X-lu2ZSiS7I/AAAAAAAAJS0/LTJCBzex6nI3QuT-SwsA5HgPxFaecDeCgCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/IMG_20201228_000100_502.jpg)


But wait.... who's that behind them?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-anrvtLq5f9s/X-lu2bAFrQI/AAAAAAAAJS4/aOse5kF9OQMZvPJUdvWL1brpvIq0QyXSQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/IMG_20201227_211707_969.jpg)

The Grenadier Demogorgon figure was a Christmas gift from my wife three years ago. I finally painted it! I didn't really have an interest in it until it was made (sort of) famous from it's appearance in Stranger Things -- a show that struck a lot of chords with me. After years on my painting desk, he finally got painted in my "undeadish" colors. I wish I could get a better photo. There's quite a bit of subtle color that got washed out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: hubbabubba on December 28, 2020, 08:54:19 AM
That's the nicest pj I've seen on the demigorgon. Now you've made me want one.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: Elk101 on December 28, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
Great job on the demogorgon with a striking colour scheme. I have the exact same model on my painting desk now and it's a really lovely miniature.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 01, 2021, 05:55:23 AM
Thank you, I'm flattered. After several years of procrastinating, it was an enjoyable figure to paint.


On the last day of Deadcember 2020, I finished the last of the ten skeletal cavalry I recently started.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G5z8mopq5Jg/X-6SaKTilKI/AAAAAAAAJT4/aGDhbGF3_m4G43-R8kNalFK15k14SfcngCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/IMG_20201231_170242_924.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: Bearwoodman on January 02, 2021, 12:50:27 AM

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-anrvtLq5f9s/X-lu2bAFrQI/AAAAAAAAJS4/aOse5kF9OQMZvPJUdvWL1brpvIq0QyXSQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/IMG_20201227_211707_969.jpg)

The Grenadier Demogorgon figure was a Christmas gift from my wife three years ago. I finally painted it! I didn't really have an interest in it until it was made (sort of) famous from it's appearance in Stranger Things -- a show that struck a lot of chords with me. After years on my painting desk, he finally got painted in my "undeadish" colors. I wish I could get a better photo. There's quite a bit of subtle color that got washed out.

Ah yes, that series was the first time I had heard of the demigorgon. It must be a pretty old sculpt but you have made it look great!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: randycarter on January 02, 2021, 09:07:53 AM
Very nice painting on the demogorgon: the subtle undershadings on the belly are very well done!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: Little Odo on January 02, 2021, 11:34:29 AM
A great selection of nicely painted undead. I especially like the subtle shades on the demogorgon.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Deadcember)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 03, 2021, 10:58:52 PM
Thank you. I procrastinated for a couple of years on Demogorgon, but im the end it was an enjoyable figure to paint!


A little late, but...

Kandos, recently deceased dwarven master brewer, come to enact his doom on the kinslayers.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PZuVlON4Rx0/X_Fmvl0J3PI/AAAAAAAAJVA/yhIg49TLFGQuM-hAphGVpaeQRPDQo2RmgCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20210103_042833317.jpg)


"Beers unnumbered ye shall spill; and the dead shall assail you to the last, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains. On the Company of Dozens lieth the wrath of Kandos, from the West unto onthe uttermost East. To evil end shall all things turn that they begin well. Ye have spilled the blood of your kindred unrighteously and have stained the ancient brewhalls. For blood ye shall render blood and perfidiously bought ale, and beyond the brewery ye shall nevermore dwell."

      - The Doom of Kandos


No offense to the work of JRRT on his birthday intended, all in good fun...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Liche)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 16, 2021, 09:01:47 PM
Painted the first figure from a "Life and Death" themed pair of (otherwise unrelated) figures I picked up. Guess which one this is?  lol

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g4Vnq5_PLok/YFEXjLL2egI/AAAAAAAAJdE/JX8rorv1eaMMTL6whuMAVjqdttDgYTacwCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/PXL_20210315_223351196_20210315233810822.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Liche)
Post by: Seditiosus on March 17, 2021, 10:04:15 PM
great paintjob (also applies to everything else in this thread!)

where is it from? I do not recognize it.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Liche)
Post by: beefcake on March 18, 2021, 07:28:19 AM
Cool. I painted that one a while ago too. Ral Partha Europe is where I got it from. They have another in the same vain too. The gold is brilliant.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Liche)
Post by: sir_shvantselot on March 23, 2021, 08:51:56 PM
The orb is brilliant!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Liche)
Post by: bc99 on March 24, 2021, 01:24:16 AM
The orb is brilliant!

I concur it’s amazing!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Life & Death)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 15, 2021, 09:46:18 PM
Thank you both!

I finished the second half of my "Life and Death" duo. The concept was a priest serving each cause. As it turned out, a liche and a healer.

This started as an excuse to paint the liche. So I had to look for a suitable counterpart and found this healer from Reaper. I obviously inverted some of the major colors black/white and crimson/turquoise. But I stuck with gold baubles & accessories and matched the liche's red orb with a similar feature in the healer's staff. In hindsight, I'm wondering if I should repaint the brown "wrap" on her staff turquoise, both to add some more color and to mimic the red on the sword grip.

The healer is hard to photograph, the colors get washed out. I'm very happy with the way this pair turned out. I'm contemplating whether they each need followers or minions. I've already got plenty of generic undead. Maybe a sidekick/henchman? What to do for the healer? I do have the old Citadel Life and Death Elementals for them each to summon as well.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v-oYh0WeXB0/YHifAmUrVbI/AAAAAAAAJgU/VPxM6J_-jr4jOCRjmVlR07CHwIuCXUHPQCPcBGAYYCw/s800/lfandde.jpg)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Life & Death)
Post by: Padrissimus on April 15, 2021, 10:52:42 PM
Orbtastic! I wouldn't know where to start. With the painting, not the scrying!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Life & Death)
Post by: beefcake on April 20, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
Looks amazing
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Life & Death)
Post by: Bloggard on April 20, 2021, 03:47:42 PM
marvellous as ever.

really like the bordered and vignetted photo presentation too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Life & Death)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 12, 2021, 10:56:31 PM
Thanks all!

Been a while since an update. Offline/work life has been busier than ever. No gaming all year, and what painting I've done has mostly shifted to sci-fi lately. But the season is upon us!

Season? Deadcember, of course!

Some Reaper Bones wraiths with the bendy weapons replaced.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhwFH9p1BXoYebLvFRx-kBwY-bnWJ3mlQvYXEtkU5Omnq96K72Lc9-yfU57Z75f_t7Cn3RquMTVtK_ZWmU1BEMEQUkrbXvISAJfR6P-OJ5hrTVY_A0w93GoF3y4Q0PqH2i7CELbxdHjAh8kSZBIV7h4OOm4YxY5bv7mutFaDefy9k9KfT10QHytVcysDA=s800)

I also painted my first test subject for a fantasy sidequest idea I've been considering. I'm thinking about Althammer skirmishes in the new world. (Not my best painting...)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEijl_k5pU9LM4doAGWeZYrlzyH3T9eAZTeRHt5kTP-LkeT_nzWGxo1cCSpxgz3brsIhDYzxqfmX9v6uorJvhPgR54VBXKRs8g-L9z8TbWN-x14hHEhOvbQN7LVVlFHJO2lr4GKgpH1KkSqdkBdFdOmVoxJkJRIf4zRVq7WJZVPDR8kSOwJtkjxT-5lazg=s800)



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Life & Death)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on December 13, 2021, 12:27:36 AM
The wraiths look the part - very nice job on the glowing bits!

I like the idea behind the skeleton, kind of a meso-american undead vibe. Seems like a good premise for a force.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Undead and Father Trollsmas)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 15, 2021, 03:47:13 AM
Father Trollsmas, give us the fungi
We'll beat you up if you make us annoyed
Father Trollsmas, give us the fungi
Don't mess around with those silly toys

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEidoQ9s8KwMcpEfAGTVegPbY3pjVikSqp129bEWsD3Phakr0Roeaq_47tV8M0nwJU8FqqcxxMptFepZB30OgoFRwXN4T1kc_BYbrGX3tSaIg9EML-ref0IYBaJvF2t3JNe2cuNEExm8FFmn1kXNKNDRtYdBHa7UKBeLXPi-SOk51OLpKTDlcj7mXYhhWw=s800)

I've been waiting all year to paint this last unpainted Satyr Art Studio (Drew Williams) troll for the holidays.

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Undead and Father Trollsmas)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 28, 2021, 03:51:31 AM
I finally painted a couple of minions for the envoy of Death from earlier this year.


(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhTwL2SI3otxxA-dIrhc15M4kjqxbbPdbiEKm3GJpSvx0V89mbT2JDoM4a4e2jUK8GPHlnp9NWdsvHrCstz6Pwe8v8tImgkZHUJH42Pjnhq0n9I_HZvnKnGJEDq9-zl30Yf7h9tyKvmn3ewmSwAPm6ojuGSfr872Q2tQOIqudhQaWpEAGRh0ZDo4Y6Jjg=s800)


Also painted the old Ral Partha hydra I received for Christmas four years ago. My wife got me the Demogorgon (painted previously) and this after we had really gotten into Stranger Things.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhe1KJSDJWwCF0u_CI-K-9TtIcjiay9IMlYDLF19qlAJmnOtRfcwm3jKWk24h0l3G9KhN2T4MTg9PP_ca17-lYeVTPmSpLIaHZPxoIxPVnZVYCpE0TuWxX_zh7Fej15q2V1mA-OnOyoanYQDF9o3BZXG6ZE4yyUzAXVupBneEhN769pnEB9C44_ONOA2g=s800)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Undead and Father Trollsmas)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 01, 2022, 04:14:33 AM
My January entry is up at the Old World Army Challenge. This year I'm doing.... undead!

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg5qnQldhQQtleLA0NuMDRHafevJSvKKmKoyoPIeKy3Gz1tnVeZl-jiiB2YdgizRvQSVv96_QHycs6phNFXXlxeI-xsGmVBziO-0yS8rB-9seoakgfBndknsBvn9dsr_jbrBh6p9l7_26uyNQOtMKInsDKsaoMkg0NkbMacWS3UKfzV9CHBFkHq-LAs=s800)

Additional photos & commentary on the site: http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/01/zerotwentythrees-january-undead-182-pts.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Undead and Father Trollsmas)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 01, 2022, 04:26:44 AM
Almost forgot... I also painted a bird for a friend. The rider & alternate feather infill were magnetized so he could use it either way.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjukrnN1g8eeRRUXCVf8LSmJYfRnHSoB9cbY4c58inbfELH3Gs3_Cj87BVuv_dCfj19VOeQRbzH_-iBYZ-OqHc3KZhWpgHcdv51iTC_MkuIQvVfKApB9eIfT1Ojh9J2rcbfO4b32s5qU2KKahn8L09ebIfo7tMdHEa92jPBjpqzk0S8IV3rvi1ZWJTdNQ=s800)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skeletons & Frost Phoenix)
Post by: Bloggard on February 01, 2022, 10:57:54 AM
knock-out  :-*

Skellingtons are fantastic too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skeletons & Frost Phoenix)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 28, 2022, 03:09:35 AM
My February OWAC entry is online. Started with a core of Citadel & Black Tree/Harlequin armoured skeletons and then... went way off track.  lol

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/02/zerotwentythrees-february-undead-289-pts.html

Preview below. click link above for all pics, stories/narration, etc.  ;D

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhWCmnZAvQ0RnThBPUfxXtmKtOfe8wenwzM5tdQQUd3pkX7__DDIyGly9uxXMSBkYBLFAF6w_y8A-C3yLvNXsSvKBRXeiYB23YJeNOQ-Vnz-2hQwmKi9JBkGDOPjHaeQA7tnkFFQ6dEn0C234TNWWsm4zMNG3XauIqF4PmWF8-H7ZUlk4H8F5bwvntI=s800)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhIHdCeRdmk3ScpNDi5dG1ZIXQRhjRsUnvFpTeXK_ueGTXdCkzJvqB-rBPMb5J8iHC3OlKTjr34Ha05yLRz7BC2JgmCx1XSP6H3wStqHb42LLzeoLXXPKQfEr8xgdtNysBkqYfUBvUd6K5MZ-MseL1AaU8JEtE27I9DQ2whQxtToz9m4SLrHwUzSP6K=s800)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjBD__P3N73Q6dovl--R91W4pNU4wGFYCCzUMRKFYLrsbI3bVyY80dlJ1CfI6ekj1jla7fOE7j4TYHZbpTWA7-Bmn-XinHyeTHa-AwmigGVVUvlCSva5bmCp1-T5CXx4WHSp-AgbUnzCiw-L8CecaWGYezk9RvUL_S7ZkeW_6xHokDtxFlJHws1DOhf=s800)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skeletons & Frost Phoenix)
Post by: randycarter on March 05, 2022, 07:55:26 AM
Oh, my, this is crazy!  lol Love it!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skeletons & Frost Phoenix)
Post by: Tactalvanic on March 05, 2022, 09:35:07 AM
Oh you just have to like that! Great PJs all round as always
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 14, 2022, 02:35:06 AM
Thanks. Halfway through the figures for my March entry and it's just going to keep getting weirder.  ;D
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2022, 12:00:51 AM
Thanks. Halfway through the figures for my March entry and it's just going to keep getting weirder.  ;D

As promised... http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/03/zerotwentythrees-march-undead-198-pts.html

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqvDMU-3Kd6duhtJ5IEhCZFgJqZ37zB1JmU1dU_rM58DzokthZX_GqNTGsoqiCPblksEz8OkAAJAbdOjGUUgJwGTuzSpQEqQ9A0wNPK1Ov1rouYNlQNTmi6-icXAUG4SA8c9aueJBkgQQR-XguFF1CY9_RmRGZvPJcNh69f5gpdju2me9OMi_RVKtn/s800/owacmar1.jpg)

I'm just going to leave "weird undead stuff" in the subject line through July.  ;D

I do have some more typical undead figures coming up at some point, too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: Cubs on March 30, 2022, 07:41:38 AM
Hey, being dead doesn't mean you have to stop being fabulous. They've put the dead into drop-dead gorgeous.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: Little Odo on March 30, 2022, 08:26:26 AM
Superb - fantastic imagination, very well rendered.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: beefcake on March 30, 2022, 10:04:49 AM
Those are great. Hilarious. I would love to play against those on the tabletop.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: Ockius on March 30, 2022, 06:59:31 PM
Just discovered this thread and really enjoying the unusual and varied stuff on it. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: CookAndrewB on March 31, 2022, 05:02:56 PM
Agreed, that is an army right up my alley. The banner reminds me of the Hypnotoad from Futurama. All hail the hypnoskull!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: randycarter on April 02, 2022, 08:15:05 AM
Oh Jeez lol lol lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: Bloggard on April 02, 2022, 09:47:00 AM
fab.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: syrinx0 on April 03, 2022, 04:14:40 AM
Those are great!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: weird undead stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 05, 2022, 12:45:11 AM
Thanks all!

Superb - fantastic imagination, very well rendered.

The idea is admittedly borrowed from someone else's lawn decorations. Pic in the link in the previous post.

Agreed, that is an army right up my alley. The banner reminds me of the Hypnotoad from Futurama. All hail the hypnoskull!

lol Thank you for that, the standard now has a name!  o_o


Just discovered this thread and really enjoying the unusual and varied stuff on it. Keep up the good work!

Thanks. It's not always this weird. Hopefully still interesting though.   ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Drachenfels)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 19, 2022, 04:54:36 AM
On a more serious note...

"Heinrich? Heinrich who? Oh that young kid with the magic sword? Terrorizing family farms and avenging himself upon half-ruined monasteries. Such low ambitions. Tsk."  ;)

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Drachenfels)
Post by: Elk101 on April 19, 2022, 10:31:51 PM
Slick paintjob. Nice work.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Drachenfels)
Post by: beefcake on April 20, 2022, 12:17:26 PM
He's nice. Where's he from?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Drachenfels)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 01, 2022, 03:51:51 AM
He's nice. Where's he from?

Westfalia Miniatures. Not really sure what is and isn't available from them anymore. This WFRP artwork seems to be the obvious inspiration.


Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Drachenfels)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 01, 2022, 05:15:21 PM
My April challenge entry has been published at the OWAC blog!

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/04/zerotwentythrees-april-undead-250-pts.html

This month was my Wild Card month, so anything goes. I had planned on making it a "light" month of painting so I could catch up on assembling the figures I needed for my May entry. But I ended up painting much more than I had originally planned.

The core of the plan was to scratch build & paint a plague cart since I have been unsuccessful in getting one of the original '80s plague carts even after many years of searching. Everything after that was a "bonus." See the blog entry for more details, photos and all of the figures. Here's a few highlights:

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Even our yard is getting into the spirit...

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Plague Cart, dragon, more)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on May 01, 2022, 05:23:21 PM
Great job on those! I love the flamingo!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 04, 2022, 01:34:53 AM
My May entry for the Old World Army Challenge is up! A few sample pics below. Many more pics and words at the WOAC site.

https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/06/zerotwentythrees-may-undead-333-pts.html

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: beefcake on June 04, 2022, 04:41:24 AM
Nice work. At least you have the plague cart wraith. I managed to buy one of those as a youngster. I managed to patch it back together as I'd misplaced the ox head (found later) and both wheels had broken at the axles. A great mini.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 07, 2022, 12:21:18 AM
Yes, the wraith goes a long way to making my cart look legit.  lol

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: hubbabubba on June 07, 2022, 05:21:03 PM
Oh man, imagine the shame of being vanquished by undead flamingo cavalry.

Bravo
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: Daeothar on June 08, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Oh man, imagine the shame of being vanquished by undead flamingo cavalry.

Bravo

Or worse; their goth flamingo riding champion who, according to his shield, is a total pacifist...  lol


Great and unique additions to the collection for sure!  8)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: FramFramson on June 08, 2022, 06:35:03 PM
Or worse; their goth flamingo riding champion who, according to his shield, is a total pacifist...  lol

I get the reference, Zero. No way could I ever any allusions to... ;)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: boneio on June 09, 2022, 11:15:11 AM
You actually built those metal carrion?! I'm impressed! How was it?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: randycarter on June 11, 2022, 08:01:04 AM
And the necromancers quarreling about theyr scrolls are just great!  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: Minus on June 13, 2022, 05:51:24 AM
You actually built those metal carrion?! I'm impressed! How was it?

Ha, i havent braved mine yet either. Would also like to know!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 13, 2022, 06:42:08 AM
I get the reference, Zero. No way could I ever any allusions to... ;)

 8) (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/42/a0/fd42a0dc3e987d6617d8dedbd0988061.jpg)

You actually built those metal carrion?! I'm impressed! How was it?

Ha, i havent braved mine yet either. Would also like to know!

It was difficult but not impossible. The pieces are very delicate, so difficult to pin. The joints are really small and poorly defined. So most of them really do need to be pinned! Additionally the feather-winged figure kept bending under its own weight when I started painting it, so it needed an additional connection (pinned) to the tree just to keep from tipping over.

I would leave it on my desk as it was supposed to be posed. But every morning it would bend at the tree (where the arrow is pointing) and I would have to bend it back. But that was no permanent solution. I ended up having to pin/glue the leg back to the other part of the tree to keep it from bending.

So the figures to require some delicate modeling skills. Wonderfully sculpted in terms of detail, just not in terms of assembly process. I love the end result. They are beautiful models. If you don't mind the extra work in assembling them, they are well worth the effort. I never had any interest in carrion models until these, and bought them only because I really liked the way they looked. I was not disappointed in that respect. It just took some extra steps to get them finished.  lol

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And the necromancers quarreling about theyr scrolls are just great!  lol

I had the older figure and when I saw the newer one being released I just knew I had to have them because of the modeling potential for them arguing!  lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: boneio on June 13, 2022, 09:15:14 AM
They are gorgeous carrion and you've done a wonderful job painting them too!

I'm not sure my modelling skills could be called delicate  lol That said I just discovered the magic of superglue plus accelerant so may have a small hope...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: carrion, necromancer, flamingos...)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 14, 2022, 04:31:53 AM
They are gorgeous carrion and you've done a wonderful job painting them too!

I'm not sure my modelling skills could be called delicate  lol That said I just discovered the magic of superglue plus accelerant so may have a small hope...

Thanks! Given the tattered flaps of flesh hanging off their animated carcasses, I think a little extra glue and/or modelling putty to hold everything in place could be an alternate to pinning.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Season of the Liche! (and friends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 05, 2022, 05:18:17 AM
I had "finished" my July Old World Army Challenge entry, the final month, a bit early. Or so I thought. Then our Benevolent Overlord posted a meme in the FB group that I took as a challenge and scrambled to produce a large-ish last minute piece of terrain. (Heh heh... "produce"... see full OWAC entry for the unintended pun.) I succeeded! The focus of the final month, however, was the leader of this army of the undead - The Liche!

A few teaser pics below, see the full entry for more pics, details, and words: http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/07/zerotwentythrees-june-undead-600pts.html

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For July I will be preparing my wrap-up post, plus repairing a second carrion that bent under its own weight so I can get some full-army pics.  >:(
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Season of the Liche! (and friends)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2023, 04:34:42 AM
Copied from my post in the Future Wars section a few days ago:

"So I've got something like a New Year resolution, except it wasn't really that. Rather it was a result of me complaining on Instagram about how much that format has failed to keep me in touch with the people and projects that I like, and a realization that forums such as this are more personal, less "curated" by algorithms or filled with ads, and get me the content that I want to see (YOURS!) The twist is convenience... most of my personal time is when I am away from a computer and apps like IG and other just work better on a phone. But I have a new 2-in1 PC that's a little more portable than my old 17" beast and although it's going to spend a lot of time docked on a desk for work, I'm hoping to use it to get back to forums like Lead Adventure!"

So there it is. I didn't really do any gaming in 2022. Work & Life got busy; there were major changes. Looking to hopefully get back to it in 2023. I did get some painting in, though it did slow down after the Old World Army Challenge.


Speaking of which... I'm not going to post my FINAL photos here because I think they're too large for the forum to display well, but you can see them in all their glory (https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/07/zerotwentythrees-post-owac5-undead-wrap.html) along with my commentary at:

https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2022/07/zerotwentythrees-post-owac5-undead-wrap.html

Do here's a photo dump of what I've been up to since then, in terms of fantasy figures.


I painted these eyes for a specific purpose in relation to sci-fi gaming, but since the bases are clear/neutral, I foresee them used in fantasy gaming as well. Great figures from RPE, I think from the Das Schwarze Auge range.

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Beyond that, there was a long gap between the end of the OWAC in June and Deadcember:

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I also repainted a self portrait sculpt I did about 20 years ago, but was damaged, repainted poorly, and now re-equipped with a rusty scythe so I can fit in with my undead...

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqP37SLxujHax-tLp3ObiI8rxqoYliDFZK3fylrGGKaItAbceeAqp6Qmgx6USINHlNMoipO4oHf2Q9dkCBHNXqiBvTaUrvKgXW9Lm6J3-SrVWQIuiSHgEBPkrS9YVPb-B211S11nooPodB-G0vIqABnC-bPIAoql6VQyedtDlcuXRNgdlXZyninDlhAQ/s800/minimirerere.JPG


Aside from Deadcember, I painted a small handful of figures over the holidays and into the first week of January. I'll follow up with those as time allows (hopefully) in the next few days. I also hope to catch up on some of my favorite projects, and many new ones here in the Fantasy Adventures forum soon!

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: beefcake on January 12, 2023, 06:20:32 AM
Nice work.
Love the portrait miniature too. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: boneio on January 12, 2023, 02:10:08 PM
I'm glad you're back! Excellent additions.

You're right about forums  ;) Far more longevity.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: Seditiosus on January 13, 2023, 07:57:07 PM
welcome back, missed your posts! and i heartedly approve your new years resolution! :)  one of my favorite pastimes is to look for what people have come up with and it has become a pain in the ass with all these content being within closed walls of social media sites, that the creators have no real control over... hope to see you more active again!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 14, 2023, 06:05:16 AM
Yes, I see now the error of my ways. Although I've got less painting/gaming/hobby time lately, I realize I'd rather be looking at projects on LAF than on FB or IG.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/vX9WcCiWwUF7G/giphy.webp)


Per last entry, I haven't done much since the end of the OWAC in June. Aside from some Deadcember figures, there's just been a handful of others...

I added two Nolzur's mushroom men to my small collection. I've got plans for a small, homebrewed Sellswords campaign and will need some more 'shroomfolk. These are nice figures. I wish there were more sculpts, but I think I will at pick up at least a second pack. Maybe a third to get six total. (The older figures in the back are from Ral Partha.)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi5sTy6v14ElEBT1-XlDDAz76ob3mEJonEDezR9sa0xa41JHD0kgqWPFJ-DEgnkh9xJf85v3Tk_1DfyWjVnRhn_YlYO_1V-kzKL6-h08ilSitQyfhgMeU1eRYXueeYNKvmetDSS7WgmUNKs6Puq7p71kZhDbqelYmRKVUr0OIOfyl3T0iWO94GQOu1gXQ/s800/800shroomnfried.jpg)


As I thought about the need for even more 'shroomfolk, other ideas came to mind and started to influence the development of the campaign. I don't want to spoil the details yet, but inspired by the real world zombie ant fungus, I decided I needed to model some 'Shrumans! These are the first two test figures.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_nLclzaqJCiYgJOBjv0ZbVKEfDNvcMGbfUF_rQj2SFCw5kH6JhW7hcQl8WqNC3DOFGgc2kjBP6UA22zK2Wfrb_mULZpqPdt6GhC6QI2qr07o5uE4cWZ3DFTATlw2KNF1p8SFZG4d8BX2azEKjDP6zfJIzgqW18wCnc50m-mWwXuNfit_We27Z1zgNEA/s800/shroomans02.jpg)


Also painted an old Citadel chaos familiar. I didn't fully appreciate how well the dace was sculpted until I painted it! The whole range of familiars is really great. I've got an incomplete (maybe half-ish?) collection. Maybe I should try to get the rest.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcRYpdbKgXzgMkq89SkHC3TvuIF_uCLpFaxHdlgtNdD89mKMCudVXFi17GN3QKCnU7_HuZBLUFBFFH2x00TLtUYGVvbw9apmfAWWDQ5UIyuBjVMD3xnHXh6W-1-L-DeAx3oKMDp5rRXhQjWG2S5vnlat6oxQx3W0yBcieHEYyzkYeiWaFXIGBURtONdw/s800/800daemonettefamiliar.jpg)


And lastly, not any new painting, but Owlbro got a family for Christmas!  lol  Will definitely paint these up in the coming months.

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EDIT: Looks like I never posted him to begin with! Let me introduce Owlbro, resin figure from Westfalia Miniatures. The above unpainted figures appear to be 3D prints, a gift from my wife. Er... I mean, Santa Claus. Thus, let me present: Owlbro!

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: Metternich on January 14, 2023, 04:29:07 PM
The painting on that Owlbear is superb.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: beefcake on January 15, 2023, 02:50:21 AM
Yes it is very nice.
And congratulations on 1000 posts!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 15, 2023, 04:31:51 AM
Continually great stuff mate! 👍
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: Little Odo on January 15, 2023, 03:28:11 PM
Fantastic painting on everything here, especially the eyes of the last few monsters; they look so full of life.

I really like the expressions on the gryphon and knight as they encounter Owlbro - surprise and fear rolled into one - great job!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 16, 2023, 02:37:42 AM
Thank you all. Both of those sculpts (owlbear and the converted owl-griff) are great and were enjoyable to paint.

And congratulations on 1000 posts!

I hadn't even noticed. Thank you!



I painted the second two of my four test figures for the 'shruman concept. I will definitely build & paint some more. Almost out of these old Citadel zombie bits, so I will need to look into other options.

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Also took a group shot of all of the 'Shroomfolk so far.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Catching up - 2023)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on January 16, 2023, 03:14:29 AM
I painted the second two of my four test figures for the 'shruman concept. I will definitely build & paint some more. Almost out of these old Citadel zombie bits, so I will need to look into other options.
Love the Shrumans!  lol

The new GW zombies (part of the Vampire, or "Soulblight Gravelord", Undead subfaction) might work for you actually - most of them already have roots and the like growing through them, so extending these into 'shrooms wouldn't be too hard. They are a more "natural" scale than the old models though, and of course they can be pricey... Still, worth a look maybe? :)

Failing that, can you pressmould a few of the bigger/key parts that you still have left to extend them? If you're over-sculpting them with 'shrooms, a little roughness from the putty casts shouldn't be too hard to conceal.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: 'Shroomfolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 16, 2023, 04:04:12 AM
I will check those out. I was also thinking about the Fireforge zombie peasants. I maz have some Mantic zombies andor ghouls, but thez are a bit too dznamic for my tastes.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: 'Shroomfolk)
Post by: Major_Gilbear on January 16, 2023, 11:20:08 PM
The Fireforge zombies are a lovely kit (well, both of them really). They fit in well with GW stuff scale-wise and in style, but have better proportions than the old GW Zombies you have there. Better price too. :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: 'Shroomfolk)
Post by: DeafNala on January 17, 2023, 02:28:29 PM
The 'Shroom Folk are WONDERFULLYimaginative creation; something I had never thought of before. I do have quite a few GW plastic Zombies on hand; you may b=have provided inspiration for their use...other than as parts. WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Rats & Fungus)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 08, 2023, 04:41:06 AM
The 'Shroom Folk are WONDERFULLYimaginative creation; something I had never thought of before. I do have quite a few GW plastic Zombies on hand; you may b=have provided inspiration for their use...other than as parts. WELL DONE!

High praise coming from the resident King of Mushrooms! I've been working on catching up on several years of your updates to the exclusion of almost everything else on this board. lol Amazed and entranced by it all!


For this year's Old World Army Challenge, I am painting Skaven. I've finished my January entry, which can be found here: https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2023/01/zerotwentythrees-january-skaven-130-pts.html

My goal was a lofty 30 clanrats, but I only finished 20. Still, I'm very happy with them. More pics (back ranks) at the link above.

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While I was painting rats, the 'shrooms were calling to me...

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I had build 7 more 'shrumans and painted those the first week of February instead of working on this month's Skaven entry. (I'm sure I'll still make it. It's not like February's any shorter than the other months, right?)

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And a group shot of the 11 painted so far. I have #12 on the table now, but after that I'm out of "host" figures and need to find suitable reinforcements.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Rats & Fungus!)
Post by: Freddy on February 08, 2023, 09:04:09 PM
Those mushroom people are scary :) Great conversions and painting!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Rats & Fungus!)
Post by: Elk101 on February 08, 2023, 09:39:21 PM
They're creepy! Nice work, but the rodents are excellent.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Rats & Fungus!)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 08, 2023, 09:40:10 PM
Thank you!

I forgot to mention that I recently learned that there is a recent zombie show that's based on the same premise & fungus! I may have to check it out.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Rats & Fungus!)
Post by: randycarter on February 11, 2023, 07:59:44 AM
They are coming together really well, the shroomen in particular!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Rats & Fungus!)
Post by: NotifyGrout on February 16, 2023, 11:29:51 PM
Lots of potential uses for the fungus-among-us. Everything from horror to comedy. Really digging your stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 03, 2023, 01:41:25 AM
Free time has been in short supply, but there's been stress a-plenty. I've painted a few odds & ends.

And ogres.

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And various forms of fungal creatures.

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Those last two are sold as "snow golems" but I thought they would make good puffball style Shroomfolk.



I started experimenting with making homemade living ooze based on ideas found on a couple of other people's blogs. Next batch will be more slime-mold or orchre colored.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on March 03, 2023, 03:14:45 AM
 Those look great! I like your idea of repurposing the snow golems, they’re just right for puffballs. Those classic ogres are excellent too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: boneio on March 03, 2023, 09:37:01 AM
Love the ogres! I mean, all of it as usual, but really nice ogres :)
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: Mellal on March 03, 2023, 09:37:24 AM
Really funny and nice looking. Did you made them with a glue gun ?

The color is really well chosen.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: DeafNala on March 03, 2023, 02:44:10 PM
OUTSTANDING STUFF! I really like the new Mushroom Guys & the Ogres.
The Possible Puffballs might make good Morels:
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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: plessiez on March 03, 2023, 10:24:03 PM
Not suggesting yours were inspired by this, but I think that with the Last of Us we’re going to see a lot of people doing mushroom related things. Yours love ace. If you have access to a printer there’s a few things I’ve seen on MMF that might fit in nicely with yours?

Mushroom knights https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-fungus-knight-modular-bundle-presupported-227148

Swamp zombies https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-swamp-shroom-zombies-150016
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Ogres, Shrooms, Ooze)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2023, 03:08:16 AM
Really funny and nice looking. Did you made them with a glue gun ?

The color is really well chosen.


Yes, glue gun on some wire frames to help hold them up. There are a couple of blogs/articles that I read. I did mine slightly different, but this is the basis:  https://www.masterthedungeon.com/make-your-own-black-pudding-miniatures/




OUTSTANDING STUFF! I really like the new Mushroom Guys & the Ogres.
The Possible Puffballs might make good Morels:
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I think my unscrupulous 'Shrumans may be amorel.  lol

I love the color and texture on those! I've been wanting to try my hand at more sculpting of my own 'Shroomfolk. I don't know why I keep hesitating. Yours are inspirational!


Not suggesting yours were inspired by this, but I think that with the Last of Us we’re going to see a lot of people doing mushroom related things. Yours love ace. If you have access to a printer there’s a few things I’ve seen on MMF that might fit in nicely with yours?

Mushroom knights https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-fungus-knight-modular-bundle-presupported-227148

Swamp zombies https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-swamp-shroom-zombies-150016

Those swamp zombies are perfect! Unfortunately I don't have a 3D printer.

I recently found out about Last of Us. I hadn't heard of it when I started, but my inspiration was from the exact same real-world fungus/shroom and concept. I don't get a lot of TV time, but have added that to my watch list. I got a bit burned out on shows like Walking Dead though, so not sure if I will stick with it. But definitely curious to see how they treat the similar idea.


Not much painting. Work has been overwhelming. Trying to keep up with my Old World Army Challenge entry. But I recently acquired a second old Citadel C20 (Hill) troll and had to paint it right away. I've got a soft spot for trolls, and wouldn't mind painting a full set of the Aly Morrison C20 trolls, and maybe moving on to the Perry C20 trolls as well! The river troll was painted a few years ago. I didn't mean to paint it in the same colors (the River Troll was still in a box when I painted the new Hill Troll) But there they are.  lol


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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Hill Troll)
Post by: DivisMal on March 12, 2023, 07:10:43 AM
The trolls are great!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 13, 2023, 02:17:44 AM
Catching up!

The first big dragon I painted when I was a kid was a Grenadier red dragon. That figure is long gone, but it was the inspiration for painting this old Ral Partha dragon that I bought from eBay last year and recently repaired (broken tail). Vintage Tom Meier sculpt.

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Last year I had a bit of eBay drama that left me with a headless dragon. I didn't want to let a classic sculpt go to waste, so I made do with a substitution. :) He looks so sad, I figured I'd give him a pet dog to help cheer him up. Not sure where I got teh dog from.

Body & wings are old Tom Meier sculpt from Ral Partha. Head is a spare from the Satyr Art Studio trolls.

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Speaking of dragons, I've been on a bit of a roll with them. Yet another old Tom Meier/Ral Partha dragon. Cold drake, more specifically. This one is a repaint of an old figure from my childhood.

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I also finished the whole owlbear family. Mama had to go through some reconstructive surgery. I has to sculpt a new beak after dropping her and half of the original broke off. Owlbro & eggs are from Westfalia, the rest are 3d prints I received for Christmas, sculptor unknown.

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I've had these two Reaper half-orcs partially painted on my table for a couple of YEARS. I recently was inspired by the idea of them being a family of successful merchants dealing in exotic wares. Figured they also needed a kid (forget where I got them from). Pet and caravan coming soon. But right now I'm stuck on colors for dad's clothing!

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 13, 2023, 09:31:00 AM
Great work on these - that's a brilliant conversion of the dragon!

Lovely painting on all - and especially on the owlbears: superb!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: Old Hob on April 13, 2023, 09:39:15 AM
All REALLY good - but the cold drake and the owlbears definitely steal the show. They're sublime.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: Golgotha on April 13, 2023, 10:18:17 AM
These are all uber cool - I especially love the classic dragons... they have never looked so good...
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: beefcake on April 26, 2023, 07:40:06 AM
Cool. Love the trolls. I have the cave troll and its one of my favourite trolls. I painted it a super pink fleshtone with blue hair. Worked quite well despite how it sounds lol
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: Andym on April 28, 2023, 08:38:07 AM
Fantastic! The Owlbear family especially. We are playing DnD just now and just met some of them.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Dragons & stuff)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 07, 2023, 06:07:37 PM
Thanks all! The owlbear family was fun to paint.

I've completed my April entry for the Old World Army Challenge. Full entry (with background info) on the site:

http://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/2023/05/zerotwentythrees-april-skaven-620-pts.html


Pics:

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And a comparison shot between the newly painted (red) Jabberwock from Satyr Art Studio (https://satyrartstudio.ecwid.com/) and the older ones from Ral Partha and Citadel.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skaven and Jabberwock)
Post by: randycarter on May 13, 2023, 07:10:36 AM
Really cool job on he jabberwock, the texture really pop!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skaven and Jabberwock)
Post by: beefcake on May 13, 2023, 09:26:51 AM
Very cool. Sorry I didn't read the old world post, where is the little skaven from?
Jabberwock is great.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Skaven and Jabberwock)
Post by: Elk101 on May 13, 2023, 03:34:47 PM
Lovely work
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Grey Seer)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 14, 2023, 01:43:54 AM
It's been slow going lately, and I struggled to finish the Old World Army Challenge (https://oldworldarmychallenge.blogspot.com/) this year. But I made it!

The last two months were difficult partially because I lost use of the basement where I paint and have my small solo-gaming table. I also spent three weekends packing and moving everything (including all my minis and gaming stuff) out of the basement and into storage.

I had planned on painting 25 Skavenslaves for May, but only got 13 done. At least it was a lucky number! They had to be painted outside which seems like it would be pleasant, but was very difficult for my old eyes. Also not great photo photographing the figures.

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June was the final month, and I had saved this for my Leader entry, planning on finishing with a bang. I had 3-4 character models I wanted to paint, plus hoped to catch up on some of the figures that didn't get painted in previous months. Sadly all I got to was the bare minimum , a single Grey Seer. I am happy with how it turned out, at least.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Grey Seer)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on July 14, 2023, 03:09:35 AM
The figures look excellent! The effects on the knife and medallion on the grey seer figure are very cool.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Grey Seer)
Post by: Little Odo on July 14, 2023, 02:50:23 PM
Agreed, that is a fantastic effect on the knife, medallion and orb
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Grey Seer)
Post by: Tactalvanic on July 14, 2023, 03:45:12 PM
+1 again on that, excellent effect on the greens there, very evocative of warpstone weirdness and poisons of unknown ick.

Regardless still an achievement, and first class painting as always
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Grey Seer)
Post by: beefcake on July 15, 2023, 12:24:26 AM
I'd try to be original but i agree. Medallion and knife are superb. I like the helmet too.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Shroomfolk)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2023, 02:15:22 AM

Thank you, all. If I was only going to paint one figure in June, I wanted to try doing a decent job of it.  lol


A little while ago I picked up these three 3d shroom prints. Found some time to paint them recently, pretty happy with them -- prints and painting.

I occasionally think about getting a 3d printer, but I hear it is "a hobby in itself." Plus there are plenty of traditional cast or plastic/resin minis to keep me occupied. But some of that 3d printed terrain that's available.... mmmm.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Shroomfolk)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 19, 2023, 07:10:00 AM
Those shroomfolk are brilliantly inspirational. Loving your brushwork on them. Something for me to strive for.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Shroomfolk)
Post by: boneio on July 19, 2023, 11:32:40 AM
Ooh, really like those!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Shroomfolk)
Post by: Hobgoblin on July 19, 2023, 12:00:48 PM
Terrific!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Shroomfolk)
Post by: FramFramson on July 19, 2023, 08:07:46 PM
Love 'em. Great painting on some wonderfully gnarly figures.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 10, 2023, 04:57:41 AM
Still just slow painting. Recently finished the intentionally bright & basic colors on this classic Green Dragon.

Also started collecting photos (some old) of dragons: https://www.zerotwentythree.com/p/dragons.html

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I like the way it looks like the green and red are playing like my dogs sometimes do.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: beefcake on September 10, 2023, 07:52:51 AM
Cool. Love the tail!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: Little Odo on September 12, 2023, 01:15:53 PM
Those are lovely dragons - the brighter colours look well on them.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 14, 2023, 03:29:06 AM
Those are lovely dragons - the brighter colours look well on them.

Thanks!


Cool. Love the tail!

Both tails are part of the overall pose & sculpting that makes me love these two together. Having lived with cats & dogs, these two sculpts seem to capture real world animal poses. And in spite of not being related to each other, they have a great sense of interaction. Like I can almost relate them to my two current dogs when they're playing with/mauling each other.  lol

FWIW, both are vintage '80s sculpts by legends in their field. Red was sculpted by Tom Meier, green was sculpted by Trish Carden.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2023, 12:05:26 AM
I painted some stuff for Orctober!! Half-orc kitbash, mostly Oathmark human, but with a mystery head. Maybe from a zombie? I forget where it came from. The goblin shaman is, I think, from Clan War.

I have a couple more orc-y things in progress but most of the rest of the month will be extremely busy so not sure how much more will get painted.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: Hobgoblin on October 16, 2023, 05:02:20 PM
I painted some stuff for Orctober!! Half-orc kitbash, mostly Oathmark human, but with a mystery head. Maybe from a zombie? I forget where it came from. The goblin shaman is, I think, from Clan War.

They look great - as do the dragons! Think that head's from a Mantic ghoul.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: Padrissimus on October 18, 2023, 08:09:28 PM
Love the latest 'shrooms, dragon and orcy-types.

You paint very well, good sir!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: The Red Graf on October 31, 2023, 10:45:50 PM
Is there anywhere I can see the photos from the first few pages of this thread? I remember being struck by that black and white painting style you used in the beginning and I would love to see the examples.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2023, 02:24:12 AM
Is there anywhere I can see the photos from the first few pages of this thread? I remember being struck by that black and white painting style you used in the beginning and I would love to see the examples.

There are quite a few of the old pics on my blog. I did a group shot of the pics I think you're talking about here:

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2019/10/undeadish-glamour-shot-testing-new.html

And some of the pics that were shared here should be on this page:

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/p/army-of-dead.html
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: The Red Graf on November 01, 2023, 11:36:04 PM
Thank you, there are also quite a few on WarhammerEmpire.com surprisingly. Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: Green Dragon)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 03, 2023, 04:52:23 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 14, 2024, 12:37:58 AM
Happy New Year!

First bit of fantasy painting in a while, I've gone off on a couple of unusual tangents. This is one of them, I'll post the rest in a separate update

I finally painted a pair of figures to represent our current two dogs. I had one but had been searching for the other for over a year before painting. On the left is Moji-Tater, our Corgi-Sheltie mix. He's the youngest. In the center is Cookie, a shelter rescue dog who we think may be a mix of Boxer & Border Collie. On the right is Sasha aka "Muffin Butt", another shelter dog who passed away almost 10 years ago. She was a German Shepherd-Husky mix. Cookie was the tough one to find, but since I was recently looking at D&D figures I found a pack of three dogs, one was a pointer with a pretty close body & head shape, but I had to cut off the ears and re-sculpt them to fit the real thing. (Her ears look like Doby's from Harry Potter!)

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: Philotep on January 14, 2024, 09:04:38 AM
Very nice result! There is never too many animals in miniature games, I love them a lot.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 15, 2024, 08:54:44 AM
Great work! 👍 🐕
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: syrinx0 on January 15, 2024, 07:25:42 PM
Very nice.  I especially love the German shepherd.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 16, 2024, 02:16:43 AM
Thanks all!

I actually have quite a variety of animals of various types! In addition to the three dogs, I also have a couple of other former pet inspired figures. I temporarily "fostered" a stray cat (Mr. Kittah) who appeared to be a flame point Javanese. A beautiful cat full of personality, but at the time I was in architecture school, barely spent any time at my tiny efficiency apartment and felt bad for him. He found a permanent home with my (at the time) in-laws in a large house with several other cats to keep him company. I also painted my ex's ferret (a weasel familiar figure from Reaper.) Maybe I will take some pics sometime.

In the meantime, here are the real life dogs that inspired the figures in my last entry!

Cookie. Our best guess is she's a boxer-border collie mix. She was shelter dog. Forgot to mention she has also had pretty extensive surgery on her back legs, I have painted her massive scar on her rear left leg in the previous pic.

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Moji-Tater, aka "Bub", a corgi-sheltie mix

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Sasha, aka "Muffin Butt", a German shepherd-husky mix, also a shelter dog

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: syrinx0 on January 17, 2024, 04:48:54 AM
Beautiful dogs.  I still miss my lab, Casey. He was a wonderful companion. Loved playing with wrapping paper.
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: doggos)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 23, 2024, 01:43:27 AM
Beautiful dogs.  I still miss my lab, Casey. He was a wonderful companion. Loved playing with wrapping paper.

Both of our current dogs (the first two, Cookie and Tater) both love wrapping paper too! They are as excited as our kid is on Christmas, not as much about what they get (though they have been enjoying their new chew-bones) but because they love helping us unwrap everything!



Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 23, 2024, 01:46:56 AM
Miscellaneous miniatures for a possible return to D&D. I'm sure I could put them to use in other games too.

These cheap Halloween spiders are one of the best miniatures investments I've made.  lol They paint up super quick, too.

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Flameskull from a plastic skull and some putty. Ochre jelly from hot glue.

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These two undead gnoll things I just bought because I thought they looked cool.

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Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: Pattus Magnus on January 23, 2024, 07:00:13 AM
Those all look excellent! The baby beholders are so cute! I don’t remember from the lore are what stage they develop their death gaze… might be from, birth, hatching, mitosis?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: syrinx0 on January 24, 2024, 01:01:50 AM
Nice painting.  I love the mimic's.  The undead gnolls are rather unique. Who makes them?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 24, 2024, 02:59:42 AM
Those all look excellent! The baby beholders are so cute! I don’t remember from the lore are what stage they develop their death gaze… might be from, birth, hatching, mitosis?

They "gazers" and are apparently created from beholder dreams. I had never heard of them and looked it up when I bought the spectator, because it came with two gazers as well.

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gazer
https://shop.wizkids.com/products/d-d-nolzurs-spectator-gazers-online-store



Nice painting.  I love the mimic's.  The undead gnolls are rather unique. Who makes them?

Those are also cheap soft plastic (PVC?) D&D minis.

https://shop.wizkids.com/products/d-d-nolzurs-gnoll-witherlings

Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: Hawkeye on January 24, 2024, 07:04:58 PM
Lovely miniature painting here, as always, but even better work on your real-life dogs! You're a good man for taking on those shelter dogs. My two at the moment are both shelter dogs too, and the truth is that there are so many of them in shelters that need a good home. Hats off to you, Zero! Your dogs are beautiful!
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: beefcake on April 01, 2024, 10:00:49 PM
Very nice work. I just had my kids fighting a grick in our latest DND round. Where is that one from?
Title: Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (update: D&D(&D))
Post by: Basementboy on April 02, 2024, 08:26:43 AM
Very nice! Might try your hot glue technique to make so slimes of my own, really good idea :D