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Title: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 16, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Fates Fickle Finger on April 16, 2015, 08:09:03 PM
Wow! :o
FFF
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 16, 2015, 08:12:42 PM
Now all I can think of is how cool a table would look with a crashed star destroyer on it  :-*
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Vindice on April 16, 2015, 08:18:44 PM
I want the new TIEs.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Earther on April 16, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
I now have goosebumps!

I am such a saddo! lol
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: beefcake on April 16, 2015, 08:35:05 PM
Chewie, we're home.

So excited.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: FramFramson on April 16, 2015, 08:37:29 PM
Looking good! Nice updates on everything.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Sterling Moose on April 16, 2015, 08:45:46 PM
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I now have goosebumps!

Me too!!

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I am such a saddo!

Speak for yourself   :D
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Michi on April 16, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
Now THAT is what I want to see. It looks like they´ve done it a bit right at last!!!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Kissyfur on April 16, 2015, 08:51:38 PM
Oh my god! The first trailer was fairly exciting (yay for JJ Abrams and that), but that looks effing awesome.

Chewie could have done with some grey hair though. :)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Vanvlak on April 16, 2015, 09:09:14 PM
We're home  8)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Cosmotiger on April 16, 2015, 09:12:42 PM
My mind's officially blown!  :o 
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Cosmotiger on April 16, 2015, 09:19:37 PM

Chewie could have done with some grey hair though. :)
He doesn't look a day over 220.  lol
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: uti long smile on April 16, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
I'm 7 years old again.

Watched it far too many times already.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Earther on April 16, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
He doesn't look a day over 220.  lol

Han or Chewie? lol
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Kissyfur on April 16, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
I'm 7 years old again.

Watched it far too many times already.
Thank God it's not just me. Thankfully Mrs Me is out tonight otherwise I'd be getting laughed at a fair bit, I suspect...

First born will be absolutely stoked to discover this tomorrow, though.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Elbows on April 16, 2015, 09:45:05 PM
I'll admit it didn't give me goosebumps like the teaser, but I still think this will be an awesome movie.  What's the story with chrome'd out trooper with the red cape/sash?

I love the crashed SD - looked like a mountain at first.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: nils on April 16, 2015, 09:46:24 PM
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IM TOTALY NUTS ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!
Ben and i are painting the sw comando figures so that is very inspeiering
my son coudent sleep so we just saw it together:)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Kissyfur on April 16, 2015, 09:47:02 PM
I'll admit it didn't give me goosebumps like the teaser, but I still think this will be an awesome movie.  What's the story with chrome'd out trooper with the red cape/sash?

I assumed it was some sort of Dark Trooper esque thing. but given that he (a) had a sash and (b) was in slo mo, he must be some sort of Big Bad Main Dude.

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I love the crashed SD - looked like a mountain at first.

That was quite special.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Michi on April 16, 2015, 09:51:26 PM
We're home  8)

Aren´t we all now (that we see THAT)???
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Amalric on April 16, 2015, 09:55:29 PM
Thanks for posting the link.



Aren´t we all now (that we see THAT)???

That is the TRUTH!

Did you see the wrecked X-wing in front of the Star Destroyer wreck?
BTW, the Jawa's must be in hog heaven with all that scrap just laying about!



Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Commander Carnage on April 16, 2015, 10:04:31 PM
That looks AWESOME! :o I can't wait
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Furt on April 16, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
Really quite happy with it all too.  :)

The Dark Jedi's head dress looked a little odd to me, but hey I can live with that!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Damas on April 16, 2015, 10:07:58 PM
Did you see the wrecked X-wing in front of the Star Destroyer wreck?

Indeed, very nice, but did anyone else spot that the engine the Falcon flew down was on an upside down crashed Executor class Super Star Destroyer?  Multiple crashed ships from both sides, it must have been a hell of a battle!!  :o :o
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Giger on April 16, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
CAN-NOT-Wait!  Can you wear youtube out :D
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Amalric on April 16, 2015, 10:23:25 PM
Indeed, very nice, but did anyone else spot that the engine the Falcon flew down was on an upside down crashed Executor class Super Star Destroyer?  ....

Good spot, I was wondering exactly what it was.

...Multiple crashed ships from both sides, it must have been a hell of a battle!!  :o :o
To the Jawa's it looked list Christmas came early!  ;)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: ErikB on April 16, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
I got a chill and goosebumps all over.  What a great trailer!!!

I loved the cameo of Vader's helmet and of Han and Chewie.  I know some people will complain but to me that's a fantastic tie-in.  I liked seeing Leonard Nemoy in the most recent Star Trek movies, by the same producer.

I like the chase through the debris with the Falcon being chased by the TIE fighter.  Again, trying to tie-in the old with the new.

The actress is gorgeous.  Holy God!

Not sure I like the new stormtroopers, their armor looks too simple, somehow.  Similarly, not took keen on the TIE fighters' white "wings".  I could get used to it, though.

Looks to me like there might have been some post-Imperial (whatever we call the Empire after Episode VI) operation and one of the Stormtroopers gets separated.  There was another trailer where a group of them get shot down, this guy could be a survivor.  

Maybe he's living with some locals (Luke/Leah/Han's family), out of uniform, the locals get attacked by more post-Imperials, and Han/Leah's daughter (that shockingly gorgeous actress) befriends him... he joins the "good guys", Han and Chewie come out of retirement to fight the post-Imperials who are harassing the community, and so on.

That's much hunch, just based upon the trailers and some art on the internet.

Anyone have ideas?

I remember seeing Episode IV for the SECOND time for my birthday when I turned 5.  I'll take the 3 year old and the 8 year old.  I cannot wait!!!!!!!!!!

I'm quite happy that there appears to be a strong, heroic, leading woman who resembles my daughter.  This will be good for her.  I remember identifying with Luke when I was little because he looked like me.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 16, 2015, 11:52:17 PM
I'm not so sure that's Han's kid, judging from the voiceover at the start, I think we can assume that that's Luke's son talking, as he mentions his father being strong in the force, I'm guessing that's Domnhall Gleeson's character, who we've not seen so far, and he mentions a sister, so is that Daisy Ridley's character?

And who is he talking to? I'm guessing John Boyega, although I'm not sure he's an imperial, that stormtrooper armour might just be a red herring, he could just be in disguise

Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: FramFramson on April 16, 2015, 11:54:04 PM
The narration is just Luke.

Seems it's worked out neatly for Abrams that Mark Hamill became such a well-regarded voice actor.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 16, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
Fuck yeah!

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 17, 2015, 12:02:47 AM
The narration is just Luke.

Seems it's worked out neatly for Abrams that Mark Hamill became such a well-regarded voice actor.

that makes sense, guess I'm over thinking it  lol
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: FramFramson on April 17, 2015, 12:09:21 AM
So apparently BB-8 F1F4 uses 100% practical effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzjUf3E_0c
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: gamer Mac on April 17, 2015, 12:26:35 AM
Wow Love the Trailer  :-* :-* :-*
And I am Baffled by the droid?????
How the heck does that work?
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Argonor on April 17, 2015, 12:39:15 AM
Wow Love the Trailer  :-* :-* :-*
And I am Baffled by the droid?????
How the heck does that work?

Must be a wheeled or ball-joint propelled engine inside the droid that weighs down the body and controls movement, while the head must be kept in place by magnetism. Precisely how they coordinate movement I can't fathom, but there might be a sensor inside the head that reacts to the head being tilted and makes it move against the tilt (would explain why the droid seems to 'lean forward' when moving).
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: warlord frod on April 17, 2015, 02:53:46 AM
I cannot wait to see this!!!!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Etranger on April 17, 2015, 03:46:15 AM
More information http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/movies/star-wars-the-force-awakens-new-trailer-gives-first-look-at-older-han-solo-20150417-1mmx3n.html Possible spoilers within!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: ErikB on April 17, 2015, 04:17:24 AM
I suspect the ball droid works like a Segway device. Only in two dimensions not just one. That must be a fantastic robotics problem to solve. it makes me think I would like to build one, too.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Slayer on April 17, 2015, 05:50:37 AM
pew pew pew, so cant wait :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Modhail on April 17, 2015, 07:07:27 AM
Ep 1-3 and Lucas' back alley surgery on the original three (Han shot first dammit! And the extra CGI is like a moustache on the Mona Lisa to me) ruined the Star Wars magic for me.
But now I'm quietly hoping these movies will bring it back. :)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: YPU on April 17, 2015, 07:17:52 AM
Yea, that droid sold me on it. The fact they build something we all asumed could only be CG is pretty amazing.  :o
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: TheMightyFlip on April 17, 2015, 07:58:03 AM
I'm in love with that trailer, and its only 2 minutes long...well actually shorter when you remove the adverts at the end. I did read on IGN that the chrome trooper is actually female, no idea if that's true or not.

Did anyone notice that Chewie and Han's stance is just like they did in A New Hope promotional pictures?
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 17, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
while BB8 does look a bit silly I'm betting he's gonna steal every scene he's in, love the fact that they did him practical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_K10fX9DSY
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 17, 2015, 11:32:19 AM
Oh yesss, finally something realy good and exiting. And yes - we are home now!

Watched it far too many times already.
LOL, me too, is 6x OK or too little?

I love the crashed SD - looked like a mountain at first.
My favourite scene too! Also a lot ike the Starship graveyard on Hoth in the SWTOR MMO!.

The Dark Jedi's head dress looked a little odd to me, but hey I can live with that!
Looks a lot lot like Darth Revan from the Old Republic too me:
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111435/3901569-2363630745-514d0.jpg)

I'm not so sure that's Han's kid, ...

I think we all expect Jaina - the sword of the Jedi - Solo somehow.
The expanded Universe has left a mark on some of us at least!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 17, 2015, 11:46:50 AM
Found some nice gifs here (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/7-Big-Star-Wars-7-Trailer-Moments-You-May-Have-Missed-70922.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/7-Big-Star-Wars-7-Trailer-Moments-You-May-Have-Missed-70922.html)):

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/70922/_1429208708.gif)

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/70922/_1429208734.gif)

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/70922/_1429212371.gif)

my favourite:
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/70922/_1429208695.gif)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Big Drunk on April 17, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
Isn'the the chrome trooper supposed to be played by Gwendolyn Christie? Can't remember where I read that..
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Kings Curse on April 17, 2015, 02:45:49 PM
So much of this I approve of. Absolutely love the shot of the Storm Troopers.

Crazy excited about this, rightly or wrongly.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: CPBelt on April 17, 2015, 06:58:23 PM
It will be fun seeing Luke on the dark side and being the  bad guy, as Jedi was supposed to end.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: ErikB on April 17, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
It looks like JJ Abrams is personalizing the stormtroopers. 

If the chrome trooper is Brianne :-) and there's the guy whose squad seems to have been lost, then this could be a really cool look inside all those anonymous and equal stormtrooper suits.

Supposing this is true, I wonder how they went from being clones to being individuals.  There must be some kind of interesting plot twist and explanation in there.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: uti long smile on April 17, 2015, 07:28:42 PM
It looks like JJ Abrams is personalizing the stormtroopers. 

If the chrome trooper is Brianne :-) and there's the guy whose squad seems to have been lost, then this could be a really cool look inside all those anonymous and equal stormtrooper suits.

Supposing this is true, I wonder how they went from being clones to being individuals.  There must be some kind of interesting plot twist and explanation in there.

To quote from the SW Rebels: The Visual Guide "The original soldiers of the Grand Army of the Republic were clones. Stormtroopers however, are mostly naturally born men and women, trained in brutal imperial academies."
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: YPU on April 17, 2015, 08:49:35 PM
IIRC there was a rebelion on kameno, which lead to the destruction of the cloning facilities.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: ErikB on April 17, 2015, 10:58:05 PM
Thanks for the explanation, folks.

I thought JJ Abrams declared that all Star Wars stories and characters outside of the six movies are no longer cannon.  Am I mistaken?

This would imply that the story of the Kamino rebellion is no longer necessarily part of the story.

Just wondering.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 18, 2015, 06:57:17 AM
Mild spoiler alert - Found a good Photogallery:
http://www.starwars-union.de/nachrichten/15298/Grosse_Fotogalerie_aus_der_The_Force_Awakens-Ausstellung/ (http://www.starwars-union.de/nachrichten/15298/Grosse_Fotogalerie_aus_der_The_Force_Awakens-Ausstellung/)
(http://www.starwars-union.de/bilder/news_2015/20150417-exhibition-xwing-03-sm.jpg)

(http://www.starwars-union.de/bilder/news_2015/20150417-exhibition-flametroopert-03-sm.jpg)

It is a German side, put the pics are self explaining...
 ;)

The Empire is now the First Order! Snow and Flame Trooper, Character pics etc.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on April 18, 2015, 08:12:11 AM
Wow - those pictures are fantastic.
Thank-you for posting the link
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 18, 2015, 08:49:15 AM
I thought JJ Abrams declared that all Star Wars stories and characters outside of the six movies are no longer cannon.  Am I mistaken?

That is the only unfortunate part  :?

But from what we've seen so far I don't think there's any need to worry  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 18, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
I believe the rebels cartoon is also canon and probably also the clonewars stuff
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 18, 2015, 09:20:06 AM
Well as far as I understand all the announcements EVERYTHING outside the 6 movies is not really canon.
It is all called SW Legends now.  :? :-I :(

That does not mean that chars from the EU will NOT appear.
Abrams and Kennedy just want to avoid too much stories as in the EU, where some of our heroes would be on a constant adventure.

The next few month will see  "Journey to The Force Awakens", small snippets too hype us all even more.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 18, 2015, 09:21:17 AM
Thank-you for posting the link
My pleasure, I am all hyped up again. I really like the website very solid infos!

I saw EP IV 1977 at age 16, I feel young again now... ;)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 18, 2015, 09:27:53 AM
This article on Starwars.com confirms that both the clone wars and Rebels is in fact canon

http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page

Quote
He set the films he created as the canon. This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align.
...
On the screen, the first new canon to appear will be Star Wars Rebels.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 18, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
This article on Starwars.com confirms that both the clone wars and Rebels is in fact canon

http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page

GREAT, even better that the stuff I read!
I like the CW and Rebels are canon.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Brummie on April 18, 2015, 12:28:45 PM
Thanks for the explanation, folks.

I thought JJ Abrams declared that all Star Wars stories and characters outside of the six movies are no longer cannon.  Am I mistaken?

This would imply that the story of the Kamino rebellion is no longer necessarily part of the story.

Just wondering.

I swear there was something in the 'final film' or Episode 3, that explained/mentioned that after the Clones were used to eradicate the Jedi, the Emperor made sure that they used a combination of different clone strains and human troops intermixed to safeguard against the Clones possibly turning on the Sith.

I also had someone explain to me that the race Chewbacca hails from live for an exceptionally long time, so in Chewie years (the film is set '20 years' after the last episode) he has only really aged a few years.

Really looking forward to this film though, really digging the stormtroopers, excellent looking cannon fodder.  :-*
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 18, 2015, 01:32:50 PM
Yup, Wookies have a 200+ year lifespan
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: ErikB on April 18, 2015, 02:55:26 PM
I also had someone explain to me that the race Chewbacca hails from live for an exceptionally long time, so in Chewie years (the film is set '20 years' after the last episode) he has only really aged a few years.
Dog years.  ;-)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Gangleri on April 18, 2015, 04:46:28 PM
Looks pretty snazzy and sharp.  Abrams certainly knows how to make a movie. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e7Upf6i7dE

But I just can't get too excited about the trailer, as slick as it is. Don't get me wrong, I expect it will be an enjoyable film.  But do we really need yet another Star Wars movie, even if it's a good one?  I don't see much difference between this and Abrams' ST movies, or Crystal Skull, or even the Prequels.  It's just the same old stuff, dressed up in new clothes (except for Harrison Ford, who has to wear the same outfit as before) for purposes of nostalgia exploitation. 

Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 18, 2015, 05:12:59 PM
for purposes of nostalgia exploitation. 

But that's what we want  ::)

Lucas fucked up big time, we want the feel of the original films, just tarted up a bit  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Pijlie on April 18, 2015, 05:32:07 PM
Against all better judgement and gut feeling, I am looking forward to that movie.....
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 18, 2015, 05:51:38 PM
Simple answer from me: YES! :o 8)

I like Ep. IV-VI and I liked Ep. I-III.
I like CW and Rebels, so keep it coming the more the better.
I would love to see quality TV Series, just as Marvel is doing it with SHIELD, Agent Carter and Daredevil!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Brummie on April 18, 2015, 06:43:36 PM
I didn't mind 1-3 I liked the big battles, and the Clone Wars in concept was really cool, I really didn't MIND the storyline or the characters much, but I loved the action scenes and the atmospheres.

4-6 I love because its one of the first things I remember ever watching. And Han Solo (and Indiana Jones tbf) were Child hood heroes.

Nostalgic or not though, I look forward to seeing these, there is plenty that could be done for Star Wars, its a huge universe, so why not utilise it? For those of us not particularly interested in the books etc this is a good avenue. In fact, as a kid, I always wondered what would happen after.

I always found that the end of something big was more interesting than all the events prior. Like the collapse of the Roman Empire, or the Soviet Union etc. Loads of paths they could explore with this.

Put it this way, I'm not much of a Trekkie fan, though I have watch Star Trek. The recent films were really cool from the perspective of someone not particularly involved in the 'lore'. And I really look forward to them doing more.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: ErikB on April 19, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
But that's what we want  ::)

Lucas fucked up big time, we want the feel of the original films, just tarted up a bit  :)
Absolutely correct!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Brummie on April 19, 2015, 06:44:11 PM
I-III was complete rubbish. Kudos to those that can like it but its still just plain bad film making from every industry bench mark out there.

This on the other hand has some potential.

Removing lucas from the equation was exactly what this franchise needed to remain viable by the look of things. Driving over him repeatedly with a necromower would have been even better, but hey.

in other news its NOT tatooine its a planet called Jakku. Looks like the jawas dont get a golden era after all.

 Battlefront will also include a free downloadable level available two weeks before Star Wars: The Force Awakens opens in theatres December 18. It’s set on Jakku, the battle-scarred desert planet glimpsed in Force Awakens teasers. The expansion, dubbed Battle of Jakku, will explore the moment following Return of the Jedi when the New Republic confronted Imperial holdouts on the previously unseen Outer Rim enclave.
“You never get to see it in the new movie, so it was this brilliant opportunity to recreate the Battle of Jakku, which you only see the remnants of in the movie,” said Bach. “In the game, you actually get to play the Battle of Jakku. It’s the same place from the new movie but 30 years earlier.”


Omg that sounds cool. Well looking forward to Battlefront.

Just wish there was a miniatures game that didn't focus purely on really small skirmishes, and didn't go OOP after a few years.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Momotaro on April 19, 2015, 08:18:49 PM
I like CW and Rebels, so keep it coming the more the better.

Clone Wars and Rebels convinced me that the Star Wars lightning could be put back in the bottle.  Brilliant stuff.

No sitting on couches or walking down corridors talking about Trade disputes there!

Although like Brummie, there's a certain, mythic grandeur about Episodes I-III that I love.  Big battles, the Jedi in action and their nemesis!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Vermis on April 19, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/70922/_1429208734.gif)

It might seem an odd thing to focus on, but I really do like those armour tweaks.

But that's what we want  ::)

I can see what Gangleri means, though. The first nu-Trek movie was great in the cinema, sorta fine afterwards when I realised the old characters were made a bit unlikable, and I haven't even bothered watching the second yet. Not enough to convince me that JJ Abrams is some kind of visionary genius who leaves a young George Lucas in the shade. Not to be a killjoy, but there's still a chance the movie could be like a latter-day Simpsons episode - a few phoned-in appearances by guest stars (hey, remember this guy?) and a lot of ridiculous padding. We also got all excited coming up to 1999 (I assume), remember?

That said...

Clone Wars and Rebels convinced me that the Star Wars lightning could be put back in the bottle.  Brilliant stuff.

I only ever caught part of one episode of Rebels (the pilot?), but when they were trapped by imperial fire near the end and [spoilers]that guy stood up and put together that thing while the music played...[/spoilers] Man it was great.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: olyreed on April 19, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
The trailer has put my faith back in Star Wars. Just what I wanted, and with the Rogue one story line about the search for the Death Star plans, things are looking good methinks
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 19, 2015, 10:38:43 PM
A slight aside and not really wargaming related but I thought I'd share as this is my wife's airline and I'll be having a go later in the year  :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32346867/star-wars-plane-being-launched-by-all-nippon-airways-later-this-year (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32346867/star-wars-plane-being-launched-by-all-nippon-airways-later-this-year)

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Grimmnar on April 20, 2015, 06:03:21 AM
A slight aside and not really wargaming related but I thought I'd share as this is my wife's airline and I'll be having a go later in the year  :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32346867/star-wars-plane-being-launched-by-all-nippon-airways-later-this-year (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32346867/star-wars-plane-being-launched-by-all-nippon-airways-later-this-year)

cheers

James
Looks awesome. Not a flyer but would ride int hat over the Hobbit one. :-)

But i do have to ask. Those wings. They supposed to be like that in flight?
Can see why i am NOT a flyer. :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Agis on April 20, 2015, 12:33:33 PM
More news about the 2016 SW movie Rogue One:
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Director-reveals-plot-for-Star-Wars-film-Rogue-6209909.php (http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Director-reveals-plot-for-Star-Wars-film-Rogue-6209909.php)

...so 2016 Rogue One, 2017 Ep VIII and 2019 Ep iX, glorious times for us fans indeed!  ;)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on April 20, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
And another Star Wars Anthology movie in 2018 with Josh Trank at the helm, the plan is to have a new Star Wars movie every year alternating with the Saga and the Anthology movies
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: The-closet-gamer on April 20, 2015, 04:01:26 PM
The bit where the Falcon is chased through the derelict ship reminds me of BSG Blood and Chrome where Adama flys a Raptor through a battlestar wreck. Still awesome though.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Gangleri on April 20, 2015, 04:46:29 PM
I'm not much of a Trekkie fan, though I have watch Star Trek. The recent films were really cool from the perspective of someone not particularly involved in the 'lore'. And I really look forward to them doing more.

That's in part what I'm saying.  In order to appeal to a larger audience and be more accessible, the movies move away from the lore.  But the lore is what makes a franchise distinctive.  So we're left with (admittedly enjoyable) generic space adventures: they have the trappings of the franchise, but not the substance.  It's Spock's personality, for example, that makes him noteworthy, not his pointy ears, and the new movies gave us a Spock with the ears but without the personality. I suspect something similar will happen with the new SW movies: they will have the right look but not the substance.

I'm not trying to deviate too far from the SW trailer or start a debate about Hollywood but rather to explain why I can't drum up the same enthusiasm that many of the other people in this thread have.  This is just a neat-looking space action movie to me, nothing more.   
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Brummie on April 20, 2015, 04:51:44 PM
That's in part what I'm saying.  In order to appeal to a larger audience and be more accessible, the movies move away from the lore.  But the lore is what makes a franchise distinctive.  So we're left with (admittedly enjoyable) generic space adventures: they have the trappings of the franchise, but not the substance.  It's Spock's personality, for example, that makes him noteworthy, not his pointy ears, and the new movies gave us a Spock with the ears but without the personality. I suspect something similar will happen with the new SW movies: they will have the right look but not the substance.

I'm not trying to deviate too far from the SW trailer or start a debate about Hollywood but rather to explain why I can't drum up the same enthusiasm that many of the other people in this thread have.  This is just a neat-looking space action movie to me, nothing more.    


Star Wars has always been a bit more 'wider audience' friendly though in comparison to Star Trek. Star Trek was always a bit stiff, whereas Star wars is like all shiny with lots of action and way more accessible for kids.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Connectamabob on April 21, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
I'd argue that old Star Trek's stiffness was more a failure of the writers and filmmakers than something inherent to the style of the franchise. Trek's problem was that half the time it was trying to be smarter than it's writers by an order of magnitude, with cringeworthy results. The other half the time it was being cynically idiotic (lookin' at you, Rick Berman), with equally cringeworthy results.

I think the friction between old and new Trek fans comes from the inability to acknowledge this on both sides. Old trek fans don't like to acknowledge that old trek was usually badly written, badly directed, and critically underfunded for what it was trying to be. New Trek fans, a group that self-selects for not looking too deeply, tend to succumb to the old "it can be smart, or fun, but not both" false dichotomy.

Technically old Trek didn't have to die, it just needed smarter, more competent people behind the camera. People capable of being fun and smart at the same time (we've all seen numerous such movies, so the the either/or argument is pretty dumb). Politically though, I'm not sure that was actually possible without the pretense of a reboot to justify the degree of regime change (for lack of a better term) necessary. Kind of the franchise's own meta Kobayashi Maru.

JJ Abrams was half that. He certainly knows fun waaaaaaaaaayyyyy better than most of the old guys did. Problem is he offsets that by sending the brains equally in the opposite direction. New Trek is undeniably well directed for fun, but it's also undeniably Ralph Wiggum-esqe, and some of the performances come off more like SNL impressions than actual characters (lookin' at you, Carl Urban). He's not really more competent that the old guys, just much more laser-focused in what competency he has.

I'm not worried about his Star Wars movies though. The writing is being done by actual proven good writers, not JJ or his equally daffy preferred writing buddies, so he's only doing the part he's actually good at here: the directing. And he's said in interviews that he was never that into Trek any way, and so didn't really care much about trying to do it "right". But he IS a massive Star Wars fan, so his SW is likely to be more "right" than his ST just on that merit alone.

And as pointed out, the standards and legacy of Star Wars are different. It's always (in the movies, at least) been straightforward archetype-driven space-fantasy with few if any pretenses to anything else. Trek trying for intelligence and complexity and succeeding would be a fulfillment, because it has a legacy of trying for those things (occasionally succeeding, mostly failing). But one of the easiest ways to miss the point and screw up a Star Wars movie would be to try and make it complicated. Not being fun wasn't a deliberate part of the Trek style, but not being complicated is a deliberate part of the Wars style (before you say it: yup, like the political machinations in the prequels. THE IRONY, IT BURNS!).
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: nic-e on August 12, 2015, 10:08:30 PM
So, i know this is some MAJOR threadnomacy, but there have been alot of new pics and a nw trailer since the first trailer came out, and i figured rather than making a new thread for the cool things , i'd invoke the dark gods of bandwidth and bring this back from the dead.

So ,second trailer with han and chewie came out and gave almost everyone who saw it a strong dose of manly feels,
we've had some pics of ships and villains, and now, we have THIS THING!
(http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p771/Nic-e2/AWESOME_zpstkabmxbz.jpg)
LOOK AT IT! I am going to buy at least 3 of these when they bring the toys out and make myself an army of high tech desert nomads!
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: thebinmann on August 12, 2015, 10:24:05 PM
One new addition here too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-VTdsCKLgg
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 12, 2015, 10:44:18 PM
I like that and I don't  o_o

I do like the fact it's wearing an AT PT (I think) cockpit for a hat but I also think its a bit too Star Wars, if that makes sense.

Still can't wait for the films though  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: DowVooVoo on August 13, 2015, 02:50:12 AM
not sure I like the storm troopers new helms. ?
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Grimmnar on August 13, 2015, 03:47:37 AM
not sure I like the storm troopers new helms. ?
You mean the Duck Trooper helms?

Grimm
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Dr.Falkenhayn on August 13, 2015, 03:53:44 AM
all the Sith Stuff looks a bit new episodish,also some Droid Scenes  :? Still going to be a great Movie,no Doubt  :)
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Muzfish4 on August 13, 2015, 05:27:16 AM
All looking good so far.

It'd want to.  As others have commented elsewhere, if he stuffs it up he'll be forever known as Jar Jar Abrams.
Title: Re: New Star Wars Trailer
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on August 13, 2015, 08:45:34 AM
(http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2015/08/12/ep7-128464-1377-1378-11.jpg)

Loving the new arm on 3PO, gives him a bit more personality
also makes me want get the 1/12 Bandai kit and do a ep7 repaint  :D