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Title: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 30, 2015, 02:42:22 AM: (http://pre02.deviantart.net/4247/th/pre/i/2015/014/1/f/redoran_warrior_by_lelek1980-d5b6zuo.jpg)

So... another thread.

Eugh...

Well there's a story behind this one. Originally I was looking for something as a side project to my Fallout stuff. The toss up was between Skyrim, Metro 2033 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. The later won out as I didn't want the hassle of starting up a whole new fantasy terrain project and a tunnel system board would have been a headache too.

Frostgrave's come around though and, being rather silly, I thought that I'd get into another system. Without so much for caring about the practicalities of throwing together even more minis and terrain. I'll probably be playing against guys with their regular fantasy forces, unlike with my other two threads where I provide all the models during games. However that's not to say that I won't make the usual tat for this out of principle :)

Anyhow. To start off this thread I'm taking a trip to Vvardenfell and presenting a warband made up of Dunmer. I may stick to just that province or branch out, but for the moment that's my focus. =P

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/7/30/732509_md-Morrowind%20Dunmer.JPG)

From left to right:

> A thug wearing regular Dunmer clothes with a Redoran Watchman helm and a chitin club.

> An infantryman wearing chitin armour and carrying a chitin spear.

> A Telvanni apprentice mage wearing the robes of his House and a Mole Crab Helm.

> A Man at Arms wearing House Dres Bonemold Armour and armed with a steel cutlass.

> And a thug wearing Netch Leather Armour and wielding an iron axe.

That's my merry band as they are right now. Still clearly WIPs, though I'll post up better shots of each as they're painted. They're all Fireforge Games Steppe Warriors that I happened to have had sitting about for ages with some greenstuff chucked on.

Still to do is to add more soldiers to the band (I'm sitting at 370 gp out of 500, so that's probably some more guys in Bonemold and Chitin or an archer) and to make the leading Wizard (who I'm considering having a bit more armour than the Apprentice and perhaps armed with a Glass or similarly snazzy looking weapon).

There's what I have to start with though, and hopefully I'll gradually expand on this till I have plenty of models to chop and change the roster. Morrowind's still my favorite game of the series, and there's plenty that I'd like to make models of out of it. For the moment though there's the petty bandits and sellswords. Maybe one day (if I can stick with this and not get distracted) all sorts of crap'll turn up here (hey I can think of a construct or two to stand in as Frostgrave's golems...).

Started on a House Guard riding a Durzog too. ...Before I discovered that there aren't rules for mounted units. Woops. Houserule it! Looks a bit like this, but its too early a WIP to show. :)

(http://static-6.nexusmods.com/15/images/110/2845280-1392289355.png)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on July 30, 2015, 03:15:25 AM: Interesting idea.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on July 30, 2015, 03:40:51 AM: Looks good! I am not at all surprised that you chose the faction that would require the most possible GS work... lol 8)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 30, 2015, 11:30:27 AM: Great work on those dunmer!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: beefcake on July 30, 2015, 11:55:28 AM: Very nice. They look really like the game.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on July 30, 2015, 12:00:32 PM: Oooh, an "Elder Scrolls" related topic ! Good work with the GS, I'm looking forward to see those painted.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 30, 2015, 02:42:55 PM: Who wants to see a picture of a potato?

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/7/30/732554_md-WIP%20Durzog%20Mount.JPG)

The start of the Durzog. I would have posted something further along, but it took ages to cut that damn hippopotamus' head off... Hopefully if I post later today it'll be more substantial, but well, people like WIPs right?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on July 30, 2015, 03:06:59 PM: Who makes the hippo?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 30, 2015, 03:11:13 PM: Not a clue, I bought it second hand. It looks a bit 90s looking, but I couldn't turn anything up on Google Images there. =/

I'm considering what to make my wizard look like. I could either for a Redoran style one wearing armour over a robe, which was my original idea, but as my apprentice is Telvanni then I probably aught to have another one of those.

These bits of art turned up which look interesting.

(http://img15.deviantart.net/47bb/i/2014/059/2/d/telvanni_master_by_swietopelk-d78bkub.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/91/45/48/914548e3423af18fdd260bd3622aa6d4.jpg)

Hmn, the first is a Telvanni master, which seems like a bit too high a position for such a small warband (something to move onto as a campaign progresses). The other one includes some of the armour which I was looking for. Maybe give them a glass staff?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 30, 2015, 04:45:43 PM: And the start on something else too.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/7/30/732594_md-WIP%20Flesh%20Atronach.JPG)

This is going to be a Flesh Atronach (originally from Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC) from The Elder Scrolls Online. It seemed like the easiest Atronach to make as I had a spare Reaper Flesh Golem handy that I wasn't using. It'll probably be a medium sized construct (or large, I haven't seen the models in person so I'm not exact on the sizes). Always had a soft spot for Flesh Atronachs, so if I run my wizard as a summoner this could count their Demon (unless I decide to make a Xivilai or something).

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131028232742/elderscrolls/images/e/e2/Flesh_Atronach_Solo_Battle.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on July 30, 2015, 06:39:05 PM: Ooh I like this project! The man-at-arms could pass for a Balmora city guard/House Hlaalu guard from Morrowind too.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 30, 2015, 07:46:19 PM: Well I say that he's wearing House Dres style Bonemold, but really its just the Skyrim set's cuirass, shield and helmet. The actual House Dres' suits don't appear in any of the games seeing as they only rose to prominence with the downfall of the Empire and House Hlaalu. There's a mod though for Skyrim which added a suit which looks a bit like that, so meh, that's who his former employers were. :)

Bonemold's not too difficult to sculpt so I'll certainly have a range of different sets made eventually. Though talking about House Dres, that particular Great House ride fleas rather than Durzogs. I may have the Durzog's rider be of House Indoril seeing as they inhabit Mournhold, or he can be just a generic guy. I'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 31, 2015, 01:32:33 PM: Well here's what I managed with the Telvanni mage (I went with the bug robe design in the end).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/7/31/732874_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Mage.JPG)

Not sure if the pose is too dynamic for that type of character, but meh. Sorry if the picture quality's shoddy, still haven't replaced that lamp. =P

Edit: fixed the picture.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Gibby on July 31, 2015, 07:24:26 PM: Love it! Amazing work!

I've been replaying Morrowind lately using the "Morrowind Reborn" mod, which adds lots of stuff and bumps the old ageing graphics up a bit. Of all the Elder Scrolls games it has the most unique setting... but I love Oblivion and Skyrim, too.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 31, 2015, 09:35:04 PM: I refuse to go back and dump a second more playing Morrowind. ...At least not for another year. Heh, not that its a bad game which sucks up your life, nah. Its sitting there for a few days downloading all the mods...

Seriously I spent a day creating just a spreadsheet of mods to install when I went back to play Skyrim a few months ago. That was before I even downloaded any. :'(

I present then the first painted model of this thread: the random guy in Bonemold armour.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/7/31/733017_md-House%20Guard.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/7/31/733018_md-House%20Guard.JPG)

(Might go back to the white background, the colour screws up with the focus as everything's brown)

Probably painted as you expected I imagine? I added a little bit of (nonsense) Daedric text to break up the colours a bit and what not.

The Telvanni mage with the bug on his chest is being painted right now too, though he's a bit further back as he was a bit more complex to paint than this guy (don't get your hopes up that it'll be a marvelous paintjob however). In other news I've started making a Flame Atronach for the mage too (he's a summoner), though its only about half sculpted, so I'll leave posting anything of that till its a bit further on. I have most of what I've finished sculpting now on my painting table, so expect to see some of that appearing soonish if I don't distract myself too badly. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 01, 2015, 12:07:19 PM: The leading man himself. :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/1/733056_md-Telvanni%20Mouth.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/1/733057_md-Telvanni%20Mouth.JPG)

And I sculpted up a Flame Atronach to act as a summoned lesser demon for him.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/1/733200_md-WIP%20Flame%20Atronach.JPG)

Its based on the Skyrim version specifically, rather than Morrowind's, because ...flame trails!

(http://orig00.deviantart.net/b3c1/f/2012/307/3/5/flame_atronach_by_ndc880117-d5jtn9h.jpg)

Edit: Woo! Made it onto page two of this thread. When its five I think that means I have to get its dumbass name tattooed on my butt. ;)

...Let's not talk about what sort of things I've done to myself for that long ass Fallout thread.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Cherno on August 01, 2015, 12:19:57 PM: The Flame Atronach looks pretty cool. I hope we will get to see a painted version soon :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 01, 2015, 03:03:57 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on August 01, 2015, 12:07:19 PM

Edit: Woo! Made it onto page two of this thread. When its five I think that means I have to get its dumbass name tattooed on my butt. ;)

...Let's not talk about what sort of things I've done to myself for that long ass Fallout thread.

If I recall right your S.T.A.L.K.E.R. thread is quite long too :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 01, 2015, 04:05:48 PM: I think I post too much here...

That Fallout thread's the longest one in the entire post-apocalyptic board IIRC. Heh, and its not dead (I played a game on Tuesday actually), but I am sort of working on three big projects at once, and that's not including all the stuff I'm doing on the side (I've to make a hotdog van for a friend this week...).

The Flame Atronach's painted.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/1/733242_md-Flame%20Atronach.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/1/733243_md-Flame%20Atronach.JPG)

Sorry if the focus is weird on these. Orange on an orange background maybe isn't the best idea. I really aught to see about making a blue background as it wasn't thought out very well having the current colour seeing as how often I use a brown palette.

Now all I need is another model to count as a Lesser Demon. Two for Major Demons and two for Imps. I'm thinking maybe an Ogrim or Ice/ Storm Atronach for the big ones and maybe a Scamp or Clanfear for the Imps. Hmn, though the rules do say that Major Demons don't need to be the massive creature that the actual model is, rather I could get away with using a Dremora for one (the issue with that is that it could get mixed up with the Lesser Demons/Wizards. ...The same rules say that you can use a chair for a Small Construct however).

Oh hey, and something that I totally do all the time, a before and after. =P

(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-01-2015/cJB4G1.gif)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Elgis on August 01, 2015, 05:38:25 PM: Still looks lovely. If you are concerned about orange on orange maybe the darker areas could be almost burnt black for more contrast?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 02, 2015, 03:17:25 PM: Nah, once a model's painted like hell I'm going back to it. ...Well at least not for a year until I look at my current models and feel ashamed :)

As my remaining paint brushes have all lost their tips (...dry brushing's fun), have some WIPs instead.

An Ashlander archer. He could double as a "tracker" in Frostgrave too, paired with a Nix Hound.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/2/733429_md-WIP%20Ashlander.JPG)

And to spice up the variety a bit more, another Daedra.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/2/733442_md-WIP%20Golden%20Saint.JPG)

She's based on the Shivering Isles iteration of the Golden Saints, just with a bit more armour. Once she's painted up all gold the slightly different design won't be noticeable. As I have two summoner mages (the master and the apprentice) who both have the same spells, there's a chance that I may need two Minor Demons on the board at once, so she'll do for a second one along with the Flame Atronach.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 02, 2015, 08:19:31 PM: And tonight's endeavors. My first piece of terrain for the setting, a Dwemer statue (...with updated visuals).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/2/733498_sm-Dwemer%20Statue.JPG)

Sans its shield, because the thing's still soft and stuck to some plasticard. :/

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/2/733499_md-Dwemer%20Statue%20Sheild.JPG)

It needs some ears added and I'll probably build the base up a bit, but it shouldn't be long till I can just drybrush it all grey.

Ah crap I'm out of grey paint. :(
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 02, 2015, 10:29:50 PM: Oooh its all so good! :o

Now you mentioned a Nix hound, I'm really looking forward to see your version! Im sure it will be great!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 03, 2015, 07:15:47 AM: It won't be a full sized one, otherwise that'd count as a Dire Wolf or something. The warhounds in Frostgrave are pretty big, so I've set a 30mm base aside for it instead.

Here's that statue now fully assembled, silly ears in place... ;)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/3/733585_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Statue.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 03, 2015, 10:22:24 PM: Work started today, so productivity plummeted. =P

Only managed to paint one and a half models. ;)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/3/733694_md-Golden%20Saint.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/3/733695_md-Golden%20Saint.JPG)

The Golden Saint then, hopefully looking inhuman enough not to get mistaken for a regular soldier in Frostgrave. Her skin's freakin yellow. ...Wait High Elves' skin's golden too. I guess that means I don't field her alongside High Elves. :)

There's a bit of brown paint on her shield's edge which has been fixed since taking those pictures btw.

Oh aye, pointless .gif time. ;)

(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-03-2015/MlpYPR.gif)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 06, 2015, 02:57:18 PM: Well this is as much I could manage since the last post. The Dwemer Statue's now in a usable state, along with the Ashlander now being painted, and I've started on a Scamp too. :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/6/734318_sm-Dwemer%20Statue.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/6/734319_sm-Dwemer%20Statue.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on August 06, 2015, 03:31:02 PM: Don't look at this thread for a week and :o
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 06, 2015, 07:11:05 PM: ...That statue looks like it has no neck because of its beard and how padded its clothes are. I guess the Dwemer's clothes were like gambeson or something, youknow to protect them when they're working with all that machinery and random steam venting.

Sure let's go with that... ;)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: zebcook on August 07, 2015, 04:41:20 AM: There's a silt strider on Shapeways that is pretty good. Little small for 28's though.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 07, 2015, 07:48:08 AM: I'd just make my own one probably. Wouldn't be too difficult to make one of those ones which are buried under the sand in the Ashlands either (I always assumed that those were either dead because of the climate, or sleeping, or something...).

Not sure if this is worth posting or not. Here's the armature for the scamp starter, though the pose may need reworking a tad (moving the model further right and changing the left hand so it looks like it has weight being put on it).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/6/734389_md-WIP%20Scamp.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on August 07, 2015, 07:25:43 PM: I hate you and your thread because now I want to do something related to the Elder Scrolls
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 08, 2015, 11:27:00 PM: Paint up some fantasy Roman soldiers. Go on... ^^'

Ok, attempting to put myself back into gear somewhat after a day of doing bugger all, I slapped together a Treasure Hunter for Frostgrave.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/8/734953_md-WIP%20Morag%20Tong%20Assassin.JPG)

Or rather what I translated their profile into. All that dexterity to me seemed like it'd fit an assassin, so here's one of Morrowind's premier assassin's guild; the Morag Tong. The model's another of those Wargames Factory female survivors, as I endeavor to find something positive to do with their horrible poses. The design's based on the original concept art for that guild, with a few changes, but at least she looks nothing like what Skyrim decided to do (reskinning the Chitin Armour set in a darker colour. ...Though I'll admit that was probably down to Bethesda cutting development on the game at that point).

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/4881/900649-morag_tong.jpg)

I looked at my current planned warband lineup and took the criticism which I'd read of the Man at Arms soldier to heart. If Frostgrave was a game where you could keep chucking in models to a warband then sure I'd consider using one, but when you can only take eight soldiers to a party I'd rather go for a bit more optimal a selection. Meh, you get another model out of me at least.

Oh and she was originally intended to be wearing Netch Adamantium armour, but I thought that the Morag Tong are more iconic of the game (rather than of a popular mod). Having said that that armour set would perhaps do for a Ranger (given the Ranger's higher gold value being representative of the armour's tier, which could be a rule for how to dole out armour sets in general actually - thugs = Chitin - Man at Arms = Bonemold - Knights = Glass, etc).

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg310/Chazz_Marshall/ScreenShot287.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 09, 2015, 03:05:22 PM: Another thug. She's wearing Chitin Armour on her legs and left arm, whilst the rest is all unarmoured. That sort of mish-mash of bits was pretty common in Morrowind before they got rid of that modular armour system.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735096_md-WIP%20Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)

What's left to sculpt (let alone paint) is one more thug and two archers, at least one of whom will be wearing Chitin Armour again as its really simple to sculpt. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 09, 2015, 06:18:15 PM: And for today's painted offerings...

I've managed to finish my wizard's apprentice.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735127_md-Telvanni%20Apprentice.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735128_md-Telvanni%20Apprentice.JPG)

Who's clothes are based on Master Neloth's from Skyrim's Dragonborn expansion (which are perhaps a bit fancy for an Apprentice, though this guy could be pretty old himself considering that his master's probably ancient), plus a Molecrab helmet from Morrowind.

And the Ashlander.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735126_md-Ashlander.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735125_md-Ashlander.JPG)

Who I suppose is off on some vision quest or has been exiled from his tribe considering that Ashlanders (at least before the fall of the Tribunal) were pariahs in Dunmer society.

I'm considering what else to do for terrain. Do I go to the local hardware shop and buy some plumbing materials to do for Dwemer ruins? What about styrene balls to sculpt over and make Telvanni mushroom buildings from? Or do I just throw out a few of those middle-eastern style mud houses you find in most Dunmer towns? See now I'm considering if I aught to go for an intact town or rather jump the timeline past Morrowind and go for events after the Red Year when half of Morrowind was turned to ruins (which would fit Frostgrave's narrative a bit more). The mud buildings would probably be easiest, though they're similar to an existing project which I'm working on for a friend.

...Until I've actually painted up a starting warband however I suppose the point's a bit moot. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 09, 2015, 08:02:31 PM: If you choose for a Morrowind, id suggest the Vivec sewers. A dark and mysterious world on it's own, where adventurers could search for loot while they fight all kinds of enemies. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 09, 2015, 08:36:47 PM: Well that runs along the same lines as why I didn't do a Metro 2033 project. Making modular tilesets are a real pain in the arse because you need to be precise with your cuts and measurements. As opposed to that open boards are just a case of throwing down crap anywhere and not caring how they line up. I did see a modular sewer system Kickstarter a while back which would do well for the Imperial City or Riften sewers though, but the look wouldn't fit in with Morrowind's ones unfortunately.

Oh and that after the Red Year Vivec city is literally a giant hole in the ground filled with boiling water might factor. :D

'Nother WIP. An archer wearing some Netch Leather armour, plus the armature for the Nix Hound. Not sure if the Nix Hound's sizing's perfect. I based it on a model made for a Skyrim mod which has it standing up straight rather than with its legs bent and close to the ground as you usually see them in the game (they do stand up like this during their idle animations however IIRC).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735177_md-WIP%20Archer.JPG)

(http://static-2.nexusmods.com/15/images/110/4216862-1386456885.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 10, 2015, 01:44:54 AM: A yeah fair point according the sewers. The nix hound hound looks a bit small if I recall right. If memory serves well they are more chest-height. Not sure though
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 10, 2015, 07:51:40 AM: If I were going to scale then a Nix Hound aught to be a on a 50mm base rather than a 30mm one. I guess mine's a domesticated smaller breed/ child or something, otherwise I'm not sure if it'd fit into the warhound profile. Hmn, its trying to find something which could be considered a dog to suite Frostgrave's purposes really. I guess as an alternative I could be using something like a Scrib, though that doesn't really scream hound to me...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 10, 2015, 01:05:45 PM: I think a nix hound would do fine actually, otherwise a Cliff racer would match the stats: Quick, attacking, but no possibility to grab treasure
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on August 10, 2015, 03:48:46 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on August 08, 2015, 11:27:00 PM
Paint up some fantasy Roman soldiers. Go on... ^^'

I could get a box of Roman Veterans from Warlord Games and convert them. I don't what I'll use them for, but they'll be excelent Imperial Soldiers.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on August 10, 2015, 04:00:14 PM: Quote from: Reed on August 10, 2015, 03:48:46 PM
I could get a box of Roman Veterans from Warlord Games and convert them. I don't what I'll use them for, but they'll be excelent Imperial Soldiers.
Hey some of your old Cesar legion guys with out fire arms might fit the bill for an ash waste fantasy apocalypse
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 10, 2015, 04:22:31 PM: The creator of Frostgrave has mentioned expanding the game elsewhere. I can picture that including giving ravens to Rangers as an alternative to the existing warhounds, which Cliffracers would suit. :)

Nah if I make some Imperials then I'll sculpt them myself, or at least buy some new models for them. Though the Legion appear to be wearing standard Roman armour, its not exact, so I'd rather sculpt it. I do take issue though that the Warlord Games Romans are more like 25mm rather than 28, so I'd be looking at some better sized ones if I were to make a few Legionnaires (if the Perrys do them in Plastic they'd be an option, though I hardly need 30 Imperials in a game where the average warband is 10 model, so I'd rather sculpt them from scratch).

On that note though I did pick up some loose Gladius and Roman shields last week. ...Not that the Imperials in Skyrim actually carry either of those, though at the time of Morrowind the devs were much less inventive with their designs. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 10, 2015, 08:27:19 PM: More terrain! Woop, woop!

...Because I'm too tired today to paint anything. =P

Here's the start of a small Telvanni mushroom house. Really early as I ran out of milliput, so its pretty much just the basic shapes with no details (hell the roof's still half done). Blame me for thinking I had more clay than I actually had yet again...

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/10/735511_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Mushroom%20House.JPG)

Its just one polystyrene ball with another cut in half stuck on top of it. Nothing major. I still need to add the fungal texture, the doors and windows, the roots holding it up plus some stairs and some other rubbish details. For scale purposes there's the still WIP Flesh Atronach beside it, which is mounted on a 40mm base (along with the front door too). Its only a concept piece, so if I were to make more of these then I'd have a few the same size then larger ones - all flung in beside some giant mushrooms and other bits of tat to suit a small Telvanni settlement.

So yes, tell me if this is a good idea or not. I'm thinking that they could do for a Telvanni village like I said or plunked in among ruins, etc, to add a bit of a variety. Perhaps Telvanni wizards seeking to reclaim parts of Vvradenfell or thrown in with some generic European terrain as part of Imperial settlements. for the moment there's no plan to give this or any other mushrooms interiors as I do with most of my stuff due to this being made from a solid ball, though they're small enough for that not to have a major impact on games I would think (and if I do make large ones I could have spiral staircases running up the sides so they aren't just line of sight blocking bricks on the table).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Braxandur on August 11, 2015, 05:20:39 AM: Oooh, I like it. I really enjoyed Morrowind a lot and the setting is defenitly special. I think you are on hte right track with your telvanni house, especially of you manage to add some of those spiralling trees/roots(?).

Keep up the inspiring work!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 11, 2015, 09:00:19 AM: That's the plan. I'll probably see about writing up a tutorial once I've finished this first one and worked out if there's any kinks. The basic design can be transposed to larger buildings once you have the technique down, the only difference is more roots involved and a different structure to the stairs. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 12, 2015, 10:37:36 AM: Today's kind of sort of project; work on this thing more. :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/11/735744_sm-WIP%20Telvanni%20Mushroom%20House.JPG)

...Even if I really should finish my warband first. :(
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on August 12, 2015, 11:08:01 AM: Very nice, and don't worry. Just gives you some terrain to have in the back ground for your new warband
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 14, 2015, 06:02:56 PM: My first go at a mushroom house now at the point of near paintatude. :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/14/736631_md-Wip%20.JPG)

Hmn, I dislike the stairs. They're based on how Skyrim did them, but I prefer Morrowind's spiraling ones (which also happen to take up less space too). A more spherical shape would perhaps look better as well. Overall though having different styles adds a bit of variety however.

I'll probably for a white/cream paintjob for the body, grey/brown for the stalk/walk and a grey/purple for the cap.

So aye, bar maybe adding some crap to the base ready to paint I think. I did make some loose mushrooms, but'll wind up putting them on a separate base instead. Meanwhile I have a few things which are close to being finished, though I'm not in the mood for much other than screwing around with clay today. Till tomorrow with that stuff then. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 14, 2015, 07:44:58 PM: It looks fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on August 14, 2015, 09:19:19 PM: Wow, love the way this turned out! :o
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 16, 2015, 01:16:08 PM: Pictures? Ack, all right...

The Morag Tong Assassin with a lick of paint on her. Her sword's enchanted, hence the weird blue effect on it (oi blame the game for making every piece of enchanted gear look like that. Imagine "hey your sword's glowing bright blue, damn must be enchanted, I'm staying the hell away from you/ ooh, lemme mug you for it").

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736932_md-Morag%20Tong%20Assassin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736933_md-Morag%20Tong%20Assassin.JPG)

A regular Dunmer bandit type. =P

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736934_md-Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736935_md-Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)

And err, a Scamp in a Pot. It'll be a treasure marker, or if I don't make that Scamp soon enough a stand in for that. I can't remember the manufacturer, but its part of a whole line of comedic goblins from the 90s.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736936_md-...Scamp%20in%20a%20Pot.JPG)

We'll see what I can manage to finish in time for a game on Tuesday. There's three more thugs being painted right now, though I don't think that the Nix-Hound will be done in time so I'll have to use a wolf as a stand in for that. Meh, see what happens.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on August 16, 2015, 04:03:50 PM: Like the house, the assassin and the bandit.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 16, 2015, 07:27:04 PM: More crap? More crap...

Two thugs and an archer.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736982_md-Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736983_md-Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736978_md-Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736979_md-Dunmer%20Thug.JPG)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736980_md-Dunmer%20Archer.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/16/736981_md-Dunmer%20Archer.JPG)

The second thug's made from the Frostgrave soldier's kit, just with a headswap. I'll probably use that kit for Nords, perhaps the Skaal, though I wanted to see how it'd work in Dunmer colours. The first one's another Deus Vult Steppe Warrior and the archer started as a Wargames Factory WWII soldier. Overall I think I prefer the Wargames Factory models for playing about with, if only because their easier to sculpt over entirely.

That's most of my warband done then barring: the Nix-Hound, another archer, two Imps (a Scamp and some other Daedra) and Major Demons (a Flesh Atronach and perhaps a Storm Atronach). Priority wise though its just that archer which I'm caring about as the rest I can proxy in the short term. He'll probably just be another guy in Chitin Armour for ease. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 21, 2015, 08:55:35 PM: I don't post for five days and let this thread drop to the second page of this board? Shame!

I think that I made mention of this thingy over in the Frostgrave sub-board at some point. Whilst playing a game I felt like I needed a specific token to represent the Wizard Eye spell from that game, so painted up a Mages Guild sigil onto a two pence piece and called it job's a good un'.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/21/738167_sm-Mages%20Guild%20Sigil.JPG)

Which looking at it, it could do well enough as one of those exploding runes from Skyrim. I only painted the sigil on one side, but I could stick another one the other - not so sure about that as I'll be blu-tacking this to walls, which could ruin the paint.

The first non-Dunmer mortal in this thread I think. Hey this counts! An unfortunate Outlander who has been inflicted with the Divine Disease of House Dagoth (Corpus to ye plebians). I picked up a few Reaper models yesterday which looked suitable for this, and this "Dreg" just shouted Lame Corpus to me.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/21/738165_sm-Lame%20Corpus.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/21/738166_sm-Lame%20Corpus.JPG)

Yes Corpus went the way of Dagoth Ur when he was killed, and I did say I was aiming for the period after the Red Year, but.... who cares? :)

Oh the other models are aimed at being: a Sixth House Ash Slave, a Thalmor Wizard and a Nord Warrior in Iron Armour. They're mostly being painted as is without many changes, though the Nord at least isn't half naked anymore. =P

The plan this week is to maybe make a ruined Hllalu building (like the ones found in Balmora) or perhaps to finish the mushroom ...which would have been done already, but I procrastinate a lot. We'll see how things turn out. Oh and my hard drive failed a few days ago and I lost a couple of hundred images collected for ideas for this.

(http://www.englishforum.ch/attachments/other-general/70689d1382080214-photo-printing-basel-great_success.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Furt on August 21, 2015, 09:19:22 PM: I loved the look of The Elder Scrolls in the day and I think you have captured that feeling really well.

Your Dunmer conversions are very cool. 8)

BTW where is the head on your second thug from - the one made from the Frostgrave soldier kit.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 21, 2015, 09:33:35 PM: Its a Perry Mahdist Ansar head with some extra hair poorly greenstuffed one. Second from the left IIRC. :)

(http://www.michtoy.com/michtoy2010/products/Picture4_PRM_SUD01_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 22, 2015, 12:16:18 AM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on August 21, 2015, 08:55:35 PM
I don't post for five days and let this thread drop to the second page of this board? Shame!

Hahaha, this is one of the busier places of LAF ;)

Sorry to hear about your hard drive.. :(

And I think you should do a ruined Hlaalu building. Mostly because I jus want to see it being done by you :D, I guess it would be wiser to finish the mushroom first though, before starting a new build..
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 22, 2015, 06:12:19 PM: Well I relented and didn't make the Hlaalu ruin as I really had other stuff to work on instead.

...So I just made an intact version of the same building. :D

Its so much easier to build something new than work up the courage to actually paint some. :(

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/22/738371_md-WIP%20Hllalu%20Building.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/22/738373_md-WIP%20Hllalu%20Building.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/22/738372_md-WIP%20Hllalu%20Building.JPG)

Its made in a similar manner to the Middle Eastern buildings which I've posted in the Cold War/ Modern board here, i.e. from some cut up cork floor sheeting. It measures 7 by 4.5 inches wide and 4.5 tall, though I think the perspective may be a bit screwed up in the picture as to me it looks larger (that or the model I used for scale is a bit smaller than my usual 28mms). I still need to populate it with furniture, but that'll be done after its painted. I'll probably use some of the 4grounds laser cut stuff. Some vases would be nice too, but I can't remember who sold me the last batch of those at a show - some research required. =P

With that I've also started painting an Ash Slave and that Nord warrior which I mentioned in my last post. I should have at least one of those up tomorrow if I'm not too tardy, or I don't find myself being distracted painting either of the two current terrain pieces... :)

(http://s10.postimg.org/sa8k4j2i1/House_Hlaalu_Architecture_2.jpg)

The gutting out curved bits are an optional piece which isn't present on all the buildings of this particular style in the game, this is the only picture that I could find though which wasn't from the wiki (which don't like being linked to without resizing themselves). Hmn, I need to redo the stairs the next time I make one of these so they include a lip too.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 22, 2015, 07:39:26 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on August 22, 2015, 06:12:19 PM

Its so much easier to build something new than work up the courage to actually paint some. :(

That's a nice quote, sounds so familiar... :D Could be my signature...

Quote from: Wyrmalla on August 22, 2015, 06:12:19 PM
this is the only picture that I could find though which wasn't from the wiki

If you need some pics, I can start Morrowind any minute and screenshot some photo's of buildings.. just let me know ;)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 22, 2015, 08:47:37 PM: Oh I could install the game too, though I don't want to be the guy who takes the blame for taking away a couple of hundred hours of someone's life... Images aren't a massive issue while I cover the well known bits and pieces at least. I was complaining about images ripped from that wiki resize themselves to thumbnail size when posted on forums. =/

I may go back to Morrowind whenever Tamriel-Rebuilt ever comes out (hah!). ...Or they at least finish the first release (i.e. the complete mainland before they go back and redo the original questline and locations).

On that subject, next on the building list. :D

(http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/sites/default/files/images/SwiftShot%202014-05-25%2003.49.35.809.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 22, 2015, 09:33:40 PM: Gosh. I thought the mushroom house was good, but that Hlaalu house looks perfect. Where's Caius Cosades?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 22, 2015, 10:04:27 PM: Ooh, on the subject of that fellow, if you ever happened to wonder what happened to him after the game:

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/caius-cosades-visit-uriel-viis-tomb

And... What happened to Vivec after the fall of the Tribunal:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HMTlozPtQr9uKSp6nyRu8z7JsF7ECkTEFEYckvdvUjI/edit

* What? That was a totally on topic response. :)

Though aye, expect Dunmer graffiti on these things and them to generally look quite dingy. Wonder where I can find little loose potions in 28mm actually...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 23, 2015, 01:51:27 AM: Its feck off o'clock. Here have a picture. :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738462_md-Nord%20Warrior.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738463_md-Nord%20Warrior.JPG)

Wonder what to use her as? Infantryman? Barbarian? Not a Templar, I'd use Indoril Ordinators for those. ;)

Bit o' tartan for tartan's sake.She's a Reaper Miniature's Female Barbarian ...just with more clothes on. For reference there's a link to the original below. What little armour she was wearing looked a bit like the Skyrim Iron armour, so I picked her up. :)

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/barbarian%20female/price/03700

I suppose that she's a Nord mercenary who crossed into Morrowind to make her fortune. Morrowind's a fractured country, so either as a treasure hunter in the ruins, a bodyguard, or a hireling to the remaining Great Houses, she's bound to find some money somewhere.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 23, 2015, 04:47:58 PM: And in a much dingier state than you may have expected, here's the first Hlaalu ruin.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738564_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738565_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738566_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738567_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/23/738568_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)

As per my Fallout stuff I decided to stick on a bit (hah) of graffiti to make it a bit more interesting to look at/ enhance the down and out look. It reads:

Front side: Thieves guild shadowmarks - "empty" - "Hlaalu", the remains of a house number above the door
Right Side: Hlaalu symbol with "traitors" beneath, "N'wah", Crossed Imperial Dragon with "Imperials Out"
Rear: Calling some guy a drunkard, "Fallen Gods" and House Dagoth sigil with "the dreamer is awake"
Left side: The meteor Baar Dur (intentionally mispelled) hanging above Vivec city

So there's my intact Hlaalu building. I may try my hand at a ruined one now ...which I may get away with making just out of the off cuts of that cork board that's left over from the first. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 23, 2015, 05:56:29 PM: Another shot of the interior. :)

(http://img00.deviantart.net/ee9c/i/2015/235/0/0/ruin_by_frufruhm-d96ukcj.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on August 24, 2015, 12:47:50 AM: Excellent thread - love your conversions. I enjoyed playing the game quite a bit too.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on August 24, 2015, 11:25:39 AM: A splendid ruined house. Did you make that brazier hanging on the outside wall or is it a bit from somewhere else?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 24, 2015, 06:21:43 PM: The Brazier's from the Mantic's Mars Attacks ruins set. You only get two of them per box though, so I wouldn't advise picking one of those up just for them.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on August 24, 2015, 08:46:25 PM: That ruin looks great! Now paint the mushroom house already ;)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Cymril on August 25, 2015, 10:45:34 PM: I never played Elder Scrolls, but I find your work great and the Telvanni are a treasure trove of inspiration for painting scheme for wizards. Thank you!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Noctuary on August 27, 2015, 09:27:06 PM: I see where you've been hiding Wyrmalla! N'wah!
In all seriousness after spending most of my high school life glued to morrowind I'll just say you've nailed everything you've put up so far IMO. The telvanni building looks right out of tel Mora. And your Hlaalu house building is on point. Looks like you ripped it right out of Balmora as well. Im eager to see some imperial buildings too.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 29, 2015, 04:54:35 PM: I need to post something, but sorry I've not been massively productive this week. So here, have a bamboo cart which I threw together in five minutes (missing a bit of greenstuff rope). :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/29/740097_md-WIP%20Bamboo%20Cart.JPG)

(http://www.screenloot.com/ps/fl/1481.jpg)

Thanks for the encouragement guys. Yes um... I'm still procrastinating over the mushroom house, though the second Hlaalu ruin's ready to paint (and probably will be before the mushroom, uh, sorry). I'd be aiming to make mostly Morrowind themed stuff, though once I have enough for a Hlaalu township I could always include an Imperial building in there to represent their influence (especially on the Hlaalu).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 29, 2015, 07:54:05 PM: And now painted stuff. :)

Remember this guy? He was a green way back on the first page of this thread, but as he'll count as an Infantryman in games of Frostgrave, a not great class, he's not really been a priority to have painted unfortunately.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/29/740118_md-Dunmer%20Bandit.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/29/740119_md-Dunmer%20Bandit.JPG)

Heh, and a cheap and cheerful paintjob on the cart. I may pick up some of those 4Grounds MDF carts to go along with this one, though if I can find loose cart wheels I could just make more of these.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/29/740120_md-Bamboo%20Cart.JPG)

I'm painting the second Hlaalu ruin at the moment, we'll just have to see if the amount of brown paint which I have left will hold out (...I should take a picture of my paint collection some time. Its like a ratio of four to one in favour of brown paint). As an aside does anyone know a source of miniature urns, vases, pots, baskets ...general Middle Eastern tat? Preferably stuff cheap enough to pick up on bulk, and broken vases, etc, would be useful too. I'll have a look myself, though asking other folks can be always helpful. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 30, 2015, 01:58:00 AM: A second Hlaalu ruin, this time in a rougher state than the first.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/30/740166_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/30/740167_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)

Graffiti reads: "Out Blashphemer" and in red "Sheogorath"

That's two of that design done, the next ruin that I make will be something different. Again I'll probably make an intact one first then one which is partly collapsed. Overall though I'm wondering if having the majority collapsed would be better? Maybe I make one intact and two collapsed? Hmn...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 30, 2015, 09:46:05 PM: One more ruin, this one's just made from whatever leftover corkboard's been left over from the other two. =P

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/30/740433_md-WIP%20Ruin.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on September 02, 2015, 09:23:30 PM: This week's WIPs. A Redoran Guard (sans his shield) and a Tang Mo mercenary from the far off land of Akavir. Both are just metal armatures with greenstuff on them. The ape head's by Crooked dice.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/2/741094_md-WIP%20Spearmen.JPG)

Oh and the pictures I used for reference if you were wondering. Unfortunately I didn't have a chimp head, so went with the ape one. Nobody complain about an ape having a tail ya hear! ;)

(http://www.3dapathy.com/sb/bonemold_sc.jpg)

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/4f3131bda36406d46a30349b65f29d50/tumblr_molwc0SLef1rlysmgo1_1280.png)

I won't lie, I prefer the Tang Mo of the two. Has more character to him. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on September 03, 2015, 05:28:17 AM: Great job emulating that Tang Mo artwork. And a badass painting it is. 8)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 05, 2015, 12:37:03 PM: I really love the buildings. More!

Good work on the miniatures too. I didn't realise there were ape-people in Akavir.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on September 08, 2015, 01:09:15 AM: Excuse the late hour of this post and well the lack of posting this week really. I've been trying to work through as many of those modern Middle Eastern buildings that I've been making for a friend as possible to free up my modelling scedule for the immediate future, so that's cut into my personal time a bit. ...That and I installed the Elder Scrolls Online ...for "research" reasons. =P

I did manage some things on the side of those buildings tonight though. I didn't finish it all, but did come up with this crap.

Here's a third ruin for my Hlaalu town board done. Luckily the painting on these isn't too complex, its being bothered to glue on all that sand which is a chore. No graffiti this time around, because people obviously had something better to do around the time their tagging spree came to this building... Something better to do involving snippy claws perhaps.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/7/742299_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/7/742300_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)

And the Tang Mo mercenary. Aye, there's all sorts in the Elder Scrolls world besides humans (considering that it started out as a home brew D&D setting). Akavir namely has tons of beast races, which according to the more recent, albeit fragmented, sources may have had a hand in wiping out/ assimilating the human empire there.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/7/742301_md-Tang%20Mo%20Mercenary.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/7/742302_md-Tang%20Mo%20Mercenary.JPG)

On the plates following what I posted here's a smattering of things, the priority of which is down to what tanks my fancy at the time. An Imperial soldier wearing Newt Scale armour's there. So's an Imperial Treasure Hunter. Besides that I have a stack of Reaper blister packs there to be torn through, and I'll probably be picking up more on Thursday come the local shop restocking. As far as more terrain goes that's up in the air and based on me finding more of that cork, though if that falls through that may be an excuse to finish that Mushroom. Youknow that mushroom which's been sitting there for like a month 90% painted.

Yeah I'm a bit of a dick when it comes to prioritizing. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on September 08, 2015, 10:35:08 AM: The ruin is really convincing! :D

The Tang Mo looks great- I wasn't so sure before the paint job, but I've to say it looks awesome now!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on September 09, 2015, 01:27:35 PM: Japanese monkeys. :D

I was considering making a Samurai style one, but that'd perhaps cross over too much with the human Akaviri and Morrowind's style of Orcish armour. Actually speaking of Orks I may wind up going for the Skyrim style rather than a direct Morrowind one, as I feel that suits them more. However a mix of the two styles on a ragtag looking Orcish bandit may be in order. :)

Blither, waffle... I didn't pick up any cork board this week, so nothing'll be happening on the ruin front. Threat not (that that anyone is), I'll find some other terrain piece of a sorts to throw together. I still have plenty of balsa...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on September 13, 2015, 02:50:35 PM: Weekend terrain bash out. Some bits to fill out the gaps between buildings. This is the first lot of market stalls I've slapped together, though I have a few more unpainted and could make some collapsed ones.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/13/743697_md-Market%20Stalls.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/13/743698_md-Market%20Stalls.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/13/743699_md-Market%20Stalls.JPG)

Just balsa as ever. Not sure if I'd make ones with cloth as they wouldn't hold up as well as wooden ones. Which is to say a ruined stall which had a cloth cover would just be a couple of sticks standing in the ground in a ruined marketplace (which don't hold up too well being shoved in a terrain box). Oh, there's some street signs in there too, not that anyone cares. ;)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on September 21, 2015, 06:58:28 PM: Pics & shiz.

I managed the Telvanni mushroom house over the weekend there. In order to merge it with the Hlaalu ruins I'd perhaps stick it in the middle of some ruined walls (along with loose giant mushrooms / roots) as though its been grown over the foundations.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/21/745678_md-Telvanni%20Mushroom%20House.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/21/745679_md-Telvanni%20Mushroom%20House.JPG)

More on that can be found earlier in the thread. Suffice to says its a polystyrene ball covered in milliput.

Besides that, here's a WIP of the next of the Hlaalu ruins (still sans milliput). A guard tower. I'll make another which is the mirror of this and ruined at some point. Design liberties were taken with this as the in-game one is just a solid block with a door at the bottom and a trap door at the roof, the exposed upper section is enclosed, which doesn't seem so interesting for playing with. I cut those bits open and added a signal fire, whilst still hopefully retaining the original look.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/21/745677_md-WIP%20Hlaalu%20Tower.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on September 22, 2015, 12:57:57 AM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on September 21, 2015, 06:58:28 PM
....still hopefully retaining the original look.

Ithink you succeeded, as i recognised it straight away!!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on September 22, 2015, 01:45:16 AM: I really like how solidly constructed your buildings are, very nice fits and clean lines etc. I assume you just learn this over time by trial and error and practice? Any references you'd recommend? I am unfortunately an impatient person with sometimes clumsy fingers, but I still love scratch building.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 05, 2015, 01:24:00 AM: @ Hupp n at em
Its typically that I just make a frame and stick the walls and bits over that. Those parts need to have something to stick to, so the end result's pretty solid. ...Which in part's due to me being fairly carefree when it comes to storing my terrain (chuck it all in a box without any foam). So its not that I go into it with the intention of building terrain with any strength, its just how things work out. That and the frames get away as being an extra bit of cheap detail. =P

Sorry folks, I've been dealing with a cold lately. Yup, that'll do as my latest excuse pulled from the bingo machine. :)

This week I threw together a little something to add a bit of diversity to the height of the buildings within the Hlaalu town. A stairway to nowhere...

(http://pre10.deviantart.net/e7b0/th/pre/i/2015/277/3/2/silt_strider_port_by_frufruhm-d9bz8lg.png)

Its a Silt Strider port based off of a picture I found on DeviantArt. I did take some liberties with that design by removing the canopies, as they'd just be asking to be broken. Still, its interesting to look at, and certainly whenever I get around to bringing all this terrain to my club I'd hope that this weirder looking stuff would make it all stand out (not that all my other terrain isn't different enough already).

(http://pre04.deviantart.net/b981/th/pre/i/2014/220/1/0/silt_strider_port__vivec__by_romandubina-d7uaz4z.jpg)

And here, have some more image spam. I may come back to this once I buy some more printer ink and add some Elder Scrolls themed posters to it (I have a fetish for posters and graffiti on my terrain if people haven't visited my Fallout blog...).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/5/748646_md-Silt%20Strider%20Port.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/5/748643_md-Silt%20Strider%20Port.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/5/748644_md-Silt%20Strider%20Port.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/5/748645_md-Silt%20Strider%20Port.JPG)

Right, if you've stuck around this long then ...I donno, lament for those five minutes of your life I've stolen. The guard tower's been undercoated, but I wound up running out of brown paint on this thing, so that'll have to hold back till I can find the time to buy some more. For some reason I buy tons of black paint (and churn through it), but only buy one pot of that particular brown colour at a time. ...I use that same colour for all of my bases and all of this Hlaalu stuff.

Planning!

Aye I'll try and have that painted some time this week. Low chances of anything other than terrain being worked right now, as I'd really like to have something which I can play with by the end of the year. Sorry if that timescale's a bit uninspiring, but well, Fallout's also coming out in like a month. =P

Ciao folks. :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on October 05, 2015, 12:57:26 PM: Looking great!!! Do you think you'll ever add a Silt Strider at some point?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 18, 2015, 05:15:18 PM: Ah hell, I let this thing drop onto the third page of this board. Hmn, I wonder what page my (not dead) S.T.A.L.K.E.R. thread has gotten to on the Post-Apocalyptic Tales board...?

@ LordOdo

I have a polysterene ball sitting there which is Silt Strider shaped. If I were to make one it'd probably be dead though. :(

Right, onto the spiel. I had this painted last week, but thought I'd try and buy some ink for my printer so I could add some posters to it. Stuff came up though, so that didn't happen, and there's no point in not posting this for another week. =P

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/18/751567_md-Hlaalu%20Guard%20Tower.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/18/751568_md-Hlaalu%20Guard%20Tower.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/18/751566_md-Hlaalu%20Guard%20Tower.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/18/751565_md-Hlaalu%20Guard%20Tower.JPG)

Damn, I forgot to stick the ladders into it! :P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on October 18, 2015, 10:30:27 PM: Looks reall great!

Could you take a photo of all your Eldar scrolls stuff at some point? I guess you got a (small) town already with quite some inhabitants! :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 19, 2015, 11:56:43 AM: Quote from: LordOdo on October 18, 2015, 10:30:27 PM
Could you take a photo of all your Eldar scrolls stuff at some point?

I support this motion!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 19, 2015, 04:54:48 PM: If you want to see what I have laid out on a kitchen table or the floor then be my guest, but it may be a few months before I have enough terrain for a table. Gimme till the weekend though when I have the time (...uh, I usually get home around six on week days, which sort of means that that table's being used for dinner and such). :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 19, 2015, 06:30:37 PM: If you follow my Fallout thread I made an Enclave Hellfire Trooper at work last week (now sitting awaiting a pair of arms). This week I'm going to have a go at a guy in Dwemer armour. Just an FYI. :)

(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120216133028/elderscrolls/images/e/ea/Dwemerconcept1.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 25, 2015, 05:55:02 PM: And here's the Dwemer warrior now sculpted. ...I may have not had the time to do any of this all week and rushed him today. :D

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/25/753088_md-Dwemer%20Armour%20WIP%20.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/25/753089_md-Dwemer%20Armour%20WIP%20.JPG)

The shield's still curing, so I haven't attached it yet. That and the base is too big. He was just on that so I had more purchase when sculpting. =P

Hmn, is casting too difficult? I'm considering making a copy of this guy and lopping the armour up to use as loot (youknow, loose helmets, shields, etc to lay about on shelves). Sculpting a helmet from scratch is a bit too much effort for a bit of decoration for a market stall, but if I had copies that would be a hell of a lot easier. ...I think. The same goes for that Enclave Hellfire trooper which I've been making for my Fallout stuff. He's done right now and ready to paint, but painting him means no making copies. =/
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on October 25, 2015, 06:03:36 PM: There's a putty called Oyumaru (and there are cheaper versions which they say work equally fine) that allows you to make simple moulds to copy bits with green stuff or any other epoxy putty (but gs recommended). That might suit you.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 26, 2015, 09:34:19 PM: I've ordered some of that Oyumaru stuff, we'll have to see how it pans out. :)

Let's see what crap I've churned out. First, for the sake of having it and because I can't paint it till I have some copies, here's the Dwemer Warrior with his shield.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/26/753361_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Warrior.JPG)

And from tonight, a lady in Light Dwemer Armour from the Elder Scrolls Online. Not super sure if she should be a mage with a staff, or have an axe. Erring towards the later.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/26/753385_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Light%20Armour.JPG)

(http://eso-fashion.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/11/DwemerLight_Front.jpg)

Plus some other early WIPs. That armature in the bottom right turned into the above warrior. =P

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/10/26/753362_md-Elder%20Scrolls%20WIP.JPG)

From left to right: Alit, Kwama Warrior, Dwemer Warrior, random shields (not all done).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: commissarmoody on October 26, 2015, 10:09:09 PM: You really need to scan these guys into a 3d printer so we can all have some of your creations. lol
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Ahistorian on October 26, 2015, 10:18:35 PM: Great work! Morrowind was the first game I ever really got sucked into, so it's fantastic to see how you're bringing it to life!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Kommando_J on October 27, 2015, 09:20:02 PM: Loving the thread, always wanted to do something frostgrave related for skyrim now that we are spoiled for choice for Nord stand-ins, why not kick it old-school and go for the old morrowind dwemer ''armour''? it'd be far easier to do as it's essentially a gutted robot beaten into armour so far less intricate than actual dwemer armour.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on October 29, 2015, 09:15:35 AM: I attempted starting on a second (wait, third) Dwemer Warrior yesterday, but well, maybe sculpting at work isn't the best idea (well, at least on busy days). Suffice to say not much was done at all on that front, but we'll see how much I can progress with that after work or at the weekend.

In other news I should be able to paint up a Kwama Forager which I made yesterday though. Its not brilliant, but chalk that up to it only taking about five minutes to make. What? Its a horde creature, I don't need to care about no stinking details! :)

Ah, and I picked up some of that Oyamuru stuff too. Early attempts aren't promising though. I'm not sure if it takes well to copying over greenstuff rather than plastic. Plastic is harder and has more defined edges, whilst the clay's not leaving very good imprints in the material. The Dwemer shield which I'm using to test with is coming out looking like it was made from chocolate... I'll see about leaving the stuff to heat for longer, but if it is having difficulties with greenstuff then it may not be viable.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on November 01, 2015, 07:37:07 PM: I'm painting up the two Dwemer Warriors right now, but didn't have the time to finish those today. Instead have something which I threw together this morning instead.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/s/i/gallery/img/2015/11/1/754814_md.JPG)
(http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/beast_morrowind_sleeperascended.png)

In Frostgrave this would count as a Necromage, but Morrowind players will probably know it better as an Ascended Sleeper. Its mounted on a 25mm base right now, but I'll boost it up to a 30mm one before its done to give it more of a presence. Its all greenstuff bar a pair of Mantic Ghoul arms, and aye, the tentacles aren't finished.

...Yes I am aware that the Sixth House ended after the fall of Dagoth Ur, but whatever, that's no excuse to pass on making a cool model. =P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Knightofspades on November 02, 2015, 06:34:08 PM: Awesome sculpts and houses. The graffiti looks really authentic.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 02, 2015, 10:32:32 PM: The sleeper looks great!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on November 07, 2015, 03:26:50 PM: Quickly, update this thread before it falls off the first page!

The Ascended Sleeper's being painted right now along with an Ash Slave, but they fell by the wayside a little under a torrent of Tv series binging. :(

Here's what has been painted though.

The first Dwemer Warrior, the one based on the Skyrim Heavy Armour (no idea where the one in the Morrowind set lost itself).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/11/7/755931_md-Dwemer%20Warrior.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/11/7/755932_md-Dwemer%20Warrior.JPG)

A second Dwemer Fighter in the Elder Scrolls Online Light Armour set.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/11/7/755933_md-Dwemer%20Fighter.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/11/7/755934_md-Dwemer%20Fighter.JPG)

Plus two quickies on the side. A Kwama Forager.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/11/7/755935_md-Kwama%20Forager.JPG)

And a Dark Brotherhood Assassin, made from some anonymous succubus model which I lopped the wings off of. She's painted in the Skyrim style, and well I was just looking for a way to use the model, thus why it isn't a like for like with the in game armours.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/11/7/755936_md-Dark%20Brotherhood%20Assassin.JPG)

Sorry for any lack of focus with those, posting this before I go out. Really need to change that background to blue instead of orange so there's more contrast instead of everything being brown... :)

Crap and I still haven't finished that damn Enclave Hellfire Trooper for Fallout. Ack, need to find the model. Its gone the ways of the Morrowind Dwemer Armour suit too. :(
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 05, 2015, 09:45:36 AM: Yo, pics. Live ...from a train!

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/5/762101_md-WIP%20Ash%20Vampire.JPG)

Its an Ash Vampire. ...Because yeah, for some reason I'm making House Dagoth models despite those guys all being dead after the events of Morrowind.

Based on this cosplay of Dagoth Ur, with a few less details so she's more generic. =P
(http://orig10.deviantart.net/d7d9/f/2015/282/f/c/the_house_of_dagoth_cosplay_set_by_whitedemon19-d9cgdbv.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: nullBolt on December 05, 2015, 09:52:35 AM: Absolutely brilliant. You should start producing these under some generic name.

Quote from: Wyrmalla on December 05, 2015, 09:45:36 AM
<snip>

I... Don't know how I feel about Rule 63 Dagoth Ur.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 05, 2015, 10:00:05 AM: She's one of these thingies. The head plate thing is undetailed as it keeps falling off. I'll wait for it to dry and then do that, or just paint on a pattern.

(https://i.imgur.com/pMgip9Q.png)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 05, 2015, 10:01:36 AM: Also making this, but its lying in bits right now and I have to glue it back together. :(

(http://pre05.deviantart.net/1964/th/pre/f/2015/300/b/8/ancestor_skeleton_by_swietopelk-d9egee9.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: nullBolt on December 05, 2015, 10:35:59 AM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on December 05, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
She's one of these thingies. The head plate thing is undetailed as it keeps falling off. I'll wait for it to dry and then do that, or just paint on a pattern.

I meant the cosplay itself. :p

Seriously though, you're doing some great stuff here. I'd love a war game / miniatures with some Morrowind-esque weirdness in it's aesthetics without having to play the awful generic bad guys.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 07, 2015, 01:22:33 PM: A pity that later games in the series went for more generic aesthetics then, especially considering nearly all of the Dunmer outfits were made from some sort of animal product. I'll need to make some more fighters for this, so expect me probably greenstuffing up a few things through the week. ...Even if I have a half dozen Fallout/ Stalker models already sitting there.

Currently in the works for this project though (discounting the backlog) are: that Ash Vampire, the Ascended Sleeper and another ruin. I have a game tomorrow, so hopefully I can manage as much terrain as possible, though luckily the ruins don't take much to make. :P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM: I probably should have painted some models this week, but instead I just managed some terrain and rushed through some sculpting today.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/13/763975_md-WIPs.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/13/763974_md-WIPs.JPG)

From front left to rear right:
- Chitin Armoured warrior
- Bonemold Armoured Telvanni Mage (I'll paint on the patterns)
- Redoran Watchman
- Bone Armoured Ancestor Skeleton
- Indoril Ordinator

Source concept art, mostly from the TesRenewal mod below in case you wonder.

(http://pre05.deviantart.net/0741/th/pre/f/2015/191/b/4/moon_and_star_by_mezamero-d90r558.jpg)
(http://pre14.deviantart.net/0697/th/pre/f/2015/321/d/1/bonemold_armours_by_swietopelk-d9h2hdu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vq1UCX6.jpg)

Plus a bit of terrain. I'll need another couple of these to play a proper game of Frostgave with, having already played one and found the table to have been a bit sparse. =/

A collapsed manor house.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/12/763672_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)

And an intact home.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/12/763670_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/12/763671_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)

Toodles. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: DeafNala on December 13, 2015, 09:23:23 PM: The miniatures & buildings are WONDERFUL with an appealing alien quality to them. OUTSTANDING WORK!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: frenchfever on December 14, 2015, 12:33:46 AM: greta art and design ! :-*
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 23, 2015, 02:25:26 PM: I had a game yesterday, so rushed through painting these overnight. Unfortunately I forgot to take any pictures of the actual board. =/

Another Telvanni wizard. As I'm playing a Frostgrave campaign this one may wind up replacing the existing apprentice wearing a Molecrab Helmet at some point.

(http://img03.deviantart.net/f9ca/i/2015/357/2/f/telvanni_mage_by_frufruhm-d9l5hpa.jpg)

An Ancestor Skeleton construct (made by taking a regular skeleton and adding some extra bones to it - the cloth bits cover up the joins). They guard Dunmer tombs along with other necromatic creatures (which never made it into the actual game, for instance Nix Hound exo-skeletons with priest's skulls for heads).

(http://img08.deviantart.net/3cc3/i/2015/357/e/a/ancestor_skeleton_by_frufruhm-d9l5hi5.jpg)

Another Chitin Armoured warrior. I avoided using as much white this time around, which I think looks better.

(http://img12.deviantart.net/8f4b/i/2015/357/9/8/chitin_warrior_by_frufruhm-d9l5gyr.jpg)

A Bonemold armoured Redoran Watchman.

(http://img06.deviantart.net/58e8/i/2015/357/6/4/redoran_watchman_by_frufruhm-d9l5gof.jpg)

And an Indoril Ordinator. The leg's pose is crap. =P

(http://img06.deviantart.net/7051/i/2015/357/9/8/ordinator_by_frufruhm-d9l5h8k.jpg)

Tangentially I've been asked to make some models for the Numenera RPG setting. I could start a new thread for those, but seeing as I already have three ongoing ones I think I'll just stick them in here. ...Even if the first model I made is a mage in a space suit. :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on December 23, 2015, 09:52:02 PM: Oooh fantastic!! I really love those!!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Miantanomo on December 28, 2015, 12:44:39 AM: Just saw this thread for the first time and bing-read through it! What great work! I love the sculpts and can't wait to see where you go next with this!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 28, 2015, 01:15:26 PM: Feel free to be dissapointed then Miantanomo then, because I'm clean out of Elder Scrolls models for this thread this week. ...Um, I just can't be bothered creating another thread for this crap. :D

I've been asked to make some models for the Numenera RPG setting by someone at my club. My knowledge of that particular game isn't very deep, but I know its broad enough that I can get away with a lot.

As a test run I've had a go at making models for each of the game's three major classes: Glaive , Jack and Nano (Warrior, Rogue and Mage). Here's the greens of each, I'll be painting them throughout the week hopefully.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/28/766818_md-WIP%20Numenera%20Characters.JPG)

I'll have to see what she thinks when I give her the models. I'm not sure if they're too heavily armoured for a generic adventuring party (hey Rogues can wear plate armour). Trial and error I suppose. Expect the Glaive to be painted in brown/ orange, Jack to be red/white and Nano in a grey/blue.

And yes, all that ruffled cloth was a real pain in the ass. ;)

Here's a Nord Bandit as well. Thirs was originally for the Numenera stuff, but decided it was looking too low-fantasy like for that setting. He still needs a bit of touching up, but he'll do for posting at the moment.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/28/766819_md-WIP%20Bandit.JPG)

I'll need those first three painted for next week. On top of those I have a couple of portacabins and sheds for my S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stuff, though, well, that's for another thread. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: YPU on December 28, 2015, 02:07:13 PM: You keep on bringing that authentic elder scrolls style, very nice.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: DeafNala on December 28, 2015, 02:58:15 PM: It's all SO WONDERFULLY creepy...it brings the Dark Sun setting to my mind (such as it is). All VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on December 29, 2015, 06:12:13 AM: Dude, your sculpting has improved leaps and bounds, seriously impressive stuff here! 8)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on February 07, 2016, 08:50:29 PM: I've not been in much mood for painting, or taking pictures of what I have finished lately, but well, here's what I've managed since last year. :)

A Kwama Warrior (originally starting out as a Reaper Miniatures Ice Horror - or whatever its called -, then resculpted).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/2/7/777337_md-Kwama%20Warrior.JPG)

Its based on the Elder Scrolls Online version, as oposed to the original. The big difference is that rather than being a symbiote of a Kwama Worker and worm like Forager, they're just straight soldier ants. :P

An Ascended Sleeper.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/2/7/777339_md-Ascended%20Sleeper.JPG)

The Ash Priestess from yonks ago...

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/2/7/777340_md-Ash%20Priestess.JPG)

A wee Argonian bandit, made from a Achtung Cthulhu Deep One. All I did was give it some weapons and a snout (thus the fish eyes).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/2/7/777338_md-Argonian%20Bandit.JPG)

Random Chitin Armoured bandit.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/1/31/774986_md-Glaive.JPG)

Plus a pair of WIPs. A Redoran Guardsman and a Skyrim style Chitin armoured warrior.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/2/7/777321_md-WIP%20Morrowind%20shiz.JPG)

Besides from Morrowind, here's the Numemera stuff painted up as well. In future I think I'll go for more of a sci-fi look with these, and probably tone down the amount of armour too. We'll see. :P

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/1/11/770078_md-Nano.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/1/11/770076_md-Glaive.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/1/31/774984_md-Glaive.JPG)

To plan then with this stuff is ...um. Wells there's more WIPs laying about, but whether I finish any of those is up in the air. As for terrain though I'm making some sets of scaffolding. The idea's so as to make the boards look more ruinous/ enable 3D movement. Bitch to paint though.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on February 07, 2016, 10:41:58 PM: OOhhh great update!! :o
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 17, 2016, 07:16:16 PM: Long time no update.

Heh, I have a dozen skeletons half painted and a load of ruins. But no! Not for you!

Have an fugly looking mini.
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/17/800752_md-WIP%20Orsimer.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/17/800753_md-WIP%20Orsimer.JPG)

An Orc Warrior. ...I think.

(http://www.artrix.co.uk/media/2495/labyrinth-3.png)

Its based on this, but the nose guard makes it look like a comedy goblin. I might just redo the whole face with a Samurai style mask?

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13245473_1202355233138674_1595157665728139996_n.jpg?oh=ee8d9d081c241f31e81661348e92307a&oe=579AFA19)

I think its just my sculpting style.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/15/800198_md-Kev%20Day%20Head.JPG)

On the back of that I've started on a Hlaalu Guardsman. I'm running a Frostgrave game's day at the end of the month, so ideally I need a load more of those ruins finished. In a perfect world I'd bother my arse to make a crap ton of mushroom trees too.

Though that does sort of remind me that I've had this thing sitting beneath my (literal) terrain pile for like three months.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/17/800756_md-WIP%20Mushroom%20House.JPG)

#Literal Terrain Pile
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/17/800757_md-Literal%20Terrain%20Pile.JPG)

That's where that ruler got to! ...Ignore the taste in books, some of that's there for childhood nostalgia (honest). :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Noctuary on May 17, 2016, 08:03:43 PM: Love the orcish, I'll be pestering you for a cast when its finished lol
Did you not like the morrowind original?
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/5/54/Orcish_Helm.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151107212811)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 17, 2016, 08:26:50 PM: I based it off of that piece of concept art for a Skyrim mod. That looks like a mix between the Morrowind and Oblivion sets.

The Oblivion set was stupid.

Hmn, I may lop off the face and give it a mask instead. That nose guard makes it look like it has a massive snoz. For comparison, here's the head beneath the helmet.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13227073_1202354643138733_3799144801326675684_n.jpg?oh=4c767cdf4a568f55e9c1de28c76bdb88&oe=57D338F8)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on May 17, 2016, 08:46:38 PM: Oh, how I missed this thread. Your sculpting skills are awesome, I definitely see an improvement from the miniatures on the first post.
Now, show us those skeletons and those ruins. Don't make me ask for it twice :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: pelonas on May 18, 2016, 11:08:03 AM: These are awesome! What a great thread all round, from ideas, sculpting and painting. Nice execution :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 18, 2016, 07:28:10 PM: (https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/65687375.jpg)

Nothing painted. Depending on laziness I'll either sculpt (the lazy option) or paint something. ...You'd think the later was the lazy option given my painting style. :D

Orc Samurai Mk2. ...Not so derpy face.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/18/800926_md-WIP%20Orsimer%20Mk2.JPG)

I skipped on the detail on the left hand as its being covered by a shield. Oh and the arms are too long as I didn't take the hands into account properly. Bonus points for being too lazy to redo them.

For round two of the armatures: the start on a warrior in Hlaalu style Bonemold.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/18/800927_md-WIP%20Hlaalu%20Guard.JPG)

Hmn, I'm curious about whether to leave him as a guy in just regular Bonemold like the Balmora guards, or to tart him up and use him as a captain in Frostgrave? This stuff doesn't really have a practical intent when it comes to making rosters. There'll be a sword in a guarding position in the right hand if the pose looks a bit off. :P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Noctuary on May 18, 2016, 08:26:34 PM: My vote goes to bonemold for sure.
Also I really dig the new helmet on the orcish. Stop procrastinating and paint already lol
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on May 18, 2016, 09:40:14 PM: This is making me want to sculpt my own miniatures, but then I remember that a few weeks ago I tried to sculpt just a skull mask and it didn't end well.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 19, 2016, 09:53:44 PM: Have a thing.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/19/801123_md-WIP%20Hlaalu%20Bonemold.JPG)

He's short details on the arms and weapons. I'm not sure about the pose. Either he'll have a sword in his right hand, or a sword and shield combo.

I'd have had it finished, but I get the time when its quiet at work in the morning, and when I'm home in the evening. But, well, I'm sitting trying to sort out a script error with Skyrim right now, so he'll have to be pauldron-less for another day yet.

I'll get onto painting crap at the weekend. :P

And the reference:

(http://i.imgur.com/AkELygc.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Noctuary on May 19, 2016, 11:48:02 PM: What about shield in the right and sword in the left? Almost on the defensive waiting to counter.
Also the sculpt is turning out.
Not sure if I could get away with sculpting at work lol
Lucky dog.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 28, 2016, 08:12:34 PM: Pictures from 2 games of Frostgrave which I played today; scenarios 1 & 2 from the Thaw of the Lich Lord campaign. I didn't take many pictures, but my opponent did, so I may be able to wrangle a link to those from her eventually.

Game 1 - plot summary - there's gold in them their hills/ generic loot everything that moves.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/28/803163_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)

The terrain is a mix of the club's old balsa Mordheim stuff and Warlord Games plastic ruins (which are quite nice), over a table cloth and with some woodland trees with snow scatter glued to them.

Not my own stuff obviously, but that white cloth and the trees are such an improvement.

The game devolved into a scrum in the middle of the table between most of the models. Unfortunately my opponent wound up being stuck fighting a trio of oddly strong ghouls for most of the game. We both came away with loot and no major losses however.

Notably the Lich Lord's item table is really interesting. I'd be glad to see similar stuff with the next book. I came away with a buff for a school of magic I didn't use, which amounted to my wizard throwing the glowing vials out of his safehouses' window to watch the pretty colours. Similarly the other player was landed with a really good summon armoured skeleton spell (I have just the model...), but she wasn't a necromancer. Good thing too, as next game we both oddly came away with an item which allowed us to include undead hating Reindeer in our parties. :)

Game 2- um, as the plot's written - there's a ship stuck in the center of a frozen river, where an evil mage is about to uncover a treasure which both forces desire.

...Or by the terrain which we had to hand: there's the remains of a Silt Strider port with a random Dwemer Statue stuck on top because it looks cool (oddly missing from this shot), which an Ash Priest is going to randomly appear at turn three. Its your job to gank her and steal her goodies.

Oi, you do what you can with what you have. ;)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/28/803164_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)

Missing from that shot is a guard tower which two archers turned anything which came out of cover into pin cushions from. We both ran our warbands up to top of the first stair case and a scrum commenced. My own lot barely made it off the scaffolding. As the evil mage appeared with the treasure, the forces sent to ambush her were more concerned about killing each other, so she just strolled down the stairs behind their backs.

Then had a bone shard thrust through her chest before a templar leaped away with the treasure.

...Every time someone uses that spell I think of that scene with the bridge keeper from The Holy Grail. ::)

Prizes for this game was one dead Akaviri mercenary on my side (my first ever actually dead guy for me playing Frostgrave), and four wounded fellows on the other. Loot was better this time around - though I managed to shoot myself in the foot when reaching to steal a piece of treasure when I accidentally summoned a hostile Fire Atronach on top of it. Bar the Reindeer bell, I nabbed a vampiric sword which I need to find a model to give to. I am short a warrior, and those captain rules look interesting....

As for actual pictures of minis. I finished 10 basic skeletons (out of the box Mantic ones, I'll convert the other 10. Though, not to go on a tangent, if you're needing skellies those are awesome), two more ruins and, had I not been a lazy sod last night, would have came away with three new sets of barricades. That's all in a box right now though, so I'll need to filch it all out of there some time.

At this second though, what do you think of this mini for a Vigilant of Stendarr?

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/28/803165_md-Vigilant%20of%20Stendarr%3F.JPG)

Which in retrospect wouldn't really fit in with my Telvannis considering they're Daedra worshippers (it got to be a joke how often I was summoning and possessing my own models with demons today). Saying that I do have unpainted models there for Nords...

We're planning on playing the full campaign of Thaw of the Lich Lord hopefully. In which case I may need to make stuff for the scenarios. The next one involves a group of cultists trying to retrieve their treasure from a broken down cart. I have some roads there for the cart to go on, and I like the idea of a piece like the one in the bottom right of the picture below going over it.

(http://orig10.deviantart.net/bb8b/f/2014/216/6/5/skywind___mages_guilds_by_verticae-d7tnusf.png)

And I'm waffling... I'll see what I can do about things tomorrow. Hopefully next week will be quiet at work, so I may be able to make a Captain for my warband. Additionally, and this really pissed me off, I upgraded my Apprentice model with a new one to show progression during a campaign a while ago (and because the old one's crap), but didn't do the same with my Wizard.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/9/735127_md-Telvanni%20Apprentice.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/12/23/765912_md-Telvanni%20Mage.JPG)

I'm kind of thinking something like this for the Mk2 Wizard. Though ideally I aught to be making ones for the other Houses. :/

(http://api.ning.com/files/wyK9bAs*AkXpSW*8WPdduDvEB9bkTU6p4Hzy5DIwHF4Y4JTJsbiclBD-QIDJMbb4OwQU7N4sj6CiGLZk6QZQjcbFLIz9qeAi/telvanni_master_by_swietopelkd78bkub.jpg)
(http://pre14.deviantart.net/d852/th/pre/i/2014/319/4/5/telvanni_wizard_redesign_by_talfox-d86ha55.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 29, 2016, 09:35:41 PM: A random tower (in a state of repair before being abandoned).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/5/29/803345_md-WIP%20Morrowind%20tower.JPG)

There's a road beneath to attach to some resin ones I have to hand to go with a scenario I'll maybe play in a few weeks. For games of Frostgrave all those levels and cover will be great.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on May 30, 2016, 01:44:31 PM: Another gem of a building. :-*
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 30, 2016, 03:07:03 PM: Well currently I'm at work with some downtime, so I'm just sculpting random bits and bobs.

I'm having a go at this guy:

(http://i.imgur.com/CEomrqk.jpg)

Though not sure what to use him as. I'm short of two-handed weapon wielders, so may go for one of those. Similarly I need upgraded archers, but Bonemold is a bit too heavy for them (unless I go for a stripped down set).

Anything, just not another Knight. I've found that Knights can be fairly beardy. In Frostgrave they have a high armour value. My Wizard also has the Possess spell, which buffs armour, and the shield spell, which does the same. Unless the enemy buffs their damage, they're a tough nut to crack.

...Which is to say that as players we all aught to learn more willpower based attacks.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 02, 2016, 10:33:25 PM: Super duper awesome post away!

...Wait, that's those other threads. :)

Things are mostly in a work in progress state right now. I may as well post my current greens though.

A fellow in the above Bonemold armour. His left leg's a bit squiffy looking on account of it being stuck in the wrong armature hole.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/2/804546_md-WIP%20Templar.JPG)

Also the lighting and focus is terrible in that one. C'est la vie :P

Hmn, I may give him a Dwemer Warhammer in his left hand and use him as a Templar. Not another Knight. God I have too many of those bloody things.

I started on this lady today.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/2/804545_md-WIP%20Ranger.JPG)

Pretty early, but she'll be a Ranger for Frostgrave - with a drawn sword in her right hand and a bow in her left. I'm going for a stripped down Bonemold set to count as leather armour rather than mail, but set her aside from a regular archer.

And the really interesting part. Roads.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/2/804544_md-Dirt%20Track%20Roads.JPG)

48'' worth took me all of an hour from start to finish to make. It shows. ;)

100% less hassle than my Fallout road sections. :)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/5/26/716795_md-26%252F05%252F15-3.JPG)

I bought a few sections of these at a show a few years ago. ...Making the dumb mistake to buy only one pack. ...Even though they were super cheap.

Fffffffffff....!!!

They'd be easy enough to make myself (those are resin). They're for the third scenario in the Thaw of the Lich Lord campaign, where a cart laden with goods has fallen over in the city ruins. They'll attach to the tower with bridge which I posted earlier, to make contesting the treasure funner. :)

The goal's to have that tower, at least the Ranger (possibly the Hlaalu guard, which damn I should have posted finished) and a couple of barricades done for a game on Tuesday. With a campaign structure, along with set pieces in each game, that kind of pushes me to bother my arse to actually complete stuff. :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 05, 2016, 04:26:55 PM: Maybe not the update which was planned (damn, I would have liked to have had that tower finished), but blame that on my "ooh shiny" tendencies.

With Into the Breeding Pits coming out, and my love for dungeon crawlers, I thought it'd be cool to get into that setting. The plan was just to use my club's stuff. However we have a tiny bit of the Dwarven Forge stuff, and a load of Heroclix style copy and paste bits. Neither really usable for a decent board.

So I thought I'd try my hand at some. ...And start yet another bloody project.

Early days, but here's what I managed overnight.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/5/805175_md-WIP%20Cave%20System.JPG)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/5/805176_md-WIP%20Cave%20System.JPG)

They smallest pieces are 4'' by 4'', with everything else being a multiplication of that. The 8'' by 8'' will be the main mass of the table, but I'm sticking in the weirder pieces for gap filling.

The plan's to start out with the generic bits and then start adding in details like tombs in the walls, ores/ geodes, etc. From there may then I'd start adding Dwemer bits. I'd considered including a mine or Dunmer ancestral tomb, but the Dwemer stuff would look cooler.

How does the rock texture look? I was going for something like sandstone.

I've tried modular dungeon sets before, but never made it further than the test pieces. Any advise for making these things? I'm already banging my head and tidying up the edges so there isn't massive gaps. :(

Hmn, and now I'm wondering just how much of this stuff an Into the Breeding Pits game would require? A 1 by 1 board? 2 by 2? ...3 by 3? 0.o
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on June 05, 2016, 08:06:43 PM: The texture is very convincing, it looks like a cavern from the Elder Scrolls. Why don't you add some glowing fungi on the walls (though they are from Skyrim, iirc).
Which putty do you use, Milliput?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 05, 2016, 08:34:26 PM: I'm sticking with yellow milliput right now, though there's officially no sticks left for sale in Glasgow. ...I bought them all up yesterday.

Yeah, maybe I should find somewhere online to buy them.

Regular clay may work, though I'm not sure it holds the detail the same?

I'm not sure at this point what theme to give these tunnels. Right now I'd rather keep them as generic caves.

Saying that there's always fungal caves:

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/7/76/Fungal_Grotto_Concept_Art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130816212134)

Hmn, a bit over the top, but its not as if the odd mushroom's too difficult to add after the rocks are done.

There's Skyrim's Falmer/ Dwemer caves:

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/c439efca2c9246b4b77ab1daa9ed98c9/tumblr_n01wohZtPd1suas8zo3_1280.jpg)

Which I think are too specific to Skyrim, and a bit too Underdark for my taste.

And Kwama Mines:

(http://www.elderscrollsguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Darkshade-Caverns.jpg)

Darkshade Caverns is a location from the Elder Scrolls Online which I quite like to the look of (not just because I was there in the game so much...). It'd be easy enough to swap out one of the larger tiles and a couple of small ones to have Kwama eggs on them.

That location is also good because it winds up leading into a Dwemer ruin if you go deep enough. Nor is it difficult to add balsa roof supports to give the mine look.

I have a basic 24'' by 24'' layout worked out so far for a simple table. That includes 16 tiles. Again, I've no idea how much space a Into the Breeding Pits scenario will need but that looks enough for a small game so far.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Noctuary on June 07, 2016, 05:29:44 AM: Love the modular tiles and I think you are on the right track. Your build reminds me of a project I've been eyeing.
(https://daggerandbrush.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/img_5426.jpg)
Also instead of miliput, do you have access to thicker foam chunks. You could use that for he bulk of the walls then miliput your fine details. Not sure which would cost you more. Foam is cheap/ free for me
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 07, 2016, 11:24:57 AM: I'd planned just foam, but felt the need to smear milliput everywhere. Milliput though doesn't lend itself to jagged shapes without letting it set first, and so I've gone with a sandstone look.

I donno, I've started that way so I feel like following it through. Though aye, the cost of the clay might run away a bit.

In the long term I'm only going to have a 2 by 2 cave table. The rest will be Dwemer stuff hopefully, so lots of flat metal.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: srba on June 07, 2016, 08:15:00 PM: This is really staggering and inspiring. Amazing work. I'd love to see a few more 'group shots' of your collection.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 07, 2016, 11:08:01 PM: Heh, thanks man. :D

Well I played a game tonight, so aught to find some pictures to throw up of the table itself. We were running late, so I didn't take many pictures of the game though.

Leave it till tomorrow, then I'll bother my arse to pull the terrain I painted, but didn't post here, out of the box for pictures too.

Speaking of that game, I'm pondering the implications of being able to summon an undead hating undead Rangifer. :)

Scenario four in the campaign's fairly generic, so the next week or so's minis will be going back to the sculpts I started or working on the cave stuff (unless something else crops up, as its like to do).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 08, 2016, 07:54:47 PM: Right, here's some bits and bobs for y'all to gander at.

I'd forgotten to post these ruins, so here's more of the generic Hlaalu homes. These ones have posters and hanging moss for a bit of variety at least.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806079_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806080_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806078_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806077_md-Hlaalu%20Ruin.JPG)

Still more of those to finish...

I rushed this so I could have it for a game. Here's that tower I'd posted. Functionally I don't even know what its supposed to be? A house? Toll booth? Small chapel? Uh...

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806081_md-Hlaalu%20Tower.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806082_md-Hlaalu%20Tower.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806084_md-Hlaalu%20Tower.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806083_md-Hlaalu%20Tower.JPG)

And pictures of last night's board. I hadn't the time to take many in game pictures unfortunately as we started a bit later than we'd intended.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806072_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806075_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806073_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806074_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)

Specifically though, I did take a picture of the start of a scrum in the middle of the board. The scenario was that a cart with treasure had thrown a wheel in the middle of the board, and it was up to the players to murder everyone and steal the treasure.

Queue the cart's owners being murderilized over the first two turns then a dozen player models stabbing each other for the rest of the game.

...We were both cheeky enough to have thieves sneak in behind the combats and steal all the loot away though.:)

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806076_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)

I lost a third of my warband. My opponent lost a dog. No biggee though, as dead guys mean I can replace them with new minis (notably I'll be sticking a Captain in I think).

Ah, and here's my forgetting, here's my warband going into the game. 3 Treasure Hunters, 3 Knights, 2 Rangers, 1 Rangifer (...the big bug), a Warhound, and my Wizard and their Apprentice.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/8/806071_md-Frostgrave%20Game.JPG)

The next game in the campaign will involve skeletons and some altars, so there's an excuse for me to finish painting those fellers and make some Reclamations shrines. :)

(http://i.imgur.com/Qkvmhm1.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: srba on June 08, 2016, 09:22:03 PM: I love all of this. Your warband looks so unique.

I just found the Bones model you based your insect creature on. I will definitely be picking one up to use as an Umber Hulk for my Mind Flayer warband.

Your buildings are incredible. Do you use them for anything besides Frostgrave?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 09, 2016, 09:08:21 AM: The plan's to scrap the Dunmer and make some Imperials (with foreign mercenaries possibly) whenever we eventually finish the current campaign. I already have a few chucking about half painted (oddly enough including a tunnel rat).

I've been keeping my eye out for more of those Ice Horrors (...still can't remember their exact name), for beasties to go in the caves. I already have plenty of gribbly things, but the bugs are cool.

Well the building's are a bit too fantasy styled for the other settings I play. I could use them for middle-eastern games, but only the odd one, and I already made a friend a load of that stuff, he just needs to paint it.

The caves would do for my other stuff though. Even if those are fantasy styled they'd fit the weird science of Fallout and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (well, bar the Dwemer bits).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on June 09, 2016, 07:01:48 PM: Impressive to see all the warband gathered, specially considering that there might be more green stuff there than the original material of the figures.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: srba on June 09, 2016, 07:30:36 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on June 09, 2016, 09:08:21 AM
The plan's to scrap the Dunmer and make some Imperials (with foreign mercenaries possibly) whenever we eventually finish the current campaign. I already have a few chucking about half painted (oddly enough including a tunnel rat).

Wait... what? Abandon these beauties? That's bad enough in itself, but for Imperials? Imperials are so... ordinary. They're just Romans, right? I'm very interested too see how they look all the same and I'm sure you'd do an amazing job of them.

Now a Thalmor warband: that would be something worth looking at.

EDIT: Out of interest, is your fallout terrain for 'This is not a test'?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on June 09, 2016, 07:57:33 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on June 09, 2016, 09:08:21 AM
The plan's to scrap the Dunmer and make some Imperials (with foreign mercenaries possibly) whenever we eventually finish the current campaign. I already have a few chucking about half painted (oddly enough including a tunnel rat).

Not scrap the actual models themselves, right? :o :o :o Just move on in terms of what warband you are playing in the next Frostgrave campaign?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 09, 2016, 08:17:40 PM: Aye, well, hmn...

Um.

Yes, wording could be better. I have a couple of Imperial minis there, and I've been using the same warband since the game came out (no, I mean literally the same warband for every game, stats and all).

We're seven games from the end of the current campaign, so there's plenty of time to work on the Dunmer stuff. Hey I have a Nord warband sitting there as well if that matters...

But, ah, there is a point to them being a tad generic looking. ;)

(http://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/images/110/160174-1365410839.jpg)

Though its hardly like a warband would be made up of just Legionnaires. You can't have just a warband of Thugs, and Knights don't really suit the regular foot soldier look of the average Legionnaire.

There's the Knights of the Nine.
(http://img06.deviantart.net/b830/i/2014/290/9/5/reman_by_zhirfrox-d835wks.png)
(To be a geek, that's Reymon Ebonarm, the original 9th Divine- or 11th ...or 12th. Screw it - before Talos was invented and he was relegated to being the Yokundan god of war. You kind of sort of kill him in Skyrim. He was also an astronaut. ...Reading this series crazy lore can make you blind by the way)

Fighter's Guild (which yeah, was wiped out after the Red Year)
(http://elderscrolls.net/media/2015/07/gp_crwn_collectible_mercenarymaterial_1x1.jpg)

The Blades:
(http://tamrielfoundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/orsimer-duo.jpg)

Fancy armour for Battlemages:
(http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/the_elder_scrolls_online_conceptart_ETK1z.jpg)

Dragonscale:
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Beyond_500508_5471617.jpg)

And salvaged Ayleid armour:
(http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/40/ab/40ab0d_5471617.jpg)

Though aye, there's also all the Dunmer stuff I haven't touched, or aught to redo. I.e. the other Houses.

An Altmer Warband would be an option too, though would need different armatures. With them you'd have all the elven armour and clothing styles, plus mercenaries from the other areas of the Dominion like catfolk and the odd Akaviri (the elves made an alliance with the human hating ape folk centuries ago).

My Fallout stuff is used with a rewritten 7TV rules. I'd play This is not a Test, but CBA reading from .pdfs and haven't bothered to check if the print rule book is out yet. That blog's been untouched for months due to this Frostgrave stuff, though there's bits and bobs laying about in a WIP state (hell I have a crash Vertibird just sitting there).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on June 09, 2016, 08:40:37 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on June 09, 2016, 08:17:40 PM
I'd play This is not a Test, but CBA reading from .pdfs and haven't bothered to check if the print rule book is out yet.

I think it'll be out later this year, it was a central part of the kickstarter which wrapped up a couple months ago and should deliver in the fall. So you won't have long to wait. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 09, 2016, 11:17:55 PM: Aye, I'll get back into Fallout whenever I have actual rules to play. Which'll be after I've wrapped up my current Frostgrave campaign anyway.

I played around some more with the caves. Nothing to post yet. Nah, just me cringing as I discover I'll need to make more little bits to fill in gaps. Well, or I just go for more limited setups. ...For the time it'd take rearranging the tiles just making extra filler pieces wouldn't be so bad. :P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 16, 2016, 06:49:08 PM: There was an English football game today =/= I had 2 hours free at work so:

Finished this one. Well, mostly; still need to do the shoes/tidy that quiver.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/16/807610_md-WIP%20Ranger.JPG)

She's a ranger, so bow, hand weapon and leather armour (or stripped down Bonemold).

Whilst that dried, a quickie. A mockup for a Dwemer Sphere.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/16/807609_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Sphere.JPG)

I did that as a test for making more. I could probably get away with doing most of the sculpting in one pass, but the details aught to have been done on top of mostly set clay.

Besides that, I found some Malifaux Void Wretches on the cheap.

(http://monkeyswordgames.com/image/cache/data/Malifaux/Outcasts/WYR20523-VoidWretches-800x800.jpg)

Which fit in with Morrowind's creature design.

(http://www.nexusmods.com/Images/419/544980-1416676797.jpg)

If I can find an excuse to use them...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 19, 2016, 10:40:02 PM: I have a chronic lack of updates here unfortunately, but I've another game this week, so more crap's been finished. :)

Firstly, I painted the Bonemold wearing Ranger.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/19/808286_md-Ranger.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/19/808287_md-Ranger.JPG)

Whom I rather like, but well you'll say that about whatever's the latest thing you made; then hate it in a year's time.

Now I need to make a captain model...

(and finish all the other greens I have laying about)

This week's scenario involves pillars marking out an area of the table. There's four in the game, but only three of these shrines in the games, but I'll find something workable.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/19/808285_md-Reclamations%20Shrines.JPG)

Those represent the 3 central Dunmer deities (post Red Year) - Azura, Boethiah and Mephala. I could make shrines in a different style to the Saints, but these will do for furniture/ objectives for now.

Oh, and they're just a 30mm lipped base, with a two triangles of plasticard mounted on top, then a wad of shaped milliput on that. Bugger all effort - bar the milliput being a bit naff quality.

Besides that stuff, I painted up some more loose bits.

The odd smaller ruin to fill in gaps.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/19/808284_md-Ruins.JPG)

And a go at scaffolding (which I made ages ago, but never got around to painting), which goes along with the ruins for easier access to the more intact buildings.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/19/808283_md-Scaffolding.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/19/808282_md-Scaffolding.JPG)

Depending on how things go I might make another few of the smaller pieces. Though I'm short of pretty much everything terrain wise.

So, I've made it a bit further towards filling out my terrain set, though'm still short of the enclosed alley system I want my Hlaalu board to look like.

I need more less ruined buildings I guess. ...Or just larger ruins with higher walls. Ack, I'll soon by having to take two boxes of stuff with my in order to play on 3x3 tables. :(

(worth it)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 20, 2016, 08:55:43 PM: A Hlaalu Guardsman, or a Knight for the purposes of Frostgrave.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/20/808488_md-Hlaalu%20Guard.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/20/808489_md-Hlaalu%20Guard.JPG)

What kind of silly guard walks about with a tower shield and Gladius instead of just a shield/sword? Ah, video games...

He'll perhaps stand in as a Captain in my next game (I just made an armature for a captain and a new Wizard tonight), but ultimately is there to replace the Ordinator I'm using right now (which looks crap).

Most of his, and all the other Dark Elves which I have, gear is made from bone (though crafted in a more advanced manner than the Nords and Wood Elves). I'd like to think that's because lack of metal ores in the region, but there being plenty of weird fauna. What does pass for ore is of a high quality though, with the Ebony and Glass armour of the Empire primarily being sourced from Morrowind. Bone and Chitin don't make for good weapons though, so instead those in use are mostly imported Imperial steel (or more exotic Dwemer).

I'd have liked to have made another ruin, but somehow have ran out of that creamy brown paint. Bah!

Oh, and the original art:

(http://i.imgur.com/AkELygc.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: M.P. on June 20, 2016, 09:32:17 PM: Splendid work :-*.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on June 21, 2016, 02:40:22 PM: Reaaly great! You captured the feeling perfectly!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: srba on June 21, 2016, 08:58:01 PM: That knight is actually perfect. Love it!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 21, 2016, 11:24:39 PM: This week. :P

Scenario 4 in the Thaw of the Lich Lord campaign.

Rules: in the middle of the table is an open area surrounded by four pillars (we choose to assume they were the remains of a temple). At the end of turn 3 the skeletons within this area come to life.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/21/808759_md-Scenario%204.JPG)

In reality - the usual "run up, steal the treasure, trade some blows/ run away" affair. By the time the skeletons had arisen we'd already taken the treasure and retreated. =/

(Personally I'd have it so the skeletons rise as you enter the area, rather than at a random point later in the game)

Not amazing pictures, but here's the warbands involved. My own Summoner group, and the opposing Witch led lot.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/21/808760_md-Scenario%204.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/21/808761_md-Scenario%204.JPG)

No, that bear isn't cute at all. Its ferocious!

...And like the fifth one which the witch has taken from an animal sanctuary (on the promise of best intents to its owners), only to have it stabbed to death by yet another of my (4) knights. :(

Sorry if the game pics are a bit dull (and sparring - we tend to be short on time).

Taking things forward the push right now's to finish my Captain model. The cave work will continue obviously, though I could also do with more intact buildings (I've too many ruined ones, whereas I want a alleyway looK) and perhaps scatter terrain like crate piles.

Another 2 weeks off from work yet, so I'll see where things go.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: steeldragon on June 23, 2016, 03:47:06 AM: Really like the scaffold idea!

I might steal that :)

Andres
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 23, 2016, 09:51:58 PM: I've a need to post something, so here's where tonight's efforts are going.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/23/809125_md-WIP%20Caves%20Shrine.JPG)

An 8'' by 8'' section, before I texture it with milliput.

Its a transitional piece from the cave system into a small Tribunal shrine, perhaps a lost temple, or maybe just a small one for any mine workers.

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/a/af/TES3_Morrowind_-_Molag_Mar_-_Temple_interior.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/800?cb=20130413041130)

(direct link if the above image screws itself up, as wiki images are like to do)
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/File:TES3_Morrowind_-_Molag_Mar_-_Temple_interior.jpg

The walls will be the cave texture. The rear one though may be have a Tribunal temple fresco (painted separately then stuck on later). The central triangle platform will be left as it is, but with the side areas having cobbles.

The central circle will be an ash pit with loose bones. Aye, and I'll replace the Christian crosses on the coffins in the alcoves, and replace them with Tribunal marks (or just scratch build some new ones from balsa).

I'm waffling a bit, but aye, there's where the caves are right now. The rest of the pieces are being worked on too slowly, but they're a struggle. Every time I lay down all the pieces I come up short on different shapes and push myself back. I could limit myself to certain setups, though that'll just cause headaches later when trying to actually build a table.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Achilles on June 24, 2016, 01:16:37 AM: Just a fantastic job all around. Great theme and execution! :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 24, 2016, 05:42:44 PM: All clayed up and ready to paint, well bar sanding down the clay a bit.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/24/809284_md-WIP%20Ancestral%20Tomb.JPG)

* the rectangle of plasticard at the back isn't glued down yet, thus the weird angle its sitting at.

Looking at it, it looks like it aught to represent an ancestral tomb, rather than a shrine or temple. Which I guess fits the cave system terrain. I'll maybe add some coffins to some of the smaller pieces to fit this.

Thoughts on any changes I should make before painting it? ???
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on June 24, 2016, 07:23:11 PM: Really like how the milliputt pulled all those elements together. You're a milliputt pro at this point. lol :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on June 25, 2016, 12:00:44 AM: It looks fantastic! Really Eldar Scrolls!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 25, 2016, 07:09:24 PM: A test paint scheme for the caves.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/25/809474_md-Cave%20Entrance.JPG)

It doesn't look like, but I gave those walls about two dozen layers of highlights. :(
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Azzabat on June 25, 2016, 09:59:13 PM: Looks really good. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on June 25, 2016, 11:06:10 PM: I can distinguish several highlights in there, it has very convincing "TES cave" look, so your efforts haven't been in vain.
Expecting more !
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 26, 2016, 03:08:12 AM: And the tomb. For treasure hunters, or an excuse to stick some skeletons into the cave system.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/26/809561_md-Ancestral%20Tomb.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/26/809562_md-Ancestral%20Tomb.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/26/809564_md-Ancestral%20Tomb.JPG)
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/26/809563_md-Ancestral%20Tomb.JPG)

Super amazing paintjob there. :P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 09, 2016, 12:37:01 AM: Long time no updates...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/5x89XRx3sBZFC/giphy.gif)

I've a pile of in progress stuff which seems to sit in that state forever, but as I've been sanding down the odd bit of this crap tonight, here's a 16'' by 16'' section of caves (or rather the particular set of tiles which I could be bothered to set up).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/8/8/819115_md-Cave%20System.JPG)

There's a major amount of sanding and gap filling to do in the hope of keeping the sections flush with one another. That'll never happen though as I don't have a belt sander (oh god how I wish I had a belt sander), but I'm hardly a perfectionist. :P

The current plan's to have a smattering of grey exposed rock, with the odd bit of greenery in the form of moss covered sections dotted about. Small mushrooms can be added (made from greenstuff, scew paying £5 for a handful of tiny resin ones), though I seem to have a real thing for random urns laying about (where else does one find potions?). These are supposed to be the generic sections which can be used for anything, so nothing too outlandish yet.

(http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/img_fullsize/60785.jpg)

There's a load of other ongoing bits and bobs of all sorts, but nothing really in a state to post (I have an Imperial townhouse sitting there, but its been used to store unfinished minis, and I keep knocking chunks off of it). I've also started two WWII projects, that'll never go anywhere, on the side.

...But seeing as Into the Breeding Pits has just came out, and the Ghoul King's Lair scenario is up next in a campaign I'm part of, having the caves finished is becomming a priority.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LordOdo on August 09, 2016, 11:02:37 PM: Ooh.. it looks really promising!!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Reed on August 15, 2016, 06:17:10 AM: Good to know this has gone up in the priority list
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on August 15, 2016, 06:18:29 PM: We'll all just ignore that new thread I started in the Weird Wars board...

Yeah, my regular opponent's set a date of three weeks from now for enough caves to be finished for the Ghoul King scenario. If not we'll be using my club's horrible snap together dungeon tiles (I spent 40 minutes just making a 1 ft square room for the House of Longreath scenario alone with that stuff).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Brummie Thug on August 15, 2016, 08:48:33 PM: Awesome thread. Looks great all of it you've got an a fab eye for constructing everything in the world your recreating.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Askellad on April 21, 2017, 04:22:32 PM: I want moooooore please
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: ayak333 on April 21, 2017, 05:18:15 PM: Brings me right back into Morrowind! really excellent stuff, cant wait to see more!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 13, 2018, 06:08:38 PM: Its been a while since I last updated this thread. Maybe even a month. :)

With that Frostgrave campaign which I was playing finishing I'd had less reason to work on this project. Since then I put together some Alternative History WWII and modern stuff. At a show recently I was reminded about this game (and a quick search found that there's new supplements coming out), and the urge to return to it crept up.

When I left the project last I'd had a fair few things on the go. Most of which is in the same state it was over a year ago, though I've no idea what I did and didn't show. Checking the old posts I can see that I never did get around to posting the "completed" cave system - which I'd had to rush finishing for a game.

The idea with the caves was to have something for the Into the Breeding Pits campaign (which at the time had just come out). I only ever used it for one scenario from the Lich Lord supplement, but the plan was to have the initial set of generic caves then branch them out into weirder things.

This is the base set of caves as they are now. They could definitely do with a touch up on the little details like the mushrooms, but as I said they were a bit rushed at the end there.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948304_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948305_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948306_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948307_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948308_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948309_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948310_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948311_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948312_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948313_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948314_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948315_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948316_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948317_md-Cave%2C%20Cavern%2C%20Dungeon%2C%20Modular%2C%20Terrain%2C%20Tile.JPG)

What I found with that system was that they really could do with more branching paths. Having a central room which has limited access points leads to models cramming down only a few sets of corridors. With most of the corridors being only one model wide that means anyone with the blocker skill and laden in defensive stats can pull a "Stirling Bridge" scenario, or "you shall not pass!" - where their enemies can only attack them one by one and slowly get wittled away. Ah, suffice to say that in the Lich Lord campaign I'd gone ham on warriors with Heavy Armour, shields, and defensive spells...

So the idea's to keep working on the caves. They look great on a table. If I need more sections to free up the available paths then that can be managed through the exotic dungeon tiles. At the most basic type I'd like to have some river sections to add a bit of colour. Though some Dwemer tiles would be fantastic! A small Daedric shrine is also a possibility (in the Morrowind style), along with maybe some Kwama Egg Mines, or even glass mines (I do remember seeing a manufacturer of miniature crystals, bit expensive for the quantity I'd want though).

Here's one section which was still being built when everything was shoved in a cupboard. A little living area for some workers down in the caves (be they mining ore, or Kwama Eggs). Something to break up all the rocky tiles. Of course, this could be the entrance to the cave system, or found deeper within - as the war band wonders what happened to the workers, or possibly if the mine's still in operation (some looters out on the deserted island of Vvradfell). A dangerous prospect with the rivers of lava no doubt streaming through nearby caves (damn, lava tiles are sounding more and more like a good idea).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948320_md-WIP%27s%20Mine.JPG)

A new campaign hasn't been arranged yet, so I've no plans for expanding a warband quite yet. Rather adding to the existing terrain collection would help for building up the city sections and the like. I'm not sure if I ever showed off these two pieces due to how early on they are. I'd give a word of warning that one of them didn't make it out of the cupboard alive.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948319_md-WIP%20Hlaalu%20Building.JPG)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/13/948318_md-WIP%20Imperial%20Manor.JPG)

The Hlaalu one was my attempt at making a structure which would be a bit friendlier in games - with multiple access points, levels and windows on multiple sides. With that one I'd like to go with a more detailed interior; perhaps a former shop - which is something I've moved towards more since this project.

The other is (was) an Imperial manor. The material that Hirst Arts stuff was made from doesn't lend itself to remaining stuck together, which had I worked on it further wouldn't have been as much of an issue. Again, the plan was for a more intact building with multiple windows. It could either be the local Imperial noble's townhouse (standing distinctively from the clay Dunmer buildings with its marble bricks), or perhaps some official building like a trading office. I'm kind of wanting to make a building with a summoning circle in the middle and burnt out timbers like a Fire Atronach had been summoned, but I may leave that for something else and keep this a bit universal (so it can be used for a few different roles).

There's more about, including some higher tier warriors I'd intended to replace the lower level members of my warband with during that campaign (a guy in Dwemer Armour to replace someone who had been in lighter stuff originally). Time had made that an issue previously. I can't for the life of me find that Dwemer Sphere which I'd made, though if I'm going to make a Dwemer ruin at some point the idea's to sculpt a load of the room details then make copies (stuff like those holes in the wall Spheres come out of in Skyrim, or just generic busts).

Anyhow, hopefully there's still interest in this setting. I've not haunted this particular board in a while, so I've not a clue what's happened since then. I'm always looking for any input over what to cover next of course - which sorry, won't be a Bantam Guar. ;)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/5f/f9/f55ff983077e3ec2bdb67431562ebcb6.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Askellad on May 13, 2018, 08:59:32 PM: He's back! Yeehee! I've started a morrowind project because of your thread
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LiamFrostfang on May 14, 2018, 12:08:46 PM: :o great caves bro!!!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Kegluneq on May 14, 2018, 03:55:06 PM: Glad to see more! Always an inspiration.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on May 14, 2018, 04:26:13 PM: oh, man ... this is just amazing.
'don't know how I missed this thread' as they say.

but having said that - are the caves complex pics above meant to be so blue and washed out?

be great to see them in their full glory...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: MachinaMandala on May 14, 2018, 07:26:23 PM: Posting to watch.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: jp1885 on May 14, 2018, 07:37:45 PM: Those caverns do look pretty special, though I'd hate to find myself lost in them!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 14, 2018, 08:33:06 PM: @ Askellad

Got to fill that niche in the market. Though to be fair I still haven't checked this board for similar threads in a while. :)

@ Bloggard

I mean there's the natural light coming through the window besides my kitchen table, besides not doing any colour correction to the pictures. This is how the sections look normally:

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/26/809561_md-Ancestral%20Tomb.JPG)

(Grey walls with brown tones)

I'll be adding bits and bobs as I go to them, so expect more painted bits to appear here in time once I work out what to come up with first.

Thanks, the comments are appreciated! Right, now for some crap quality pictures (7 years and this digital camera's not kicked the bucket yet!). :D

During the campaign I'd hit upon the idea of replacing models as they gained experience and gear. Swapping Netch Leather for Bonemold and the like (in addition to my sculpting skills improving, replacing the dingier looking ones). The Apprentice already received this treatment, and so had I planned to do the same for the wizard. That never happened however, and the armature which I'd made for him has sat about for a while.

In some of the original Morrowind concept art for the Great House Massters they would wear massive suits of armour to look physically imposing. Beneath those layers they'd be frail old Dunmers, or in the case of the Telvanni,perhaps partially mummified - holding up their outfits through magical enchantments. A pity that they wore just generic robes in the game.

This armature's still unfinished, as I block out the major areas first. The picture's a bit squiffy as he's attached to a cocktail stick at the moment.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/14/948587_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Wizard.JPG)

The idea's to go for something like this.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/14/948588_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Wizard.jpg)

(Amazing MS Paint skills are a personal staple).

(https://pre00.deviantart.net/d852/th/pre/i/2014/319/4/5/telvanni_wizard_redesign_by_talfox-d86ha55.jpg)
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/8a15/th/pre/i/2014/059/2/d/telvanni_master_by_swietopelk-d78bkub.jpg)
So a kind of Ash Priest mask - with air filters coming out of the side and hoses snaking out from under the chin into the shell on his back. A larger gorget, and a set of pauldrons. Voluminous sleeves, plus a staff with possible a lantern on it too. Then loads of frilly bits and stuff hanging off his robes to give a bit of splendour (Grandad doesn't leave the house often, but when he does he comes in his best ass kicking robes). I may build up the forehead of the helmet as well to give it a taller profile like the Telvanni helmets in the game as well.

...Um, though he's not been finished so far today as the clay takes forever to dry. :(

I'm not sure if this has been posted, though meh, for all the newcomers. Bringing in the more Dwemer elements, I'd made this warrior based on their armour style from Morrowind. In that Dwemer "armour" was just bits of scrap thrown together - though apparently it functioned like an exoskeleton, otherwise despite being one of the heavier armours in the game it would've been worse. I already have the more ceremonial armour from the later games, but this particular suit's so iconic.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/14/948585_md-WIP%20Dwemer.JPG)
(https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0374/86/1421780366790.jpg)
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/5b0f/th/pre/f/2013/153/f/4/morrowind_dwemer_armor_sketch_by_addan_shem-d67jera.png)

(I went more for that second piece of art's look than the in game version. Its still clunky, but a bit more streamlined. Though the robot's gauntlets arms being used for the armour's legs on the original is pretty cool)

Oh, and this guy in Bonemold was short a head and a weapon, so I finished him off too (though the head of the hammer needs some tidying).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/14/948586_md-WIP%20Bonemold.JPG)

That's me now onto 10 models in varying states of to be, or were being painted. I want to work on the Telvanni Master Wizard a bit more, but we'll see where things go tomorrow. There's so many things that I want to work on right now its a pain prioritising them. That Dwemer Sphere from the other page is due to have some copies made so I can use them as enemies/ clutter for future cave system parts, as am I collecting pictures of bits of Dwemer furniture which I'll made for decorating things (I'm planning on making moulds for common pieces of Dwemer architecture to make producing the ruins easier. Doorways, struts, busts, those sphere dispenser things and the like). :)

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/917/854/4ba.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on May 14, 2018, 10:34:05 PM: nothing wrong with your pics - just thought the ones I mentioned werent' quite right, but, anyhow, your sculping and model-making is amazing for sure.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 16, 2018, 06:08:17 PM: Work's commenced on the first test piece for the Dwemer ruins tiles ...and its been a bit of a slog so far.

With the need for a unified look to the pieces, instead of just sculpting cave walls on the fly, I've been making some moulds of the more common parts as I go. A pity then that the damn milliput takes forever to dry.

So far here's a look at what I've managed. Yeah, pretty basic, but the general layout's been finalised at least.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/16/948875_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Ruin.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/16/948876_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Ruin.JPG)

(only now do I notice that one of the bits broke off the door. ...Nah, I won't redo the mould)

With this one that's a sort of Dwemer furnace in the corner which'll be surrounded by pipes and barrels. The other corner will conform with the shape the metal floor areas and have a door. I'm going for ruins in the style of what Skyrim/ The Elder Scrolls Online went for; large stone bricks with brass reinforcement/ details with a sort of art-deco look.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/f6/9e/2af69e4e6faa4aa9a0acb0bbc7cc3eda.jpg)

Though the concern's over the time that each piece'll take to build. This is the first, so obviously it takes the longest to build as I establish the layout. However, that bloody milliput takes forever to dry and even with two moulds for each part going at a time its at least an hour (or better make that three) waiting for the parts to dry (I could stick the moulds in the oven, but have no experience with if the rubber will be able to withstand the heat).

Its not all doom and gloom of course. I am liking the progress so far and have some ideas for more bits and bobs sketched out which'll be worked on eventually. The greens which I posted earlier haven't been touched since then as I prepare all this. ...In part as I may have been out a chunk yesterday hunting down materials to build this Dwemer stuff with. Tsk, I can't for the life of me find all the clockwork parts I'd bought for this years ago, so I may have to go online and see what Ebay will turn up (it isn't a Dwarven ruin without cogs and gears laying about everywhere).

Anyhow, just to keep you guys in the light as to what's happening instead of disappearing for a week (it'll take that long for the damn clay to dry, grr...). :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 16, 2018, 07:56:31 PM: And the first pull of a door. :)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/16/948891_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Door.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 16, 2018, 09:01:59 PM: Wow, I didn't know this project was back up and running (have been following it on Dakka for ages). This is such an inspiring endeavor.

Wealth beyond measure, outlander!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 16, 2018, 10:13:48 PM: I'm 50/50 over cross posting this to Dakka Dakka, as I found the response rate to kind of drop off. The last blog which I'd had there was fairly quiet, which can be disheartening. Getting lost among all the Warhammer threads I suspect.

With this being the official Frostgrave forum it seems more appropriate to keep it here, though it doesn't take much to past things over there too (...spending a few minutes fixing all the image links however). :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 16, 2018, 10:29:02 PM: I could move your thread from P&M Blogs to Misc Miniatures Games if you want - would stay front of page longer there.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 16, 2018, 10:44:15 PM: I'd had a thread in the historical board for a while without much traction, though does the misc miniatures one have more visitors? Heh, I'm just griping a bit I think. Just looking back on that thread it looks like it was mostly the same 3 users commenting and loads of consecutive posts without comments. ...Ah, not that certain threads I've started here are any better, but well, keeping the disappointment to one place keeps my hand from edging towards the pistol as I type... ;)

* Tabs back into The Elder Scrolls Online. That game has 360* viewing of most of its in game models which is awesome for research! ...Plus, being an MMORPG, the models are simpler than the single player games. All the better to make miniatures of. :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 17, 2018, 11:48:54 AM: More pulls:

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/17/949026_md-Milliput%20pulls.JPG)

My day's been spent thus far staring at different sizes of mesh till my eyes started to bleed. Damn you steampunk models!

(Finding perforated metal sheets with 1mm and smaller sized holes can be a right pain. I have so far discovered the world of boutique mesh sellers on Ebay. Lab suppliers I think. The more you know...).

Today's been more of the Dwemer tiles as I continue to work out the details for mass production. Looking back at the Morrowind ruins they used grated floors rather than stone. In this case I'll go for a mix of brick and metal areas to give some contrast (/ save time cutting out all those bricks).

(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/110/images/thumbnails/76379-1-1466146814.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on May 17, 2018, 01:15:02 PM: amazing work.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Askellad on May 17, 2018, 03:43:13 PM: Epic dwemer doors! I can smell Martarkth's forge.

I havent started to post here;)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 18, 2018, 11:48:38 AM: Meanwhile...

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/18/949213_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Master.JPG)

I think that I'm done with most of the basic shapes, which means its onto bulking up some of the areas and going onto the details.

With the helmet I went for one based on the Bonemold helmet from Skyrim, rather than the insectoid look that was planned. Do you think he could do with a pair of air filters coming out of the sides still, or hoses? That's something which later games dropped with the Ash Priests, so its maybe a bit too sci-fi for the current aesthetic the series is going for?

The gorget about his neck could maybe too with having a higher/ wider collar. In general the shoulder area is maybe a bit thin with the large helmet and bug shell on his back. He's supposed to look like an old dude in robes with armour to bulk up his profile. Though thinking about it, keeping the meatier areas to his back gives him a snail like appearance, which fits his character. :)

Oh, and I went for a walking stick rather than a traditional staff to further the old man look. Though in reality maybe its just a deception to lull people into thinking he's fragile. ...I mean he is, but he wouldn't have made it to his position by being weak. ;)

With the first Dwemer tile the wall areas are nearing completion, with most of the work being the dreaded gap filling. I'm still making detail elements as I go. For the pillars I'm in need for something to give them a bit of colour. This face is based on some concept art.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/18/949212_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20.JPG)

(need to fix the cheeks a bit)

For the larger pillars I'm debating giving them their own junk. Maybe just a curvy piece of metal. Some light fixtures would be nice as well, which right now I'm trying to find an appropriate style for. Skyrim/ ESO's art deco style look a little complex to make press mould copies of, so I may find myself going back to the tube style ones from Morrowind (which The Elder Scrolls Online updated in their Clockwork City expansion).

Hopefully all this work will pay off once I have a whole board of these ruins to play with. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 18, 2018, 06:38:56 PM: By hoses, do you mean the tentacle-like things hanging from the face of the Ascended Sleeper ... er, mask?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 18, 2018, 08:33:46 PM: Some of the Telvanni in the concept art wore gas masks in the original concept art - to deal with all the ash.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9f95e15b4c9b78aecc1366cb9155787/tumblr_mz3xjxGLOb1t3fruoo1_1280.jpg)
(https://tesrenewal.com/files/Ravanna/images/SWR_ShushRav_AshAdeptHelm.jpg)

The Dust Adept helmet in Morrowind has some sort of air filters, though its too low poly to tell. Gas Masks are canon to the series, with the MMORPG having a few off the top of my head (an updated Dust Adept helm and a few of Sotha Sil's ones). ...Ahem, though if we're bringing ESO's Clockwork City DLC into this discussion that has bloody computers (cooled with Frost Magic and using inter-planer soul gems as a form of RAM).

(http://images.uesp.net//f/f6/ON-hat-Cinder_Mask.jpg)
(https://elderscrolls.net/media/2017/09/gp_crwn_hat_hum_kha_arg_radiusrebreather_ivt_8258_1x1.jpg)

So I was thinking of having some sort of filters/ hoses to tie back into the original art work. Something that the game didn't really develop presumably due to budget issues. Or I can just leave the helmet as it is, though I think its maybe a bit too generic as it is right now. ...Turning it into a rebreather may be a bit off putting however.

Back to painting. Seven models done today. :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 19, 2018, 05:31:53 AM: I think it looks good as it is, although some tentacles would not go amiss. The gas mask stuff does not look Morrowind to my eyes.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: MachinaMandala on May 19, 2018, 10:12:47 AM: What art book are you getting all the concept art from?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: LiamFrostfang on May 19, 2018, 11:11:24 AM: 8) cool the bottom pic reminds me of … FLASH!!!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 19, 2018, 12:59:22 PM: @ Manchu

Well I tried sticking on air filters/ hoses to the model, but they just looked weird, so yeah, I'll stick without them. :)

@MachinaMandala

I've no idea what the source of the art is, but there's loads of Morrowind concept art out there (I think the UESP wiki has most of it. Can't find any books with it for sale). I'm not sure if it was the same artist as their later games. When he died of Cancer they release a lot of his work (mostly Oblivion/ Fallout 3/ Skyrim). His art was so much more characterful than what actually made it into the games (the Balliwogs from the Shivering Isles were slaves rather than generic enemies for example, along with variants on the Flesh Atronach – like one with drinks trays for arms). ...Though the concept art's always better than the games. :(

@ LiamFrostfang

Youknow I think there's a version without the hood and big air filter in that game. Everyone paints it red and just uses it for cosplaying Deadpool. ;)

Breaking things up a bit I fished out some unfinshed projects from last time which could do with a bit of a tidy up.

I'm not sure if any of these have been posted before, though maybe not beyond the odd unpainted sculpt.

This guy's from way back. He's the model which I sculpted during a class with Hasslefree's Kev White to show off what I'd learned. It never went beyond that though and had been sitting on a shelf for years.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949331_md-Orsimer%20Warlord.JPG)

If you look back through the pages here you may find him being discussed. He's based on a concept for the Skywind mod for an Orsimer Warlord. Uh, whom may be a bit too high profile for a guy hooking up with a bunch of scavengers.

The armour's based on Morrowind's Orcish style crossed with the more Mongolian like stuff in later games (before they went full Uruk Hai in Skyrim). The MMORPG's recently brought this style back, but in use by the Akaviri (they have their own Orcish styles, one like Skyrim, the other's kind of Nordic looking; though its supposed to be an older style before the craftsmanship was lost. Which I suppose explains why the ones we see in the games are cruder looking).

Here's this other older sculpt. A guy whom I hadn't ever finished painting as I didn't really like the quality of the model (too many large flat areas). With a dry brush and some painted on runes he doesn't look quite so bad.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949332_md-Dunmer%20Bandit.JPG)

And a Redoran warrior, again one which I wasn't too happy about so he never was finished.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949333_md-Redoran%20Guardsman.JPG)

As for the bought stuff I've had a few laying about unloved.

This Argonian Warrior (from Reaper Miniatures) was about 90% done for most of his life, but I never thought he looked quite right. Now however I couldn't care less. ;)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949335_md-Argonian%20Warrior.JPG)

Hmn, I don't think any of the games have had Argonian armour in them. You'd think there'd be some mercenaries wearing their native dress. Though most of the fighters in each of the provinces just wear what's local (probably for budget reasons. Oh, other than those Redguards in Skyrim which were cool). The Argonian armour in ESO was supposed to look really close to this model (which is why I bought him), but wound up being more of a generic South American leather affair (pity, the scales make everything better).

Speaking of scales. Back in the days of Morrowind when Cyrodiil was a tropical Rain forest (where the culture was a cross between the Romans and ancient Chinese ...rather than European) the Imperials were more reasonably dressed for the climate. Here's an Imperial mercenary wearing Newt Scale armour (I believe made from a Perry (?) Grecian type).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949334_md-Imperial%20Mercenary.JPG)

Who finds himself paired with this other Reaper miniature. A Battlemage for an Imperial based war band which I had planned. The Daedric style staff sold me. :)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949336_md-Imperial%20Battlemage.JPG)

And who better to be tailing alongside someone with a Daedric artefact and ill intent than a Vigilant of Stendarr (which I have no idea about the source of. The face is a bit Kev White looking).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949337_md-Vigilant%20of%20Stendarr.JPG)

In retrospect I could have painted his armour gold and made it Imperial Dragonscale armour out of Morrowind. I'm not sure if the Knight profile would best fit him, or just to go ahead and count him as a Demon Hunter from The Forgotten Pacts. ;)

Since its been a while since I worked on any of this stuff things have been moved about. I can't for the life of me find some of the bits which I'd been working on. There's a few Dremora, a Xivilai and a Harvester (from ESO) lost in a box somewhere. Having a guy decked out in Daedric armour would be a nice addition. Maybe as a higher level demon than the Atronach which I already have.

Which reminds me to go look out that Flesh Atronach I had to see if its still viable. ...At least, being a Frankenstein creation, any crap sculpting can be sold as though it were intentional. :D
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 19, 2018, 07:17:36 PM: Going way back in this thread I'd started on making a Flesh Atronach based on their appearance from the Elder Scrolls Online. Originally the model began as a Flesh Golem by Reaper Miniatures – with the idea being that it already had the look about it. In reality barely any of that original model shows through on the final sculpt – with the Reaper model being far too athletic / less tumorous (that's a word).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949360_md-WIP%20Flesh%20Atronach.JPG)

I'm glad to have this guy ready to paint finally. He'll be a larger demon type in games ...or perhaps a construct. ;)

(https://cdn.cgsociety.org/t/g65/600265/1339366_large.jpg)

(http://payload200.cargocollective.com/1/12/389065/6306303/FleshAtronach_Finald_front_905.jpg)

Let's call this "good enough".

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949361_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Wizard.JPG)

Unless anyone has any suggestions? :P

I think this one's by Reaper (it says "RMI 08" on the base). She looks just the part to be a Spider Cultist of Mephala.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949359_md-WIP%20Spider%20Cultist.JPG)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/57/c1/4157c12aae35ed8311d361ac1697f9d0.jpg)

(Maybe short a pair of arms or two)

A wizard for a potential Daedric themed war band. Or perhaps she could be paired with that Sixth House Priest which I made for a Sixth House group (I already have an Ascended Sleeper and Corpus Stalkers).

Well, the old painting table's becomming busy again.
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949362_md-Painting%20table.JPG)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on May 20, 2018, 09:22:58 AM: brilliant.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Hupp n at em on May 21, 2018, 03:43:06 AM: Great work man! Your sculpting gets better and better.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 21, 2018, 09:22:04 PM: More from the world of not working on those Dwarven ruins...

Done!

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/21/949723_md-Flesh%20Atronach.JPG)

I wonder how much all those jelly rolls jiggle...

Eww. I think one of those bulbs burst.

Ah, I won't lie, this guy only took like 15 minutes to paint. He's literally two colours, and one's just the wood on the hammer. :D

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/21/949719_md-Dwemer%20Warrior.JPG)

I'll need to find another suit of Dwemer armour which I haven't made yet to go along with my ruins set. I really should get around to working out how to do some automatons at some point.

Reaper do this elven Necromancer which just screamed Ashlander Shaman to me.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/21/949720_md-Ashlander%20Shaman.JPG)

Don't ask me what that thing on his hip with the tentacles coming out of it is supposed to be.

Looking a bit dog like with how I painted her, here's a Khajiit ranger.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/21/949721_md-Khajiit%20Ranger.JPG)

I'm not going to lie, I'm not a fan of the beast races. Maybe adding a cat tail to an elf would be good enough (in the canon most Khajiit are supposed to look like elves with tails, but those weren't unique looking enough, so Morrowind changed that). :I

Last, among the Reaper stuff which are unfortunately tall, this one's the largest. He's inadvertently been painted up like an old Dunmer adventurer with those dusty trousers of his.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/21/949722_md-Vampire.JPG)

Right, maybe back to playing with some more terrain again. :P
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 23, 2018, 11:50:27 PM: My Dwemer themed warband's still in the planning stages. Currently I've no idea when another campaign will be run, or how things will be organised. Regardless I wrote out a standard war band yesterday to have an idea what to make. Its:

Wizard – Sigilist – with Create Construct
Apprentice
Captain – 2 Handed Weapon + Mail Armour
2 Archers
2 Thieves
2 Thugs

So far I have, um, the Captain as a model. ...Lots of opportunities for sculpting then! :)

The task would be working out how to make low levelled Dwemer themed fighters. The current three which I have would probably be a Templar, Knight and a Treasure Hunter, and too rich looking for the regular scum you have when starting out.

The idea for the cheaper folks would be to go for bandit types wearing a mix of low level armour with bits and bobs of the Dwemer stuff thrown in. A bit like the bandits you'd find in Dwemer ruins in Morrowind.

Here's my first attempt at a pair of these bandits.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/23/950047_md-WIP%20Scavengers.JPG)

Once they're painted hopefully they'll fit in better. Maybe I should have others wearing helmets to tie them in a bit more?

I'd ordered one of those textured rolling pins from Green Stuff World which arrived today. Now that I have that the first of some lava pool tiles could be worked on. Here's my attempt at one, um, still unpainted obviously (still bits to fix).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/23/950048_md-WIP%20Lava%20pool.JPG)

Some pointier stalagmites may have been more appropriate. The crystals and skeleton are both from Green Stuff World. It'd be nice to have a lava river some tiles if I could manage it (the roller's easy enough to use. Its actually the cracked ice one, but should work for magma).

Only now do I realise that the bloody roller has the company's website stamped on it! Where's my damn craft knife...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 24, 2018, 03:46:02 PM: Today's sculpts -

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/24/950225_md-WIP%20Thugs.JPG)

The Mongol Wrestling outfit on that one figure was unintentional. The tool just started to create it and I went with the flow. He kind of came out looking more like the Imperial concept art than I'd intended.

Out of the four two are supposed to be thieves, though most of them look more like thugs. I guess as long as I consistently use the models as one role then it won't be an issue.

Right, I'm still short two archers and the wizards.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 25, 2018, 07:41:18 PM: Time for some constructs.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/25/950435_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Spiders.JPG)

Spiders seemed like the easiest one to start with. In retrospect I should have made a mould of the sculpted area so I could make a few of these and havea whole swarm. Hmn, guess I'll need to hack one up then. :)

(https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/07/razak-opus-01.jpg)

Its the spindly parts which have been putting me off these, but the spiders are least didn't seem too bad. I'll need to look into making a Centurion Sphere.

(https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/07/Loyal-Dwarven-Sphere-Open-Front.jpg)

Meanwhile I've been having a delve through the Bethesda Elder Scrolls concept art for some inspiration. When the artist died Bethesda put up a lot of his work onto their Flickr. Its a shame that a lot of his ideas didn't make it into the games.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/sets/72157629321027031/page1

I do want more Daedra...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7194/6877421247_71daaecf40_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 25, 2018, 09:07:56 PM: Daedra or Daedric princes??
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 25, 2018, 09:28:19 PM: Sheogorath's dead by this point. :)

Nah, I just started sculpting a Knight of Order. They've been something which I've eyed up for a while. A pity that they haven't appeared since that one DLC considering plot wise Jyggalag is a Daedric Prince seeking to bring order to the various planes (I guess he's become more cautious since the last time he tried that).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: MachinaMandala on May 25, 2018, 10:23:10 PM: What did you use for the armatures for the dwemer spiders? I was looking at Malifaux steam arachnids and I think they could be done without any real changes depending on what style you wanted (since the appearance of dwemer stuff changes from game to game).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 25, 2018, 10:44:41 PM: They're all plasticard rods. 0.15 inch cuboids for the long bits, 0.1 for the short ones. A bit of a shore to put together, though simple enough that a production line of them could be viable (I'm thinking about using them as Giant Spiders, so may need a few).

I totally forgot about the Malifaux Arachnids. Yeah, they'd work. I've some of their creatures awaiting painting for some fauna. Looking through their range I can see a few things which would work (at least fitting in with the current Dwarven look. I mean anything works if you want to cover the breadth of styles the games use). Just replace the heads on these with art deco bearded faces, add some curly scroll work and paint them brass.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0825/4481/products/WYR20114-Peacekeeper_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1437484723)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0825/4481/products/WYR20124-Wardens_1024x1024.jpg?v=1458643568)

Or go straight Clockwork City and have stuff like this.

(https://esosslfiles-a.akamaihd.net/cms/2017/09/ee3fffbd6b564c69f094ae73039451b1.jpg)

(Main games - there's a Nord dressed like a barbarian using Iron tools. Clockwork City - ...so you're just casually sitting their with an electric desk lamp. What do you mean computers are a thing?)

I had tried searching for viable models for constructs though hadn't cropped up with much. Not even things like robotic limbs which were spindly enough. Blight Wheel Miniature's spiders could possible do as well (with the guns removed).

(http://images.jumpseller.com/store/blightwheelminiatures/8916/Mecha_Arachnids_14.jpg)

Though finding something which also has that Dwarven/ fantasy look to it is difficult.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 29, 2018, 10:54:50 PM: Well I made the mistake of reinstalling Morrowind and lost two days to that. As with my recent experience with replaying Oblivion, its not what it was. Installing mods on newer systems is harder than it has to be. Morrowind isn't Oblivion bad (where I was having to edit the date the core files were created or they'd overwrite the mods), but the issues were still massive enough that even when forced to run the thing through the the OpenMW engine it wasn't amazing. Queue uninstalling the game.

Still, no games installed does mean more time for modelling. :P

Here's another pair of sculpts. This one's based on some of the MMORPG's Dwemer armour. That game's not all that great, but I keep at it for all its assets. :)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/29/951265_md-WIP%20Archer.JPG)

The bow's from Wargames Factory's Female Survivor set, just with the tank things cut off. Archers cost more in Frostgrave, so this one got a proper set of armour unlike the Thugs. Now to come up with an idea for the second one in the war band.

The Knight of Order's ready to paint as well.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/29/951264_md-WIP%20Knight%20of%20Order.JPG)

I'm not 100% satisfied with this one. The in game model from the Shivering Isles DLC has a really smudgy looking model, with a load of non-complex shapes. Meanwhile the concept art was pretty over the top with all the spikes. Its an interpretation of the in game model, though could be better. I'm tempted to make one of those Tron like Order Priests from the concept art and use that alongside this Knight (...it'd be difficult to justify a whole Order war band unfortunately).

The first of the Dwemer tiles is due some paint too.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/29/951266_md-WIP%20Dwemer%20Ruin.JPG)

Not that its been worked on much lately. That mesh which I'd ordered wasn't suitable. Its just too thick to cut without taking a band saw to it, and that's too much effort for the amount of bits which are needed. Instead some spare mesh had to do. If it doesn't work out its not like it needs to be carried over to the other tiles if something better crops up.

Some lava beneath the mesh might work. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on May 30, 2018, 09:22:31 AM: tremendous modelling as ever.

but the MW installation problems - is this a windows 10 issue?
I thought open MW was a different thing to a 'normal' installation and MSGO overhaul type of approach?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 30, 2018, 05:43:06 PM: Its between a Windows 10 issue and just ...issue issues.

I'd installed the game earlier last year on the same OS and not had so many problems. I guess something changed (knowing Windows 10). I mean the game wouldn't even run mods without OpenMw. It'd show them in the .ini file, but load up vanilla (WTF. And yeah, this all after messing about with file permissions for hours).

OpenMW itself is a new engine for the game to run on which mostly provides new back end functionality. If you're using just that then you can run the base Morrowind with no mods and just those changes. That's not exactly what I experienced however in that the game runs like crap on Windows 10 (this being across a couple of PCs). Mods which were fine back in the XP days on now 10 year old systems had a better fps than today's computers. :/

What I had expected was for them to update the engine so that the game ran better on Modern PCs. The game was built with different specs in mind, so runs better within those confines. They may have attempted that with OpenMW, though I wasn't managing over 30 fps in most areas without mods (that's with all the changes the forum threads advised to). Don't talk to me about the sub-5 fps large towns offered. Oblivion was pretty dire too. With the crap fps and the horrible amount of effort it took to actually get running in a somewhat stable state (crashes every 10 minutes being considered "good enough").

Best stick to that never to be released mod for Skyrim if you want to experience Morrowind again.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Askellad on May 30, 2018, 06:03:54 PM: Dreaming about a remake.. o_o
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on May 30, 2018, 07:34:03 PM: Quote from: Wyrmalla on May 30, 2018, 05:43:06 PM
Its between a Windows 10 issue and just ...issue issues.

I'd installed the game earlier last year on the same OS and not had so many problems. I guess something changed (knowing Windows 10). I mean the game wouldn't even run mods without OpenMw. It'd show them in the .ini file, but load up vanilla (WTF. And yeah, this all after messing about with file permissions for hours).

OpenMW itself is a new engine for the game to run on which mostly provides new back end functionality. If you're using just that then you can run the base Morrowind with no mods and just those changes. That's not exactly what I experienced however in that the game runs like crap on Windows 10 (this being across a couple of PCs). Mods which were fine back in the XP days on now 10 year old systems had a better fps than today's computers. :/

What I had expected was for them to update the engine so that the game ran better on Modern PCs. The game was built with different specs in mind, so runs better within those confines. They may have attempted that with OpenMW, though I wasn't managing over 30 fps in most areas without mods (that's with all the changes the forum threads advised to). Don't talk to me about the sub-5 fps large towns offered. Oblivion was pretty dire too. With the crap fps and the horrible amount of effort it took to actually get running in a somewhat stable state (crashes every 10 minutes being considered "good enough").

Best stick to that never to be released mod for Skyrim if you want to experience Morrowind again.

right.
I'm still on win7 - when I tried open MW a while back, was disappointed by it graphically - at that point it wasn't a patch (excuse pun) on MSGO and XGE etc.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 30, 2018, 09:23:48 PM: I don't think OpenMW's purpose is to offer a graphical upgrade. That's just an addon to the core feature set. From what I've heard its more about opening Morrowind up so modders can do what they want with the game, like having multiplayer. Though my knowledge is fairly sparse, as I'm wondering why there isn't mods out there which properly replace the animations (the ones I saw didn't use OpenMW) or let the game render as many objects as one would find in newer games (I don't even know how the game renders stuff, though it appears it loads everything instead of just what the player can see).

For now the Skyrim mods are the closest there is to a modern Morrowind. Though those are incomplete. Skywind doesn't seem to suffer as much as similar mods in that its updating the art style of the game, rather than just porting the assets, along with adding to the original content. Though personally I'd rather have a mod which continues the plot instead of copy/ pasting it, as that runs into issues of accessing the original assets (besides that there's a reason for mods which rewrite or add to the base game's quests). Someone had made a Morrowind map set in the series' present, but nobody really did anything with it.

If I want to play a total conversion it'd either have to be great, or I'd just go play something like Nehrim - which has its own new setting and plot. Those at least aren't shackled by poor choices that devs made over a decade ago, and can do their own thing. Or hell, just drop the Elder Scrolls games completely and go play The Witcher III (its a bit embarrassing to play Skyrim knowing how much of a step down in quality it is from the Witcher. Skyrim, and the series as a whole's, only saving grace is the mods honestly).

*edit

Oh, and there's always The Elder Scrolls Online. That's utter crap though. Good for the updated art assets, but not much else. Woe on those who go to that game expecting any consistency with the canon (not that Oblivion or Skyrim were any better with not contracting the lore. Something, something, Dragonbreak).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 30, 2018, 10:12:25 PM: Your Dwemer ruins are going to look phenomenal when painted, I can already tell. What an adventure awaits you and your gaming pals!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 31, 2018, 12:16:50 AM: Yes, all of this stuff is looking forward to a bright future of being used one time then being committed to the Cupboard of Doom (!) for eternity. ;)

And back to watching videos on silicone mould making on the internet. Its a possibility.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on May 31, 2018, 09:28:15 PM: You ought to send some pics to Bethesda.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 31, 2018, 09:31:42 PM: I remember sending them their PR guys a few emails way back, but with no response. The way to go's probably to post things on their official forums or catch the eye of one of their mods somewhere. Heh, despite being on their MMORPG's front page for a few days I didn't hear anything from the PR person who monitors that sub. :P

If I spam one of their official channels enough maybe that'd work. But ...work.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 02, 2018, 04:52:08 PM: Here's a bit of variety for the regular cave tiles.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/2/952390_md-Lava%20Cave.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/2/952391_md-Lava%20Cave.JPG)

I believe there's rules for frigid water somewhere in one of the books, a will save or something. Its a fantasy setting so that lava shouldn't block movement entirely (maybe I should make some rock platforms to float on top).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/2/952392_md-Lava.JPG)
(https://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/7Su2l8dRIIM62icLdx-K6g/o.jpg)

;)

I guess this is the alpha test for the Dwemer ruins.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/2/952393_md-Dwemer%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/2/952394_md-Dwemer%20Tile.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/2/952395_md-Lava.JPG)

Maybe tone down the lava with future ones. I couldn't manage the same effect as the cave tile with the lava due to the mesh. Ah, which looks better? ...Or the least bad? Is the T-34 turret a bit too uncanny? :)

Don't think too much about how those spindly robot spider feet don't just sink into the holes between the mesh. ...Or how lava in video games doesn't generate ambient heat to burn everything in the room (there's plants growing right next to lava in the games).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Askellad on June 02, 2018, 05:54:59 PM: For the tank turret, yes maybe its too visible.
Good dwemer gold aspect
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on June 02, 2018, 09:14:01 PM: now there's some serious modelling :-* ... although the lava pool does look a bit like a pizza (that is supposed to be a joke btw - I appreciate that's a pic of photo of a pizza above :D).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on June 03, 2018, 07:45:04 PM: Holy moly, the Dwemer ruins look awesome. It may be the photo but the lava in both tiles looks a bit washed out so I didn't know it was lava just a first glance. Maybe more vivid yellows and reds?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: casual tea on June 06, 2018, 06:06:31 AM: Some nice looking terrain ITT! Lol @ the pizza. Inspiration comes from everywhere...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 06, 2018, 01:09:11 PM: Tsk, when you post something, then a bloody commentor instantly notices that you ran out of red paint a year ago and have been covering it up by mixing orange and pink paints ever since...! :D

The lighting doesn't help. My light's too bright, then the corrective filters just wash everything out (as with the pictures of the cave system from earlier). I have a game on Saturday coming up in a different location, so we'll see if that's better for photography.

Oddly enough it was at that same gaming Saturday years back now that I started this thread. It was supposed to be a campaign day among a few players, though only one attended - and we continued through the whole of the Lich Lord campaign together. This Saturday I'm trying to pull a player back into the system after he had a first bad experience (he was the guy who brought 6 archers to a starter game though), and I'll try and judge the viability of some players for a future campaign. Campaigns mean a justification for more models. :)
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 06, 2018, 06:48:25 PM: Repear just released this little gem in plastic. Looking through their catalogue there's also an older version in metal. :)

(https://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/80057_w_1.jpg)

Which would be just the thing for making one of Sotha Sil's Factotums. Well, with a bit of work to look less like a characterful. They'd do as Medium Constructs I think. Or I can go ahead and plan out those Dwemer Sphere Centurions. The original plan for the constructs was to use: Small - Spiders, Medium - Spheres, and Large - Ballista / multi legged centurions (the large Centurions would be too large).

Ooh, now look what I found. And on sale too! :D

(http://dreamscarred.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/PsionKiller.jpg)

http://dreamscarred.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/PsionKiller.jpg

There's another greater demon, or a Frost Atronach from Oblivion. Unfortunately its $25 shipping to the UK. :?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 07, 2018, 11:17:13 PM: Today's work. Look who forgot to add the grass again...

A Knight of Order, Daedric servants of Prince Jyggalag; most powerful of the major Daedric Princes. Jyggalag was cursed to take on the form of the Prince Sheogorath, god of Madness, barring for a brief period where he would be set free to conquer Sheogorath's domain and turn it into a realm of perfect Order, before once again losing his mind and falling into madness.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953247_md-Knight%20of%20Order.JPG)

Despite the ending of Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC, Jyggalag hasn't been mentioned ever since. In fact Sheogorath continued to appear (using a bit of a loophole in the lore, in that the player character from Oblivion became him), which seems like a bit of a waste. Here's one of his servants, summoned by a mortal Daedra Worshipper to do their bidding (the concept art for this mortal followers of Order was great, a pity that they didn't look anything like that in the game!). About his feet are little crystals which you see in areas Order's conquered, with the ground turning grey beneath it as it draws the colour out of everything (seriously, what a wasted opportunity for a quest in Skyrim).

Moving on, here's the pair of mechanical spiders inspired by their appearance in the MMORPG.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953240_md-Dwemer%20Spiders.JPG)

Which yes, I've made a mould of the better sculpted of the two heads in case I want to make a horde of these things for a scenario in future. I believe there's a scenario in Into the Breeding Pits involving wa rbands facing off against a constant stream of rats which could be replicated with these things. :)

This guy's armour's based on some concept art for the Dwarves. Though his other clothing gives him a Colovian look ...at least back when the Colovians were Asian/ Roman inspired (which is why I painted his boots up like the Colovian fur ones from Morrowind).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953243_md-Colovian%20Mercenary.JPG)

And the first of a planned pair of archers, this one wearing some Clockwork City armour from the MMORPG (which is like the Dwarven armour, though more advanced. ...Somehow).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953244_md-Dwemer%20Archer.JPG)

Plus the other random thugs who'll eventually be cycled out the war band as more expensive mercenaries make themselves available (ah, if I can ever get a campaign together)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953242_md-Thug.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953245_md-Thug.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953246_md-Thug.JPG)

I'm short on spell markers. Covering all the bases here's my attempt at the "Wall" spell. Of course with two magicians I'll need another two of these 3'' markers.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/7/953241_md-Magic%20Wall.JPG)

They're supposed to look like a bunch of rocks torn up out of the ground and mashed together to form a wall, with a couple floating about. Magical crystals then growing out the wall as its charged with energy.

I've arranged a game on Saturday, which the caves will be used in. They're still short a few pieces for the base set (ideally I'd like four entrances, rather than two, and more T sections), as is this group of Treasure Hunters / Imperial Dwemer Society short another archer, the magicians and constructs.

Looking at my collection certain models look like they'd work as the Wizard/ Apprentice for each of the schools (i.e. The Ashlander Shaman/ Vampire would do as Necromancers/ Witches), but I'd still like some Dwarven themed wizards to summon Constructs (though actually Dwemer mages would probably suit Chronomancers, with their whole reality based magic thing).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 17, 2018, 03:51:43 PM: A few weeks ago I'd managed to play a few games of Frostgrave using my cave tiles. The lighting was a bit better at the venue, though I didn't manage to actually take any pictures (predictably I took ones before the game, but forgot to during it. Typically spectators took pictures, though I don't know any of them personally, so I'll bet there's pictures floating about on some Facebook group somewhere).

Here's the set up, with that lava tile from recently.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/17/954867_md-Cave%20System.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/17/954868_md-Cave%20System.JPG)

And my war band, which yes is missing a few models so I subbed in the wizards (rather than sculpting some more Dwarven themed ones).

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/6/17/954869_md-War%20Band.JPG)

At the moment I'm back to painting my modern stuff, so I've no ETA on when I'll next touch my Elder Scrolls miniatures. I've no idea when I'll next be able to play a game due to work, so will have to see if a Frostgrave campaign's possible to drive me onto work on more of this.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Manchu on June 18, 2018, 02:57:50 AM: I'd love to play in those caverns. Here's hoping you get the Elder Scrolls i spiration again soon!
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Bloggard on June 18, 2018, 10:52:10 AM: yes, your caverns system is fantastic.
as are your figs etc.

bit of a shame if after all that work you don't continue with it, so hope that's not the case.

* oh, and forgot to say, your wall spell marker is just amazing - does indeed look like it's materialising out of thin air ...
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Askellad on June 18, 2018, 05:22:17 PM: I read somewhere that The Elder Scrolls VI seems to be in Hammerfall. Dwemers back?
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on June 18, 2018, 06:01:11 PM: @ Bloggard

Its not that I'm discontinuing my models, I just have other games systems which I play. ;p

@ Askellad

I'd guessed it was Hammerfell based on the brown rocks in the teaser thing. Skyrim was supposed to have a Hammerfell DLC, but they cancelled it during pre-production, so presumably they moved and expanded the assets (I mean stuff like concept art) over to this new game.
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 19, 2018, 09:00:15 AM: That tile board looks great.

Nice models (though I know nothing about the source material).
Title: Re: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)
Post by: Wyrmalla on July 09, 2018, 09:33:57 PM: Here's a short return to the setting as I await some deliveries for my other projects. The Telvanni Master Wizard's been sitting giving me a look for a while now, so it seems like its time to paint him.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/7/9/959197-Telvanni%20Master%20Wizard.JPG)
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/7/9/959198-Telvanni%20Master%20Wizard.JPG)

And unpainted of course. :)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/5/19/949361_md-WIP%20Telvanni%20Wizard.JPG)

For scale here he is next to the earlier Orc Warlord.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2018/7/9/959199-Telvanni%20Master%20Wizard.JPG)

Though of course in reality he's the height of a regular Dark Elf beneath those robes, but levitating and wearing an impressive set of clothes to make himself seem more imposing to his underlings (even with the hunched back).

(https://pre00.deviantart.net/d852/th/pre/i/2014/319/4/5/telvanni_wizard_redesign_by_talfox-d86ha55.jpg)

That hopefully makes my collection of Telvanni Wizards for Frostgrave complete, with an alternative model for both the Wizard and Apprentice for when they level up. In retrospect maybe I should have painted this guy in blue robes so he looked more like his younger self.

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/8/1/733056_sm-Telvanni%20Mouth.JPG)

I guess his old robes had the wrong enchantments. :P

In other news I came across these miniatures made for the Achtung! Cthulhu game. They're called "Night Gaunts", and seem to fit the bill for Daedra. I'm considering either replacing their heads and doing them up as Scamps, or just greenstuffing on some bits to the heads and making them Vermai (from the spin off game Battlespire). Unfortunately they were a bit expensive at £14 for free, like most of the stuff for that game, so I probably won't be buying any more.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0225/4035/products/232704458.jpeg?v=1426700817)

(https://www.fxguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/TESO_Trailer02_Concept_Scamp_v01-2.jpg)

Vermai from the Tamriel Rebuilt mod for Morrowind:

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/7cb0/f/2010/353/3/7/vermai_model_by_tamriel_rebuilt-d357hrf.png)

I'm erring towards the Vermai as they have a more lizard like appearance and wouldn't require as much work to make them suitable. Whilst Scamps would require fur and an entirely new head. Though Scamps are more iconic, compared to the other forgotten type of Daedra from a game nobody played. Maybe The Elder Scrolls Online will feature them, as that has been including some weird types from the lore so far.

As I'm yet to really find anyone willing to play a campaign the setting remains on hold unfortunately as I work on other projects. Its still a dream to finish that Dwemer Warband and build the ruins, but till I have a reason (...not that I usually need one) other things continue to take priority. :/

Oh, and I should mention that I'm cross posting most of what I've been doing lately to a Wordpress blog just to have it all in one place. I'm sure folks aren't always checking out every one of the sub boards on this site, so I thought I'd have that as a way of gathering everything together (with links to the individual threads too). It also helps to have a place to post other things without starting a whole thread about them, like pictures of other games I've played, or oddly enough recently some Warhammer 40,000 models (yuck!). Anyhow, its there in case anyone's interested. :)

https://thesticks.net/