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Title: horrid visit to westeros: dornish test
Post by: horridperson on August 18, 2015, 06:29:06 AM
There are so many amazing Westeros threads on this board I had to give it a try.  I'd commented on one of them trying to decide what would be a suitable rules set and thought LOTR wouldn't be a bad fit.  I'm not really to concerned about rules but thought I'd look at the LOTR models I have knocking around and see if I could do a test fig.

The Haradrim appear to be a pretty solid fit for Dornish men.  The light armour and flowing robes, spears and recurved bows were appropriate to both the written and screen interpretations.  I had to take some liberty with the armour and went with leathers rather than the brigandine described in text.  I could have painted it as a red metal but a full on breast plate doesn't seem light enough to suggest the nature of a Dornish infantry man.

I'm not sure I like what I did with the ugly pattern.  It is an extremely dummied down version of what I saw in the series costuming and hopefully suggests it rather than actually looking anything like it.  I really don't like how cleaning up the shapes ruined the clean layering I had on the robes first pass.  I'd considering leaving it be for rank and file and doing a detailed embellished version on character models.  Another possibility might be alternating black and white circles; What would you suggest?

 
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Post by: bandit86 on August 18, 2015, 07:02:04 AM
Looking good so far!
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Post by: PhilB on August 18, 2015, 07:52:35 AM
Brilliant work, love the diamond motif. Patterns and shading are so hard to mix. It works on this guy.
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Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 18, 2015, 08:51:32 AM
I think he looks great! :)

With the pattern, I see what you mean about tidying it up... I think that if you start with a yellow closer to the highlight colour, paint the pattern on (and clean it up), and then shade down with some thin glazes, you'll get a much more convincing look.

This is because the shading will also shade the pattern at the same time, and although glazes are a bit slow to dry, if you're doing three or four models at a time it's actually pretty fast overall.

Good plastics those old LOTR figs; I'm interested to see what else you do with them.
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Post by: LordOdo on August 18, 2015, 11:17:53 AM
It looks really great and convincing!  :)
I think you should continue with the patern, but do some with the black and white circles too; just to break the uniformity. 

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Post by: Elgis on August 18, 2015, 04:01:45 PM
The pattern and mini both look excellent.
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Post by: Hupp n at em on August 19, 2015, 03:06:15 AM
I'll echo others' comments about the pattern, I recognized it from the series immediately.  :D
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Post by: tomrommel1 on August 19, 2015, 07:38:20 AM
nice painting and as the others said keep the pattern
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Post by: Treebeard on August 19, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
It definitively works.
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Post by: Captain Blood on August 19, 2015, 10:19:15 AM
Well it definitely looks like the Dornish as portrayed by HBO - the Haradrim are perfect, and I like the painting.

Have to say, it's not how I see the Dornish at all from the books. At no point does GRRM suggest Dorne is an out-and-out Arabic-style culture - much more Mediterranean.
The problem of course, is that because Benioff & Weiss decided to portray King's Landing as broadly Mediterranean / Adriatic in look, climate and culture (when the books are clearly describing a North/Central European medieval-style city), they were left with nowhere to go with Dorne - except somewhere even hotter and more exotic.

But...

This is one of my favourite hobby-horses (how the producers got it wrong in so many ways with their globally successful, multi-award winning, gabillion-grossing, unstoppable juggernaut of a TV phenomenon lol) and I shall now get off my soap-box, and return your thread to its rightful purpose :)
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Post by: commissarmoody on August 19, 2015, 03:40:34 PM
Well it definitely looks like the Dornish as portrayed by HBO - the Haradrim are perfect, and I like the painting.

Have to say, it's not how I see the Dornish at all from the books. At no point does GRRM suggest Dorne is an out-and-out Arabic-style culture - much more Mediterranean.
The problem of course, is that because Benioff & Weiss decided to portray King's Landing as broadly Mediterranean / Adriatic in look, climate and culture (when the books are clearly describing a North/Central European medieval-style city), they were left with nowhere to go with Dorne - except somewhere even hotter and more exotic.

Agreed.  lol
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Post by: LordOdo on August 19, 2015, 07:00:18 PM
Yes I agree as well, the Dornish on my painting table ain't Arabic looking at all, as that's not how I pictured them.

But each to their own of course!  :)
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Post by: tyrionhalfman on August 19, 2015, 09:09:52 PM
These look great.I may have to dust off my haradrim when I finally get around to starting my GoT project.thanks for sharing