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Title: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on May 10, 2016, 07:50:32 AM
A couple of new packs to our Empress Miniatures modern's range.

This time moving back to our first releases quite a few years ago with SAS/SBS chaps. However this time they are kitted in full Hi-Speed gear including night optics. These guys are also well equipped with an arsenal of weapons.

Great for recreating task force Black or Knight in Iraq through actions in Afghanistan and into the present day and future. Use your imagination and take these guys into any operation, including Zombie hunting.

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag359/EmpressMiniatures/SAS8A_zpsqmao08re.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/EmpressMiniatures/media/SAS8A_zpsqmao08re.jpg.html)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag359/EmpressMiniatures/SAS8B_zpsuyikr98s.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/EmpressMiniatures/media/SAS8B_zpsuyikr98s.jpg.html)

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag359/EmpressMiniatures/SAS7b2_zps6z2erxjl.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/EmpressMiniatures/media/SAS7b2_zps6z2erxjl.jpg.html)

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag359/EmpressMiniatures/SAS7A%201_zps2nsqdkrw.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/EmpressMiniatures/media/SAS7A%201_zps2nsqdkrw.jpg.html)

https://www.facebook.com/Empress-Miniatures-581342921962834/

These are now available in the shop
http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart32.htm
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: gimzod on May 10, 2016, 08:33:35 AM
Nice will have to order some soon.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: carlos marighela on May 10, 2016, 10:27:59 AM
Nice! I think the sculptor has started to get the hang of more natural and dynamic posing. Those look good.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: albert hall on May 10, 2016, 10:54:37 AM
These look very good. 
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Auspainter on May 10, 2016, 11:50:14 AM
I like em
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: commissarmoody on May 10, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
Can always use more door kickers.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Sparrow on May 12, 2016, 03:33:57 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: worrywort on May 12, 2016, 04:47:15 AM
Beautiful !

We need some ultra modern french like them !
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: commissarmoody on May 12, 2016, 04:51:52 AM
Beautiful !

We need some ultra modern french like them !
Agreed....after my Rangers or course.  ::)
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on May 12, 2016, 06:51:53 AM
Both in the pipeline for this year. ;)
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Wyrmalla on May 12, 2016, 08:18:53 AM
Ooh, cool. Those I suppose would do for any special forces which use AR platform guns. I assume that other country's special forces aren't in the pipeline just yet till the conventional ground forces are finished? I'd love to see some Russians. :)
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: worrywort on May 12, 2016, 01:43:16 PM
Both in the pipeline for this year. ;)

French and rangers
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: arget8 on May 12, 2016, 01:56:45 PM
French and Rangers?! Praise be! Any plans for the Germans in the near future? Not to be pushy, just curious.  ;)

Also, will the Rangers or French be coming first?
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: commissarmoody on May 12, 2016, 08:27:31 PM
French and rangers
Hell yeah!  :D
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: carlos marighela on May 12, 2016, 08:40:51 PM
French Special Forces! Yeah, that's what's neeeded, cos you can't make them or probably about 90% of all the world's special forces from any of the existing SF figures already available from Empress, Spectre, Hasslefree Eureka etc.....  ;)

Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: worrywort on May 12, 2016, 08:44:59 PM
I'm looking for the french infantry. Not special forces.

French with famas etc.
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Dezmond on May 12, 2016, 08:56:56 PM
I'm looking for the french infantry. Not special forces.

French with famas etc.

Eureka?

http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EkZllFkkFEqHlTblaQ
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: worrywort on May 12, 2016, 08:59:26 PM
I know them but they are not ultra modern, and I prefer the empress stuff.
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: carlos marighela on May 12, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
So these aren't modern enough?

http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_150&products_id=11315



Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: worrywort on May 12, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
As I have said before, I prefer the empress stuff !

There is plenty stuff for the us and british army in many manufacturer.

Just one for the french army. Why I can't hope to see some other models ?

And I like to see the felin system.
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: commissarmoody on May 12, 2016, 09:42:42 PM
I believe he meant French regulars. But you are correct about how western SOF pretty much look the same.
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: arget8 on May 12, 2016, 10:00:43 PM
I think that the French and Germans that Eureka has are starting to show their age a little. The new Eureka stuff, like the Afghan National Police, are great, but the French, Germans, and the earlier stuff look a little stumpy compared to their new stuff and Empress. I'm not saying that they are bad, but due to the fantastic quality of the current range of moderns, I don't think I would be happy with them as I am a bit of a figures snob when it comes to moderns. Empress and Spectre are what got me into the period, so now I have grown accustomed to a certain standard of living, haha. I would definitely go in on both French and Germans if Empress makes them (even if I have to wait for months or years) rather than settle for the Eureka ones. I have some of the newer Eureka figs and I love them, but I would much rather buy a future range from Empress than the current French and Germans from Eureka.

The guys that run Eureka are great and I'm loving their new stuff, but some of the old stuff just isn't doing it for me. I certainly do not presume to demand that they resculpt their old ranges, but if they were to do so, I think that they could seriously compete with Empress.
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: worrywort on May 12, 2016, 10:05:49 PM
Exactly what I think !
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Arrigo on May 12, 2016, 10:19:51 PM
Who needs boring special forces? We the need the Type99A1!  lol

Now, everyone knows I love empress stuff, but I do not see the real point for plenty of duplicates... I would like to seem something different from the French (the Eureka sculpts are very  good and current, the Felin system is quite slow to get in). Now if Empress start to talk about AMX10RC, and Leclerc... but frankly my first request would be JGSDF, ROKA and KPA. No one does them in 28mm (Eureka has nice Japanese in their Kriegspiel range, but they are 25mm).

Arrigo
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: commissarmoody on May 13, 2016, 02:02:48 AM
Who needs boring special forces? We the need the Type99A1!  lol

Now, everyone knows I love empress stuff, but I do not see the real point for plenty of duplicates... I would like to seem something different from the French (the Eureka sculpts are very  good and current, the Felin system is quite slow to get in). Now if Empress start to talk about AMX10RC, and Leclerc... but frankly my first request would be JGSDF, ROKA and KPA. No one does them in 28mm (Eureka has nice Japanese in their Kriegspiel range, but they are 25mm).

Arrigo
I also support this idea to.  lol
Well I would likes to see a few more figs with QBB-95's and what I believe is the type 74 flame thrower.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e85_1343563999
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on May 13, 2016, 07:09:57 AM
Who needs boring special forces? We the need the Type99A1!  lol

Arrigo

Being released next week  ;)
Title: Re: [Commercial] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Arrigo on May 13, 2016, 03:56:17 PM
The wallet is being prepared for Partizan...

My PLA need a 125mm gun support...
Title: Re: [COMMERCIAL] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: commissarmoody on May 13, 2016, 08:48:43 PM
Being released next week  ;)
And of course my parked truck gets hit by a drunk teenager, so there goes my fun money for this month.  :'(
Title: Re: [Commercial] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: carlos marighela on May 14, 2016, 03:26:44 AM
Oh well, horses for courses, tastes differ. 

I have the Eureka French, they are lovely sculpts, paint up beautifully and frankly if you think there's much difference in the sculpts to the more recent ones, then you must have better vision or more exacting standards than I.  I prefer them to what else is out there as Kosta's posing is a lot more natural and fluid than what else is on the market. As for their modernity, I think the photos above demonstrate that they are quite accurate in terms of current kit.

It would be nice to see new ranges that expand the possibilities available rather than just repeating them but makers need to be guided by what will sell.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Queeg on May 14, 2016, 05:50:35 AM
....  It would be nice to see new ranges that expand the possibilities available rather than just repeating them but makers need to be guided by what will sell.

Yeah that's a tricky one. Firstly the fact that businesses are in generally in competition and not partnerships. This often means having similar ranges to provide customers with a "one stop shop" and making sure no one dominates where your lunch is cooked makes good sense. In our packaging business we always made sure we had our opposition covered ....

Also, you have the same issues as with other historicals, people don't often want to mix sculpting styles and figure heights and proportions with the same collection unless there really is no alternative.  Back when we had Napoleonic armies for example we only used Foundry, most friends only used Front Rank and a few wouldn't purchase from one or the other for style and consistency reasons. The 20mm WW2 market is the same, everyone pretty much offers the same core ranges with a few specialties thrown in for difference.

Anyway, I digress ....... great looking figs Paul!

cheers
Brent   
Title: Re: [Commercial] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: Keith on May 14, 2016, 08:04:54 AM
Ahhh ... really? Pretty sure people are aware that Eureka exist at this point, especially after what seems like about 90 previous versions of this thread ( I might be exaggerating a bit there). It feels like this has gone beyond gentle persuasion and into berating if I'm honest.

Personally I don't like to mix styles that are so clearly different on a single project. The proportions are completely different to my eye. YMMV of course and more power to you if so.

I also prefer the Empress figures but I'm hugely biased so would say that  :)
Title: Re: [Commercial] Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: carlos marighela on May 14, 2016, 10:09:17 AM
No, the initial response was provided solely to alert another poster that there were more modern French out there than the initial Eureka release.   He doesn't like them, fair enough, as I said horses for courses and no skin off my nose. I'm not making a quid out of any of this and people are free to buy and play with what they like.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures release SAS/SBS packs
Post by: arget8 on May 14, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
Not sure if I'm one of the people being referred to. If I am, I can promise that I am in no way fired up about anything, just putting out my opinion based off of what I've seen. I don't hate Eureka figs, I just feel that their older figs aren't as proportionally accurate as their new stuff, which is exactly what was going on in the rest of the market at the time too. This is in no way an attack on the market, more just like a dislike of a style of mini that has been surpassed by sculpting quality and casting abilities. I've seen what moderns CAN look like, now I don't think I can go back.

Just to reiterate, not fired up or upset.  :D