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Title: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on May 15, 2016, 11:51:36 AM
I've been looking for years for a suitable castle for my WOTR and GOT projects. So was excited to see the Renedra model appear shortly before Salute, and duly picked up a tower. Before committing to a full fortress, I thought I'd have a play with making a standalone tower, just to see what the potential is... So here goes...

First observations:

1. The style is not traditional British castle - it feels more central / southern European, with a little bit of Tolkienish influence (well, Peter Jackson, really). It has that slightly monumental, slab-like feel of much of the architecture in the LoTR movies.
2. Although it has optional pointy corner pieces and gargoyles to turn it into a more fantasy-looking edifice, these are probably the least convincing pieces in the kit. And, the uppermost portion of the three tier structure, actually has something that looks like Dwarvish runes carved into the stonework. Which is a bit naff. Would have thought those slips of 'engraved' plastic could have been included (like the tower corners) as separate components to be added by those who want to use them... I'll now have to fill them in. Not the end of the world, but slightly irritating.
3. The only instructions are on the back of the box. They are really quite shit. Confusing and not in sequence. If I was an inexperienced modeller relying on these, I'd be worried. You would have thought they could include more logical, detailed instructions on a sheet of paper in the kit. Poor.
4. The topmost tier does not quite align with the two floors below. It's not hugely noticeable, but it's not quite right. Not exactly a precision kit... Again, a bit poor.
5. On the positive side, the casting is pretty clean - not too much in the way of mould lines, and nothing that a sharp knife won't get rid of in a minute's scraping. The sculpting detail is sharp and generally good. Overall, nicely done, and a nice looking piece.
6. There are virtually no spare parts, so if you want to get creative with one of these, cut it about significantly, and create something much more interesting from the kit, you'd need to buy two of them. And at £36 a pop, they're not cheap.

Onto my build/conversion.

Well, I decided it would be boring just to build a bog-standard tower straight from the box, so I decided to be a little bit adventurous. So my tower is going to be rising from the side of a craggy hill.

With this I  mind, I decided I could dispense with half the height of the lower section of the rear wall (because the edifice will be buried into the hill at that point) - meaning I could re-use the unwanted section of plastic to do something much more interesting with the front door!

I decided to raise up the main doors from ground level, and have a hefty stone built plinth in front of them (I'll be building a set of timber steps up to this platform in due course. Probably matching stairs, to either side in fact).

And underneath this arrangement, I wanted a fortified culvert / drain (yes, like the one at Helm's Deep!) from which the ordure of the fortification will flow out with the spring water (obviously, there's a spring / well under the tower).

So, as you can see from the pictures, I got busy with my Junior Hacksaw, and have repurposed parts of the lower, rear section, plus I have inverted and trimmed two of the redundant pointy fantasy tower corners, to form the culvert. I won't be using either of the optional portcullises on the main structure, so I have cannibalised one of these to form the grating... The top of the plinth is a section cut from one of the flagstone floor pieces, and remodelled slightly with a sharp knife to bring out the edges of the stone slabs.

When I come to use the interior floor section concerned (now with an oblong missing from one corner), I'll be modelling steps coming up from the floor below, to make sense of that hole in the floor...

I've used Green Stuff to conceal the joins. Also to fill in the lower archery slits to either side of the stone gateway plinth.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_15_05_16_12_21_24_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_15_05_16_12_21_24_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_15_05_16_12_21_24_2.JPG)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: gamer Mac on May 15, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
good start
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Silent Invader on May 15, 2016, 12:35:04 PM
I like what Jimbibbly is doing with his and I like your plans and progress too. I'm just not sold on the kit 'as is' (too 'fantasy' for my tastes).  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 15, 2016, 12:45:17 PM
I decided to raise up the main doors from ground level, and have a hefty stone built plinth in front of them (I'll be building a set of timber steps up to this platform in due course.

Thief  ;D

Looking forward to seeing what you do with it though  ;)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Captain Blood on May 15, 2016, 12:50:37 PM
Thief  ;D

lol

I knew you'd say that  :D

(Actually, I think I first saw John Boadle do this on Simon's Hudson & Allen castle? Plus, mine is only half the height of yours - and yours doesn't have a drain...  ::)  ;))

I won't be carving rock like you have, I can tell you that much. My outcrop's gonna be cork bark all the way!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 15, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
lol

I knew you'd say that  :D


 lol

To be honest, there's not much that you can do with one kit as you mention above and I like the idea of a culvert, consider it stolen  lol

Are you thinking of having the curtain walls coming out of the  cliff face as well?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Captain Blood on May 15, 2016, 01:28:17 PM
Potentially, yes. Need to decide if I'm just going to do the tower entirely standalone, or add some extra walls.
Also need to decide if I'm going to go with hoardings up top, or just use as is - maybe with a but of titivation: hoists, etc...
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Corso on May 15, 2016, 03:54:38 PM
I like the idea of the castle rising from the side of a crag.

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 15, 2016, 04:01:20 PM
Also need to decide if I'm going to go with hoardings up top, or just use as is - maybe with a but of titivation: hoists, etc...

Going to wait until I've done mine then  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Captain Blood on May 15, 2016, 04:13:12 PM
Well you'll have to be quick  ;)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: tomrommel1 on May 24, 2016, 09:58:45 AM
nice start
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: NurgleHH on May 24, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Richard (and James),
when you change so much and convert so much, wouldn't it be easier to scratch-build a castle? One weekend, one box of 48 beers and some material and you both have the best castle in the whole world, I think... :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Captain Blood on May 24, 2016, 01:12:30 PM
Richard (and James),
when you change so much and convert so much, wouldn't it be easier to scratch-build a castle? One weekend, one box of 48 beers and some material and you both have the best castle in the whole world, I think... :)

lol

Always nice to have a base to work from, Dirk  ;)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 24, 2016, 01:14:57 PM
lol

Always nice to have a base to work from, Dirk  ;)

True, but it's an interesting idea  lol

cheers

Hames
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Dr. Zombie on May 24, 2016, 03:08:38 PM
lol

Always nice to have a base to work from, Dirk  ;)

You could build from the box the beers come in. If you get the canned pints you can even use those as base for towers :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Mason on May 24, 2016, 03:10:43 PM
You could build from the box the beers come in. If you get the canned pints you can even use those as base for towers :D

Careful, you will give Richard a funny turn.
 ;)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Dr. The Viking on May 24, 2016, 05:57:26 PM
THIS is the future!  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Miantanomo on May 24, 2016, 10:35:19 PM
Already looking great! I can't wait to see the next step!  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: dinohunterpoa on May 25, 2016, 12:49:55 AM
Captain Blood, thank you for the great review!  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Hupp n at em on May 27, 2016, 03:50:40 AM
Hmmm I'm not the scratchbuilder you are but I think you've convinced me to try my hand at just building my holdfast instead of buying it.  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project
Post by: Captain Blood on May 27, 2016, 06:26:42 PM
Well, what I am discovering, perhaps unsurprisingly, is that this tower is a lot of work if you want to make it look good...

First of all, I wasn't struck with the idea of a stone floor to the third storey (which you can reveal by lifting the roof and battlements off). So I knocked up a timber floor with hatchway, from coffee stirrers on a plasticard base...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_27_05_16_7_12_48_4.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_27_05_16_7_12_47_0.JPG)

Next, I discovered there's a LOT of filling in to do...
Arrow slits midway up the first storey - effectively at ground level, which would mean attackers could shoot in! Hmmm...
Also rather childish looking crucifixes which I think are meant to represent carvings, but just look pretty shonky. So I decided to fill those in too, and make look like more stone blocks.
Then there are all the joins between the different levels. Be in no doubt, a precision Tamiya kit this ain't. You end up with inevitable gaps, and therefore a lot of Green Stuff and Liquid Green Stuff has been applied to try to conceal the worse joins... Also to cover up the Dwarvish runes engraved in the linterl, front and back, right at the top of the keep  ::)

I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_27_05_16_7_12_48_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_27_05_16_7_12_48_2.JPG)

Rear view, showing where the lower bottom storey has been cannibalised... This will be built into the hill behind...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_27_05_16_7_12_48_3.JPG)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on May 27, 2016, 06:33:53 PM
Hmm.

The more I see of this tower the more I think that it is not for me. The arrowslits on the top flor also look very out of place, who is going to shoot out of them and how!?

I am sure however that yours will end up looking great. I just don't think I can be bothered..
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Silent Invader on May 27, 2016, 07:18:11 PM
Well, Richard, you continue to work wonders on it  8)

The wooden floor is much, much better.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 28, 2016, 08:37:29 AM
'Coffee stirrers'

*shudder*

 lol
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: tomrommel1 on May 28, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
What? Coffee stirrers is the way to go for floors and basically everything made from wood ;) ;) I have a good friend who is a baker by profession so for me an endless supply for coffee stirrers!!!

The tower will be very good looking when finished but it nearly as much work as building one from scratch. At least that is what it looks like!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: puster on May 28, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
One problem that I have with mine is that the top level windows are pretty open, and both look wrong on a fortified tower AND offer a view on the backside of the sidewalls, which then needs filling to not look like a plastic kit - it basically shows that there is no wall but just a plastic layer. I wish they would have avoided that open style, and contemplate filling the windows - or hope for an alternative level-kit, either for outstuffing the inside or for a non-open top-level.

Building higher towers you also definitely need to fill in the floors, or the upper loopholes will enable folks to see through to the lower, making it pretty clear that the tower is hollow.

Walls and tower need a lot of work, especially knifework to make the backside of plates looking like stone, and not plastic.

i will shamelessly steal the idea of making wooden floors (thought of buying the additional plastic plates). That looks like some work is still ahead, but the tower promises to look very impressive. I am thinking of painting mine in creme limestone, mediterran fashion more then light granite. Any plans to colour yours?

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on May 28, 2016, 10:44:27 AM
Yes, superficially it's a nice looking model, and for gamers that don't mind too much about detail but just want to splash a lot of money and assemble an impressive-looking fortification for the tabletop, I can see this selling very well. But as soon as you look at the design in detail, you realise there are many things wrong with it. It really does feel more like a fantasy piece than a historical one... But as I say: superficially, a nice model. It's only when you start to work on it in detail that it becomes apparent that it's just a nice model and not an accurate, well thought-out precision kit... I must say, the thought of making an entire 8 or 12 tower castle out of these, with curtain walls, is now off my shopping list. The amount of work would be colossal. Still, I shall perservere with my tower, and I sense it will look very nice when it's finished...  :)


The arrow slits on the top floor also look very out of place, who is going to shoot out of them and how!?

This is indeed one of the more apparent flaws, Fred  :?


I am thinking of painting mine in creme limestone, mediterran fashion more then light granite. Any plans to colour yours?

Mainly, I am going to copy Jimbibbly's colour scheme, here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=50049.315  :D


'Coffee stirrers'
*shudder*

I am thinking of starting a new futile topic that runs for weeks and weeks and then gets locked called 'Are you a terrain-building snob?'  ;)  lol

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Ogrob on May 28, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
Very happy with mine for just those reasons Captain. I'm sure yours will look spectacular when done.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on May 30, 2016, 01:02:30 PM
Okay, so I've now completed the main part of the model, and undercoated it.

The top floor in situ... (No, don't ask me how they get from floor to floor through all these hatchways... Ladders I guess...  ;))

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_30_05_16_1_56_12_0.JPG)

A piece of MDF and an offcut of pink-orange foam for the base...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_30_05_16_1_56_12_1.JPG)

Mdf base cut and sanded to shape, and foam hill sub-structure roughly shaped...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_30_05_16_1_56_12_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_30_05_16_1_56_12_2.JPG)

Next job will be to paint the tower - it will be easier to paint before mounting it permanently onto its base.

Then the fun part - terraforming the base with filler and basing mix, and adding all the rock detailing, debris, set dressing, timber stairway and vegetation...  :) (That's the bit I like best!)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 30, 2016, 01:04:33 PM
Then the fun part - terraforming the base with filler and basing mix, and adding all the rock detailing, debris, set dressing, timber stairway and vegetation...  :) (That's the bit I like best!)

Me too  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Mason on May 30, 2016, 01:05:32 PM
That does look proper now that you have finished pimping it.
 8) 8)

Then the fun part - terraforming the base with filler and basing mix, and adding all the rock detailing, debris, set dressing, timber stairway and vegetation...  :) (That's the bit I like best!)

Me three.
 :D


Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2016, 01:54:26 PM
That does look proper now that you have finished pimping it.
 8) 8)

Me three.
 :D




Me four  8)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: eilif on May 30, 2016, 10:31:15 PM
This is coming along wonderfully.  I really appreciate the play-by-play and the thorough, honest observations on the kit. Looks like they went the fantasy route and missed some details but you've made it look great so far.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 31, 2016, 10:44:15 AM
Looking good.  Can't wait for the set dressing.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Malamute on May 31, 2016, 11:08:16 AM
Me four  8)

Me five ;D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 27 May)
Post by: Silent Invader on May 31, 2016, 11:09:35 AM
Me five feet tall
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on May 31, 2016, 11:40:00 AM
Thanks gents. Good to know we are all of a like mind  lol

I would like to have a couple of lengths of rusting, redundant chain dangling from the ex-drawbridge holes above the main doors.
I tried to nick the chain from one of the wife's innumerable pendants, but for some reason she took exception...  ::)

I could buy some cheap jewellery chain, but am wondering if there is pukka 'fine gauge chain for modellers' available? (Like for tow chains used by AFV modellers etc). I've looked at various online model shops, eBay etc, but no joy so far... Anyone got any suggestions?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Malamute on May 31, 2016, 12:07:13 PM
I bought a length of chain from Antenociti, not sure if he still has some listed, but maybe worth a try.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Silent Invader on May 31, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Try Claires*

http://m.claires.co.uk/silver-cut-out-flower-pendant-necklace/shop/fcp-product/54007 (http://m.claires.co.uk/silver-cut-out-flower-pendant-necklace/shop/fcp-product/54007)

 ;) :D


Edit: should add, I have no idea of the chain size but it's worth a visit to your local store as they'll have lots of similar stuff
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 31, 2016, 01:26:44 PM
Pm me your address and I'll send you some  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on May 31, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
Aha. Thanks all. I shall leave Claire's accessories for now, and concentrate on James's kind offer  :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: eilif on May 31, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
Aha. Thanks all. I shall leave Claire's accessories for now, and concentrate on James's kind offer  :D

Lead Adventure Generosity in action.  In the future if you need chain, you can just head to your local thrift store and buy some cheap or worn jewelry. I frequently see bad chained jewelry for a buck or so and you can often find older worn jewelry with interesting link styles.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on May 31, 2016, 07:06:11 PM
Pm me your address and I'll send you some  :)

cheers

James

THIS! Is the future!  lol
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: carlos marighela on May 31, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
Very nice build.  

Design, price and part fit aside I can see possible uses for this. It's essentially a faux medieval tower, so why not use it as such? The Victorians were mad keen on mock Gothic, mock Romanesque and mock medieval.  It could be the tower part to some nouveu riche industrialist's estate, the clock tower on a civic building or church or just a stand alone folly plonked on the grounds of a stately home. All the silly decoration, misplaced arrow slits etc then work really well if the conceit is that it is a faux medieval structure.  That blank side with the curving arch would look better with a clock face attached anyway.

Would be a definite asset for people doing Victorian era games or even VBCW.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 31, 2016, 09:51:51 PM
THIS! Is the future!  lol

 lol

Want some as well?  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Andym on May 31, 2016, 10:16:18 PM
It's a cracking kit from the outside, but does it not have anything to get rid of the negative mould on the inside? It's a shame there's no inserts to make the wall more solid!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on May 31, 2016, 11:32:53 PM
Nope. No interior detailing or depth. As you say, great externally. Not so much inside... ::)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: **GS** on June 02, 2016, 05:42:11 AM
lol

Want some as well?  ;D

cheers

James
Are you trying to put the forum in chains?  lol

cheers
GS
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Hammers on June 02, 2016, 06:26:09 AM
Stonking build, Richard. But I think you've made me cross it from my list, at least for now, the way you describe it's out-of-the-box finishing. Sounds like too much work. I have yards of chain to, should you need some.

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 02, 2016, 01:55:31 PM
Ah, thank you Peder. I'm hoping James remembered to pop some in the post to me :)

I don't want to damn the Renedra product too much, or put people off. It is, undoubtedly, from the outside, a really nice looking fortification, and good value for money considering the sheer amount of plastic involved. Many wargamers will be more than happy with it, and we'll be seeing many large scale fortifcations based around these kits for years to come.

Unfortunately, if you're a fastidious, pernickety git like me, there are just a few things not quite right with it, that turn it from an easy 'straight out of the box and paint it' task, into a fairly major project.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 02, 2016, 03:37:16 PM
Going to the post office on Saturday. Haven't had a chance before then  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 02, 2016, 03:38:24 PM
No worries. Thanks James :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 30 May)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 10, 2016, 04:59:50 PM
Okay, here is the tower, painted with several layers of highlighting in a kind of mid stone colour, but with none of the details painted in yet, nor any of the all important weathering.
Received Jimbibbly's kind donation of some different gauge chain, and have added some redundant lengths of chain that obviously used to attach to some long discarded drawbridge. These are simply superlued into position and then doused with PVA to fix them. They will be painted as if rusted and fossilised where they hang against the wall...

Weathering next... Then the tower will be mounted on its base and the bulk groundwork done. This will let me see how I need to construct the timber stairs up to the stone dais onto which the gates open...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_10_06_16_5_40_21_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_10_06_16_5_40_21_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_10_06_16_5_40_21_2.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_10_06_16_5_40_21_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_10_06_16_5_40_21_4.JPG)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Charlie_ on June 10, 2016, 05:12:54 PM
Nice. What sort of colours did you use for the stonework? Is it just several layers of drybrushing?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Romark on June 10, 2016, 05:22:01 PM
Coming along nicely Richard,all your "tweaks" to the basic kit have transformed it. 8)
Looking forward to the finished article. :)
Cheers
Keith
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: eilif on June 10, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
That looks quite stunning! 
Well done.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 10, 2016, 06:36:03 PM
Thanks  :)

Nice. What sort of colours did you use for the stonework? Is it just several layers of drybrushing?

Yes, it's just a mix of dark brown, caramel and white with gradually increasing amounts of white in the mix for the drybrushing...
It's actually more of a sandy tone than it appears in the photos, where it looks almost grey. It isn't. Something to do with the light outside today I think, and my camera settings...  ::)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 10, 2016, 07:59:01 PM
Looking good so far  :)

I'm interested to see how you do the stairs...  ;)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Andym on June 10, 2016, 08:43:00 PM
Looking good Captain!  :-* I can't wsit to see it all dine with the groundwork in place!

I know your planning on using it for WOTR and GOT but it has a certain "twisted doctor bringing things back to life, villagers crowding outside with pitchforks and torches" kinda vibe.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: painterman on June 10, 2016, 10:13:34 PM
Looking good Richard, lovely tones for the stonework.
Simon
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 13, 2016, 09:27:18 AM
very nice indeed
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Admiral Benbow on June 14, 2016, 06:52:59 PM
Nice work, Richard. So only three more towers, some walls and a gatehouse and you'll have a proper castle ...  :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 20, 2016, 12:37:37 PM
Thanks  :)

Here is the tower, now suitably weathered and with the details painted in... Next steps will be to mount on its base, then add the buttresses and build up the underlying groundwork contours using filler.
After that, working out how to build the steps. Then the surface groundwork and arty stuff  :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_20_06_16_1_31_36_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_20_06_16_1_34_25.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_20_06_16_1_31_36_2.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_20_06_16_1_31_36_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_20_06_16_1_31_36_4.JPG)

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Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: waynetheduke on June 20, 2016, 12:42:16 PM
Richard.

Newbie to your blog BUT I have to say its exactly how one should be done in my opinion.
Quality work. Informative and with the right level of detail.
Well done.

Looking forward to the details (my fave bit too!)
Wayne

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 20, 2016, 12:47:21 PM
Thanks Wayne, and welcome  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Phil Robinson on June 20, 2016, 01:20:53 PM
Fantastic work Richard.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 20, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
Love the colours you've used but those crenellations leave me cold  :?


After that, working out how to build the steps.

I'm not back until the beginning of July  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Jacksarge on June 20, 2016, 01:32:17 PM
That is really looking splendid, you've done a great job with it!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 20, 2016, 01:33:50 PM
Good work!

I don't know much about crenellations. I guess they do appear a little strange. But castles takes all sorts, right?  :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Mason on June 20, 2016, 01:35:25 PM
Lovely work, Captain.
Great colouration and the weathering is spot on.
I particularly like what you have done with the rooftop groundwork.
 :-* :-*

I reckon that you are looking forward to titivating this muchly.
 ;)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: NurgleHH on June 20, 2016, 01:43:44 PM
So Richard,
it is Time to ask Mrs. Blood for more money to build the rest of Bloodwood-Castle. Or send a letter to the both sherrifs of nottingham to support a yound and ambitioned painter (A Yapa  ;)).
Very good work, I hope to see the whole castle Bloodwood at the Blam...

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 20, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
just stunning paintwork indeed :-* :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 20, 2016, 02:16:21 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

Love the colours you've used but those crenellations leave me cold  :?

Yeah, I know what you mean. They do look reasonably three-dimensional - unlike certain other popular castles out there. But I am thinking about doing a complete set of timber hoardings to top the thing off... Probably, I can't be bothered though  :D

I think I may just be able to manage the steps without you, James... But if I get stuck, I'll send a raven...  ;)

So Richard,
it is Time to ask Mrs. Blood for more money to build the rest of Bloodwood-Castle.

lol

Dirk, given how much work is required to clean up, assemble, modify, paint and base just one tower, I assure you I will not be building a complete castle using these kits.
As you can see, they turn out rather well with some love and attention. But to do a multi-towered full scale castle would be a very major undertaking. It would also be huge, because these towers are not small. The footprint of a full castle would take up a LOT of table (and storage) space.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 10 June)
Post by: NurgleHH on June 20, 2016, 02:24:41 PM
Dirk, given how much work is required to clean up, assemble, modify, paint and base just one tower, I assure you I will not be building a complete castle using these kits.
As you can see, they turn out rather well with some love and attention. But to do a multi-towered full scale castle would be a very major undertaking. It would also be huge, because these towers are not small. The footprint of a full castle would take up a LOT of table (and storage) space.
Ok Richard, then you should ask Giles for some of his small painting-slaves. ;)
 
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Hupp n at em on June 20, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
Great result!  The weathering stains in particular are very nicely done.  :)  It does make me a bit sad to hear that there was so much "extra" work involved getting it together.  If a more experienced modeler like yourself is saying that, probably not worth the time it would take my clumsier hands.  :?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 20, 2016, 03:53:07 PM
Well, it's not that difficult to put together - it's quite difficult to get everything to line up really well though. (I didn't quite manage it).
And because the plastic components are so large (and there's a surprisingly large number of them), the sheer amount of scraping off of mould lines that needs to be done is really quite an onerous (and tedious) job.
A lot of the extra work was my choice though - filling in the lower level arrow slits, adding a front platform, replacing interior floors etc. I'm sure most people wouldn't worry about this, so it wouldn't be extra work.
I do think the end product is pretty nice, and good value overall.
I guess my overall message is that it's a nice kit, but to realise its full potential will take you a fair bit of time and effort - if you're fussy. To do a whole castle would require a greater investment of time and space than I'm currently able or willing to make. But the tower will do me fine  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Romark on June 20, 2016, 04:59:23 PM
Love the weathering details you added  :-*

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Gracchus Armisurplus on June 20, 2016, 10:47:31 PM
Brilliant effort on the painting, any chance of a walk-through of the colours and techniques you used?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Hammers on June 21, 2016, 10:00:09 AM
Brilliant effort on the painting, any chance of a walk-through of the colours and techniques you used?

I think that if you go back in the thread you'll find them.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 21, 2016, 10:35:08 AM
Absolutely wonderful weathering effects.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Overlord on June 21, 2016, 10:51:11 AM
That's brilliant Richard.  8)

Great painting and weathering makes it look very lifelike.  So much better than the bog-standard grey I suspect most will end up as.  The extra work was definitely worth it.

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 20 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 21, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
Thanks Gary and Paul  :)

Brilliant effort on the painting, any chance of a walk-through of the colours and techniques you used?

Yes, the basic stone colouration is just a mix of caramel yellow-brown and flat earth, with various amounts of white added.
The weathering is mainly various shades of army painter ink washes, heavily watered down.
The rust is Vallejo Bright orange heavily watered down and mixed with a tiny bit of Army Painter soft tone.
The greeny tinge creeping up from the ground and in one or two other places, is just a very watered down wash of a medium yellowy-green mix.

The trick when weathering large areas like this (e.g. the stone floors etc) is to slap on some water, then use the brush carrying the colour to drop the wash onto the wet surface. It will then dissipate and spread more naturally. Once dry - after a couple of minutes - you might have to repeat - several times potentially. But it gives a very subtle result, much better than just applying a wash. It's a form of wet-blending I guess.

Meanwhile, I've built up the underlying ground contours using aereated fwall filler - this is basically just like icing a cake, although the surface doesn't need to be perfect because the final ground surface will be provided by a mix of PVA/sand/grit/paint. Small rocks etc will be added at that point too. I was going to build some big rocks in at this stage, but decided that rather than sitting on a crag (which would have required a much bigger base footprint) I just mount the tower on a nice grassy knoll :)

The colour is a bit squiffy in these pics. That's what comes of taking pictures in my red room of pain (otherwise known as the dining room ;))

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_21_06_16_7_42_30_3.JPG)

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Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 21 June)
Post by: Mason on June 21, 2016, 07:11:03 PM
Winter is coming!
 ;)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 21 June)
Post by: painterman on June 21, 2016, 07:20:58 PM
Great work Richard - looks suitably 'established' in the groundwork.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 25, 2016, 11:25:11 AM
Thanks Simon.
Ground texture added.
Next step - the stairs (haha!)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_25_06_16_12_16_19_0.JPG)

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Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Sangennaru on June 25, 2016, 11:28:34 AM
Excellent!! Can't wait to see it flocked!
The only "suspension of disbelief" issue is at the edges of the base: they really break from the rest of the dable, don't they? =(
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Mason on June 25, 2016, 12:35:08 PM
Lovely, blends in really well.
 8)

Excellent!! Can't wait to see it flocked!
The only "suspension of disbelief" issue is at the edges of the base: they really break from the rest of the dable, don't they? =(

I think the titivation will deal with that issue, no problem.
 ;)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2016, 12:45:56 PM
Lovely, blends in really well.
 8)

I think the titivation will deal with that issue, no problem.
 ;)



I reckon you're right Paul  :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Hammers on June 25, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
Lovely. The grate below the door is for some kind of sewage canal?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 25, 2016, 05:14:48 PM
Lovely. The grate below the door is for some kind of sewage canal?

Yes, it's the run-off for the water and waste from the beneath tower. Well they don't want it inside do they? Seepings from the dungeon perhaps... Or perhaps a small spring wells up under the keep...  ::)  8)

Excellent!! Can't wait to see it flocked!
The only "suspension of disbelief" issue is at the edges of the base: they really break from the rest of the dable, don't they? =(


Yes, but you won't notice that once the whole base is painted and 'greened'  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 25, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
Looking good but why are the buttress bottoms a totally different grey?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 25, 2016, 06:36:33 PM
Cos they are raw plastic and need to be painted to match the tower now they are in position  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 25, 2016, 09:33:04 PM
Cos they are raw plastic and need to be painted to match the tower now they are in position  :)

Ah, you smug exotic self contained islanders are always ready with a simple answer.   ;D


I can't for the love of Goat understand how a model of a tower came to take up your time this way, but
it is looking excellent. I'll give you that!   lol

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: verd on June 25, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
Splendid Work. Great Detail. I like it all.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: archiduque on June 26, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
Excellent work Richard!! :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 26, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
Ah, you smug exotic self contained islanders are always ready with a simple answer.   ;D

Bollocks  ;D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Mindenbrush on June 26, 2016, 03:30:03 PM
Very nice build  8) 8) 8)

With regards to the time you spent cleaning up the pieces etc, would you say it is a lot quicker than scratch building your own?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 26, 2016, 03:38:38 PM
I would say that it's much easier to clean them up but the point would be that there seems to be an unnecessary amount of cleaning for a kit from a leading manufacturer.

This is of course my personal opinion and may differ from Richards.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Ogrob on June 26, 2016, 03:40:33 PM
Very nice build  8) 8) 8)

With regards to the time you spent cleaning up the pieces etc, would you say it is a lot quicker than scratch building your own?

I'm not a great scratch builder (or the person asked, but whatever), but yes, cleaning the plastic is definitly quicker then building terrain from foam and stuff. I've built a full size castle, and the cleanup was by far the most time consuming part but pretty quick all told. Unlike the captain, I used PVA to fill the gaps and found that to work just fine.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Mindenbrush on June 29, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
Cheers jimbibbly & Ogrob, still undecided as although the kit will save time on details such as archways, windows etc the challenge of scratch building is intriguing. I still have plenty of time to decide as my Frostgrave is still in the de-flashing the figures stage...............
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: jon_1066 on June 30, 2016, 08:53:00 AM
Great work as usual. 

Just to chip in on the issue of clean up/effort, etc.  I have been hacking the castle about and found it quite fun.  My pieces haven't had much in the way of mould lines and those there are are most often not on visible bits.  In terms of the fit I guess a little filling is required but since I have been chopping it up it is minimal compared to the great gaps I have been leaving.

I think it is a pretty flexible kit and fun to build.  It is also massive.  Much bigger than the GW watch tower for instance.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (Update 25 June - ground texture added)
Post by: Captain Blood on June 30, 2016, 12:12:46 PM
Thanks Jon. Yes, I agree with you, it's impressively big - especially when stuck on a mound ;)

I found scraping off the mould lines pretty tedious, but maybe I just have a low tolerance for such unproductive tasks  :)
I think scratchbuilding would take a lot longer and the result probably wouldn't be as good.

Now here's the tower in situ with the steps and groundwork complete and painted.
Just the greenery to add now. I must admit, I rather like it as it is, sitting on its blasted, muddy wasteland. Then again, I know that adding greenery to the base will make it pop even more, so that's the final step...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_30_06_16_6_44_41_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_30_06_16_6_44_41_1.JPG)

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Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Silent Invader on June 30, 2016, 07:15:23 PM
Looking excellent.  8)

You and others are tempting me into the fray..... :o



Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Andym on June 30, 2016, 07:17:58 PM
If you like the muddy look, why not just green up the edges of the base? I imagine people would walk around the base of the tower messing up the grass anyway.

As for the steps, what about a railing? Maybe around the steps and around the entrance door too? It maybe looks a little bear without it.

Looking excellent.  8)

You and others are tempting me into the fray..... :o





Knowing your current projects, should that not be "into the Frey"? ;) (I think thats the spelling of the GoT family? )
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Captain Blood on June 30, 2016, 08:43:32 PM
As for the steps, what about a railing? Maybe around the steps and around the entrance door too? It maybe looks a little bear without it.

Thanks Andy. I actually built a handrail up the stair, and a section of balustrade for the platform. Then decided the whole timber edifice was starting to look a bit over-fussy, so went for the Spartan look instead...  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Svennn on June 30, 2016, 08:50:14 PM
Bravo Richard, no lesser a piece of thoughtful excellence than I would expect from your talented hands but the kit just seems so "fantasy" in style.  It makes me think GW rather than Renedra.  I presume this is for your GoT project (I have never seen a single episode) and that it will be perfect for it.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2016, 11:19:44 PM
Wonderful work Richard! The rust work is lovely,  a small detail that really makes the piece.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 30, 2016, 11:21:42 PM
Looks the nuts  :D

A good point made by Andy though about having green just on the board edge and less well travelled areas.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: NurgleHH on July 01, 2016, 07:08:28 AM
Fantastic work, Richard. Talked to Mrs. Blood about the rest of the castle???  ;) For me every minute you spend in this work is worth it. Now some nice civilians and scenery from the twins and it will be perfect.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: jon_1066 on July 01, 2016, 09:19:27 AM
I would say no balustrades.  They didn't do risk assessments in 1450  :)

Looking fab.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Silent Invader on July 01, 2016, 09:23:57 AM
I would say no balustrades.  They didn't do risk assessments in 1450  :)

I concur  :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Warboss Nick on July 01, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
Really fantastic what you did with this model! It is obvious how much work you put into every step of the process, refining the model for historical use along the way.

At the same time I am wondering if it is worth it beyond a single tower. To build a church e.g. one would need at least two gatehouses, probably more. Cashing in at 84£ upwards, wouldn't you turn to an mdf basis or do it completely from scratch?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Eric the Shed on July 01, 2016, 09:26:33 AM
excellent job sir
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Furt on July 01, 2016, 09:42:06 AM
Wonderful job Richard and quite an imposing piece.  :o

I'm firmly in the no balustrade park too.

That staircase looks to me like you'd cut it down and burn it before your home was properly besieged.

I guess if I was being picky I'd say the keep could do with a nice little wooden hoarding with some murder holes over that main door. There's even a nice space for one where that arch is.

A brilliant job Richard.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 01, 2016, 09:52:13 AM
very nice indeed and sometimes less is more like here :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: jon_1066 on July 01, 2016, 09:52:57 AM
Kind of. Whilst they didn't have a Health & Safety Exec they certainly knew that people can slip, loose their balance, and that falling off high places can cause injury and death.
So from a purely practical point of view they would use balustrades and handrails.

But look at those steps.  They haven't been erected to look nice or be a long term access to a lords palace.  They have been hastily erected in a time of war to replace the last set that were demolished when the tower was last attacked.  Who has time for hand rails when the Wolf of the North is approaching?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Captain Blood on July 01, 2016, 10:15:58 AM
Thanks all for the comments  :)

Yes, I did consider a matched pair of staircases either side of the dais. Would have looked nice and symmetrical... But first, I didn't want to cover up all that nice lower level detail on the front of the building, and second - and more importantly - I reminded myself this is a brute defensive strongpoint, not a cricket pavilion. One way in, one way out. In the event of imminent attack, a few minutes work with a sledgehammer to knock away the cairn of stone supporting the corner of rudimentary stairway, and Bob's your uncle.

As far as balustrades and banisters go, as mentioned, I didn't want it to look too cluttered or indeed too sophisticated. And there's also the practical consideration of cutting down on the space for figures on 25mm round bases with too much timberwork in the way...

Anyway, all very good suggestions, but please let me assure you it wasn't because I hadn't considered all the options that I chose not to make it that way :)

(That said, I definitely hadn't considered wooden hoardings over murder holes, Frank. That is indeed a VERY good idea, and I might just incorporate those... Thank you).

Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to apply greenery, and then you can judge the finished product :)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Hammers on July 01, 2016, 12:23:52 PM
That is really impressive, Richard!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Furt on July 02, 2016, 10:50:03 AM
(That said, I definitely hadn't considered wooden hoardings over murder holes, Frank. That is indeed a VERY good idea, and I might just incorporate those... Thank you).

No problems mate, would love to see it eventuate.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Mason on July 02, 2016, 10:59:09 AM
That is really impressive, Richard!

It certainly is.
 :-*

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (30 June. Groundwork and stairs done. P7 )
Post by: Captain Blood on July 02, 2016, 06:08:59 PM
No problems mate, would love to see it eventuate.

Here you go... Good idea Frank. It works quite well I think.
The murder holes are set at floor level in the upper storey, allowing stones to be rolled out onto, and boiling oil to be poured straight down upon any unwelcome visitors trying to force the main gate...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_02_07_16_6_58_15_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_02_07_16_7_08_04.jpg)

Meanwhile, first fit of tuftage has taken place... More to come, plus more general greensward / flock...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_02_07_16_6_58_15_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_02_07_16_6_58_15_2.JPG)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Silent Invader on July 02, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
Absolutely delightful  8)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 02, 2016, 07:14:50 PM
Love the murder hole, very understated but it works well  8)

Are you a secret member of the tufty club by any chance   lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: carlos marighela on July 02, 2016, 11:34:45 PM
Love the murder hole, very understated but it works well  8)

Are you a secret member of the tufty club by any chance   lol

cheers

James

Seems so but who isn't these days? It's nice to see LAF promoting the road safety message to the over 50's amongst us.

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Furt on July 03, 2016, 01:15:42 AM
Love the murder hole, very understated but it works well  8)

I was thinking something larger too, but that works VERY well Richard and makes sense to boot. Just enough to give any unwelcome guests knocking on your door a bit of hell and breaks up that large wall so nicely.

Awesome piece and the tufts look great.

BTW - I think LAF needs a Tufty Club badge.  lol
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Jacksarge on July 03, 2016, 07:15:22 AM
This is a brilliant project, really enjoying your attention to detail.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Andym on July 03, 2016, 08:12:53 AM
Brilliant! :-* That's just the right amount of tufts/grass around the base. Have you done the edges yet? Is that this beastie finished?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Captain Blood on July 03, 2016, 08:50:27 AM
Brilliant! :-* That's just the right amount of tufts/grass around the base. Have you done the edges yet? Is that this beastie finished?

Thanks Andy. No, not quite. I'm going to do a bit more greening - while following your suggestion and leaving a well worn dirt track right around the base of the tower. Unfortunately, I'm only able to give it an hour here or there at the moment. Busy times on all sorts of other things  ::)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Malamute on July 03, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
Looking great. All the additions bring it to life and the base is really setting it off. Excellent job, can't wait to see it in the flesh ;D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Mindenbrush on July 03, 2016, 11:13:09 PM
Excellent  8) :) 8)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: commissarmoody on July 04, 2016, 12:15:55 AM
It turned out pretty damn good. Great Work.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: gary42 on July 04, 2016, 02:27:29 AM
Holy smokes!  That sir, is indeed the bomb!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: NurgleHH on July 04, 2016, 12:48:07 PM
Richard, you got the most out of this plastic. I have to say: You are still the emporer of plastic. Very nice.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 04, 2016, 03:19:13 PM
very nice idea indeed!!!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Captain Blood on July 08, 2016, 05:22:05 PM
Thanks.

Here is the finished tower. Had fun today setting up a couple of scenes to show the tower off to good effect... The ruins in the background are by Manor House Workshop.

First, a Wars of the Roses siege - the Yorkists holed up and then sallying forth... Sandal Castle perhaps?

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_55_27_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_55_27_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_06_01.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_55_30_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_57_54_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_57_56_2.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_57_54_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_55_30_4.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_57_56_4.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_57_56_3.JPG)


Here you can see the fairly unsatisfactory interior detail. Timber floor added by me. It would be more work to add full interior detail - I guess it depends how often you plan to have the roof off...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_59_55_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_59_56_1.JPG)


I then set up a little set-to between my Game of Thrones factions.
The Starks attacking a holdfast occupied by the Lannisters and their Bolton allies...


(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_05_04_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_05_04_4.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_05_04_0.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_05_04_2.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_05_04_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_6_06_55.JPG)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on July 08, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
Thar certainly came out alright.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Andym on July 08, 2016, 05:29:34 PM
Fantastic Richard! :o I've always been jealous of your photography skills(....and your painting, sculpting and building skills!) but these pics have now taken that level  to a much grander scale! Every evocative! :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Silent Invader on July 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Stunning in both guises  8)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Romark on July 08, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
That certainly turned out great,rewarding all the hard work and effort you put in Richard. :)
Cheers
Keith
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: gary42 on July 08, 2016, 05:54:36 PM
Keep trying.  You'll get it eventually... ;D

Ah...Mazing!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: painterman on July 08, 2016, 06:04:05 PM
...oh yes!! Brilliant terrain piece for your collection.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: tyrionhalfman on July 08, 2016, 06:07:18 PM
Wow another amazing piece of art, and your great atmospheric scenes really show it off
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: NurgleHH on July 08, 2016, 06:07:41 PM
Very cool S**t, Captain. Geting better with every picture. What comes next?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: mrtn on July 08, 2016, 06:26:39 PM
That's looking great. The interior is pretty hard to salvage with all that inverted space, but at least it looks OK with the roof on.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: carlos marighela on July 08, 2016, 06:56:12 PM
Simply amazing stuff!

I must say, I'm really taken by the ruined abbey in the background. Scratch built or?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Vanvlak on July 08, 2016, 07:08:10 PM
That's a towering monument to quality model making  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 08, 2016, 07:32:44 PM
I think that'll do nicely  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Hupp n at em on July 08, 2016, 07:33:42 PM
Pretty incredible.  :o :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Helen on July 08, 2016, 07:37:08 PM
Lovely work Richard.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: commissarmoody on July 08, 2016, 07:48:26 PM
So good!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: syrinx0 on July 08, 2016, 07:58:37 PM
As others have said, this is fantastic. Art you can use. 
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: marrony on July 08, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
Speechless. Fantastic. :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Jeff965 on July 08, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
Absolutely bloody stunning, this must be showcased in one of our hobby mags surley :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: SiamTiger on July 08, 2016, 09:21:13 PM
That is simply amazing. I am speechless. The project, the composition and the pictures.

Beside the Renedra Tower, where did you get those lovely ruins that are seen on the pictures? They look amazing as well.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Mason on July 08, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
Lovely jubbly!
 :-* :-*

You are getting pretty good at this lark.
You will soon be good enough to paint some goblins, I reckon.
Maybe even zombies if you keep practising.
 :D

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Jacksarge on July 09, 2016, 07:08:08 AM
Beautiful, beautiful work - inspirational!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Dr DeAth on July 09, 2016, 08:03:36 AM
Outstanding!  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on July 09, 2016, 09:24:35 AM
Amazing quality of both building and painting - love it:-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 09, 2016, 10:51:54 AM
Thanks all  :)

I must say, I'm really taken by the ruined abbey in the background. Scratch built or?

No, they are standalone pieces by Manor House Workshop. Very nice, heavy, ready-painted lumps of resin, with just a very little titivation by me.



You will soon be good enough to paint some goblins, I reckon.
Maybe even zombies if you keep practising.
:D


Like these?  :D

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_09_07_16_11_38_40.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_09_07_16_11_50_58.jpg)

lol

Think I've painted pretty much everything at some point or other...  ;)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Mason on July 09, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
 lol lol

I guessed that you may have at some point in your dark and mysterious past.
Especially after the Cthulhu Incident.

Nothing like confession for cleansing the soul, eh?
 ;)

Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: pbjunky1 on July 09, 2016, 11:39:51 AM
The work on the tower is  outstanding, I've been following progress and its seemed a tremendous amount of work but the quality of the  outcome speaks for itself. The dioramas are exceptional as well and really showcase the whole project.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Axebreaker on July 09, 2016, 11:42:43 AM
That tower looks fantastic! :-* :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Vermis on July 09, 2016, 11:54:43 AM
Brilliant. Dead jealous.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: .:Gunslinger:. on July 09, 2016, 12:16:03 PM
Absolutely fantastic! All these little battle-scenes are simply wargaming pr0n :-* ;D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: gamer Mac on July 09, 2016, 01:55:06 PM
Out standing work Richard :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The tower is a lot bigger than I originally thought
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Bugsda on July 09, 2016, 02:42:50 PM
More amazing photos  :o Superb Captain, a towering achievement  8)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: 3 fingers on July 09, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
Those scenes are just beautiful   :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Driscoles on July 09, 2016, 03:43:26 PM
Zis is a very nice thread with lots of nice miniatures in wonderful terrain.
I peeked in from time to time and now that its done I am happy to comment how great this tower project is.
Björn
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 09, 2016, 04:55:57 PM
Thanks Bjorn and everybody  :)

Colin - yes, it's actually a pretty big piece. A whole castle of 6 - 8 towers, plus curtain walls, plus keep and interior buildings would be a mighty thing (requiring a LOT of storage space  :o)

Cheers all. Richard
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Phil Portway on July 09, 2016, 11:27:05 PM
Everything about this project is fab, from the tower to the photo set ups. Just great! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I have one to build now, which I won at our club raffle!!! o_o o_o o_o o_o
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 10, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
Thanks Phil. Enjoy it. It's a fair bit of work to make it come to life, but as you see, the end product is quite an imposing centrepiece.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Modhail on July 10, 2016, 08:59:18 AM
That's one hell of a tower! :-* Well done! (Though by now, we wouldn't expect anything less from you...)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 10, 2016, 10:05:25 AM
Khaleesi! That is one mighty phallic testament!

I think it looks marvellous!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Hammers on July 10, 2016, 04:54:35 PM
Gosh, Richard...
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (2 July - Murder holes! P9. )
Post by: Steve F on July 10, 2016, 05:20:40 PM

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/25/577_08_07_16_5_55_27_1.JPG)


It's heartening to see that, whenever danger arises, there's always one man who'll just stand around and scratch his arse ...  [right foreground]

Lovely work: tower, minis, photography, all.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Totleben on July 10, 2016, 05:37:46 PM
Wunderbar  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 11, 2016, 07:29:39 AM
What a nice tower !! And the figures look very good en mass !
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: MM on July 12, 2016, 07:21:17 AM
Not jealous, no, not at all.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Zaheer on July 12, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
It's another triumph. Where do you put all of this stuff?!
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Eric the Shed on July 12, 2016, 10:21:17 AM
Excellent piece of work sir !!

You must share your photography settings....
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Hupp n at em on July 12, 2016, 03:25:06 PM
Excellent piece of work sir !!

You must share your photography settings....

I'd also be very interested in that, it's not just his excellent hobby skills that make the presentation value of his posts so high.  :D
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Hammers on July 12, 2016, 10:24:34 PM
Why have the chaps of the holdfasts painted targets on their shirts?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 12, 2016, 10:56:22 PM
Thanks chaps.

Why have the chaps of the holdfasts painted targets on their shirts?


Burgundians are careless of their own safety it appears  ;)

It's another triumph. Where do you put all of this stuff?!

Luckily I have a games loft... Although it is getting a mite full...

Excellent piece of work sir !!

You must share your photography settings....

Truthfully Giles, I vary it with every shot. But in principle, maximum f-stop, auto white balance, and timed shutter release to avoid shake. It's only a cheap Cannon digital SLR with a macro lens. Crop to taste and auto fix levels (brightness / contrast / sharpness) afterwards. That's about it.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: syrinx0 on July 13, 2016, 03:06:53 AM
Truthfully Giles, I vary it with every shot. But in principle, maximum f-stop, auto white balance, and timed shutter release to avoid shake. It's only a cheap Cannon digital SLR with a macro lens. Crop to taste and auto fix levels (brightness / contrast / sharpness) afterwards. That's about it.

Do you do anything special with the lighting for scenes like these?
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 13, 2016, 12:33:38 PM
Do you do anything special with the lighting for scenes like these?

No, these pics were all shot in my games room above the garage. Natural daylight through the roof windows, plus the downlighter spotlights were on in the room (which I didn't notice until afterwards). No special lighting at all.

You just have to look at the image in the screen on the back of the camera and keep adjusting the exposure setting to and fro if you want to shoot darker or lighter on a particular shot. And remember you can always adjust to some extent afterwards, if the image is a bit over or under exposed...

I do not understand the underlying science of photography at all, being a total numpty when it comes to physics. So there is a huge amount of trial and error. For every image you see from me, I've shot 5, 10, 20 more images that aren't quite right. But I do have a reasonable artistic eye, which compensates for quite a lot of technical ineptitude I think ;)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: syrinx0 on July 14, 2016, 02:08:24 AM
I probably should try taking pictures somewhere other than my basement.  :)

I would say you have more than just a "reasonable" artistic eye.   lol
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Hu Rhu on July 14, 2016, 03:09:27 PM
That is a tower-tastic production.  Just fabulous and made even more so with your wonderful figures.  I have stayed away from large scale secenery in my WotR set up but I am sorely tempted to get one and play with it.

Well done and thanks for sharing all the tips and tricks along the way.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 14, 2016, 05:48:09 PM
Thanks Gary  :)
Perhaps we can have a battle of the two towers if you go ahead with one  ;)
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: The Voivod on July 15, 2016, 07:40:54 AM
Wow, those are some bloody marvelous pictures.
Fantastic painting on both the mini's as the scenery.
wow.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: SotF on July 25, 2016, 05:26:02 AM
How well does the plastic drill out?

I keep thinking about getting one and using LEDs to make torches for the sconces by the entry.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 25, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
It's pretty soft plastic and would drill easily. The sconces are very small components though. You'd need a steady hand to get a fine drill down through those.
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: **GS** on July 25, 2016, 02:25:44 PM
I join the club:
That tower is a piece of art that can be the centerpiece of many scenarios.

And I like it a lot..

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers
GS
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Admiral Benbow on July 25, 2016, 02:57:26 PM
Superb pictures, Richard. Grand piece.

I always bring back a nice souvenir from my travels. I think that thing would be ok from my visit to London next week ...  ;D :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: Corso on July 25, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
Stunning! :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Captain Blood's Renedra Tower project (8 July - Finished. Many pics P10.)
Post by: SotF on July 26, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
It's pretty soft plastic and would drill easily. The sconces are very small components though. You'd need a steady hand to get a fine drill down through those.
Was actually thinking of going through the tower itself and build it from there.