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Title: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on June 27, 2016, 02:53:36 PM
This project has been in my head for a long time, and now with Horizon wars giving me a ruleset that plays in a way that works with what I have in mind I'm finally going to start this. I've been thinking about getting some aeronefs, steampunk tanks or walkers for a long time. However I never really wanted to jump into either category fully. I have been doing 6mm sci-fi for longer and find that terrain wise I actually prefer idyllic landscapes of patchwork fields and hills dotted by villages and windmills more then general sci-fi stuff. (most art in dirtside II is this style for some reason)

I have been trying to recognisable all of this in a doable project for a while and more and more I realized that the look I wanted to aim or is best embodied by studio ghibli movies. Curvie bloated tanks bristling with barrels, huge airships and brightly coloured soldiers marching in formations. For inspiration one can't go wrong with castle in the sky, nausicaa and particularly howls moving castle.

Most vehicles I will 3d print or build from scratch, I shouldn't need more then 3 of most anyway at most. However I also want lines of infantry to face whatever opponent I end up using. Now for inspiration these guys I really liked in How's so that is pretty much the feeling I'm aiming for. However in 6mm that "feeling" probably comes down to anything from the "age of big battalions" forum board.

(http://www.asharperfocus.com/images/Howls05.jpg)

So my question to you forumites, what company makes the best 6mm Napoleonic/acw/whatver miniatures to use for this? There are a lot of companies out there and I won't need that many models in total. maybe 100-200 infantry and cavalry together max, I think that's rather tame for 6mm big battalions, but then they generally don't have heavy tanks along with them, let alone airships. Talking about airships I think I might also want to put some crew on the airships, does anybody even do those in 6mm for this "period"

Bonus question, I'm considering doing a big swarm type force for opposition, again inspired by ghibli style, but I'm not convinced on that yet... Any other suggestions?

EDIT:
Still frame reference images:
Soldiers: http://imgur.com/a/s7m0h/all (http://imgur.com/a/s7m0h/all)
Airships: http://imgur.com/a/u29rD/all (http://imgur.com/a/u29rD/all)
Armoured train: http://i.imgur.com/iaHsRIu.png (http://i.imgur.com/iaHsRIu.png)
Ships: http://imgur.com/a/blf4Q/all (http://imgur.com/a/blf4Q/all)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 27, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
Ooo, interesting  8)

I'm not sure on the best 6mm manufacturers but maybe Franco-Prussian war would be best suited?

Rather looking forward to seeing how this goes  :)

I always fancied doing a 28mm version (Nausicaa mainly with some Laputa thrown in).

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: YPU on June 27, 2016, 03:54:33 PM
Thanks James, I had plans of doing something like thin in 28mm myself for a while, even got some Napoleonic models to use with it but I'd never actually get round to the tanks and airships that way. I also currently lack a good gaming table of any size, the one I have is 1mx1m but I want to do some terrain that embodies those sweeping rural landscapes most ghibli movies have.

The bugs in Nausicaa are probably going to be my main inspiration for an opposing force, with a bit of demons from Mononoke thrown in, maybe "mini-bugs" from gzg as the main force, some ravenstar 15mm horrids for bigger beasts and some not- epic tyranids for ranged attackers maybe. Oh and the horrid space ships might also make cool creature fliers I think.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: d phipps on June 27, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
Sounds like a cool project. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes.  ;)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 27, 2016, 04:41:08 PM
The bugs sound good. I think Irregular Miniatures do something similar in 28mm that you could use for the larger Ohmu.

I also like the WWI inspired fort in Laputa that has the camouflage/dazzle painted on it but is bigger than anything for miles and miles  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: YPU on June 27, 2016, 09:31:16 PM
I said I wanted to keep this a small project, before I know it I'm building table sized fortresses with you guys.  >:(

Talking about tables, anybody know a source for 6mm ish steam trains and tracks? If I can't find any that would be something for the next print I guess.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 27, 2016, 11:29:09 PM
I would imagine Irregular miniatures again but the quality might not be that good  :?

The fortress was just an idea  ;)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: robh on June 28, 2016, 12:18:11 AM
Lovely idea for a project. A SciFantasy table done in Nausicaa style will be great.

Infantry models really depend on whether the actual scale is important.

IMHO the best true 6mm figures are from Heroics & Ros. Very fine detail and true proportions. Look great en masse but are small. You get to decide the basing on these as they come unbased on a thin carrier strip to aid painting.
http://www.heroicsandros.co.uk/ (http://www.heroicsandros.co.uk/)

The other quality option is Baccus Miniatures. Actually 8mm with oversized heads, hands and weapons. Nice detail and paint well. These are pre-based (sadly on pretty chunky mounds) in set width strips. A real bugger to try and separate if the 21mm (ish) standard frontage does not suit your rules/basing. Although not my preference these are probably the most popular range.
http://baccus6mm.com/ (http://baccus6mm.com/)

Irregular miniatures are a bit hit and miss (both in quality and in sizing) but the better ones are very good. All moulded in clumps and pre based. Respond well to a drybrush & wash painting technique, but are very difficult to detail paint.
http://irregularminiatures.co.uk/indexes/6mmindex.htm (http://irregularminiatures.co.uk/indexes/6mmindex.htm)

Look forward to seeing where you go with this.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: julesav on June 28, 2016, 11:09:06 AM
Baccus and Adler are the most detailed 6mms I can think of - Heroics and Ros are less individually detailed but good for mass effects, as are Irregular minis. I find Irregular easiest to paint as they are blocks not single figures.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: YPU on June 28, 2016, 12:05:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'm used to painting individual infantry in 6mm for sci-fi so this shouldn't be all that different. Though I do plan on having a lot more models per base then with the sci-fi stuff.

Accurate scale is not very relevant, the project is going to have a lot of fantastical elements in the end so accurate scaling isn't high on the list.

I'm leaning towards baccus since they have the simple convenience of actually having pictures of the model on the webstore instead of hidden in a gallery or something. (seriously, what is it with 6mm and not having pictures?)

Anybody who could give me a honest rundown of what's good from irregular and what's not? I'm not going for an exact period so I'm fine with mixing Napoleonic cavalry with ACW infantry and SYW artillery if that gives me the best of each. They also do indeed have trains, and the pictures they do have look decent enough. Their tracks also look good, especially for the price.

Heroics and Ros I've heard good things about and they appear to also have trains but their webshop is currently closed so I can't be sure what they have and for what price.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: YPU on June 28, 2016, 03:01:23 PM
Quick update on what I'm working on right now. No points for guessing my inspiration here.

(http://i.imgur.com/wZRi51Y.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 28, 2016, 03:42:11 PM
 lol

That's so cool  8)

I've got the 1/72 kit somewhere and was going to use it myself.

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: robh on June 28, 2016, 03:55:36 PM
Really like the start.......

Anybody who could give me a honest rundown of what's good from irregular and what's not?

You are best off ordering a few bases and deciding whether they work for you as a concept/style. If you like the "clump" basing where all the figures touch then you will not have any problems with picking and choosing from various different eras.
Personally I find the "Open Order" bases to be their best figures as they are better sculpted. The "Close Order" bases are too messy and difficult to identify individuals.

Heroics and Ros I've heard good things about and they appear to also have trains but their webshop is currently closed so I can't be sure what they have and for what price.

The store (which does actually have pictures) is closed until 1st July due to Andy having medical treatment during June,  but you can download the old style catalogue from the website.....They have a wonderful selection of trains.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers!
Post by: YPU on June 28, 2016, 04:09:34 PM
The store (which does actually have pictures) is closed until 1st July due to Andy having medical treatment during June,  but you can download the old style catalogue from the website.....They have a wonderful selection of trains.

I noted however I really want to have at least a small picture before I order, which the pdf catalogue lacks sadly. Prices appear great on all of these companies. 2 or 3 pounds for all the models of a particular type I would probably need.

Had another hour to spare:

(http://i.imgur.com/wnFjnZA.jpg)

Any sugestions are welcome. right now its very close to that model kit, but at 6mm some details will look better differently. current size the large side pods are 6mm ish. Its about as long as brigade models mamoth tank. But the please of cad would allow scaling pretty easily naturally.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 29, 2016, 07:38:21 AM
If you're having more than one then at least one of them needs the observation coupla extended  8)

Would it also be easier to have an integral base 'sculpted' on or are they not having bases at all?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2016, 09:34:11 AM
If you're having more than one then at least one of them needs the observation coupla extended  8)

Would it also be easier to have an integral base 'sculpted' on or are they not having bases at all?

cheers

James

I like the idea of the observation pod, but the big piston thing didn't really do it for me. I'm thinking maybe something like a observation balloon or kite instead. Which reminds me, I will probably be pulling inspiration from last exile as well. Actually I think they do something like that in laputa right, with a small flier on the top attached with a winch?

I was originally intending to do a integral base for ease of printing, but I think I'll split it into a few parts to get the best print direction. Separate track sections hull and turret, and probably a separate balloon or kite.


I'm thinking I'll go with Irregular minis in the end. I do like their close packed nature and they are sold in smaller quantities which is nice, since I don't need historically accurate numbers of troops. Just a few bases full of close packed ranks and fill soldiers. I'm also beginning to like their trains, and on rewatching howl I realized that features a armoured train (laputa does as well) so I'll probably end up ordering their steam train and armoured train sets, which hopefully should give me enough track for now. Maybe add in another passenger carriage, those always look strange to me in singles. I'm hoping they will let me switch out the oil tanker car with a passenger one in the steam set but well see.

Another thing I'm pondering, I feel like these guys:

(http://brigademodels.co.uk/Pics/SF300/SF300-5003.jpg)

With the right paint and setting could look a lot like this guy:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/5d/65/64/5d65643a2c0aba4b2030f2eda11a8bba.jpg)

Which isn't miyazaki but does fit in there I think. Bit of the dopey look of the robots from Laputa to them. So I am considering using a few of those power armors as "knights" or something like that, add in a bit machinenkrieger feel maybe. I'm however not sure if that would diminish the miyazakines of it all, does it down play the regular infantry to have power armor there as well?

Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: Stroezie on June 29, 2016, 01:09:27 PM
What a cool project, I'll be following this with interest.

Another good source for power armor/ small mecha are GzG's not-Votoms ( a bit bigger  +-14mm) I converted one for use with my 6mm vsf germans
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd513/stroezie/6mm/IMG_20151004_062126_zpsw6x9wdka.jpg)

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd513/stroezie/6mm/IMG_20151003_095607_zpszxypesko.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
You're right those might work! I was planning on ordering them for sci-fi stuff anyway so...

However I'm not entirely convinced I should have mechs on the human side. But if I have them they should be clunky affairs for sure. I was thinking doing something like the clockwork goblin mecha in 6mm, those votoms might be a good start. I think removing the head and adding a snub belly gun would increase the miyazakines of them for sure.

(https://sites.create-cdn.net/siteimages/29/0/9/290925/5117753.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: The_Beast on June 29, 2016, 01:41:25 PM
I like the idea of the observation pod, but the big piston thing didn't really do it for me. I'm thinking maybe something like a observation balloon or kite instead. Which reminds me, I will probably be pulling inspiration from last exile as well. Actually I think they do something like that in laputa right, with a small flier on the top attached with a winch?

Not sure if it will help, but the discussion reminded me of a recent read about such a system attempted on U-Boats. It was described as a 'motor-less autogyro'. It could be used if the boat was underway, of course, or even if there was a stiff breeze.

Apparently, though, the experience I read indicated reeling the observer and craft back took so long, any prey sighted was long gone.

Doug
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
Thanks Doug, motorles autogyro sounds exactly the right kind of crazy to me! Definitely going to keep that in mind while designing. I must say though that right now the idea of a hatch opening and a small blimp like balloon unfolding from it in a comical way is something I can really "see" in my minds eye.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 29, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
A balloon from the Akuyaku sounds a great idea  8)

As does everything else you mention  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: YPU on June 30, 2016, 12:05:50 PM
Currently running the movies on my computer so I can take screen captures for reference. God bless HD remasters every frame looks amazing.

Also been experimenting with making a river for this project. I'm kinda hooked on using the stuff roofing shingles are made of for 6mm area terrain. I use it for roads and farmlands already like you can see here:

(http://i.imgur.com/3UDrYX9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Dzy1TiH.jpg)


So I tried using that for river and or coastal sections. Just a quick test piece, every inch has another way of blending or material or type of paint. Rather miffed with how it turned out though, pretty much all of it looks good to me!

(http://i.imgur.com/ci1YHT6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1NAbBft.jpg)

And maybe the best part is that since all the materials used have some flex (yes even the banks) the whole thing can still bend a bit without cracking. So now I need to seriously consider what shape rivers and coast I want for this terrain set, since I want to paint it all in one go and have the water colour match.

(http://i.imgur.com/k16gYRM.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Help me decide on soldiers! tank render WIP
Post by: Stroezie on June 30, 2016, 12:37:09 PM
Wow, that river piece looks awesome :-* :-* :-*

Any chance of a tutorial?
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 30, 2016, 12:57:36 PM
The water does look great though I might suggest to brighten all the colours a bit?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on June 30, 2016, 01:05:42 PM
Thanks Both!

Any chance of a tutorial?

I'll see if I can convince my girlfriend to take pictures while I do the actual batch. Her phone takes a lot better pictures, plus she actually keeps stuff like lighting in mind.  lol

The water does look great though I might suggest to brighten all the colours a bit?

Definitely. I counted on the paint drying a bit brighter but I think the black base material cancelled that out. Since it was a test batch I wasn't bothered to do much about that. It's a bit brighter in person as well, but it could be a bit more so.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: The_Beast on June 30, 2016, 01:19:16 PM
"...pretty much all of it looks good to me! ""

Well 'good' translates to 'amazing', I accept that judgement.  ;)

Definitely. I counted on the paint drying a bit brighter but I think the black base material cancelled that out. Since it was a test batch I wasn't bothered to do much about that. It's a bit brighter in person as well, but it could be a bit more so.

Maybe, but I was just thinking 'angry sea... ooo...'  lol

Doug
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on June 30, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
"...pretty much all of it looks good to me! ""

Well 'good' translates to 'amazing', I accept that judgement.  ;)

Maybe, but I was just thinking 'angry sea... ooo...'  lol

Doug

Thanks Doug,

I think I'll keep this colour and the wave/foam for a board edge sea, and make the river a bit lighter in colour, maybe do a bit more fade for depth look, and less waves. I spend the bit of sun we had today at the riverside, and I've decided I want a bunch of riverboats for my board. And a harbour, at least a small one.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 30, 2016, 02:57:41 PM
And a large SD ironclad limping into harbour  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: BaronVonJ on June 30, 2016, 03:24:05 PM
Can't go wrong with Baccuss. Has both FPW and Nappies. I'm very into this project.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: PatG on June 30, 2016, 03:29:09 PM
Very interested in the project. Love Miyazaki.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on June 30, 2016, 05:42:49 PM
And a large SD ironclad limping into harbour  :D

Don't have to explain anything do I.  lol

Love Miyazaki.

Looks like we all do here.


In the mean time I'm still wondering at rules. I like horizon war, but I'm not if it would work with Napoleonic infantry and super-heavy airships vs bug swarms. In the mean time I'm looking at the Hordes of the Empire mod for HotT, Though I'm still not sure I actually like HotT.

I have the core book for earonef, and wasn't that impressed. I know there are a number of rules expansions for it and I believe there is a land ironclad book that works with it. Would that be worth taking a look at for this? Does it have monster rules or at least rules for say barbaric tribes and elephants that I could re-purpose?
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 30, 2016, 06:10:34 PM
Don't have to explain anything do I.  lol

 lol

Nope  :D

Not sure about rules though, never played anything in 6mm before apart from Cold War tank battles and standard Napoleonics  ???

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: BaronVonJ on June 30, 2016, 07:17:25 PM
I hesitate to throw this in, but would Dystopian Wars work? It seems to use block of infantry with airships and tanks.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on June 30, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
I hesitate to throw this in, but would Dystopian Wars work? It seems to use block of infantry with airships and tanks.

hmm, I only played first edition and wasn't that impressed, but second edition did introduce infantry stands like you say. Probably need to scale things up, since that is meant for 2mm (ish?) stuff rather then 6 but it might work.   o_o
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on July 01, 2016, 01:31:16 PM
Bit more work on the tank, added some barrels to the front just to get the feel for those a bit better, will probably re-do those later on. Trying to get a satisfying top part of the flier to stick out of the back. current arangement of portholes has a strong eyes like appearance which works for the style I hope.

(http://i.imgur.com/61FQMdF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IzolawJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uD2ZYsp.jpg)

While taking These I concluded a miyazaki design would never have that simple hinges on the lids. So next step is to add slits with swing arms that would allow the lids to slide to the side of the hump to release the balloon. then figure out how the inside actually looks without the balloon in it and model that for at least one print.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 02, 2016, 05:29:12 AM
Looking good  8)

Could I suggest a slightly shorter barrel?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on July 02, 2016, 05:08:42 PM
Like I said I'm probably going to re-do the entire barrel cluster. I'm trying not to think to much about any of the barrels since it's going to be a lot easier to place them in whatever direction will suit my printing orientation in the end, no reason to make this more difficult then it has to be.

Can't go wrong with Baccuss. Has both FPW and Nappies. I'm very into this project.

I agree their models look great but they sell in lots a bit larger then I need for now. Amusing I stick to horizon wars, or at least "6mm skirmish" size as you could call it Even a single pack would provide far more models then I need. I think I'm better of going with irregular stuff, since for the same price I can order a bit of every troop type. Plus they do have those trains, and civilians which I think might be nice and cattle which I really could use on my terrain. I think for civies I should probably go more with ww1 then napy where possible.

Talking about troop types. I think some type of artillery might be cool, I originally was just thinking Napoleonic cannons, but considering the kind of guns the vehicles have, I think ww1 artillery pieces might be more in order. (irregular might provide again, though at what quality I don't know)

I got a new shipment of 3d printer resin in today, so I hope to finish the tanks tomorrow and print up at least one.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on July 02, 2016, 10:06:19 PM
I've updated my first post with links to the reference stills I took from Howl's. Re-watched nausicaa and while it still caries the same style no troops I want to copy I think. Still need to re-watch Castle in the sky.

I'm settling on the thought of ordering from irregular, they  offer nice small packages and a lot of other stuff I can really use, like the trains, civilians, cattle and loose windows doors and roofs for making your own buildings.  

For infantry I figure these are in fact exactly franco-prusian French line infantry.

(http://i.imgur.com/n1nfGNM.png)



And the only cavalry we see are in fact cuirassiers

(http://i.imgur.com/Qsp6ABG.png)


However they apparently speak, or at least write in german:

(http://i.imgur.com/WXOconY.png)


I am still considering if I want to do these guys:

(http://i.imgur.com/XOo6WNp.png)

They might actually work nicely as airship born troopers I think. Though like everybody I like the look of greatcoats so I might end up going with greatcoat troops for airborne infantry.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: von Lucky on July 02, 2016, 11:26:12 PM
Following with interest - as I've had ideas about this too.

Definitely keep the sailors (because you'll be doing battleships too before too long ;))!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Some terain tests.
Post by: YPU on July 05, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
Some new resin and container arrived for my printer yesterday, so I had a good incentive to finish the design and set up a print for yesterday evening. So here it is.

First off a few pictures just assembled, no further finishing done.

(http://i.imgur.com/ccVA9vE.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/eIvrn4h.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6KqWNSL.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rY2kM6u.jpg)

And with a bit of scale reference.


TBH this resin doesn't photograph that well so I gave it a quick ink wash. Bit quick and dirty but boy from tabletop height it almost looks ready painted.  lol

(http://i.imgur.com/MPJg2t8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ybw4HNT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3dxZ2z2.jpg)

Dirty tracks, oh well.


(http://i.imgur.com/Lw9ihzt.jpg)

Those panel lines on the side are 0.1mm wide and 0.05mm deep.  lol

(http://i.imgur.com/qoD98HU.jpg)

At some point during assembly I managed to snap off the left side rear turret barrels as you can see, its a clean brake though so I might glue some plasticard tubes there.


(http://i.imgur.com/dbgd3ZB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jAY8EAE.jpg)

Panel lining on the rear of the turret didn't show up that great, but if you look closely you can see the ink actually went into the smaller barrel a full 1.5mm, so I'm kind of happy with that printer detail.

All in all I think I might do a version at 10-15% size increase, since it doens't look that large next to relatively ok sized 6mm infantry and tanks, even if those are based on a rather hefty scenic base. Obviously not the infantry I will use for this, just used for reference. Paypal's conversion rate is still dropping so I should soon order from somebody UK based. Heroics and ross is back online but with almost no pictures last time I checked.  :?  So irregular it will be I think.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First tank 3D printed page 3.
Post by: von Lucky on July 05, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
OH MY GAWD! Sweet tank.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First tank 3D printed page 3.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 05, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
Absolutely love it  :-* :-* :-*

I want to get my 1/72 kit out now and build it  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First tank 3D printed page 3.
Post by: robh on July 05, 2016, 03:57:34 PM
Oh Wow, that is superb. Really superb.

re H&R pictures: here is a blog post that has a bunch of pictures of my Volley & Bayonet Franco Prussian H&R figures. Taken for the look of the battle rather than detail of the figures but should give you enough of an idea on how they look:
http://wargamestenerife.blogspot.com.es/search/label/Franco-prusiana (http://wargamestenerife.blogspot.com.es/search/label/Franco-prusiana)

They are great little figures.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First tank 3D printed page 3.
Post by: Vermis on July 05, 2016, 04:35:01 PM
That's not too shabby. :)

Second Robh. I got some Heroics & Ros colonial brits as 'not-Praetorian IG', and they're pretty nifty. Less detail than some 6mm, but very nice proportions. I'd agonised between those and the Baccus figures with more detail but bobbleheads, and don't regret the choice.

No pics at the mo, unfortunately!
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Post by: YPU on July 05, 2016, 04:36:24 PM
OH MY GAWD! Sweet tank.

Absolutely love it  :-* :-* :-*


Cheers gents!

re H&R pictures: here is a blog post that has a bunch of pictures of my Volley & Bayonet Franco Prussian H&R figures. Taken for the look of the battle rather than detail of the figures but should give you enough of an idea on how they look:
http://wargamestenerife.blogspot.com.es/search/label/Franco-prusiana (http://wargamestenerife.blogspot.com.es/search/label/Franco-prusiana)

Thanks that does help a lot! And now I'm doubting again... darn you.

I see what you mean by the detailing. That printer is simply amazing. Bloody nice modeling on the tank too. In fact that tank is really really nice 3d modeling.

Its all smoke and mirrors the actual 3d work is rather shoddy, I managed to get my geometry confused to the point where rendering crashed my video card. Nothing you see on the eventual mesh or print, the good thing is I think I know where the bug crept in and I can still fix it for the future.
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Post by: Vermis on July 05, 2016, 04:44:06 PM
Its all smoke and mirrors the actual 3d work is rather shoddy, I managed to get my geometry confused to the point where rendering crashed my video card.

This is why I resist digital modelling so far, because I'm not entirely sure what that means, and it terrifies me.
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Post by: YPU on July 05, 2016, 04:51:48 PM
I hate it when you get those little imperfections in the model. Some are almost impossible to spot but they will screw a print every time.

With rhino 3d is mostly when you start doing really complex boolean stuff with deformed curved surfaces with linked offsets and stupid stuff like that.

This is why I resist digital modelling so far, because I'm not entirely sure what that means, and it terrifies me.

I'll freely admit I'm not sure what it means by "Closed nonmanifold polysurface" either.
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Post by: The_Beast on July 05, 2016, 05:04:33 PM
Could you share how long a print run that was?

Doug
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Post by: YPU on July 05, 2016, 06:45:29 PM
Could you share how long a print run that was?

Doug

4 hours 20 minutes. But as always that depends mostly on the highest points, I could print four in less then double that.
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Post by: The_Beast on July 05, 2016, 06:51:41 PM
Thanks!

Doug
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Post by: d phipps on July 07, 2016, 08:09:18 PM
Fantastic work!  :-*

I am sure this was asked already, but can you tell me what printer you are using?

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Post by: eilif on July 07, 2016, 11:37:06 PM
Brilliant work!

Like others I have the 1/72 model.  It's going to be slightly rescaled for my Squats someday...
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Post by: Captain Darling on July 08, 2016, 03:11:57 AM
Great work!

Hmmm I'll have to sell off my tools stop scratch building and buy a 3D printer... :)
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Post by: The_Beast on July 10, 2016, 01:32:42 PM
...
Hmmm I'll have to sell off my tools stop scratch building and buy a 3D printer... :)

Noooooo!!!  :o

*ahem* One shouldn't be too hasty...

Gradual is as gradual does...

Doug
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Post by: YPU on July 10, 2016, 07:49:58 PM
Thanks all!


I am sure this was asked already, but can you tell me what printer you are using?


I'm using a form 1+.


Hmmm I'll have to sell off my tools stop scratch building and buy a 3D printer... :)


Don't be so hasty, not shown here are the 28 points where the tank was supported upside down from the print bed, which had to be carefully snapped, cut and sawed of after which they needed precision fitting to get the parts all together. Oh and a decent blob of super glue. 3d printers area epic tool, but far from a golden hammer yet!

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Post by: The_Beast on July 10, 2016, 08:17:40 PM
So,  he might need all those tools to finish the job anyway?  ???

 lol

Doug
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Post by: YPU on July 10, 2016, 08:31:11 PM
So,  he might need all those tools to finish the job anyway?  ???

 lol

Doug

That's exactly what I was implying yes.  :D
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Post by: YPU on July 12, 2016, 03:13:34 PM
Got in some more inspirational reading, since it seems like I'm mostly going for howl's moving castle anyway. I remember borrowing it of a friend more then 10 years ago, I recall at some point it the stories split off quite a bit but who knows I might find some interesting background information to interoperate. Or at least a description of a better flag then the pale yellow and pink we have in the movie. I might end up giving each unit its own flag for easy identification.

(http://i.imgur.com/KaWkPWC.jpg?1)
(that picture could have been smaller, oops)


I've also started on a walled farm, I've made a Pinterest board with inspiration sources if anybody is interested, you can find it here (https://nl.pinterest.com/tim_popelier/hoeve/).

And finally I have collected all the materials I need to produce my rivers on large scale, so a step by step should follow soon.



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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 12, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
I'm not clicking on that Pintrest link until I have a couple of hours spare time. That site steals time like no other  lol

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 12, 2016, 06:32:34 PM
Very true, I haven't even looked at it myself, just browsed the web for dutch and belgian walled farms, "hoeve" and send them there.


On the rules side of things I realized that Alien squad leader has a few army lists that might fit my intended forces. On the other hand I might just go with the current version of Web Epic and use imperial guard and tyranid rules. Not sure how well that plays on a smaller table though, I think GW games always aim for 4x6.

Talking about forces I have some samples on the way from Eureka (Thanks Nic!), who turn out to stock and cast the irregular stuff themselves.
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Post by: von Lucky on July 12, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
This behemoth is starting to get into its stride.
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Post by: Jagannath on July 15, 2016, 05:17:49 PM
I love this - I've wanted to do a science fantasy/black powder/Nausicaa project in 6mm for ages, and like you I'd want it to be low figure count (relatively speaking) - Exactly why I like Horizon Wars too funnily enough.

For rules, I was going to use Mayhem https://bombshell-games.com/mayhem/ (https://bombshell-games.com/mayhem/) and reskin the ranged weapons (so the crossbows become rifles etc.)

Wicked ideas here. I'm currently battling man-flu and have been left to my own devices, I'm inspired to put Nausicaa on!

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Post by: Stroezie on July 15, 2016, 06:33:13 PM
There's an expantion for Horizon Wars that covers beasties like Xenomorphs, Kaiju and even dragons, it's still in Beta you can download it here http://www.precinctomega.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/160616-hw-biowar.pdf (http://www.precinctomega.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/160616-hw-biowar.pdf)
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Post by: Jagannath on July 15, 2016, 08:53:33 PM
The 'gun beasts' troop type does add a load of flexibility actually as it let's you represent melee focussed infantry too.
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Post by: YPU on July 15, 2016, 09:30:38 PM
Oh yes I'm quite active on the HW facebook group myself.  :D You'll notice the tank on there as well. The Biowar rules can use some finetuning (already posted some questions on that) but they are indeed exactly what I'm planing to use for the bugs. But I'm going to try and focus on the humans first. I think I'd be happier to have on complete force rather then two half finished ones.  :D
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Post by: Vermis on July 16, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
Talking about 6mm bugs and Miyazaki, it's only just clicked with me: I wonder if he's an influence on the old Epic Tyranid assault spawn...

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/15955/nausicaa_1407504786_crop_550x309.png)

(https://sites.google.com/site/epic40k/_/rsrc/1267554227246/tyranids_exocrine-full.jpg?height=290&width=600)
(https://sites.google.com/site/epic40k/_/rsrc/1267554231300/tyranid_malefactor_haruspex-full.jpg?height=293&width=600)

https://sites.google.com/site/epic40k/tyranids
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Post by: YPU on July 16, 2016, 09:28:23 PM
I'm sure that over the years they have been part of the design inspiration for sure. In fact I think the idea that the "top" armor plate it somewhere behind the head, overlapping to both sides is something the Nids also do these days, might be spawned by ghibli.

Meanwhile I am concluding I can spend an entire evening on something a few cm. to a side when working on a 6mm building.  lol Ah well, I guess a walled farm is quite a large building.
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Post by: d phipps on July 18, 2016, 06:29:52 PM
Looking forward to seeing more of your builds!
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Post by: YPU on July 20, 2016, 03:51:15 PM
Thanks David!

New stuff should be up soon, I received a bunch of samples from eureka along with some unrelated unreleased stuff I'm helping on. In any case I now have a bunch of stuff to try and paint, and also help with the scale of terrain.  lol

I also slapped some paint on the tank. Its been bloody hot (by my standard) over here and I find it uncomfortable to sit hunched over a paint station in this weather but I managed to get at least some basic colours on the tank. Hopefully I will finish a few more pieces of terrain soon so I can use those as backdrop for pictures.

(http://i.imgur.com/PaaOt36.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KzKfun3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZJopFgK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ru2BVkR.jpg)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 20, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
That's come out a treat  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
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Post by: The_Beast on July 20, 2016, 05:42:49 PM
Seriously scrumptious, ol' bean!

Doug
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Post by: YPU on July 20, 2016, 05:48:14 PM
Thanks guys, means a lot coming from you.  :)

Now that I'm looking at the pictures I remember that I was considering doing a red and white stripes on the sides like some ww1 tanks. Might bring a spot of colour to the thing. But I'm not sure if its very Miyazaki. What does my panel of judges say?  :D
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 20, 2016, 07:27:15 PM
No  :D
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Post by: YPU on July 20, 2016, 08:56:26 PM
go for it. If it does not work out, print another. That is one of the upsides about this tech.

Point

I might want to wait until I have a good idea for national colours. That off pink and pale yellow is still horrible. Putting it next to the infantry I instantly had an impulse to add a flag to the rear, but I need a colour scheme for that.  o_o

I also now remember one of the big differences between howl the movie and the book, the book doesn't focus on the war at all.  lol Still even the first few chapters of the book explain a lot of minor details and plot points that make howl more logical.
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Post by: VoidValue on July 20, 2016, 09:32:03 PM
Awesome idea.

Now the concept of a 6mm FF-style force is running through my head, though.

Chocobo-knights facing off against clockwerk goblin mechs.
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Post by: YPU on July 20, 2016, 10:00:07 PM
Awesome idea.

Now the concept of a 6mm FF-style force is running through my head, though.

Chocobo-knights facing off against clockwerk goblin mechs.

Ages ago somebody mentioned the idea of a Exalted 6mm force. Very much a FF style there also.
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Post by: VoidValue on July 20, 2016, 11:05:22 PM
Ages ago somebody mentioned the idea of a Exalted 6mm force. Very much a FF style there also.

That's something I've been chewing over as a wargame idea but I'll have to think on it more.

You should definitely find some chocobo models from somewhere and try posing them with Miyazaki knights on. I think it'd look excellent.
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Post by: 6milPhil on July 21, 2016, 12:04:59 AM
That's turned out well.
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Post by: YPU on July 21, 2016, 10:43:37 AM

You should definitely find some chocobo models from somewhere and try posing them with Miyazaki knights on. I think it'd look excellent.

Chocobo? You mean Horseclaws (http://nausicaa.wikia.com/wiki/Horseclaw) right.  :D

Talking about horseclaws, I'm trying hard to track down the Nausicaa manga's since they appear to have more back-story and creatures.
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Post by: VoidValue on July 21, 2016, 01:38:27 PM
Chocobo? You mean Horseclaws (http://nausicaa.wikia.com/wiki/Horseclaw) right.  :D

Talking about horseclaws, I'm trying hard to track down the Nausicaa manga's since they appear to have more back-story and creatures.

Of course, horseclaws. Final Fantasy definitely wasn't "inspired" by these. :p

They're pretty easy to find online.

Just thinking on that, you could probably get 28mm chickens and use them as 10/15mm mounts. 6mm might be a bit too small though (15mm chickens, maybe? do they even exist?).
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Post by: YPU on July 21, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
I appreciate the gesture but you might want to remove that link, its against forum rules to post links to illegally hosted material.
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Post by: VoidValue on July 21, 2016, 01:57:41 PM
I appreciate the gesture but you might want to remove that link, its against forum rules to post links to illegally hosted material.

Snipped.

Also, it's £30 online (https://wordery.com/nausicaa-of-the-valley-of-the-wind-hayao-miyazaki-9781421550640?currency=GBP&gtrck=OE4rSzF1Y3pMRWFvOXV5V21mc1hTNzBsMkwyd09DVGxWM011NWJERGZGRlBTcTQwWnBpQmxZWm5kYkNYV01kSjdlb0l0UEFsYkVTRVFBWDBZL05HUnc9PQ&gclid=CjwKEAjw5cG8BRDQj_CNh9nwxTUSJAAHdX3fWDx972v5EBPyPbHzWYhTXaIlj0q27yjHhqOonoEigRoCV0_w_wcB).
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Post by: YPU on July 21, 2016, 03:50:33 PM
Found a friend who has it and will met me borrow it. Might still buy it if its any good.

In any case, first model painted! Just a quick test, I think I might want to mix some brighter red/pink for these guys. I used the old GW scab red, and realized I have two pots of it lying around, one pretty low so I might as well mix that up for this one.

(http://i.imgur.com/NOGNqnN.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/dqFUQET.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hwipzBU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/eVopnIx.jpg)
"Group shot" the current grand total of what I have painted for this project.  lol

(http://i.imgur.com/n1nfGNM.png)
Reference material.


These irregular sculpts are pretty big, close to 8mm even. Not a problem, but I might do that print at 15% size increase now.

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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 21, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Yes, I think a bigger tank would work better  :)

Maybe do a simpler version but at that 'size'?

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 21, 2016, 04:27:46 PM
Yes, I think a bigger tank would work better  :)

Maybe do a simpler version but at that 'size'?


Wouldn't it always.  lol

But yea, I think a MK2 might be in order, I might end up with three size classes of tank in the end anyway, I think I want something like a ft17 for this also.
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Post by: Dr Mathias on July 21, 2016, 04:32:13 PM
Oh man this is a sweet project. Miyazaki miniatures have been on my wish list for years.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First infantry painted page 6
Post by: YPU on July 21, 2016, 08:14:11 PM
Oh man this is a sweet project. Miyazaki miniatures have been on my wish list for years.

Now I'm curious what exactly has been on your wish list specifically.


In the mean time I've also started collecting a list of models to use for my bugs, I spotted these guys  (https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/sg15-x17.html) on the 15mm facebook group, I think they might work as ranged support for me. Their faces are nice and greebly like the bugs in nausicaa.
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Post by: YPU on July 22, 2016, 01:36:28 PM
I've been trying a bit on an airship. This is really a rough sketch, I should put pencil to paper first really but my hand drawing is terrible so I ofthen prefer to sketch in CAD. I'm pleased with the wings, the body shape isn't that great though. Complex curves, always complex curves.  o_o

(http://i.imgur.com/lUeYOaA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/A24MZbJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qHw9tDI.jpg)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 22, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
Looks good so far  :)

Quite possibly loose the front 'bridge' and change the top somehow  ???

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 22, 2016, 02:07:51 PM
Most of the howl airships have the bridge, and I kind of like it, though I might shrink it down a bit and make it more of a deck like on some. I'll probably scrap the entire fuselage it has been stretched and bend and twisted to the point of breaking with very little actual results. I should probably start with sharp edges and round them when I'm done, rather then trying to fit the round shapes to them.

Still I like the flappy action on the wings.  :D
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 22, 2016, 03:52:07 PM
Maybe a cross between this and the Goliath from Laputa?

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 22, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
It's interesting, I always envisioned the goliath as a big bulky thing, but looking at images its not that fat. Even has a bit of a slender midpart.

Maybe I should shelve the largest ship for now and try for something smaller, I really like the "fingers" on this smaller ship.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ix3QWIdQ1lM/TnhsCvzow9I/AAAAAAAAABE/DqlGGogF_4c/s640/howls+airship+4+-+1.png)


Looking at Goliath I maybe should start generating a bunch of bean like shapes and keep smashing them together until it looks good.  ::)
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Post by: The_Beast on July 22, 2016, 05:08:23 PM
I've been trying a bit on an airship...

I do have to mention the flyers in the John Carter of Mars movie, if you go with sparkly wings.

Doug
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Post by: sean_68333 on July 22, 2016, 09:12:16 PM
Wow.  Just, Wow!

I love those tanks and I like what you've got for the flyer so far as well.

I'm not sure if you have decided on infantry yet, but I'd say Baccus has some great stuff.  For alien beasties, I'd suggest www.onslaughtmini.com/ (http://www.onslaughtmini.com/).  Their Legion line are very similar to the tyranid designs.  They don't have much in the way of big beasts, but it should fit the bill for infantry.

Thanks for sharing.  This is all very cool and I look forward to seeing more.
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Post by: YPU on July 22, 2016, 10:13:55 PM
Maybe a cross between this and the Goliath from Laputa?

Tied that, not a bad first look. Right now its very much goliath with flappy wings, but I'll tweak that more later on. I fear your right though that that bridge needs to be a lot smaller in order to look good.  >:(

(http://i.imgur.com/yAuct9z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/o5pwyEv.jpg)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 23, 2016, 07:20:43 AM
Yeah, that's getting there  8) 8)

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 23, 2016, 10:36:11 AM
For alien beasties, I'd suggest www.onslaughtmini.com/ (http://www.onslaughtmini.com/).  Their Legion line are very similar to the tyranid designs.  They don't have much in the way of big beasts, but it should fit the bill for infantry.

Thanks for sharing.  This is all very cool and I look forward to seeing more.

I've considered the onslaught stuff, but tbh most tyranid designs don't have enough legs to my taste.  ;D
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Post by: YPU on July 23, 2016, 07:19:16 PM
More progress. Nicknamed it old bloaty. I think the curves will work out well when printed. The windows should look better when printed, going by how they ended up looking on the tank in the end. The tail is still a place holder, copied directly from the Goliath design. I might do some engines in the back, since I've found an interesting technique for building blurred props. (not printed though!)

(http://i.imgur.com/iva3ESB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/36jPHLt.jpg)

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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 23, 2016, 08:10:29 PM
Yes, that looks much better  8)

How about for the rear fins have the vertical ones in the middle and another set of the horizontal on top?

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 23, 2016, 09:56:30 PM
Trying something completely different for the back end. More like howl and the original source material. (Actual VSF)

(http://i.imgur.com/bO3JES1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8o5pyDG.jpg)

I've also added bit of a gondola with doors and some sort of rails at the back end. I might re-do it with the entire back end functioning as doors like those large transport aircraft rather  then the current folding doors.


(http://i.imgur.com/vPNfMMR.jpg)


EDIT: The girl made me re-do the renders as the compositions were bugging her.  lol
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 24, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
Personally, I prefer the Laputa style fins, but that's just me  :)

I like the gondola  8)

cheers

James
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Post by: YPU on July 24, 2016, 09:25:36 AM
I liked them but they would be a challenge to print. (and cast if anybody is up to the challenge) I do think some horizontal elements on the back are in order, maybe a pair or parallel wings clamping engine pods or something. More drawing board time.
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Post by: YPU on July 24, 2016, 01:43:12 PM
This kinda just happened. There goes my Sunday morning.

(http://i.imgur.com/htFqfVZ.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 24, 2016, 02:06:50 PM
 ;D Love 'em  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: The_Beast on July 24, 2016, 03:06:20 PM
This kinda just happened. There goes my Sunday morning.
;D Love 'em  8) 8) 8)

Have to admit, what he said...

"EDIT: The girl made me re-do the renders as the compositions were bugging her. "
"Personally, I prefer the Laputa style fins, but that's just me "
"...but they would be a challenge to print. (and cast if anybody is up to the challenge)..."

Normally, the challenge can be lessened in casting by making it multi-part. Have you tried this with printed objects? Oh, and what was 'bugging her?'

Doug
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on July 24, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
"EDIT: The girl made me re-do the renders as the compositions were bugging her. "
"Personally, I prefer the Laputa style fins, but that's just me "
"...but they would be a challenge to print. (and cast if anybody is up to the challenge)..."

Normally, the challenge can be lessened in casting by making it multi-part. Have you tried this with printed objects? Oh, and what was 'bugging her?'


Thanks guys, printing a sword and shield armed one right now, Most of the unit should be heavy rifles though.

Multi part is still an option, but these things are pretty simple in shape, but would require a lot of support point to keep them stable. I think if I want to do something like that I'd be better of scratch building it rather then trying to clean up those prints.

Probably nobody actually saw the originals, I replaced them pretty quickly, they had the point of interest of in corners and strange cut-offs mostly. Basically they were badly framed pictures.
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Post by: VoidValue on July 24, 2016, 04:01:59 PM
This kinda just happened. There goes my Sunday morning.
<snip>

These are excellent.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First infantry painted page 6
Post by: YPU on July 24, 2016, 04:02:47 PM
These are excellent.

In two hours we will know if they print OK.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on July 25, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
you are a machine of production at the moment


Don't tell Nic, I have been a bit slow on his stuff at the moment.  :?
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: N.C.S.E on July 25, 2016, 09:24:20 AM
Love your ideas, big fan of Miyazaki.

On comment I'd make on your designs is that they look a little too art nouveau/deco with all the plant like curves etc. When I look at Miyazaki's craft, they do have a certain sleekness to them, but they also have this extremely grey industrial slabness to them as well.

Just my 2 cents/yen :P
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on July 25, 2016, 09:30:21 AM
Love your ideas, big fan of Miyazaki.

On comment I'd make on your designs is that they look a little too art nouveau/deco with all the plant like curves etc. When I look at Miyazaki's craft, they do have a certain sleekness to them, but they also have this extremely grey industrial slabness to them as well.

Just my 2 cents/yen :P

I get what your saying, but most of the stuff I've done so far has been almost directly copied from existing ghibli designs.  :D
On the aircraft though your right, this is mostly because I need the curves to look good and then will flatten of some areas with more mechanical details.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. First infantry painted page 6
Post by: commissarmoody on July 26, 2016, 10:08:04 PM
This kinda just happened. There goes my Sunday morning.

(http://i.imgur.com/htFqfVZ.jpg)
They look great, wish I could source some 28mm figs for Nasica. :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Mr.Marx on July 26, 2016, 11:29:28 PM
This is just fantastic.

That airship captures the look of the one from HMC perfectly. I'm not sure about the new 'spiky bit off the top of an iron gate' tail fin though. Are you going to add big guns like the ones on the Goliath or the ones from HMC? And how big would the thing be when printed out?

Will be watching this one.

MM.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on July 27, 2016, 08:59:40 AM
This is just fantastic.

That airship captures the look of the one from HMC perfectly. I'm not sure about the new 'spiky bit off the top of an iron gate' tail fin though. Are you going to add big guns like the ones on the Goliath or the ones from HMC? And how big would the thing be when printed out?


The tail fin is very much like the ones in howl, which in turn were inspired by the work of Albert Robida, most of his airships have fins like that. I wanted to incorporate some more of that influence as well, just for the fun of it.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ed/85/6d/ed856d1123e470f65005b1c617b41d78.jpg)

But I get what your saying, on the whole the back end does still need something, probably something horizontal.

Oh yes there are going to be a lot of guns on the airship, mostly small turrets like the Goliath I think. A few of the HMC designs of cannons that are just too large imho. I'm aiming at making this one something between 7 and 10 Cm. I'm aiming for a game to be played on a very small (table 3x3 feet) so it would be pretty big at that size.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Mr.Marx on July 27, 2016, 02:32:47 PM
The tail fin is very much like the ones in howl, which in turn were inspired by the work of Albert Robida, most of his airships have fins like that. I wanted to incorporate some more of that influence as well, just for the fun of it.

But I get what your saying, on the whole the back end does still need something, probably something horizontal.

Oh yes there are going to be a lot of guns on the airship, mostly small turrets like the Goliath I think. A few of the HMC designs of cannons that are just too large imho. I'm aiming at making this one something between 7 and 10 Cm. I'm aiming for a game to be played on a very small (table 3x3 feet) so it would be pretty big at that size.

On the tail fin, have you coincided something along the lines of the tail of the early Lebaudy airships? I've always seen them as the perfect combination of elegance and practicality.

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag311/ATJ2/Forum%20Links/MA_00639975_m6hueo_zpsg9a1qozx.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/ATJ2/media/Forum%20Links/MA_00639975_m6hueo_zpsg9a1qozx.jpg.html)

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag311/ATJ2/Forum%20Links/Patrie_Empennage_1906-1907_zpsfqu3rc0t.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/ATJ2/media/Forum%20Links/Patrie_Empennage_1906-1907_zpsfqu3rc0t.jpg.html)

All sounds fantastic. Will be watching this one.

MM.


Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on July 31, 2016, 09:46:53 AM
Yes those tails are definitely something to think about.

The armored guard printed pretty nicely, the only thing that didn't really show up was the face slits, which I would have loved but you can't have everything. I printed two sword and shield guys, two with rifles, one with a big old axe for a leader and a second row of the guys without their arms showing.

Clearly I also wasn't the only one with nausica on the mind, looks like somebody is releasing an articulated version of those winged tapeworm things. Looks pretty cool but a but rich for my blood.  (http://hlj.com/product/KYD12011/Sci)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Vermis on August 01, 2016, 01:05:02 PM
Luvly airships! Can't wait for a gander at your final design.

I've considered the onslaught stuff, but tbh most tyranid designs don't have enough legs to my taste.  ;D

Quite right, quite right. :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on August 01, 2016, 02:18:25 PM
Quite right, quite right. :D

Looking at the epic nids, I like the bigger stuff, but not the small scale versions of existing models. Thinking about what it was I didn't like I concluded that they are far to human for me. I want actual bugs, not the guy in a rubber suit most 28mm nid stuff has. More legs is a big part of it, but there are epic specific tyranid critters I do like.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Vermis on August 01, 2016, 03:05:08 PM
I'm probably preaching to the choir, but have you seen the 6mm bugs from Dark Realm Miniatures? Ironically I passed them over because they didn't look tyranid-y enough for my liking, but they might suit a Miyazaki-themed project. :)

Linking to Microworld because DRM don't have pics up on their site. Some that might be more suitable (less man-in-a-suitish) but there are others:

http://www.microworldgames.com/collections/dark-realm-miniatures/products/critters-defenders
http://www.microworldgames.com/collections/dark-realm-miniatures/products/kraon-beast
http://www.microworldgames.com/collections/dark-realm-miniatures/products/leapers
http://www.microworldgames.com/collections/dark-realm-miniatures/products/malcore-beasts
http://www.microworldgames.com/collections/dark-realm-miniatures/products/skyth-beast-1
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on August 01, 2016, 04:28:27 PM
I know them, and while most of them don't have the humanoid aspect they aren't bug like enough to my liking. I'm being rather pedantic I know. I might just end up sculpting them myself in the end.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Vermis on August 01, 2016, 04:55:21 PM
I'm being rather pedantic I know.

Hey, now you're preaching to the choir. ;)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: VoidValue on August 01, 2016, 08:33:08 PM
I know them, and while most of them don't have the humanoid aspect they aren't bug like enough to my liking. I'm being rather pedantic I know. I might just end up sculpting them myself in the end.

There's the tyranid rippers (especially the older metals) who are great for this kind of thing.

There's always Khurasan who does 15mm:
Space Demon Nymphs
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/t906.jpg)

Vespulid Maggots
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/vespulid-maggots.jpg)

Giant Ants
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/pla2.jpg)

Sporecasters
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/sporecasters.jpg)

Bloodworm
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/bloodworm.jpg)

Giant Insects
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/t1204.jpg)

Escargon - Perfect for a big guy
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/pla1.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on August 31, 2016, 09:44:49 AM
And I'm back from a nice 10 day walking trip in Dartmoor and I'm now full of terrain ideas. What I really should do is get the infantry finished up and decide what I'm going to use though.  ::) Oh and print the tank a bit larger and make a smaller version...  lol
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on August 31, 2016, 11:37:41 AM
Did you have a good walkabout?

Oh definitely, it only rained half the days, we only got lost in a quagmire on one walk and I only once mistook a cowpat for a stepping stone. :D Lots of moors lots of picturesque valleys and rivers and a lot of ancient history. Also picked up half a dozen books or so on the cheap. In short, everything I expected and wanted from a good old English holiday. Afterwards it hit me again how mind numbingly flat my home country is.

Actually I printed and painted some of those armoured knights before I left, I should post a picture of those later today!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: 6milPhil on August 31, 2016, 05:05:27 PM
And I'm back from a nice 10 day walking trip in Dartmoor ...

Where's our postcards?
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 31, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
Where's our postcards?

It's Dartmoor, take a picture of some grass and sheep and you're done...

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on August 31, 2016, 05:12:52 PM
It's Dartmoor, take a picture of some grass and sheep and you're done...

You are forgetting the mist and or low hanging clouds and the drizzle.  :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 31, 2016, 05:13:48 PM
You are forgetting the mist and or low hanging clouds and the drizzle.  :D

Photoshop  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on August 31, 2016, 09:45:26 PM
back to the 3d. How is the form one rolling along? Is it still having a moment now and then or did that get sorted?

Also with the zeps are you going to do that as a single print or split it front to back and do 2 halves?

Wel I didn't get round to taking close up pictures of the potential problem part for customer support before leaving, that's on the to-do list. However, I tweaked some of the finetuning settings a bit to get the last prints for Eureka done (more on that later folks) And I stumbled upon a sweet spot where all my problems, new and old, disappeared (for now at least). I haven't fired up the magic goo machine yet since I was supposed to help a friend to 4 weeks worth of silversmithing in 1.5 but that order fell trough yesterday.  :?

I hadn't fully decided on the zep yet since I don't have all the main shapes let alone details yet. Separate wings for sure. I might split it top bottom rather than front back actually, depending on how I end up doing stuff. However, if I manage to keep the bottom with large featureless curves at its lower points I might just print the main fuselage in one go.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on September 08, 2016, 06:31:24 PM
Tiny update on the knights. First two paint tests and the rest of the group "on the sprue" as it were. I'm happy with the design but considering re-printing these guys as recent finetuning might make them come out just a bit crisper still.

(http://i.imgur.com/XDXoEQB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FrfMzD9.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Jagannath on September 12, 2016, 08:53:10 AM
I've been looking forward to seeing these - they're great. Really capture the Knights perfectly.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 12, 2016, 09:42:21 AM
Shiny  :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: von Lucky on September 12, 2016, 10:41:01 PM
These look very good.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on October 05, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
I had a visit from a couple of old friend whose praise as very helpful in getting me going on this project again. While I'm going forwards with the airships please feel free to pepper me with any and all cool looking gun turrets and emplacement for ships. I want to follow Laputa's example where, in the close-up shots, pretty much every turret is different in construction.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: d phipps on October 05, 2016, 10:28:41 PM
Those tiny knights look great. I hope we get to see more of your prints.

Currently I'm trying to decide between the Form 2 and Autodesk's Ember. And you've just about sold be on the Form 3d printer for home use.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on October 05, 2016, 10:35:13 PM
Those tiny knights look great. I hope we get to see more of your prints.

Currently I'm trying to decide between the Form 2 and Autodesk's Ember. And you've just about sold be on the Form 3d printer for home use.

Thanks!

Be warned, it took me pretty much a year of pretty regular use to figure out the do and don't, lots of embarrassing failures along the way. I've started designing things with printability in mind from the get-go these days. Your recent cars for instance would be a horror to print. But when you account for all of that, it does deliver something amazing now and again.  :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: Fitz on October 06, 2016, 08:27:39 PM
Be warned, it took me pretty much a year of pretty regular use to figure out the do and don't, lots of embarrassing failures along the way. I've started designing things with printability in mind from the get-go these days. Your recent cars for instance would be a horror to print. But when you account for all of that, it does deliver something amazing now and again.  :D

My envy is immeasurable :)

Because I don't have access to a printer of my own, but get all mine done by Shapeways, I strongly suspect that I am not designing anywhere close to optimally for printing. However, until I win a lottery or something, Shapeways will just have to suck up the pain of dealing with my horrors :)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on October 08, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Because I don't have access to a printer of my own, but get all mine done by Shapeways, I strongly suspect that I am not designing anywhere close to optimally for printing. However, until I win a lottery or something, Shapeways will just have to suck up the pain of dealing with my horrors :)

Two weeks ago I met a guy who sells a shapeways printed 1/35 model kit of a ft17 I spend over a year optimizing the printing direction of each part on his sprues. Yes sprues, the set is easily as complicated as the highest end set I have ever seen. I was blown away by his work.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Renders galore!
Post by: YPU on December 19, 2016, 09:52:29 PM
I had a bit of a lul in printing work, waiting for a new bottle of resin to arrive. So I thought lets make a steam ferry. We have a oldschool ferry where I live and I would like a Miyazaki version for my board, and hey that would then be a good reason to FINALLY do those river and coastal terrain pieces I would do a tutorial on ages ago.

Long story short I have drawn and printed a Ghibli-esk seaplane. Not sure how that happened.  :` o_o

(http://i.imgur.com/9PZAJcZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Jp0QZVb.jpg)

No idea how the prints turned out, it was pretty dark when they birthed forth from the magic goop machine.  ::)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Seaplane page 10
Post by: YPU on December 20, 2016, 12:20:43 PM
Tail section needs a re-print, the rest was OK. Turns out I'm out of superglue though so I'm faffing about with epoxy glue, which generally is a bad idea.  ::)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Seaplane page 10
Post by: OSHIROmodels on December 20, 2016, 08:30:03 PM
That really fits the bill  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Seaplane page 10
Post by: N.C.S.E on December 24, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
I was concerned by the seaplane for a moment, then I saw the wings, which I just pure Ghibli from start to finish.  :)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. Seaplane page 10
Post by: YPU on December 27, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
I was concerned by the seaplane for a moment, then I saw the wings, which I just pure Ghibli from start to finish.  :)

Well, the main body is also heavily based on a design sketch by Miyazaki, its just a bit less out there than most of it. Probably something he did for porko rosso. But man it's fun adding flappy wings to more realistic airplanes, a bit like sticking googly eyes on object.  :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 16, 2017, 09:27:35 AM
I spend the weekend walking in our southernmost province with my parents, now everybody always says that region is more Germany than Netherlands and for building style this is very much true at least. The buildings and landscape were enough inspiration for me to actually build and paint a piece of terrain, I've also started printing some teeny tiny window arrangements which I will try moulding for resin casting for further buildings.

(http://i.imgur.com/f2B0iMa.jpg)

The size ratio top to bottom is a bit further out of wack then I had intended, but I can live with this slightly comical look.

(http://i.imgur.com/Fadz45C.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YonNJAM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Lm2LSaQ.jpg)


Some size comparisons.

(http://i.imgur.com/9ExpQA9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cVZ7CXz.jpg)


And some WIP shots for those curious

(http://i.imgur.com/sfRwP8B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dcO0TUE.jpg)


I also realised I have the first print of the seaplane with half a coat of primer lying around, that should be next on the list, along with a nice garden for this building I think.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: Jagannath on June 16, 2017, 12:14:43 PM
This is great - I was worried this project had died!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 16, 2017, 12:23:49 PM
This is great - I was worried this project had died!

It's always on my mind, but I REALLY need to put more focus on it. Especially that airship.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 22, 2017, 05:01:11 PM
Tiny house now has a tiny garden with orchard.

(http://i.imgur.com/yTj54Ef.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yTj54Ef.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pkhKr3b.jpg)

The trees ended up a bit lower than I was planning, and a bit more crowded but still on a tapletop view I think it looks fine. Adds some life to the table. Now I need to find some 6mm livestock to add to the small pen.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2017, 11:25:00 AM
Thanks mate!

I got a 1M by 2M grass mat from Lidl store, it's quite flat so it works nicely for 6mm I think!

(http://i.imgur.com/THvM2T7.jpg)

Also included my flappy seaplane, it can use a lot more paint but it was about time to actually show pictures of it "in the flesh"

(http://i.imgur.com/1rPjiWQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FsJTxhX.jpg)



More images in my Imgur album: http://imgur.com/a/AgM50
 (http://imgur.com/a/AgM50)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: MYNKD on June 29, 2017, 11:25:35 AM
Absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2017, 11:31:33 AM
Thanks!

Keen observers will have noticed I have bitten the bullet and painted the flag on the unit pale yellow and pink.
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 29, 2017, 11:59:26 AM
That looks rather bloody splendid  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: chantyam the 2nd on June 29, 2017, 12:04:58 PM
Great stuff I've been meaning to re-watch those films for ages...any further plans to add to the landscape may I suggest a few Windmills very in keeping with not only Miyazaki but I'm sure the Netherlands in general
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Post by: Jagannath on June 29, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
This looks great - I might go for a search for one of those mats, it looks great for 6mm - did you use another layer to make the fields? The flyer's great too - top stuff!
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Post by: YPU on June 29, 2017, 12:56:40 PM
Cheers gents!


This looks great - I might go for a search for one of those mats, it looks great for 6mm - did you use another layer to make the fields? The flyer's great too - top stuff!

Yeah, the fields are made from the tar-like material roofing shingles are made from, we call it roofing leather down here. It's a bit flexible which is good for large flat areas and has small stones on the other side that absolutely grip the grass mat so they don't move, very handy! the road is also made from the same material, its where I got the idea from a old architects of war tutorial on making roads.


Great stuff I've been meaning to re-watch those films for ages...any further plans to add to the landscape may I suggest a few Windmills very in keeping with not only Miyazaki but I'm sure the Netherlands in general

Definitely on the list, still debating what style I will end up going for. I'm mainly sticking to Howls moving castle style wise, which appears to be a blend of Tudor and Germanic buildings. I'm sure there is a windmill in the background there somewhere.
I have a Cricut cutting machine coming in so that should make buildings a lot easier and quicker to make, in this and any style really.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2017, 02:18:06 PM
wow! Dude you have been busy!

Hardly, 80% of the things in that picture are a year or more old. Just finally geting round to putting it together, or at least a coat of paint on it.
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Post by: von Lucky on June 29, 2017, 02:20:41 PM
Lovely stuff!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on June 29, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
looks amazing though.

Nothing better than realizing you have something cool you already made, just need to finish it.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on August 05, 2017, 05:17:39 PM
Welp, I fucked up some rivers I was working on for the better part of a month by making my modgepodge all bubbly. I swear got me down to the point where I didn't do anything miniatures for 2 weeks. I have nearly finished a new building by now, so that is nice. Pics soon I hope.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: DintheDin on August 05, 2017, 07:14:02 PM
I took notice of this thread too late, but I absorbed it as dry earth the new rain!
Now that most of your project has taken shape, it starts showing the beauty of your overall concept!  :-*
Don't let some little mishaps to dampen your mood! Spirits high and keep up the good job!
Eager to see the continuation!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on August 05, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
Thanks Din, I have to admit scrolling back through the topic also helps me recover some gusto for it.

I had a lovely bike ride through the countryside and the abundance of dragonflies inspired me to test my hand at some more organic sculpting for the "enemy" side of this project.

(http://i.imgur.com/xYtTILL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SKW0dL1.jpg)

I'm not convinced about the back ridge having its own sub ridges tbh, I might go back and change that.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on August 05, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
will they even show up in 6mm scale? Run a little micro test print to see the detail at that scale and then sculpt accordingly is my advice. It is what I did with Brett and his 6mm tanks etc for Ogre.

Probably not, but I feel I might want a 15mm version of this bugger.  :D
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on August 20, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
Small update, WIP on a large storehouse and building, I imagine this building standing close to a river. (my rivers, as mentioned, having completely failed...)

(http://i.imgur.com/gNfoz6S.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VNUUVEF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7J31pls.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: DintheDin on August 21, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
Very nice! Well done! Eager to see it painted!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: Vanvlak on August 21, 2017, 08:42:32 PM
Ditto, it's a nice little build  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on August 21, 2017, 09:02:29 PM
Thanks, guys! Couple of details to add still before I slap some paint on. I'm thinking red will do for this one.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: von Lucky on August 22, 2017, 10:18:24 AM
Cute!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on February 16, 2018, 11:44:52 AM
well, progress is minimal, but I'm still thinking of this project all the time.

(https://i.imgur.com/yxRipr9.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 16, 2018, 11:50:22 AM
Always good to see more on this  8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki fantasy project. farmhouse page 11
Post by: YPU on July 01, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
I do believe its time for my annual update of this topic I do believe.


The original design idea came from Eli Arnd, with some changes, cad and print by me of-course.
These guys will be know as the sky knights, the "knight" is the pilot while a "square" sits down in the ship as a loader and gunner for the anti tank cannon under the craft. The crafts themselves are nicknamed "geese" due to their shape.

(https://i.imgur.com/5JD5uyw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/U1vVYGo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xBiI1tm.jpg)

The final design came out a bit large compared to regular 1/300 ww1 aircraft, so I think I will do a second version shrunk about 25-30% and with the cockpit sunk down a bit more, so the pilot is in not on the plane but actually in.


As for the model itself the tail cone is separate so I'm planning to ad a translucent plastic propeller disk to the final model, but first some more updating to the shape here and there.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 02, 2018, 01:47:00 AM
Very good  8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 02, 2018, 10:40:16 AM
Very good  8)

Thanks man!

Chances are this guy and future models will actually see production some time in the future. Eli is very enthusiastic about working on more original designs like this with me so I'm looking forwards to that.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 02, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
Seeing them in production would be great  8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on July 02, 2018, 11:36:58 AM
Very Nice, saw Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind in the cinema yesterday which immediately made me want to do something in that style
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 02, 2018, 11:38:35 AM
Very Nice, saw Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind in the cinema yesterday which immediately made me want to do something in that style

I envy you, I've only caught Princess Kaguya on the big screen myself!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on July 02, 2018, 11:48:49 AM
They're doing a Ghibli retrospective this summer at the Kino in Rotterdam, they'll be showing 16 Ghibli films in total  :D
I probably wont see them all, but really want to try to see at least the earlier ones in the Cinema as I've never seen most of those on the big screen
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 02, 2018, 08:49:54 PM
They're doing a Ghibli retrospective this summer at the Kino in Rotterdam, they'll be showing 16 Ghibli films in total  :D
I probably wont see them all, but really want to try to see at least the earlier ones in the Cinema as I've never seen most of those on the big screen

wow really? That's pretty doable for me. I think I could even call it work expense on my taxes...  :-* I might see you there than!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 03, 2018, 02:54:28 PM
Had a burst of inspiration and put on a lick of paint. Those bloody aces with their bold bright coloured craft!

(https://i.imgur.com/tWQWmwT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NIwke68.jpg)

If you look close there is a radial engine in there!

(https://i.imgur.com/Rzinabe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XerGV6Y.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 03, 2018, 08:41:17 PM
Very cool, the red works well  8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 03, 2018, 08:46:10 PM
Very cool, the red works well  8)

I usually dread painting read, but the quick wash and drybrush I did before worked as a decent pre-shading for this one, I should try to remember that trick for the future.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: von Lucky on July 09, 2018, 10:49:44 AM
Yeah, it's come out really nicely.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: 6milPhil on July 09, 2018, 03:43:06 PM
Works well.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 09, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
Works well.
Yeah, it's come out really nicely.

Thanks chaps!

While I have the attention, any suggestions as to what rule set might work with this eccentric mix?
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: von Lucky on July 12, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Aeronef and Land Ironclads from Brigade Models/Wessex Games:
http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/

Will reflect the slow lumbering feel I have for these rather well, while X-Wing might be a little fast.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on July 14, 2018, 11:05:41 PM
I'm thinking I might actually end up writing a variant on command and colors style games for this. Having grid movement and relatively simple combat rules might help obfuscate the strange mix of technology levels and firepower. Between the rules for nearly all memoir '44 games being online for free as well  as www.commandsandcolors.net/ having many of the other games using the system online for free as well. I think that bashing the most appropriate rules together should do well.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: Captain Darling on July 15, 2018, 02:13:08 AM
Cool looking fighter plane!
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: von Lucky on August 07, 2018, 11:42:24 AM
That's a good idea re. rules - will also give you greater creative freedom.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on August 08, 2018, 03:39:27 PM
Cool looking fighter plane!

Thanks, I'm very happy with how it turned out!

That's a good idea re. rules - will also give you greater creative freedom.

Exactly, the more abstracted the rules the more I can get away with. Of course, I now need 6mm table with large hexes, I might do differently coloured patches of grass on my board in roughly hex shapes, but I need to figure out a size that will also fit my existing rivers(which are on a hex system, just not a size that fits this idea...)

I'm Thinking I can avoid the whole specialized dice thing simply with a to hit number. For instance, if infantry would be destroyed it is a 5+ to hit, and 1's would force retreats. I could easily rig up stat cards for each unit type, and could much easier break units down within a type as well, for instance, both blocks of riflemen and skirmishers could count as infantry for activations. (Makes sense right?) I would need to build a custom activation deck though but that's fine.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: Dr Mathias on August 12, 2018, 05:18:34 PM
Very cool, the Swordfish II from Bebop is one of my favorite spacecraft and this is a great re-imagining.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on October 17, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
Oh! completely forgot to post this here as well

(https://i.imgur.com/4ewpY5G.jpg)

A slightly more original tank, a bit smaller than the first one, though still definitely heavy if not super heavy. I've just returned from holiday and am looking forward to finishing this bad boy and printing it.

Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 17, 2018, 08:59:35 PM
Yes, I like that  8)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on November 01, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
I've been experimenting with a different resin and upscaling some 6mm stuff to 15/18mm. it's a bit lacking in details, but not as much as I had feared.

(https://i.imgur.com/ygPznO2.jpg)

I'm looking at making a 1/100 sized version of the fighter now, since that one was quite popular. Lots of work to re-do though due to panel lines etc not looking great scalped of times 3.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 01, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Detail looks fine. Maybe a little soft in places but when they are painted it won’t matter  :)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: von Lucky on November 03, 2018, 06:38:46 AM
I agree - also doing organic stuff (the cape) in 3D modelling is impressive.
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Bike WIP page 12.
Post by: YPU on April 23, 2019, 03:20:04 PM
It's been a long time since I updated here, but this project is still moving ahead full steam/diesel power!  :D
In fact, most of the things I've posted here are now in hands of Microworld miniatures with more on their way.
Currently, I'm working on an APC and variants based on some sketches by a co-conspirator which should turn out really nicely, but those aren't far along enough yet to show.

I do however have the first look at a tracked bike for this chubby tank force.

(https://i.imgur.com/hPL8nJ8.png)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: 6milPhil on April 23, 2019, 10:17:13 PM
Brill!  ;)
Title: Re: 6mm miyazaki VSF. Fightercraft p.12
Post by: YPU on April 27, 2019, 12:51:56 PM
Brill!  ;)

Thanks mate! it's just one of those real-world vehicles too good not to use in fiction, right?