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Title: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff shield gate added
Post by: AKULA on October 05, 2016, 10:03:22 PM
I haven't really had much time to do anything hobby-related so far this year, but I wanted to get back in the groove, hence this new thread.

I've wanted to build a fleet of Star Wars ships for some time now, and was really impressed with the scratch built 1/1000th ships on here, but they are a little too large scale for what I had in mind - I'd like to build a fleet of capital ships, and so I've opted for the slightly smaller 1/2256 scale.

This might seem like an odd scale, but it is fast becoming a fertile source of garage kits - it is also the scale of the Revell Venator kit (now unfortunately OOP but still available on fleabay for increasingly silly prices).

I've added in for scale purposes a Falcon, blockade runner and transport vessel (all 3 were made by Anigram, once upon a time)- fighters are tiny, but there are people on shapeways that make them.

My little project will be set just after the Battle of Endor, in some backwater system - the local Imperial Governor will have access to a real mix of old and "current" vessels. For example, I see no reason why the Empire wouldn't still have aging Venators kicking around somewhere (think how many modern navies have ships that are 25 years old, or more), and I'm sure some will have fallen into the hands of the rebels....

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsgjh9rzmn.jpeg)



Odyssey Slipways have also been a good source of smaller craft - they made the light republic cruiser, and the tiny LAAT in this photo - I've also added an x-wing and tie interceptor, along with the Anigram vessels.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsxhonoixn.jpeg)

That's everything for now - will add more as I go.

 :)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: aliensurfer on October 05, 2016, 10:06:41 PM
I can't wait to see how this unfolds. Nice to see you back mate btw.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Brummie on October 06, 2016, 09:13:19 AM
Blimey thats one awesome looking Venator! Will be keeping an eye on this as well!   :-*
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: YPU on October 06, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
I'll admit I'm a bit blown away by how cool those all look in correct scale together!
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Giger on October 06, 2016, 11:03:42 AM
I always enjoy following your projects and it looks to be the same for this one, love a bit of Star Wars.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Damas on October 06, 2016, 11:05:26 AM
Oooh, now watching!
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 06, 2016, 04:51:24 PM
Oooh, now watching!

Me too  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 06, 2016, 10:37:27 PM
Tonight's offering is a Quasar Fire class bulk carrier - a tidy little kit cast up by JPG Productions, just needed a couple of tiny bits of filling.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zps5u5ikdud.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsyqvwtswm.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zps3vvd9goq.jpeg)

And the obligatory group shot....
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsem7qwks6.jpeg)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: anevilgiraffe on October 07, 2016, 12:26:38 PM
looks nice mate, I still have my list of what's available in different scales if you want.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 07, 2016, 06:35:47 PM
looks nice mate, I still have my list of what's available in different scales if you want.

Cheers Chris - I think your list will need a bit of updating, I have been scouring the planet for kits for a while now  :D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 07, 2016, 10:06:16 PM
Three days .... three models .... a new record for me. 

Actually, three more models than I've made in the rest of the year.  I doubt I can keep this pace up, not least because the shopkeeper in the village is getting suspicious about my usage of such a large quantity of superglue.

An Acclamator class vessel, which would have been obsolete by the time of my ficitious campaign but I will find a way to incorporate it, because I like it!

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpshpld2utf.jpeg)

This kit is another JPG Production casting - which is currently back in production on a very limited run - look for JPG Production on farcebook or try the Starship Modeller store.

...and of course, the group shot of the fast developing fleet....

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsvciagn4w.jpeg)



Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: aliensurfer on October 08, 2016, 08:25:09 PM
'My little project will be set just after the Battle of Endor, in some backwater system' - influenced by The Truce at Bakura perhaps?
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Marine0846 on October 09, 2016, 05:02:42 AM
Your ships are so cool.
Love them.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 09, 2016, 08:47:36 PM
Last model for a few days - a Victory class Star Destroyer.

This one took a bit of filling with green stuff, but was well worth the extra effort - was making pew pew noises with it by the time it was finished.


(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsobe6damn.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsfnkvcmpk.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsf4ytjuxp.jpeg)



'My little project will be set just after the Battle of Endor, in some backwater system' - influenced by The Truce at Bakura perhaps?

Not quite - no lizards  :)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Ajsalium on October 09, 2016, 10:09:12 PM
My little project will be set just after the Battle of Endor, in some backwater system.

Liar. ;)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 11, 2016, 09:08:56 AM
I'm not sure I'm ready yet to build the big one.....


(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsqebsb8fx.jpeg)

The Anigrand Avenger class is over 70cm long.....

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zps0xbbnf0p.jpeg)

Think I'll build some smaller stuff first....
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Michi on October 11, 2016, 09:15:03 AM
I'm not sure I'm ready yet to build the big one.....[/img]

Think I'll build some smaller stuff first....

[size=3
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Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: huesped on October 13, 2016, 10:26:52 PM
hmmmmm that anigrand stufff... :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 15, 2016, 08:51:06 PM
A Tartan class patrol cruiser - another Nic Sagan model, very quick to build, just needed the engines adding, primed up, ready to paint.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsv2zcvy76.jpeg)


It looks sufficiently menacing if you are a rebel running the blockade.....

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpswymob5j8.jpeg)


Have got this one to build next, an Anigrand Neb.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsuhrmfakh.jpeg)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 15, 2016, 09:03:26 PM
It's awfully tempting to do this scale as well  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 15, 2016, 09:05:16 PM
It's awfully tempting to do this scale as well  lol

cheers

James

Here we go again..... ;)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 15, 2016, 09:08:05 PM
Here we go again..... ;)

I never said I would  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: fastolfrus on October 15, 2016, 09:19:48 PM
Had a friend who built a star destroyer as an art project (back in 1997, so not sure if I can find the pictures). Not sure about the scale, but he used Pringle tubes for the engines, so it came in at about 2½ metres long. Looked like some kind of surrealist surfboard.
He made a wall mounted flying stand for when he wasn't gaming with it.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 15, 2016, 10:39:42 PM
It's awfully tempting to do this scale as well

Go on, you know you want to!

 :D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: YPU on October 16, 2016, 11:31:28 AM
I get a lot more joy from seeing these pictures of unbuild unpainted ship models then I should. There is something immensely satisfying having all that in scale next to each other, especially with the falcon and other well-known ships in there.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 16, 2016, 11:34:04 AM
Go on, you know you want to!

 :D

I know I want to as well  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Damas on October 16, 2016, 11:42:54 AM
Oi, get back to the one true scale, Bibbly-san.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 16, 2016, 02:16:40 PM
I know I want to as well  lol

cheers

James

It's ok, I will do my best to push you over the edge.....

Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: YPU on October 21, 2016, 02:50:12 PM
Zvezda just started announcing they are doing a star destroyer. By my untrained eye it looks like an imperial II class, but I could well be wrong. Size is "60cm" according to Zvezda so that would put it at 1/2666 but who knows.

Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 21, 2016, 03:30:43 PM
I just saw that as well. Seems like 'box scale' to me  :?

Good to see more kits coming out though  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: YPU on October 21, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
I just saw that as well. Seems like 'box scale' to me  :?


Considering they are willing to share the size and not the scale you might well be right. :? But like you say, always nice to see more kits, Zvezda stuff tends to be cheap with ok quality in my experience (even their licenced stuff) and this would be one heck of kit, even just to have up on a shelve. Or you know, go crazy break it into pieces and use those a terrain for some other game. at 60cm you should be able to make enough chunks for a decent table.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 21, 2016, 03:48:45 PM
Yeah  :D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 22, 2016, 07:09:43 PM
A new addition arrived in this morning's post.

A printed Immobiliser

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpstesppns8.jpeg)

Plus I've built and painted a first Nebulon frigate...more to follow!

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsv829fsdq.jpeg)

Having all the models in scale with one another really does illustrate the point, if it was needed, that Nebs really wouldn't stand a chance against a star destroyer. I'm envisaging that frigate-sized vessels would operate in a similar fashion to modern frigate, ie screening the capital ships from fighters/bombers, and slugging it out with the other sides frigates....

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zps6e9jocek.jpeg)

Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: huesped on October 23, 2016, 09:53:04 PM
really nice update, mate!, your project is awaking on me a re newed interest ( 'bout an alternative to Armada) ;)
lot of beautifull models there! congrats for the paint work!!!!
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Giger on October 25, 2016, 12:30:21 PM
Nice to see the Neb painted up, the size of some of these is quite something.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: tomrommel1 on October 26, 2016, 09:15:01 AM
The ships are really nice indeed!!!! Any chance you could tell us the internet links you got them from?
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 26, 2016, 09:55:24 AM
The ships are really nice indeed!!!! Any chance you could tell us the internet links you got them from?

Most are available from the Starship Modeller store....now and again....they tend to go in/out of stock pretty quickly.  JPG Castings are on Facebook.  The Anigrand kits are OOP but appear on fleabay....now and again.... The Immobiliser is printed by a guy in Russia, who sells them on fleabay - just search immobiliser and you will find him - he does a whole load of kits for other genre including Stargate.

Basically, these have been collected over the last couple of years of patiently trawling the web - unfortunately, due to the nature of garage kits they tend to appear/disappear frequently.

www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm

Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: tomrommel1 on October 27, 2016, 10:56:04 AM
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on October 27, 2016, 11:16:51 AM
Thanks for the info!

Sorry I couldn't just give everyone a shopping list of links for Christmas - starship modeller are  pretty good, but it takes a bit of persistence to find some of the rarer items.

Part of the fun for me is in the hunt, although I'm pretty sure my OCD is getting worse....I find myself logging onto eBay at all hours of the night just in case someone has decided to flog some OOP kit.... :D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on January 01, 2017, 09:36:52 PM
First few Imperial ships painted up, an ageing Venator (part of a reserve formation), a Tartan Patrol vessel, an Immobiliser, and the obligatory tie fighters.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpshibtqu2g.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zps2uoqtfmf.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpseynlbhg9.jpeg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/image_zpsdwhjgko8.jpeg)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Giger on January 03, 2017, 11:55:16 AM
Glorious, love the scale on these.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 03, 2017, 12:22:33 PM
It is tempting to go for this scale as well as 1000  o_o lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on January 03, 2017, 12:23:40 PM
It is tempting to go for this scale as well as 1000  o_o lol

cheers

James

Go on....give in to the tiny voices in your head  :D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Damas on January 03, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
It is tempting to go for this scale as well as 1000  o_o lol

Wait, you do 1/1000 as well!?!  ;D

Lovely paint scheme on the Neb B Akula!
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on January 03, 2017, 10:02:47 PM
Lovely paint scheme on the Neb B Akula!

Thanks mate. Funnily enough, I considered repainting it this weekend because I wasn't happy with it....

....at this rate I will never get this lot in a game.

 ;D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: steders on January 06, 2017, 04:20:34 PM
Great looking stuff Akky. I think the Republic star destroyer is getting a rerelease, its on Revells website as new.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on January 06, 2017, 11:49:13 PM
Great looking stuff Akky. I think the Republic star destroyer is getting a rerelease, its on Revells website as new.

Cheers mate.  Saw the rerelease of the Venator, won't be buying anymore though, as I already have a number of them to build....I seem to have been buying them in my sleep recently   :?
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on January 28, 2017, 03:46:44 PM
My little project for the Build Something Contest (the Scariff Shield Gate from Rogue One) is approaching completion, so I'm beginning to think about the next stage of my wider Star Wars fleet project.  

I've got a number of the Revell Venators to build, but rather than just churn out a bunch of identical models, I fancy having a couple of conversions....

My plan is to open up the hangar bay doors on at least one, and I also want to produce a command ship.

Additionally, I've just taken pity on a battered old MPC star destroyer kit - it was poorly finished, and looking a bit sorry for itself, so I'm toying with the idea of converting it into another Victory-class - at 15" long it's ideal (the brand new Revell click together kits are a little long for this, plus the depth of the trench on the new models are too narrow).

Will see how much work it needs when it arrives, sometime next month.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on January 29, 2017, 10:21:18 PM
Had a bit more time than I thought today, so made some more progress...

First up, I built a second "standard" model Venator, and undercoated it.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Scariff%20Shield/IMG_1028_zps6atayqqk.jpg)

Next, I partially built another one....and then cut it in half.

I've loosely boxed the gap with foamboard...I might rip this out and start again....and then clad the sides with a couple of spare hangar bays.  Sitting on top of the white section is a clear resin piece (not the best photo) which is a spare left over from the Acclamator model - it's not glued down, but I'm thinking it could serve as an extra Fleet Command Bridge .... there is no reason why this should be necessary, other than I think it will look cool.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Scariff%20Shield/IMG_1029_zpsokghggjg.jpg)

More on the Scariff Shield Gate build (which is in scale with the rest of my project) here http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=96712.0

Will progress more with the Venators, once the shield gate is finished.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Michka on January 30, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Oh look. It's another fantastic project from AKULA, and it's Star Wars. Let me grab my popcorn, sit back and enjoy the show. This is gonna be amazing! Hell, it already is.
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Giger on January 30, 2017, 09:25:14 AM
Love the updates in this thread (which I firmly blame for me buying Star Wars Armada now)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on February 01, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
Started on a (fourth) Venator....have cut the hangar bay doors off, and then reattached them in the open position, will need a bit of tidying up. Have boxed out the hangar section as well, not planning on building a full working hangar, but may give the impression of one.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Blog/Star%20Wars/IMG_1037_zpsoiye9icq.jpg)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Damas on February 01, 2017, 06:44:23 PM
Have boxed out the hangar section as well, not now planning on building a fully lit working hangar...

Fixed that for you Akula!
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: AKULA on February 02, 2017, 09:25:52 AM
Some new arrivals courtesy of Shapeways - these are from Mel Miniatures, that produces Armada sized ships.  Have been scouring through their line, and the following are broadly in scale with my 1/2256 project (give or take a max of c10% by my reckoning).

Have put alongside an Anigrand Blockade Runner for scale purposes

Some merchant vessels and especially for Damas....a Hammerhead Corvette....no lights though

 ;)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Blog/Star%20Wars/IMG_1039_zpsonmyp4mm.jpg)
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project
Post by: Damas on February 02, 2017, 01:10:02 PM
 ;) :D
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project - ISD Conversion
Post by: AKULA on February 18, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
The old 1/4222 scale Star Destroyer kit has arrived in the post - at only 15" long it's too small to be used as an Imperial class SD, but by a stroke of luck it's ideal to convert into a Victory class Star Destroyer in 1/2256 - shown here alongside my existing Victory class.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Blog/Star%20Wars/IMG_1145_zpsocl5qp9w.jpg)

It needs some real TLC....filling, stripping down and a bit of conversion work, but the basic shape is perfect.  Apart from fitting the gun wings, it needs the hangar bay boxing in, and a bit of work turning it from 3 engines, into 2.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Blog/Star%20Wars/IMG_1151_zpsgynzsbdi.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Blog/Star%20Wars/IMG_1152_zpssvdmpbpj.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Blog/Star%20Wars/IMG_1153_zpsucli6o83.jpg)

I might pickup one of the new Revell ISD, which I believe is slightly larger....near 16" - it's much better detailed, and even has lighting, but it looks like the trench is v.narrow - again, another possible conversion project.

Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project - ISD Conversion
Post by: huesped on February 19, 2017, 10:07:48 PM
Again; awesome project Aki. It's amazing! :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: AKULA's 1/2256 scale Star Wars Project - ISD Conversion
Post by: AKULA on February 19, 2017, 10:53:56 PM
Thanks mate - I'd love to post a group shot with the Shield Gate, but obviously can't until the Build Something Contest is over

 ;)
Title: Re: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff Shield gate
Post by: AKULA on March 13, 2017, 06:32:14 PM
Now I'm out of the Build Something Contest, at least I can add the shield gate to my Star Wars thread - it's over 80cm across from pylon to pylon.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Scariff%20Shield/455b689f-1f13-493d-b37b-5bf9e84aac9e_zpsdqq3xhwl.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/Scariff%20Shield/IMG_1110_zpsn76ypak4.jpg)

More photos of how I built it, can be found on the following thread:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=96712.0
Title: Re: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff shield gate added
Post by: Giger on March 14, 2017, 09:15:46 AM
Mighty impressive  :o
Title: Re: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff shield gate added
Post by: huesped on March 15, 2017, 09:07:48 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o -NO WORDS-
Title: Re: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff shield gate added
Post by: Suber on March 15, 2017, 11:57:54 PM
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o -NO WORDS-

I second his words. His not-words. Whatever.
 :-*
Title: Re: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff shield gate added
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 16, 2017, 08:37:09 PM
Mad excess as ever Matt. Looks awesome though. Good job. 😆
Title: Re: AKULA's Star Wars Fleet Battles - Scariff shield gate added
Post by: aliensurfer on March 16, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
You crazy mad bar steward you! Love it. PS - glad to see Arsenal doing so well.......  ;)