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Miniatures Adventure => Weird Wars => Topic started by: Ballardian on October 15, 2016, 06:24:49 PM
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I recently came across a new site (paperpanzer.com) that looks like it may become a useful source for vehicles/conversion parts - they seem to be about to start with standard scale model bits (1/72 & 1/35) but also mention an intention to do 1/48 as well (many peoples gaming scale of choice).
I plan on requesting they look at 1/56 (got to be worth a punt) as the products are pretty good - here's a rather lovely converted RSO which should give a hint of the quality.
Clockwork Goblin have also previewed some new K'47 stuff Soviet werebears, Daughters of the Motherland & some really nice German Paras/jump troops.
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the paras are lovely
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the paras are lovely
I just hope that they fit with the Bolt Action plastics, since their metal figures are bigger :'(
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I just hope that they fit with the Bolt Action plastics, since their metal figures are bigger :'(
What makes you say that ?
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What makes you say that ?
By comparing the Samuel figure with the "normal" GIs
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/predatorpt/SOTR/005_zpsukg1gf6u.jpg)
Ok, the guy is supposed to be a "Paragon" (sorf of a super-soldier) so they say he's bigger because of that. But even their zombies and Heavy Infantry are bigger than the "normal" figures that Warlord bundles with the starter sets. I guess it's because the Weird War units are made by Clockwork.
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I seriously want those Soviet Bears.
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Samuels is a 'Paragon' - US Super Soldier, so is larger than life. All the other Konflict 47 miniatures have been appropriately scaled to Warlords current ranges.
So, you should be in luck with the Para's.
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Ballardian - just sent them a message, asking for 1/56 goodies. Maybe if we get enough people we can convince them of the benefits of having a 1/56 range ;)
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Paras look awesome
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Predatorpt - thanks for adding your plea to my own, I did recieve a reply to my request;
"I feel your pain, but running the 1/35 line is already challenging as it is. All of the E items (except the idler) have been scratchbuilt so that would mean recreating them in 1/56, a scale I am totally not familiar with. If you have the skills or know people who have the skills I wouldn't mind getting a selection of these models out there. I would need a solid partner with a profound knowledge of that branch of the hobby in such a case. So many projects, so little time, the etnernal struggle I'm afraid. :-)"
So he's not against the idea, but as a small business he's not currently equiped to tackle what's for him a new scale. So, if anyone reading this does have the necessary skills in making masters/casting why not get in contact with him - letting manufacturers know there's a market out there is the only way we're going to get these subjects in 1/56 - after all, don't we want someone to make this stuff for us? (Apologies to Jeff at JTFM, I know your After 45 stuff is coming & that me whining doesn't make it go any faster :))
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Well there's always CompanyB as well, but I'm not sure if they want the stress. :?
I had seen that larger stuff and wanted some myself, though in the timescale its (somehow) easier to scratch build it myself.
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Predatorpt - thanks for adding your plea to my own, I did recieve a reply to my request;
"I feel your pain, but running the 1/35 line is already challenging as it is. All of the E items (except the idler) have been scratchbuilt so that would mean recreating them in 1/56, a scale I am totally not familiar with. If you have the skills or know people who have the skills I wouldn't mind getting a selection of these models out there. I would need a solid partner with a profound knowledge of that branch of the hobby in such a case. So many projects, so little time, the etnernal struggle I'm afraid. :-)"
So he's not against the idea, but as a small business he's not currently equiped to tackle what's for him a new scale. So, if anyone reading this does have the necessary skills in making masters/casting why not get in contact with him - letting manufacturers know there's a market out there is the only way we're going to get these subjects in 1/56 - after all, don't we want someone to make this stuff for us? (Apologies to Jeff at JTFM, I know your After 45 stuff is coming & that me whining doesn't make it go any faster :))
I'm mastering some of the vehicles (slowly) in 1/56 for Jeff - The Tortoise, Boarhound and Terrapin are mine.
I know he's also working on the E-series stuff and some others too.
T-28/T-95 is next from me:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20161016_223602_zps14eugwa7.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161016_223602_zps14eugwa7.jpg.html)
Quality inspector Reid points out any faults.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20161016_185506_zpsgk8wucsl.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161016_185506_zpsgk8wucsl.jpg.html)
(Wonkey track fixed!)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20161016_185458_zpsmrjs6noy.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161016_185458_zpsmrjs6noy.jpg.html)
But real life keeps getting in the way - too many projects but not enough project time.
I also keep getting distracted with my own projects (Just ordered 3 Churchills and a load of Desert Rats for King Force).
Scammell Pioneer appears to have lodged in my brain so that will have to happen too...
My 'to do' list:
T28/T-95 (Big, slow, 12" armour, armour penetration of >14")
Scammell Pioneer (Because!)
Centurion (MkII probably 20 pdr)
My 'what next' list:
IS-7 (6MGs, 1 HMG and a huge gun?)
My 'maybe never' list:
Conqueror (Because who doesn't like hassive guns?)
Deacon (I've built AEC Matadors so this is realatvely easy)
Dorchester (As above)
Always open to suggestions....
My previous efforts are mostly here:
http://warlordgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10505
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Hi Rich,
I'm mastering some of the vehicles (slowly) in 1/56 for Jeff
I've seen the stuff you've done for JTFM (been following their progress via this & the WG forums) & they look great (I'll be finding shelf space for the Tortoise). Now if we can just clone a couple more of you we can solve all our vehicle availability problems!
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Thanks! Not sure about cloning though! :o
Suggestions for projects are greatly appreciated but i tent to stay in the real (ish) and away from the weird! Mostly because I lack the creative imagination needed!
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I appreciate your work, Rich and I will buy some of the vehicles for sure (just ordered my first JTFM model last week).
But I think that the European gaming market would benefit if a European company started doing more of these vehicles, due to the massive taxing that the Customs/postal service across the EU like to apply on parcels coming from outside the said EU :(
I just hope that the rumours that Warlord will release some "Weird War/Paper Panzers" is true.
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I'm in Lancashire ;)
I offered Warlord some of my masters - apparently interested but never took me up on them.
Then they approached me to master a Locust said they would get back to me.... I built the hull on spec but heard nothing since so I gave up on them.
I build for Jeff at the moment but I'm mercenary...
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OK, not for sale, but Claymore's started another Weird War German vehicle:
(http://i.imgur.com/5YadwrB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/VRWOf5l.jpg)
Um, just an FYI. ...I may have already bought my own Puma. ::)
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Looks good!
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I'm in Lancashire ;)
I offered Warlord some of my masters - apparently interested but never took me up on them.
Then they approached me to master a Locust said they would get back to me.... I built the hull on spec but heard nothing since so I gave up on them.
I build for Jeff at the moment but I'm mercenary...
Sorry to hear about those Warlord problems :\ That isn't a good way to work.
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I get the impression, possibly unfairly, that the front of house and the studio aren't particularly joined up. I've had loads of enthusiasm from the FoH and sevetal free bits and pieces but not even a:
Dear Rich H, get stuffed , love the Studio
But hey I'm mercenary!
If you want something building let me know and we can discuss. Just remember I do this in my spare time so timescales are variable!
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I get the impression, possibly unfairly, that the front of house and the studio aren't particularly joined up. I've had loads of enthusiasm from the FoH and sevetal free bits and pieces but not even a:
But hey I'm mercenary!
If you want something building let me know and we can discuss. Just remember I do this in my spare time so timescales are variable!
Hmmm, now that you mention it, maybe I have. I'll drop you a PM when I leave work (a little bit after midnight lol)
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;)
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CG/WG have just put up the renders for their first PTO mini, an IJA man in heavy armour;
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Oh, those are grand!
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WG/CG have released another render of a unit for K47, a robotic support unit for the Brits - I have to admit that this is one of their sculpts I'm not really convinced by (I prefer the numerous conversions based on universal carriers) - but it's mini I'm not fond of rather than the concept of more automated units - any thoughts?
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Other than the head it has nothing to tie it to the brits k47 units and nothing to tie it to real units apart from the tin hat!
Use an existing outdated hull and gun: Crusader, Valentine or Matilda perhaps? Add an iconic gun like a 2pdr, 25pdr, 6pdr or 75mm perhaps?
The galahads were plausible - iconic guns and nice sculpts but these things are just random which is a great shame.
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Warlord are making a Maus to come out alongside the Battle of the Bulge book. :D
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15590161_10210483033699761_4217239096631355954_n.jpg?oh=431dd7e6eb1a1b01778e1e5aba766517&oe=58E85581)
Just need to see what the price is like and how it compares to what's already on the market.
...I'm totally buying one. I'd be in for the Winter Germans alone, but even though I don't *need* (bah!) a Maus, well... Hmn, I suppose it could do for an E-100 too. :)
Course, it could always be a fake. :'(
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Looks like we could be due an infestation of mice, between the Blitzkreig, Heer46, JTFM & now WG (if they can get it sub £50 - the price of the Blitzkreig one - they could have a winner - I did notice that the co-axial 75mm appears to bo the wrong side though - could be explainable if the mantlet is a seperate piece - it's not on the Blitzkreig one - & put on the wrong way up).
In other news WestWind have teased a pic of one of their new mechs (a German one). I wasn't sure about it when I saw the concept art, but in the flesh it looks good if a little Macross-y (big suit holding a gun rather than it bein built in).
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Looks like we could be due an infestation of mice, between the Blitzkreig, Heer46, JTFM & now WG (if they can get it sub £50 - the price of the Blitzkreig one - they could have a winner - I did notice that the co-axial 75mm appears to bo the wrong side though - could be explainable if the mantlet is a seperate piece - it's not on the Blitzkreig one - & put on the wrong way up).
In other news WestWind have teased a pic of one of their new mechs (a German one). I wasn't sure about it when I saw the concept art, but in the flesh it looks good if a little Macross-y (big suit holding a gun rather than it bein built in).
I really like it.
The gun concept is a change over the norm for the "period." Anyou mention of the calibre of that canon?
Only peeve I have at the moment is the feet. Seem too "stubby" for me. Need to be a bit longErie, for dupport.
Grimm
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Merry Christmas to all!
Grimmnar, I think the feet might have some additional pieces not in the picture, there's a notch under the semi circular piece on the foot's side & a gap ap the front that seems to imply something goes there. As to the gun's size, I imagine it'll count as heavy AT in Secrets.
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Couple more mechs, one a WestWind design (for, I assume a US mech, though I would have thought it should be 'Tecumseh' rather than 'Tecumesh') & the second a Dust model (I like this one & should look good once the oversized pilot model is exchanged for something a little more 28mm, plus the quad flak & flamethrower combo on a jump capable mech would just be rude in SotTR).
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Some small (but useful) stuff today, a bunch of helmeted/masked heads from the K'47 range - useful for all weird war fans (or if you're just trying to avoid painting faces).
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£6 for 5 seems a bit excessive. Regardless I'll pickup a sprue, but I'd have expected twice as many heads for that price (I assume its down to Clockwork Goblin being a third party).
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Yes, it is a little beyond cheeky seeing as you'd get thirty for that price from WestWind - however they are quite nice so I suppose I'll also be picking some up.
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Looks like CG/WG have got their Russian were-bears, FJ jumptroops & hmg toting British robots out finally. The FJ's are rather gorgeous & the were-bears happily look even better than the earlier renders.
There's also a pic that captures WW's new German Mech from the front plus a bunch of Bowler - hatted special troops (perhaps they're Decima like Mr Smyth).
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Love the SOTR mech, way better than the K47 offerings, lol.
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Now let's see how difficult those jetpacks are to remove. Hopefully they're separate :` like the Heavy Infantry.
I'll wait till Warlord's Maus is out until dropping the cash though (which I'd imagine will be out this month). £25 is a tad steep, but is par the course now for Clockwork Goblin's stuff (conversely 8 Soviet veterans are £15, though with an entirely different sculpting style. ...I'm kind of considering picking those up for some Weird Soviets).
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Ive been waiting for ages for the SOTR II figures to come out, including the new mech. Then a pic pops up on this thread of one 'in action'.
Does anyone know if they are available somewhere to buy?
Regards
Wolt
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Have to admit, those Soviet bear troopers from K47 do appeal to me. Like them much better than the SotR sculpt and there's more variety to boot. Be good for superhero gaming too, which is nice.
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Oh those bears!
Were Bear? There bear!
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WG/CG have released another render of a unit for K47, a robotic support unit for the Brits - I have to admit that this is one of their sculpts I'm not really convinced by (I prefer the numerous conversions based on universal carriers) - but it's mini I'm not fond of rather than the concept of more automated units - any thoughts?
I have to agree that this is not a good look.
I would have preferred something like the Preying Mantis:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ib4bCzO3_EQ/WGObyDUmSHI/AAAAAAAABtA/mJOw8XONRvYj6cqSV7mpBIshrPCW52I6QCLcB/s1600/IMG_5159.JPG)
More photographs here http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/praying-mantis-real-weird-war-two.html (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/praying-mantis-real-weird-war-two.html)
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Have to admit, those Soviet bear troopers from K47 do appeal to me.
Yes, they do hit a spot just right don't they? One screams to have a mini gun added like in that new Russian superhero movie.
I also like the K47 Lycan wolves as well.
Grimm
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Wolivant - those new SoTR minis aren't yet available, it seems they're still tidying up after their various EotD & 6mm ancients KS's - but they're supposedly next in line for some love.
UVS - lol, the Mantis is one of those hilarious 'what were they thinking' moments (I think it would be fair to say it's usefulness would be limited), but yes, it still looks better than the proposed mini. (Quite a few people have in fact used Uni carriers as the basis of Automated units.)
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I have to agree that this is not a good look.
I would have preferred something like the Preying Mantis:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ib4bCzO3_EQ/WGObyDUmSHI/AAAAAAAABtA/mJOw8XONRvYj6cqSV7mpBIshrPCW52I6QCLcB/s1600/IMG_5159.JPG)
More photographs here http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/praying-mantis-real-weird-war-two.html (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/praying-mantis-real-weird-war-two.html)
Got a half built one I need to finish...
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I'd love to see it, when your packed scedule allows - incidentally, hows the Centurion coming along (in the last pic I saw the hull & running gear looked complete - & excellent by the way)?
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Cheers Ballardian, looking forward to those...
Wolt
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The Warlord Maus has already sold out (something that I find ridiculous - why announce with a big fanfare that it's going to be a "Limited Initial Release!" when your company usually does "Made to Order" resin vehicles? How much stock do you have for the release? 5? 10?) so I have no idea about its price.
https://store.warlordgames.com/products/panzer-viii-maus-super-heavy-tank
But the rules are there, so I'll just use the Blitzkrieg Maus...
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And to finish my rant about the Maus - I've received their newsletter at 13:14 - went to the site at 13:19. In 5 minutes they had sold their stock...I guess it was just 5 tanks ;D
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Got a half built one I need to finish...
To echo Ballardian, looking forward to seeing it.
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Did anyone see the price of the maus?
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Did anyone see the price of the maus?
According to the Bolt Action FB page, it cost £50. And there were only 30 available...
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Looking at the pics of the WG Maus, I can't see any significant difference to the Blitzkrieg one (including price - both £50 in 1/56, though Blitzkrieg also do one in 1/48 for £60).
From what I could see;
The turret defense/pistol ports look a little deeper in the WG model
The shell loading/empty case disposal hatch on the rear of the turret has slightly more detail on the WG model (though bear iin mind that the hatch would have had little detail on it in reality).
The bolt detail on the mantlet looks a little more pronounced on the WG model.
I can't really see if the track plate detail is any different on the WG model, though Blitzkrieg's one handles that fine.
So not much different in real terms, if you're after a Maus I think you'd probably be happy with either - WG's one is now made to order (& I don't know how long you'd have to wait for one) while Blitzkrieg's is (I think) in stock - so you pays your money...
I know that the Blitzkrieg one needed very little in the way of clean-up, a little around the running gear & some slightly visible scan lines from the printed master were still visible on the rear fuel drum, but other than that it was a very clean casting (I suppose it's a failrly simple shape) & went together very well (I suppose I'd better finish mine now I've stuck my oar in ;)).
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I've been wanting a Maus for the sake of having one for a while, but not had much justification. The plan's been to wait on Blitzkrieg eventually coming out with their T-54 (which finally has a release date of February) to pick up.
The Maus is a bit of an odd one. It suits a pulp setting, but if you're going for something a bit more realistic its out of place. Not just the practicality of it, but that the E-100 was already penned in as its successor before it was even built (IIRC the British had a low opinion of the half built E-100 they found).
I was actually thinking of buying a random 1/35th Tiger II or something, replacing must of the hull with a plasticard one, and using that as a fictional German super heavy for my own stuff. I'm not sure how that'd work out though.
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I've been wanting a Maus for the sake of having one for a while, but not had much justification. The plan's been to wait on Blitzkrieg eventually coming out with their T-54 (which finally has a release date of February) to pick up.
The Maus is a bit of an odd one. It suits a pulp setting, but if you're going for something a bit more realistic its out of place. Not just the practicality of it, but that the E-100 was already penned in as its successor before it was even built (IIRC the British had a low opinion of the half built E-100 they found).
I was actually thinking of buying a random 1/35th Tiger II or something, replacing must of the hull with a plasticard one, and using that as a fictional German super heavy for my own stuff. I'm not sure how that'd work out though.
I can get you a 1/48 Tiger II (very old Academy one, half-assembled), lol. My idea was to convert it to an fictional super-heavy but I don't have the talent to do it.
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Nah, nah, that's appreciated of course, but the idea's to either be lazy tomorrow and stay in making some SS, or do the monthly thing of going to the model shop and causing the owners concern of their kits well being as I take one away to do nasty things to it... Easiest thing to do would be to make a fixed casement thing probably. Meh, we'll see (I'd err on the side of laziness though).
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Here's a new Westwind Productions SotTR British Mech to go with the German one shown earlier.
(Also the JTFM Katchen, E-10/25, Leopard & E-25 Shutzenpanzerkampfwagon look like they're about to drop - maybe in the shop on Monday.)
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Reminds me of the ADR-04 Mk X Destroid Defender.
I wonder about walker's with no arms, what do they do when they fall down?
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I wonder about walker's with no arms, what do they do when they fall down?
The Fly?
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It looks like WestWind want to dip their toe into KS territory again (hopefully this SotTR one won't go like the last) to produce their new range of mechs (with new infantry types as add ons). The initial mechs include Brit, German & now Japanese models (with alternately equipped variants).
Panzer Mech will focus on producing a new range of 3D designed and printed Weird WWII Mecha.
Backer Rewards: In addition to a great saving on the RRP of the models, backers will have up to 3 mech pilot models added to their reward for FREE.
On achieving our Objectives, FREE Stretch Goal miniatures will also be added to our recommended Pledge Level - "Mech Commander".
Initial Goal; Jotun Panzer Mech armed with the 88mm KwkM46 Schwer Kanon and a 60mm Schwer Granatenwerfer.
As the campaign successfully unfolds, additional models will be added to the campaign as follows;
Flammenwerfer version of the Jotun called the Flammmech "Logi"
British "Bulldog" Mech with twin Quick Fire 75mm automatic canons.
American "Tecumesh" M4-MC a medium mech designed for mass production.
Japanese type 72 MEKA “Akuma jū” Devil Gun
In addition to these cool new 3D Mech, we will be releasing the following models as Add On's:-
Tesla Canon
Red Claw
Cerberus
Templar Aquisitors
Flesh Golem
Oni combat monster "oni-ni-kanabō"
USMC infantry squad
Japanese infantry squad
German Plasma Truppen
As an added bonus we will give our Kickstarter Backers access to our Weird WWII back catalogue at backer exclusive prices, which will feature some fantastic bundle deals.
.............and to round things off we have a few more surprises in store.
This Kickstarter project is due to go live at noon on Saturday 4th February.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Looking forward to this KS especially the release of the US Tesla-Cannon.
Any pics of the German Plasmatruppen yet?
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As to the plasmatruppen, I've not seen anything since they tried to KS SotTR II I'm afraid.
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WG/CG have dropped... some US Drop Troops, again very nice models (though not as nice as the FJ's, but jump troops with flamethrowers - hopefully not too many allowed per unit, but what's not to like). Also the Kodiak variant of their Grizzly mech, geared up for anti personnel & light vehicle carnage. The Soviets also get their first mech, the Cossack (a more unusual look, reminds me of a bit of Mil-24 Hind fuselage on legs).
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The Jump Troopers look great, as for the mechs, I'll stick with my Dust stuff, plus some one from the WestWind new range.
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WG/CG have put out an image of it's upcoming mech for the IJA - it does rather shout 'Tachikoma' at you - so I guess it depends whether that floats your boat or not (personally I think it's a grower).
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Thanks Ballardian for keeping us informed. I never find these Konflikt 47 previews on the internetz.
Really like what i see for the Japanese so far.
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I prefer the one without the turret, though my bias against this sort of this is probably clear. They'd do for a sci-fi setting, but some of the designs for that game aren't to my tastes. When I think Japanese mech its a sort of steampunk looking thing with spindly legs, exposed gears and rusted to hell from its time operating on some jungle covered island in the Pacific.
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Agreed - the walkers don't really do much for me.
I'd have liked to see more tie in with the existing vehicles and equipment.
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I think their rationale is that the IJA have acess to German mech design & this is their version of the Spinne. I agree that the main armament should probably mounted in something that doesn't resemble a hat (perhaps on the side of the raised rear of the body) as it looks a little small to contain anything bigger than an lmg.
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It, and a lot of the stuff from that game, just looks way too advanced. That's fine, but is jarring compared to the regular WWII stuff its supposed to mesh with.
I'd have liked something with less curves. There's president for that in the form of interwar stuff, though that thing looks more like something you'd see in Beyond the Gates of Antares unfortunately.
But, well, I don't have Japanese, so meh. None of the vehicles, or outright weird stuff from that game's interested me all that much anyway. :P
(Bitch, whine, moan...)
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I am not impressed with the IJA mechs.
They look like steam punk spider tanks.
As Ballardian mentions, the turret is a bit small. The Spinne has a similar problem. The 222 turret only has a 20mm cannon, the crew sit either side. The Spinne has a 37mm PAK and a 20mm, you probably can get one of them in there (the crew man supplied would be pulped by the recoiling breach, just hold the gun from a SDKFZ 251/10 over the space to see the recoil path).
I replaced the autocannon with a coax LMG, I still need to build a suitable breech and crew for mine.
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None of the vehicles, or outright weird stuff from that game's interested me all that much anyway. :P
(Bitch, whine, moan...)
The German and British Armoured Infantry are quite nice, unsure whether I prefer the SOTR British Steel to the Galahad (working on one each).
The robots look like they are the wrong scale, 1/43 or 1/35 rather than 1/56, just look at the guns. I am trying to remember what the robot in one of the comics of my childhood looked like.
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Back to the Spinne turret, there are some prototype 3D prints of the turret on a 251 here http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=308.msg3441#msg3441 (http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=308.msg3441#msg3441)
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I agree that the Japanese mechs legs don't look quite right (their curves making them look a little too futuristic) & would be better if a little cruder looking.
UVS, I'm looking forward to the Rubicon 222, though I'm not that bothered by the rather oversized guns on the Spinne (an easy fix if you wanted & I developed a soft spot for the model - it makes me think of a 222 on legs) after all, you have to ignore that it would drive its legs into the ground first (given how pointed they are).
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Whenever Rubicon eventually release those expansion kits. I've been waiting on the Opel Blitz one for months...
Would a 222 turret work on the Spinne? I'm not sure how the measurements compare. I suppose if they don't something similar could be made out of plasticard (maybe with a solid canopy rather than the mesh one for ease).
I like the look of the Spinne, though yeah those legs would need fixed (hmn...). The price has been the sticking point for me unfortunately (more than a GW Sentinel, though I won't hold it against Clockwork Goblin).
Edit: The Rubicon 250/9 Alte kit is coming out Q3 2017 (originally shown Q1 2016). Screw that. :D
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Would a 222 turret work on the Spinne?
I'm fairly sure that the Spinnes turret is noticably larger, though changing the armament would be simple enough.
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I have a WIP 253 and the Spinne, once I get home I will photograph them and the 37mm off the command/support 251.
I agree the Spinne turret is bigger.
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I have a WIP 253 and the Spinne, once I get home I will photograph them and the 37mm off the command/support 251.
I agree the Spinne turret is bigger.
No sooner the word... then the procrastination....
253 vs Spinne (all WIP).
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YBvY996BsBs/WJi2Oz5cn7I/AAAAAAAAB2U/qreUh2xFnUc_OLTf39iSa8pyocwpEcf_wCLcB/s1600/spinnecompare1.png)
Spinne turret on 253
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lhd2rUgsj80/WJi2O_c7HZI/AAAAAAAAB2Q/YOGXfEBfIzkyqsZjSuaOrWAaY5BBC473wCLcB/s1600/spinnecompare2.png)
Not convinced it is actually bigger.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W4xnqxEqKSo/WJi2Ot70SgI/AAAAAAAAB2M/SFlEYi9TTeEBDqhrM_nmew71r7hWZfU-gCLcB/s1600/spinnecompare3.png)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2mIMK-9GOxc/WJi2PhNYOZI/AAAAAAAAB2c/XHKt8Dri9EIZWtOJ4LXgf1I4DRHfz3Q1wCLcB/s1600/spinnecompare6.png)
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Another comparison shot.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Wq5a3jCuaVo/WJi_pwX6j1I/AAAAAAAAB20/93FMoU6YZ6ILtxKzx-YdH6fSMZEwMgVRwCLcB/s1600/spinnecompare7.png)
It probably needs a recuperator (I think it is called) under the barrel and then recoil path protection for the crew.
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Hmn, is the main gun's breach supposed to be that piddly? It looks even worse seeing it without the crewman.
The closeups make the thing look a bit basic. Aye, a 222's turret may be too small, though maybe that's a good thing...
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Yup, the breech is that small. The 20mm auto cannon breech is unmodified as well.
Strictly speaking, compared with the 37mm and the PSC guns, it is not too small, it just needs the guard.
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Not convinced it is actually bigger.
You could be right, but I think your idea for a remote mg might well suit the 253 better.
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I'm playing about with the Spinne right now. Of the turrets I've tried a Luchs one seems the most appropriate (though you'd need to cut down the back slightly for 270 degrees movement. Pity I used my Luchs turret on that Mammoth APC... Bah!
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WG have put some pictures of painted Daughters Of The Motherland - like most of the range, they're pretty nice, their rather chunky muscularity explained by their being Soviet super soldiers.
There's also a variant on the Spinne, armed with a flamethrower, the model's a matter of taste, but I personally rather like it & the new closed turret looks like it could fuel the conversion itch nicely.
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Did they remove the folding stocks from the Daughters of the Motherland? Loads of people mentioned how dumb they looked stockless, so they added ones to the 3D file, but I can't see them in the production models.
The placement of the flame tanks on that Spinne look a bit ...bolted on. Maybe having at the back on that big plate over the engine would be more practical. The sculptor oddly slapped the tank on the side, but didn't do anything about the access hatch its half sitting on top of. ...It just looks weird.
Those rules don't include the higher chance to be damaged due to having a flame thrower? Hmn.
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Wymalla - the AKs' folding stocks are (just about) visible on some of the models (the one raising her AK above her head & the one below on the models left/our right in particular) - but the pic doesn't make it easy to see them. So I assume that they're present on the other models, just not visible in the pic (personally I'd've prefered wooden furniture on the guns).
As to the Flammespinne - I largely agree with you, I'd probably place the tanks horizontally & singly on the back of the turret (I've got a lot of left over GW IG flamer tanks that'd probably look the part a little better, just split the paired tanks & place one on each of the two rear turret panels).
I couldn't comment on the BA/K47 flamer rules - they're brutal in Secrets...
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In BA/K47 the increased possibility of damage because of a flamethrower is a special rule of the weapon itself. So of course the Flammspinne will be subject to this rule.
I think the fueltanks are lose and can easily be placed anywhere you want.
I agree with the "tacked on" look of the flamethrower.
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Aye, wood stocks would be preferred, but that'd be difficult giving the poses without re-doing them. The AK's folding stock came from the MP-40 IIRC though.
The Flammespinne's rules lack that rule actually. :)
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I have to admit to being less than impressed with the daughters of the revolution. I know they are super soldiers but the proportions look odd (I was hoping more along the lines of Bridget Regan).
The tanks on the flamer Spinne look like they have been added as an after thought. This is especially silly as there is space on the back of the engine bulge below the fans.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4CC3Ip1WAiE/WLMz1eswttI/AAAAAAAAB9g/aiDrxWUqlIMqpTL5qCkMUcVdybBzJCQTACLcB/s1600/spinne-3.png)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mSEvCIABAjs/WLMz1TiVsyI/AAAAAAAAB9c/PKbxnwTb_tIXGU8RSWHL-nfkL3mE0TwUQCLcB/s1600/spinne-4.png)
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Looks like WG/CG have got around to releasing their heavier mech designs for the Soviets & Germans. The Soviet Mammoth is obviously channeling the spirit of the multi turreted tanks of the late thirties (T28 & T35) & while a good treatment of said approach it's not my samovar of tea. (For Soviets, I dont think the WestWind Secrets mechs are currently beatable, they're gorgeous models that 'feel' right - despite, as Wymalla has said, that the mech concept is inherently dubious - making some 'sense' for smaller examples capable of exploiting their greater manouverablity in confined urban enviroments - while less so for open country vehicles). The German Thor/Zeus mechs are larger versions of their 15mm counterparts & sadly, again don't tickle me the right way (but of course that's only my opinion). I don't mind the multi-legged approach, but feel that they should be squatter - with the legs more side than bottom mounted (& the dozer blade/extra armour is just bit too 40K for me).
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The lack of detail with their vehicle kits, and general chunkiness rubs me in the wrong way. Those German ones are straight out of 40K (the shorter barrelled Panzer IV turret looks rather Leman Russ like). Dust's stuff, while itself not being amazing across the board, is more what I'd be looking for, but I suppose this may not be the place for comparison.
(https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/wave6/prinzluther.png)
Again, its personal taste I suppose, and stuff like this would fit in easily with plenty of manufacturer's stuff.
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Hmmm.
Are the plates Lego (TM) compatible?
This needs six to eight legs to emphasise the weight of the machine.
The orc style "head" does not add to its look.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94636.0;attach=57817;image)
The crew space needs to be bigger, same as the Spinne.
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More hmmm...
With the exception of another Orc head, this to me looks slightly better.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94636.0;attach=57819;image)
The six legs emphasise the weight of the machine.
The turret and hull detail remind me of the Ground Zero Games 25mm models of the late eighties.
That Dust model looks good, I also liked the German mech from Company B's Gearkrieg range, the wheel/track options giving better mobility.
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I think that one of the problems with the Zeus/Thor mechs is that they may be the result of cad files for 15mm being blown up to 28mm without being re-detailed more appropriately for that scale (I love their Grizzly based mechs & the smaller single man walkers but really struggle to find much love for these).
Wymalla - I really like that Dust model - but it's enormous - so tall that I just don't think it makes sense as a 28mm transport - since you'd need a ladder to get in or out (I like the Kugelblitz turret on that version though) - though I've been considering using the chassis as a basis for a very large artillery piece. Their smaller mechs make great basis' for conversions - there's one of their recent offerings a few pages back in this thread (pg3) - I've used several in the past (& am currently working on a few more, including those below - please excuse the pick, they're currenly at about the midway painting stage).
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Well its just aesthetic wise, as said, the Clockwork Goblin stuff looks like blown up 15mm files. Meanwhile Dust's mechs, whilst obviously being from a larger scale, don't look nearly so, well toy like ...I mean 40k styled, or am I mixing the two of those up?
They're doing what they can, but looking at the pair of German ones I'm finding it difficult to work out how to bring them up to snuff (zimmerit, if all else fails then that'll cover the lack of detail). However, I have similar criticisms of Warlord's vehicles, so perhaps the two companies are made for each other. :)
*Snittiness overload*
Hey at least the short barrelled one has one of those turret grenade launchers like they were adding to the late war tanks. I was wondering how on earth the crew are supposed to defend themselves against any infantry who make it up close (those legs looks far too un-manoeuvrable for squashing the unsuspecting buggers). ...Though maybe I'm assigning too much thought towards practicality when it comes to such a ludicrous concept (someone'll have the Red Skull popping out of the commander's hatch in no time).
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The only good thing I can say about the new mechs is that I look at the turret of the Zeus (the one on the left, with the bigger gun) and wonder if it can be used to kitbash a fictional German tank :D
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Re: Spinne with flamethrower
Those rules don't include the higher chance to be damaged due to having a flame thrower? Hmn.
It does mention the +1 to damage rolls on page 65 of the K47 rule book but not near the damage table (I do not have the BA v2 rules nor are the BA rules to hand to see if the rule is better laid out there).
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The only good thing I can say about the new mechs is that I look at the turret of the Zeus (the one on the left, with the bigger gun) and wonder if it can be used to kitbash a fictional German tank :D
I would want to remove some of the detail from the side of the turrets, later German tanks did not have hatches etc in the turret sides.
Is there room in the turret for the main gun to recoil without intersecting catastrophically with any one standing in the cupola?
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Hey at least the short barrelled one has one of those turret grenade launchers like they were adding to the late war tanks. I was wondering how on earth the crew are supposed to defend themselves against any infantry who make it up close (those legs looks far too un-manoeuvrable for squashing the unsuspecting buggers). ...Though maybe I'm assigning too much thought towards practicality when it comes to such a ludicrous concept (someone'll have the Red Skull popping out of the commander's hatch in no time).
Good point (not the Red Skull bit, though that is an idea, where is that Dictator figure...).
Some kind of weapon system is needed to keep infantry at bay.
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Nobody look at the prices of those K47 Heavy mechs with a strong stomach.
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/new-releases/products/german-zeus-heavy-mechpanzer
(...more than their Maus and just as ugly)
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If I needed more reasons than it being ugly...the price...argh :?
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Nobody look at the prices of those K47 Heavy mechs with a strong stomach.
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/new-releases/products/german-zeus-heavy-mechpanzer
(...more than their Maus and just as ugly)
I beg to differ, far more ugly....
^___^
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The price... perhaps they're going for an exclusivity angle, or the rules are so good you'll want one... that'll be a no then.
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so much awesome stuff. they only thing I really detest are the Light german walkers...it just seems wrong and silly to me.
but that is a very small niggle and one easily avoided
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And the Soviet Mammoth Walker is now on pre-order, same price as the German heavy:
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/new-releases/products/soviet-mammoth-walker
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£60 is high...but you only need one. and its the same price as some dumb computer game people play for 3 days and then get rid of for 1/4 of the price paid.
this will last allot longer
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I'd rather buy the DUST heavy walker (or probably a lighter one due to the size) TBH. :/
Ah, though the shipping cost on one of those things would probably be the same as one of those K47 walkers. :D
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WG/CG have released another render of a unit for K47, a robotic support unit for the Brits - I have to admit that this is one of their sculpts I'm not really convinced by (I prefer the numerous conversions based on universal carriers) - but it's mini I'm not fond of rather than the concept of more automated units - any thoughts?
Hooray, this is not the Automated Carrier.
The Automated Carrier is a Universal Carrier with built in Automated Infantry style operators (one 'gunner' and one 'driver'.
They had a model at Salute but I forgot to photograph it (someone must have).
I did mention the Praying Mantis concept to them.
Also a visual render of a British walker (not bad, shoulder cannon and arm mounted MMGs, armour plates bolted Cromwell style).
They had a print of a gun platform (open top walker) for the Allies.
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Aye, here's pictures from their Facebook page of their K47 specific stuff (hopefully visible).
Its worth pointing out that the Germans in the second picture were previewed months ago. Since then they've had their trenchcoats removed, which seems odd (people complained that the way they were buttoned up was dumb, but I guess making them open was too much work, hmn...). The MGs still ( as with the whole K47 line) have their ammo belts on the wrong side ...and now appear stockless (along with the ARs, I guess for the pulp factor, as they're wearing exoskeletons). :(
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18056080_10153869497963039_4109010459311690331_o.jpg?oh=7cccd7ba6606f25fa9f2981073a4756e&oe=5974950D)
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s720x720/18076556_10153869490063039_4160052597403530889_o.jpg?oh=14ba6de60c6415d920b27821f669987e&oe=59992B37)
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s851x315/17991665_10153869385488039_7874023063743303739_o.jpg?oh=e918768133803ac52a965692faa197ec&oe=5997269E)
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I quite like the Automated Carrier, just welding a couple of robots into a UC seems right to me - but I love the London Bull Terrier models (I don't know what use they may be in K47, but in Secrets they'll provide a superior version of Nigel). I'd not seen the German infantry in gas masks & body armour before, I like them (& will undoubtedly pick some up once they're released) but will clearly have to replace most of the assault rifles - having most with something like a GW43 would've been preferable (hopefully the arms are seperate). I'm glad the greatcoats have gone - surely if you were going to have body armour a smock would've been more appropriate.
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I'm not 100% on the German's arms due to the exoskeleton, but if they're following on from their other infantry they should be separate. If you want to give them G43s I'd recommend the Wargames Factory set which are a similar scale in plastic (though the Perry's stuff should also be a similar size, but I'm not sure if they only come with Kar-98ks). It looks like the exoskeleton is on their backs as well, in which case some creativity with a knife and greenstuff would be required (but no more than when I was removing the jetpacks from their Fallschirmjäger).
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Are they in exo-skeletons - the pic's a little blurry, I thought they were just infantry with some body armour with small pauldrons? (If so I'll admit to being slightly less interested.) As long as I can get a saw in there to remove the arms or hands I don't mind too much. Unfortunately since WG swallowed WF their late war Germans seem to have disappeared (I'd been using their GW43 arms for my conversions for Secrets). I did pick up a load of the Assault Groups M14s & with a little judicious cutting & filing they're passable replacements.
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They've an exoskeleton over their right arm which goes to a pack on their backs. I can't find it right now, but Clockwork Goblin posted a 360 shot of the test model on the K47 Facebook page a while ago which is a lot clearer.
Aye, that WGF was really common at one point, now its dried up. You can buy it in the US still for pennies, but the shipping is ridiculous. I tend to pick them up at shows, but the supply's running out unfortunately. I doubt that Warlord will release the WWII stuff (unlike the other ranges -which they sell for like 4 times the original cost), mostly due to it conflicting with their own line (despite being miles better), but I guess also as the kits weren't 100% accurate with the uniforms.
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Cheers, I hadn't noticed the arm gubbins till you pointed it out. As to their usefulness, I guess it depends on if their arms are attached & how much repair/clean-up work I'd have to do once they were removed - pity they won't to be plastic (I imagine they'll be pewter like ther other K47 stuff).
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You could always use the 'Black Sun Troopers' from the Acthung! Cthuhlu range. The box (expensive but lovely figures) give you 10 Gas-masked models, most with MP44, one with MG34/42 and 2 Flamethrower.
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You could always use the 'Black Sun Troopers' from the Acthung! Cthuhlu range. The box (expensive but lovely figures) give you 10 Gas-masked models, most with MP44, one with MG34/42 and 2 Flamethrower.
A word of warning, unless they changed their range for the set the Black Sun Troopers are "non-heroic" 28mm and will look small next to Warlord plastics or Clockwork Goblin figures.
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Cheers Keeper Nilbog, the AC minis are really nice sculpts, but as Predatorpt says, they are on the small side compared to the WG & WF minis I've previously used to convert for Secrets. The other problem being that they're all in greatcoats & all have Sturmgewehrs. I'm always on the look-out for good models in standard uniform with smocks/Zeltbahn for rank & file troops, (I'll usually convert them to having body armour) & rifles (again converted to having GW43s or similar) preferably fitting in scalewise with my existing stuff.
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This is probably useful.
Achtung Cthulhu, Clockwork Goblin, Warlord Games, Wargames Factory, CP Models, Heer46, Secrets of the Third Reich
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/4/24/872895_md-Scales.JPG)
* the Clockwork Goblin, Warlord Games and CP Models guys have integral bases. However the CP Models soldier still stands half a head taller than most other ranges.
** Larger image if need **
https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/872895-Scales.html
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I see what you mean about the height of the CP minis, though a sprinkling of them amongst the others probably wouldn't look out of place. I really like the Clockwork Goblin FJ's, so I'll have to recruit some of those.
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Aye, in the scheme of things I prefer the Heer46 for height, but the CP Models guys for their detail (the Heer46 is *really* chunky). Still looking for a middle ground (Artizan do so Kharkov style parkas well, but the guns are a bit meh).
With the Fallschirmjäger the jetpacks are molded to the body. The metal's pretty soft though, so I managed to hack the ones off of mine with some time, then covered up the mess with some small backpacks (something similar could be achieved with the pouches from the Tamiya 1/48th US Stowage kit). They're a really nice kit, its just finding a use for them. I'd recommend paring them along with Artizan's weird Fallschirmjäger (if you can find them on the cheap, instead of the individual packs they're now sold as) if you need riflemen - or just swap out the arms for the Wargames Factory ones with maybe some extra details added (these come with wrist mounted compasses as well, which're neat). > or just use the FG-42s as rifles, as well only one per squad was supposed to be used in full auto - along with a bipod as a support weapon.
...But I digress. I really just like that kit (as with their other stuff, it could with more respirator heads though).
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Here are a couple more previews of forthcoming K47 stuff - a British medium mech (previously mentioned by UVS) & some IJA infantry in body armour. The mech is interesting, but still in the render stage, while the infantry are continuing the CG trend for producing some very nice figure models - though the cylindrical divers helmet is a little odd (though I like it).
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That is the chappie, well grabbed.
With reference to the IJA troops, when I was talking to one of the Clockwork Goblins, I was told they use some negative space wedgie to bypass terrain (phase shift or something).
There will be a temptation to give them Minion eyes though...
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the IJA certainly are odd...but I also kinda like tham
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There will be a temptation to give them Minion eyes though...
Thats certainly true. Their rifles also look rather strange, does anyone know if they're special in any way, or just odd looking?
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WW put out some more pics of their KS mechs, they're looking rather good (though I still think the Jotun needs some 'toes' - its feet look a little small, but they'd be easy to add). The 'ball' tank looks fun, not sure if I've got a place for it, but I like its quirkiness.
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Excellent, the wheely tank looks strange, not identical to the one in the Russian museum.
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Heer 46 have released (it's in their store) a 1/56 Katzchen Stummel - as with all their stuff it's a nice clean cast & looks good, but it does seem a little light in detail - lacking tools & stowage (though admittedly all this could be added by the modeller - but the JTFM example does come with it).
It's the first in a pair of Katzchen variants, with the standard APC to follow.
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I was looking at that, but as I thought when the original pictures came out, there's just far too little detail for my tastes (gap filling needed). I do like how they mounted the gun on it at least ...though, well, it still doesn't have an engine. ;)
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it still doesn't have an engine
My thoughts exactly - their not yet released standard Katzchen does appear to have something in the right rear of the hull where the engine was supposed to be - but it's a bit small. With the Stummel I don't know where the engine was supposed to be - on this model it's definately not in the usual place, but I'm not sure you could fit it in the forward hull with the gun there.
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They said its under the hull. ...Apparently. No pics. :)
Ah, though if they were serious then that thing would have zero ground clearance as the Katzchen's engine block was 2/5ths of the width of the interior or there abouts. ...If you're going to make realistic paper panzers (if that's such a thing), then well ...make them functional.
As it stands, there's always just buying a Rubicon Hetzer and sticking some plasticard on it. You can make two Katzchen out of one of those with the spare track assemblies.
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Yeah, my posts in this threads are mostly me bitching about whatever the particular new releases are if people hadn't already sensed a theme. ;)
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lol
I too want my weird war stuff at least plausible.
The Flat surfaces are unfortunately just how they are: flat and boring.
Some tools would be nice, a bit of optional stowage: Spare track, baggage an a roadwheel or two perhaps?
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They ARE supposd to be some kind of "phase troopers". And the suit allows them to walk though terrain and bullets and . Or something like that.
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Because Paint is a great substitute for Photoshop and a tablet...
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/5/18/877867_md-Alt.jpg)
Fill the gaps, add an engine, add handholds/ places to stick stowage to the sides, add a view port for the driver, add details to the track armour ...other junk.
Not to say it isn't workable, but that's what I'd do if I bought the thing. Though a comparison between Jeff's, this, and one made from a Rubicon Hetzer could be nice. My money's with JTFM's at the moment TBH (just a pity when I placed my order there that I already had 3 of the bloody things).
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The handrails do not bother me as much as the absence of the engine box. It is such a distinctive feature of all published plans. Oh and no vision port for the driver, good point.
Nice work with paint tbough
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Wymalla - you certainly pointed out what was missing from the model with that pic, I did think that it looked somehow unfinished - when the pics first went up (about a month ago for the pre-production models) I just assumed they'd have more detail added, but it appears not, which seems odd as Heer 46 stuff is otherwise very good.
As a consequence I think it'd be diificult to choose this one over the JTFM model, especially now as he's got a new UK & EU ditributor coming online. That said, am I alone in thinking that grey resin somehow looks better than the 'natural' cream colour? I realise that it's irrational, but whenever I've cast something in both cream & coloured resin, the coloured one always looks better somehow o_o
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No model pictures as of yet, but it appears Warlord are coming out with one a •Trippel SG6 Trippelwagen for their Sealion stuff at some point. ...Not strictly weird war, but well, weird enough (they had stranger amphibious stuff TBH though).
(http://c7.alamy.com/comp/DW52E2/a-cut-out-of-an-sg6-41-trippelwagen-amphibious-car-ordered-an-used-DW52E2.jpg)
They also mentioned a flying Panzer 1, but well that's complete nonsense. ;)
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There are also a plucky female Allied agent (Margaret?) and a Soviet female not quite Super Soldier (Dorothy). There is also a Tardis.
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There are also a plucky female Allied agent (Margaret?) and a Soviet female not quite Super Soldier (Dorothy). There is also a Tardis.
Wait, what's this? Can't seem to find this... Link?
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There are also a plucky female Allied agent (Margaret?) and a Soviet female not quite Super Soldier (Dorothy). There is also a Tardis.
Wait, what's this? Can't seem to find this... Link?
http://www.warlordgames.com/forces-for-operation-sea-lion/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/forces-for-operation-sea-lion/)
You need to scroll down to Defenders of the Realm (apparently more information on Friday).
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Ahh, gotcha!
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Right, less of my usual bitching with this post; an upcoming Heavy walker by Clockwork Goblin.
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19657417_1303333536432187_850469941415208038_n.jpg?oh=88d14b34f4a952f4626034bfeb774ab8&oe=59CFC5CC)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19702037_1303333646432176_8112547807332489875_n.jpg?oh=2eb4e726e382f141b034f9c573f3c0f7&oe=59D145C5)
I actually like this one. A bit Wolfenstein ...ey, sort of of. I mean it certainly looks a bit more sensical than some of the walkers out there from other companies (not to mention the K47 Japanese ones, which are just anime ...ah, though saying that, they look better without the turrets). The clamps are more practical than the pseudo hands the Allied ones have.
I'd swap out that turret/ head thing for a normal commander's cupola. The autocannons either side of the crew compartment could do with being changed for something more traditional looking as well (though the MG-42 style ones look better. Maybe stick rocket tubes in their place instead). I'd replace the jetpack with a big engine block with vents. ...I'm really not a fan of jetpacks.
That nebelwerfer's just as impractical to reload as the one I stuck on my spinne... :D
So yeah, not bitching, just thinking of what I could do with one when its eventually released. If its the size of the US heavy walkers then I'd assume retail on this would be £30.
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Which side fields it?
I agree the head cannon is a bit odd, as are the side cannon.
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UVS - I assume it's German - there's a number of bits which resemble those on their FJ minis (the jetpack venturi).
I like this one a lot more than the multi-legged designs of the other German mechs, I assume it being bi-pedal is because its a jump-mech & would look weird (& not in a good way) if it were like the others. The top mounted weapon is ok, (though I prefer to see them arm mounted).
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Its German - thus the nebelwerfer, Mg42s, etc. My assumption is that the fluff will be its based on the concept of American jump walkers, they just stole the idea - i.e. like the Panzerschreck and Bazooka, or Rutcher and Hellcat.
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Thanks, I thought it might from your description but I could not see (besides the seven tube nebelwerfer) anything particularly German in the design (not like the Spinne).
It could do with bigger feet.
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Agreed, the biggest problem is keeping the 'feel' of that nation's armour.
Seeing as there aren't any walkers that is very tough!
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Agreed, the biggest problem is keeping the 'feel' of that nation's armour.
Seeing as there aren't any walkers that is very tough!
True, the half track styled German Gearkrieg walker being a good example as is the Spinne.
But what would be considered as a Nation's tank style?
I remember a US walker which looked like a Sherman or Stuart on legs (but I cannot remember who planned it). The Clockwork Goblin Grizzly has the M4A1 style cast hull.
Early War British would either be ludicrously poorly armoured but extremely fast or awesomely armoured but very slow. Both armed with two pounders and machine guns. The former would feature a lot of rivets, the latter not so. Skirts might be worn (imagine a Stompa built by Rolls Royce or LMSR).
Later ones would either continue the heavy armour theme but with bigger (75mm QF) guns or medium with features of the Cromwell, Comet or Centurion.
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Exactly the problem... it's very difficult!
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Rutcher and Hellcat.
The what now? Can't seem to find any reference to this. My Google-Fu is failing me here.
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I think the main theme should be 'stuff taken from other production lines'
So keep bits like the Spinne. The turrets should be from existing tanks.
The challenge is how to keep the suspension/undercarriage/legs realistic/practical while keeping a flavour of the nation.
The German should be complex and fragile with a PzIV or Panther turret? The Spinne is a good start (but needs a turret!)
The US should have a modular suspension with repeated items with a sherman turret or Stuart
The Brit should be old fashioned slab sided but sturdy. Cromwell or Matilda turret? Churchill?
The Soviet should have sloped armour and modern design but crudely executed. T-34 turret. Aerosan style fragile soft skin?
Japanese will be bonkers...
Oh and a walker needs 3 or more legs with decent ground pressure. 2 legs is unstable!
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The what now? Can't seem to find any reference to this. My Google-Fu is failing me here.
My German's crap. I meant the Rutscher. The Germans saw the American Hellcat, a light tank with a powerful gun, and wanted to emulate it. They brought back a design from a few years prior and wanted to include it in their E-series (its commonly referred to as the E-5 incorrectly). It was a 3.5 ton tank with piss all armour equipped with twin PAW 600 guns (which fired HEAT rounds). A wooden mockup was made, and a parts list set out, but nothing came of it.
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/6/18/884359_sm-WIP%20Rutscher.JPG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/884359-WIP%20Rutscher.html)
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:-*
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Two legs on a walker? Unstable? Bah!
(https://www.bnamodelworld.com/bmz_cache/8/82355dd92e773c298afaefcbd37b7196.image.800x600.jpg)
War Thunder's April Fools walker looked alright though.
(http://img13.deviantart.net/935b/i/2015/105/4/0/german_chicken_walker__war_thunder__by_britishgi-d8pv1m5.jpg)
Clockwork Goblin's original renders for their heavy walkers showed some more obvious nods to real WWII tank designs.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a7/7d/4a/a77d4a4afdccfc133acfe62b1971e257.jpg)
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Oh and a walker needs 3 or more legs with decent ground pressure. 2 legs is unstable!
A walker with three legs is stable but also immobile, remember HG Well's description of the movement of a Martian Warmachine.
One of the irritating aspects of the Ghar figures.
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That Konigsmecha is much better than the 28mm ones that have been released by Warlord.
Not convinced by the rocket pods though, weapons suitable for suppressing infantry or light armour would appeal more.
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That tripod mech is likely to spend a lot of time face down in a ditch - it broadly looks like he's pinched the Mechatank 'Jagdroboter' design (Gas.Oline/Quarter-Kit) - they produced a line of 1/48 bipedal German mechs (they're not bad).
I also agree that the original multi-legged design was better than the Thor/Zeus currently out.
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Ground pressure is the killer on the idea of mecha (I first saw it discussed in one of the R Talsorian Games Mekton books).
Bipedal walker's double the ground pressure issue (for an example of its effect, see one of the chapters of Niven and Barnes's Barsoom Project).
Lights and Medium could be bipedal, Heavies and above may need more legs, not just because of ground pressure but actually moving the legs.
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To quote the world famous expert on ambulatory mechanics, Laurie Anderson:
"You're walking. And you don't always realize it
But you're always falling
With each step, you fall forward slightly
And then catch yourself from falling
Over and over, you're falling
And then catching yourself from falling
And this is how you can be walking and falling
At the same time"
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Never liked the walker thing...
A spider mech might work...
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I've never understood the weird war fetish for walkers myself. Magic and Cthonian unknowables I can accept, but the basic physical impracticality of a bipedal, or even quadrupedal walker tank tweaks my nose.
On reflection, I probably wouldn't care at all (settings built entirely around such walkers, like Gundam for instance, don't bother me at all), except it seems like EVERYONE doing WWWI or WWWII wants to toss in walkers of some sort, and the saturation and lack of imagination is annoying. Do something else with weird war armour! Hovertanks or land dreadnoughts or anything else, really.
My German's crap. I meant the Rutscher. The Germans saw the American Hellcat, a light tank with a powerful gun, and wanted to emulate it. They brought back a design from a few years prior and wanted to include it in their E-series (its commonly referred to as the E-5 incorrectly). It was a 3.5 ton tank with piss all armour equipped with twin PAW 600 guns (which fired HEAT rounds). A wooden mockup was made, and a parts list set out, but nothing came of it.
(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/6/18/884359_sm-WIP%20Rutscher.JPG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/884359-WIP%20Rutscher.html)
Neat!
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I think it's because walkers that look like a Sherman (or whatever) immediately screams WEIRD to people in ways that a Sherman with a hover-skirt doesn't. But while I love walkers, I agree that it would be nice if someone took a different tact Weird War armored vehicles.
-Will
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But speaking of walkers:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19657417_1303333536432187_850469941415208038_n.jpg?oh=88d14b34f4a952f4626034bfeb774ab8&oe=59CFC5CC)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19702037_1303333646432176_8112547807332489875_n.jpg?oh=2eb4e726e382f141b034f9c573f3c0f7&oe=59D145C5)
New German 'Medium' walker from Clockwork Goblin.
-Will
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Heh, the talk of walkers came from me posting those pictures on the previous page. ;)
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Heh, the talk of walkers came from me posting those pictures on the previous page. Wink
Whoops! o_o That is what I get for only reading the last page in the thread! lol
-Will
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Whoops! o_o That is what I get for only reading the last page in the thread! lol
-Will
We all do it some time (I did not notice the 20mm scale reference on the BEF tow thread) ^__^.
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WG have released a rather nice set of anti-mech sniper figures - I guess AT rifles have been given a new lease of life.
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Nice AMR team, but in cold gear.
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"Shoot 'em in the kneecaps, they'll never see it coming!"
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Yeah, I've put an order in for those - they'll do as a regular anti-tank rifle team. Pity the walker's going to be a way off, so I'm not sure how much K47 is coming up other than the Japanese at the end of the year (I believe Italians and Finns are coming out eventually. Finnish captured Soviet stuff could be useful).
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Anyone know where I can buy this DUST 1947 stuff in the UK? ::)
(http://www.dustgame.com/ufiles/K-SU723-W7.jpg)
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The bastard child of an RSO and BDRM-1?
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What with the rather chaotic roll-out after the less than stellar KS fullfilment performance, finding what you want from the range is a bit tricky; Element Games - elementgames.co.uk (http://elementgames.co.uk) have stocked Dust, but seem to currently be out of everything - you'd have to talk to them about supply of specific items.
I know it's not the UK, but Hexy in Poland (hexy-shop.com/product-category/producer/dust-tactics/ (http://hexy-shop.com/product-category/producer/dust-tactics/)) seem to be a more reliable distibutor than the UK ones at the moment - unfortunately the PT-47A is a bit pricy at €30. (It's still a better option than buying from the US & seeing what customs might slap on top.)
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I do quite like the Dust vibe. It's gritty and manage it without being silly.
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I like Dust for its vehicles, even if it jumps the shark a lot with the infantry. Pity its 32mm. That BRDM-1 thing looks cool. In 1/56th scale it'd be the size of a Panzer III probably, so bigger than it should be, but with a smaller cupola added it could work.
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I was alerted to this a while ago now, but then it was was in 1/50th. King's Hobbies and Games have an E-100 in 1/56th.
(http://www.kingshobbiesandgames.com/v/vspfiles/photos/28mmGernE100-3.jpg)
http://www.kingshobbiesandgames.com/28mm-German-E-100-p/28mmgerne100.htm
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I was alerted to this a while ago now, but then it was was in 1/50th. King's Hobbies and Games have an E-100 in 1/56th.
(http://www.kingshobbiesandgames.com/v/vspfiles/photos/28mmGernE100-3.jpg)
http://www.kingshobbiesandgames.com/28mm-German-E-100-p/28mmgerne100.htm
Another US site >:( But at least I keep my wallet happy...
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100$ and its free shipping. ;)
That model will definitely need more detail added, but its easier than scratch building the whole thing. As its 3D printed it can be scaled up or down without too much bother, so I'm asking the seller if they can keep it in line with Warlord's Maus and probably picking up a few for the regular variant, a StuG and, hmn I guess something else (...rocket platform? :)).
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100$ and its free shipping. ;)
That model will definitely need more detail added, but its easier than scratch building the whole thing. As its 3D printed it can be scaled up or down without too much bother, so I'm asking the seller if they can keep it in line with Warlord's Maus and probably picking up a few for the regular variant, a StuG and, hmn I guess something else (...rocket platform? :)).
Yeah, the rocket platform is a great idea. Somewhere I have pictures of an E-100 used as a V4 launcher (they used a 1/35 kit for both rocket and tank, so I guess it was the Dragon ones).
Even with free shipping, everything that comes from the US is stopped at our Customs (or at least all my parcels) :\
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Ah right, Portugal, and well I remember you saying the same about Company B. Oddly I've never had anything stopped at customs barring that one package from Russia the week after the embargo started. Its good to live in a backwater country (Scotland that is). :)
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That's you buggered then ;D
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The plan to break us off and move the country to the middle of the Atlantic for the best (or worst) of both worlds for shipping is still in progress...
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West Wind have released some pics of what the finished German War Wheel from their recent KS will look like.
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Where does the driver sit?
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Where does the driver sit?
Well, if he's a 500-pound gorilla, wherever he likes.
...I'll just get my coat.
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Where does the driver sit?
Supposedly, there's a bunch of mirrors that allow the pilot to see through those slots. But that's not my cup of tea when it comes to suspension of disbelief.
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Where does the driver sit?
That is not so much the issue (in the centre part - it functions like a monowheel), but how the driver can see. Mirrors might work but alignment would be lost on rough ground.
The only thing about that arrangement I can see that is an advantage is that the track functions as frontal armour. Are the contact points between the hull and the track units unsprung,the suspension being between the bogies and the track faces (behaving like HG Wells' Land Ironclads https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedrail_wheel).
Would have preferred a variant on the kugelpanzer.
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WestWind have put a nice painted pic of their Sherman mech from the recent KS up - it looks good though I'd be tempted to replace one of the cannon for anti-infantry weapons.
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Nice, the MBR04-MkVI styling continues.
Anti infantry weapons would have been useful even if it is not a 180mm GL, autocannon, HMG and laser pack.
http://deculture.wikia.com/wiki/MBR-04_Destroid_Tomahawk_Mk_VI (http://deculture.wikia.com/wiki/MBR-04_Destroid_Tomahawk_Mk_VI)
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Supposedly, there's a bunch of mirrors that allow the pilot to see through those slots. But that's not my cup of tea when it comes to suspension of disbelief.
How about a camera above the gun on each side.
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How about a camera above the gun on each side.
Vacuum tubes are just as vulnerable as mirrors.
I have always assumed that the Vampir active infrared sight was a one piece converter and not a camera, processing and display system.
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Since the recent decree the Cthulhu must now be a part of all games Dust has gone and instigated a Mythos faction (that's somehow going to be linked to their also-upcoming Japanese force). Since I play plenty of other Lovecraftian influenced games I'm happy enough about it & sure I can find a home for some of these minis.
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Oh, I hadn't realised that those were actual DUST models till I noticed the bases. Well DUST's just a mess of weird war concepts to begin with; throwing Cthulhu into the mix just cements that. I believe that something of the sort's been implied since the game first came out, though well, a lot of the DUST stuff's never really been my cup of tea to begin with (perfectly nice walkers ...then they throw in mutant gorillas just to check all the boxes).
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...then they throw in mutant gorillas just to check all the boxes).
Are mutant gorillas compulsory as there is one in SOTR as well?
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I think the cross-over came about as a result of the Dust/Achtung Cthulhu RPG from a little while ago.
Weirdly (appropriately) the various genetically engineered primates popular in Weird Wars has a (small) basis in 'fact' - some of Lysenko's (who provided the Soviet Union's 'answer' to Darwinian theory) loopier adherents thought it might be possible to cross breed humans with other primates in order to create a breed of stronger & more obedient soldiers.
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Here's a WG/CG dog-handler for the Brits in K47, given the level of padding he's wearing I'm going to assume it's a big 'dog'.
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Here's a WG/CG dog-handler for the Brits in K47, given the level of padding he's wearing I'm going to assume it's a big 'dog'.
Lockjaw sized?
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(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/wolfenstein/images/1/1f/Kampfhund_1960.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140518213833)
;)
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It has an engine!
(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/21105810_1954494898107734_3548317729764198920_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoiYiJ9&oh=55a1cb13ed1683bb605c9931c6b1066b&oe=5A5C4B71)
Don't think I ever did post a comparison between Die Waffenkammer and Heer 46's Katzchens. Oh well, JTFM's is better is the short story.
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Maybe he's a counter to those german werewolves and russian bearmen?
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Maybe he's a counter to those german werewolves and russian bearmen?
- That would make sense Munindk, the Brits are the only ones lacking a 'monster' unit, perhaps this will be it.
It has an engine!
- that's a relief! I agree that the JTFM version is a little better, coming with crew, stowage & more surface detail (tools etc) - but I can't help prefering the grey resin - whenever I've cast something
in both grey tinted or the uncoloured off-white the grey one looks better, despite there being no difference. (I assume it's because the colour makes the detail stand out more.)
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K47 Stormtroopers.
(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21192830_10154517963036653_5278446564348063159_n.jpg?oh=96021cfd51b24ca7a744ed49bb5dd5c1&oe=5A1963CB)
(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21151261_10154517963061653_3511390195840475651_n.jpg?oh=59040e25caa602d6f698a97a916e05a6&oe=5A1C3E2B)
The WIP of these might have been posted earlier when they were wearing trencoats. These look much better, with more nods to real SS uniforms. I'm not too into the exoskeletons, but luckily they're just on the one arm and part of the their backs, and the metal's soft enough to chip away (as I did with their paras).
Knowing that they'll be priced at £28, or there abouts, the same as the rest of the range. I wouldn't mind a load of those to go along with my similarly styled SS.
Would be better with StG-45s though. Just saying. ;)
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Interesting, are they covered in the new book or are they just version of existing K47 rules?
With the exception of the LMGs why do they need exoskeletons?
With a number of my Westwind Germans showing end of life mouldings, a source of suitable WWW2 Germans will come in handy.
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Pulp Figures have new German Jet Troopers on their front page.
They appear to have a back mounted jet sit wings, goggles and masks and armed with sub machine guns.
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They're in the original K47 book as Shocktroopers. Not much different from regular SS.
Some bollocks about controlling the guns better I'd imagine. Or just for ease of manufacture/ rule of cool. Like more than a few of the K47 design decisions the exoskeletons seem a bit out of place in a WWII environment. "Meh, space goo". They're giving the British EM-2s with under barrelled grenade launchers instead of rifle grenades... ::)
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(https://pulpfigures.com/files/pwm37.jpg)
Youknow those look more period than the K47 paras. Guys are going to break their legs jumping about without anything to deal with the impact on their feet though. :)
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The K47 Stormtroopers are nice, though I wish they looked more amenable to being converted to rifles.
I like the idea of the Brits coming with EM-2 type rifles (especially since the BoB minis of commandos with EM-2's no longer seem to be avavilable).
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The British would be cool. I had an ancient Britain's figure with an EM2, hopefully I will be able to find sometime.
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A couple of new pics of stuff awaiting release - firstly the special give-away mini with the new K47 expansion, a rather cool IJA soldier 'phase-ing' through a wall - an interesting ability (if thats what they do).
Secondly, another look at the finished WW StuG mech from the recent KS, I think it's pretty good, though the central section is perhaps a little too reminiscent of a 40K dreadnought.
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The phase trooper looks more like VSF than WWW2.
The Stug reminds me of single cannon version of the Macross flak walker (the Destroid Defender). Is there something odd about the legs, I keep thinking it has too many joints. Not keen on the base either.
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I like the top half but as above the legs are a bit odd. I like the overall feel of it though
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Those Japanese soldiers would work really well for other settings as well. I can imagine them as Steampunk soldiers, or in a fantasy setting like Numenera. Ah, the same could be said of the rest of the K47 range, even if having them in WWII looks a bit off. :)
Still waiting on that German stuff being released. Hopefully we don't have to wait till next year when the next expansion is out. :(
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Some elderly 1/100 Macross kits extracted from the archaeological dig.
Destroid Tomahawk.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RqQgRMZEtuU/WbVTwOo08AI/AAAAAAAACmY/E1ZWoZ1_YZQMB-sxmB-eiuO_mv3EvdIIQCLcBGAs/s1600/tomahawk-1.png)
Destroid Defender
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9YKaMGAL3fg/WbVW9eJzIAI/AAAAAAAACm0/CjMO8G9xGgo3-sSxPYGDCxeZBZYIdvtZACLcBGAs/s1600/defender-1.png)
PSC Panzer 38(t) for scale.
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Correction, Heer 46's Katzchen still doesn't have an engine with the second version.
(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21457984_1959627254261165_3675537494691728592_o.jpg?oh=8e83ae73c792c90332b6b90270298813&oe=5A14651E)
They say its under the floor. ...In a world where engines are as thick as shoeboxes apparently. I continue to be bemused.
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Lots of nice kit lockers though....
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What is going on with the MGs too? They look like lego guns....
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Lots of nice kit lockers though....
They look like chest freezers.
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Die Waffenkammer's doesn't need all the gap filling either, and comes with crew.
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There are three tiny reactors that power the katzchen with unobtanium. The freezers are sheilding for the reactors! :`
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Most odd, a bit of a clanger in his otherwise excellent range.
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Is anyone ever going to make one in 1/48?
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Is anyone ever going to make one in 1/48?
- I'm afraid at this point I'd have to say don't hold your breath, just keep asking those who already make them.
Are there any 3D files on Shapeways/Thingiverse that could be re-sized? They'd certainly need re-detailing (& replacement tracks), but it'd probably be the only way to get one (other than kitbashing a Tamiya 1/48 Hetzer).
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Looks like the JTFM Lowe has finally ascended the to-do pile, looks very nice combo of CAD (turret & tracks) & skilfull oild-school scratch-building for all of you in the market for monster tanks :)
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Warlord open day has Churchill with MRL, new German walker and the Automated Carrier.
Now if someone can grab the images....
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/warlord-games-new-konflikt-47-tanks.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/warlord-games-new-konflikt-47-tanks.html)
New suits and dogs as well.
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Heer46 have a Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger coming out in February- March next year.
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25550160_2004314689792421_3643620862600803531_n.jpg?oh=c316373680fe687a37ec9ee24e990bcc&oe=5AB4649B)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25552287_2004314746459082_1672477096213886464_n.jpg?oh=6f4414478779ac2603d9f7666a4f2ee2&oe=5AD0A081)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25591684_2004314759792414_8084347809344816112_n.jpg?oh=dac4ecb2318e2f876c2b73a6650c750c&oe=5AB93447)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25552290_2004314783125745_897705671167271903_n.jpg?oh=7746a22f338a0de5f24e627edde158f9&oe=5AC16555)
It looks to be a better fair than their previous Katzchen (Rubicon helped, I guess as they themselves are moving into resin). There doesn't appear to be any detail beneath or inside the turret; presumably as the gun's covering it up. However fitting the crew in there could be a real pain if they're not included with the kit (making an enclosed crew compartment in the field like they did with the US Tank Destroyers , or maybe a mesh screen like the Germans, may be necessary).
Something for all those (dozens) of Italian players out there too:
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25551937_2004273759796514_5985576639681954012_n.jpg?oh=f9f3b2b27d7b38324414d582c8bbd0de&oe=5AB6AB8B)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25550562_2004273783129845_105950076463488722_n.jpg?oh=a59f215137c3adcd7207f44941275efa&oe=5ACE5FA8)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25550066_2004274053129818_5072291194944243859_n.jpg?oh=c791b0a781207e245e9043e0595d1236&oe=5AB8CD7F)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25508108_2004274076463149_18436963824414694_n.jpg?oh=c50d99052f0d92ee275dfbfccff27afa&oe=5ACDEEC7)
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I saw these today, the Waffentrager looks good - the crew fit issues aren't too horrific, given how much you'd be able to see a 'head, shoulders & torso' approach would probably be fine.
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Interesting vehicles.
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Here are some final versions of the new character & class figures from the recent WW KS, & a painted Soviet T49 Mech.
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Thanks.
I have to admit to them not really grabbing my attention (and I am easily distracted).
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Yeah, not super impressed. Reminds me of the gw stuff coming out in the early 90s...
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I don't mind the Stug walker...kinda...
but everything else is below meh :?
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I was pretty disappointed with the Japanese characters sculpt and that's the pne I was most looking forwards to.
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Lucid Eye have Germans with great coats and energy weapons.
https://www.lucideyepublications.com/project-sturm (https://www.lucideyepublications.com/project-sturm)
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Lucid Eye have Germans with great coats and energy weapons.
https://www.lucideyepublications.com/project-sturm (https://www.lucideyepublications.com/project-sturm)
The close-up on the pictures there makes some of them appear as if their hands have melded into their weapons.
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The Bods set does look a bit odd.
The Bods 2 set look like resin figures with metal weapons (and bases), maybe they are the sculpts and the Bods set is a set of resin masters or test casts?
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Seems likely, the description actually states the final stuff should be metal so maybe they've just not yet updated the pictures.
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The mech pilot figures from the recent KS have emerged, along with a finished & painted version of the IJA Type 72 mech.
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I like the Mech pilots, not overly keen on the Mech though.
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Don't like the middle pilot with the large silly pistol waving around.
And the mech is uninspiring
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The mech design reminds me of late 'eighties/early 'nighties battletech after one of the Macross copyright complaints.
Pilots, are they supposed to represent particular nations?
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Yep... hear yall but I lke the meck for the same reasons stated against it (even though im not a GW player or fan) and im ordering the pilots, I already have two others, I use them in WWWII games as what they are.
Anyone know of any other WWWII or WWII such pilots, I want more :o)
Regards
Wolt
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Yep... hear yall but I lke the meck for the same reasons stated against it (even though im not a GW player or fan) and im ordering the pilots, I already have two others, I use them in WWWII games as what they are.
Anyone know of any other WWWII or WWII such pilots, I want more :o)
Regards
Wolt
Me too! Need weird war crew peoples for all my machinery!
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Me too! Need weird war crew peoples for all my machinery!
Crooked Dice Minions are worth a look.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J_HE-ED3Pvs/UOlU6V67tTI/AAAAAAAAAYw/bohP3zpZ1eY/s1600/tankcrew2.png)
Modified with a Hasslefree Thompson SMG and a Man from 3000 pistol (and fighting man heads).
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Crooked Dice Minions are worth a look.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J_HE-ED3Pvs/UOlU6V67tTI/AAAAAAAAAYw/bohP3zpZ1eY/s1600/tankcrew2.png)
Modified with a Hasslefree Thompson SMG and a Man from 3000 pistol (and fighting man heads).
That’s a cracking idea 8)
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It has been a bit quiet on this thread recently.
At Salute I bought the Westwind Stug and Jotun mechs.
Here are the parts for the Stug Mech.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lA1fxIjpbIE/WuX240dWMII/AAAAAAAADrQ/0RVc97Az9dsgig8ivg5XiwcZCKoGBj9rgCLcBGAs/s1600/stugmech2.png)
There are mould marks across a number of the faces (note the ones across the right leg and the pelvis). The choice of an integrated base is disappointing.
The legs are rather strange, suggestions on how they bend?
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d7isi-jAewI/WuX25mBfaHI/AAAAAAAADrU/ufRuidRMG6ADExqgQ9gndUA33fBLPO29wCLcBGAs/s1600/stugmech4.png)
That is the right leg.
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And assembled.
With a Warlord Grizzly for scale.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ktFt0wk80yM/WuefkPSTPCI/AAAAAAAADsI/GbT_kar0zpkIk8_gjf-AJjcQ33EjsXIGQCLcBGAs/s1600/stugmech15.png)
With a Puma for scale.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZIpKUSHPK-U/Wuefj0I6wVI/AAAAAAAADsE/w4X0tokXG04A35ohEs8IpC1RwuMBjD8jACLcBGAs/s1600/stugmech14.png)
With a British Steel suit for scale.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--OgUjoYJeEM/Wuefi7WQThI/AAAAAAAADr4/RXegGQsAejIEPwh0ulr-xDlZWMzDS-bWQCLcBGAs/s1600/stugmech12.png)
And William Killian for scale.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mfptcnZoVsw/WueflSkyQqI/AAAAAAAADsY/4eemnATARc8dPdRGeLRpOej5ZCDLMQ4dQCLcBGAs/s1600/stugmech7.png)
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The StuG Mech looks good, nice & squat & a good size match for the Grizzly. as to how the legs bend...interesting, looks like the leg is thrown forward from the hip, the pistons extend & any other articulation is at the ankle - I'm not sure what they've got against knees...
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They've just released some rather nice officer/nco models for the Brit Galahad armoured suits (plus ones for the US versions). Also a couple of dog handler units, along with some very large London bull terriers (some sort of genetic tomfoolery no doubt) - nice models.
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There's also a new version of the Soviet Mammoth mech (personally I find it a great improvement over the previous T35-ish version, though I still think that the WestWind soviet multi-legged mechs are far better).
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Nice, I think that you can now have a a British Armoured Infantry platoon, so that is good. I like the dog handlers. Not so sure about he dogs.
I agree the Soviet walker is missing something, a pair of legs to start with ^__^.
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Not so sure about he dogs.
I quite like them, but do think that the Hasslefree 'Chip' is a much better sculpt.
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The hassle free dog isn’t an English bull terrier though, I think they got them spot on, if a little larger than they should be
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The Warlord Roman War Dogs are lovely too.
....just saying!
Wolt
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Warlord have also released a preview set of Italian heavy armoured troops for Axis & allies
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/453011601-Konflikt-_47-Defiance-Preview-Pack_grande.jpg?v=1526469864)
Personally I think they have done a great job on these figures
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I have to admit to thinking they are a bit "wombley" for me.
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While I like the armour sculpts (being just slight variations on the existing German & British ones), the Thracian/Murmillo type helmet might be going a bit far...
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I give you... The Hover StuG!!!
It's one of Dreamforge Models Eisenkern range & is rather cool - the only potential problem I can see is that it might be little large - all the Eisenkern models are more 1/48th, their APC was a lovely model, but a bit huge.
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Nice. As you mention, the size (and cost) might be an issue.
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Until recently, if you wanted an E-10 in a wargaming scale around 28mm/1/56 you only had two choices - the excellent JTFM model or you hoped that Gas-O-Line had made some more of their very good 1/48 scale one (but were probably out of luck). Now there's a third option, Dust have produced what looks like a decent model (the pics from Gen Con - if anyone's there & can get better pics I'd certainly appreciate it).
the Dust version (dubbed an E-15) is upgunned with what I assume is a laser, but is otherwise an E-10 in 1/48. I looks as if the model is up to the standard of their other vehicle kits, so pretty good.
Also they displayed some mechs (including one very large one) for their forthcoming IJA range.
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Weird name choice. They could have called it the Donnerslag or something. ...Rather than saying that the new gun weights 5 tonnes. :P
As is there already an existing fake tank with that name.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/panzerpedia/images/2/20/-fake-E-15.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140920003524)
But I'm just complaining for complaining's sake. Its nice to see any of these alternative history games making vehicles that were actual prototypes instead of ones which radically disconnect with reality. It'll likely be closer to 1/48-43rd scale than being suitable for 28mm, but with Achtung Cthulhu being restarted, there's potential for some Weird Wars in 32mm if that's what you're into.
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That tank destroyer looks good, possibly a bit short.
The big suit is pretty neat as well.
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Warlord have pre-orders for a Tiger II with railgun
(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/452410211-German-King-Tiger-X-with-heavy-rail-gun-box-front-RGB.jpg)
And the bipedal Heuschreke mech.
(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/452410209-Heuschrecke-locust-medium-panzermech-07-1.jpg)
The former has external cabling which (in my opinion) is not the right aesthetic, they spent hours tidying up their vehicles even when the battle was outside the factory gates. The turret should just be made larger to accommodate any cabling etc. The rail gun looks nice, not quite sure on the muzzle opening, looks a bit Tau.
The Heuschreke looks like a scaled up Wolverine.
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I'm fine with the Walker, but so far the tanks coming out of that game are kind of crap. Either make a new design integrating the sci-fi weapons or some of the Late/ Post-War prototypes. These older vehicles with the sci-fi weapons are so uninspired. They're barely bothering with modifying the original kits, rather as you said, most of the time at best its just a new gun and some cabling on the side.
I suppose they must be limited on the amount of new pieces that they can include or something. I've no idea why they'd otherwise not make some more inspired tanks. Like say replacing the whole turret, or taking the StuG kit and giving it a whole new casement to hold the new gun (as the Germans did with their actual conversions using older vehicles). This stuff is conversion level, which your average modeller would do, rather than justifiable with the hiked up prices which Clockwork Goblin charge.
Their infantry (well 50/50) and Walkers have so much more going for them.
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I do like that locust. be a fun little change to paint.
and does anyone with experience of the king tiger reckon it comes with the parts to make a regular turret too?
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I also think that the Locust is a nice looking mech design, will be picking one of these up on its release.
@JamesValentine - I would think that the Tiger II/railgun kit should provide both options, as the other K47 tank conversions all consist of the complete plastic kit plus an alternate resin turret.
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@JamesValentine - I would think that the Tiger II/railgun kit should provide both options, as the other K47 tank conversions all consist of the complete plastic kit plus an alternate resin turret.
Nice. I did think after asking to just look for the sprues. Since if the turret sprue has hull parts they'll have to include it.
Which I see now it does.
More parts is always good. Even if it's rarely used.
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While idly scrolling through the Dust FB page, I came across these renders of what I assume are upcoming vehicle releases: an E-10, a 'normal' E-15 to go with their laser armed one, an E-25 based Leopard light tank, an Auto-Union type Katzchen (with the simplified interleaved suspension), an X7 A/T missile on a carriage & a trio of E-100 based super-heavies - a twin 8.8cm flak version, an E-100 Jagdpanzer & an E-100 with the Rinaldi turret (a fictitious design knocked up by the well known scale modeller Mike Rinaldi.
Pleased as I am to see these (particularly the E-100s where no decent 28mm-ish model exists) that they'll be 1/48 (Dusts scale of choice) means that I probably won't be adding them to my collection - however, I know lots of posters to this thread do prefer 1/48, so it's good news for them. I'm afraid that I can't find any hint of when they might be available, htough they have been on a roll as late.
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I think I just made a happy mess in my underwear... :o
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I think the Heuschrecke is nice in comparison to the Thor and the Spinne. Finally something that can go boxing with the american walkers. Instead of the slow looking six legged walkers. o_o
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E-100 you say?.... hmm...
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Yes & I'll say it again, "E-100"
(I probably spoke too soon with regards to not being interested because it'll be 1/48, as it'll be the only real game in town - & their vehicle models are generally pretty good & it's the Rinaldi turret, &,&,&...) :D
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E-100 you say?.... hmm...
Go on, you know you want to....
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Of course Rich, should you happen to find you've been sleep scratch building for JTFM again I would much, much, much rather have one of those :-*
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The artillery piece may work for 1/56th at least. And well, I suppose us smaller scale modellers can't really complain, as we already have most of the rest available. Though of course, if someone were to make an E-100 in 1/56th (which isn't 3D printed in a material which makes it a bit of an arse to cut up...) then nobody would complain. Well, our bank accounts might.
Dust seems to be an odd range when it comes to stockists. For the short term after a new release you can find their products, but months later most retailers other than their official website show no stock. I was looking for one of those PT-47 amphibious tractors yesterday and other than a few sellers on Ebay (out of the US) nobody seemed to have one. Which is a pity, as from what I recall the actual Dust website charged ridiculous shipping costs. :/
(Though anyone in the US who uses 1/48th scale vehicles will find a nice set of conversion sets for real world vehicles in 1/48th too)
(http://www.dustgame.com/ufiles/Dust-DTEL002-01.jpg)
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Suggests they are producing short runs of the kits and that's it.
The E-100 master (should I do it) will be a mix of 3d printed resin (gun, mantlet, wheels, side skirts, back deck) and plasticard plus my standard 1mm MDF for the tracks.
Resin will give me better detail on those bits that need it, the rest of the hull is jsut big flat sheets.
I could 3d print the tracks but while they would be pretty they would be a pain in the arse to actually print and then very fiddly to assemble. The 1mm laser engrave/cut works well enough for wargaming purposes I believe.
Obvs then off to Die Waff for casting in Jeffs finest off white stuff.
Going to be a slow burn though as the nipper is a massive time-sink...
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The Dust website does give off the boutique feel, as would I wonder if that spat of Dust kits being massively discounted a few years ago due to a lack of interest effected their bottom line and impacted future releases (which I should note, locally Konflikt 47 kits have been on sale for ages).
Currently the only option for an E-100 in 1/56th, and they may not even be selling it anymore, is that upscaled 1/100 3D print from Special Artizan Service Miniatures. And I can imagine that you can do better than that. Hell if Warlord released an E-100 your work would still likely be better. :)
Tsk, but I'm already getting ahead of myself by wondering if Jeff would put out some variants too... I've not forgotten that I was going to make a E-100 Krokodil (the thing with a drain pipe for a barrel), and a kit with removable side skirts would be appreciated for one of those. With that Die Waffenkammer would have most of the E-Series (if we can really place a full line up for that, as from what I can remember that also included the Panzer 38D and Panzer III/IV at one point or other). ...Not to say that there's anything to stop Die Waffenkammer from releasing more "what if" kits. Hopefully all that Konflikt 47 buzz was a boost in sales at the least.
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My plan would be for seperate bits of skirt probably. Or maybe just make them single piece for ease of manufacture. But seperate.
Did the proposed krokodil (I know it's realluy impractical!) not have them? Not really looked...
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With the Krokodil it was more a personal taste thing that it wouldn't have those silly looking bulbous skirts. As far as I'm aware the StuG E-100 wasn't even out of the early discussion phase by the end of the war, so anyone wanting to make one could do whatever they wanted. The skirts look dumb enough that having missing panels wouldn't help make them look any better, as do they look bolted on with some substantial supports (presumably as they were designed to be repeatedly re-installed), so I wouldn't think there'd be much call for a modular set of skirts as opposed to you doing them as a single piece.
However, the big question would be the toss up between the front mounted casement - which the community tends to go with - or a rear mounted on. The later was where the thinking was at the time for other proposed StuGs, however, the forward casement is more iconic of German tanks, and where post-war development went. Of the two I'd probably go for the suspension breaking frontal gun (which would help to emphasise that 17cm monster...).
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Yes seen that with that monster gun waaaaay out in front!
Daft but as you say that JagtTiger profile is iconic.
Plan would be:
Tracks (seperate to the hull)
3d printed sprokets, idlers and wheels (repeatability and decent profiles not jsut engraved or layers)
1mm MDF Tracks as they are robust and detaield enough for tracks (Plus I am happy making them like that)
Suspension and hull side attached to provide rigidity
Hull
1mm plasticard with internal bulkheads (Standard) 3d printed back deck and rear details
The E-100 turret/possible maus turret:
1mm plasticard with composite plastic tube and 3d printed barrel (and filler...)
3d printed mantlet
Skirts
3d printed in sections (Ease of printing) - maybe glue them together to reduce part count after.
The 3d printed stuff will be on my resin printer and at 0.05mm resolution then sanded to remove any residual lines (Not much!)
Krokodil would then be a new hull and gun.
1mm plasticard, same back deck and rear details.
composite gun.
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While the Krokodil was a complete fabrication (made up by Herbert Cance apparently) & only a StuG E-100 version was ever suggested, (though no plans exist so who knows what it would have looked like) the Amusing Hobby Version is as good an invention as any (yes Queegs beautifully painted front heavy version also looks great, just ignore the physics).
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Yes it also puts the gun trunnion in the middle. We'll see how I get on.
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You'll have to ressurect your IS7 (or an IS4) project to counter all these monsters... just saying :)
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Did the Ojekt 279 instead :D
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The E-100 looks impressive, liking the turret on the superstructure. :-*
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I think that claiming this fits in a '47 timeline might be a bit of a stretch, but it is undoubtedly cool. It's another preview for forthcoming dust stuff (which also includes an E-50, a Tortoise and a US T-28 spg - but as the latter two already have excellent 1/56 models by JTFM & this forum's own Rich H, and the E-50 looks soon to get one from the same, I'll pass).
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As did RichH make one of those as well, but I don't he had it cast. It would work for a The Man in the High Castle setting perhaps, but yes, is definitely too far along for WWII's level of technology (a personal gripe when it comes to alt-history setting's deciding to suddenly jump tech 20, 40 or 70 + years on because "those wacky Nazis". The bloody concepts weren't around, let alone the technology...).
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Someone called :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/31/1107-110318151718-31829317.jpeg)
Build log here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=106263.120
I got as far as printing the E-100 and drawing the E-50 but my internal project butterfly fluttered off and got distracted... I really need to reprint the E-100 tracks and turret and send it and the 279 to Jeff.
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Sorry to say I missed the build log for that wonderful Object 279 somehow, glad you pointed it out :) As to the E-50/75/100 - hurry up ! :)
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Really mustn't get distracted....
But this would be easy enough given I've got the E-75 chassis:
(http://i.imgur.com/VFmWhyx.jpg)
28cm recoiless gun?!
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/german-tank-based-railway-guns
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I initially thought that was fired while being supported by the two tanks (being in the rear tank would make you think you had got on the wrong side of the sergeant).
That is very silly.
So when will you have one to show us?
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Pleasingly mad, but we're rather spoiled for choice when it comes to ridiculous attempts at SPG's/siege guns, how about 'Project NM' - three Tiger 1 chassis holding up a frame mounting three 12.8 cm guns, topped off with shed...
(Someone has had a go at that one though)
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Pleasingly mad, but we're rather spoiled for choice when it comes to ridiculous attempts at SPG's/siege guns, how about 'Project NM' - three Tiger 1 chassis holding up a frame mounting three 12.8 cm guns, topped off with shed...
(Someone has had a go at that one though)
Hans, let's put a shed on this -in case- someone -might- spot this in the open and mistakes it for a lumbering siege gun. lol
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I thought that this project may have been put on hold, but Company B have released their E-75. It's a decent looking kit (with 8.8cm & 12.8cm gun options). With the JTFM one also in the works we're almost spoiled!
(pic from Coy.B site)
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My intent is (once I get time) I'll reprint the E-100 in toto and E-50/75 hull with E-50 and E-75 tracks. I still need to add tools to the hulls. The Object 279 will also go for casting.
The E-50 hull will be compatible with the existing JTFM turrets for the TII and Schmalturm.
I've a few other bits to finish off first.
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Dust have heralded another addition to their E-series, the (entirely fictional) E-100 Krokodil.
Again, it'll be 1/48 so I'll probably pass, but I imagine, if their other kits are anything to go by, it'll be good.
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That thing has always been too far down the impractical scale for me.
The Hetzers and Jadgpanzers had problems with front suspension loads - this thing is just too impractical.
Shift the gun trunnion nearer the middle of the tank (Like the Jagdtiger) and it'd be better but it would loser the 'Jagdpanther' look.
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That thing has always been too far down the impractical scale for me.
I agree, the design's never a runner - there was an E-100 StuG mentioned in period paperwork, but no design either survived or existed in the first place.
Personally I think the 'Jagdpanther II' has more going for it as a usable model on the tabletop, essentialy being a (slightly) lighter Jagdtiger.
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Ooo.... I like it. I have the Heer 15mm variants and love them.
Agreed on the engineering aspects but it is 'what if' WWWII.
I have the same scale issue, I have opted for 1/56 vehicles, shame.
But if I had gone for 1/48 it would be on my wants list.
Wolt
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Hmm... looks at CAD of Pak44.... Looks at CAD of E-75 hull... a plan emerges form the murk.... ;D
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Hmm... looks at CAD of Pak44.... Looks at CAD of E-75 hull... a plan emerges form the murk....
Music, (probably something Wagnerian) to my ears :) There is, of course, another option - (though most likely also completely fictional) - the E-50 'Eber'. This has the more conventional Jagdpanther layout:
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Tendency is always to up-gun them massively but in realisty they weren't. The Panther went from 75mm to the 88 on the Jagdpanther
Stick the 88 on that and you have a Jagd E-50 - Cheaper and quicker to manufacture than the E-50. A direct replacement for the JagdPanther.
The E-series were afterall replacement easier to build tanks not necessarily better tanks
Use the forntal armour from the E-75 and a new superstructure.
Not sure about the bolted on nature of it, the hull is all welded but I approve of the overlapping plate on the superstrucure to avoid the weakpoint on the side.
This is the 'what if' the war carried on a few more years with eht E series in production but ultimately the same problem of resources reared its head.
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No idea how long these have been out, but Heer 46 are doing some German Fallschirmjàger with Late War weaponry (set of 3). The scope and IR light are a little small, and lack power cables. Its cool they did paratroopers with this gear instead of SS though. There's also an upcoming range of Fallschirmjàger in Winter gear which are definitely something I haven't seen in 28mm either.
https://www.heer46shop.de/49402//nighthunters
(https://www.heer46shop.de/productpics/d8a91cc84214a921670001ea385c2e9a/nighthunters-1.jpg)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60273862_2293537054203515_6726050469233295360_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-1.fna&oh=da3f54ee44eb00f17692036ceb37195b&oe=5D59A1F0)
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Interesting.
I see what you mean about the IR illuminator and the scope.
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I should have added the amendment "in typical Heer 46 fashion". They seem to be close, but not quite there with their alt-history designs. They're the company who made a Katzchen APC without an engine. ;D
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I should have added the amendment "in typical Heer 46 fashion". They seem to be close, but not quite there with their alt-history designs. They're the company who made a Katzchen APC without an engine. ;D
Of fond memory....
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...I still haven't painted that damn thing. :P
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They're nice, I agree the IR light is too small though. The missing cabling is easy enough to add with some wire though, and should be better scaled to the minis than something thick enough to cast reliably.
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Figures inspired by the new Wolfenstein games. Pretty much the whole range of infantry - barring the heavies / and not many vehicles. They don't look half bad.
https://www.gadzooksgaming.com/collections/the-iron-order
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0788/3475/products/Afrika_Korps_with_Rifle_1024x1024.jpg?v=1558233107)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0788/3475/products/Commander_with_Shotgun_50be0c65-015f-476c-b0bc-accbbbce5496_1024x1024.jpg?v=1558234602)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0788/3475/products/Kommando_1024x1024.jpg?v=1558235150)
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Interesting. They would make nice period "Texas Cheerleaders" as well.
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Warlord finally release some new Commonwealth units
The Rift Tech Grenadiers
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/452010602-K47-British-Grenadiers.jpg?v=1560440324)
& the Merlin heavy Walker
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/452410608-K47-British-Merlin-heavy-walker2.jpg?v=1560441767)
I love the Grenadiers, still unsure on the Merlin though.
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I'd point out that these are armed with Thorpe EM-1 rifles. Which isn't the ideal choice for a British Assault Rifle in this period, but perhaps as erroneous as the AKM the Soviets have. Ideally they'd have Korsac EM-1s, which were developed from 1945 to 47, as in another case of technology somehow developing faster than possible (like the AK) the real Thorpe EM-1 didn't see a change to the configuration it appears in here till 1947; so must have seriously rushed development time to appear in use in 1947.
I can't place the goggles. The British did have Type E "Tabby" Night Vision Goggles in service, however they had longer tubes and a different mounting system. These look much more like the No1 Mk1 Goggles of the 70s-albeit simpler-, but NVGs aren't an area I have knowledge on. If they are fictional they'd look better with the 70s goggle's cloth covering over the wires to make them look a bit cruder.
Oh, and I see a heavy weapon and ammo bearer, but who's the Sergeant supposed to be?
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I was wondering if the EM1 / EM2 saw action in Korea?
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The EM-2 wasn't adopted long enough to see much production. So no it saw no combat service. Some were converted into other intermediate cartridges later on for further testing, but Britain was already committed to the FAL by that point.
Its just a pity the British Military had a team of monkeys with no firearms development experience create a new rifle based on the AR-18 instead of modernizing the EM-2. Nowadays the Americans looking at a similar cartridge to the one the EM-2 was chambered in for future service rifles.
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I do like the Grenadiers and since the bobminis commandos vanished, they're now the only option for EM-2's (unless you want to kitbash them).
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I do like the Grenadiers and since the bobminis commandos vanished, they're now the only option for EM-2's (unless you want to kitbash them).
Caliver books/Miniature Figures have the bob minis now
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=14&CategoryID=88&SubCategoryID=373
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Those British troops look interesting. They might be the first non suit infantry from K47 I buy.
Is that a completely new walker? What is the duck egg blue structure above the pilot?
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This one's a British Walker, rather than an American one like previous Allied releases. And a bit more modern within the setting. As the British use robots this integrates an AI with a human pilot, which is what the turret above the crew compartment's supposed to be. Presumably to assist in aiming and controlling the gun.
Its very silly.
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This one's a British Walker, rather than an American one like previous Allied releases. And a bit more modern within the setting. As the British use robots this integrates an AI with a human pilot, which is what the turret above the crew compartment's supposed to be.
Well they at least have got away from the 'seventies comics' weird war robot aesthetic.
Presumably to assist in aiming and controlling the gun.
So not for making the tea? ^__^
Its very silly.
As long as it is the right kind of silly.
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Is that a completely new walker? What is the duck egg blue structure above the pilot?
Yes it’s the new British Heavy Walker, it’s like a Head I thought that it might be where the commander sits
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/452410608-K47-British-Merlin-heavy-walker.jpg?v=1560441767)
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Like this one
but the rivet styling on konflict 47 mechs doesn't do it for me.
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Might repurpose one of those for my Russians. Those german locust mechs need someone to slug it out with! lol
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Many thanks for the tip of where to find the bobminis commandos Aircav.
I'd also assumed that the mech's 'head' was indicative of some level of automation, like their robot infantry.
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Here are a couple more German vehicles heralded for release (they say Christmas), their final E-10 variant, a Flammpanzer, also sporting an X-7 ATGM & a turretless TIger I (looks akin to the many APC conversions on obsolete chassis common to the IDF), also sporting the flamethrower/ATGM combo. Both appear the typically nice 1/48 models we're used to from them (which also rules them out for me, but since Rich and JTFM seem to be filling the 'what-if' gaps nicely I'll end my whinge there... )
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Interesting idea, but for Weird War I prefer 1/56 as well.
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I can't say that I agree with the design of the Tiger. Removing a turret to make the hull more cramped, instead of putting the weapon in there. The net result of the conversion seems to be a lower profile and not much else. They could have even gone so far as to keep the existing turret and add the new weapon (like the Churchill Crocodile) and just hand waved the lack of space / where the hell the ammo goes.
They're likely trying to get away from the Tiger design and do something more modern. As a one off side project fine. Though I'd rather have seen a dedicated rocket carrying vehicle which made a bit more sense - not that I'll be buying any of these anyway. Other than for its armour, sticking a flame thrower in a Tiger seems weird when other smaller and less valuable chassis are available; especially now that its lost its turret and become pretty much only an engineering vehicle with limited functionality.
...Ah, not that many of these Dust designs have made sense in the past. Whatever its not like it would have been for me in that scale to begin with anyway, and those with less picky tastes are probably glad for conversion fodder like this (someone must be lapping up all those after market kits on the Dust site - of the owner just likes making them...).
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It would seem that Heer 46 is throwing its hat into the ring and is to produce a 1/56 E-100. It looks like the initial release will be an 'Ausf B' version (with the fictional Mike Rinaldi turret). The pic shows the hull and tracks - the former looks fine (what is visible anyway), but the tracks/running-gear look rather like the 15mm version blown up - the tracks are rather thick and a little lacking in wheel detail.. It's early days though, and the design could change I suppose, but as is, I would imagine the Rich H/JTFM version will be the superior.
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Interesting.
What is surprising is the running gear, especially after the recent joint venture with Rubicon.
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I noticed that... the do look very poor. ???
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Perhaps Rich hasn't been public enough with work on his E-100? Or they think their own will be marketable. Regardless that meets the quality of their Katzchens.
I'd much prefer seeing the company work on smaller vehicles, like further upgrade kits for Rubicon's models. How about some Panzer IV variants for that new Rubicon kit? Sloped hulls, etc?
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Heer 46 have FB'd a pic of an alternate turret for their E-100, the Krupp Maus II version - it does rather look like they're reproducing the 1/100 version (which also offered the same two options).
Again I can't help but feel that Rich's/JTFM's version is going to turn out the better of the two - though if Heer 46 were to fix their tracks/running gear, (they really do look like they've just blown up the 1/100 ones without reducing the track thickness or adding the detail necessary for a larger scale) it would at least provide an option for those who find it difficult to get JTFM products.
Still, he is offering the Rinaldi turret version (perhaps it'll be available as a seperate item if asked for nicely?).
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I'd rather the company focus on smaller vehicles or conversion kits than this expensive Super Heavy. The moulds won't be cheap. The thought process must be that they already have the files for one so it won't be as difficult a job.
Their rocket platform seems to still be OOP. I contacted the company years ago, and they said they'd make it on demand. However I stropped receiving responses after a while. :/
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It may have been discussed before here. There's a few of those companies selling 3D printed models who make alternative history WWII models. Obviously this is with the caveat that their method of printing doesn't always provide the highest quality of detail, but they're an option.
https://fastarmour3dprinting.com/
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/3dprinterchick/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
https://thetankfactory.uk/index.php?rt=product/product&path=68_77&product_id=218
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The Heer 46 E-100 kickstarter is now live - www.kickstarter.com/projects/1873378485/the-war-is-not-over-e-100-panzer-in-1-56 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1873378485/the-war-is-not-over-e-100-panzer-in-1-56) , I have my reservations about the model (it looks like a blown up version of his 15mm one - looks fine at that scale, but the detail is lacking at 28mm/1/56, plus the rather over-thick tracks do it no favours), and find it rather disappointing given the generally excellent quality of his other products. Still, until Rich H's excellent version is released by JTFM, it's the 'best' offering in 1/56 available.
Its available with either the Krupp turret designed for the Maus II, or the fictional turret invented by the scale modeller Micheal Rinaldi (which I'm a fan of) - also the fictional 'Krokodil' Jadgpanzer is an option.
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Yeah I'd looked at that, but didn't see any reason to back it. Their E-100's already been discussed here and as you say Richard Humble's one has been concluded as having better details. Its my feeling that the project went ahead as they had a file there already. I'd have prefer the company to be producing vehicles which aren't otherwise on the market or conversion kits.
Its like they seen Die Waffenkammer did the other E-series vehicles and wanted to complete that line before they did an E-100. To me smaller vehicles would be more marketable. But I guess they're aiming for the wow factor with such a large vehicle. Meanwhile I think that had they gone with more Waffentragers or Italian tanks they'd be a better service to the community (seriously, someone make a P26/40 already!).
Oh, and I'm not sure why they list only the Krokodil as speculative, as the other version of the turret available is fake too. Ah well.
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To me smaller vehicles would be more marketable
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Sadly I've no idea when the JTFM version is likely to surface, which only leaves this or the (soo-to-be-released) 1/48 version from Dust.
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I'm making a Panzer 38(t) with Panzer IV turret right now actually (ah, rather than the 38(t) Starr or 38(d) with a Panzer IV turret which were also proposed...). Whilst it wouldn't be an exact match to the real vehicle, you could probably get away with sticking a Panzer IV turret (with a modified commander's hatch) onto Rubicon's recce Hetzer conversion set.
Die Waffenkammer recce version of the E-10 - armed with a 20mm cannon in a turret - may be a respectable option for a '46 light tank too. Even if the Germans were planning on doing away with turreted light tanks and using the E-10 / E-25 for that role.
Respectively though a company which already have access to 38(t) based tanks could get away with mixing and matching their existing kits to make a few of those paper panzers. Or as modellers just buy Rubicon's Hetzer and make whatever you feel like. I mean I'm also making a Ardelt Waffentrager using the tracks from that kit as well (its on hiatus as I'm not approaching week 4 of waiting for Heer46 to even send out my order. God they always take forever :`).
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I reckon the problem is usually people go for iconic vehicles. And as some but not all wargamers have interest in history some vehicles don't get miniatures because of their special/rare/unique character. There's the odd good one, like the armed Bedford truck Warlord Games did. But then again, some things, like for instances T-34's armed with Flakvierlings and such don't have models in scales as 28mm, as people will usually just set about converting themselves.
Often there's also prices involved, like say with the Maus in 28mm that retails at 50 pounds, so people usually wait for sales or just plain and simple kitbash. And at times I prefer a good kitbash, makes things look more tailored to the person that created it and so on and forth.
Part from that I might have a look at either side!
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It'd fit the small(ish), cheap(ish) AFV slot for '46/weird games, essentially a PzIV substitute
That is what I am using the Carro Armato P43 (Bis) for (though it is nearer a Panther).
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Indeed, a points-cheap medium for weird war would be welcome, as in the games I usually play (SotTR & Achtung Cthulhu) anything bigger than a PzIV tends to be a points sink - my Maus's have spent more time as static scenery or objectives than being pushed around a table, hence my desire for a 'cheap' what-if tank like the 38d.
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Didn't see this mentioned. Seems that along with the E-100, Heer 46 is finally getting around to selling some of the whifs their name pertains to (still no E-50 like they use on their site's background image...).
Based on their other stuff it may not hold up to the existing Die Waffenkammer E Series vehicles. However, they're another option, and a being a European based seller doesn't hurt either. We'll have to see how this stuff is priced to truly compare this stuff to the existing vehicles from Die Waffenkammer though (which are priced as a niche product).
We are working further on the E-series. In our next update we can show you some pictures of the production of the E-100. The E-25 master is printing now at the moment and we've already begun with the E-10! This one was planned with an elevation control to sink the whole hull and to create a lower silhouette when lurking. For this we have designed the tracks so you can turn them around to keep both options.
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/104846524_2610412989182585_5752500925385787276_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=LOuekF-MgIsAX_cQKxb&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=05c0c26496b6bcc93d460c09d921e081&oe=5F32F379)
(and off topic, I finished that 38t with Panzer IV turret months ago... No of course I haven't gotten around to taking pictures ::) )
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Would be great to have a lot more in 15mm
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Just a tease from Heer46. Another Waffentrager is coming to their site (on the right of the image).
Edit: Oh and whilst any prototype vehicles are cool to see, it does seem odd that nobody's made the Krupp-Ardelt Waffentrager which actually saw production and combat. Heer46 do the gun already (which I bought and have been using to build the vehicle from).
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/109946567_2628357304054820_698274444570616209_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=fTmgKPO3AMUAX82tZwr&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=f601f535d4b3e18cb1644469de6107dc&oe=5F42B802)
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So what are the other two?
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An Sd.Kfz 247 - which Heer46 already sells, they're just getting a restock - , and some large scale artillery piece (the Germans had that many that I'm not even going to attempt working out which one this is). The same thing goes with the waffentrager; there were that many that I won't bother checking what it is till it hits the Heer46 site.
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Thanks.
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Heer46 E-25 master's been printed. They'll be availabe in 1/100 and 1/56.
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/116911261_2642233282667222_6698108070861471486_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=yrme6-vPIowAX8ACSS_&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=058452f0bf8a14deecfee0acac306787&oe=5F554D98)
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It looks decent, on a par with the JTFM offering (the tracks might actually have slightly better detail on the treadplates - or at least exaggerated so you can see it).
It would seem that it was at least created with 28mm - 1/56 in mind & detailed appropriately, certainly better than blowing up a 15mm mini.
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Neat.
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And another Waffentrager from Heer46. On sale on the website now.
(https://www.heer46shop.de/productpics/7e0acc1e0f619c6355f9205ca0f5cd70/128_cm_pak_44_auf_waffentrager_krupp_1_1_56_-1.jpg)
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That’s rather nice, I hope he produces some gun crew for it, though I suppose you could adapt the WG plastic Marder ones.
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It does make me wonder why companies don't sell seperate crew figures as often. Great Escape Games have many, but others not so much. It'd be nice if Rubicon were to throw together some more sets - as they have the STL files there, they just need reposing. Or rather just sell the already seperate crew sprues which come with their kits by themselves...
Warlord has a nice set of figures for a Pak 40 which would be suitable for these late war vehicles. I may sneak in one for my own Ardelt Waffentrager. Though to be honest its more sitting figures which would be useful - which isn't that common a pose. Ive considered using some of Offensive Miniatures tank riders actually. Though for however many companies do seperate crews, finding the right poses for a particular model, then having them all with the same proportions seems like more hassle than it should be.
But folk like their tanks more than they do working on the crews it seems. Or at least a vehicle's simpler to model than alternative crew figures. Most modellers are probably fine with what comes in the box, and wouldn't even consider trying to source say a Soviet crew for an American tank. And those that do want that sort of thing either settle, or convert what's available.
* This has been another of Wyrmalla's scheduled rants. ::)