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Title: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 25, 2009, 05:13:05 PM
Thanks to the Prof for entrusting me with Season 3 of the LPL.

I’ll do my best to live up to his high standards of impartiality, wisdom, sense of fair play and Teutonic efficiency  ;)

The rules are the same as seasons one and two, with the following two adjustments:

1.   Entries to any round must be received by 07.00 GMT on the Sunday before the next round opens on Monday morning. This is because I’m an IT dummy, so I’d really appreciate each Sunday to sort everything out ready for the Monday.

2.   We’re introducing a ‘pixel-limit’ – this was actually in the rules already, but I think a lot of people ignored it! Sadly, there won’t always be time to resize lots of entries in photoshop, so it would be really helpful if all competitors can resize their own images before submitting them. This means they can be uploaded straight into the competition pages without any work in photoshop. For season 3 of the LPL, the maximum image size will therefore be 800 pixels high x 800 pixels wide, which is just about right for a web page image.
Your images can be smaller than this if you like - but not bigger.

(If anyone is unsure how to resize an image, I’ll post a quick tutorial on how to do this using a common programme like Microsoft Digital Image).

Apart from that, all you have to do is paint a team with at least five figures, take a picture of it, and email it to me at lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk

All other rules remain as shown at:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=2399

Please do take the time to read or re-read this thread and make sure you are familiar with the rules...



Bonus Points

Once again, bonus points will be scored for newly-painted teams - which means previously unpublished ones.
(In other words, groups of figures which have not been shown before, either here or on other forums).

You can enter old teams if you like - but if they’ve been pictured online or in print before - no bonus points.

Please tell me when you send me your entry if it’s a ‘new’ team or an ‘old’ one.
 
Please also clearly state the name of your team / entry.



Bonus Rounds

Once again there will be super-bonus rounds in Round 1, Round 5 and Round 10.

The bonus themes will be:

Round 1 – Germans

Yes, in honour of the homeland of the LAF, paint some Germans and get 10 extra bonus points. From Teutobergerwald to Frederick the Great. The Franco-Prussian War, German East Africa, and World Wars One and Two. Not forgetting of course, weird, zombie or undead Germans. In short, there are a whole lot of Germans to choose from!

(Just to be on the safe side though, may I ask anyone thinking of entering a team from the Nazi era, to please bear in mind this forum's rules on the use of symbols prohibited under German law. See http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=7650.0)

Round 5 – Saddle up!

We don’t see too many horses around here, so bonus points in round 5 will be awarded to teams with five or more mounted figures. They don’t have to be regular cavalry – they can be tribesmen, cowboys, reivers or rough riders. Or any type of uniformed cavalry.
If you really can't bring yourself to attempt horses, then other real and fantasy animal mounts will be permitted - so wargs, camels, and so on.
And because we all know painting cavalry is quite an undertaking, there are 15 bonus points riding on this round.

Round 10 – the Lost World…

Paint a team of five or more Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, aboriginals, skraelings, tribals, pygmies, or other primitive inhabitants of a lost world and get 10 big hairy bonus points.
Paint a team of newly discovered primitives or prehistoric survivals and a team of five or more Lost World explorers and adventurers and get 20 bonus points.
Paint a team with at least five of each (primitives and adventurers) and add a large dinosaur, woolly mammoth, giant ape, or similar prehistoric leviathan, and get a monster 30 bonus points!



Registration and Deadlines

The first round of season 3 will start on Monday, April 20, 2009.
This gives everyone plenty of time to get painting!  :D

All participants for round 1 must have entered their picture(s) prior to that date; all pictures received after 07:00 GMT on Sunday 19 April will enter play in the second round.

Round Durations for season 3 will be:

Round 1 (League Start) April 20 – April 26 (Bonus)
Round 2 April 27 – May 3
Round 3 May 4 – May 10
Round 4 May 11 – May 17
Round 5 May 18 – May 24 * (Bonus)
Round 6 May 25 – May 31 
Round 7 June 1 – June 7
Round 8 June 8 – June 14
Round 9 June 15 – June 21
Round 10 (Season 3 Finals) June 22 – June 28 (Bonus)

*= Final registration for Season 3. New participants may enter Season 3 until the end of Round 5, the deadline being 07:00 on Sunday May 24th. Any entries from new challengers after that date will have to wait for the start of the next season.


And finally, I humbly offer one piece of advice to would-be contenders…

My experience here and in other painting competitions is that your choice of subject, how you shoot and present that subject, and the clarity of your photography, are all as important as the paint job itself.

Worth thinking about…  :)

Good luck, viel gluck, bonne chance and buena suerte!

Richard / Captain Blood


Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 25, 2009, 06:21:31 PM
As I've expressed before, joy that it's taking place.  Thanks for your participation.  Joy, as well, that the first round is some way off.   :)  I wonder if I have any Germans?  This might be exactly the excuse I need to order those zepellin trupen from Pulp Figures.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on February 25, 2009, 06:31:22 PM
800x800? I suppose it depends on your monitor settings, but pics that big don't fit on the forum pages when viewed on my PC. 600 wide is about the biggest I can get away with.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 25, 2009, 07:36:27 PM
800x800? I suppose it depends on your monitor settings, but pics that big don't fit on the forum pages when viewed on my PC. 600 wide is about the biggest I can get away with.

Hmmm. Interesting...

My pic below is 800 pixels wide x 550 pixels high.
Can a few people let me know if they can see all of it okay, or whether they get a scroll bar?
I don't think height is too much of a problem as we're all used to scrolling up and down - it's side to side that's not so good...

As you say, Plynkes, presumably monitor screen size makes a difference...

But if 800 proves too wide, we can reconsider the width limit  :)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/CGreduced.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on February 25, 2009, 07:45:04 PM
Damn it, I just have some "Germans" on the painting desk. But I don't think I can hold them back until April as soon as they are finished. ;D
Regarding the pic: I'm fine with that - both wideness and content.  :-*
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 25, 2009, 07:52:54 PM
Bloody Excellent!

Great choice of bonus rounds as far as I'm concerned.

Though you might consider 0600 GMT on Sunday so the Yanks have all of Saturday to finish and submit their entry.  Pixel limit is also fine for me.

Anyway, whatever... Thanks Captain, for taking on a darn difficult task.

Looking forward to Season Three!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on February 25, 2009, 07:59:05 PM
That doesn't fit on my screen, Captain. I have to go up a few resolution levels to get it to, and now all the text looks weird and I'm sure will give me a headache.  ???

What resolutions do other folks use? Mine is set at 1024x768, and as I said before, I need to restrict pics to about 600 pixels in width (more like 610 actually) for them to appear on the LAF without a scroll bar. Am I stuck in the Dark Ages of screen resolutions? If so then don't worry about the 800x800 thing!  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 25, 2009, 08:00:35 PM
Though you might consider 0600 GMT on Sunday so the Yanks have all of Saturday to finish and submit their entry.  

This is a good idea, and it probably wouldn't change the amount of time actually spent working on pictures either.  In either case, when you wake up in the morning, the pictures are waiting for you.

And I can see the image just fine.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on February 25, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
By the way, great to see this up and running again. I can't wait for it to start.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Westfalia Chris on February 25, 2009, 09:03:58 PM
That doesn't fit on my screen, Captain. I have to go up a few resolution levels to get it to, and now all the text looks weird and I'm sure will give me a headache.  ???

What resolutions do other folks use? Mine is set at 1024x768, and as I said before, I need to restrict pics to about 600 pixels in width (more like 610 actually) for them to appear on the LAF without a scroll bar. Am I stuck in the Dark Ages of screen resolutions? If so then don't worry about the 800x800 thing!  :)

I never thought I´d be able to say this but "nya nya, my screen´s bigger than yours!" lol Seriously, I *think* that during the last two years or so, the "standard" screen resolution has slowly increased to 1280x800 pixels. Of course, my old desktop PC still uses 1024x768, too.

I´d support the 800 maximum, too. On the larger-resolution screens, 600s/640s get bit tiny. Or we are all just spoiled IT brats. lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on February 25, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
That would explain it. This PC has been running about five years (and the monitor is nine years old and still going strong!). I'm not one of those types who replaces their computer at the drop of a hat. I wait until it doesn't work any more, or smoke starts coming out of the back.  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on February 25, 2009, 09:29:37 PM
800 is fine for me either way but do you have the user info displayed down the left margin? may make a difference?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: vikotnik on February 25, 2009, 10:21:57 PM
Captain, thank You very much for setting up this competition!

I hope I will be able to enter this time, really looking forward to it even if I would not take part in it.

I am doing everything on a laptop anyway, so I am quite used to scrollbars. Thus, pictures with the size of 800 pixels are completely OK for me.
Plus: A bigger pic offers more to see, does it not?

Look at the photo the Captain has posted. Three Horses! :o I do not even have one painted horse miniature!
Seriously, brilliant pic and wonderful paint jobs as usual, Captain.


Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on February 25, 2009, 10:34:21 PM
I can see the full image, just, on my lap top.

...

Germans, eh? Looks like I have to order a box of Deamons of Nurgle...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on February 25, 2009, 10:36:28 PM
... I'm not one of those types who replaces their computer at the drop of a hat. I wait until it doesn't work any more, or smoke starts coming out of the back.  :)

That’s what happened to my monitor lately. Now I have a brand new (wide) flat screen plugged to my 5 years old Pentium… which is making more and more strange noises when running...  :?

Anyhow the 800 pixels wide work fine for me too.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 25, 2009, 11:39:23 PM
Okay, thank you.
I think we'll stick with the 800 pixel width limit then, as most people don't seem to have a problem seeing it.
If you get a scroll bar, then so be it. It will make for a more interactive viewing experience!  ;)



Though you might consider 0600 GMT on Sunday so the Yanks have all of Saturday to finish and submit their entry.  


Excellent point - thank you Ray. Damn my Little Englander insularity!  lol
In fact let's make it 0700 GMT on the Sunday, since I'm unlikely to be up before 0700 on a Sunday anyway!

I shall amend the details above...

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Admiral Benbow on February 26, 2009, 04:10:10 PM
Captain, great to see the LPL back thanks to your commitment, although I'm not sure if I'll have enough spare time to participate this time. Anyway, even looking at all those magnificent miniatures every Monday increases my exitement  ;D

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 26, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
I've never painted a mounted figure and am unlikely to start now, so my upcoming suggestion isn't intended to benefit, specifically, me.  You might consider changing the rules of the Round 5 "hoseback" bonus to include any animal-mounted figures, whether on camels, elephants, donkeys, terror birds, etc.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on February 26, 2009, 04:48:24 PM
I've never painted a mounted figure and am unlikely to start now, so my upcoming suggestion isn't intended to benefit, specifically, me.  You might consider changing the rules of the Round 5 "hoseback" bonus to include any animal-mounted figures, whether on camels, elephants, donkeys, terror birds, etc.
I quite agree.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on February 26, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
Great news.

Barring unforeseen circumstances – I’m in.

Germans, I can do.

Horses – one of my painting goals this year is to paint horses – so horses it is.
Lost World stuff – who knows?

800 Pixel wide max – perfect.  This is the unofficial standard of the web.  Forgive me if I offend but...If you can’t see 800 wide images without scrolling you need either a new monitor, a new graphics card or a new PC.  And/or sufficient knowledge to check and reset your Display Resolution.

Question about round One bonus.  It used to be that there was no “new” bonus for round one.  In which case I, for example, could enter my recently posted Germans and gain the Round One (German) bonus.  But it was impossible for me to gain any points for a never-seen-before image.

I should state, that I will actually be painting some new Germans, so it won’t affect me.  But it might help – or hinder others to clarify.

Thanks to the Capt for taking this on. 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 26, 2009, 06:01:11 PM
Up at the top of the site, just under the banner, it says: "The Season 2 of the Lead Painters League is closed."  You might wish to change this to something like: "The Season 3 of the spectacular, wondrous, famous-around-the-world, Lead Painters League is now underway".
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 26, 2009, 06:12:49 PM

Although I'm not sure if I'll have enough spare time to participate this time.



Thanks Admiral.
There's no doubt that if one is intent on winning the league by entering a new team every week, it is a big time commitment. But don't forget you can enter 'old' teams, and you don't have to enter a different team every week. You can keep the same team in for two or three rounds (although Grimm does get bored easily if you show him the same team for more than two weeks in a row!  ;)) I do hope you will be able to make a few of the rounds at least, as your painting is always inspiring.



Question about round One bonus.  It used to be that there was no “new” bonus for round one.  In which case I, for example, could enter my recently posted Germans and gain the Round One (German) bonus.  But it was impossible for me to gain any points for a never-seen-before image.



Yes, that's still the case.
In round one, bonus points will not be earned for entering a new team in the league because everyone is entering a new team into the start of the league - even if some of those teams were not 'newly painted'.
Sorry - that sounds a bit confusing, but hope it makes sense.

So the only bonus points available in round one will be for those who enter a German-themed team.

From round two onward, bonus points will be awarded for entering a new team which is newly painted (or at least has never been seen before!)


You might consider changing the rules of the Round 5 "hoseback" bonus to include any animal-mounted figures, whether on camels, elephants, donkeys, terror birds, etc.


I knew someone was going to say that  ;)

In the interests of fairness, and knowing that many LAFers only do fantasy / SF not historicals, let's say animal-mounted (although if someone actually paints 5 elephants and riders, they'll deserve all the bonus points they get!). So that would include wargs, cold ones, etc.

Now - please no-one come back and ask if they can be 'robotic-animal mounted' or mounted on vehicles, because the answer's no!  ;)


Up at the top of the site, just under the banner, it says: "The Season 2 of the Lead Painters League is closed."  You might wish to change this to something like: "The Season 3 of the spectacular, wondrous, famous-around-the-world, Lead Painters League is now underway".


Yep. It's on the list to be done. Thanks Mancha. We'll also see if we can drop a PM out to every member to let them know it's happening...

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Poliorketes on February 26, 2009, 08:07:03 PM
Germans are fine, I'll take some wall paint and splash it right over Grimm, Hazel, Driscoles, Chris & Mike D. McBride :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on February 26, 2009, 08:28:01 PM
Quote
Now - please no-one come back and ask if they can be 'robotic-animal mounted' or mounted on vehicles, because the answer's no!
There goes my idea for round five. I guess I will have to learn how to paint horses.

Looking forward to the league.
Captain
Thanks for all the hard work
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Westfalia Chris on February 26, 2009, 08:31:57 PM
Germans are fine, I'll take some wall paint and splash it right over Grimm, Hazel, Driscoles, Chris & Mike D. McBride :D

Yeah, sure, as if a 800px wide picture would suffice for more than my girth! lol

Another note, we might add to the "Germans Special Theme" the requirement that no Nazi symbols may be present in the images (either by leaving them off the models during painting or posing the figures in a way that they are not visible on the photos).

Just since there have been some occasions recently where people (not out of bad intent, I must stress) did not follow this rule in posting pictures.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 26, 2009, 09:34:59 PM
Good point Chris.
I shall amend accordingly.
Thanks.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on February 27, 2009, 04:36:41 AM
Oh goodie, a new LPL and I've actually got stuff on the painting tray (or recently finished) to submit!

Being incredibly broke I won't be doing the German bonus round, but Lost Worlds is right up my current project alley! Neanderthals, dinos & explorers, oh my!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on February 27, 2009, 06:59:55 AM
I'm going to have a go as it starts in April good long time to get some stuff painted up

dodge
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Bugsda on February 27, 2009, 09:53:09 AM
Well done Captain, I'll have to dig some Germans out of the lead mountain :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 27, 2009, 03:40:23 PM
Up at the top of the site, just under the banner, it says: "The Season 2 of the Lead Painters League is closed."  You might wish to change this to something like: "The Season 3 of the spectacular, wondrous, famous-around-the-world, Lead Painters League is now underway".

Yep. It's on the list to be done. Thanks Mancha. We'll also see if we can drop a PM out to every member to let them know it's happening...


Wow, you took my advice literally.  I wasn't exactly expecting that.  Correcting my own statement, I don't think we need the "The" at the beginning.  Shit, is "underway" really all one word?   :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 27, 2009, 04:08:48 PM
I am so ready for this - the excuse to cut into the mountain is underway!

I must admit, I am sort of surprised. What with what has been the trend lately, you think one of the bonus rounds would an AERONEF...(especially a Norwegian one).
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 27, 2009, 04:14:23 PM
I was kind of expecting SCW myself.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 27, 2009, 05:27:54 PM
Wow! You took my advice literally.  I wasn't exactly expecting that.  Correcting my own statement, I don't think we need the "The" at the beginning.  Shit, is "underway" really all one word?   :)

The Prof's quick work - not me. He must have liked the way you put it.  ;)

Should drum up a bit of interest anyway...  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on February 27, 2009, 05:54:52 PM


Should drum up a bit of interest anyway...  :)
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I think you are going to have your work cut out Capt. and there will be an unprecidented amount of participants

May even have a go myself
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Bullshott on February 28, 2009, 12:28:19 AM
I'm in for this season too. Horses may be a problem (I hate painting horses), but I'll field something mounted for that round ...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: bluewillow on February 28, 2009, 08:38:36 AM
soooo for the newbie,

only one entry per round?

As I have about 5 different german periods
Ancients (for the First corps website) currently underway, should be finnished in two weeks, maybe less
Seven years war (a present for Bruce) Von Kliest Band
Napoleonics Prussians
Pulp adventure types from Eureka
WW2 lots of these

Cheers
matt
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ramshackle_Curtis on February 28, 2009, 09:00:13 AM
IM not quite getting how this works:

Do we submit the same picture each round or must we come up with a fresh set of 5 painted models each week for the course of the competition?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 28, 2009, 10:10:29 AM
IM not quite getting how this works:

Do we submit the same picture each round or must we come up with a fresh set of 5 painted models each week for the course of the competition?

The ideal is to submit a new photo of a new team of a minimum of 5 figures, each week.  This is ideal because you get bonus points (whether you win or lose) for new photos (except for the first week as all photos/teams are new).  After the first week, if you do not have the time or wish to paint up a new team to photo, you may submit a previous entry in its place.  However, you will not receive the bonus points.

So you don't have to submit a photo of a fresh set of 5 figures each week if you don't want to.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 28, 2009, 10:15:02 AM

only one entry per round?

Yep.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: bluewillow on February 28, 2009, 10:24:21 AM
I think I get it

week one 5 figs Germans so I get the bonus
week two 5 figs anything
week three 5 figs anything
week four 5 figs anything
week Five 5 figs mtd get 15 bonus pts to boot
week six 5 figs anything
week seven 5 figs anything
week eight 5 figs anything
week nine 5 figs anything
week ten 5 figs primatives 10 bonus pts
add 5 lost world explorers for extra 20 bonus
add large animal 30 bonus pts

so for an unfocused git like me different figs each week............... bonus!

I'm In!  :D

cheers
matt
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 28, 2009, 10:35:27 AM
Almost Exactly!   ::) See gamer mac's post for the last round.

So time to get to work.

Personally, I'm roughing up a list of the stuff I want to do, preping and basing the figures I already have and trying to figure out what new stuff I need to order.

Best to get ahead 'cause once the League starts it can be pretty grueling trying to keep up... with life and all.

 :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on February 28, 2009, 10:36:54 AM
Blue willow
I am not sure the last bit is right.
If you only do the 5 natives you get ten points
If you do 5 natives + 5 explorers you get 20 points
If you do 5 natives + 5 explorers + Dino you get 30 points
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: bluewillow on February 28, 2009, 10:48:49 AM
Ok settled, now how to do some swaps so i don't break my new years resolution of no new purchases of periods or armies...sculpting maybe >:(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on February 28, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
Thanks Ray and Mac - I think that's all correct  ::)

Just a point - of course it doesn't have to be five figures in a 'team', it has to be 'at least' five figures. But it would be lovely to see a few units with more figures than that  :)


I'm in for this season too. Horsed may be a problem (I hate painting horses), but I'll field something mounted for that round ...


Good man, Bullshott. (I'm expecting Venusian terror birds - just a wild guess  ;))



I think you are going to have your work cut out Capt. and there will be an unprecidented amount of participants

May even have a go myself


Yerrrssss...
Ah well, the more the merrier, eh?
Let's face it, it's only a question of doing a draw, uploading a few pics and updating a few scores...
What could be difficult about that?  :D  (Famous last words)

I could have sworn you were in season 2, weren't you Svennn?
I think you beat me, you swine  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on February 28, 2009, 01:50:29 PM
Well, I've got one team ready to go - not German though, so it'll have to wait till a later round.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ramshackle_Curtis on February 28, 2009, 05:56:09 PM
That is a hard core painting schedule. I think I may enter, but Im not going to be in it to win it if I have to do 50 models! Still thats not the point is it? THis promises to be fun.

Im thinking of doing Mecha Hitler and his lesbian vampire body guard for the first round!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on February 28, 2009, 08:31:48 PM
Well with the time frame I'll be hard pressed to get anywhere in the compitition what with work, wife, kids, dog, and life chopping my time to little pieces. But I'll give it a go! and pray to the Saint's for a miracle brush!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on February 28, 2009, 10:54:18 PM
I didn't aim to enter ten teams last time and there's no way I'll aim for that goal this time.  I just try to get in as many as I can.  We just do our best and ogle some fine painting and imaginative interpretations of what "team" means.  I'm looking forward.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on March 01, 2009, 03:29:31 AM
Question for Capin Blood,

If my team is in a boat and both are painted/built by me does the boat qualify as part of the team? or is it scenery?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 01, 2009, 10:13:51 AM

If my team is in a boat and both are painted/built by me does the boat qualify as part of the team? or is it scenery?


Yes, that's acceptable. Here are the rules again concerning 'composition of the team

Composition of the Team

The only thing NOT acceptable as part of a team is any type of terrain, which may only be used as a "backdrop" for your entry photography. Other than that, you may enter any assembly of miniatures, including humans, aliens, monsters, animals, robots, vehicles, ships, aircraft, spacecraft etc., or a combination thereof, for example a team of humans and animals or of humans and a vehicle (or multiple vehicles). The ONLY stipulation being that the team must follow a consistent theme.

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on March 01, 2009, 12:20:14 PM
Yeah!! Here we go again!!

Since it's will be the 2nd time for me I hope to perform better( And luckily there are no trains involved this time  lol).
Many thanks to you, Captain Blood for organising the LPL this season. It combines also nicely with my battle against the Lead Mountain.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 01, 2009, 01:57:11 PM

It combines also nicely with my battle against the Lead Mountain.


Yes, I think quite a few participants look on the LPL as a bit of a forced march to drive inroads into their tottering lead mountains...  ;)

Of course, if we all spent as much time actually painting, as we do chatting online...  ::)  lol





Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on March 01, 2009, 05:58:14 PM
Two teams painted.  :P
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 02, 2009, 04:07:23 AM

It combines also nicely with my battle against the Lead Mountain.


Yes, I think quite a few participants look on the LPL as a bit of a forced march to drive inroads into their tottering lead mountains...  ;)

Of course, if we all spent as much time actually painting, as we do chatting online...  ::)  lol


Shut your mouth. Where do you think we gett all of these ideas?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on March 02, 2009, 09:23:22 AM
Thanks Ray and Mac - I think that's all correct  ::)

Just a point - of course it doesn't have to be five figures in a 'team', it has to be 'at least' five figures. But it would be lovely to see a few units with more figures than that  :)


I'm in for this season too. Horsed may be a problem (I hate painting horses), but I'll field something mounted for that round ...


Good man, Bullshott. (I'm expecting Venusian terror birds - just a wild guess  ;))



I think you are going to have your work cut out Capt. and there will be an unprecidented amount of participants

May even have a go myself


Yerrrssss...
Ah well, the more the merrier, eh?
Let's face it, it's only a question of doing a draw, uploading a few pics and updating a few scores...
What could be difficult about that?  :D  (Famous last words)

I could have sworn you were in season 2, weren't you Svennn?
I think you beat me, you swine  ;)


With the bonus rounds - 5 & 10 will you still be awarding the "new" bonus points if the team has not been seen before?  (I'm sure the prof did last time.  Not sure about Season one though.)

And if yes how will round 10 work?

That is.  Round 5 - bonus awarded to the painter who fields five or more mounted.  And - if new - 10 bonus points.(?)
Round 10 - bonus points for the...as already discussed.  10 bonus points for new if one team of five unseen? or all teams..?

Thinking about it, the "new" 10 bonus must apply as not everyone will enter a "bonus Round-legal" team.  But they may enter a "new" team. 

Personally, I don't much mind either way but I know it's best to be clear at the outset as some take even "fun" competitions very , very seriously.  ::)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 02, 2009, 09:39:53 AM
With the bonus rounds - 5 & 10 will you still be awarding the "new" bonus points if the team has not been seen before?  (I'm sure the prof did last time.  Not sure about Season one though.)

yes, I did. In season one too. That's correct, you'll get "new" bonus points and "theme bonus" points.

And if yes how will round 10 work?
....
Round 10 - bonus points for the...as already discussed.  10 bonus points for new if one team of five unseen? or all teams..?

the same as Round 5. 10 bonus points for "new" and "theme bonus" points
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on March 02, 2009, 01:17:20 PM

It combines also nicely with my battle against the Lead Mountain.


Yes, I think quite a few participants look on the LPL as a bit of a forced march to drive inroads into their tottering lead mountains...  ;)

Of course, if we all spent as much time actually painting, as we do chatting online...  ::)  lol



I would not call it a forced march, I enjoy the LPL too much for that, but I can imagine that for some people it might feel that way. Chatting does not reduce painting time by much though. I can chat at work without a problem, but I don't know if it would be tolerated if I started painting....   ::)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on March 02, 2009, 01:44:29 PM
Just to clarify, it is the models themselves, not the specific picture, that needs to have not been pictured online before in order to get the bonus points, yes?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 02, 2009, 02:02:46 PM
Just to clarify, it is the models themselves, not the specific picture, that needs to have not been pictured online before in order to get the bonus points, yes?

yes, that's right, the models not the picture.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on March 02, 2009, 03:48:26 PM
Do centaurs count as "Mounted"?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 02, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
Do centaurs count as "Mounted"?

Are you just trying to be awkward?  ;) lol

Honestly, no they don't.
Mounted means one life form mounted on another life form - ideally a biped mounted on a quadruped, although I'm not counting on that in all cases!

But a centaur is one creature isn't it, so cannot strictly be called mounted.

A centaur mounted on some other creature (or vice versa), would of course count  :)



Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on March 02, 2009, 04:38:20 PM
Now it's my turn to be akward  ;D

Do (motor)bikes count as mounts...?

(I thought hell yeah, untill you started talking about one life form sitting on top of another)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on March 02, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
Now it's my turn to be akward  ;D

Do (motor)bikes count as mounts...?

(I thought hell yeah, untill you started talking about one life form sitting on top of another)

We don’t see too many horses around here, so bonus points in round 5 will be awarded to teams with five or more mounted figures. They don’t have to be regular cavalry – they can be tribesmen, cowboys, reivers or rough riders. Or any type of uniformed cavalry.
If you really can't bring yourself to attempt horses, then other real and fantasy animal mounts will be permitted


Why don't people want to paint horses?

I'm seeing this as an opportunity to learn how to paint them.   :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on March 02, 2009, 05:39:39 PM
Ooopss...  fast reading is sometimes a good thing, but sometimes you just miss a sentence  lol

No problem painting horses though, I only really wanted to paint my motorcycle cops. Then again, they can possibly just go into another round. I still have quite some cowboys waiting for a paint job, so horses it is.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 02, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
The pirates I am painting as part of my army referenced in the various pirate threads I have been in have one unti of mounted, so they don't get posted yet - muahaha. I have 3 groups ready to go already! Been a good weekend for painting - finally. Didn't get squat done in February.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 02, 2009, 06:25:34 PM

Why don't people want to paint horses?

I'm seeing this as an opportunity to learn how to paint them.   :)


Well said OT!  ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on March 02, 2009, 07:44:20 PM
Now it's my turn to be akward  ;D

Do (motor)bikes count as mounts...?

(I thought hell yeah, untill you started talking about one life form sitting on top of another)

We don’t see too many horses around here, so bonus points in round 5 will be awarded to teams with five or more mounted figures. They don’t have to be regular cavalry – they can be tribesmen, cowboys, reivers or rough riders. Or any type of uniformed cavalry.
If you really can't bring yourself to attempt horses, then other real and fantasy animal mounts will be permitted


Why don't people want to paint horses?

I'm seeing this as an opportunity to learn how to paint them.   :)

I think some people are forgetting that no one is forcing anyone to paint horses. You can enter whatever you like within the general terms of the competition. You just won't get any extra points for it.

I always saw the competition as a way to promote a prolific output of *various* wargames miniatures to a high tabletop standard. One hopes that the very best painters with broad range and high turnover wins. I get inspired by that it can be done.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on March 02, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
I think some people are forgetting that no one is forcing anyone to paint horses. You can enter whatever you like within the general terms of the competition. You just won't get any extra points for it.

I always saw the competition as a way to promote a prolific output of *various* wargames miniatures to a high tabletop standard. One hopes that the very best painters with broad range and high turnover wins. I get inspired by that it can be done.

I'm with you there Hammers
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Kestrel on March 03, 2009, 12:31:03 AM
I would not call it a forced march, I enjoy the LPL too much for that, but I can imagine that for some people it might feel that way. Chatting does not reduce painting time by much though. I can chat at work without a problem, but I don't know if it would be tolerated if I started painting....   ::)

I have to admit I have been wondering recently if I'd be able to get away with it recently, I used to be able to get away with a portable DVD player on my desk for shifts at a time if I was doing quiet shifts.

Sadly though the ban the Internet, although that has stopped me finding even more models I just have to own lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Alxbates on March 03, 2009, 07:59:17 PM
So... howsabout chariots?  That's got horses, and you can describe a character as being "mounted" in a chariot.

I've got a couple of chariots that I've been meaning to paint for YEARS now, this might be the excuse I need...

-Alex in Alaska
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 03, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Alex,

Paint your chariots, and enter them in another round!

Mounted (to qualify for round 5 'super-bonus') means at least 5 mounted models.
In other words, at least 5 creatures mounted on the backs of at least 5 other creatures.

Men on horses would be a good example  ;)

Please let's not make this more complicated than it needs to be  :)

Thanks
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Alxbates on March 03, 2009, 08:11:36 PM
Heh, OK, OK, OK... fair enough.   8)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 03, 2009, 08:23:34 PM
Heh, OK, OK, OK... fair enough.   8)

You're a pal  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Uncle Mike on March 04, 2009, 02:26:02 PM
Yay! LPL is back! I've got a lot of painting to do!!! Very excited to compete this year as last year was a lot of fun! Good luck all!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on March 04, 2009, 10:26:46 PM
What exactly do you mean by horse?

… Just kidding  lol

I have tons of half painted stuff lying around the apartment. Amongst them there’s a LOT of Germans and Cavalry figures... I also happened to have a (very small) collection of Cavemen….  :D

So figures for round 1, 5 and 10 are pretty well covered and almost finish now… I just need to figure out what to paint for the 7 other round!  :o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Poliorketes on March 05, 2009, 02:20:24 PM
Calimero, what about german cavemen on horses?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on March 05, 2009, 02:34:30 PM
Calimero, what about german cavemen on horses?

 lol I did thought about that!  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on March 05, 2009, 03:51:13 PM
Woohoo! Where do I sign up for this round?
I have lots of Call of Cthulhu miniatures to paint during the next months so this contest will be perfect. Count me in.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 06, 2009, 06:08:13 AM
What is the soonest you will accept entries?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on March 06, 2009, 08:36:42 AM
What is the soonest you will accept entries?

No one likes a show-off you know.   ;) :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 06, 2009, 04:08:51 PM
What is the soonest you will accept entries?

No one likes a show-off you know.   ;) :)

Sure they do - they just won't admit it.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 06, 2009, 09:04:19 PM
What is the soonest you will accept entries?


You can send your entries for round 1 whenever you like between now and 07.00 GMT on Sunday 19th April. But I won't be doing anything with them until 07.01 that day!

For subsequent rounds, as far as possible, I'd ask participants to send me their entries one round at a time, by 07.00 GMT on the Sunday preceding the start of each round on a given Monday.

Obviously if you are away for a week or two, and want to submit entries for 2 rounds at a time, that's fine. But it's going to get awfully confusing for my tiny brain if some people send their entries one at time, others send me entries for two or three rounds at a time, and others send me 10 different entries for all rounds! Also, depending on what happens round by round, people may well change their mind about which team they want to play when.

So - again, as far as possible please - entries for each round in the week before that round kicks off.

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Skipp on March 07, 2009, 09:33:43 AM
do I have to register to join in with this?

its the perfect way for me to finish my 2009 project!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 07, 2009, 10:54:57 AM

do I have to register to join in with this?


Nope.
No registration needed. Open to all comers.
Just email your entry for round 1 as per all the details at the top of this thread, and email any subsequent entries (replacement teams) for subsequent rounds within the timescales shown  :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Skipp on March 08, 2009, 10:04:08 AM
thanks for that, one last question, before I start daubing, can I miss a round?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 08, 2009, 10:23:10 AM
thanks for that, one last question, before I start daubing, can I miss a round?

Yes, of course you can.

Your entry for round 1 stays in each subsequent round until you send a replacement team.

In previous competitions, several people only made one team at the outset, and let these compete in all ten rounds.


Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Uncle Mike on March 09, 2009, 09:08:23 PM
Half finished my round one entry...how 'bout you?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 10, 2009, 05:50:34 AM
Half finished my round one entry...how 'bout you?

Done. Round two and three, as well.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Uncle Mike on March 10, 2009, 01:42:58 PM
Why I oughta! I'll be done round 1 this afternoon...lots to do I guess...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on March 10, 2009, 11:20:26 PM
Oh, you couple o' braggarts!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 11, 2009, 02:01:05 AM
Why I oughta! I'll be done round 1 this afternoon...lots to do I guess...

You oughta get painting, that's what you oughta!

 lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Uncle Mike on March 11, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Round 1 finished, round 2 finished...now to find somthing for round 3...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on March 11, 2009, 02:04:31 PM
Stop goin' on I am only 1/2 way through round 1,

Thursday I'll finish Thursday, yes that's it Thursday

dodge
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 11, 2009, 04:14:47 PM
Plenty of time everybody. Several weeks to go before Round 1 opens.

Gentlemen, your enthusiasm is a marvellous thing, but let's not put unnecessary pressure on other folks, eh?  ;)
(Nobody wants potential participants pulling out or deciding not to take part because they feel they have to paint 10 teams all within the next few weeks in order to be in with a chance).

Everybody's in with a chance. Sometimes slow and steady wins the day...  :)

It's 5 weeks before the competition actually opens and 15 weeks before it closes - plenty of time to paint a few nice new figures...  ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Uncle Mike on March 11, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Pardom me all, just excited. No intent to frighten other participants out of competing. On the contrary, I'm hoping for a super turnout this year. And an excellent competition with some of the best gentlemen in the hobby.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Grimm on March 11, 2009, 05:46:04 PM
 :oGuys !! I diden´t stard for round one !! are you crazy ?!
 look that you guys run over the Teutonic efficiency .

Must stard now  >:D

grimm
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on March 11, 2009, 05:48:07 PM
The way my life is going at the moment 5 weeks is going to go past in a flash  o_o

Work and life imposing on my time  ::)

I was only messing with Uncle Mike and Sinewgrab a bit ;)

Thursday must do some Thursday , yes Thursday that's it  lol

dodge



Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 11, 2009, 06:34:42 PM

I'm hoping for a super turnout this year. And an excellent competition with some of the best gentlemen in the hobby.


Well said Uncle  ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on March 11, 2009, 08:05:56 PM
Well, I have PLENTY of teams I could enter, but most if not all of them have been shown already andnone of them are German or mounted.  Those 10pts per round hurt.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Regulator on March 12, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
Just a short question: Do Condor Legion Advisors also count as germans?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 12, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
Just a short question: Do Condor Legion Advisors also count as germans?


Did they wear German uniforms?

If you're asking whether it's okay to enter a team of generic Spanish Civil War figures and say they are Germans, then I would say that would not qualify for the bonus points.
(Any more, say, than entering a team of cowboys and saying they are German cowboys from Milwaukee  ;))

But if it's a team of figures that specifically represent the German Condor Legion, then I guess they would, yes.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on March 13, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Did they wear German uniforms?
If you're asking whether it's okay to enter a team of cowboys and saying they are German cowboys from Milwaukee...you won't get the Bonus Points...

Damn!  Back to the drawing board for me then.  ;)

I have actually found some suitable figures in German uniforms and some are actually on horses.  (I need the practise for Round 5  ;) )
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Lt. Hazel on March 13, 2009, 03:45:24 PM
Ordered some Germans today.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on March 13, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
woohoo..  the Germans are glued to their bases...  almost ready to start painting

There is however still is the matter of finishing my small tyranid army before I'm allowed to search for German Grey  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on March 14, 2009, 05:41:59 AM
Germans in to-be-painted box: none.

Spare money in bank account: none.

Bonus points for Wirelizard in the first round: none.

It's OK, I've got that Lost World-plus-primitives-plus-critter round sewn right up. Pity it's not until June...  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 14, 2009, 09:04:12 AM
You never know. Some generous person with surplus Germans buried in their teetering lead mountain might feel like sending you a few...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on March 14, 2009, 02:04:21 PM
Yeah.  I mean, I've got some American GIs with rocketpacks, but no Germans.  Alas for Froggy, his bonus shall be naught.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on March 16, 2009, 11:26:06 PM
When is the soonest we can enter pictures for a round? I ask since work may call me out of town and I might miss submitting pictures! Might be nice to ba able to subbmit early.

Bill
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 16, 2009, 11:50:29 PM
When is the soonest we can enter pictures for a round? I ask since work may call me out of town and I might miss submitting pictures! Might be nice to ba able to subbmit early.

Bill

Bill

You can send your entry for round 1 whenever you like.
If you are planning on sending entries for subsequent rounds in advance, please just make sure you clearly title each team / picture and state which round it's to compete in.

 :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ironworker on March 19, 2009, 02:14:35 PM
I'm in.  Perhaps this will help me finish my friekorps.  Hopefully I can keep up. 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: keeper on March 19, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
I wasn't sure I'd have the time, but some things have fallen through. So, dammit, I'm in anyway!! lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: warhammergrimace on March 19, 2009, 04:04:55 PM
This sounds like fun, So I've decided to give it a go. I'm in the process of painting some SAS, so they'll be round 1, me thinks.

Just re-read the the beginning, its Germans for round 1. Will get some Germans out to paint, possibly WW1 or 2.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 19, 2009, 07:49:53 PM

Just re-read the the beginning, its Germans for round 1. Will get some Germans out to paint, possibly WW1 or 2.


Great!  :)

Just to be clear though, you don't HAVE to enter Germans for round 1.
You can enter any team you like for any of the 10 rounds.
You can enter one team that competes all ten rounds (although this can get a bit boring  ;))
Or you can enter a different team for each round.
Or you can change teams as often as you like.

It's just that rounds 1, 5 and 10 are extra-bonus rounds, so if you want to chase those extra-bonus points, you do need to go with the theme for those rounds.

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: warhammergrimace on March 19, 2009, 10:10:06 PM
The SAS will now become round 2, so that's round two team done, just need to get some Germans, and go for the added bonus.

I found a single WW1 German in my grey army, now he just needs 4 muckers to become a team, trip to town tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: tsar1701 on March 20, 2009, 02:32:33 PM
Oh my god, I failed missed the event !
It's because I was a long time away from the LAF (shame, shame, shame).

It'll a great honor and pleasure for me to be present at the LPL3

cheers
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gregory privat on March 22, 2009, 08:53:42 PM
Count me in.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Moriarty on March 26, 2009, 09:39:58 PM
Hoorah!

Good thing the LPL is back - this means I won't have to worry about what to do with all that spare tiime I don't have. Don't you just hate it when you can't resist temptation?

Lets see; WAS Austrians - check; Turkish Sipahis - check; now how so I shoe-horn 30mm toy soldiers into the round 10 bonus area? Have to think about that one.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Aaron on March 27, 2009, 02:22:24 PM
I think I might be able to handle allowing myself to be soundly thrashed for ten weeks. I have loads of stuff that needs painting and this might just be the motivation needed.


Or it might motivate me to put my eyes out and never paint again... :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on March 28, 2009, 02:18:49 PM
There's no way I can take part in this due to my work overload - but good grief, I actually do have mounted Germans! - it MUST be a sign!
No promises, but I might just be there.... maybe...

Oh - and this time that last place has to be MINE!  >:(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 29, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
My entry is email! The middle of the pack position will be mine!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on March 29, 2009, 10:44:28 PM
Okay everybody... Starts 3 weeks tomorrow (or today, depending where in the world you are  ;))

No pressure!  lol

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on March 30, 2009, 09:51:57 AM
Okay everybody... Starts 3 weeks tomorrow (or today, depending where in the world you are  ;))

No pressure!  lol



Thanks for the reminder  o_o have rounds one and two sorted, and half of 5

basecoated round three last night.

scary that its only three weeks away

dodge
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on March 30, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
Okay everybody... Starts 3 weeks tomorrow (or today, depending where in the world you are  ;))

No pressure!  lol



I have sent you an email...

I have started painting some figures for round 10  :)

No one should infer from this that I have started painting anything for rounds 2 - 9  :(  But I have done a lot of prepping and priming  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on March 30, 2009, 12:16:10 PM
Okay everybody... Starts 3 weeks tomorrow (or today, depending where in the world you are  ;))

No pressure!  lol


Yikes!

For some reason I was thinking the league started on the 29th.   :o

Note to self, began painting... soon.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on March 30, 2009, 02:25:39 PM
Okay everybody... Starts 3 weeks tomorrow (or today, depending where in the world you are  ;))

So actually you are saying I still have two weeks before I have to start painting...  Time to relax a bit more  ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on April 01, 2009, 12:47:06 PM
I'm looking forward to participating in my very first LPL ever. Thanks Captain Blood for organising it all! I'm not sure what I will enter yet but I have some ideas for some of the rounds at least 8)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: warhammergrimace on April 02, 2009, 09:40:27 AM
Well I've painted round 2, started round 1, preped and primed round 3. I'm now considering what to do for the following rounds, though I do have a unit ready to go for round 5, so round 5 is also primed and ready for paint.

Command figures from Warlord Royalists for round 3.
I'm thinking a unit of Ultramarine Scouts for round 4.
Haradrim Raiders for round 5
Round 6 will have to Pirates

No idea what to do for the other rounds as yet.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 02, 2009, 09:47:47 AM
Command figures from Warlord Royalists for round 3.

Are we allowed to enter plastic figures?  ( lol lol lol lol lol ;) )
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on April 02, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
Command figures from Warlord Royalists for round 3.

Are we allowed to enter plastic figures?  ( lol lol lol lol lol ;) )

Well its not called the lead painters league, hosted on Lead Adventure, for nothing - surely ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 02, 2009, 11:50:08 AM
Well plastic and resin vehicles were freely included as part of teams in previous seasons of the league, as were plastic GW figures by the bucketload... So I think we can say it's okay to include plastic historical figures in season three...

;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on April 02, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Pfew...  good to hear. I never thought about the lead/plastic debate, but happily used plastic last time and will I do the same again this time   :P

Looking forawrd to the start and seeing the entries :)

I'll try to take the first pictures in the weekend
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 02, 2009, 01:03:52 PM
Pfew...  good to hear. I never thought about the lead/plastic debate...

It's only joking.   :)  Personally, I often use plastic bases.   ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on April 02, 2009, 01:09:08 PM
Pfew...  good to hear. I never thought about the lead/plastic debate...

It's only joking.   :)  Personally, I often use plastic bases.   ;)

I was joking too.

Plastic bases? and I thought you was a pure metal man :D I personally wouldn't even use a plastic handled brush ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on April 02, 2009, 01:09:51 PM
Oh poo! Just realised paints are in plastic pots o_o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on April 02, 2009, 01:34:18 PM
Oh poo! Just realised paints are in plastic pots o_o

Hah, at least I do throw in metal balls to get better mixing during shaking and let the paint allready get used to the feeling of metal  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on April 03, 2009, 07:18:29 AM
Use Reaper's paints, they come with little metal mixing balls in them already!

Actually, I've heard that Reaperś mixers are little cast pewter 28mm skulls, but I have yet to actually use any of my Reaper paints off to check this rumour!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: HerbyF on April 03, 2009, 09:24:06 AM
Guess I better get started on that boxer rebellion german howlizer for round 1.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Doc Twilight on April 03, 2009, 09:36:48 AM
Ooh goodie. I just made a nice purchase of some highly unusual Germans from Eureka with my last Aztec order, and hadn't got round to painting them yet. Sounds like I know what I'll be doing (or attempting to do) in Round 1!

You know, if the SW African Camel Corps I bought years ago from HLBS were in better shape, I might consider those for the mounted round, too. Going to have to find some way to get more of those guys, regardless.

-Doc

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 03, 2009, 09:42:44 AM
You know, if the SW African Camel Corps I bought years ago from HLBS were in better shape, I might consider those for the mounted round, too. Going to have to find some way to get more of those guys, regardless.

-Doc

Yeah, I wish those were still available. Hammers gave me a couple a while back. To make them into a unit I added to their ranks using the ones available from Tiger Miniatures, but I think the HLBSC ones are nicer.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gregory privat on April 03, 2009, 06:23:04 PM
A fast question : can we publish WIP pictures on our blogs/webpages (not finished miniatures) and still get the bonus for "brand new never seen before on the net" miniatures ?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 03, 2009, 06:45:11 PM
Use Reaper's paints, they come with little metal mixing balls in them already!

Actually, I've heard that Reaperś mixers are little cast pewter 28mm skulls, but I have yet to actually use any of my Reaper paints off to check this rumour!
They do.  I transferred a complete set of the older ProPaints into dropper bottles a few years ago and I now have a paintpot full of Gruesome Severed Head Agitators (TM).
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 03, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
A fast question : can we publish WIP pictures on our blogs/webpages (not finished miniatures) and still get the bonus for "brand new never seen before on the net" miniatures ?

No.
'Never seen before' means 'never seen before'.

Obviously you can show the unpainted figures before you start.
But once you start painting them, then I think we have to say they should not be shown until they enter the competition - if you want the bonus points for 'never previously seen' that is.

I do appreciate that's a bit harsh for those that like sharing their WIP, but, really the whole idea here is that people get bonuses for painting new stuff and entering those new teams into the competition where they can be seen and enjoyed for the first time by an adoring public  ;)


On a similar subject, while I can't quite find it in the rules right now, just to remind everyone planning to participate, that it is 'not the done thing' to separately post extra pics elsewhere on this site, of a team that you have 'live' in the competition.

Clearly it makes a bit of a nonsense of the requirement to submit one image into the competition, if competitors are free to open up another thread on another board, and post loads of extra pictures of the same subject!
This removes the element of fairness from the competition, so I would kindly request that participants don't do this.

I know that most people know this already, and wouldn't dream - intentionally or otherwise - of influencing the outcome in this way. But maybe not everybody realises this, since I've seen it happen recently (not here in the LPL I should add).

Of course, once the week of the contest for that particular entry is finished, you should go ahead and post as many supplementary pics as you like in the appropriate board.  :)

Personally, when I'm in a competition, I try to avoid posting the pictures anywhere else (including on other forums) until the competition is finished. But this is not a rule as such. I leave it up to your conscience  lol

Thanks all  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 03, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
Okay everyone, just a quick update, because the LPL3 is rapidly approaching, and I am off on holiday for a week  ;)

While I'm away, I'll have my blackberry thingy with me, so I'll still be able to get online and check this thread - but I can't access PM's, so don't bother PM'ing me!

I'm back from 12th April, and from that point on I'll be gearing up to open the competition on the advertised date.

Just to remind you, the email address for entries is lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk

Please take the time in the next few days to carefully re-read the specific rules, dates, bonus rounds, and other details on LPL3 which are all contained in the first post at the top of this very thread.

And also the general rules for the Lead Painters League here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=2399

...paying particular attention to the composition of teams and the composition of the image which forms your entry...
What is 'legal' and what is not :)

Thanks all, looking forward to seeing your first entries (and I've had a few already... )

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on April 13, 2009, 02:35:21 PM
Woohoo,  entry one has finally been entered :)

Time put some serious effort into entry 2 and 3
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on April 13, 2009, 05:05:25 PM
Bugger, my German figures aren't going to be here in time for Round 1's bonus points. I shall have to get busy photographing something else and forgo the bonus...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 13, 2009, 05:59:06 PM
My entry may or may not be accounted as German, but my intentions were good at least.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on April 13, 2009, 06:41:26 PM
IF and only if I manage to get them done on time I'll be (sigh) into a new area for me - WWWII Germans. The best I can do is promise 'weird'. I'm aiming to get a laugh at least.  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 13, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
 :o

Yikes!

Less than a week before the competition begins!

I'm already starting to freak out...   o_o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 13, 2009, 08:12:46 PM
IF and only if I manage to get them done on time I'll be (sigh) into a new area for me - WWWII Germans. The best I can do is promise 'weird'. I'm aiming to get a laugh at least.  :)
Mine were certainly Weird.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on April 13, 2009, 09:09:04 PM
IF and only if I manage to get them done on time I'll be (sigh) into a new area for me - WWWII Germans. The best I can do is promise 'weird'. I'm aiming to get a laugh at least.  :)
Mine were certainly Weird.
Ah good. Weird is good.  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 13, 2009, 09:28:10 PM

Woohoo,  entry one has finally been entered :)


Braxandur

I haven't received your entry  ???
Did you send it to lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk ?

Thanks

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on April 13, 2009, 11:21:17 PM
My entry away.
Did you get it Captain?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 13, 2009, 11:37:48 PM
My entry away.
Did you get it Captain?

Mac

Yes, received, but am having trouble decoding the bmp. file.
Can you possibly reformat as a jpeg?  :?

Ta.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on April 14, 2009, 09:32:37 AM
thanks for checking Captain Blood,

it's a bit strange, the mail is even filled in the send email box. Then again, since we had a mail server upgrade last week, everything is not functioning that well anymore...

I just resend the picture and hope it arrives this time.



Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 14, 2009, 10:36:30 AM
Thanks chaps. All safely gathered in.

The deadline for round 1 is now only 5 days away!

You need to have your round 1 entry with me by 0700 GMT on Sunday 19th April.

Voting will open on the morning of Monday 20th April.

Please send your entries to lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk

 :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: warhammergrimace on April 14, 2009, 02:20:04 PM
I've completed round 1 and 2, halfway through round 3 and about to start round 4.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Uncle Mike on April 15, 2009, 08:05:18 PM
Just sent in my first few entries...best of luck everyone.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Moriarty on April 15, 2009, 10:08:17 PM
Off goes the first round piccie, winging its way through the tortuous pathways of t'Interweb.

I know I'll get some points this round, as it's Germans!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 16, 2009, 12:06:11 AM
Thanks chaps. All received...

Around 20 combatants so far...
Still three days (plus about seven hours) to get your entries in for round 1...
But please don't leave it to the last minute - just in case your ISP goes down on Saturday night ;)

Then, let battle commence  :-*
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Jase on April 16, 2009, 06:57:27 AM
Mailed my first entry to Captain Blood as well. Now, let's hope I have enough spare time to finish more thatn one entry...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: warhammergrimace on April 16, 2009, 08:52:29 AM
will be mailing in round 1 later today. Round is done and will send that in as well.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sterling Moose on April 16, 2009, 07:10:35 PM
Entries for Rounds 1-5 inbound.

Sterling
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 17, 2009, 08:59:10 AM
Just sent in my first few entries...

will be mailing in round 1 later today. Round 2 is done and will send that in as well.

Entries for Rounds 1-5 inbound.

I thought the Captain requested entries week by week to make things a little easier for him?  Or have I missed something?  :?

I have now finished an entry for round 2, which I won't send until Round 1 has started.  Is this how the Captain prefers it?  Or shall I just send "mass entries" if I have them?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on April 17, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
Where is the fun in sending in all entries so far in advance? I really like it that I have a goal which I have to try to finish every week. Lot's of work, but way more satisfaction that way. (especially considering I normally have a problem with finishing projects).

Except for round one, none of my entries are finished, though some are started or having been collecting dus in a half finished state for almost a year. I do really hope to get round two finished at the start of the week. With 24 models in total, that enry must be a record for me and is defenitly good for my Lead Hauler Vow rating  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on April 17, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
I prefer to take it week by week as well even though I have already finished some rounds in advance. I still need to take pictures of a lot of stuff and that in itself takes me quite a while usually as well 8)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on April 17, 2009, 11:39:20 AM
Week one still not done. Oh dear, time to panic, methinks.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 17, 2009, 11:48:39 AM
Gentlemen, you can send your entries as you prefer. I have separate folders set up for each round, so I can collect entries now or later.

Just to give you an update... 22 combatants have thrown their hats into the ring so far, and we still have a couple of days to go before entries to round 1 close. So I'm expecting a good field  :)

Lots of very nice entries to look forward to. And all German (more or less!)  ;)

Nobody panic. You've got until 0700 GMT this coming sunday morning to mail your entry to lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk

 :P


Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 17, 2009, 01:22:07 PM

Just to give you an update... 22 combatants have thrown their hats into the ring so far, and we still have a couple of days to go before entries to round 1 close. So I'm expecting a good field  :)

Giving that all has gone well... 23.

 :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 17, 2009, 01:30:47 PM
Lots of very nice entries to look forward to. And all German (more or less!)  ;)
Woohoo!  Does that mean my entry qualified as such?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on April 17, 2009, 02:13:17 PM

Just to give you an update... 22 combatants have thrown their hats into the ring so far, and we still have a couple of days to go before entries to round 1 close. So I'm expecting a good field  :)

Giving that all has gone well... 23.

 :)

Will we be able to play "Wheres Wally" with the bulldog this season?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 17, 2009, 05:33:30 PM

Will we be able to play "Wheres Wally" with the bulldog this season?

Pugsley has retired from the painting circuit.

Rumor has it.. he has been replaced...  ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 18, 2009, 09:44:38 AM
Less than 24 hours to get your entries in...   :o

25 entrants so far for round 1...

Be nice to have a few more  ;)

Let's be having you.

Entries (including team title and your forum user name) to lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk by 0700 GMT Sunday 19th April.



Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gregory privat on April 18, 2009, 11:11:35 AM
I ve sent my entrie. Did you get it ?

I must say that I m starting to develop a hate/love feeling with this contest as it's slowing down my painting production on my blog. Well, still, at least for the first entry, it s surelly something I would have never made if not for the contest.

Good luck to everyone for the first round )

Gr?gory
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on April 18, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
Yeah! Just sent in my first entry. Now to get painting like a madman on the next one...!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on April 18, 2009, 05:38:39 PM
Phew - with 13 hours to spare, I made it.
And now for week 2....
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 18, 2009, 06:47:39 PM
Ah yes... They're flooding in now... 31 entries and counting  ;)
Keep 'em coming.
Come on - 12 hours painting time left!

 lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on April 18, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
Wow, I'm so looking forward to monday!  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on April 18, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
I DID IT !  ;D
I painted more in this last week than in all the year ( and probably more than last year too). The LPL was a wonderful opportunity to reduce the lead montain ant to color it, but I didn't think that it would take so much time (especially all the photo-thingy  o_o >:( ) So I'm very, very pleased to finish it in time (sorry to be so late, Cap') and at least, they are germans... but once again, I'm not a painter !

See you on monday !  ;)

Meow,
Matt




Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Raz on April 18, 2009, 10:07:13 PM
Make that 33. I just sent in my image :) Hope you received it in good order, if not let me know and I'll send it again.

 I'm really looking forward to seeing all the entries on monday! And I must say participating in the league really got me to finish these figures, so it's great ot be onboard :)

Now for round 2 ...  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on April 19, 2009, 01:00:18 AM
34, I think. Finished the touchup painting last night, pictures shot this afternoon - damn camera battery died on me, but I managed to massage an acceptable shot out of the computer in post. Bleh.

Tomorrow I'll shoot the round two pics, assuming we get a bit of sun in the morning before I go to work. Then I need to figure out further entries...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on April 19, 2009, 06:04:06 AM
Threw in round 1, lets dance...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 19, 2009, 09:46:06 AM
Good luck to everybody!

Looking forward to seeing your photos!

Monday returns as my favorite day of the week...  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sky Captain on April 19, 2009, 10:02:46 AM
First time to show my figures on the internet.  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 19, 2009, 10:52:17 AM
Entry to Round One of Season Three is now CLOSED.

You can continue sending entries for subsequent rounds to lpleague3@yahoo.co.uk  :)

There will be 21 matches in round 1
We have 42 participants  :o
Well done everybody, and good luck!

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Just to remind you, if you wish to substitute a new team for round 2 you need to email your replacement team by 0700 GMT on Sunday 26 April.

If you do not send a replacement team, your round 1 entry will continue in the competition and will be rematched against a new opponent in round 2 (and in subsequent rounds until your team is substituted).
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: answer_is_42 on April 19, 2009, 11:10:27 AM
We have 42 participants
That can only be good... ;)

I look forward to seeing the entries.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Raz on April 19, 2009, 11:32:25 AM
42! That's a lot of eyecandy tomorrow morning when I arrive at work :D Start up the pc, grab a cup of coffee and then enjoy the show :) Good luck everybody!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 19, 2009, 12:17:37 PM

We have 42 participants  :o

Holy Macaroni!

No wonder the forums have been so quiet (photo wise) in the last past month or so.

This is going to mind boggling...  o_o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 19, 2009, 12:21:48 PM
...And I shall be late for work!  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mr.J on April 19, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
I can't wait to see everyone's entries! Should be a good with that many people.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 19, 2009, 05:36:36 PM
Okay, make that 44, since I'm letting a couple of late entries slide under the wire...

But this is the last time, right!  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: warhammergrimace on April 19, 2009, 08:25:44 PM
Can't wait to see all the entries, will be something to look forward to after work tomorrow. Can't look whilst at work as it's a new job and first day tomorrow. I don't want to get fired on my first day for peeking at the forum, LOL.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on April 19, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
I can see I am not going to get much work done tomorrow morning.
Good luck everyone :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ironworker on April 19, 2009, 10:30:55 PM
Damn didn't make it this time because I wasn't paying attention to the date until this morning.  Oh well I'll try next round and failing that next league. 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on April 19, 2009, 10:54:09 PM
You've got until round 5 to enter this League, according to the rules.

I can't wait to see all 20+ matchups... hoping I'm not matched up against one of our legendary painters, who will completely blow me out of the water! If I'm a lucky person, everything will be posted before I go to bed late tonight - there are advantages to being 8 hours behind Europe!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 20, 2009, 12:15:18 AM
It's now Monday morning here in the UK (well, it's gone Midnight anyway) so Round 1 is up for voting.

Enjoy!  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gregory privat on April 20, 2009, 12:41:33 AM
Where ? <-- no matter, found it (I was looking for a general poll, not several little messages)  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mr.J on April 20, 2009, 01:08:35 AM
Wow! Glad I decided to check to see if anything was happening before I went to bed.
There are some extremely talented painters out there!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 20, 2009, 04:43:15 AM
44 participants?!?! I'm speechless... :o

just a great job, Richard! I'm very happy to see the League running again, thanks a lot  :)

and good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 20, 2009, 08:43:25 AM
Blimey, it continues on to the second page. Hope those ones don't get neglected by the voters.


No Grimm this time? I was looking forward to seeing what he had for us.   :(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 20, 2009, 08:48:39 AM
Just finished voting.  Lost and lots of great entries.  :)

No Grimm this time?

He's there.  F?hrerschein und Fahrzeugpapiere Bitte
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 20, 2009, 08:53:09 AM
Blimey, it continues on to the second page. Hope those ones don't get neglected by the voters.


Good point. I've changed the number of topics in a topic page to 45, so we can see them all now on the first page.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 20, 2009, 08:53:21 AM
Thanks, Orctrader. I'm sure I don't know how I missed that. I blame the sheer volume, and the fact that I'm an absolute confounded ninny! :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on April 20, 2009, 01:20:38 PM
Thanks to the Prof, the Captain and all the participants for the great show !

Is anyone sick of "feldgrau" OD though ?  lol

meow,
Matt
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 20, 2009, 02:45:20 PM
Are we breaking record not only in the number of participants but also in the number of people voting? I counted 92 votes in all in my match.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 20, 2009, 03:23:12 PM
the record in the number of people voting in the Season 2 was about 200 votes
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 20, 2009, 05:08:45 PM
What are the voting criteria?  I was under the impression that the terrain and backdrop were more incidental - thus I used a white background to better show off the figures instead.  It appears that this is costing me dearly.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on April 20, 2009, 06:17:08 PM
What are the voting criteria?  I was under the impression that the terrain and backdrop were more incidental - thus I used a white background to better show off the figures instead.  It appears that this is costing me dearly.

I think voting criteria are personal, I couldn't find any at least. I decide my vote based on 'best overall picture' which sometimes means a piccie with scenery wins over a piccie without despite painting quality, but those are my criteria.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 20, 2009, 06:20:50 PM
You vote for what you like best. You can't force people to use certain criteria. If the entry is rules-legal, then you can vote for it.

Everything adds up, it's the overall look, really. I still think vastly superior painting will win out providing the photography is good enough, but good composition, setting and a clever idea are things that may make the difference in a close race.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on April 20, 2009, 06:28:49 PM
Yes Froggy,

I would have to agree with you on that one! From what I read the background and such are "supposed" to have no bearing on the vote but people most of the time go with a first or overall impression and the posed magazine look to some pictures is just ?it? for some viewers. Glancing at some of the comments I saw people talking about voting for one over the other based on backgrounds many times! I saw this would bee a problem when I first looked at past contest and thought about entering one myself. I like and do paint in many different scales and the smaller the scale the harder it is to get a good picture of with detail on the main subject and still have a background or other figs off the main focal point in focus! I love the ?posed? background shots but think it is slightly unfair as it forces everyone to go that route. Many do not have the time or resources to build and photograph at that level, but this is not my competition?lol.

All that aside, Capitan Blood if you are listening I think it would be a good/nice idea if you could at least list the SCALE of the figures in the description (IE: 28mm, or 15mm Russian Cav) so that people could more accurately judge the painting of the figures.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 20, 2009, 06:52:41 PM

All that aside, Capitan Blood if you are listening I think it would be a good/nice idea if you could at least list the SCALE of the figures in the description (IE: 28mm, or 15mm Russian Cav) so that people could more accurately judge the painting of the figures.

I don't think that is his job, to be quite honest.

That is the artists' responsibility.  One should always "name" your entry and that is where the scale should be included, if the artist deems it important.

As for backgrounds, they are allowed in the rules, always have been.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Admiral Benbow on April 20, 2009, 07:38:16 PM
@ Froggy and Vonkluge: look at this match, it's the perfect example that even group shots without any backdrops or scenery will win if enough voters like them: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10668.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10668.0)  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 20, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
My feeling is that the votes should be blind, by which I mean, names of painters shouldn't be provided.  Does anyone else think it's possible that some of us vote for painters as opposed to teams? 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 20, 2009, 08:55:17 PM
Does anyone else think it's possible that some of us vote for painters as opposed to teams? 

No, not at all.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Admiral Benbow on April 20, 2009, 09:02:57 PM
Does anyone else think it's possible that some of us vote for painters as opposed to teams? 

No, never. And I really hope that everybody here, participants and voters, reminds himself that the Lead Painter's League is primarily for having FUN ..., in painting, voting for and looking at so many marvelous painted miniatures!
 :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Jase on April 20, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
@ Froggy and Vonkluge: look at this match, it's the perfect example that even group shots without any backdrops or scenery will win if enough voters like them: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10668.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10668.0)  :)


Gee, thanks!  ;) lol

Personally, I look for the paintjobs first and the background secondly. However, a dramatic backdrop can enhance the atmosphere greatly and as such it often adds a lot to the painted miniatures.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 20, 2009, 09:38:46 PM
And I really hope that everybody here, participants and voters, reminds himself that the Lead Painter's League is primarily for having FUN ..., in painting, voting for and looking at so many marvelous painted miniatures!
 :)

Right. There have been a few posts which made me wonder whether there was a substantial cash price this year that I was not aware of. :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 20, 2009, 10:01:01 PM

Right. There have been a few posts which made me wonder whether there was a substantial cash price this year that I was not aware of. :)


Well I can tell you there wasn't last year  lol

Seriously though, I'm a competitive sort, so I really don't mind other people who also take it seriously and have a legitimate view about what might be done differently.

But as Admiral B points out, it is only for fun; we've established a typically civilised LAF way of doing things which is not perhaps quite how it's done in other places, but which seems to suit this forum pretty well.
There will be no changes to the rules - certainly not while the season is running anyway. So best not to ask ;)
Try to just enjoy  :)


Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: meninobesta on April 20, 2009, 10:12:32 PM
thank you all! for this wonderful start! :)

you are the only persons in the world that make mondays sound positive!  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 20, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
And let me make it perfectly clear that I was not trying to slight my opponent nor start a fight.  Now I know better how to compose my shots.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on April 21, 2009, 12:45:16 AM
All valid comments gents!  :D but mine were just in response to "Froggy's" thoughts  they too are valid overall. No, not everyone judges that way but quite a few do. I have seen painting contest all over the land for over 25 years, entered many, won some, judged several, and I know for a fact that given an "open" judging (public so to speak as we have here, sort of) votes will tend to go to the most impressive display, The "current" popular "theme" or figure line, ect. If you have a set of "pro" judges governed by a given set of rules who know what to look for things will go quite different, often against the popular "vote". Painting contest are only really valid when you are "holding" each figure and judging under the same conditions. I was in a "Historicon" painting contest once where do to bad lighting they attempted to judge with flashlights!  :o

Even then it is subjective, think of a beauty contest at ?Hooters? and one held at ?Harvard? college, you will get 2 very beautiful girls, but two very different types of beauty! (for our European friends that may not know what "Hooter's" is, let?s just say your beer is served by females with very large assets :-*.) This line of thought is validated by the common knowledge that many "Pro" painters carefully select there subject matter to paint so to appeal to the type of people judging and conditions of that paticular contest. IE: last year there were 10 different "TigerII tanks entered, this year I better do something different! Or the movie "Glory" just came out and American civil war is very popular!

I stand by my comment on backgrounds though, they will get more and more high tech and we will spend more and more time on them. This has the unfortunate effect of limiting competition from people who can?t do the background. I can, no problem, but others can?t. I can use photo shop and get laser effects, smoke, sharpen and highlight, blur and smooth a bit of bad paint...lol where does it stop?

This "fun" contest is just for fun and can really only be judged as that since there are way too many variables to make it anything else. It is also a contest of volume! (If you try to paint new stuff all the time! lol! We all learn here and I'm sure "Froggy" has, maybe will see a redone photo of his excellent? "Nazi Fishmen" in a seaside setting.  I have learned in the future I will make sure I give the good Capt'n Blood a better description of my minis to post! but broken camera, and pea brain me could not figure out how to get the entry sent! was lucky I made the deadline.

I was and still am under the impression that this is a "forum" and the reason its called a "Forum" is that is where people through out history met to talk, discuss, debate, ideas and topics of the day in a Friendly manner. So any post here (at least by me, is only to that end and you can take it or leave it, its not accusational at all merely a discussion of thoughts.

Anyway lots of great painting by everyone, great inspiration!, and Hats off to Capt?n Blood for taken the time and putting in the effort to run this contest! And I hope I?ve not pissed anyone off cause I need all the votes I can get! Good luck to all!

(http://www.historicalhobbies.com/DOGS/main/images/Star/Doug3.jpg)

(http://www.historicalhobbies.com/DOGS/main/images/Star/G1Hopper.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on April 21, 2009, 12:10:30 PM
I certainly wasn't pissed off 8) I think in the end everyone has their own interests, and I do agree that the way the voting happens here will result in a popularity contest (of pictures, not people) rather than an objective comparison of painting quality. But since the original intention of the LPL was to get away from painting competitions where the bestest painters float to the surface by spending large amounts of time on a single model. I really like the setup but then I have invested time in getting together a lot of scenery so I like to show it off as well. 8)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 21, 2009, 03:23:54 PM
Seriously though, I'm a competitive sort, so I really don't mind other people who also take it seriously and have a legitimate view about what might be done differently.


I find this comment, and the attitude it represents, refreshing, as it seems that anyone who expresses doubts about the rules (or even just asks for clarification on them) gets admonished, branded a "whiner", and their club membership is revoked.  Thank you for pointing out that rules discussions are legitimate.

If I enter a competition, I expect it to be fair.  This is not to say that the LPL is not fair, but there are things that could be done to level the playing field a little.  Most obviously, the names of the painters really should be removed.  If you think about it, presenting the names of the entrants serves no purpose whatsoever, other than letting people know that the entry is painting by someone we know, respect, and consider ourselves sort of "friends" with (in that weird online way).  We see the painter's name and say to ourselves "Oh neat, this was entered by Joe - he responded to my last thread about gaming and modelling 19th Century Bavarian psychopaths in Ethiopia." The obvious problem is that if we know, respect and consider ourselves friends with the painter, then this might influence our vote.

And regarding the idea that our vote would be influenced by knowledge of the painter: I didn't mean that this would happen in a blatant "Oh, I'm going to vote for Mr. X's entry because I like him, although Ms. Y's entry is clearly better" kind of way.  Rather, when we find ourselves in one of those wow-they're-both-so-good situations, we might then be subconsciously (or maybe not even so subconsciously) swayed by our knowledge of the identity of the painter, rather than continuing to focus on the paintjob.  People always deny that they would succumb to this, but anyone who's taken a research methods class, been involved in the field of advertising (or thought about the fact that they're the target of advertising!), or even just lived through that Pepsi Challenge advertising campaign of the 70s - 80s, should be aware of this.


There will be no changes to the rules - certainly not while the season is running anyway. So best not to ask ;)
Try to just enjoy  :)


Well, I won't ask then, but I'll still point it out.  ;) This would not, by the way, be a change in rules, per se, but would, rather, be a change in procedure.  Furthermore, while it makes sense that we would not alter the rules in the middle of the event, I have to point out that the rules are never altered in between events either.  In fact, the only chance for a change in rules seems to be when the rules are being discussed, which only happens during the event.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 21, 2009, 03:38:36 PM
If you think about it, presenting the names of the entrants serves no purpose whatsoever, other than letting people know that the entry is painting by someone we know, respect, and consider ourselves sort of "friends" with (in that weird online way). 

Gee... If that is true people must really hate me around here, at least during LPL S3R1. :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 21, 2009, 03:55:07 PM
Gee... If that is true people must really hate me around here, at least during LPL S3R1. :)

While I get your irony (and appreciate your smiley), please notice that while you may be losing your pair-off, you have, nevertheless, earned a great deal of feedback.  This in itself may be evidence of the favor your name earns.  Additionally, yours is the only entry that violates the groupshot rule.  Can you state with absolute certainty that a no-name entry would have been allowed in if it violated this rule?

You know, your participation is greatly appreciated.  You've done well in past LPLs, you're obviously a great (and imaginitive) painter with a sense of humor, and I, for one, would be disappointed if you weren't taking part in the competition.  I have to admit that maybe it's legitimate to bend some rules for our favorite forum members--I'm disappointed, for example, that The Prof can't participate in this LPL, and I'd be perfectly happy to allow late entries from him just so we could see them.  I think it's strange that we'd bend certain rules, however, but fail to recognize the value, and potential danger, of entrants' names.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on April 21, 2009, 04:03:55 PM
I certainly wasn't pissed off 8) I think in the end everyone has their own interests, and I do agree that the way the voting happens here will result in a popularity contest (of pictures, not people) rather than an objective comparison of painting quality. But since the original intention of the LPL was to get away from painting competitions where the bestest painters float to the surface by spending large amounts of time on a single model. I really like the setup but then I have invested time in getting together a lot of scenery so I like to show it off as well. 8)

Yes you did a very good job, and I was happy with our result, almost voted for you myself  but you didn't need my help  lol

If you think about it, presenting the names of the entrants serves no purpose whatsoever, other than letting people know that the entry is painting by someone we know, respect, and consider ourselves sort of "friends" with (in that weird online way). 

Gee... If that is true people must really hate me around here, at least during LPL S3R1. :)

you know I don't , though don't you  :D

You was robbed  :D

dodge

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 21, 2009, 04:56:34 PM
I think it's strange that we'd bend certain rules, however, but fail to recognize the value, and potential danger, of entrants' names.

I think we get the point. You think it would be fairer without the names of participants. I recall you made the same point in season 2, and I can understand your point of view although I don't personally have an issue with including names.

Can I suggest that you take it up with the Prof via PM ahead of the next season?
In terms of this thread, the point has been well made. May I please ask that we leave it there?  :)

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 21, 2009, 05:24:10 PM
Sigh..... :'(

Oh well.  Thanks again for overseeing the contest.  I know from personal experience that rules discussions can take the joy out of an otherwise fun event, especially for the person in charge of the rules.  I apologize for throwing this wrench into the gears.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 21, 2009, 05:50:52 PM
You've done well in past LPLs, you're obviously a great (and imaginitive) painter with a sense of humor...

Well, thank you. :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on April 21, 2009, 10:56:17 PM
Ok,

All whining, pissing, moaning, and geaneral "how comes" aside, the "gloves" are comin off for round 2!  >:(  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Heldrak on April 22, 2009, 02:47:39 AM
I'm not quite sure how I'm ahead on this one myself, as I fully expected to get dinked in the voting on the basis of not having a background...;) It's certainly not on the basis of my "famous name" either, as this is the first time I've been able to scrape together a team to enter the LPL.

The only thing I can think of is "The eyes have it" :o ;)

Painting facial detail is the thing that always interests me the most, so that's where I always spend the most time (and apparently it pays off...!).








@ Froggy and Vonkluge: look at this match, it's the perfect example that even group shots without any backdrops or scenery will win if enough voters like them: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10668.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10668.0)  :)


Gee, thanks!  ;) lol

Personally, I look for the paintjobs first and the background secondly. However, a dramatic backdrop can enhance the atmosphere greatly and as such it often adds a lot to the painted miniatures.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 22, 2009, 09:00:09 AM
thanks for the comments, lads! That was the basic idea of LPL, no anonymity, and I still like that. LPL for me is not a classical contest. LPL is a fun pastime for friends and usually the friends know each other.

I get the point but we won't change the rules :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 22, 2009, 10:05:05 AM
thanks for the comments, lads! That was the basic idea of LPL, no anonymity, and I still like that. LPL for me is not a classical contest. LPL is a fun pastime for friends and usually the friends know each other.

I get the point but we won't change the rules :)

Excellent.  I like it just as it is anyway.  Fun and friendly.  Why I enter really.   :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 22, 2009, 01:44:33 PM
thanks for the comments, lads! That was the basic idea of LPL, no anonymity, and I still like that. LPL for me is not a classical contest. LPL is a fun pastime for friends and usually the friends know each other.

I get the point but we won't change the rules :)



The man has spoken. I can't help but to add that I think Alex has set the tone of the competition not only in words but but also with many examples. The way you used to crank out miniatures and post them was what really attracted many of us to his site(s) in the first place. AND made at least me want to participate in the competition with a similar spirit ("Lookie here what I did last week!")
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 23, 2009, 08:17:45 PM
I was hoping to get some painting done during my lunch hour today but got almost exactly nothing done due to my brother. He came round to tell me about some pub quiz he was in or something but on seeing the LPL insisted I show him every single match up. He got really into it and was enjoying himself immensely, viewing them all and deciding which he liked best. He's not a painter, modeller or wargamer (though he's very interested in history and enjoys role-playing games) but had a great time 'spectating' on the LPL. I even let him spend my last remaining outstanding vote, on a match that I just couldn't separate, and had been mulling over for days in my mind. He was like a little kid, praising the ones he liked, slagging off the ones he didn't, and saying things like "He's getting squished!" on ones where the voting was very one-sided. I couldn't bloody get rid of him.

He wants to come over next week to see the next round (he's not on the net at his house) so he can peruse and make pronouncements on them again. Just wanted to share that with you fellows as I got quite a kick out of someone who's not a LAFer and nothing to do with the LAF getting so much enjoyment from the LPL.

 :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 23, 2009, 09:37:48 PM
Seems like a opinionated fellow. I am itching to ask what he thought of my entry, but I should not.  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 23, 2009, 11:50:59 PM
Tell him to sign up to LAF quick, then he can have votes of his own  ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: keeper on April 24, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
Random Question: If we've entered a different team for week2, can we post pics of our week1 entry elsewhere on the web, from Monday? Or do we have to wait until the end of the whole LPL competition?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 24, 2009, 07:08:02 PM
Random Question: If we've entered a different team for week2, can we post pics of our week1 entry elsewhere on the web, from Monday? Or do we have to wait until the end of the whole LPL competition?

I post mine all over the place once the round they are in is over, unless I intend to use them for a later round.  (Well, that's what I did last season.)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 24, 2009, 08:06:05 PM
Yep. Once the team is no longer competing, feel free to show here on LAF or wherever else you like.  :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on April 24, 2009, 08:22:46 PM
Or before

http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19491
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 24, 2009, 09:03:37 PM
Uh oh, he's in trouble.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on April 24, 2009, 09:12:39 PM
Oh, that's not allowed? I assumed I was safe as the miniature is online after all...with my name and all. If not, I won't do anymore.
Checked the rules again and nowhere it says what I'm doing is wrong. And no, don't do stuff like that to attract votes. I don't really care about the standings...only thing I care about is painting 5 figs each week and showing the result.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on April 24, 2009, 09:58:00 PM
By the time stamp on the post to FU-UK, Malebolgia's LPL entry would have already been in and accepted.  If nothing else, it should bring some more interest to the LPL. 

Anyways, Round 2 is in.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 24, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
Guidance posted further up this thread a few days ago.


On a similar subject, while I can't quite find it in the rules right now, just to remind everyone planning to participate, that it is 'not the done thing' to separately post extra pics elsewhere on this site, of a team that you have 'live' in the competition.

Clearly it makes a bit of a nonsense of the requirement to submit one image into the competition, if competitors are free to open up another thread on another board, and post loads of extra pictures of the same subject!
This removes the element of fairness from the competition, so I would kindly request that participants don't do this.

I know that most people know this already, and wouldn't dream - intentionally or otherwise - of influencing the outcome in this way. But maybe not everybody realises this, since I've seen it happen recently (not here in the LPL I should add).

Of course, once the week of the contest for that particular entry is finished, you should go ahead and post as many supplementary pics as you like in the appropriate board.  :)

Personally, when I'm in a competition, I try to avoid posting the pictures anywhere else (including on other forums) until the competition is finished. But this is not a rule as such. I leave it up to your conscience  lol

Thanks all  :)

So if no other pics have been posted here on LAF, no actual rules have been broken.

Obviously if you post additional pics of a 'live' entry on other forums with the intent of boosting your votes in the LPL, that would be very much against the spirit of the competition.
I'm sure that wasn't the case here.  :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on April 25, 2009, 01:17:58 AM
Okay, thanks for the quote...totally missed that one (I read the rules and the other topic by the Prof.). And to be honest, I never ever thought about attracting votes to my entry by posting it elsewhere. I just wanted to share my newly painted miniatures. But having read the quote and people's thoughts, I won't do it again. People just have to go here if they want to see entries :)
So sorry if I trespassed the rules and it surely won't happen again.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Havok on April 25, 2009, 01:37:06 AM
I'm evidently dense and blind :)

Can somone point me to where I can see the entries (past and present)?

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on April 25, 2009, 09:14:40 AM
Quote
I'm evidently dense and blind

Can somone point me to where I can see the entries (past and present)?
Top Right of every page there is a link to the league.
"Round 1 of Season 3 of the lead painters league is now open vor voting!"
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=22.0 (ftp://http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=22.0)
Also there is a separate board for the league on the index.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on April 25, 2009, 12:45:57 PM
Quote from: Malebolgia on Frothers
(Painted these five miniatures for the current Lead Painter's League. You'll have to paint five miniatures per week if you really want to compete. With ten rounds I can hope to clear out 50 miniatures from the unpainted pile! Each round you'll be paired against another person from the league. I assume the winner gets more points (never read the rules well :D)

Guess that explains it  ;D

But honestly, I know for a fact that Malebolgia spend a lot of time on getting his enty finished specifically for the LPL and didn't mean to do any harm by posting the pictures somewhere else. I guess he was just a bit to proud for finally not only producing nice miniatures, but also making cewl setups. Although the pictures were posted on a few other fora after being posted here, he could have first asked if it was in the spirit of the LPL. (And might have wondere why no one else posted his LPL pictures anywhere else)

A well, guess we won't see this happening again and Malebolgia will probably behave as a good boy form now on ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on April 25, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
A well, guess we won't see this happening again and Malebolgia will probably behave as a good boy form now on ;)

Or should the GG* punks take care of him otherwise ?  lol

meow,
Matt

*Groningen Gang  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 25, 2009, 02:15:36 PM
Being somewhat nervous of the prospect of painting horses, I've been concentrating on Round 5, to make sure I give myself enough time to get them done. But I just realised: I've got nothing for rounds 3 and 4!

Yikes, better get a wriggle on.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on April 27, 2009, 07:08:54 AM
Good grief.
If there's one thing I'm just not good at it's painting eyes; but that seems horribly easy compared to voting this year! Some of the choices you have to make are plain cruel!
What a show.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: MadMö on April 27, 2009, 08:40:24 AM
I symply love the LPL.
Going to work...
Fetch coffee...
And see outstanding paint jobs.
Great way to start the day.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on April 27, 2009, 01:11:45 PM
Wow.  I have never seen anything like this - there were what, three totally tied contests after something like 70 voters this morning?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on April 27, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
every vote this year has been hard, even if the voting shows an outright winner after I've voted it's still been close when I have to decide.

But there were more this morning when I came to vote, so hard, I'm glad it's just a bit of fun  :)

dodge
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on April 28, 2009, 07:41:44 PM
Hey Cap'n Blood,


Quick question/suggestion, I know you have probably had enough of them to last a lifetime since agreeing to run the LPL3 compitition! I was wondering if since the last round has a possibility of haveing 10+ figures and a "large" beast in it we might allow two pictures for the last round? a group shot and then some closer small highlights shots? Just a thought, don't hang me.... ::)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 28, 2009, 07:55:06 PM
Quick question/suggestion, I know you have probably had enough of them to last a lifetime since agreeing to run the LPL3 compitition! I was wondering if since the last round has a possibility of haveing 10+ figures and a "large" beast in it we might allow two pictures for the last round? a group shot and then some closer small highlights shots? Just a thought, don't hang me.... ::)


You can, of course, embed highlight shots within your group shot, as I believe Hammers did in his Round 2 Chinese marketplace picture.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on April 28, 2009, 08:03:06 PM
Yes Mancha I've done that too, I was just thinking it might be nice to have a little extra room for our last round considering it will be a crowed "frame" if people do paint all the figures possible and I'd like to see more of these great paintjobs!  :o I did not to mean to suggest the types of shots only an additional 800x800 pixel shot for whatever. :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on April 28, 2009, 08:13:47 PM
Quick question/suggestion, I know you have probably had enough of them to last a lifetime since agreeing to run the LPL3 compitition! I was wondering if since the last round has a possibility of haveing 10+ figures and a "large" beast in it we might allow two pictures for the last round? a group shot and then some closer small highlights shots? Just a thought, don't hang me.... ::)


You can, of course, embed highlight shots within your group shot, as I believe Hammers did in his Round 2 Chinese marketplace picture.

Sorry, can't take credit for that one. Think it was Grimm.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 28, 2009, 08:54:14 PM
Yes Mancha I've done that too, I was just thinking it might be nice to have a little extra room for our last round considering it will be a crowed "frame" if people do paint all the figures possible and I'd like to see more of these great paintjobs!  :o I did not to mean to suggest the types of shots only an additional 800x800 pixel shot for whatever. :D

That would probably be giving an additional advantage to new entries, as old entries continuing through into Round 10 would presumably still be under the requirement of a single shot.  Of course you're not interested in my opinion, so we'll see what The Cap'n has to say...  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 28, 2009, 09:03:28 PM
I need a little bit of a rules clarification myself.  In any round other than Round 5, does a mounted figure count as one or two of the five-man team?  Obviously animals have been counting as one of the team, so presumably a figure on a mount would count as two, right?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on April 28, 2009, 09:40:42 PM
I need a little bit of a rules clarification myself.  In any round other than Round 5, does a mounted figure count as one or two of the five-man team?  Obviously animals have been counting as one of the team, so presumably a figure on a mount would count as two, right?

I think that's wrong.  If it were right then why isn't round five just three mounted figures?  And I'm sure if I had entered in Round one just one "foot" commander and the two mounted officers it would not have been "Game Legal."  (Of course, I could be wrong.)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 28, 2009, 09:50:43 PM
It's pretty clear as laid out. 'Five or more mounted figures' it says. Two-and-a-half chaps on two-and-a-half horses is not five mounted figures.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 28, 2009, 10:17:20 PM
It's pretty clear as laid out. 'Five or more mounted figures' it says. Two-and-a-half chaps on two-and-a-half horses is not five mounted figures.

Round 5 is perfectly clear--it requires five mounted figures--I understand that this means five riders and five horses.

However, I am not asking about Round 5; I am asking about other rounds.  Would two mounted riders and a single 'foot' count as a team, or must there be five individually-based team members?  I guess I'm asking; what constitutes a team member?  I'll remind you; it's not an obvious answer.  In Season 2, a vehicle counted as a team member. 

I hope this is the case, because I would love to enter a team composed of only two mounted officers and a single foot (although I won't try to do so in Round 5).  This is probably the only way I'll be painting a horse for this competition.   :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on April 28, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. I Should read more carefully. I don't know the answer, but I don't like the idea of a horse and rider counting as two team members personally. Seems rules lawyerish to me, looking for loopholes. But that's just me.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Bugsda on April 28, 2009, 10:24:30 PM
Now's not the time to ask about Siamese twins I suppose ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on April 28, 2009, 10:26:44 PM
Now's not the time to ask about Siamese twins I suppose ;)

or pregnant women?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on April 28, 2009, 10:29:22 PM
...but I don't like the idea of a horse and rider counting as two team members personally.

I don't either, but I want to know the rule.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on April 28, 2009, 11:28:19 PM
A figure on foot is one team member. An animal on its own is one team member. A mounted figure (man and rider together) is one team member. A centaur or similar man/beast hybrid is one team member. A vehicle is one team member.

Round 10 will be one 800x800 pic same as the other rounds. As long as you get a group shot into your entry, you can use the rest of that space to include as many cutaways and close-ups as you want. I totally understand the reason for the suggestion, but really think it would be better to stick to the rules we've agreed for the competition for the duration.

But what I am doing is logging all such constructive suggestions, and they can be taken into consideration ahead of the next season.  :)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: garyapsledene on May 08, 2009, 01:10:11 PM
The picture looks just great
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Orctrader on May 08, 2009, 01:30:27 PM
Round three on Monday?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on May 08, 2009, 06:39:34 PM
Round 3 on Monday. Any new teams or replacement entries to me by 0700 GMT Sunday morning (10th May) please. I've had replacement teams from most people, but not all. Please remember, you don't have to send me a replacement team, but if you don't, then your team from round 2 will progress into round 3 against a different opponent.

Let's get a few more contestants and see if we can break the new server! Yay!
...or maybe not  ;)

As the polls are still running intact and perfectly well in round 2, and as round 2 only ran for 4 days before being rudely interrupted, I now suggest we leave them running until the end of the weekend so anyone that hasn't yet voted in round 2 still has the chance to do so...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on May 08, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
By the way. If you've sent me a new or replacement team and you HAVEN'T had an acknowledgement from me, that means I haven't received it. So please double check that I've acknowledged receipt of entries for round 3 and beyond. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on May 08, 2009, 07:20:21 PM
Darn...

I was hoping the forum would be down another couple days...  ::)

Looks like it's down to the wire for Round 3 for me.  Now where is my camera...  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on May 08, 2009, 08:09:53 PM
Let's get a few more contestants and see if we can break the new server! Yay!
...or maybe not  ;)


Mmmmm lets not I'm only just recovering from this short break  o_o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on May 09, 2009, 12:54:35 PM

Let's get a few more contestants and see if we can break the new server! Yay!
...or maybe not  ;)

Hey! I was Punk in my youth. Let's go for it!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Admiral Benbow on May 13, 2009, 04:18:42 PM
Captain, I need some clarifications about round 10 and the "beast"-part. You wrote "a large dinosaur, woolly mammoth, giant ape, or similar prehistoric leviathan". So what exactly is allowed? ANY large beast? A giant ape is not prehistoric, well, no more than a large spider. Or a human giant? A beast like the Rancor monster from Star Wars? A dragon?
 8)
Questions over questions ...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on May 13, 2009, 06:08:57 PM
Well...

I'm going to be painting up a large chicken like creature.   :)

Hopefully, that will count.   :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on May 13, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
Hello all,

Just a few words to tell you that I coundn't take part in the two next rounds cause I have very importants job interviews in two weeks, and I have to prepare them seriously.  So no time for painting at all (and to keep up to learn how to take photos).
I'm a bit sorry cause it was my initial goal to post 10 pics (and paint as much as possible). But never mind, when I saw the efforts Alex made to "save" the forum, I can't complaint : let's just say I missed you, chaps (and ladies !)

Au plaisir,
Matt 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on May 13, 2009, 07:39:49 PM
Hello all,

Just a few words to tell you that I coundn't take part in the two next rounds cause I have very importants job interviews in two weeks, and I have to prepare them seriously.  So no time for painting at all (and to keep up to learn how to take photos).
I'm a bit sorry cause it was my initial goal to post 10 pics (and paint as much as possible). But never mind, when I saw the efforts Alex made to "save" the forum, I can't complaint : let's just say I missed you, chaps (and ladies !)

Au plaisir,
Matt 

Well unfortunately I have to agree you are doing the sensible thing. There will be other LPL's so go for it and good luck.

Svennn
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on May 13, 2009, 07:43:14 PM
Captain, I need some clarifications about round 10 and the "beast"-part. You wrote "a large dinosaur, woolly mammoth, giant ape, or similar prehistoric leviathan". So what exactly is allowed? ANY large beast? A giant ape is not prehistoric, well, no more than a large spider. Or a human giant? A beast like the Rancor monster from Star Wars? A dragon?
 8)
Questions over questions ...


Well I don't want to be too prescriptive, but the intent is for a giant beastie, as opposed to just a large animal.
So a sabretooth isn't really much bigger than a lion - so I wouldn't say that counts as a giant or leviathan.
A giant spider? Well, I'd say a Shelob sized spider would pass.
But really we are talking dinosaurs, woolly mammoths, King-Kongs and the like.
It's not really possible to give a totally comprehensive list of what does / doesn't count as a large beast, but I hope the intent is clear.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on May 13, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Sad to hear that Mat, but I thinkit's a good decision too.
Good luck.  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on May 17, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
Thanks for the support, old chaps !
But I didn't expect such reasonnable voices here : aren't we supposed to be the old children who play with toy toldiers  ;) ?

meow,
Matt
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on May 17, 2009, 05:50:57 PM
To the Prof and Cap'n Blood,

I'm not cryin sour grapes now that the match is over between me and "Mancha" as he did a great job and I feel great just having stayed neck and neck with one of the best entries posted! :-* but I think one rule needs to be amended for future contest. Since we are getting a lot of votes the rule governing ties should really be based on a percentage % of diference insted of a hard number. That way it reflects the real difference in popularity based on number of votes cast. :) IMHO
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on May 17, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
...but I think one rule needs to be amended for future contest. Since we are getting a lot of votes the rule governing ties should really be based on a percentage % of diference insted of a hard number. That way it reflects the real difference in popularity based on number of votes cast. :) IMHO


First, I’m not sure the match is officially “over”.  In fact, I’m a little worried that you’ll earn one more point, which single point would have a dramatic effect.   :(

On to your other comments:  To review, the rule is that a difference of five or fewer votes between two entries results in a “tie” (with 20 points going to each participant), while a difference of six or more results in one of the entries winning (and earning 30 points) and the other losing (and earning only 10 points). 

You are suggesting that a difference of six votes is a big difference if only fifty votes have been cast, while six votes is a very small, perhaps inconsequential difference if 200 votes have been cast, right?  I see your point.  However, it might be too much to ask to expect everyone to do a percentage calculation in order to figure out whether they won or not.  Also, I think the rules are intended to reward close matches like this by giving extra points based on sheer number of votes.  (What Alex taketh away with one hand, he giveth with the other.)  I definitely see your point though. 

For my part, I’ve been wondering how our match earned about fifteen more votes than most other matches?  I guess voters were inspired.

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on May 17, 2009, 07:26:22 PM
...For my part, I’ve been wondering how our match earned about fifteen more votes than most other matches?  I guess voters were inspired...

I never think about looking at the numbers of  voters in the different matches before but that is odd… maybe it’s because people simply don’t vote when they can decide which entry they think is the best…

200 person voted on your match against Vonkluge while "only" 169 persons vote on the match between me and Sterling Moose
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on May 17, 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Yes the difference in votes was interesting to me to (I admit I hit refresh over 456 times lol), I chalked it up to people simply being interested in the match seeing the number of views and figured it must be something to see! Some people may start their voting there and get interrupted never to finish with the other matches, I don't know. Also it being very close I’m sure both Mancha and I have friends here who come and cast just on our contest (did you know my mom is a member of LAF! Lol no just kidding!)

As for my idea to use a percentage it would be simple math equation that the competitors would never have to do since we do not moderate the competition results. That is done by the Prof or in this case Cap'n blood. The formula is simple. Say you set it at 5% difference constatuits a tie, the formula would be .05 x 100 = 5 ( 100 being the final vote count or what ever the final vote count would be) giving a difference of  “5”  + or - for it to be considered a tie. This would then balance the contest across the board with everyone getting a win, loss, or tie by the same “margin”. I do not know if they figure out the wins/loss/points on paper or use a spreadsheet like "EXCEL" but I would recomend using a Spreadsheet as it is very easy to do and will take a lot of the work (pain) out of you Sundays Prof" & Cap'n ;D

I'll have to reread the points system as I do not realy know about the awarding of points for views? I thought it was a award based on the difference in # of votes so that in a landslide the winner got more points?

Once again great stuff everyone! And I learned some, was inspired, and bit all the nails off one hand! Lol I’m letting the “Gladiators” ride cause my camera is “kaput” for this week!

Bill
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on May 17, 2009, 09:55:14 PM
Also it being very close I’m sure both Mancha and I have friends here who come and cast just on our contest (did you know my mom is a member of LAF! Lol no just kidding!)


Actually, this thought has crossed my mind, and it kind of bothers me.  I doubt anyone here considers themselves my "friend" (or at least, no more or less so than is anyone else on the forum), and this is literally the only painting forum/community I belong to at the moment, so I would be very surprised if anyone is voting for my entry because it is from me.  My sincerest hope is that people from other online communities are not being sent over here at some entrant's behest, so as to vote for that entrant and then more or less disappear.  That would be uncool.


I'll have to reread the points system as I do not realy know about the awarding of points for views? I thought it was a award based on the difference in # of votes so that in a landslide the winner got more points?


The difference in votes determines who wins, ties and loses (with different points being awarded in each case).  Extra points are then awarded based on the number of votes (not views), with each block of ten votes earning an extra point, up to 50 votes and five points.  In our recent match, we both earned the maximum five points for votes.  Given the huge viewership nowadays, I suspect most entries earn at least some portion of these five votes, if not all of them. 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on May 17, 2009, 10:19:08 PM
Actualy I ment People already here who are fans of your work, my work, or anyones partiular style. Yes I would hope people would not vote solely on friendship, but in a case of a tight race its going to happen where they are both great entries and that will be the deciding factor.

Ok time to work on week #5!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 18, 2009, 05:21:27 AM
Thanks for your ideas, lads. We will definitely take into consideration your suggestions. But now I want to ask you a favour. Please let us discuss the rules first after the end of Season 3. Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on May 18, 2009, 08:22:24 AM
Another round (4) of sheer mini goodness!

Some truly amazing entries!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on May 19, 2009, 05:28:35 PM
End of Disscusion   :-X   ::)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Overlord on May 21, 2009, 03:54:02 PM
I've just noticed something rather curious. ???

Looking at the voting for some (I didnt check them all) of the entries, I noticed that for all those I checked that the total of the 2 individual scores does not match the total displayed!  It is out by one vote each time.

It makes little difference in the grand scheme of things, I assume its a small bug in the Polls calculation.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on May 21, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
I've just noticed something rather curious. ???

Looking at the voting for some (I didnt check them all) of the entries, I noticed that for all those I checked that the total of the 2 individual scores does not match the total displayed!  It is out by one vote each time.

It makes little difference in the grand scheme of things, I assume its a small bug in the Polls calculation.

Someone’s finally get a way to vote for both entry then?  ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 22, 2009, 04:06:19 AM
You know, I delete users with zero posts after 4 weeks after registration. That's the reason. The scores won't be calculated again but the total of the voters.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mad Carew Snr on May 22, 2009, 07:06:29 AM
You know, I delete users with zero posts after 4 weeks after registration. That's the reason. The scores won't be calculated again but the total of the voters.

Ahhh so this explains why the Total Members number goes up and down so often! Glad I got the courage to post something!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 22, 2009, 07:11:52 AM
yes, that's the explanation. Just yesterday I've deleted a dozen of "zeros" :))
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Heldrak on May 22, 2009, 11:52:45 PM
Stoopid horses! I don't know if I'm going to make it...!! >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on May 23, 2009, 01:32:44 AM
I chickened out, and finished some Boarboyz who needed some brushy lovin'. Horses...I think they are harder to paint because of their lines - besides, the womenfolk are much harsher if you don't get them right, what with all the pony adoration stuff.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on May 23, 2009, 07:19:01 PM
Oh, this is going to be a bad one for me.....
It's like this: I was painting 5 beasties and their riders, see, and of course I just had to add some extra stuff. And I never made it. So instead.... well, you'll see. I painted them up this week, they're new, and there's the required cavalry.... still.....  :(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on May 23, 2009, 10:59:00 PM
Finished painting this afternoon. But I am still struggling with a new camera. Still haven't got a good photo and my battery just died! :'(
I can't even get the photos I have taken out of the camera.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on May 24, 2009, 12:46:34 AM
At last the photo done and dusted. Email sent.
Last minute stuff.
Hopefully do better next week.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on May 24, 2009, 12:59:49 AM
mutter mutter mutter damn horses anyway mutter mutter mutter

 ;)

Actually, horses and riders are done, based and only need lances glued in place in a mo. Dullcote, leave it to dry for an hour or two, then I'll still have daylight for photos and time to edit before the deadline...

Then I get a week off, because Round 6 was done and photographed at the same time as Round 4. And Round 7 is coming together nicely, and involves no damn horses!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Heldrak on May 25, 2009, 05:56:35 AM
I'm surprised to see how many people opted out of the cavalry option for round 5 (not that I blame 'em as getting my entry done was nearly the end of me... :'().
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on May 25, 2009, 09:50:32 AM
It was the hardest round yet for me.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: keeper on May 26, 2009, 12:08:36 AM
It was the hardest round yet for me.

Yes indeed - my closest entry to the deadline, yet!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on June 07, 2009, 10:10:38 PM
I would like to apologize for my lack of new entries in the last rounds : my poor tirailleurs are very tired as I am to see them so I swear to send a new pic next week.

Really sorry,
Matt   
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Jase on June 08, 2009, 07:34:13 AM
Same here, my Hobbits are getting a bit old, so next round there'll be a new pic from me as well.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: dodge on June 08, 2009, 09:01:27 AM
Well I've been well stuffed, round 5 was last new entry, and I have struggled ever since to complete another,

still struggling on  :D

dodge
Title: Some of our Painters are Missing?
Post by: Plynkes on June 08, 2009, 09:16:51 AM
I was just looking around to find out how my round from last week turned out and I can't find it. There are only a handful of the Round 6 crop in the Season 3 child board. Anybody know where the missing entries are?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 08, 2009, 09:26:35 AM
No. That's very peculiar... I moved them all at the same time, one after another. Can't work out why some have moved and some have disappeared  :?

I've had a quick look and I can't see them... Will have to ask The Prof if he can retrieve them somehow...

Fortunately I already took down the results, so I can assemble the leaderboard - although I didn't note down the actual votes cast, so if we can't recover the missing matches, the points difference for round 6 will have gone west...  :(

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on June 08, 2009, 09:30:51 AM
Oh man. Why couldn't you lose the week where I was getting my arse kicked, not vice versa!  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 08, 2009, 09:32:42 AM
I'm sure we'll find them, but if not, then I'm equally sure everyone knows what the votes were in their matches, right?  ;)

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on June 08, 2009, 09:43:32 AM
Well, I know I tied, at exactly five points apart, but mine is one of the Round 6 entries still up on the LPL3 childboard, so that's not a worry.

Apparently ranting about slottabases wins points - who knew?  :)

I've also managed to get a new round in every entry, somehow, with a few bouts of sub-standard rushed photography... Round 8 is painting up quite nicely, but I've no idea what Round 9 will consist of... and only about half of the Round 10 blowout is painted up to an acceptable standard so far...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 08, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
Oh man. Why couldn't you lose the week where I was getting my arse kicked, not vice versa!  lol
Because luck favours the Maltese...  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 08, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
The Prof has tracked down the missing items and will be restoring them a little later on...

I do have the leaderboard ready, and although the 'votes difference' almost certainly won't make any difference to the standings, we might as well wait and get it right.

There will therefore be a bit of a delay before the leaderboard is posted (probably this evening or tomorrow).

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on June 08, 2009, 12:25:16 PM
the missing items are back  8)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 08, 2009, 12:42:17 PM
Thanks Alex  :)

Sorry - I have too much Celt in me to be a shining model of Teutonic Efficiency  ;)

I shall try harder!

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 09, 2009, 02:40:01 PM
I would like to have some additional info on the rules regarding "New Team" in LPL. I know they aren’t suppose to be on the Net before the competition but can we post them elsewhere on the LAF during their current round in the LPL?  :?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on June 09, 2009, 02:53:01 PM
I would like to have some additional info on the rules regarding "New Team" in LPL. I know they aren’t suppose to be on the Net before the competition but can we post them elsewhere on the LAF during their current round in the LPL?  :?

please not, first after the end of the round.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 09, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
Paint a team of newly discovered primitives or prehistoric survivals and a team of five or more Lost World explorers and adventurers and get 20 bonus points.

Does said leviathan have to be depicted as alive or recently killed?  I've got an idea for a confrontation over skeletal leviathanal remains.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 09, 2009, 07:57:23 PM
Paint a team of newly discovered primitives or prehistoric survivals and a team of five or more Lost World explorers and adventurers and get 20 bonus points.

Does said leviathan have to be depicted as alive or recently killed?  I've got an idea for a confrontation over skeletal leviathanal remains.

If said leviathanal remains were recognisably those of a very big creature, fine. There is nothing to say it has to be alive. For instance, a group of cavemen with a mammoth they had just slain would certainly count.
If it's just a pile of bones, no, that wouldn't qualify.
 :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 09, 2009, 08:09:15 PM
How about a bunch of cavemen quarrelling over some brits over a dragon skeleton?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 09, 2009, 08:12:52 PM
lol lol

Does it look like a dragon, or does it look like a pile of bones?
It's not truthfully in line with the intent of the theme, is it?
It's supposed to be a big 'lost world' creature - not a skeleton...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Bugsda on June 09, 2009, 09:43:39 PM
What if someone couldn't really be bothered to paint a dinosaur and just fished one out of their kids toy box and posed some figures round it? ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on June 09, 2009, 10:04:20 PM
What if someone couldn't really be bothered to paint a dinosaur and just fished one out of their kids toy box and posed some figures round it? ;)

I for one would be greatly annoyed - I don't have kids :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 09, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
What if someone couldn't really be bothered to paint a dinosaur and just fished one out of their kids toy box and posed some figures round it? ;)

Perhaps one could make a token effort to paint it. A bit.  ;)

There are no rules on how much painting needs to done on any particular miniature or other component. The voters will decide if it's a cop out or not! (If they can spot it... )

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Bugsda on June 10, 2009, 12:33:47 AM
Maybe not, I wouldn't want to upset Svenn lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Svennn on June 10, 2009, 06:44:40 AM
Bottom line is your kids did not, and I am guessing here, magically obtain their dinoosaurs. I am thinking there is a good chance of some involvement from your good self in their procurement. Possession is 9/10th of the law but that still makes them 1/10th yours so go for it. :)

I'm just jealous - and don't think I have not been scouring other peoples kids toy boxes in recent weeks myself.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 10, 2009, 07:33:10 AM
What if someone couldn't really be bothered to paint a dinosaur and just fished one out of their kids toy box and posed some figures round it? ;)

Perhaps one could make a token effort to paint it. A bit.  ;)

 ::) :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 11, 2009, 08:43:57 AM
Entry 8 is getting there! I've finished three miniatures and all scenery and the last two miniatures are halfway done.

I lost my momentum after round 6 and already felt worn out by the LPL. The pace is so fast and the painting pressure a real killer. But the idea that I will have painted 5+5+5+6+5+6+5+11=48 miniatures in 10 weeks time is just fantastic. It also makes sure I can do Cthulhu games fully painted.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on June 12, 2009, 07:23:01 AM
Wheew, finished my round 8 entry last night. I had a couple of beers before I started painting but I think it worked out in the end :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 12, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
While I have a possibility for a R8 entry done, the figures I want to enter are still mostly Arctic Camo.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 12, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Wheew, finished my round 8 entry last night. I had a couple of beers before I started painting but I think it worked out in the end :)

 :o Oh my… a drunken chimp is doing better than me in the LPL…   ;)  lol

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 12, 2009, 02:27:47 PM
Eh.
Speaking as an occupant of the bottom quarter: I know my worth, and I'm just having fun with the LPL instead of obsessing over my ranking.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on June 12, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
Eh.
Speaking as an occupant of the bottom quarter: I know my worth, and I'm just having fun with the LPL instead of obsessing over my ranking.

That's the spirit. Power to you, brother.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 12, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
My comments about my ranking are not to be taken seriously, I too participate in the LPL just for the fun of It… I wouldn’t even dream to be among the top ranking peoples. I’m really comfortable with how I’m doing so far and with the ranking I have. I have to say though that I’m proud of myself since I managed to present new team every weeks… some were close to the deadline though… lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 12, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
Rd 8 finished and away early.
Now on to round 9 and try and do some of Rd 10 at the same time.
I am getting to thinking that I may have bitten off more than I can chew with the choices I have made.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mr.J on June 13, 2009, 12:22:18 AM
Just finished all my entries!
Now no painting for me for the next three months though as I am off to the US for summer.
Had to do the last ones in a hurry but overall I am fairly pleased with them, just glad I managed to squeeze them in before I go
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on June 13, 2009, 12:41:59 AM
I am getting to thinking that I may have bitten off more than I can chew with the choices I have made.

Aye, me and all, as far as the final two rounds go. Only just made it this week as it is, and had to take some time off work to get it done, plus painted until one in the morning last night. As it is my entry for this week will be a rushed job that I'm not entirely happy with. I'm loving the LPL but it is killing me! Shall breathe a huge sigh at the finish, get drunk and sleep for two days.  :)

On the other hand I'm chuffed with how much I'm getting done. The incentive of the deadline means my productivity has skyrocketed. I'm really going to try and emulate it in my normal painting to a degree after the league is done, and carry on the LPL in my head, just to keep churning out the figures.


Also, I've found a secret weapon. Play the following song on an endless loop and it makes you paint faster* (I'm the slowest painter in the world normally). Just like listening to Motorhead on the Autobahn makes you drive faster, this will make you work faster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3jHvvn-vFQ&feature=related


*Only trouble is, it will also drive you insane.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 13, 2009, 01:23:34 AM
I honestly believe I would rather slam my junk in a car door than listen to that for more than the requisite 15 seconds I just gave it.

(shudder)

Me, I worry not about my location on the board - I'm paintin', and that is what matters. Actually, my production skyrocketed when I lost my job, so between the LPL and more time, I have painted more figures in the last 3 weeks than I had in the previous 6 months.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 13, 2009, 01:27:14 AM
I think it would be far kinder to recommend a metal plate under the feet that slowly heats up and only stops when the figure is finished.



I completly agree...  that "song" is horrific...  I just tend to put on some TV series and watch/listen them at the same time as painting. This LPL actually already "forced" me to watch all 5 seasons of Andromeda within 6 weeks :)

Then again, I actually mainly cared about finishing a lot of projects I never got around to finishing (or even starting) and I'm doing a good job as far as I'm concerned and enjoying myself a lot with the painting and picture taking.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on June 13, 2009, 09:19:06 AM
Well I like it, you miserable bastards!  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 13, 2009, 11:16:41 AM
Well I like it, you miserable bastards!  lol
Where's the vomitting icon?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Raz on June 13, 2009, 04:38:56 PM
Well, just sent in my entries for round 8 & 9. As of tomorrow morning I'm on holiday in Denmark. Enjoy the painting, voting and viewing of other peoples work everybody. See you in two weeks.

Raz
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 13, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
Not bad at all - must try it wjhilst correcting dissertations.  :D

Had to send in a reserve squad for week 8 - gah  :(
On a more positive note, I finally found time to get a beastie for week 10 - it's actually one of a bag of 6, but that didn't stop me - they were VERY cheap.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 13, 2009, 08:00:02 PM
Can a stuffed Barney dino count for a beastie? lol

I think I will have no choice but to let go the bonus point for round 10… I’m still wondering what I will do as my entry for that last round.  :?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on June 14, 2009, 07:11:59 AM
Round 8 was emailed whole hours ahead of deadline, I could have actually finished Round 9 this evening if beer hadn't seemed like a more interesting idea, and Round 10's bonus beastie was finished last week.

Round 10's exploration team are ticking along nicely, and the Lost World residents are doing OK... I hate painting fleshtones, and there's entirely too much #%#$# flesh to paint on the damn things...

I may actually be organized. Shocking.

I do know I'm having fun - gotten more painting done since April than the preceeding twelve months!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: keeper on June 14, 2009, 09:58:37 AM
Well I like it, you miserable bastards!  lol

My three year-old likes your song, Plynkes :) She's dancing away right now!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 14, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
As Round 7 comes to a close, it goes down as the best round of the League so far, at least for me.

Congratulations to Grimm, Tellus, Plynkes and Chambers and their truly epic confrontations and beautiful brushwork.

No matter what the outcome, you folks are definately some of the best painters around these parts and kept me sitting on the edge of my seat all week long.

Great job guys!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 14, 2009, 01:07:05 PM
As Round 7 comes to a close, it goes down as the best round of the League so far, at least for me.

Congratulations to Grimm, Tellus, Plynkes and Chambers and their truly epic confrontations and beautiful brushwork.

No matter what the outcome, you folks are definately some of the best painters around these parts and kept me sitting on the edge of my seat all week long.

Great job guys!
But I have to add I always look forward to finding Scooby  :D :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 14, 2009, 02:00:19 PM

But I have to add I always look forward to finding Scooby  :D :D

He'll be a bit more difficult to spot next round...  ;)

Thankfully, as we move into Round 8, we can almost see the finish line of the LPL marathon....  o_o

Even my brush is drooping a bit...  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 14, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
Also, I've found a secret weapon. Play the following song on an endless loop and it makes you paint faster* (I'm the slowest painter in the world normally). Just like listening to Motorhead on the Autobahn makes you drive faster, this will make you work faster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3jHvvn-vFQ&feature=related


*Only trouble is, it will also drive you insane.

I too kind of like this song… maybe not enough to play it all day though.

Anyway, I find a far better way to stay at may painting table thanks to the girl next door who decide to take a sun bath just in from of my window!  :o
So far I’ve painted the upper left corner of my computer’s keyboard, my coffee mug and all my fingers at least once… mind you, I managed to paint some figures in between all this mess… focus, focus…  ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 14, 2009, 06:01:25 PM
Round 8 is in for me as well, but I could not, after innumerable tries and 3 hours, get a good photo. We were having one of those gray but glary sorts of days, and I could not convince the camera that what the light level really was, so it got washed out by the flash. BUT, they are done, and nifty.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on June 15, 2009, 09:53:03 AM
Wheew, finished my round 8 entry last night. I had a couple of beers before I started painting but I think it worked out in the end :)

 :o Oh my… a drunken chimp is doing better than me in the LPL…   ;)  lol



Well, I am losing this round ;)

I'm not sure if I can finish a new team for round 9 but if I can't I'll send in the zombies. I based my beastie for round 10 but I haven't painted anything yet.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 15, 2009, 02:56:48 PM
Left comments on all new entries. Been a while since I left some comments on the entries :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 19, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
My greatest success this far in LPL3: managing to send in the pic for next week on Friday instead of Saturday.  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 19, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
My round 9 is just away, a day early again. Now on to round ten.
I'll be sweating buckets over this one. :'(
I really doubt it will go in a day early. ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on June 21, 2009, 07:12:10 AM
And a whole 52 minutes before deadline, my Round 9 entry is in!

Fun painting, but I kind of ran out of steam on the photography... On to finish up the last details of my Round 10 blowout!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 21, 2009, 01:29:44 PM
Urgh.  Missed the deadline again.

On the other hand, I did paint figure #365 for the year last night, just not as part of a patch of five.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on June 22, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
Well, I managed to paint my round 9 entry last monday and tuesday (just in time for tuesday's game) which I sent piccies of on thrusday leaving me with some days to spare for round 10. I finished my beast and am halfway through my natives but I'm still not sure about the colour scheme for my adventurers.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 22, 2009, 12:11:07 PM
I have finished the adventurers last week (therefore no week 9 entry) and I will work on my natives and beasty this week. So much to do...so little time...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 23, 2009, 11:27:21 AM
Paint a team with at least five of each (primitives and adventurers) and add a large dinosaur, woolly mammoth, giant ape, or similar prehistoric leviathan, and get a monster 30 bonus points!
Ok:
5 primitive types - very shaky check, work in progress
5 adventurers - sort of, still to be started
1 large beastie - less shaky this time, and getting near to completion

Scenery - searching for (item) one (1) box (box)

Supporting cast of thousands - WIP*








*not  ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 23, 2009, 11:54:50 AM
5 lost world natives half done :'(
5 adventurers half done :'(
1 big beastie half done :'(
Where has the last 10/11 weeks gone ???
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 23, 2009, 12:22:41 PM
1 beastie done,
1 explorer done
5 explorers half done
5 native half done
Only one free evening left this week, and maybe sunday midday....  Crap...  not sure if I can make it :(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 23, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
5 Adventurers done
5 natives started...(1/4 done)
Beast still in bits :(
Gonna be one helluva week!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 23, 2009, 12:37:57 PM

I still need to decide what I will do for round 10… So far the 3 choices I have are;

a) a bunch of WWII German that are halfway done,
b) Malamute’s Zorro figures (only white primed right now) or…
c) A bunch of Cavemen and Cavegirls… almost finish but some of them have already been seen on the LAF so they won’t be a "new team"…

 :?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 23, 2009, 01:15:02 PM
Cavemen:  Done
Beastie:  Done, so long as it's ok that it's skeletal, dead, and possibly being gloated/fought over by said cavemen.
Explorers: You gotta be kidding me.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on June 23, 2009, 02:04:28 PM
Having been experimenting with layouts, the biggest issue with doing a full blowout Lost World mess for Round 10 is going to be getting it all in inside the 800x800 image size limit we've got! Five explorers, five Lost World denizens, one leviathan critter, scenery so it doesn't look boring... not quite sure how it's all going to work in 800x800...

Explorers: eyeballs just finished (always the last thing I do)
Neanderthals: ditto
Lost World Giant Critter: ditto

They'll all go outside for dullcote after breakfast, barring touchup painting when I look them over one last time!

Being grossly underemployed is hard on the bank balance, but great for getting gaming projects done...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 23, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Having been experimenting with layouts, the biggest issue with doing a full blowout Lost World mess for Round 10 is going to be getting it all in inside the 800x800 image size limit we've got! Five explorers, five Lost World denizens, one leviathan critter, scenery so it doesn't look boring... not quite sure how it's all going to work in 800x800...

Exactly. I don't have a clue how I'm going to fit 11 miniatures in a shot and make them big enough to see well. I think I'll be doing one total shot for the coolness and one shot with closeup like I did for the 'The Sands of Time' entry. But it will be a difficult one!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 23, 2009, 05:21:20 PM
No way I can do this.

Have one and a half adventurers painted.  Six primitives and large animal based and primed.

Disaster awaits...  :'(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 23, 2009, 05:31:16 PM
No way I can do this.

Have one and a half adventurers painted.  Six primitives and large animal based and primed.

Disaster awaits...  :'(
Hey Ray look on the bright side - Scooby's done  ;)

My solution to the adventurers will probably NOT get me the bonus points.... still, it could be interesting, so what the heck  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Overlord on June 23, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
No way I can do this.
Have one and a half adventurers painted.  Six primitives and large animal based and primed.
Disaster awaits...  :'(
I'm in a similar predicament.  :'(
1 Adventurer mostly painted
4 Adventurers flesh only painted
5 Cavemen undercoated
1 Creature undercoated 
A race against time.......sounds like the tagline for a movie  :D

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 23, 2009, 06:47:20 PM

Hey Ray look on the bright side - Scooby's done  ;)

 :) 

True... I'm just a cry baby...  :'(

But I'm making progress... I've now got my primitives' eyes painted...  :o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 23, 2009, 08:19:53 PM
Keep at it men! Glory awaits...  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Moriarty on June 23, 2009, 10:50:56 PM
Glory I already have - who else has such an impressive votes difference total? Have to work hard to get it to the 1k mark by Round 10, though. Might have to try the old 'Iranian voting tactic'.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on June 24, 2009, 07:41:49 AM
Having been experimenting with layouts, the biggest issue with doing a full blowout Lost World mess for Round 10 is going to be getting it all in inside the 800x800 image size limit we've got! Five explorers, five Lost World denizens, one leviathan critter, scenery so it doesn't look boring... not quite sure how it's all going to work in 800x800...

Exactly. I don't have a clue how I'm going to fit 11 miniatures in a shot and make them big enough to see well. I think I'll be doing one total shot for the coolness and one shot with closeup like I did for the 'The Sands of Time' entry. But it will be a difficult one!

I was thinking of it too. I think my main picture will have one group in the background just to keep the rest big enough, they'll have to get their attention elsewhere. Also, I plan to base my adventurers differently (to fit with other game systems) so I'll have to do something to hide the bases ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on June 24, 2009, 10:07:58 AM
Having been experimenting with layouts, the biggest issue with doing a full blowout Lost World mess for Round 10 is going to be getting it all in inside the 800x800 image size limit we've got! Five explorers, five Lost World denizens, one leviathan critter, scenery so it doesn't look boring... not quite sure how it's all going to work in 800x800...

Exactly. I don't have a clue how I'm going to fit 11 miniatures in a shot and make them big enough to see well. I think I'll be doing one total shot for the coolness and one shot with closeup like I did for the 'The Sands of Time' entry. But it will be a difficult one!

Well, everyone who is trying to get all elements into the last round have the same problem so it is not 'unfair'.

I was thinking of it too. I think my main picture will have one group in the background just to keep the rest big enough, they'll have to get their attention elsewhere. Also, I plan to base my adventurers differently (to fit with other game systems) so I'll have to do something to hide the bases ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 24, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
I suggest we can send in 2000 x 2000 images for round 10 for maximal enjoyment ;)

But yesterday went perfectly, almost like a Rocky movie where the situation seems desperate and suddenly he strikes back! I managed to finish all of my natives. I was surprised how fast they were done. Only beasty left!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 24, 2009, 11:05:41 AM
I suggest we can send in 2000 x 2000 images for round 10 for maximal enjoyment ;)

But yesterday went perfectly, almost like a Rocky movie where the situation seems desperate and suddenly he strikes back! I managed to finish all of my natives. I was surprised how fast they were done. Only beasty left!
One beastie left? Argh!
I have to admit I got sidetracked by a few - uh - props for scenery.  :(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 24, 2009, 11:47:12 AM
yeah, got the skin done on al the models, the rest is a bit more tricky though...   I'll just have to tell the girlfriend it's for honor that she won't see me that much this week  ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 25, 2009, 03:16:32 PM
Seven models done, five models near finished, I might make it after all :)

How are you guys coping?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: keeper on June 25, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
Two pygmies complete and three more almost done.  Five explorers and one dinosaur all half painted.  It is going to be tight! :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 25, 2009, 03:26:43 PM
Seven models done, five models near finished, I might make it after all :)

How are you guys coping?
No change since my last post, gulp :'(
I need to get my butt in gear tonight, tomorrow night and Saturday. I think this entry will be a last minute one. o_o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 25, 2009, 04:11:39 PM
Oi..  there will be a lot of pygmies this round  ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 25, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
Oi..  there will be a lot of pygmies this round  ;D
Not mine...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 25, 2009, 04:37:56 PM
Cavemen are ready to go, big beastie is ready, and the adventurers are mere moments from done!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Bugsda on June 25, 2009, 05:12:13 PM
Oi..  there will be a lot of pygmies this round  ;D

  :D I got natives with masks to save painting faces, never thought of pygmies ::) lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 25, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
Oi..  there will be a lot of pygmies this round  ;D

  :D I got natives with masks to save painting faces, never thought of pygmies ::) lol

Me too, me too :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Heldrak on June 25, 2009, 08:45:06 PM
It's going to be down to the absolute wire for me  >:(

Anybody know what time the deadline actually is in Michigan (USA)?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 25, 2009, 09:25:29 PM
I just figured out my Explorers, and I don't have to finish my Brits to do it either.  Yay!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on June 25, 2009, 09:35:02 PM
Anybody know what time the deadline actually is in Michigan (USA)?

Using the following site:

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc

And assuming that Richard's location is London and your location is Detroit, I THINK that 11:59 pm on Sunday in London translates to 6:59 pm on Sunday in Detroit.  Could that be true?  You might want to do your own conversion.

Wait, wait, wait; that's not correct, in part because I started with the wrong time.  I don't understand that 7 GMT thing though.  Oh well, maybe the website will be of use to you.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on June 25, 2009, 09:54:41 PM
As far as I can work out, 07.00 Greenwich Mean Time is 03.00 in Michigan.
In other words, you're 4 hours behind London, England.

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on June 25, 2009, 10:29:18 PM
Not that I'm to be trusted, but I think he's five hours behind.  7 am in London is 2 am in Detroit; according to that conversion site anyway:

"07:00:00 a.m. Sunday June 28, 2009 in Europe/London converts to 02:00:00 a.m. Sunday June 28, 2009 in America/Detroit"
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sterling Moose on June 25, 2009, 10:38:51 PM
Quote
but I think he's five hours behind

That's correct EST (Eastern Standard Time) is 5 hours behind the UK.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on June 25, 2009, 11:45:13 PM
Don't forget that, with Daylight Savings Time in effect, London's local time is NOT the same as GMT right now - GMT does not observe Daylight Savings.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/index24.php - note that London local is one hour in advance of GMT currently.

Michigan is in Eastern Daylight Time right now, so -5 GMT.
(same timezone as New York, Toronto, and the whole US Eastern seaboard.)

0700 GMT = 0200 EDT (2 AM)

Pacific Daylight Time (Seattle, San Francisco, LA, etc) is -7 GMT currently.

0700 GMT = 0000 PDT (Midnight)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Mancha on June 26, 2009, 04:42:48 AM
It's come to this....  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 26, 2009, 08:04:53 AM
Managed to finish just two figures out of the eleven last night.  :'(
This is taking too long.
Today I have to work so tonight I am going to be busy. "Sods law" after today I am on holiday for two weeks and would have had loads of time to paint. :-[
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 26, 2009, 09:07:22 AM
Progress!
5 adventurers completed.
1 big beastie completed
5 prehistory types still in progress
A small pile of accessories and junk and scene-setting items and supporting cast mostly done...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on June 26, 2009, 09:43:26 AM
No progress!  :(
Despite my load of free time I have hardly done any work on my primitives, let alone my adventurers. I will have to break with my tradition and send in piccies on saturday. I will have to finish my pygmees, and my planned adventurers will be replaced with models I have already painted but are still unseen. A bit lame but that way I might make it.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 26, 2009, 11:28:58 AM

 :( Am I the only one who won’t have an "explorer vs. natives" entry?  :'(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 26, 2009, 01:04:52 PM
Well, my non-natives will definitely be exploring...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 26, 2009, 01:09:56 PM

 :( Am I the only one who won’t have an "explorer vs. natives" entry?  :'(
wait till you see my 'explorers' - I'm betting I won't get the bonus for them  :D But I had this idea and want to try it out anyway.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 26, 2009, 05:00:23 PM

 :( Am I the only one who won’t have an "explorer vs. natives" entry?  :'(

Nope.   :?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 26, 2009, 07:26:27 PM
Three explorers done. On to the rest!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 26, 2009, 11:33:43 PM
Five explorers done. :D
Five natives with just the eyes and bases to do. :D
Beastie 3/4 done. :(
Thats enough for tonight, tomorrow is another day. The last :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 27, 2009, 12:41:15 AM
Figures are done, still trying to get a good picture.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 27, 2009, 08:38:22 AM
Explorers filled out with already photographed models. Had my hand caught in a car door, and once the sweeling goes down, I will be functional again, but for now, painting is not much of an option. I was almost done, too.

But I did finish the last of my cavemen, and my big beastie.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 27, 2009, 09:23:43 AM
Explorers filled out with already photographed models. Had my hand caught in a car door, and once the sweeling goes down, I will be functional again, but for now, painting is not much of an option. I was almost done, too.

But I did finish the last of my cavemen, and my big beastie.
Owww, hope you didn't bang the door hard Sinewgrab - I did that with a sliding door some weeks ago but this sounds worse.   :o
Ice and cold water should help.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 27, 2009, 11:02:52 AM
The painting is done and the picture has been send to the captain :)

Now I need a break  lol

I wish you a speedy recovery of your hand Sinewgrab. Always bad if something like that happens, but to time in in the last round is also a bit unfortunate.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 27, 2009, 02:06:55 PM
Hope its not too bad Sinewgrab. Bad timing?
5 explorers Finished :D
5 natives Finished :D
Big Beastie just to finish :)
Then on to photographs. :'(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vanvlak on June 27, 2009, 04:41:34 PM
Done......sort of. Anyway, the pic was sent.   :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 27, 2009, 05:14:08 PM
Finished painting  :D
Photo time :'(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 27, 2009, 05:21:30 PM
Explorers filled out with already photographed models. Had my hand caught in a car door, and once the sweeling goes down, I will be functional again, but for now, painting is not much of an option. I was almost done, too.

But I did finish the last of my cavemen, and my big beastie.
Owww, hope you didn't bang the door hard Sinewgrab - I did that with a sliding door some weeks ago but this sounds worse.   :o
Ice and cold water should help.



I am not the one who closed it. My godson did it. So, I'll forgive him, the 8 year old little *%$#@^&. It will take a while, but I'll forgive him.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Le matou rouge on June 27, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
So, I'll forgive him, the 8 year old little *%$#@^&. It will take a while, but I'll forgive him.

The lovely age  ;)

Pic sent too ! Awful as usual and very rushed job so just one explorer (but what a fig  ::) ) no pigmies (to short on time - sorry, I can't help myself) and a big beastie that is a pre-painted toy, so it doesn't count...
But you know what? I'm happy : I painted !

And Cheers to the good Captain : it's almost done !

meow,
Matt   
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Pil on June 27, 2009, 07:21:18 PM
Whew, sent in my entry too!

Beast: check!
Pygmees: finished today, check!
Explorers: they are 'never seen before' models which I painted before the league started. They're not what I intended but they work pretty well with the picture (better than my planned option: squats, anyway ;)).
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Raz on June 27, 2009, 07:43:50 PM

 :( Am I the only one who won’t have an "explorer vs. natives" entry?  :'(

Nope.   :?

Same here. The 'natives'  are finished, but there not much exploring going on in my entry :'(
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 27, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
Well thats it finished.
All painted 5 explorers, 5 natives and a beastie, all done, at last! :D
Photo sent, even though it is rubbish.  :'(  I'll need to learn better photography for next year.
Good luck everyone :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 27, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
Picture sent.  Fear not, ye bottom-of-the-rungers, there is nowhere to go but up!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Malebolgia on June 27, 2009, 11:22:50 PM
All done! It took a lot of time to complete, but the beast (and appendages...), natives and explorers are finished! That gives a total of 43 miniatures painted in 10 weeks time. And now I need some sleep :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Wirelizard on June 28, 2009, 01:54:22 AM
And... done! One beast, five explorers, five lost tribespersons. Scenery, even. And a photo I'm actually liking.

Looking forward to seeing everyone's final round entries!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Heldrak on June 28, 2009, 05:31:23 AM
Done!

Hallelujah!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on June 28, 2009, 08:18:20 AM
the 8 year old little *%$#@^&. It will take a while, but I'll forgive him.

Just spell it out man. You'll feel better afterwards. ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on June 28, 2009, 09:33:30 AM
Round 10 is in. 
5 Explorers, 5 Natives, 7 Beasties (ok, 5 are small, 1 is medium and one is large) ::)
The hardest part was squeezing it all into one picture with the 800x800 restriction  o_o
Methinks I will be posting some additional close-ups after the Round/Season is over...

I'm surprised I was able to keep up the pace and post in each of the 10 rounds, but it's been a weekly highlight to see all the great entries posted.
Both inspirational and motivating to see the talent level out there.

So regardless of outcome, I'd like to thank ALL for making my first season in the LPL most enjoyable and rewarding :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 28, 2009, 11:39:35 AM
Well...

Only got the natives and 1 explorer done for round 10...  :(

However, 67 mini's painted for the League.   :)

Mission Accomplished!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 28, 2009, 04:18:52 PM
Hear that! It were lots of painting, and no small amount of frustration taking pictures, but we have made it through another LPL! Yay, everyone!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Plynkes on June 28, 2009, 05:16:43 PM
Yep, 83 (I think) figures that I otherwise would never have painted in so short a time (or maybe even at all), plus I had a million miles of fun. Well worth it. Thanks everyone for a great time, and especially thanks to Blood for suffering through on our behalf all the headaches it has no doubt given him.

Now I'm bloody knackered, though, and never want to look at another flamin' figure again.  :)

Not really: Starting tomorrow, I think I'm gonna try and keep the LPL ethos going for another few weeks and "pretend" that I'm still in it, so I can take advantage of my current high degree of enthusiasm and productivity and get even more done. Can't last though, I'm bound to slip back into my normal state of sloth sooner or later.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Heldrak on June 28, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
Yep, 83 (I think) figures that I otherwise would never have painted in so short a time (or maybe even at all), plus I had a million miles of fun. Well worth it. Thanks everyone for a great time, and especially thanks to Blood for suffering through on our behalf all the headaches it has no doubt given him.

Now I'm bloody knackered, though, and never want to look at another flamin' figure again.  :)

Not really: Starting tomorrow, I think I'm gonna try and keep the LPL ethos going for another few weeks and "pretend" that I'm still in it, so I can take advantage of my current high degree of enthusiasm and productivity and get even more done. Can't last though, I'm bound to slip back into my normal state of sloth sooner or later.

That was my intention as well, to essentially keep producing entries (even without a contest) at the rather more leisurely pace of one team every 2 weeks. In the aftermath of the effort required to prodce an entry for round 10 however, I think I'm going to give myself some time off...!

I can't match the productivity of a lot of you- I think I managed 47 figures for the whole of the contest (I had to miss week 2 and week 8 and let the previous week's entry carry the day) but given my molasses-in-January painting speed it still feels like an achievement.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Hammers on June 28, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
Well, it has not been a good spring for me, so I have only managed to present about 25 miniatures this season. I guess I will burst out in bout of one-day-I'll-show-you-all some time this fall.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Vonkluge on June 28, 2009, 07:33:47 PM
I was sooooo! "Under the wire!" :o that I painted but did not get my explorers into the picture as I could not figure how to "theme" them in it.  :'( Ohh, well! I barely made it anyway my Dino was still wet!, no coating, from the paint table to the "set", click off some “bad” pictures, crop, resize, hit send!!!!!, PRAY! …lol..  Temperature is over 100 degrees F here now and painting becomes more difficult as it dries so quickly.... I agree with Plynkes, I will keep at it for a couple of weeks more! I have been painting the "Old Glory" set of Foreign Legations (25-28mm buildings) quite a large project, terrain for 15mm samurai battles, terrain for 20mm Vietnam, and rebaseing two armies while the LPL was going on. Add to that a Wife, 2 kids, dog, bird, snake, job, a 25 foot by 25 foot garden to water, weed, fertilize, and the fact that I have to stop to eat a least twice a day has kept me a busy boy!  ;D I am quite happy with all the stuff finished and the large dent in the lead pile plus the fact I was really too bust to buy but a few “new” minis during the LPL!  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Braxandur on June 28, 2009, 07:44:36 PM
103 miniatures in total... I doubt I could have kept that pace much longer. I still have to finish a tyranid army, two  WAB armies (roman and barbarian/celt) and a bucketload of zombies to reach the goals I did set for myself this year. I was doubting at a certain time, but the LPL made me believe again its still possible.

But most important, thanks to all of you for the great pictures every round!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Calimero on June 28, 2009, 07:59:38 PM
92 Minis in the LPL… 10 were 20mm all others 28… 12 of them were mounted figures (still only count for 1 figure  ;D )… plus some others in between that go directly to the Bazaar… not too bad.

I’ve been beaten in a lot of rounds as the standard of the painting was very, very good. I’m just glad I had participated.  8)

So when do we start season 4?  ;) lol

Cheers all!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: gamer Mac on June 28, 2009, 08:41:02 PM
So when do we start season 4?  ;) lol

Now lol

For the LPL I managed 60 figures, 1 boat, 1 car, 5 balloons and a Metal suit. I have really enjoyed it but it has been hard going and I am worn out. I don't think I will be painting anything soon. May build some scenery instead. :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 28, 2009, 09:44:08 PM
While I didn't have an entry for every round, I did paint 131 figures during the LPL period.  They just weren't in batches of 5 nor thematically related.  It's that last part that was the hardest for me.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Moriarty on June 29, 2009, 08:05:47 AM
131 figures is impressive - though Vanvlak takes the crown for figures painted, by sneaking in those 2mm cavalry!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: rapscallion on June 29, 2009, 10:35:19 AM
Wow, so impressed with the turn out this year- the painting got better and better and the amount of time people spent on the last round is fully evident. Can't wait for the next season! Rapscallion.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: tsar1701 on June 29, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
on the french blogosphère we have a painting unit: the marius (desgin by Walktapus)

one 15mm infantryman = 1 marius
one 15mm cavalryman = 2 marius
one 28mm infantryman = 3 marius
one 28mm cavalryman = 6 marius
...

for the League I totalize 207 marius  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Alxbates on July 05, 2009, 11:11:15 PM
And my offer of a free set of my Forge of Ice Peacocks to one random participant still stands.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Alxbates/Forge%20of%20Ice%20Catalog/AllThreePeafowl.jpg)

Will the Professor or Captain Blood care to draw a name out of a hat or roll the dice to determine the recipient?

-Alex
-Forge of Ice

Title: Re: The Lead Painters' League - Season Three
Post by: Captain Blood on July 05, 2009, 11:15:01 PM
We will do. Just need to sort out the final results, and then we'll do the draw in the next day or two. Thanks Alex.

 :)