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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Digits on March 07, 2017, 11:51:04 PM
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A few years ago I modelled a few 20mm Vietnam figures and played around a bit. My modelling skills were not that great and I soon got rid of them.
However, in yet another of my many brash moments of madness, I find myself this last few days yearning to cover the conflict once again.
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I'm totally dinky dau!
Why? Well simply this, I am currently enjoying a holiday around the South China Sea, the last few days in Vietnam and have been visiting among other places, Saigon in the South ( one seriously mad city with what has to be the CRAZIEST streets I've ever witnessed!)! Da Nang / My Son (loved this place) in the centre of the country and Halong Bay in the Gulf of Tonkin(North) near Hanoi. I have loved chatting with and listening to our tour guides who have given us a different side to the story and I've loved seeing places I've only ever heard of in war movies. There is still evidence if you look for it of the conflict. Many of the buildings of the US airbase by China Beach in Da Nang are still there, I've seen the Rex hotel in Saigon, a place the press frequented and bomb craters around the ancient ruins at My Son and photographed the very tanks that rolled into the palace grounds as the South surrendered.
The countryside in the middle of the country is beautiful but I can well imagine how unforgiving it could be to fight over....
Anyway, whilst I've been sat in my stateroom trawling through various wargames supplier sites and figure manufacturers. I have settled on 28mm and have ordered just a couple of dozen figures from TAG to start me off.
Oh, and two hooches, a fishing boat, a pair of Revell 1:48 Hueys, two Eureka civilians, two standing ox, a generic "boy", rooster & chickens, green peacocks and egrets (lots of them over here) and an ox and cart!
I have also picked up a couple of cheap ornaments here to distress and convert into scenery and I want to concentrate on making realistic jungle scenery, rice paddies and boobie traps!
Ultimately I just want this to be a bit of fun, playing simple skirmishes with no more than about 20 - 30 figures. I haven't chosen a rule set, but whatever I choose I would probably want to bastardise them. Will be concentrating on regular grunts and VC. No NVA at this point.
More soon....
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Well the end of my holiday here is upon me and I will be making my way back to Blighty where I can make a start on this. I'm pumped up and have already ordered lots of bits to start the jungle pieces. I've ordered palms, banana plants, different tufts and grasses, a few jungle looking plants and a particularly pleasing find, scale bamboo! This stuff looks awesome but will need painting I think as I need it to look less fish tank and more ..... well realistic.
I know the three packs I've ordered have been despatched already so I will be making those my first priority.
Pictures in a few days.
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Good luck - I love the smell of a new project, it's like the new car smell, only better.
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Check out Easy Model for pre-painted helicopters too. Force of Arms are great if you can find any. Parkfield is worth a look too.
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Good luck - I love the smell of a new project, it's like the new car smell, only better.
It soon turns into the primer and paint smell, and sometimes the resin smell....
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Whoahh, what a coincidence.
I came back last Monday from a 3 week southeast asia trip.
Singapore, Vietnam, Thailnad and Brunei.
Saigon had the same effect on me.
That was the reason for my posting:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=98305.msg1219187#msg1219187
I ordered too some TAG, they have not arrived yet.
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Yup definitely a very evocative place! I look forward to watching your take on it too.
I had seen your thread and pretty much come to the same conclusion as everyone else re TAG. My biggest disappointment is the lack of female civilians....astonishing seeing as most farmers I see working in the paddies are women! Perhaps some kindly soul will sculpt a few for us?
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Whoahh, what a coincidence.
I came back last Monday from a 3 week southeast asia trip.
Singapore, Vietnam, Thailnad and Brunei.
Saigon had the same effect on me.
That was the reason for my posting:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=98305.msg1219187#msg1219187
I ordered too some TAG, they have not arrived yet.
I also ordered something from tag, still wait. They are very slow. Disappointing slow
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Ok we are off to the races. Starting on the first two boards. I want to keep them reasonably flat, to allow for adding vegetation sections. Front edge will be river front.
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I've a similar project that am presently working on so following with a great deal of interest. 8)
Will the cutouts be paddy fields?
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Yes sir. I intend these two boards to be agricultural whereas the next two will be more jungle looking.
The bund wall would typically be more narrow between the paddys but I want figure bases to be able to stand on them.
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The bund wall would typically be more narrow between the paddys but I want figure bases to be able to stand on them.
Absolutely the right decision :)
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Ok so a thread title change as I've decided on a name for my village, Hu'o'ng Bò which I hope means " Fragrant Ox". Appeals to my warped sense of humour anyway!
I just ordered myself an etched brass banyan tree which if it's any good will form the centre of the hamlet, providing much needed shade for the villagers.
Nice surprise was the inclusion of a woman with carried child in the ox and cart set from Eureka!
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Nice
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Woah, wait a minute Mr Postman!
Lots of parcels turned up at once, some from China, others not, but as you can see, I'm going for a palm forrest and bamboo thickets. Three hundred bamboo and a few more coming! Over 70 palms (three different types) The palms will get re painted for sure but I'm not sure about the bamboo. If I start painting it's a lot of work. If I just dry brush the leaves, it may work, I will have to wait and see.
The three larger packs of light green tufts will be for my paddy fields, though I may also do one with taller (ripe) yellow tufts if I find ones I like.
Some various grasses, ground foliage, leaf litter and water effect. Enough to start on the jungle pieces I think! This lot will take me quite a while I should imagine....
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I already had a set of Pegasus Banana plants which I'm in the process of giving a quick paint job to. Also shown here...lots of cheap service place mats and coasters from Sainsbury's! These mats are ideal for terrain making, they will be the jungle piece bases...cork backed, don't warp and this lot only cost me £9!
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And he's off!
It'll be good to watch this progress.
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Looking forward to seeing this all nicely done. :)
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Do remember to test the water effect on a separate terrain piece - I've had mixed succes with various products, and a clear epoxy might be a better way to go - just paint the bottom brownish/green detail with tufts and ad the layer of epoxy.
I really wish for you not to ruin a great project with shoddy water effect.
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You know something about this product then? What epoxy would you recommend?
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Where are all these foliage products coming from? This is exactly what i've been looking for......
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Can all be found on e-bay. Mostly from a supplier called "serious play"
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Can all be found on e-bay. Mostly from a supplier called "serious play"
I think I got mine from ethersell, a Chinese supplier.
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Yup, that's where I got the bamboo.
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I've tried a few water effect products - last was from GW - if you lay it on too thick, you might catch bubbles or risk the solution to become 'milky' off course your brand may wary, so test on a separate piece.
Personally, I'd recommend a two-part clear epoxy - depending on your location - your local paint store can help.
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I probably will give that a go. I've had problems with cracking and milkyness before with other products.
Resin may be better thinking about it because I'm thinking of standing a few egrets, a farmer and an ox in the fields.
I will also have a pond near the huts. Chatting with villagers on one of our excursions, they keep it for fish to supplement their diet, but also because it wards off demons. Apparently demons fly over and see their own reflection in it and it scares them off ! I want to have a few lotus flowers in mine.
Talking of warding off....apparently a lot of Vietnamese grow lemon grass around their houses to keep cobras away....the snakes don't like it as its sharp and cuts their skin. At least this is what I was told.
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Lots of stuff!! Looking forward to seeing all come together.
Are the placemats easy to cut, or do you need a jigsaw?
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A saw makes it easier for sure. I just marked mine up to take to a mate with a saw in fact.
You can do it with a Stanley knife. Just takes more time.
I use them under 40k buildings and scenery all the time. They are superb.
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A nice accumulation! 8) I've got similar palms and bamboo, though from a different eBayer. I've based them up but am stuck on painting them: I can't decide on the best approach so am intrigued by what you'll do. :)
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I also have the bamboo etc, was thinking maybe a wash is gonna be the easiest?
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I'm going to play around with the bamboo to see what I prefer. I will report back later.
First up though is to paint the palm trees.
I have bought the three following types.
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Frm left to right
1) bought 20. All the same height at 120mm, easy to fix with palm trees, just lop an inch or two off the trunks of a third of them. Not much definition on the trunks with each being vertical , the tops being quite square, and a little flashing that needs trimming off. I will cut the lugs off the base and replace with small steel pins (on all three types). May add a little light lichen around the top of the trunk to hide the lack of definition, and add interest in the form of date sprigs.
2) bought 36. Four differing heights 55mm - 140mm. The smallest may not be overly useful but these have lovely trunk definition with a little flash to remove. The flash on soft plastic is hard to remove properly, so I'm not going to be anal about it, just remove the big obvious bits, no one will be looking too intently ::) These trunks have a little shaping / bending in them. May add a little lichen again.
3) bought 12. Four differing heights 40mm - 100mm. Lovely definition, little flash. May have to buy another pack.
I have a couple of Pegasus palms which are lovely and tall, but they are expensive to buy lots and are brittle so don't take storage very well, unlike these soft plastic trees.
I will be painting them all before I start basing. I will simply use army painter goblin green primer / paint to get them going. Then vary the colours a little between the species.
I will tackle and trim the flash on tree 1 first.
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Useful thanks. I have slightly different palms (a bit shorter).
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No worries, I find spelling out the steps a useful reminder for myself for later on! Lol
I just sprayed the first ten. I'm going out to find a darker spray for the leaf tops to make things a bit quicker for myself.
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Intermediate picture, spray the whole thing army painter goblin green, then from above, the foliage angel green. Now for some dry brushing before I do the trunks.
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Does the paint appear to be adhering to the plastic ok?
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Yup, the army painter stuff is a primer too. It will hold well enough for this.
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Cool, it definitely looks better with the paint on. I've got a 'few' of these for my own Vietnam project so I'll be watching your progress and obviously pinching your ideas!
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Feel free, that's what this is all about isn't it?
Another wip shot.
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Glued upright so I can wash the trunks before highlighting them. Foliage is ok like this. Nothing extravagant, just three colours.
What I am worried about is this is all twenty trees of this type. Doesn't look a lot glued onto this place mat....how is it going to become a forest?! I think I may end up buying more trees at this rate!
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they look great.
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Looks great, and don't overdo the tree amount.
It still has to be a playable surface!
;)
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They look rather good. I think you're right to limit the palette like that, it's more effective at distance. That's the difficulty with creating jungle, it's that balance between creating the right look and gameable space.
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They look great
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Ok so let's start the first piece of standing bamboo scenery. I start with a piece of cork backed place mat cut to irregular shape. I've sprayed the top to make seeing holes easier but it will also help once I sand it. I have drilled holes in clumps. This way I still have gaps and holes to stand figures in, and from side on the whole copse will look solid. I also save on bamboo. This whole base will use nearly two hundred pieces so order plenty!
Start supergluing in the bamboo, cutting a few pieces shorter for variety.
This bit is slow going. Going to be a day or two before the next step!
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Looks awesome already though. Can already imagine a bamboo fight in the upper levels with a Zhang Ziyi.
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very good looking vegetation
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I have exactly the same bamboo from China to use at some point. I like the closely clumped look. Will use that when I do my own.
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Having looked closely at the stuff on my visits, I'm fairly certain it grows like that anyway.
So, I've finally put the stalks into that one board! I think I will do a second though now before the next stage so I can finish two off at least whilst I have the will power!
Just a little tip, notice the deliberate cutting to be able to place the two pieces in such a fashion as to have effective looking paths when placed on the board. This is useful when making larger area vegetation pieces as opposed small clump pieces.
Anyway....more planting.....
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Very nice. I was planning on doing the exact same thing. I always use cork backed coasters and I have the same bamboo that you purchased. It is nice to have such good looking work as an example. Oh, and yeah bamboo grows the same way here on Guam. You nailed it! :-*
LB
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That scenery is coming together nicely! :)
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Everything is looking great- enjoying the progress! Keep it up!
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Really enjoying your project.
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Great project !
Just got back from Vietnam myself and I can testify that it is a very beautiful country.
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Great project !
Just got back from Vietnam myself and I can testify that it is a very beautiful country.
My brother in law said the same thing - he said it seemed a shame to bomb the shit out of it....
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Dragging this one back up. I hung this one up for a number if reasons but partly as I decided to wait for Empress to release their Nam stuff. That and having to put everything in storage as I prepared to move house.
Anyway, my first order went in last week and a few marines are threading my way. I wasn’t as struck on the TAG figures I received but I will see if they can match in.
A departure from my original direction, as the figures arriving are Marines, the Hueys are not that important but a die cast 1:55 CH-46 arrived in the post yesterday. That will need repainting.
The Sea Knight holds 17 guys, so a pair of them for my platoon and 34 marines is a good limit for the size of game I foresee.
Anyway, the first order of business is to get these bamboo forests finished. I will be taking a good look at them in the next few days......
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HUZZAH back behind the plough lol I accept all responsibility.
Made my jungle about three years ago in expectation so only painting toys now. However Jungle is great fun to do and great therapy. It also keeps Chinese plastic aquarium plant farmers employed ;)
We need to sort a game sometime now you have moved further south. ;)
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Indeed that would be great Paul. Let me get some stuff painted and we can set something up next year perhaps.
Also thank you to Ash, he’s given me some painting advice for my Marines. Vallejo paints ordered (all mine are GW) and renedra 20mm round bases.
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And what great timing....arrived home to find postman has delivered both the Vallejo paints I ordered just Tuesday evening and my first Empress Marines.
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First impressions are pretty damned fine figures (perhaps too fine, my prone guy is missing a muzzle but I may be able to drill in a bit of wire). Detailing is superb and nice rifle slings. Very little flashing to deal with. I bought the radio operator sets, which come with lead whip aerials which are very fine. I will replace mine with a little florist wire I suspect, better for my sausage fingers 😒
Looking forward to painting up a test mini. I will need one early doors to contrast and show off my bamboo which is really the first job to tackle.
Also in the pic, the Newray 1:55 scale CH-46. Pretty good model, perfect scale. The “die cast” model is actually mostly a hard plastic. (Edit: NO IT ISN’T !) This may be useful as I’m debating cutting out the door window and the observation “bubble” hatch as this is the gunners position in most pics I’ve seen. If I find a suitable gunner small enough to pop in the open hatch, it will get done. The rear ramp also comes down. Adding in a little floor plate detailing and a ramp gunner is also on the cards. Repainting it obviously as needs to be green. I need to look out for decals to replace those I will end up covering up. As I mention above, a second of these will be my platoons transport sorted.
A few reference pics
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E mail us about the damaged figure and we will send a replacement ;)
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Aww cheers fella...great customer service!
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Great line up for the kick off..!
Interested to see how the bamboo turns out, I have a load of that languishing in a box of assorted eBay purchases from the land of plastic....
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Well here is the next stage. Loosing the will to live glueing in each piece! For now I will work with these four pieces. I can do more later on.
To be honest, this bamboo I got is a bit pants. Most of the wires are not well coated in plastic, so you have to chop off a fair inch or so on most foods.....but, it does then give you a little variety in the heights....
I’ve added in a nice little aquarium ornament I found at a pet shop. Tbh...you will all be shopping in one for your plastic jungle foliage so keep your eyes open. A hidden piece in the thicket makes it more interesting to look at.
I am NOT painting each piece as I’ve seen some done, life’s too short so I want a reasonable effect once finished. First thing I have done is spray army painter dessert yellow on the lower stems. In my head....the older wood with lower level browned leaves as the stuff grows and cuts off the light. Now I need to wash the stem with dirt brown sand them all.....😩
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The wash, simply makes them a bit less uniform. I don’t intend to paint the top of the canopy, it will look fine once it’s been left to “bleach” on my window ledge for a few months! Sand next....
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Whilst I’m at it, I thought I’d do a test stand of the plastic palms. They look fine to me though I may place more scrub on a few bases as I do them.
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Bamboo is looking good.
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Cheers fella. I’m sat watching millionaire whilst sanding the first three bases......not so easy , I perhaps should have watered down the pva first to get it to run between the stalks.
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There you go, my first finished piece. The leaf litter really helps I think and I’m sure is more realistic....stops it being boring around the base. Otherwise the temptation would have been lots of undergrowth....maybe ott and I want to be able to place figures.
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I just ordered some monkeys and a tiger from Gringo.....should look very atmospheric.....
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really nice work.
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Hi Digits
Looking good mate!
Ian
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ery nice.
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Cheers guys, glad you approve.
I should get the other three pieces finished tonight.
I have been thinking how to make a bamboo covered hill piece too. I think it will need “stepped” pieces of cut place mat upon a stepped hard polystyrene base hill, pre drilled and “planted” before glueing each into place, the overall piece with rocky outcrops and a discernible track through it. Ambitious but doable I think. One for the future anyway.
I still have three / four bags of bamboo so another pair of bases to be built I think.
I was I i initially thinking of a crafted table with built in river and paddy fields you saw at the outset of the thread..,.,but space these days is a premium so I am going to be making separate piece paddy fields etc to be placed on a gaming mat. I have a few ideas how to make the paddy fields look good without standing tall. Likewise I will have to make a river too....far to much to be done yet....
Meanwhile, I also just want to paint a few minis. At least now I will have a backdrop for their pictures!
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Really chuffed with these. All four finished. Now for a mini or two.l.
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Your bamboo project looks great - well done :-*
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The bamboo thickets are excellent. I must buy some of those. My challenge is trying to work out what to use for a rubber plantation.
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Oh and a handy site if you fancy extending your botanical range.
http://vietnamcoracle.com/plants-flowers-trees-of-vietnam/
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The bamboo thickets are excellent. I must buy some of those. My challenge is trying to work out what to use for a rubber plantation.
I used to drive through rubber plantations in Cameroon, West Africa.
Tallish straight trunks, not too heavy a canopy, trunk whiteish in colour (think silver birch) spiral cuts in the bark at waist height and cups (often coconut halves) to catch white sap.
Thanks for the comments guys.
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The bamboo thickets look great! What did you use for the leaf litter?
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Indeed. Digits. Wellcome to Da Nam! Personally i think that those miniatures from TAG are the best (and yes i did buy many of their stuff form the up country range) although there has been a recent influx of new ones from several companies.
As far as terrain is concerned i chose to go modular. It makes the terrain look less real (but it is not real it's in scale so why bother with 'real') but you have so much more flexibility in making different terrain on the same gametable.
Good luck and remember .... the most important thing is to enjoy & have fun. ;-)
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The bamboo thickets look great! What did you use for the leaf litter?
They are actually little silver birch seeds I think. But they are sold as “leaf Litter” if you check on eBay for example. Failing that you can try anything from dried oregano to gunpowder tea.
Cheers Legion, I think I agree re modular. And “having fun” is my mantra!
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Autumn, so find some Silver Birch trees & beneath them lots of leaf litter.
I collected a few small bags full last year. You have to dry it out (how long
depends on how wet it was when you collected it) & sift out the other bits,
but it is FREE!!!! The idea was not mine, but another LAFer.
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Here in Oz, we have very little Silver Birch so I use Mixed Herbs which comes in a nice size container at the local supermarket and maintains the odour for a long time which emits a lovely smell every time I open the storage piece.
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There’s a fucking silver birch outside my balcony, which distributes its largesse across my painting table >:(. So if you ever want any, I’ll fire up the dust buster. I believe a copper nail is the traditional remedy.
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lol, the joys of inner city Melbourne.
Ta, happy with my Mixed Herbs.
There’s a fucking silver birch outside my balcony, which distributes its largesse across my painting table >:(. So if you ever want any, I’ll fire up the dust buster. I believe a copper nail is the traditional remedy.
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Enemy troops are not the only danger lurking in the forests of Vietnam.
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Sadly very much declined, almost extinct in Vietnam now.
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Looks really good..
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Cheers Sparrow.
Tiger is from Gringo....as are these monkeys.
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I bought some parrots too. I will need to look up Asian parrots before putting paint to them. As I mentioned early in the thread, I also have buffalo, egrets and peacocks. I also think I have a few snakes kicking around somewhere. All will get painted in time but they are great at adding little details to pieces that add to the atmosphere when gaming. Hopefully, when I do my paddy fields, you will really see what I mean.
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Tigers great, iirc 5 Americans are listed as being killed by a Tiger in Vietnam
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Nice.
The leaf litter is a nice touch.
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So this arrived in the post yesterday. Not as detailed as the Forces of valour model and unfortunately the door is welded shut, but at only £15 it was rude not to. I will distress it a little in time.
Easy Model 39317 - 1/48 UH-1C Huey Helicopter
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I’m particularly chuffed too as I hadn’t realised that you can get larger place mates at 30 x 40cm. Now I know that, all sorts of things spring to mind, including proper paddy fields and good sized river sections and maybe even a larger temple / bamboo thicket piece.
I do suppose at some point I need to paint a few minis however...
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looking good Digits... :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
www.gringo40s.blogspot.com
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Like the puddie tat. Is that Tiddles mum. 😆. Copter fits as well.👍
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Cheers Brian. As for Tiddles...I think I’d rather go up against Panthera Tigris ! 😉
Fed, thanks bud. You tiger was a dream to paint!
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A post in another thread reminds me I once had a few Nam inspired minis in my Army of Darkness project.
Defoe - Platoon, Papillon Soo (Full Metal Jacket - portrayed here as "Me so bony"), and Christopher Walkden - Deerhunter
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So a couple of questions.
I have a copy of Force on Force and ambush alley. Does anyone play it and what are their thoughts? Are the better systems out there and why for example?
Secondly, I’ve never really mastered painting / varnishing rivers and pools.
I really want to me able to represent a muddy river.....what is the secret please?
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Check some of these out...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF_ztus-S3AX-JzQz0AIX-A/videos
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Check some of these out...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF_ztus-S3AX-JzQz0AIX-A/videos
Nice link ;)
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Hi Digits - have tried FonF and quite enjoyed it (very different!). Am also flirting with Charlie Don’t Surf and Bodycount (how retro am I!!). There is also an unofficial Chain of Command variant that looks really interesting!
Now you’ve moved down our way we’ll have to sort out getting together for a game sometime.
Cheers
Ian
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Charlie Don't surf and FNG have some great ideas. FNG I think can be downloaded for free Google it.
Body count has some great ideas although really needs a separate umpire to control the table.
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FNG! How could I forget - Digits - add FNG to my list lol
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Thanks for the link Ash, I will need to put aside a few hours to watch those! 😉
Ian thanks and I look forward to a game.
Paul cheers.
I will download FNG when I find it and take a look.
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Ok so my large place mats arrived. I suppose it’s time to start on some rice paddy’s.
As I’m making these as scarlet terrain now instead of building them into my base boards, I have to think a little differently.
Most I’ve seen made are built up on mdf. They can look great....but to me, raised water doesn’t feel right. I think they rely on river flooding etc for irrigation, so the water level would be not much different to that. As you may see, my plan is to cut out the centre areas leaving only the raised mud walkways. These may seem a little over wide but I want to be able to place figures on them. The “wet” areas will be made when I get hold of some cheap thin plastic sheet that will glue under the cork mat. In this manner I can have “sunken” water feature that at worst will be level with main playing table.
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As I intend to stand a few buffalo, civilians and wading birds in them, I need to add a little protective height in the form of another small bamboo thicket to the edge of one pool. As well as protecting the board when stored, I can also place a few birds in the “tree line”
Using these larger boards means I don’t have to make lots of individual paddy’s, with double wide walkways every time they butt up to each other. I intend in time to make my village pieces in the same manner. That way I can add detail around the houses and maybe small crop areas and a carp pool.
I need to get hold of a jigsaw for the next bit....
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So a couple of questions.
I have a copy of Force on Force and ambush alley. Does anyone play it and what are their thoughts? Are the better systems out there and why for example?
FoF is definitely enjoyable. Since I recall you wanted to play small engagements of about 20-30 figures per side you might want to consider Spectre Operations. It is a bit more granular than FoF, written with modern times in mind but very flexible and eminently suitable for Vietnam. I reviewed it here https://pijlieblog.blogspot.com/2019/04/spectre-operations-review-of-2nd-edition.html (https://pijlieblog.blogspot.com/2019/04/spectre-operations-review-of-2nd-edition.html)
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Cheers fella, good write up.
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Paddy fields are cut out.
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And the first village house plot. Out of focus. This will have a carp pool with reeds and water Lily’s, a veg plot and a few banana trees. I need to build the legs to go under the house, and I may do a little side structure / kitchen area you often see in the likes of Rambo 2.
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Can't wait to see how this technique works out.
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The good old trusted place mat. The base for a many great Wild West building. Looking forward to the spectacular result as normal.
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nice technique!
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Cheers though a way to go yet....waiting on plasticard.
So, about time but I’ve painted my first three grunts. These Empress minis are really rather nice to paint. My thanks to Ash after I picked his brains on colours, though I have veered a little. With a mixed bag of Vallejo, Games Workshop paints and washes, I’m happy enough with these...though a daylight picture may be better.
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Looking good mate ;)
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'Charlie is out there man! I can feel him looking at me.'
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Looking good :-*
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very nice indeed
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Thanks you lot.
So I may base another dozen minis whilst I’m waiting to move on the paddy fields. That or I may just get back to the Napoleonics....🤪
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Buy more Nam. I have to eat lol
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Ha! :D
Don’t fret Paul...all in good time.
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Very nice work :-* :-* :-*
The Bamboo is outstanding
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Very nice.
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Thank you guys.
Ok wedding this last weekend do no progress updates but I do have musings!
Someone on another thread mentioned rubber plantations and having watched a documentary on Long Tan, this got me thinking.
So, I have a few hundred meters of florist wire, and I have NEVER modelled my own trees before, but I reckon I will have a go at a small plantation that I’m hoping will look like this.
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Should be fun. Whilst I’m at it, I also want to build a few taller jungle trees complete with climbers and lianas. I have already been asked if I will do an aircraft strung up crashed in the trees ( thanks James!!!)......and on reflection, I’ve decided to give that a go too! o_o
Yup, totally dinky dau! I feel this is turning into a modelling exercise in jungles than a simple Nam project and will end up looking like the set of “Lost” but it gives me something to aim at.
Unless anyone has a small broken suitable aircraft for the period in 1:48, I will probably buy a loach to suspend. ....
Meanwhile, let’s learn how to make our own wire trees. I have lots of reference videos etc and have ordered my woodland scenic latex for covering the wires. I will include a step by step as I make them.
The rubber trees in the picture are reportedly from a Vietnamese plantation. They look quite straight and this without too wide a canopy. The roots at the base of the foreground tree on the left, are perfect for wire tree making I think.
Watch this space
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You need a polar bear if doing lost.
Are you doing plane or whirlybird crashed in trees. Comeback of the skeletons. Pilot in cockpit.
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funny but not even sure I have any left in my bits box!
I will probably do a small “loach” helicopter. If I did a larger plane, the trees would have to be massive.
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Ok first steps making these trees. Bear with me, I’ve not done these before but having a go
First off, I bought some 14” florist wires. Using 15 / 17 stands, fold it in the middle and twist it about 2 inches leaving a loop at the bottom to be used for the roots. Try to keep your twists as tight as possible. If you twist too much, it will kink...
Then basically start twisting lesser amounts of wire as you go up the tree to create branches.
As you get towards the end, you can twist some single wire strands back to form small loops, which you then cut to make two smaller branches.
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Here was my first. I learned to try and pick selective wires for future trees as it makes it stronger at the branch junctions. In this ones case, once I paint on the rubber, it will protect it from unravelling.
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The 14” wire ends up with a tree approx 5” high before foliage. I intend to make about a dozen of these.
Now, for the crash scene, I need a much larger tree. Here is work in progress. For this one, I had some garden wire, much thicker and harder to work but it will be strong. I cut 19 strands of about 30” for this one which will stand about a foot tall. I will make another slightly shorter to accompany it, but it’s big and will dominate the jungle!
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Looking good, interested to see how these turn out.
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Nice work on the trees.
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Thanks for the encouragement chaps.
Well the large bugger is shaped and ready for the first covering.
I have drilled little holes into the base and twisted wire through to hold the roots down and give some stability. It will help whilst I fiddle about with the base and the roots and add strength later on. I have decided that as trees like this are so big (see Joker at its base), I will mount them on their own base and spread them about rather than do two on the same base. I may get sick of making them (my fingers hurt now!) but they will look imposing in the “jungle” I hope.
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So first layer of liquid latex mould making stuff. I’m using Woodland Scenic and I will be doing the big guy and one small. Making the wire armatures is not a quick process, so I will sit and knock those out whilst I’m watching telly over the next week or two.
The stuff just paints on, and I am making great pains to hide the twisted wire, especially on the larger tree.
It will need at least two layers, maybe three. The side of the jar says each layer will dry in about thirty minutes, I’m not so sure...
The added benefit of using this, is that with the wire at its core, you still have the ability to repose branches once it’s finished.
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Neat.
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Outstanding work for a first try! :o
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Very nice work for a first attempt :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Long way to go yet guys but thanks.
So I ended up waiting all night for it to dry, and I’ve just put a second layer on. If I wanted to wrap it and hide the twist of wire completely, I could put a piece of gauze between layers I think, but I’m not too worried about a little twist in the trunk. I’ve seen trees in west Africa with a bit of twist in and take a look at gum tree trunks for example. As for the upper branches, well they will eventually end up in the foliage.
The smaller one takes the latex well and the thinner wires are not so difficult to mask.
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Nice to see you branching out. Excellent work. Are you taking orders for
Teutoburger forest yet?
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Surely you need mostly pines for that? And the answer is a firm NO. These are not quick turnaround. I have always bought my trees over the years, and they have been pretty nice, but there is something pleasing about doing my own. Everyone should buy a little pack of florist wire and have a go.....
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Nice to see you branching out.
I seed what you did there.
Tree looking very promising.
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Ta. Yup so two coats of latex was sufficient and I’ve just sprayed them ahead of painting.
I actually need to sort the base and sand it first.
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I’ve also decided on my aircraft, in the end I decided against a helicopter (as there will be a few on the battlefield in time anyway) and most jets would be almost as long as the tree high. I’ve ordered an A-37 Dragonfly.
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I’ve also decided on my aircraft, in the end I decided against a helicopter (as there will be a few on the battlefield in time anyway) and most jets would be almost as long as the tree high. I’ve ordered an A-37 Dragonfly.
Good choice, I can see it in my mind's eye, can't wait to see your rendition of it!
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Yup....not painted a model aircraft since I was a kid mind! Saying that, it’s going to be so battered I doubt the paintwork will be the issue!
Trying out a few ideas for climbers and lianas. I think a light wool soaked in a mix of pva and grey/brown paint, with the odd dab of green foliage is going to work the best. I also bought a Christmas bauble from a local garden centre because it was covered in fake moss strands that may trade off and be useful....
I’m going to paint the tree next and add foliage.....the trickiest bit to get right I think.
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The basic tree trunk is done. Quite happy with the colouring.
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Next up, foliage.
I was trawling the net for a few inspirational....this first being my favourite.
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First stretch on a little polyfibre
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Then simply add the clump foliage using a fixative spray
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Lianas, and low level jungle shrub will finish it eventually, a maybe a painted parrot! Need to wait for the plane now....
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Bloody hell that's nice.
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Nice! Are you going to give it a latex dip to add robustness?
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It not quite sure what you mean fella?
The trunk is fairly robust as is or do you mean something else?
I sat last night and made another armature for one of these bigger trees, slightly shorter than this one. They are fairly time consuming but I think a few scattered about standing tall of the surrounding bamboo and forest scrub.
The aircraft could take a bit of time so I’m going to practice the climbers on this one I think. Job for tonight.
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There was a link on here a few weeks ago showing a tutorial on making trees where the chap attached sea foam branches to armatures and then flocked them with clump foliage much as you have. The surprising thing was he then dipped the trees in clear latex, which essentially damage proofed them.
I’ll have a dig around for the thread.
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Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ryYEMomK8
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Cheers for the link, I will take a butcher’s at it.
Meanwhile, I suppose I ought to start on the paddy fields. Unfortunately I think I’m loosing the battle with plastic and stuck to cork! Anyway, I shall carry on regardless.....
First sand.
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I note that Charlie Foxtrot now do Paddy fields, and his stuff is very good.
Worth a look.
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Ahhh....where’s the fun in that?
Actually I can see the benefit to those wanting a quick fix......but really, anyone can make their own scenery....just add a little imagination.
Having just taken a look, I don’t quite get why they have made them “wavy”?
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I believe they made them 'wavy' so that they could be put along side each other,
but have fewer straight edges on the table.
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I’m all for knocking off the straight edges...they just look a tad odd. I like that they are thin though, that does add more realism to be fair.
Ok, here is my dilemma.
I bought these tufts (3 packs) for nice vivid ripe rice fields. If I stick them down in the field, will the Vallejo water texture run into them enough so they don’t look like they are standing in....
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That is a dilemma :o I suggest only way to go is do a tiny practice field with a couple of tufts on a MDF base (like a 40 x 40 or something) with the water effect and see what it looks like
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Oops....too late maybe!
I usually have the courage of my convictions......I’ve already put the rice in the field.
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If it doesn’t work.....I will just have to do over again.
Anyway, just painting up a buffalo and a pair of egrets then I will apply the first pour of water.....it MIGHT work yet....
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Good luck!
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Well.....so far so good I think. I needn’t have fretted, it soaked it up quite nicely. My biggest regret, I was running head of my application syringe against the painted surface of the plastic arm and it has scratched it in places. At least it has scratched black and not white!
Should still look ok though. I went for a far more spaced rice plant, not hugely realistic, but I think it helps my figure placing a little better.
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Now to let this first water coat dry....
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That is coming together nicely. Looks great.
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I did the same thing recently and it worked out OK so don't panic ;)
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Cheers guys, and yup looks good Paul. Ok panic over, I shall let that one dry, then add another layer of water.
Meanwhile, a little climber action for the big tree.
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I am SO going to have to make more of these! Just a little thin beige wool, soaked in a mix of water, pva, and grey/brown paint. The trick I think is not to overdo it but I’m happy with these. When dry and hardened, I think a little grey dry brush and a few splotched of green wash will be enough to finish them. Now to think about the base.....this is the bit I know I’m crap at....making jungle shrub....
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That's amazing :-*
make me 20 lol
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Make me 20 too, that will even the score (scores?)
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I hardly think so guys.....I intend to make myself half a dozen or so in time.....they are very time consuming!
I’m glad you like them!
So, I need to tackle the elephant in the room, err....jungle. Before I start putting aquarium jungle stuff around it’s base, I need to practice on some other bits. With that in mind, I will base up half a dozen palm trees with enough space for the scrub....then we will have a go.
Pleased with my egrets on the paddy field, I am now on the lookout for tropical birds and curling snakes.....
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There are topics that you ignore for months - probably the subject matter just doesn’t spark an interest. Isn’t it great when you eventually look at it and find it’s totally enthralling and inspirational and has 11 pages you can gorge on? When that happens, you’ve hit the LAF jackpot. And I’ve just done that with this.
So enjoyable - a real gem.
I’m hooked.
Thank you Digits.
Doug
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Doug that’s really kind of you to say so, and I hope I continue to entertain.....
Thanks fella
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Inspirational terrain :)
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'Big tree' looks super; sort of thing one climbs over whilst looking for mangos, if brave enough to get off the boat...
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Hi Digits
Looking good mate! Well impressed!
Ian
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Doug that’s really kind of you to say so, and I hope I continue to entertain.....
Thanks fella
My pleasure - it’s a great topic.
The big question is, what figures are you going to use for those demons that don’t like flying over ponds - they are obviously an essential element of this project. :)
Doug
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I may just have to find an appropriate Asian model. To be fair, I haven’t made the pond yet.....though I do have the water lilies for it!
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From what I have seen of rice planting at that time, ir was sparse. Planting nowadays us far more densewith improved plants and fertilisers.
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The rice paddies look great.
Nice work on the tree.
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Thank you kindly.
So it looks as if the water is set, so time for a second layer. It’s a little thin in places (you can see in the foreground) but that will rectify. I’m quite chuffed how it’s working out though.
Thought I’d put up this little atmospheric shot. I’m a firm believer in adding small bits of interest to a larger model. My memories from the bus in Vietnam were LOTS of egrets wherever there was pooled water. The buffalo is simply a matter of snipping off his lower legs.
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Ok second layer going on, then let’s practice jungle shrub.... :?
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Yes I think it looks great, looks like what it is supposed to be.
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Looking lovely. All coming together nicely.
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I than you sirs!
So, this Vallejo water is very fast setting compared to anything else I’ve come across! 2 layers on. I may leave it for a few weeks before applying a third if indeed I do at all.
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The Egret seems singularly unimpressed with the passing marines!
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Nicely done but the tufts don’t really look very rice-like to me. Too clumpy. I was thinking along similar lines but I might go with something a bit more sparse, like static grass or sisal.
The paddies themselves, the water effect and the egret are very nice though.
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Having looked through the photographs on Wikipedia (ie I have not really done any research ^___^):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_field (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_field)
I can see the resemblance to the Korean photograph, the Vietnam one looks like tall grass. I guess it might be at different stages, as it appears to be planted in bunches.
Still, I would be more than happy with the effect, though possibly more random clumps for a half way between planting and harvesting look (with a side order of the wandering buffalo).
How fluid is the Vallejo water effect?
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Very fluid. I was just putting on in layers of two mm though so I needed to move it about a little. Thicker layer of 3mm+ would be very fluid. I love it!
I agree it is not the most realistic rice.....this is a wargames piece after all and I don’t lay claim to ultra realistic modelling (as you will attest when I tackle the jungle shrubbery) .......but I like the final effect. Most pictures I’ve found on line are either just planted (little tufts spread out) or almost fully ripe and bushed up ahead of harvest. I just imagine mine been somewhere in between maybe?! I still have the second set to do, ( to a total of 4 paddies) one of which will have half planted / harvested field and hopefully ( if Empress don’t dally, standing farmers tending / picking / planting the rice. Hopefully they will also do some loose rice baskets. I have a “cargo” load of stacked baskets from another supplier, and I may do a push mould from those....
This morning, my koi carp arrived for the village pond, though they need repainting, and I need to find some good looking standing reeds....
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Heki produce long grass in four or five inch strands in a variety of colours. I reckon they’s make perfect reeds as they are thicker than static grass or tufts. Failing that, the average house painting brush, re-coloured should provide more than enough and cheaper than the model railway alternative.
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I have to say rice or no rice, those are really beautiful pieces, the buffalo and crane set the whole scene off perfectly.
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I am sure you said where you got the egrets but I cannot find it. They are a nice touch.
I would be tempted to individually base them and use them to rack up the tension - did they fly away because of a lurking enemy?
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Thanks dr bogo!
Link to egrets
http://www.mirliton.it/historical-25-28mm/wild-birds-ack027
Yup, they ain’t even bothered when it gets toasty!
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It’s an idea but that doesn't bother me......in fact I’ve just come up with another idea that I’m hoping will look good (not spoiling the surprise though).
It’s actually interesting looking around for different 28mm birds, many being the shape of similar looking South Asia equivalents. I’ve found swimming / sitting ducks for example....they will look good sat in a rice field too.
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Thanks.
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Like your explosion markers!! Can you give us a walkthrough how you did them?!
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Errrm...ok.
Build a few of these.
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Basically.....steel pins stuck in a lump of green stuff, stuck to (in this case 40mm) round base.
I will fish some pics from an old tutorial I posted elsewhere.....but you basically stick green clump foliage on the pins using hot glue / superglue.....spray black......lightly spray grey....then dollop on red yellow and orange! Simples!
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Then you can expand on it and add debris....
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Or bigger explosions.....to be fair this is a ball cock covered in clump foliage
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Or....and my favourite, make something blow up mid air.....we did this for Gamesday a few years ago. Aircraft painted by a friend on AB...explosion by me.
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Nice work.
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Banging! BIG BANGING!!!!!
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Thanks for the walkthrough . On my list for future projects!!
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You should. I’ve always found it adds to game enjoyment if you can VISUALISE the action. These are simple to make and a fun addition to the game. ;)
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A little WIP.
Many tropical rain forests have trees with buttressed roots, fins if you like. Often a way to stabilise tall trees in areas of shallow top soil or poor quality soil.
To represent this, I have simply added a few wires as an armature, as shown here.
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Using air drying clay, I then simply sculpt the fins thus
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When it drys I will simply coat them along with the wire tree in the same latex I used before.
I have also used the clay along with a little tree bark to create escarpments which will be covered in jungle shrubbery.
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And I have created the first palm bases which will get the shrubbery treatment.
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Looking good.
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A little WIP.
Many tropical rain forests have trees with buttressed roots, fins if you like. Often a way to stabilise tall trees in areas of shallow top soil or poor quality soil.
To represent this, I have simply added a few wires as an armature, as shown here.
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Using air drying clay, I then simply sculpt the fins thus
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When it drys I will simply coat them along with the wire tree in the same latex I used before.
I have also used the clay along with a little tree bark to create escarpments which will be covered in jungle shrubbery.
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And I have created the first palm bases which will get the shrubbery treatment.
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Great table lamp lol
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Yeh....not sure the missus would agree! :D
So, just given the tree it’s second coat of latex and extended it over the roots. This I’ve decided will be as big as trees get on my table. There is still the problem of storage to solve! It’s about 4 inches taller than the first, so about 15 inches in total.
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Worked out slightly better than I thought! I’m quite happy with these now I have added the shrub. I’m also quite stoked, I found some “climbing weeds” by Jarvis which when combined alongside by climbers looks quite effective me thinks.
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Looking good mate ;)
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That's superb; going to need a tiger for that jungle (to guard the mangoes...)
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Thanks guys.
Look back a few pages....there is a tiger in the bamboo thicket!
An idea now of how it will come together on the table....
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My goodness, if you do ALL THAT for just two Marines...
I can't wait to see your set up when you get a whole platoon!!!!!
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Steady on mate.....there’s three of ‘em!
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very nice terrain indeed
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Lovely work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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That is the best jungle scenery that I have ever seen. :-* :-*
Well Done
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Agree, well done.
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Those trees are gobsmackingly good.
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Many thanks chaps, very pleased they are hitting the mark.
But having just finished this one, it is now my favourite, complete with buttress roots.
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The buttress roots....was that working from something you had seen, or photo reference? I have seen pics of similar trees in the Amazon but the roots weren't covered, they stuck some way out the ground and sometimes had space underneath. I just wondered why you covered them over?
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Yup I’ve seen both types but in the jungles of Cameroon where I lived as a kid, these were quite normal.
A quick search on buttress roots and these are similar....
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Oh yeah....weird looking! :o Charlie could hide half a platoon behind one tree!
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Very impressive work. :o
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The trees are gorgeous indeed ! Would nick the idea but storage will be a problem as they are so big.
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I've seen similar trees on Borneo, excellent modelling sir :)
How about putting them in the windows and telling the wife that they're real plants?
Saves you storage and watering the plants
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I had thought of that.....but my wife can kill ANY house plant and I’ve spent entirely too long making it! lol
Anyway, pleased with this little idea, I will need to get hands on a couple more. Reaper do a murder of crows. Taking off from the tops of the trees like this gives me a little sense of a gun crack disturbing the quiet of the forest....
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Fantastic! That's a really characterful addition to your already cracking work.
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Loving this thread - and the animals are all well thought through to execution.
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Thanks. To be fair whoever sculpted them deserves the credit. Biggest issue I have is finding sufficiently useful animals.
For Africa, the mammals are pretty well catered for.....Though Mostly for th3 savanna, where I lived in Cameroon, you actually didn’t see many mammals in the jungle. Wild pigs, civets, chimpanzees, monkeys yes, but not a lot else. Of course there were leopards and other skulking things but very rare to see. Pretty much EVERY day you would hear the lowland gorillas but your chances of seeing them were zip. What you DID see was an absolute abundance of bird life and I expect nothing less of SE Asian forests.
Anywhere you find water, you will always see birds. The egrets are actually very populous from what I saw both in Africa and Vietnam so they will feature heavily and luckily you can buy them. I have the peacocks to paint....and though I don’t recall seeing any, they do exist in Vietnam.
You can buy ducks, and I want some swimming ones when I get round to pools. I have some parrots to paint, so I need to look at appropriate ones for the region, though as a personal favourite, the African grey, I may put one in for kicks ( plus I’m using this for an African game too).
Sadly, the only company I can find making suitable monkeys is Gringo, they are great but sadly only two poses of the same type. I can add baboons for Africa and fir chance encounter, plenty of choice of gorilla. Gringo also made the great tiger I painted.
Crows thankfully can be found pretty much everywhere, but after that, I’m struggling with birds to find any. I can lay hands on the on bird of prey / vulture, but not much else.
Snakes....I’m about to try and heat and bend the few I have, but surprisingly I’m struggling to find many I can use.
I’m sure I will find a waterline / submerged croc I like.
I keep looking. If anyone does spot suitable miniatures I’ve missed PLEASE do let me know.
What I’m most interested in finding, hornbills, other wading birds, sika deer, more snakes (not giant ones!), guinea fowl, monkeys.
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Chickens (and other farm animals liek pigs)? The Eureka Miniature ones (you'll need to email Nic for them) are very nice.
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Parrots? Oooh, you want a Norwegian Blue, dead cheap.
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I think Bad Squiddo is doing chickens
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I have plenty of chickens and pigs cheers. As for dead parrots, did you know that they reckon there WERE parrots in Norway about 50million years ago......maybe one for my Lost World thread!
The real shame being cost, it I have found lots of monkeys and gibbons in drop earring form! I will pass paying for gold monkeys however.
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I will pass paying for gold monkeys however
And I doubt brass monkeys would be suitable for Vietnam either :D
Those crows (rooks?) look great - I don’t recall ever seeing that done with wargames scenery before - splendid work.
Doug
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This might be of interest:
https://www.facebook.com/aprilchandler/videos/592761994863904/UzpfSTEwMDAwODE3MDAwMDcwNjoxNDAzMTIxNjY5ODU3NzY5/
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Cheers...similar principals....very arty farty indeed though.
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See Digits, she did all of them in just over 3 minutes.
No problem then you knocking them out for all of us on LAF.
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Oh well if it’s that simple then just tell me how many you want! ::)
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Okay, that was impressive.
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Marathon sprint....three more trees. That’s it for now, I may wait a month or so before doing any more of them. I’ve hit the half dozen I was aiming for.....for now.
I can’t do the village and other rice fields until the civilians are released, so I will concentrate on painting troops for a while.
I will be putting up a to date jungle shot in a short while in my Daftest Africa thread.
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Really excellent.
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They look great.
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Hey, Digits. Finally found a few moments to grab a lianas vine strong enough and swung over from the Pulp thread to this one here. Now I see you do, indeed, have painted monkeys - and they don't look pained at all. ;)
Very nice work in so many directions.
Egrets must be ubiquitous, they are all over the place here in California, also great blue herons, both noisy and nasty sounding when 'talking'. We have what is called The Great Pacific Flyway and at certain times of year an hours drive north - through vast reaches of rice fields, by the way, and lots of almond and other orchards, nuts or not - one can see tens and even hundreds of thousands of birds. They do seem to be self-segregating, one field with one type of bird, next field another type. I have a stowage of birds for eventual use for my 15 mm stuff, some from HO model railroad ranges. You might have better luck looking for O scale birds for your use. Yeah, a bit pricey - but not gold pricey.
Also, while smaller you might find a use for them, check out Splintered Light Miniatures animals page - birds and bats swarms meant for 15 mm but you might be able to use. Also, they have komodo dragons which might be a fun addition, more for pulp than Vietnam. And don't ignore Irregular miniatures animal ranges in case you find something of use. And Peter Pig has a pack of eagles in one of its ranges you might be able to adapt, they are bigger birds.
I don't know if you have the TOOB range of toys over there but see if you can track them down, they have a pack of exotic birds (way too big for my use) that might give you some useful items. You'll want to see them in person, though, in case they are too big for your use. I usually see them in craft stores in this part of the planet.
Again, lots of thievery inspiration here. Well done.
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Those trees are spectacular
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I agree. I’m stunned.
Dan
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So, Digits, I know you've been distracted with other things like Pulp and Nappies for a bit, but, when you get back to this project, just a little reminder: we haven't seen the village house and it's carp pond finished up yet. Nor the carp in the pond! lol
Came back to re-consume the whole thread as I tried to get some work done on my own jungle today. Tried but not much progress because working at home and 'work' got a bit busy plus I had other tasks around the house in need of my attention. Being in 15 mm, I have to create more trees to cover a similar space (at least in my mind I have to) so I'm setting out to do a minimum of 36 trees but trying something different from the twisted wire. We'll see how it turns out in the end. At least, if it does turn out, it can be used in many different settings, anywhere there are tropical rain forests.
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Thanks to seeing Ash scratch making some village buildings, I happened across my own resin buildings whilst hunting through my garage, and decided that it was about time I did something with them, in order that I may finally actually get to play a game utilising my jungle trees! Besides, I also realise I have started far more projects than I will ever get to finish, so I’m revisiting a few of my favourites ;)
I finally made about a dozen of the trees, which should be enough for a reasonable game table, coupled with lower vegetation etc. (You can see them all in my Daftest Africa thread)
So first off, the buildings. I picked these up years ago for a few shekels on eBay. I now realise they are ill fitting and using boiling water to try and bend roofs into place is only mildly effective. Still, I have done what I can. I realise!they didn’t come with stilts so that’s going to be my first job.
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Welcome back ;)
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Cheers Paul.
I may finally get to order some civilians from you! Are there likely to be any more in the pipeline or are they done with?
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Things always get added to but not at the moment.
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Excellent...
Those huts were a very good find, couldn't see anything like that online.
In my head that's sort of what I imagined my DIY efforts would end up looking like, then reality stepped in and I realised I'd spent a day & a half super gluing my fingers together. Combined with 'teddy-bear fur' my hands ended up looking like they'd been tarred & feathered. It was however a cathartic exercise, as I now no longer wish to make anymore huts...
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Excellent...
Those huts were a very good find, couldn't see anything like that online.
In my head that's sort of what I imagined my DIY efforts would end up looking like, then reality stepped in and I realised I'd spent a day & a half super gluing my fingers together. Combined with 'teddy-bear fur' my hands ended up looking like they'd been tarred & feathered. It was however a cathertic exercise, as I now no longer wish to make anymore huts...
lol lol lol lol
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The resin houses look like these from Barrage Miniatures in Spain.
https://www.barrageminiatures.com/18-asianpacificbuildings (https://www.barrageminiatures.com/18-asianpacificbuildings)
I have their Sampans and Vietnamese Fishing boat.
https://www.barrageminiatures.com/31-boats (https://www.barrageminiatures.com/31-boats)
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Yup…the same ones.
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I did see those, then saw the price and retreated back to Scroogeville, population Moi...
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At the time I bought them, I didn’t realise they were from overseas. Someone sold them as a job lot of ebay. Tbh…I thought everyone was using them! Lol
Must admit…not keen on the Sarissa ones….but in the hands of someone clever, they could look brilliant. Have you not tried those?
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Must admit…not keen on the Sarissa ones….but in the hands of someone clever, they could look brilliant. Have you not tried those?
I thought about them, also not that keen (probably a lot more sturdy though), also occured to me that all the stuff I'd end up sticking to them I could just stick to a basic box frame, so went that route instead. More money for beer & Land Rover parts...
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Yours will look fine, don’t worry!
So I realise why I will never collect miniature tall ships, and for that matter why I was a crap scout! I can not tie a tidy knot if my nuts were on the line! :?
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Still, don’t think it will look too bad painted up I hope….now to do the other one.
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Very nicely done! I love how that spruces up the hut and makes it come to life...
Mike Demana
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
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Cheers. Both done and primed…..just need to figure out how to paint it…I’ve always hated straw / grass roofs!
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When painted, I will add a few pots / mats / drying clothing etc to make them “lived in”. In hindsight, I think round tree log posts would have looked better…..hey ho.
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.just need to figure out how to paint it…I’ve always hated straw / grass roofs!
Paint them a dark undercoat. e.g. Burnt Umber.
When that is dry, use a lighter colour e.g. any
sandy-yellow match-pot will do. dry brush this
onto the 'thatch'. Drag the brush diagonally down-
wards, this will create the shadows. Then add
some white to the Dry-brush colour & repeat,
but with much less pressure.
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Thanks pete!
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really nice huts
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Thatching done…now to look about and get ideas for the huts themselves. In my minds eye, I’m envisioning green…turning light brown . There are a few different wall textures on these though…
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Also, I’m trying to make a green stuff copy of some rice baskets I have from Eureka. They won’t be perfect as I’m just using blue mould putty. It would be great if things like rice baskets, rice mats, drying fish racks etc were available commercially. Hey ho….
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It would be great if things like rice baskets, rice mats, drying fish racks etc were available commercially. Hey ho….
Seconded, I've been hunting for baskets & pots.
Thatch is looking good.
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Cheers fella.
Well…first one is about 70% ok….I need to do a little gs work to it to rescue it!
I’m in two minds whether to break out the two part mould latex and do it properly….then cast a few in resin….not sure the push mould is the right tool for this…
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Persevering, I used the push mould again and this time, much better looking piece. Good enough with a minor tweak to the rim of one of the top baskets I feel. I only need a few of these so saves messing about with resin casting I think!
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looking good, indeed. Were did you get the original one from?
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Eureka. It’s a cart load from their Vietnam section. Would be nice to have a few loose ones mind.
I need to look for larger baskets, like the one from the Platoon village scene you see them drop a grenade into.
Clay Pots I can find elsewhere, but I may have to make myself a fish drying rack.
I need to look for a stack of tin pots, a suitable cooking pot (there must be loads of them about).
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The Mk II version looks much improved. I need something like this aswell, is this the stowage piece that comes with the 'Ox cart'?
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It is. Lost a little wicker definition but for quick and dirty, they will do.
Talking of quick and dirty….I’ve painted the huts. Need to add ladders (I see Paul sells some, I will use those). As I get to do some mats etc, I will add some clutter to each of them…but they are game able!
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Nice.
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Excellent result, and that bit of 'building stowage' is the proverbial cherry on top of the cake.
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Great work Digits, really good colours and construction
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Many thanks!
I’ve sent a note seeing if they will sell me another base so I can put the third hut up on stilts….otherwise the fella living in it will get soggy feet.
Next I want to find the other frame I made for the next paddy fields…..just not sure where I put it…..
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Those huts are superb sir
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very nice result indeed
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Cheers guys!
Good news for me, I will be receiving the raised base I need for the third hut so I can get that one put up on stilts too.
Struggling to find my WIP carp pond and second rice field….looks like I need to start again!
I have however found a pair of Vietnamese riverboats so I may paint those up next.
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In a moment of clarity (old age it a bitch!) I found my WIP paddy field and pond base! So once I order some more water effect, I will get those done.
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I also want to modify this diecast model, cutting out the door window as well as the domed observation hatch, to pop in a gunner….this will then get a repaint with luck to look more like it belongs in the jungle. ie…more like this…
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Problem is, I have no idea how to cut diecast !
Anyone have experience? Any tips welcome, cheers.
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Nice work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Please bear in mind this is pure theory but this method has worked on many materials and applications. I would stitch drill inside the lone of the hatch you want to cut out. Stitch drilling is the simple technique of drilling a line of holes next to each other slightly overlapping so in effect cutting a line, the piece will come out and off you go with a metal file up to the lines you want left. Another option would be to use a drill bit just smaller than the hatch and drill through once again getting busy with the file. Another thing to remember is to drill using a slower speed than you would drilling wood or the drill bit will bind and break very quickly.
Hope that helps
JB
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Thanks for the tips there JB.
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Problem is, I have no idea how to cut diecast !
Anyone have experience? Any tips welcome, cheers.
Do you have a Dremel type tool? You can get mini grinding/cutting discs for them.
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I do…not that I have used cutting disks before, but willing to give it a go. If I cut past the points, I can always fill with gs I suppose……I’m thinking the little hatch may be too problematic….I may just drill out and set about it with a file?
Edit: hmmm….I’m not brave enough to cut this with the disc….too curvy and it’s hard enough holding a drill to it, never mind a disc!
So I’m going to do a few more holes tomorrow before setting about it with files….
At the moment…it looks like it’s taken hits from a .50 cal!
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And I may just do this one hatch…..
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I am a bit too late but as someone who has done quite a bit of stitch drilling on diecasts I would have used a smaller diameter drill there...oops. But hey you are still inside the line of where you want to cut so this is going to be fine in the end ;)
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The huts are great by the way. Peter told me to come and look. Amazing the difference the stilts make to the look.
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I have two of the same chopper models so will follow your progress closely.
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Lol….don’t follow me too closely…you could loose a finger! I’m sure you’d do a better job than I!
James….I should have known you’d converted diecast…..
Anyway…good enough for government work!
It’s a little ropy but once I zero in on a suitable door gunner….it won’t really be that visible anyway! Probably putting the heli on hold now until I sort the gunner…
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Thatching done…now to look about and get ideas for the huts themselves. In my minds eye, I’m envisioning green…turning light brown . There are a few different wall textures on these though…
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Also, I’m trying to make a green stuff copy of some rice baskets I have from Eureka. They won’t be perfect as I’m just using blue mould putty. It would be great if things like rice baskets, rice mats, drying fish racks etc were available commercially. Hey ho….
Full Metal Miniatures have a pack of rice pots, sacks etc.
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Ooh! I shall take a look….thank you!
Edit: Wow! Exactly what I’m after…….next months shopping list!
Meanwhile pushing on whilst I’m in the mood, I have made a start on the second paddy patch and the pond base.
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Still a bit to do, but the pond will have some carp, a veg patch, flora and fauna, and the rice fields will be partially planted / harvested, have a few villagers working in them (placed a small Empress order but any further hobby purchases will need to wait until month end!)
I’m also going to put a swimming snake into one of the pools….probably one of these two kraits……both found in Vietnam…….both dangerous ( the blue or Malayan krait being as bad ass as they come!). I’m lucky that they are nice and garish, therefore easy to paint! Lol
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I mentioned Barrage Miniatures are sending me a base for my baseless hut, but the very helpful Clara is also sending me a little boat as a gift! She informs me however that the huts are being redone and should be available later this summer….I may have to add another one or two then!
Whilst looking for the paddy field base, I also came across a large tree armature that didn’t make it to the latex stage…..so this one will get a crashed aircraft stuck in it m3 thinks…lots to do…..and eventually, I may get to paint some minis! ;)
Edit:
WIP continues…..
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A bit to do yet….
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Not quite there yet…but coming together! Next job, when the grasses are dried on, is to add water…. :(
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We’ll be scaring off those demons in no time!
Still needs an egret or two, a step ladder fir the house, a few pots etc
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Great progress, it’s really beginning to come together, and details like the pots make it look lived in
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Really nice details :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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That vegetable patch really makes it. Shouldn't at least one of the hooches have a pot bellied pig tied up outside?
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I have a piggy wig ready to go! Just cleaned up half a dozen egrets to paint along with a few snakes!
As for the veg patch….chucked in a few cabbages. I know kimchi is Korean, but surely the area would obviously be used to eating cabbage then and indeed other fermented vegetables (considering storage issues).
A side note, but with South Korea supplying the second largest non Vietnamese force to the region after the US, the lack of Kimchi availability to the Korean troops was bemoaned by their leaders and Johnson had to promos to provide the infrastructure to be able to produce it in enough quantities to keep the Korean troops happy! ;)
I can’t finish the paddy fields until my Empress order arrives and I have to wait until next month for some pots etc….
Ideally, I want to find an elephant laying on his side….
Cheers all.
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Ideally, I want to find an elephant laying on his side….
I'd suggest a cheap plastic one (kiddies zoo set)
& a conversion job. A man of your ability should
have no problem with that. :)
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Very nicely done.
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Thanks…and I may just have a go Pete……we will see.
I have a small amount of water, the rest should arrive next week I hope. Not much done today…too hot! Painted a few more egrets as you can see. I need to paint some other bits for the other paddy yet anyway.
The Lilly pads are not easy to use with liquid water….I’m hoping when dry, they won’t look too bad.
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Pond base with egrets & veggie patch is superb, the lilly pads are a great touch.
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I agree- the egrets and the lily pads are great additions; really well done Digits.
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outstanmding terrain building.
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Thanks chaps!
Another idea
You remember these fellas from earlier in the thread, reaper minis.
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Well tbh..a little heavy being white metal, but I just noticed that zombicide do a whole box of crows in plastic….I will have to get some of those!
But even better ( to me anyway) are there are a number of resin printed birds available. I bought a pack of five ravens in differing poses, mostly flying. I can paint them as a raptor if I like, they will look fine. Best thing is though, they a light. A quick drill and the addition of a nylon paintbrush hair, and I can drill this one above the pond, as a flying / stooping raptor….and the nylon hair allows it to be flexible……I’m hoping it will look cool when done.
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I also envision doing this with casualty markers…..gathering crows above the bodies….gruesome!
Also painted a few snakes
I opted for the Malay Krait….Vietnam’s deadliest snake I think, which will be swimming through the paddy towards unsuspecting villager. Picture when the paddy is finished.
I’ve also painted one of these, Fea’s Viper, not so deadly but I liked the colour. This snake likes to hide in bamboo forests apparently…..
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It may seem to many that I’m going overboard with the little detail wildlife, but I like to play with a sense of atmosphere. I have no intention of playing massed tanks and hundreds of figures over this. Once I can source some appropriate rules (and I’m looking for inspiration here) I really want to play small unit actions here…..only a few dozen minis, hidden insurgents, traps etc….so to me, detailing is kinda important. I’m not professing it is in any way accurate mind, I just like to think I’ve put in a little effort!
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Quick paint job on the two river fishing boats. When I get a few civilians, I will put a figure in a boat, and add a few ropes and a net bundle….oh no….now I need a river!
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.oh no….now I need a river!
Don't panic David, you have water coming you said. :D
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:'( Not enough for a river…..
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The water effects so far look great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Looking forward to your take on a river
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The water effects so far look great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Looking forward to your take on a river
I am guessing it's going to be 18 inches wide at least to scale with his trees...
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This is brilliant mate 👏
Adding the animal to the terrain pieces is a great touch
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Really nice touches with the terrain details.
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Cheers guys.
Pond layer taking longer to cure than I’d hoped and still needs a few layers yet!
However, another animal added. Using the resin Raven and a brush bristle, I have painted him roughly as a copy of the below raptor seen in Nam. I like it, and have more to make yet so expect them to pop up a bit yet!
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I have a pair of peacock minis…so Green Peacocks can be found there. Plus, I’ve a whole bag of chickens / cockerels etc to paint!
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My replacement raised floors arrived (actually one is different and I like that one) as well as another small boat like the smallest one I just painted, that was nice of them!
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Likewise small order from Empress arrived too so I will paint up one civilian for the rice field so I can start pouring it, plus some ladders for the hooches.
I ordered the FNG Tour or Duty and the ops supplement as it sounds more what I’m after for this.
In the next day or so, I need to set up a table to see whether my jungle fits it or not, and THEN I will decide how to approach making a river…….however, I suspect it’s not going to be one that crosses the board…more likely I kind of need a “beach / edge of river” so put down one edge of the boards.
And I need to paint some soldiers.
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I played the FNG rules a couple of times
They were very detailed set of rules
Never really got into them
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As long as the rules cover snake bites I’m ok! If not, I will add my own flavour of random encounter into them!
So the lesson here, is if you are going to cross the rice paddy and you don’t NEED to go through the water…….don’t! Malay, or Blue Krait…..very nasty, very deadly.
Water poured….need to cure them now….
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Love the snake!
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But even better ( to me anyway) are there are a number of resin printed birds available.
May I ask where from?
My efforts to find any end up with things like
9" tall penguins or fluffy parrot toys!
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Etsy
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/994385584/crows-set-of-5-32mm-white-werewolf?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=raven+miniature&ref=sr_gallery-1-1
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Really great work on the water effects Digits, and the animals turn it from terrain into vignettes - superb.
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Thanks David, a pack ordered, though mine will be
for Indo-China & NOT Vietnam. :D :D :D
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Fill your boots!
Sparrow / Dr Bogo - cheers!
So, because my house is already like a bloody sauna today, I thought I’d quickly put up what I have to see what more I need…..
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Not bad, but room for a bit more I think!
I have two more large trees semi built, but I think ultimately, another couple on top of that should be enough……so 4 more large trees (one of which will have the crashed Dragonfly)
I have a couple of bags of bamboo left, enough to make a couple of thickets.
But most of all…..more ground cover pieces / palm stands.
And of course, a river or river edge.
Small details still required include, pots / baskets / bird flocks / poultry / third house / pits / traps / defensive positions……and I’m always open to suggestions for other bits!
Oh, and I’m on the lookout for some swinging primates…if you know where I can source those, please let me know.
Still, I’m chuffed so far. I could play on it, that’s the main thing.
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You are photo-shopping room walls around real photos aren't you lol lol lol
Stunning job and a great amount of work you have produced so quickly :-* :-* :-*
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Cheers Colin!
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That's all looking rather superb together, particularly liking those big trees...
Incidentally, which type of mat is that (PVC, cloth, mouse-mat etc)?
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It’s a Deepcut studio plains mouse mat. The same one I use for Normandy etc…useful finish to it I find.
Cheers Ash
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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4295901
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It’s a Deepcut studio plains mouse mat. The same one I use for Normandy etc…useful finish to it I find.
Cheers Ash
Works very well as the ground for a jungle.
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Yup, pretty versatile….that’s why I bought two! Lol
Poiter - thanks for link.
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Really nice work, your modelling skills are second to none.
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Very nice work David, but...
Oh, and I’m on the lookout for some swinging primates
wrong kind of web-site ;)
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Really nice work, your modelling skills are second to none.
Cheers mate, but a few on here may argue otherwise! ;)
Pete….you got a link?
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Pete….you got a link?
Not even the missing link lol lol lol
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Tunnel/bunker entrance or hidden MG log emplacement?
Would a village have a communal thing like a grain store or a big pen for animals?
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Tunnel/bunker entrance or hidden MG log emplacement?
https://www.3dbreed.es/product/imperial-japanese-army-ija-foxholes/
Prints well in 15mm or 28mm.
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Very nice 👍
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Thanks both!
So the Empress ladders work a treat and I painted the freebie canoe….( really need to think on how to do river).
The resin is slowly curing in the pond, but I need to add another layer or two yet!
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That ladder goes very well with those huts, could have been made for them.
I've not tried to do anything with water effect, curious to know how long the pond will take to cure? Will it cure clear?
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That’s the intent!
I poured it a bit too deep. You are meant to pour no deeper than 3mm….I may have exceeded that hence how long it’s taking. But it was completely milky white yesterday so definitely clearing.
More of a pondereance though….same product poured over the same coloured rice bushes….yet all three fields have yielded different final colours for the rice! Lol
I’m hoping they dry like the first one I did so time yet.
Found a bag of palm trees, enough for half a dozen bases at least, so I need to do those next I think….
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Productive couple of hours.
Cut and sanded the bases, used up the last two and a half bags of bamboo I had to make three more thickets and I also sorted the worst of the flash and mounted the palms.
Once the superglue has been prised from my fingers, I can start on the bamboo washes and the sand basing.
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Good work.
I have started painting some figures.
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Started reading the rules. A bit to digest but I think it will work with a few players each taking a squad.
I dusted off the few marines I already bought. Certainly enough for a section plus platoon hq. I need to get a few more minis at month end, mainly VC / main force VC. I can then play thru the rules…easier for me to visualise.
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Is that the FNG rules
I liked the campaign aspect of the rules
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Nice set of trees.
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Cheers…well they would be……my new Bosch glue pen has packed in, and I can’t find my old glue gun so finishing them may not happen for a while…. :'(
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Those look great. What do you use to cut those mats for your bases?
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Simple electric jigsaw. Then I bevel with a Stanley knife and sand the edges. Thought I’d run out of place mats but just found another pack of four whilst looking for glue gun!
All the palms come with a small lug on the end, so I drill the mat and the tree just slots in.
The bamboo is just a case of drilling lots of holes !
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Every time my wife buys new place-mats I get
the old ones :D
If I find I am using them up too fast, I trawl
the charity shops. I can normally pick up a lot
for not much cash.
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Yup, they are great! No war page and with the cork back, no slippage either. I dread to think over the years how many I’ve used!
ok so Amazon prime to the rescue with a less than 24 hour delivery of a cheap glue gun!
The bamboo has deliberately been left with open areas on the tow larger clumps. I will in due course make some gun pits etc that can be placed in them as necessary.
Should be able to field a decent sized bamboo Forrest with these additions.
Found a nice aquarium wild moss at Pets at Home that gave me the upright grasses for the palm bases.
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nice terrain additions
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Looking good. Kinda needs some napalm exploding in the distance lol lol lol
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Good work 8)
Looking good. Kinda needs some napalm exploding in the distance lol lol lol
100% this...and “The End” playing in the background
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Perhaps one day I will set up that picture! ;)
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I have it planned to do as well ;)
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Ah, that's nice, you two have a burning ambition in common. lol
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Nice bush 👌
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That is a nice selection of greenery.
Ah, that's nice, you two have a burning ambition in common. lol
Ba-dum Tish! He will be here all week, please tip your waitress...
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Ba-dum Tish! He will be here all week, please tip your waitress...
Ah, & I wuz only Arson-ing about. :D
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Mojo has been warning of late, but to celebrate the near completion of my new conservatory /office / games room, and because a few of the other chaps have started to look at BOHICA, I have decided that I have enough scenery for now and it’s time to kick start the gathering if forces properly.
Rules book ordered, and I will make a start painting up these fellas.
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Is it a trick of the light, or have you painted
the bases in different colours?
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Not really painted at all….I had some first pass brown on half of them though…the others are just primed black! To be fair Pete, I wasn’t expecting critique of my painting of them thus far! Lol.
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Nice start Digits, hope the conservatory works out for you.
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Excellent, eye candy... looking forward to seeing these progress.
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Blimey about time lol
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To be fair Pete, I wasn’t expecting critique of my painting of them thus far! Lol.
I was just wondering if it was some new technique,
like undercoating horses different colours, then
giving them all a brown wash.
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Nice to see you are not rushing along with this project - terrain for five years, figures for five years, five years to digest the rules - and, why, heck, you will be gaming in no time (from a wheelchair maybe?! :o ;) lol
I actually came by to book mark because I am going to give the twisted wire trees a go in the near future - like before the end of the year.