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Title: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sir_Theo on March 17, 2017, 06:46:16 PM
I just saw this title on a list of Osprey preorders

http://www.bloomsbury.com/au/draculas-america-shadows-of-the-west-9781472817785/


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Dracula's America: Shadows of the West
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By: Jonathan Haythornthwaite
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Published: 27-07-2017
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About Dracula's America: Shadows of the West
It is 1875, and Count Dracula is President of the United States of America.

In the wake of the Civil War, with the country struggling to regain its balance, Dracula seized power. The Count's thralls assassinated President Lincoln and his entire administration in a single night and, in the ensuing chaos, their master made his move. Dominating the Senate, he declared himself President-for-Life, and now rules the Union with fear and an iron fist. His vampiric progeny, the Coven of the Red Hand, infest every strata of society, and enforce Dracula's will with ruthless efficiency.

Drawn by the shadows gathering across the nation, secretive cults and evil creatures emerge from their lairs to thrive in the darkness of the new regime. Fleeing from the oppression and menace of the East, hordes of pioneers head to the West, hoping for a new life.

Dracula's greed, however, knows no bounds, and his reach is long…

Dracula's America: Shadows of the West is a skirmish game of Gothic horror set in an alternate Old West. Secret wars rage across the country – from bustling boom-towns to the most remote wilderness – as cults and secret societies fight for power and survival. Players will throw their support behind one of these factions, and will lead a Posse of up to a dozen individual models in fast-paced, cinematic battles for dominance and survival.

Beyond this does anyone know any more?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: eMills on March 17, 2017, 10:43:32 PM
I'd not heard of this before now, but it certainly sounds interesting.

Hopefully someone can add more info.

~Eric
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: FierceKitty on March 18, 2017, 01:26:10 AM
President for unlife, surely?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on March 18, 2017, 09:15:23 AM

ANNO DRACULA + ABRAHAM LINCOLN VAMPIRE HUNTER rip-off! :D

 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on March 18, 2017, 09:46:05 AM
ANNO DRACULA + ABRAHAM LINCOLN VAMPIRE HUNTER rip-off! :D

I was thinking the same thing myself.  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on March 18, 2017, 10:21:38 AM
I was thinking the same thing myself.  ;)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: YPU on March 18, 2017, 10:32:34 AM
Also reminds me a lot of deadlands. Not this dracula overstory (though trough the years deadlands populated the government with all sorts of critters) but the general darkness spreading and monsters emerging in the wild west idea. I'm mostly curious to see what sort of system this will bring, will have have spellslinging bandits atop stagecoaches slinger hexes at demonic harassers?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sterling Moose on March 18, 2017, 03:54:03 PM
I like the Osprey stuff, usually a good read even if you don't end up using the rules.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on March 18, 2017, 04:59:34 PM
Iam interested but hope it comes out in a book format as well.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: YPU on March 18, 2017, 09:04:01 PM
Iam interested but hope it comes out in a book format as well.

all osprey games have up to this point.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on March 18, 2017, 10:53:25 PM
Yes, I saw on Amazon that the book is due to be out in July.
Unlike other Osprey rules, this one costs $30.00.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sir_Theo on March 19, 2017, 06:51:46 AM
Yes, I saw on Amazon that the book is due to be out in July.
Unlike other Osprey rules, this one costs $30.00.

Dors that mean it will be a Hardback like Scrappers, Horizon wars etc?

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Conquistador on March 19, 2017, 10:23:49 PM
Love or hate it for me, I suspect.   lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Metternich on March 21, 2017, 10:25:25 PM
Sorry, just can't picture Dracula in the Wild West.  He's definitely a product of the Old World.  Anno Dracula was perfect.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: SotF on March 21, 2017, 10:57:18 PM
Sorry, just can't picture Dracula in the Wild West.  He's definitely a product of the Old World.  Anno Dracula was perfect.

Perhaps the west is only part of it.

It seems like Dracula is more of the East Coast and similar in where he'd be focused. Sure, he'd have a few spreading out. There is an interesting story about a Vampire that ran amok in Washington DC shortly before the Civil War that I came across in a book of myths from the DC area a while back who had a description that would fit Vlad rather well...

You also have Drac Vs the Civil War stuff with southern belles and the like which might be an interesting thing
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on March 22, 2017, 10:29:54 AM
Perhaps the west is only part of it.

It seems like Dracula is more of the East Coast and similar in where he'd be focused. Sure, he'd have a few spreading out. There is an interesting story about a Vampire that ran amok in Washington DC shortly before the Civil War that I came across in a book of myths from the DC area a while back who had a description that would fit Vlad rather well...

You also have Drac Vs the Civil War stuff with southern belles and the like which might be an interesting thing

SotF, could you please be more specific regarding fonts/bibliography?  :o
 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: SotF on March 22, 2017, 11:51:32 PM
SotF, could you please be more specific regarding fonts/bibliography?  :o
 

Ghosts: Washington Revisited: The Ghostlore of the Nation's Capital
By John Alexander

If it helps, the cover also lists it as "A Schiffer Book for Collectors" and copyright is 1998. The story of it is on page 80 of the book...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on March 22, 2017, 11:53:23 PM
Ghosts: Washington Revisited: The Ghostlore of the Nation's Capital
By John Alexander

If it helps, the cover also lists it as "A Schiffer Book for Collectors" and copyright is 1998. The story of it is on page 80 of the book...

MANY THANKS!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: SotF on March 23, 2017, 01:30:02 AM
MANY THANKS!  ;)

You can probably find a bunch of other interesting bits and pieces in similar books about good chunks of the east coast.

Can't remember which episode it was, but the ArchyFantasies Podcast (https://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/archyfantasies/) had one that went heavily into a couple "vampire burials" from colonial era graveyards.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on June 03, 2017, 06:48:46 PM
Just an Update.

I see that Amazon is now selling it for $19.50.
It is due out in August.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malamute on June 03, 2017, 07:38:25 PM
There are pictures up on Northstars Facebook page of the rules with some illustrations and photos of some of the miniatures.
I don't get the genre, so will not be buying but am impressed With the figures, the dance hall/prostitute Vampiress is lovely. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 04, 2017, 01:04:03 AM
There are pictures up on Northstars Facebook page of the rules with some illustrations and photos of some of the miniatures.
I don't get the genre, so will not be buying but am impressed With the figures, the dance hall/prostitute Vampiress is lovely. :)

Malamute,  many thanks for the info!

(https://scontent.fbnu1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p403x403/18813978_301425013638624_1455770277668563061_n.jpg?oh=e0872701f529394a2cd93c5356ca5a62&oe=59B3372B)

I think that with that outfit, the vampire dancer will fit very well into any Victorian setting as a... err... VAMPIRE DANCER!  ;)  

And the Cree gunslinger as a gypsy turned into a vampire, maybe...

But the fluff of the Dracula's America setting looks like a very lame ANNO DRACULA rip-off to me! (Dracula as president of the US?! WTF?!?!?!)  ;D

At least with ANNO DRACULA we would have a Genevieve miniature!  :-*



Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 04, 2017, 02:35:36 AM
Well said, Edu! I agree with you on all of your points.  8)

I really do like the male and female vampires you've shown and I could find a use for both of them.   :)

+1 for a Genevieve miniature!  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: THE CID on June 04, 2017, 09:06:53 AM
I will have these, as long as North Stars casting has improved. I had to send my Rogue Star figures back, as they were terrible. However the customer service from them was excellent.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 04, 2017, 01:54:53 PM
I really do like the male and female vampires you've shown and I could find a use for both of them.   :)

They are basically Victorian vamps after all, so we can use them for Western, VSF, Gothic Horror... even Pirates and Fantasy (with just a slight adjust on the gun)... and Post Apoc and SF, where all kinds of weird outfits are game!

Specially the lady in red, of course! :D


+1 for a Genevieve miniature!  :-*

I fell in love with her since the publication of "Drachenfels" and "Beasts in Velvet" in the late 80s! I remember buying the lame "Death's Dark Shadows" supplement for WFRP only because it has Genevieve's stats and biography!  lol

The world definitely NEEDS a Gené movie! NOW!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Lowtardog on June 04, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
A few years ago I was very much interested in weird west genre, reading as much fiction as possible. Now I have sold it all off there seems a spike in interest...bleeding typical ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 04, 2017, 09:20:57 PM
The world definitely NEEDS a Gené movie! NOW!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Hell, yeah! I'm all for more movies with sexy female vampires in them!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 04, 2017, 09:41:10 PM
Hell, yeah! I'm all for more movies with sexy female vampires in them!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 04, 2017, 09:46:53 PM
A few years ago I was very much interested in weird west genre, reading as much fiction as possible. Now I have sold it all off there seems a spike in interest...bleeding typical ;D

Weird West is really a very fun setting! You can mix it with Gothic Horror and VSF, and collecting an Old West town with its buildings and townsfolk can be a very interesting and rewarding hobby by itself! The scenery will also work for Pulp and MULP ("Modern Pulp") adventures...  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 05, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
We are just moving in this direction after decades of "traditional' fantasy gaming.  We are fairly hooked on Shadows of Brimstone, and these figures should fit right in.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 05, 2017, 06:15:20 PM

From the rulebook: that same red dress lady at dinner time:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17202859_261540360960423_7625197776074378111_n.jpg?oh=c772772bf533d73dc05f20ab128f444a&oe=59AD4DC0)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on June 05, 2017, 06:21:37 PM
Could be fun. Horror wild west seems to be a big theme this year - so a wealth of figs and rules for this.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 05, 2017, 09:51:39 PM
From the rulebook: that same red dress lady at dinner time:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17202859_261540360960423_7625197776074378111_n.jpg?oh=c772772bf533d73dc05f20ab128f444a&oe=59AD4DC0)


What a stunning illustration! Now I want her figure more than ever!  :-*

I, too, see a lot of uses for these figures in Shadows of Brimstone. The game is crying out for a vampire faction.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 05, 2017, 11:13:11 PM
What a stunning illustration! Now I want her figure more than ever!  :-*

I, too, see a lot of uses for these figures in Shadows of Brimstone. The game is crying out for a vampire faction.

My dear Vampifan, I can't really imagine ANY game without a vampire faction!  lol

BTW: Do Shadows Over Brimstone have cowboys riding dinosaurs?

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 06, 2017, 02:02:54 AM
Not as such.  But there are dinosaurs.  And the Cowboy character class starts with a lasso...

You can buy giant slugs as mounts, so there's that. 

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 06, 2017, 02:12:59 AM
Not as such.  But there are dinosaurs.  And the Cowboy character class starts with a lasso...

You can buy giant slugs as mounts, so there's that. 

-Michael

Thanks for the info, Michael! But it seems that a slug would never be as fast as an old fashioned quarter-raptor!  :D  You know, dino riding and wrangling used to be a very nice sport those days!

(http://images.buyitsellit.com/2439198.jpg)
Studio McVey's Ruby
http://studiomcvey.highwire.com/product/smm15-ruby (http://studiomcvey.highwire.com/product/smm15-ruby)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 06, 2017, 07:43:15 AM
It would certainly be possible to have cowboys riding dinosaurs in Shadows of Brimstone, Edu. As Michael said, they do exist. Indeed, I have just bought a large Raptor for the game. It is an official monster, by the way.

I was very impressed with the figure of Ruby riding the dinosaur you showed, but when I clicked on the link I saw that it cost a whopping big £28.00 (OUCH!) and it was out of stock. Oh well, perhaps that's for the best - My wallet certainly thinks so!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 06, 2017, 11:17:43 AM
It would certainly be possible to have cowboys riding dinosaurs in Shadows of Brimstone, Edu. As Michael said, they do exist. Indeed, I have just bought a large Raptor for the game. It is an official monster, by the way.

I was very impressed with the figure of Ruby riding the dinosaur you showed, but when I clicked on the link I saw that it cost a whopping big £28.00 (OUCH!) and it was out of stock. Oh well, perhaps that's for the best - My wallet certainly thinks so!  :D

Vampifan, at this price I can easily visualize Ruby as one of the mounted ladies of the WW Cowboy Wars miniatures riding a GW ColdOne or even a dollar store velociraptor!  :D

BTW: looking forward to see your new dino in action!  ;)

EDIT: a GREAT example of dollar store dinosaur mounts:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F-Lu3BZJdkA/UJDT4x5o8sI/AAAAAAAABk0/gYtwZnI8kNE/s1600/IMG_0439.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s-XpiHJYuS0/UJDT7Rl307I/AAAAAAAABk8/LJmnRHkvR8w/s1600/IMG_0440.JPG)


From here: http://colonelotruth.blogspot.com.br/2012/10/ (http://colonelotruth.blogspot.com.br/2012/10/) ;)


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 06, 2017, 11:49:16 AM

I remember seeing somewhere in the www a long time ago pictures of a DEADLANDS game in which part of the gang of train robbers were riding velociraptors, and the rest of the crew were in a howdah on a big triceratops with a harpoon gun (with a heavy chain) to make the train derail! Simply AWESOME!  :o

And those Dracula's America vampires are perfect for DEADLANDS as well!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 06, 2017, 12:19:54 PM
Those guys look pretty cool!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 06, 2017, 01:08:12 PM
Vampifan, at this price I can easily visualize Ruby as one of the mounted ladies of the WW Cowboy Wars miniatures riding a GW ColdOne or even a dollar store velociraptor!  :D

BTW: looking forward to see your new dino in action!   ;)

Those dino mounts look great. I shall have to scour my local pound stores to find something similar.

The Shadows of Brimstone Raptor is destined to make an appearance in my JDMG campaign!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Elk101 on June 06, 2017, 06:13:54 PM
I like the look of the figures. Apparently there will be new stuff from Mark Copplestone and Mike Owen for this too.

I'm not sure I buy the concept of an, evil crazed creature intent on the destructive of civilization becoming president though.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 06, 2017, 08:56:51 PM
I like the look of the figures. Apparently there will be new stuff from Mark Copplestone and Mike Owen for this too.

I'm not sure I buy the concept of an, evil crazed creature intent on the destructive of civilization becoming president though.

To be honest, I'm far more interested in the figures than in the game.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Elk101 on June 06, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
To be honest, I'm far more interested in the figures than in the game.

Me too. I think I'd just work them into Fistful of Lead.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sterling Moose on June 06, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
Quote
To be honest, I'm far more interested in the figures than in the game.

Me three.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 06, 2017, 09:53:46 PM
To be honest, I'm far more interested in the figures than in the game.

+1 !!! Specially if they are Copplestone sculpts!  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 06, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
Those dino mounts look great. I shall have to scour my local pound stores to find something similar.

It's China-made stuff (Bee Me Toys), they are very cheap and come in a clear plastic tube called JURASSIC LAND. From the 12 dinos included, at least 6 can be used as mounts for 28mm figures!

(http://beeme.com.br/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/640x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/0/2012-1.jpg)(http://beeme.com.br/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/640x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/0/2012-2.jpg)

The Shadows of Brimstone Raptor is destined to make an appearance in my JDMG campaign!  8)

YESSSS!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 07, 2017, 07:44:56 AM
I think I'd have to be very lucky to find that particular set of dinosaurs here in the UK, but I'll keep on looking. In the meantime, a quick search on Amazon has revealed plenty of alternatives, so it looks like I'm well covered for cheap dinosaurs!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 07, 2017, 01:01:35 PM
I think I'd have to be very lucky to find that particular set of dinosaurs here in the UK, but I'll keep on looking. In the meantime, a quick search on Amazon has revealed plenty of alternatives, so it looks like I'm well covered for cheap dinosaurs!  :D

These China toys are strange: sometimes they are everywhere, sometimes they disappear from the shelves for a long time... So grab a bunch while you can! Looking forward to see your dino cowboys some day!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 07, 2017, 08:21:49 PM
These China toys are strange: sometimes they are everywhere, sometimes they disappear from the shelves for a long time... So grab a bunch while you can! Looking forward to see your dino cowboys some day!  lol

That's equally true over here. Still, I have options now.  :)

Cowboys on dinosaurs immediately has me thinking of the Flesh series from 2000 AD comic in which time travellers from the future plunder the dinosaurs for their meat in order to feed their starving population. It is just another story from this wonderful comic that I'd like to recreate with miniatures.  8)

Apologies for going off topic in this post.  :-I

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 07, 2017, 11:04:55 PM
That's equally true over here. Still, I have options now.  :)

Cowboys on dinosaurs immediately has me thinking of the Flesh series from 2000 AD comic in which time travellers from the future plunder the dinosaurs for their meat in order to feed their starving population. It is just another story from this wonderful comic that I'd like to recreate with miniatures.  8)

Apologies for going off topic in this post.  :-I

Vampifan, I will check out that FLESH comic, MANY THANKS for the info!  ;)

Still, I think that a miniature game set in the Weird West with vampires, werewolves and dinosaur cowboys would be AWESOME!  ;D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: 3 fingers on June 08, 2017, 05:24:53 AM
I think I'd have to be very lucky to find that particular set of dinosaurs here in the UK, but I'll keep on looking. In the meantime, a quick search on Amazon has revealed plenty of alternatives, so it looks like I'm well covered for cheap dinosaurs!  :D
There was some in a BM bargains store while back,I nearly bought some,but I was fully loaded on Twinkie bars an toffy pop biscuits  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 08, 2017, 07:57:23 AM
Vampifan, I will check out that FLESH comic, MANY THANKS for the info!  ;)

Still, I think that a miniature game set in the Weird West with vampires, werewolves and dinosaur cowboys would be AWESOME!  ;D

Here's a link for the Flesh graphic novel https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flesh-Dino-Files-2000-Ad/dp/190799226X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1496908389&sr=1-1&keywords=flesh+2000ad (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flesh-Dino-Files-2000-Ad/dp/190799226X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1496908389&sr=1-1&keywords=flesh+2000ad)

I totally agree about a Weird West game with vampires, werewolves and cowboys riding dinosaurs being AWESOME!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on June 08, 2017, 05:17:13 PM
it is like we have two competing threads goind. One about Dracula's America
and another about Cowboys riding dinosaurs.  o_o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Ballardian on June 08, 2017, 05:29:25 PM
 I like the minis, I'm curious as to how they'll bring the weird to old west skirmish.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 08, 2017, 07:06:39 PM
it is like we have two competing threads goind. One about Dracula's America
and another about Cowboys riding dinosaurs.  o_o

Not competing, but COMPLETING! It's all Weird West after all!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 08, 2017, 07:08:02 PM

Vampifan, thank you very much for the link, you rocks!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 08, 2017, 10:09:24 PM
Not competing, but COMPLETING! It's all Weird West after all!  lol

Good answer!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 08, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
Good answer!  :D

 ;)

Everybody knows that vampires, skinwalkers (werewolves) and dinosaur wranglers are a historical heritage of the Wild West, as shown in this 1969 documentary:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0i0RSpQEf8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0i0RSpQEf8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: YPU on June 09, 2017, 07:33:09 AM
;)

Everybody knows that vampires, skinwalkers (werewolves) and dinosaur wranglers are a historical heritage of the Wild West, as shown in this 1969 documentary:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0i0RSpQEf8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0i0RSpQEf8)


I didn't know this existed, I missed this in my life!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 09, 2017, 12:50:52 PM
That movie made a biiiiig impression on me as a kid.  It is still a hoot to watch.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on June 09, 2017, 01:49:05 PM
;)

Everybody knows that vampires, skinwalkers (werewolves) and dinosaur wranglers are a historical heritage of the Wild West, as shown in this 1969 documentary:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0i0RSpQEf8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0i0RSpQEf8)


Oh that looks really BAD... lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Cubs on June 09, 2017, 10:19:52 PM
One of my faves from my childhood, but then my idea of a perfect Saturday afternoon was watching fat middle aged men 'wrestling' on ITV sport, followed by a Ray Harryhausen film. Ideally it would be one of the Sinbad movies, but The Valley of Gwangi was an occasional treat that I always enjoyed as well.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: axabrax on June 10, 2017, 06:51:20 PM
Sorry but I'm a bit lost now: are they actually going to have dinosaur riding cowboys in this game, or is this a sidetrack? It goes a bit too far and is a bit too pulpy for me.  I prefer something Gothic but not quite so fantastical.  Like Bram Stoker meets the Wild West  or something along the lines of Abraham Lincoln Vampire Killer.  About as far as I would want to go...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 10, 2017, 07:03:18 PM
Sorry but I'm a bit lost now: are they actually going to have dinosaur riding cowboys in this game, or is this a sidetrack? It goes a bit too far and is a bit too pulpy for me.  I prefer something Gothic but not quite so fantastical.  Like Bram Stoker meets the Wild West  or something along the lines of Abraham Lincoln Vampire Killer.  About as far as I would want to go...

Dinosaur vampire riders, maybe?  ;D

Actually, we're just speculating about dinosaurs... Just because not only a Weird West or Western Gothic setting, but everything, is better with vampires (and werewolves) and dinosaurs!  ;)

Ainsty Castings Weird West Characters:

 
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Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on June 11, 2017, 12:19:37 AM
No, there are not Dino riding cowboys in Dracula's America.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 11, 2017, 01:45:45 AM
No, there are not Dino riding cowboys in Dracula's America.

As already been said: NO RULEBOOK IS PERFECT!  :'(
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 11, 2017, 11:11:04 AM
Hello, folks!

I'm Jonathan, the author/designer of Dracula's America- if there are any questions you have about the game then fire away and I'll do my best to answer them for you!

First off (and regrettably), there are no dinosaurs in the book- I think Phil over at Osprey would have had a fit if I'd tried to write them in!..

...It would however be very easy to come up with some rules for them in the game!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 11, 2017, 12:36:48 PM
Hello, folks!

I'm Jonathan, the author/designer of Dracula's America- if there are any questions you have about the game then fire away and I'll do my best to answer them for you!

First off (and regrettably), there are no dinosaurs in the book- I think Phil over at Osprey would have had a fit if I'd tried to write them in!..

...It would however be very easy to come up with some rules for them in the game!  :D

Hello Jonathan!

Welcome to LAF! It's always very nice when an author comes to talk to the future players of the game!

No cowboy riding dinosaurs? Seriously?

What about werewolves?

And... will we really see Dracula as the president of the USA? Have you read Newman's ANNO DRACULA?

Well, at least that vampire dancer miniature looks very nice!  ;)




Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 11, 2017, 02:43:34 PM
Thanks very much- I'm more than happy to talk about the game- I've had to keep my mouth shut for the last year, so it's good to be able to finally talk about it!

Werewolves (and indeed, Werebears!) are certainly in the book- I hope this makes up for the lack of dino-riders somewhat...

I read Anno Dracula many years ago (and own the Warhammer Genevieve Undead anthology, incidentally)- as I'm a hopeless fanboy of Westerns and all things weird, there are plenty of references to these genres scattered throughout the book, and I make no apologies for this!
In the chronology of Dracula's America, Dracula is already President, having taken power in the chaos following the Civil War (which dragged on a few extra years- there's an alternate timeline in the book).

By the way- despite the title, the game is not just focused on Vampires (Red Hand Coven) versus Vampire Hunters (Twilight Order)- there are 4 more Factions: the Native confederation known as the Skinwalker Tribes, the guerrilla fighters/Vodou practitioners of the Congregation, the diabolical Crossroads Cult using the Transcontinental Railroad to power their Great Ritual, and the Necromancers of the Dark Confederacy (plus their undead minions) trying to restore the South to it's former glory by any means!

Incidentally, you can also play the game as a 'straight-up' Western and leave out the weird stuff if you prefer.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 11, 2017, 02:56:44 PM

Thank you very much for the info, let's see how it comes!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 13, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
Cheers!
If you have any more questions about the game then just drop them below!..  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 15, 2017, 07:46:30 AM
Cheers!
If you have any more questions about the game then just drop them below!..  :)
Cheers!

How many minis a side is a standard game?
What size table do you recommend?
Is there a campaign system in the book?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 15, 2017, 02:43:42 PM
Thanks for the questions-

A standard game will be 3-10 models per side, with 6 being about average for a basic, one-off game.

The game plays well on a table between 2' x 2' and 4' x 4'; so 3' x 3' if you want to hedge your bets!

You bet there is a full campaign system- my favourite games have always been Mordheim, Necromunda and their ilk, so expect a similar kind of narrative-heavy system with models earning experience to increase their quality or learn new skills; plus lasting injuries and out-of-game Encounters (for which there are standard 'Old West' Encounters, and 'Supernatural' Encounters if you are playing a Campaign with the full rules!).

Any other questions, drop them below and I'll get back to you!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 15, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
Thanks for the questions-

A standard game will be 3-10 models per side, with 6 being about average for a basic, one-off game.

The game plays well on a table between 2' x 2' and 4' x 4'; so 3' x 3' if you want to hedge your bets!

You bet there is a full campaign system- my favourite games have always been Mordheim, Necromunda and their ilk, so expect a similar kind of narrative-heavy system with models earning experience to increase their quality or learn new skills; plus lasting injuries and out-of-game Encounters (for which there are standard 'Old West' Encounters, and 'Supernatural' Encounters if you are playing a Campaign with the full rules!).

Any other questions, drop them below and I'll get back to you!
Cool thanks
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on June 15, 2017, 03:32:08 PM
So can you provide any info/hints on the actual game mechanics?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Manchu on June 15, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Why hello there Fenrir.

When it comes to the setting, do people generally know that President Dracula is a vampire? Are vampires pretty common in society, restricted to a class of Dracula's devoted lackeys, or a secret underclass?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 16, 2017, 06:35:03 AM
@Mellis1644: Sure!..

The game is designed for between 2 and 8 individual players at one time.

It uses 6, 8 and 10-sided Dice, which equate to the 'Grit Rank' or skill-level of the models- a Novice uses D6s, while a Hero rolls D10s. In-game Tests are made by rolling a 'pool' of the appropriate Dice, with each roll of 5+ being a Success- situational modifiers (such as for range, clever positioning of your shooters etc) add or subtract Dice from your initial pool.

Each player also has a Deck of ordinary playing cards- each Turn, you will draw a Hand of cards equal to half the models in your Posse, rounded up. These are used to determine the initiative sequence, with higher value cards going first and black cards trumping red cards. Careful management of and planning how to use your cards- as well as your ability to read your opponent!- can make a big difference to the outcome of the Turn!
When you win initiative, you can either Activate one model for two Actions, or two models for one Action apiece. So you have a choice of whether to do more things with fewer models (thus leaving some of your Posse inactive for the Turn), or fewer things with more models...

Hope that was useful- keep 'em coming!
J.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 16, 2017, 06:59:39 AM
@Manchu:
There is a timeline in the book that lays out events leading from 1841 (when Dracula first arrives in America) up to the 'present day' of 1875. Depending when you want to set your games, Dracula's true nature will either be hidden from the general populace (the time leading up to and during the Civil War, which incidentally drags on until 1869) or common knowledge (pretty much 1870 onwards; with the country in such a ruinous state, nobody is in much of a position to do anything about it!)... Vampires will therefore either be covert infiltrators of society at large, or ruthless enforcers backed up by the conscripted/brainwashed Union Army- depending on the period in which you set your games!

As an aside, Vampires in SOTW have a defined 'life-cycle' of sorts- you have the centuries-old, cultured and influential Broodsires (most likely fresh from Europe) who set-up shop in an area and start 'recruiting' a Brood of new Vampires from the local populace. These Fledglings have little control over their animalistic instincts, but over time (and if they survive!) they gradually regain their intellect and become Broodkin- Vampiric 'foot-soldiers' if you will.
There is also a final stage of Vampirism- the eldest of Broodsires eventually find their physical and mental faculties slowly erode to a primal state. These 'Ancients' are hulking, bat-winged monstrosities little more intelligent than a Fledgling, feared and pitied even by their own kind- why Dracula himself has not devolved in this way remains a mystery...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Davies on June 16, 2017, 06:28:11 PM
Well, sounds good, better than I expected. Thank you for share new information with us. You are really fuelling the hype here!

The setting is what intrigues me most. At first, the game sounds too much similar to IHMN Gothic, but it seems that a rich setting could give it a new perspective. Different game mechanics also helps... :D

The only thing I'm going to lament in the setting is the assassination of Lincoln. The Ainsty Casting miniature is shouting to be part of this game. Or could he be used during the war period?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 16, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Happy to exceed your expectations!  ;) I have no idea whether I'll get another chance to have another set of rules published (though that's the dream!), so SOTW is definitely my 'baby'- I've tried my best to make a fun and interesting game that ticks all my particular boxes as a gamer- hopefully it will find it's way into the hands of like-minded folks!

Narrative is extremely important to me, so I started with the setting first and wrote the game mechanics around that so that everything should work as you'd imagine it (or at least, in my own fevered imagination!)- so vampires can recover damage by drinking the blood of innocent bystanders, Skinwalkers in bear form have a chance of crushing you in a bear-hug, a Chupacabra will skulk towards the closest unconscious model, and a Wendigo becomes frenzied when they scent fresh blood- and so on...
Obviously it wasn't possible to fit all of the background in the book, but if folks are interested I'll post little 'bonus' scraps of lore here as time goes by!

As for poor old Lincoln... Well that Ainsty model is very nice indeed, so feel free to come up with your own Scenarios set during the Civil War- or maybe the ex-President was brought back by a Houngan of the Congregation to carry on the good fight? Perhaps he awoke as a vampire and now seeks revenge on the rest of the undead? Maybe reports of his death were just greatly exaggerated?! I've left many parts of the background intentionally loose, so people can take the ball and run with it down whatever dark alleys they want!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 16, 2017, 09:53:22 PM
... so vampires can recover damage by drinking the blood of innocent bystanders, Skinwalkers in bear form have a chance of crushing you in a bear-hug, a Chupacabra will skulk towards the closest unconscious model, and a Wendigo becomes frenzied when they scent fresh blood- and so on...

Sounds promising!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: SotF on June 16, 2017, 11:21:56 PM
@Manchu:
There is a timeline in the book that lays out events leading from 1841 (when Dracula first arrives in America) up to the 'present day' of 1875. Depending when you want to set your games, Dracula's true nature will either be hidden from the general populace (the time leading up to and during the Civil War, which incidentally drags on until 1869) or common knowledge (pretty much 1870 onwards; with the country in such a ruinous state, nobody is in much of a position to do anything about it!)... Vampires will therefore either be covert infiltrators of society at large, or ruthless enforcers backed up by the conscripted/brainwashed Union Army- depending on the period in which you set your games!

As an aside, Vampires in SOTW have a defined 'life-cycle' of sorts- you have the centuries-old, cultured and influential Broodsires (most likely fresh from Europe) who set-up shop in an area and start 'recruiting' a Brood of new Vampires from the local populace. These Fledglings have little control over their animalistic instincts, but over time (and if they survive!) they gradually regain their intellect and become Broodkin- Vampiric 'foot-soldiers' if you will.
There is also a final stage of Vampirism- the eldest of Broodsires eventually find their physical and mental faculties slowly erode to a primal state. These 'Ancients' are hulking, bat-winged monstrosities little more intelligent than a Fledgling, feared and pitied even by their own kind- why Dracula himself has not devolved in this way remains a mystery...

Kind of curious, but does the Vampire of Washington myth play into it at all?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Davies on June 16, 2017, 11:45:07 PM
Quote
Skinwalkers in bear form have a chance of crushing you in a bear-hug, a Chupacabra will skulk towards the closest unconscious model, and a Wendigo becomes frenzied when they scent fresh blood- and so on...

Bear-men? Chupacabras? Wendigos? I'm definitively in!!

You wrote about creating our own scenarios. Do you provide some guidelines to create our own characters? Could I use a...let's see... a Navajo vampire hunter war party lead by a bison-man, and create profiles for them? At least for me, this is what I usually search in a game: a rules system robust enough to allow players to customize it without loosing playability.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 17, 2017, 05:30:33 AM
If possible could you elaborate on how you put your posse together?

The mix of heroes and henchmen and possible supernatural creatures?

Also could you tells us what a typical posse for each faction would look like in your opinion?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 17, 2017, 06:09:47 AM
@Manchu: You got me there- I'm ashamed to admit that I never came across that particular myth when writing the book, but it sounds like a good fit for SOTW! Care to point me in the right direction?

@Davies: A good question- and one which may be contentious for some folks. SOTW doesn't actually use 'profiles' like other games. Instead, it uses the concept of Grit to determine a model's general skill-level- my reasoning behind this is that the majority of models in the game are humans (or humanoids!). Profiles for Strength, Agility etc existed in an earlier iteration of the game, until I realised that 95% of the time I was just repeating the same stats over and over again! The real customisation comes in the various Skills available- so if you want a sharpshooter-type character you give him Grit D8 or D10 and a rifle, then the Hawkeye and Trick-Shooter Skills (there are 18 Skills in all, summarised in the quick-reference section at the back of the book).

So for your Navajo vampire hunters you could affiliate them to the Skinwalker Tribes Faction, make your Boss a Skinwalker (using the Bear-Form rules to represent his 'Bison-Form'- think of the 'bear-hug' rule as him goring a foe with his horns and/or hooves!) with the Bull-Rush and Tough Skills, back him up with a Shaman with the Warding Circle, Banish and Bless Arcane Powers, and then take some warriors with Silver Bullets (or arrows, if you prefer!) in their ranged weapons!

Of course going all-out and building a Posse of Heroes, all with Grit D10 and tooled-up with the best gear and Skills means you are going to have very few models- this translates to less cards in your Hand each Turn which in turn cuts down on your tactical options during play!
Hopefully you will see that this system is flexible enough to create whatever character you want without sacrificing balance too much, since everybody starts Posse creation on a fairly level playing field and have the same choices available to them when customising models...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 17, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Do you provide some guidelines to create our own characters? Could I use a...let's see... a Navajo vampire hunter war party lead by a bison-man, and create profiles for them?

Navajo vampire hunters... from the seemingly dead Chaos in Cochise County:

(http://i.imgur.com/i6tIzrt.jpg)

 ;)


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Shookerdo on June 17, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but what is the win objective for the game? Is it a straight up skirmish or is the a common goal (like treasure hunting on Frostgrave)?

I already have a lot of ideas for terrian because I think the theme is awesome but I need more game play details to really sell me.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 18, 2017, 02:55:26 AM
I kinda like those Chaos in Cochise County miniatures, esp. the one on the left.  Maybe they will see the light of day at some point.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 18, 2017, 03:48:37 AM
I kinda like those Chaos in Cochise County miniatures, esp. the one on the left.  Maybe they will see the light of day at some point.

-Michael

Fingers crossed!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 18, 2017, 05:13:25 AM
@Saucy Jack: There are actually quite a few ways to build your Posses, depending on the type of game you are playing!

For one-off games, you have two ways of building a Posse- a basic WYSIWYG-driven system that is great for learning the rules and playing quick friendly games (it's probably my personal favourite way to play!); and a more granular 'points' (dollar)-based system that allows you to 'list build' and fine-tune your models and equipment.

In Campaigns, everybody starts with the same basic Posse of a Veteran Boss and 5 Novices (though obviously your choice of Faction will tweak this basic set-up), plus 22 dollars to spend on equipping them- you will find that after even one game the Posses will start to diverge due to Skills and Injuries...

In general though, your Posse will be made up primarily of humans of one sort or another (be they die-hard Confederate guerrillas, cultists, vampire thralls or new recruits to the Order) and will have a single Boss (the model with the best Grit) to lead it and around 5-9 other models to make up the remainder. If you are using the full-on Supernatural rules and affiliate your Posse to a Faction, you will also gain certain Faction Benefits (such as the ability to upgrade 2 models to Broodkin vampires in the Red Hand Coven, or make your Boss a Master Necromancer and field 2-4 Revenants in the Dark Confederacy).

...And that's not even mentioning the various Hired-Guns and Summoned Creatures available...

Probably not the most precise answer to your questions I'm afraid, but there is a lot of variety to cover!  o_o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 18, 2017, 05:31:15 AM
@Shookerdoo:
There are 7 Scenarios in the book, each with different win-conditions (though shooting at the enemy until they fall over is always a safe bet!). So I guess you could say it is a straight-up Skirmish- though loot also plays quite a big role- you will often be hunting for loot, escaping the Table with loot, and so-on.
Some Scenarios also use escalating reinforcements, some have you securing important terrain elements and some have your Bosses facing-off in the centre of the Table!
By their nature they are designed to work well in multiplayer (ie, with 3-8 competing Posses) situations- however I have plans for more specific Scenarios such as stagecoach robberies, jail-breaks and so-on that are better suited to 2 players!

By the way, terrain is very important- especially tactically interesting, multi-level stuff such as buildings to give good vantage points and windows to crash through! To give an example, in one game I had a vampire leap across an alley (narrowly avoiding a shot from an enemy on Lookout in the process), smash through the window of the building opposite and straight into combat with an enemy- he promptly won the Fight and shoved his unfortunate victim out the window and down into the street below!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 18, 2017, 06:27:08 AM

Sounds GREAT!  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 18, 2017, 09:58:08 PM
Thank you for answering my questions. It really is great to have this "hotline" to you, so I have a few more questions:

1) in terms of terrain is the setting for all of the US or a particular state/area?

2) ... and is a typical gaming board for the game a wild west boomtown?

3) how much is there in the rules about mounted figures?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 19, 2017, 05:26:43 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: Thank you kindly!

@Saucy Jack: No problem; SOTW is my 'baby' so even after a year and a bit I'm more than happy to talk about it at length! As for your questions...

1) The setting covers all of the US in a general sort of way- however (and though I obviously can't say too much right now!), supplements will 'focus-in' on specific areas; beginning with the Indian Territory (including Deadwood City and the Black Hills) in Hunting Grounds...

2) I guess you could say that a town (either boom or ghost!) is the 'standard' board set-up, simply because it gives the most options for dynamic movement. Much of the play-testing was done on a town board with 4ground/Sarissa buildings, though we've played it on a badlands ranch and a New England forest... And I have a dream of making a Mississippi River board complete with docked paddle-steamer!

3) Mounted figures are covered in the game, with rules for mounting (including leaping into the saddle from above!), dismounting (including being dragged from the saddle by your enemy in combat) and carrying a passenger- there are also a couple of different horse 'types' available, with a third in the pipeline... Expect a new set of Riding Skills in Hunting Grounds as well- you'll be able to make leaping mounts/dismounts, whistle for your horse and so-on...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 19, 2017, 05:55:43 AM
Mounted figures are covered in the game, with rules for mounting (including leaping into the saddle from above!), dismounting (including being dragged from the saddle by your enemy in combat) and carrying a passenger- there are also a couple of different horse 'types' available, with a third in the pipeline... Expect a new set of Riding Skills in Hunting Grounds as well- you'll be able to make leaping mounts/dismounts, whistle for your horse and so-on...

It seems that you've managed to capture some of the classic Western Tropes very well! Maybe a version of this ruleset without the Gothic Horror elements would sell very well to Old West gamers! ;)

I guess you could say that a town (either boom or ghost!) is the 'standard' board set-up, simply because it gives the most options for dynamic movement.

Mate, everybody needs an old-fashioned Western Town!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 19, 2017, 06:10:35 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: Actually, the book is split into 3 sections- the Rules, Campaigns and Dracula's America. I intentionally wanted the rules to be modular, so if you wanted to play a straight-up Old West game then it's entirely possible (there's even a full set of Campaign Encounters for this so you can play a full Old West Campaign without any of the weirdness)! All the Arcane Powers, Supernatural Creatures and Factions, Silver Bullets, weird Encounters etc are in the Dracula's America section, and can be 'plugged-in' to your games as you wish.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 19, 2017, 06:57:07 AM
Once again thanks.

What is the Hunting Grounds you refer to - a supplement book or....
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 19, 2017, 01:48:50 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: Actually, the book is split into 3 sections- the Rules, Campaigns and Dracula's America. I intentionally wanted the rules to be modular, so if you wanted to play a straight-up Old West game then it's entirely possible (there's even a full set of Campaign Encounters for this so you can play a full Old West Campaign without any of the weirdness)! All the Arcane Powers, Supernatural Creatures and Factions, Silver Bullets, weird Encounters etc are in the Dracula's America section, and can be 'plugged-in' to your games as you wish.

Very clever!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 19, 2017, 02:29:01 PM
@Saucy Jack: Yeah, Hunting Grounds will be the first supplement for Dracula's America! All being well, this will ultimately be a 'trilogy' of books...

@Dinohunterpoa: Cheers- I have my moments every now and then!..  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Grimjack on June 19, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
And one thing that I can say - it's a quick, fun set of rules, with some great miniatures to come from North Star this year.

But, I want Jonah Hex and Django, so get them sorted, Mr. Haythornthwaite!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Manchu on June 19, 2017, 04:28:46 PM
Have my orders in for the core and supplement. I would love to see some better pics of the upcoming models. I have not been able to find many good pics of them from Salute. Anyone seen any?

Here is the best (and only) one I have found

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1mEcSqSSq2o/WQSg3nnnNiI/AAAAAAAAK1A/EnxIfFLOkcY7HzQB55H8GR1X3TXRtZ_3wCKgB/s1600/IMG_20170422_113543077.jpg)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 19, 2017, 05:47:56 PM
(https://i1.wp.com/www.wargamesillustrated.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/dRACULAS.jpg?resize=678%2C381)

For subscribers of Wargames Illustrated: http://www.wargamesillustrated.net/draculas-america-shadows-of-the-west/ (http://www.wargamesillustrated.net/draculas-america-shadows-of-the-west/)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nPCrZhLSp8A/WTu5F7uFjmI/AAAAAAABNPU/SpJs735Sn1A6FYGOYhluk1IsVzDQF7HDwCLcB/s640/18882034_301426443638481_3048304596663977141_n.jpg)
(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Draculas-America.jpg)
 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 19, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Many thanks for sharing those pictures, mate.  :D
I feel this is a game I could really get into. I'm liking all that I've seen and read so far.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 19, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
Many thanks for sharing those pictures, mate.  :D
I feel this is a game I could really get into. I'm liking all that I've seen and read so far.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Dear Vampifan, you've just stolen my words, mate!  lol 

A mix of Gothic Horror and Old/Weird West sounds very appealing to me, and since I've grown with a big 40mm scale Old West sandbox in the basement, I am a strong believer that everyone must have his own old-fashioned western town at some point of life! :D 

I am just waiting to see the minis to figure out their scale in order to start planning my town's buildings!  ;) 

Concerning Dracula's America, from what the author himself kindly revealed in advance in this thread, I think that we'll have a very nice set of tools to have great gothic western adventures in the not so far future!  :) 

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 19, 2017, 09:37:35 PM
Dear Vampifan, you've just stolen my words, mate!  lol 

A mix of Gothic Horror and Old/Weird West sounds very appealing to me, and since I've grown with a big 40mm scale Old West sandbox in the basement, I am a strong believer that everyone must have his own old-fashioned western town at some point of life! :D 

I am just waiting to see the minis to figure out their scale in order to start planning my town's buildings!  ;) 

Concerning Dracula's America, from what the author himself kindly revealed in advance in this thread, I think that we'll have a very nice set of tools to have great gothic western adventures in the not so far future!  :) 

Dinohunterpoa We are very much in agreement here. Even if the rules aren't up to scratch (although I suspect that won't be the case), I can still use the figures with my THW High Moon and Shadows of Brimstone rules.

Regarding your comment that everyone should have their old fashioned Western town, I totally agree. I already have one, but it's in 54mm scale, which takes up far too much space to use at home. When I gamed at my local wargaming club, my Wild West buildings could easily fill a full-sized table tennis table! Now, I'm slowly building up a collection of 28mm scale buildings. I'm mainly concentrating on those produced by 4Ground, simply because they are the best.  8)

I am also looking forward to being able to purchase the miniatures for this game, although my wallet would disagree!  :D

And just as importantly, I hope we don't have too long to wait for the rules to be released. Exciting times, pardner!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 20, 2017, 01:25:02 AM
Vampifan, I totally agree with you!  lol

Dracula's America is due this August, so I hope! I really liked some of the things the author kindly brought up in this thread - his action is a very nice start for any ruleset IMHO!  ;)  

A 54mm western town must be such a beauty! :o  My dad had lots of western plastic minis and scenery in 40mm, I remember we had a blast at least once a month with lots of people of all ages around that very big (3m X 1,5m) sandbox for the whole afternoon! :D

What 28mm minis do you use for your western games? Do you have any AAR of them? I liked that NorthStar vampire dancer mini so much that I will look for miniatures in the same scale!  :-* I would like to use WestWind's Cowboy Wars minis for starters, because I really like their approach to have both an on foot and a mounted mini for the same character! (Knuckeduster have a set of cowboys characters with on foot and mounted minis, but they are in 32mm) (I mildly remember reaching high insanity levels when making mounted models for a large number of my Fantasy/Horror characters years ago! ;D )

My next project is almost certain to be a Gothic Western town with enough figures for townsfolk (for RPG adventures) and different factions for fast skirmish multiplayer games; lets see what happens...  ;D  I've seen 4 Ground buildings in the web and they look very nice indeed; the same with Battle Flag's Blackwater Gulch series. But since the import fees to my country are outrageous, I will have to wait for my next trip abroad (in mid 2018) to get them! In the meanwhile, I intend to just scratchbuild a fantasy town with a mix of western and gothic horror architecture (Malifaux, anyone?  lol)...

And as you've said: Exciting times, pardner!  :D

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 20, 2017, 05:05:29 AM
Thanks everybody for your comments- it's very encouraging and terrifying all at once, as the burden of expectation begins to settle on me in the run-up to August!..  ;)
If real-life allows, I'm hoping to visit a couple of shows with the North Star chaps and run some demos; starting with Partizan in August.

@Grimjack: I'm on it!  :D Thanks for the comments; hope it all went well at the Expo.

@Dinohunterpoa: The official miniatures are 'standard' 28mm scale, and having seen them 'in the pewter' so to speak they are very nice- my personal collection of Old West minis are currently all 32mm from Black Scorpion, but I will be starting a new collection of Dracula's America models as soon as I get my hands on them (beginning with the Dark Confederacy- those Confederate Revenants are probably my favourite models in the range so far!

@Vampifan: As I'm a fan of both Westerns and Horror, I've first and foremost tried to write a game that other fans of one or both genres will also get a kick out of- if you have any other questions about Dracula's America, feel free to drop them below and I'll do my best to answer...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 20, 2017, 06:39:37 AM

Fenrir, once again THANK YOU VERY MUCH for answering our questions! I'm glad the minis are true classical 28mm, so they will go well along Artizan, Dixon, WestWind, Foundry, Copplestone and others! A real clever decision IMHO! 8)

Looking forward to see the rulebook and the minis! :)

Wish you and the NorthStar/Osprey guys all the best!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 20, 2017, 09:18:52 AM
What 28mm minis do you use for your western games? Do you have any AAR of them? I liked that NorthStar vampire dancer mini so much that I will look for miniatures in the same scale!  :-*

My next project is almost certain to be a Gothic Western town with enough figures for townsfolk (for RPG adventures) and different factions for fast skirmish multiplayer games; lets see what happens...  ;D  I've seen 4 Ground buildings in the web and they look very nice indeed; the same with Battle Flag's Blackwater Gulch series. But since the import fees to my country are outrageous, I will have to wait for my next trip abroad (in mid 2018) to get them! In the meanwhile, I intend to just scratchbuild a fantasy town with a mix of western and gothic horror architecture (Malifaux, anyone?  lol)...

And as you've said: Exciting times, pardner!  :D

 ;)

I use a wide range of figures for my Wild West games and I'm quite happy to mix scales from 25mm up to 32mm, because in real life people come in all shapes and sizes. Most of my Wild West figures come from Black Scorpion and Wargames Foundry, but I've been collecting since the late 1970's so there some really obscure out of production figures that I own.  8)

I don't yet have an AAR posted on my blog yet but I do have a whole section dedicated to the Wild and Weird West stuff I collect. Here's a link to it - http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/weird-and-wild-west.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/weird-and-wild-west.html)
I still have loads to add to it as I'm only just starting out on this project.  8)

Like you, this will probably be my next BIG project. :)

I, too, have fallen in love with the North Star vampire female dancer. She's at the top of my shopping list!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I wish you all the best of luck with your own Western town build.  8)
It does suck that import fees can be so prohibitive. I've encountered similar problems with stuff I've wanted from America.  :-[
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 20, 2017, 11:04:15 AM
I use a wide range of figures for my Wild West games and I'm quite happy to mix scales from 25mm up to 32mm, because in real life people come in all shapes and sizes.

You're right! I think it's just the matter of choosing carefully. No matter the scale of the majority of the citizens, no town of mine will be complete without Reaper's Ellen Stone, for example! :D 

I don't yet have an AAR posted on my blog yet but I do have a whole section dedicated to the Wild and Weird West stuff I collect. Here's a link to it - http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/weird-and-wild-west.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/weird-and-wild-west.html)
I still have loads to add to it as I'm only just starting out on this project.  8)

Thanks for the link, mate! The Doves are PRICELESS!  :-* And now I know that I really, really need a Chinese laundry, a Tong gang and a wandering young Shaolin monk in search of his half-brother, OMG! :o :D

Like you, this will probably be my next BIG project. :)

As some LAFer recently said: "Old West is the new Pirates!"  lol

I, too, have fallen in love with the North Star vampire female dancer. She's at the top of my shopping list!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Hope she arrives with some other vixen friends!  :-*

I wish you all the best of luck with your own Western town build.  8)
It does suck that import fees can be so prohibitive. I've encountered similar problems with stuff I've wanted from America.  :-[

Thanks, mate! I wish you all the same!  :D  And due to that damn import fees, I will certainly be obliged to travel to UK next year!  ;)
(in the meanwhile, I've just bought a ton of wooden coffee stirrers!)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: The_Beast on June 20, 2017, 06:42:47 PM
Wait, Gothic in the wild west? Hasn't everybody?  lol

Of course, our issues were with real loup garou, and not native skinwalkers.

Interestingly, they were auto-moved, and there were three of us fighting them AND each other.

Doug

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 20, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
You're right! I think it's just the matter of choosing carefully. No matter the scale of the majority of the citizens, no town of mine will be complete without Reaper's Ellen Stone, for example! :D 

Ellen Stone is such a great figure and is certainly one of my favourites as well!  :-*

Thanks for the link, mate! The Doves are PRICELESS!  :-* And now I know that I really, really need a Chinese laundry, a Tong gang and a wandering young Shaolin monk in search of his half-brother, OMG! :o :D

I thought you'd appreciate that link, Edu. I have a great Kwai Chang Caine figure that I converted in 54mm scale but I've never been able to find a suitable 28mm scale version of him.  :'(

As some LAFer recently said: "Old West is the new Pirates!"  lol

Wise man!  :D

Hope she arrives with some other vixen friends!  :-*

Oh, yes! Absolutely!  :-*

Thanks, mate! I wish you all the same!  :D  And due to that damn import fees, I will certainly be obliged to travel to UK next year!  ;)
(in the meanwhile, I've just bought a ton of wooden coffee stirrers!)

You can never have too many wooden coffee stirrers! Them and matchsticks are so useful for scratchbuilding projects and conversions.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 20, 2017, 11:14:27 PM
I have a great Kwai Chang Caine figure that I converted in 54mm scale but I've never been able to find a suitable 28mm scale version of him.  :'(

When I was a kid aeons ago I used to have these two 54mm versions of Caine: as a Shaolin student and as a wanderer in the Old West:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D4d9PTkUZlM/S7RwB-9V-bI/AAAAAAAAFS0/zoqzrGairQE/s320/26_1_30.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D4d9PTkUZlM/S7RwBk4BrWI/AAAAAAAAFSs/zP3FHN3B1VM/s320/26_1_31.jpg[img])[/img]

They were manufactured in Brazil by Gulliver, but I think they were originally Casablanca/Elastolin sculpts.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D4d9PTkUZlM/S7Rv1ByaLBI/AAAAAAAAFSk/uDZwkO7HdOc/s320/26_1_32.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D4d9PTkUZlM/S7Rv01_0F_I/AAAAAAAAFSc/aJizzKj6qpU/s320/26_1_33.jpg)


So begins the search for a suitable Caine in 28mm! :o

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/23/24/93/232493ccebdc64a4f3450ad6932fc813.jpg)

EDIT> I remember when Caine and his Kung Fu student Tarzan - yes, the King of the Jungle - took an entire posse of bad guys in Gunsmoke Town in an epic fight that took almost an entire afternoon... but this is another story!  lol

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 21, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
Hey, they're really cool figures! Very nice indeed, and quite obviously "Grasshopper".  8)

But, yes, the search continues.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 11:30:10 AM
Hey, they're really cool figures! Very nice indeed, and quite obviously "Grasshopper".  8)

But, yes, the search continues.  :)

We had vampires and werewolves in the "Wild Wild West" TV series (1965-69) and Jack the Ripper and Skinwalkers in "Cimarron Strip" (1967-68), so a wanderer Shaolin monk in the Old West hunting vampires is definitely in the order of day for Dracula's America!  ;)

And maybe fighting Ninja Vampire River Pirates in the Mississipi, of course, inspired by George R. R. Martin’s "Fevre Dream"!  :D

  
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 21, 2017, 12:28:47 PM
And maybe fighting Ninja Vampire River Pirates in the Mississipi, of course, inspired by George R. R. Martin’s "Fevre Dream"!  :D

It's been quite a while since I read "Fevre Dream" but heck yes, it would be a great fit for Dracula's America.   8)

So many good ideas are coming out for this game. Fenrir, just take my money now!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malamute on June 21, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
We had vampires and werewolves in the "Wild Wild West" TV series (1965-69) and Jack the Ripper and Skinwalkers in "Cimarron Strip" (1967-68), so a wanderer Shaolin monk in the Old West hunting vampires is definitely in the order of day for Dracula's America!  ;)



  

Two of my favourite genres: The Old West and Gothic Horror. ;D

 But I can't get my head around the two merging into one. I just don't get the Weird West idea. lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 12:36:37 PM
It's been quite a while since I read "Fevre Dream" but heck yes, it would be a great fit for Dracula's America.   8)

Ok, now I OFFICIALLY need a wandering Shaolin monk AND a Mississippi River Boat! NOW!  :o

So many good ideas are coming out for this game. Fenrir, just take my money now!  :D

+1 !!!  lol


And maybe, just maybe... a big stagemcoach with steam horses... with enough roof space for cinematic fistfights... just maybe!  ;D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 12:41:12 PM
Two of my favourite genres: The Old West and Gothic Horror. ;D

 But I can't get my head around the two merging into one. I just don't get the Weird West idea. lol

Malamute, it has been said that Gothic Western is just a thing of moving the original horror setting across the Atlantic... and Weird West - with those steam-horse powered stagecoaches - are just an earthly setting of Martian VSF!  :D  

EDIT> OMG, do they have Vampires on Mars!?  :o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 21, 2017, 12:52:36 PM
They sure do.  Ask anybody who has been there.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 12:54:28 PM
They sure do.  Ask anybody who has been there.

OMG, they are EVERYWHERE these days!!!  :o

EDIT> Ok, now I am just adding a TRIP TO MARS in my Dracula's America shopping list... ;D  
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on June 21, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Must admit to thinking I ought get some use of Wild West Exodus figs with these rules as well. We all need a some steampunk horror wild west action once in a while.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
Must admit to thinking I ought get some use of Wild West Exodus figs with these rules as well. We all need a some steampunk horror wild west action once in a while.

PERFECTLY SAID!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malamute on June 21, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
Malamute, it has been said that Gothic Western is just a thing of moving the original horror setting across the Atlantic... and Weird West - with those steam-horse powered stagecoaches - are just an earthly setting of Martian VSF!  :D  

EDIT> OMG, do they have Vampires on Mars!?  :o

 lol

I still don't get it lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 01:36:36 PM
lol

I still don't get it lol

It's of the human nature to deny the existence of the Children of the Night...  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 21, 2017, 01:50:44 PM
EDIT> OMG, do they have Vampires on Mars!?  :o

Vampirella has fought alongside Dejah Thoris in some of the comics by Dynamite, so I'd say, why not? Plus, you can do whatever you want in your own campaign. The beauty of our hobby is that you can play any "what if" scenario.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 02:06:06 PM
Vampirella has fought alongside Dejah Thoris in some of the comics by Dynamite, so I'd say, why not? Plus, you can do whatever you want in your own campaign. The beauty of our hobby is that you can play any "what if" scenario.  :D

Vampi and Dejah Thoris together? I MUST GET THAT COMIC!!! Vampifan, another BIG THANK YOU for the info! I got the Dejah Thoris series from Dynamite, IMHO they are only nice for... Dejah Thoris! (but this is more than enough for me, you know...)  :-*

I've always saw the VSF/Space 1889 Mars and "classical" Barsoom as two separate planes of existence... So maybe it's time to get everything together... What about a Vampire Princess of Mars?! With gunslingers and dinosaur-riding cowboys? OMG!!!:D

The beauty of our hobby is that you can play any "what if" scenario.  :D

EXACTLY!!!  ;)

I always wondered that 1889 human settlers in Mars would look like settlers of the Wild West (maybe with steam-powered farm machinery)... Now just add vampires... and we have Dracula's America in Space ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 02:17:37 PM
Vampirella has fought alongside Dejah Thoris in some of the comics by Dynamite...

Was that in "Swords of Sorrow"? I have the complete series in cbr (along a ton of other titles I will never ever will have time to read), but never read it yet! Maybe just waiting for the planned movie with Gail Simone's script, you know...  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Manchu on June 21, 2017, 02:25:07 PM
Author interview!

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/draculas-america-shadows-of-west.html
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
Author interview!

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/draculas-america-shadows-of-west.html

Great find, Manchu, thank very much for sharing!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: axabrax on June 21, 2017, 02:35:50 PM
I can't keep track of the actual discussion of Dracula's America in this thread.  Any chance that some of the sideline discussions could be moved to a new thread? I'm really interested in the game and not so much in the other stuff. Maybe I just have ADD  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
I can't keep track of the actual discussion of Dracula's America in this thread.  Any chance that some of the sideline discussions could be moved to a new thread? I'm really interested in the game and not so much in the other stuff. Maybe I just have ADD  ;)

What sideline discussions?  :o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
From Amazon:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51gCz7ejTBL._SX391_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

Dracula's America: Shadows of the West: Hunting Grounds

This supplement for Dracula's America: Shadows of the West contains a host of new rules and material and offers something for every player.

- Two New Factions: The Forsaken, ragged survivors of the 7th Cavalry tormented by a bestial curse, and the White Dragon Tong, crimelords with an agenda as mysterious as the powers wielded by their enforcers.
- The Hunting Grounds: Scenarios and encounters that focus on this mythical realm and the power and threats found within it.
- Territory: Build and develop your headquarters, and exploit the benefits it offers, but beware your enemies taking the fight to your home turf.
- Outlaws, Mercenaries and Bounty Hunters: New campaign options, allowing you to turn to a life of crime, bring in wanted fugitives, or sell your gun to the highest bidder.
- New Monsters: The denizens of the Hunting Grounds, in all their terrifying glory.
- New Hired Guns: There's all kinds of folk willing to sell their skills, and these new Hired Guns offer a range of tactical options . . . if you can afford them.
- New Gear: Bring a Gatling Gun to a knife fight, or find out why you were always warned about misusing brimstone chalk and vials of ectoplasm.
- New Skills: Riding and Leadership skills give you new combat options and help your posse stay in the fight.


 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 21, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
Really looking forward to seeing more of the miniatures, as well.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 05:15:24 PM

Dracula's America hidden VSF connection?

Specially for the VSF fans (and occult investigators/conspiracy theorists alike): a comparison between a NASA Mars picture and the image on the ceiling of Vlad's Dracula chapel as portrayed in that famous 1992 Coppola's documentary:

 ;)
 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on June 21, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
The 7th cav as werewolves.
I like that!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 21, 2017, 06:16:27 PM
Was that in "Swords of Sorrow"? I have the complete series in cbr (along a ton of other titles I will never ever will have time to read), but never read it yet! Maybe just waiting for the planned movie with Gail Simone's script, you know...  lol

It certainly was. The graphic novel is a great buy.  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 06:33:27 PM
It certainly was. The graphic novel is a great buy.  8)

THANKS! I will put it on top of my "must do" reading list!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malamute on June 21, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
Dracula's America hidden VSF connection?

Specially for the VSF fans (and occult investigators/conspiracy theorists alike): a comparison between a NASA Mars picture and the image on the ceiling of Vlad's Dracula chapel as portrayed in that famous 1992 Coppola's documentary:

 ;)
 

  lol

You fool lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 21, 2017, 10:33:04 PM
  lol

You fool lol

Malamute, the images are UNQUESTIONABLE!!!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malamute on June 22, 2017, 07:16:19 AM
Ok Chaps, we've had some fun, but now this thread has drifted off topic. Can we reign it back to discussions about the forthcoming rules. ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Manchu on June 22, 2017, 08:12:35 AM
From the interview:

"Unlike some other Weird West settings, there is no 'Steampunk' or super-science here- just the terrifying power of the supernatural and a good pair of shooting irons (preferably loaded with silver bullets)!"

Very grateful! The supernatural elements are more than enough interesting without dragging gears'n'googles into the mix.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 22, 2017, 10:14:39 AM
Very much agree. I am a big fan of Deadlands but have always omitted the steampunk, as it seemed ludicrous
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sterling Moose on June 22, 2017, 11:16:15 AM
Sarissa'a latest offerings have so much potential:

http://www.sarissa-precision.com/index.aspx?pageid=1603369&category=2365906&Page=2
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Michi on June 22, 2017, 11:45:50 AM
Very much agree. I am a big fan of Deadlands but have always omitted the steampunk, as it seemed ludicrous

May I bring a certain musical inspiration to your attention, gentlemen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yywGI1H_oyM
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on June 22, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
So back to a rules question. :)

I see there are various forces in the book but is there a points system/some way for players to create 'somewhat balanced' (yes we all know the issues with such systems) figures/forces themselves?

It's fairly easy to create new ones in skirmish games but it helps if the author with all the play test knowledge etc provides guidance or a system for that.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 22, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
Ok Chaps, we've had some fun, but now this thread has drifted off topic. Can we reign it back to discussions about the forthcoming rules. ;)

 8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 22, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
You crazy kids!  ;)

@Mellis1644: There is indeed a 'somewhat balanced' system for creating a Posse- everything in the game has a dollar value, from weapons to gear to Skills. You and your opponent agree on a 'Dollar Limit' and build your force to that.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 22, 2017, 07:23:15 PM
You crazy kids!  ;)

@Mellis1644: There is indeed a 'somewhat balanced' system for creating a Posse- everything in the game has a dollar value, from weapons to gear to Skills. You and your opponent agree on a 'Dollar Limit' and build your force to that.

It makes sense to me!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Elk101 on June 22, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
I do like the sound of this and I'm also in favour of the decision to keep it purely Gothic Horror based rather than try and shoehorn in a bit of Steampunk here and there.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: goon3423 on June 22, 2017, 11:28:02 PM
Very much agree. I am a big fan of Deadlands but have always omitted the steampunk, as it seemed ludicrous
I always liked it at about that Wild Wild West level, the TV show not the awful awful movie. Fun but not too much. This will probably be my first Nickstarter but I must admit I'm looking forward to new minis more so than the rules.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 23, 2017, 12:11:25 AM
Same here, goon.  I will enjoy looking at the rulebook, but odds are not great that we will play (although, you never know).  But the figures can pretty much immediately be used in our Shadows of Brimstone games.

But it does sound like the rulebook will be fun to read through.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on June 23, 2017, 01:45:29 AM
You crazy kids!  ;)

@Mellis1644: There is indeed a 'somewhat balanced' system for creating a Posse- everything in the game has a dollar value, from weapons to gear to Skills. You and your opponent agree on a 'Dollar Limit' and build your force to that.

Sounds good.

With these style of things if people want silly steampunk weapons etc then it's easy enough for them to add it. But I must admit I prefer the magic/horror aspects than weird science.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 23, 2017, 02:47:46 AM
Fenrir/Jonathan, a quick question: who sculpts the miniatures? They are traditionally sculpted or done by digital means? They were designed from RU-MOR's great artwork of she used the painted minis as inspiration for her illustrations?

Thanks in advance!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 23, 2017, 05:42:23 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: The miniatures were sculpted by Mike Owen and Mark Copplestone- as far as I know, using traditional sculpting methods and based on RU-MOR's art!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Smith on June 23, 2017, 07:46:15 AM
Yup - Mike and Mark are both traditional sculptors, and worked directly from RU-MOR's art for some of them, and built out of it for others.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 23, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
Fenrir and Smith, thank you very much for your fast answers!

Glad to know the sculpts were put in (literally) very good hands, PERFECT!!!  ;)

Looking forward to get my own hands on them!  :D  

BTW - Once again: RU-MOR's artwork is simply AWESOME!  :-*  
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mac V on June 23, 2017, 02:12:13 PM
So you're saying the game can handle 8 players on a 4x4 board? What about larger boards?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 23, 2017, 04:17:15 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: Agreed- her artwork really brings the book to another level for me!

@Mac V: I'm sure you could play SOTW on a larger size board if you wanted; though to be honest I've not tried it myself- I'd definitely suggest increasing deployment zones to 12"x12" (or possibly larger) if you wanted to give it a go!..  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on June 24, 2017, 07:30:17 PM
Was just thinking, an expansion could feature the ''Bone Wars'' that is the rivalry between famous archaeologists Edward Drinker Cope and Othniel Charles Marsh to dig up new dinosaur/ancient fossils (pic related).

Instead of purely academic goals it'd be a race to find, dig up and resurrect the deadliest creatures.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Marine0846 on June 24, 2017, 11:46:53 PM
After reading this thread, love the idea.
Have a ton of Western stuff, so half way there.
Look forward to seeing more.
Thank you Fenrir for answering all the questions posted.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on June 25, 2017, 12:51:28 AM
I'm in! Is there room for creating your own themed groups?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on June 25, 2017, 06:16:07 AM
North Star has posted a lot of new pictures of the new minis for the game on their Facebook page.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Elk101 on June 25, 2017, 08:14:47 AM
North Star has posted a lot of new pictures of the new minis for the game on their Facebook page.

Not on Facebook myself but you can see the images if you click the links on Twitter on the main website page (not on Twitter either and they can still be viewed). Some pretty good stuff there.

There's a Southern gentleman demon,  raggedy looking Confederates,  zombie looking Confederates, a Southern gent, a range of Voodoo characters,  a cult leader, a native skinwalker, an angelic winged cowboy,  and a Pale Rider. They look very decent figures in the main.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 25, 2017, 01:13:52 PM
(https://www.facebook.com/northstarmilitaryfigures/photos/a.218637431498500.77933.218634441498799/1691022564259972/?type=3)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19400614_1690832197612342_1224945793949543197_o.jpg?oh=663aa71c159096ccbe4228f4eed56c4d&oe=59E4EB56)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19402082_1690831744279054_1742474080703985377_o.jpg?oh=25b5bc378ac0c32b29b7b899494c6523&oe=59CF939F)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19417464_1690831074279121_3634568319159521602_o.jpg?oh=d4bc0361fc686378ecc8704a3ed27df6&oe=59DCA010)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19237834_1690827257612836_94482924820749489_o.jpg?oh=d17c31c100254b842a2708160bdc9659&oe=59D5F6B0)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19238191_1690826817612880_696148640523570590_o.jpg?oh=4eea2e585d0875e709dea4a8c2ec21a2&oe=59D78910)

I did not see pictures attached to a couple of the posts.  These pictures are from Twitter.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 25, 2017, 02:58:12 PM
I like them all!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 25, 2017, 04:17:43 PM
A Southern gentleman referred by NorthStar in its Facebook as "a man of wealth and taste..."  :D

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19399519_1691022564259972_6520603497721170457_n.jpg?oh=247c3a3b63d6b3d146a72ec349075797&oe=59C5EE87)


More Dracula's America miniatures here:
 
https://www.facebook.com/northstarmilitaryfigures/ (https://www.facebook.com/northstarmilitaryfigures/)


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on June 25, 2017, 07:00:14 PM
From what I've seen of this range so far, I have to say I'm very impressed. I haven't seen a bad figure yet!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Elk101 on June 25, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
From what I've seen of this range so far, I have to say I'm very impressed. I haven't seen a bad figure yet!  :)

There's some real crackers there. The Voodoo range looks very useful.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 25, 2017, 10:05:07 PM
From what I've seen of this range so far, I have to say I'm very impressed. I haven't seen a bad figure yet!  :)

EXACTLY! A very nice marriage between a team of highly talented sculptors - Mike Owen and Mark Copplestone - and the inspiration of RU-MOR's awesome artwork!  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 25, 2017, 10:48:40 PM
The ragged confederates do look quite nice.  Ragged, but nice.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 26, 2017, 12:29:41 AM
The ragged confederates do look quite nice.  Ragged, but nice.

-Michael

They're ragged because they're dead. Well, undead. Called REVENANTS in the game! They make one of the 6 starting factions, called The Dark Confederacy.  ;)

Dracula's America has its own Facebook page now: https://www.facebook.com/Draculas-America-Shadows-of-the-West-261540240960435/ (https://www.facebook.com/Draculas-America-Shadows-of-the-West-261540240960435/)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on June 26, 2017, 06:21:34 AM
ANNO DRACULA + ABRAHAM LINCOLN VAMPIRE HUNTER rip-off! :D

 
While I can't argue with this statement, I have to say that the more I see of this, the more I like it. I am very intrigued.

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 26, 2017, 06:46:39 AM
Apologies folks, real-life reared it's head over the weekend!

@Gardensnake: Indeed, it's more than a simple vampires versus humans 'rip-off'! Though as I've said before I'm a hopeless fanboy so expect plenty of references/homages to the Western and Horror genres throughout the books... And I make no apologies for that! ;)

@Dinohunterpoa: There are actually two kinds of Confederates shown in the new pictures- the living 'Die-Hards' and the pistol-wielding zombies are the 'Revenants'!

@MWeaver: Thanks for posting those images- plenty there that are new to me! :D Looking forward to painting up the Pale Rider to go with my Dark Confederacy...

@LeadAsbestos: Welcome aboard! While there are no hard and fast rules for creating your own Factions, the game is flexible enough that you can easily adapt the existing Factions and Skills to suit your needs- especially if you use the Advanced Posse creation system.

@Kommando_J: What a brilliant idea for a narrative mini-campaign!..  :-*

@Marine0846: Thanks- if you have any more questions yourself, drop them below and I'll try to answer them!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 26, 2017, 08:50:41 AM

@Dinohunterpoa: There are actually two kinds of Confederates shown in the new pictures- the living 'Die-Hards' and the pistol-wielding zombies are the 'Revenants'!

Fenrir, thank you very much for the clarification! Since the picture is not in color, they all look pretty dead to me, some freshier than the others!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 26, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
It's a hard life in the Dark Confederacy!..  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 26, 2017, 04:58:12 PM
Sounds like it is going to be a hard un-ife as well.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mac V on June 26, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
How's the shipping for Nickstarters in the US??

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on June 26, 2017, 07:21:49 PM
Apologies folks, real-life reared it's head over the weekend!

@Gardensnake: Indeed, it's more than a simple vampires versus humans 'rip-off'! Though as I've said before I'm a hopeless fanboy so expect plenty of references/homages to the Western and Horror genres throughout the books... And I make no apologies for that! ;)

@Dinohunterpoa: There are actually two kinds of Confederates shown in the new pictures- the living 'Die-Hards' and the pistol-wielding zombies are the 'Revenants'!

@MWeaver: Thanks for posting those images- plenty there that are new to me! :D Looking forward to painting up the Pale Rider to go with my Dark Confederacy...

@LeadAsbestos: Welcome aboard! While there are no hard and fast rules for creating your own Factions, the game is flexible enough that you can easily adapt the existing Factions and Skills to suit your needs- especially if you use the Advanced Posse creation system.

@Kommando_J: What a brilliant idea for a narrative mini-campaign!..  :-*

@Marine0846: Thanks- if you have any more questions yourself, drop them below and I'll try to answer them!

It has all the elements there, two obsessed/vindictive/crazy and wealthy men, each supported by a scientific institute (Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia and Peabody Museum of Natural History at Yale) and both willing to bribe, slander, sabotage each others digs as well as sponsor other bands of fossil hunters to dot he same.

Even without the added supernatural setting giving the dinosaur bones more 'military application', it'd still make for a good campaign lol, pic is Marsh(center) and his armed 'assistants'.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 27, 2017, 06:46:53 AM
Thanks- this is definitely something worth looking into!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on June 27, 2017, 10:13:15 PM
I think so, would love to help.

The late great Michael Chrichton did a book on the subject published post humously this year in May.

Reading into it further myself apparently in the rush to get discoveries out first dinosaurs would accidentally be invented when the wrong parts were put together during assembly, after hearing about these new rules I started imagining how much more potential for insanity their rivalry could have with added necromancy and a breakdown of law and order, a band of hunters closes in on a dig only to find one of Copeland or Marshs assistants with a hastily raised, cobbled-together dinosaur construct.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 27, 2017, 11:55:10 PM
I miss the brontosaurus! 

I wonder if a can find a miniature of a skeletal one...

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 29, 2017, 04:41:36 AM
I miss the brontosaurus!  

I wonder if a can find a miniature of a skeletal one...

Adventure Planet Dinosaur Skeleton toys:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0983/3428/products/36PADINSF_PACK_2614f2a4-7cf5-43ef-84b2-3c90c575fd81_large.jpg?v=1498370549)


Picture for scale comparison with a 28mm figure:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XJ4M39a8Lek/TMOxP5RolEI/AAAAAAAABuc/Pq3ic6tS5u8/s1600/Dino+Skel.JPG)

Picture from here: http://leadpeople.blogspot.com.br/2010/10/dollar-store-find-dinosaur-skeletons.html (http://leadpeople.blogspot.com.br/2010/10/dollar-store-find-dinosaur-skeletons.html)

 ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on June 29, 2017, 06:18:37 AM
@Gardensnake: Indeed, it's more than a simple vampires versus humans 'rip-off'! Though as I've said before I'm a hopeless fanboy so expect plenty of references/homages to the Western and Horror genres throughout the books... And I make no apologies for that! ;)

I just want to say that I meant no offense by my comment. I thought Anno Dracula was an awesome book and would make a great game, both jpg and tabletop miniatures. I love the mash-up of horror and western. It's like I said, the more I see of Dracula's America, the more I like. I'll be picking it up and look forward to the book.

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on June 29, 2017, 12:43:07 PM
Thanks, dinohunterpoa.  Why am I not surprised you had a ready answer to my question?

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on June 29, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Thanks, dinohunterpoa.  Why am I not surprised you had a ready answer to my question?

-Michael

Been there, done that, and got the scars!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on June 29, 2017, 01:32:35 PM
@Gardensnake: No offense taken!  :)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 01, 2017, 07:57:17 AM
Can you tell us about whichs stats a model has?

How does magic work?

Any unique mechanics or rules that you would like to highlight?

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 02, 2017, 10:34:31 PM
An inspiring picture from Dracula's America Facebook page:

"An Artizan Design Preacher and Dead Man's Hand Indian face off a Dracula's America Vampire Fledgling. Indian painted by Paul Cubbin, Vampire by Kev Dallimore."

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19642791_315468285567630_3331687554294923718_n.jpg?oh=1981e20762f4dd278bee3235dd833dec&oe=59CE05A0)

I would add: a GORGEOUS Vampire Fledgling!  :-*  (AWESOME sculpt and painting, CONGRATULATIONS guys!)



Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 03, 2017, 07:01:08 AM
I think this game may have the potential to be the next Frostgrave, the former pretty much covers(with tweaking)any fantasy/late medieval scenarios/forces one would wish to run...

This on the other hand, with the wild Wests weird mix of Europeans, Americans, Chinese immigrants, former slaves and natives all armed with everything from clubs and muskets to repeaters and gatling guns one could with tweaking run any skirmish conflict in the nineteenth century with tweaking(something I always loved about legends of the old west may it rest in peace).

I think with overall spend goals, the inclusion of artizans stuff as well as single minis from northstars IHMN range alongside the nice new minis that goals will have no trouble being met/the Nickstarter being a success.

Methinks I might be investing myself, at the very least i'll be getting the rulebook in order to run a band of exploring gentlemen(recently of the Congo) now landed in America in order to hunt some of these horrid fiends they've been hearing about.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malamute on July 03, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
Great photo. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Romark on July 03, 2017, 03:04:44 PM
Great photo. :)
That vampire lady miniature is very good  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Marine0846 on July 03, 2017, 05:07:12 PM
Love the photo.

Smart guy in back with the Indian in front.
Vampire bites the Indian he turns vampire.
Then they go after the cowboy.
Cowboy not so smart after all. ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 04, 2017, 08:05:49 AM
Apologies folks- I've been away on holiday to Hadrian's Wall country!  :)

@Saucy Jack: There are no 'stat-lines' as such- seeing as how the majority of models in the game are human (and so to prevent needless duplication of identical profiles), the game uses a 'Grit/Rank' system to model differences in skill level between models- where Novices use D6s, Veterans use D8s and Heroes use D10s. Specialist abilities such as being a better shot, harder to kill, braver and so on are represented by the Skills that can be learned via experience in a Campaign, or bought for your models if playing a one-off game.

Magic (or Arcane Powers as they are termed) comprises a generic list of 11 Powers that cover various effects such as healing, banishing supernatural entities and summoning creatures. The actual mechanics for Casting Powers follow the basic 'Dice pool' system used for Shooting and Fighting, though Arcanists can concentrate to give them a better chance of pulling off a more difficult Power! Some Factions allow you to start out with an Arcanist, but most Posses must find or purchase a Grimoire to allow one of their models to become an Arcanist.

I think my favourite mechanic in the game is the card-based Activation system- it keeps to the Old West theme, and brings some interesting resource management and decision-making to a Turn... Along with some good old-fashioned bluffing skills! ;)

@Kommando_J: Thanks very much for the kind words my friend (and especially the Frostgrave comparison!)- it really is intended to be a modular, 'tool-box' type-system, and so I'm looking forward to seeing what new settings you and other people use it for (personally, I like the idea of running a Hellboy game)!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on July 04, 2017, 06:22:57 PM
Fenrir,

I am very impressed. I don't think I have ever had an author answer so many questions about his rules when they are not even out yet!
Good job.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 04, 2017, 06:25:11 PM
Fenrir,

I am very impressed. I don't think I have ever had an author answer so many questions about his rules when they are not even out yet!
Good job.

This kind of kindness and commitment is the mark of a serious project!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 04, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
Its good to see and is the indicator of a good product, take frostgrave, unlike most of the games osprey churns out, it gets plenty of after release support which is certainly growing it.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: YPU on July 04, 2017, 07:15:08 PM
Its good to see and is the indicator of a good product, take frostgrave, unlike most of the games osprey churns out, it gets plenty of after release support which is certainly growing it.

I'm not sure I would agree there, Horizon wars had plenty of support from its writer before release for instance.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 04, 2017, 07:31:43 PM
Thanks again, folks!

I'm not a 'professional' games designer by any means (though I've been writing rules for myself and my friends for 27 years or so); so finally having a set of Weird West rules actually published by the likes of Osprey is the fulfilment of a lifelong ambition for me- it's hard to put into words how incredibly grateful I am for the opportunity! I've said it before, but Dracula's America has been 'my baby' for the last couple of years (and hopefully will be for the next couple as well!)- therefore I'm more than happy to wax lyrical about any aspects of the game (and indeed anything remotely related to it!) with anybody who is interested- the trick is in not getting carried away and giving EVERYTHING away all at once! ;)

Right, gushing over...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 04, 2017, 07:32:53 PM
@YPU: I'm still hoping we see the Kaiju-fighting supplement for Horizon Wars!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: YPU on July 04, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
@YPU: I'm still hoping we see the Kaiju-fighting supplement for Horizon Wars!

I think "Ragnarok" is going towards a separate but compatible release. I agree, very much a genre close to my heart!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 05, 2017, 01:15:19 AM
From the Congregation posse; designed by Mark Copplestone:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19665107_316784612102664_3022530148736326975_n.jpg?oh=c5b3b7a66e07b5b7cf3a65d63d97be58&oe=59D5BB35)


Check out Dracula's America Facebook page for more!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 06, 2017, 05:20:37 AM

While doing my research for Wild West figures suitable for Dracula's America, I've just had the joy to discover the lovely line of western characters by Gorgon Studios - sculpted by Mike Owen, one of the talents behind North Star's Dracula's America line of miniatures:

https://gorgon-studios.myshopify.com/collections/old-west (https://gorgon-studios.myshopify.com/collections/old-west)

A very big THANK YOU VERY MUCH to Tim Kulinski (of LoTHS fame) for the indication (and pictures) on his blog:

http://cursedtreasures.blogspot.com.br/2015/03/where-did-time-go.html (http://cursedtreasures.blogspot.com.br/2015/03/where-did-time-go.html)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uANtiz34QVo/VPPkhHYGqbI/AAAAAAAAHw4/Z3rb40WKTIg/s1600/DSC06942.JPG)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 06, 2017, 05:51:41 AM
Another question: Would it be possible for you to list the mercenary models you can hire and the models which can be summoned?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mac V on July 06, 2017, 12:19:57 PM
Any chance we'll see how the game plays before the Nickstarter?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on July 06, 2017, 12:48:36 PM
Thanks for linking to the Gorgon miniatures.  Some nice figures there.

-Michael. 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 06, 2017, 06:19:18 PM
Thanks for linking to the Gorgon miniatures.  Some nice figures there.

-Michael. 

Michael, you're always welcome!  ;)

I loved the trio of characters from the Cohen's 2010 version of TRUE GRIT! Any manufacturer that sells a character in both on foot and mounted versions have my attention!  :D 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sterling Moose on July 06, 2017, 09:38:26 PM
Quote
Thanks for linking to the Gorgon miniatures.  Some nice figures there.

+1

There are lots there with potential, and not just for Dracula's America!!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 07, 2017, 04:52:35 AM
@Saucy Jack: Sure- there are two lists of Hired Guns in the book (which can of course be mixed); Old West and Supernatural.

The Old West list contains:
Doc
Moonshiner
Preacher
Prospector
Pugilist
Scout

The Supernatural list contains:
Carpathian Guard (Red Hand Coven only)
Maverick Arcanist
Stitch-Doctor
Templar of the Order (Twilight Order only)
Undead Drifter

Summoned Creatures also fall into two types- basic Summons and unique Summons.

The basic Summons are Lesser, Minor and Major entities- these can be represented by whatever creature models you wish.

The unique Summons can only be brought into play by certain Factions, and are:

Behemoth, Hellhound (Crossroads Cult only)
Seraphim (Twilight Order only)
Swamp Baka, Temple Snake (The Congregation only)
Vengeful Shade (Dark Confederacy only)
Wendigo (Skinwalker Tribes only)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 07, 2017, 05:03:13 AM
@Mac V: I'm afraid I'm just not tech-savvy enough to create a 'how to play' video- and I'm not sure whether the good folks at Osprey have anything planned in that regard, either... Apologies!
There will be a Rules Showcase article in an upcoming issue of Wargames Illustrated, and I hope that some of the info I've given on this thread regarding rules mechanics might give you some rough idea of what kind of game it is and how it plays! :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 07, 2017, 06:21:59 AM
Thank you Fenrir
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Malebolgia on July 07, 2017, 07:16:36 AM
For Facebookers, the Nickstarter has started from Facebook...giving you a free Jackalope! Link is in the Facebook group. I'll probably be getting a rulebook today :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on July 07, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
Sadly, as a non-Facebooker, I will have to wait.  I think the regular Nickstarter starts Monday.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on July 07, 2017, 03:30:20 PM
Putting my order in for Congregation tonight! Plus a few assorted goodies like the Vampire Lord...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 07, 2017, 04:03:12 PM
Pre-order available on North Star's website on Monday!  ;D

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19437650_1695953627100199_8970807265667701326_n.jpg?oh=e2ec30585255489a732f152ab03b7b43&oe=5A055505)

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19780598_1707299342632294_3952651692250378543_o.jpg?oh=5f819f22e63111a2238d058ff99632e6&oe=5A02FB1B)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 07, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
Straight from Mr. Nick Eyre himself- members of the Dracula's America Player's Page Facebook Group can get in on the Nickstarter today (I'm not a Facebooker myself, so I will have to wait for my Jackalope!)...  ;)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/

Who else is thinking of going Dark Confederacy?!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 07, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
Straight from Mr. Nick Eyre himself- members of the Dracula's America Player's Page Facebook Group can get in on the Nickstarter today (I'm not a Facebooker myself, so I will have to wait for my Jackalope!)...  ;)

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19732373_1396816293743502_4051609039025986794_n.jpg?oh=fe8d031281fe5ff7fd7664e6d0f9c457&oe=59C58006)  :o


It's great that the figures are also available separately - even the classic western Artizan figures!


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 07, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Thanks very much, Dinohunterpoa- this is the first time I've seen the model!

Ever since I wrote the rules for the Jackalope, I've been waiting with baited breath for this mini... It does not disappoint- I must have an entire warren of them (I have a scenario idea...)!  :-*

In the game these little guys are quick on their feet and have the Bull-Rush Skill- this makes them lethal if they Charge you and win the ensuing Fight!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 07, 2017, 05:53:57 PM
Thanks very much, Dinohunterpoa- this is the first time I've seen the model!

Ever since I wrote the rules for the Jackalope, I've been waiting with baited breath for this mini... It does not disappoint- I must have an entire warren of them (I have a scenario idea...)!  :-*

In the game these little guys are quick on their feet and have the Bull-Rush Skill- this makes them lethal if they Charge you and win the ensuing Fight!

I think its not the first 28mm miniature of a Jackalope... but it is for sure the first 28mm Jackalope miniature with its own WARGAME RULES! AWESOME!!! ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 07, 2017, 05:59:30 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: The Dancer can of course be used as a Broodkin (or even the Broodsire leading your Posse if you prefer!)- I think North Star intended the model to be used as the Vampire Fledgling NPC that can turn up during the game to cause trouble for everyone- incidentally, the book has a suggestion for playing your games against the backdrop of an outbreak of Vampirism, where the whole town has been Turned and is out for blood- nothing to stop you having an entire chorus line of Vampire Dancers!..
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 07, 2017, 06:12:37 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: The Dancer can of course be used as a Broodkin (or even the Broodsire leading your Posse if you prefer!)- I think North Star intended the model to be used as the Vampire Fledgling NPC that can turn up during the game to cause trouble for everyone- incidentally, the book has a suggestion for playing your games against the backdrop of an outbreak of Vampirism, where the whole town has been Turned and is out for blood- nothing to stop you having an entire chorus line of Vampire Dancers!..


Thanks, Fenrir!

I edited my indignation from my post when I saw in the NS's hidden page that the Dancer was also meant to be a kind of newborn and feral vampire, and because of this she was not included in the Red Hand Coven Posse!  :D

From NS's hidden webpage:

DRAC3001 - Vampire Fledgling
These feral creatures still clad in ragged clothing were once ordinary folks- now in the first throes of Vampiric infection, they are little more than ravenous animals, driven only by the urge to feed!

Part of the Unwelcome Guests: A Bestiary section of the game. Not part of your posse.
28mm sized metal figure, supplied unpainted.

Designed by Mark Copplestone.


...nothing to stop you having an entire chorus line of Vampire Dancers!..

Mate, EVERY saloon need a chorus of Vampire Dancers!  :-*

(http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/all_images/WargamesIllustrated/ArticlePics/Reviews/Knuckleduster-01.jpg)
Knuckeduster Miniatures Can Can Dancers
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 07, 2017, 10:56:55 PM

And EVERY western game need a small, furry, antlered and psychotic Jackalope besides the Vampire Saloon Dancers!  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 07, 2017, 11:15:30 PM
@fenrir, is there a weapons table? Or are the weapons on each model purely for visual effect? The primary reason I ask is because most of the Apaches I own carry rifles but most of the Draculas America minis in the nickstarter only carry pistols. And I like my minis to vosually appear to carry the weapons their model stats say they do.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 08, 2017, 05:15:03 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: Too true, my friend!  8)

@Saucy Jack: There is indeed a weapons table, split into basic (such as pistols and carbines etc) and special (including sawn-off shotguns, heavy pistols and so on) groups.

WYSIWYG is pretty important in SOTW (I'm a huge fan of it myself!), and a starting Campaign Posse can only take basic weapons with a maximum of two of each weapon type, excluding pistols (once you have played your first Campaign game this restriction ceases to apply, however). This is why the range has so many pistol-armed models!
A basic Posse always comprises 6 models, so you could have 2 models with Carbines and 2 with Rifles, with the remaining 2 models armed with pistols or whatever.
If playing a one-off game, you are not limited to only basic weapons- so you can take repeater rifles, buffalo guns and so on- by the way, book 2 will also introduce a new (old!) basic weapon: the musket. These are long-ranged but slow to fire, and like the pistol you can take as many of them as you like! If I'm allowed, I'll post up preview stats for them here in the near-future...

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on July 08, 2017, 08:17:10 AM
Pre-order available on North Star's website on Monday!  ;D

A massive thanks to you, mate, for informing me of this. I have placed an order for all of the figures, the dice and the rulebook. I want the lot!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 08, 2017, 10:22:26 AM
A massive thanks to you, mate, for informing me of this. I have placed an order for all of the figures, the dice and the rulebook. I want the lot!  :D :D :D :D :D

Vampifan, you're always welcome!  ;)

I've heard that your free and exclusive Jackalope can be trained as a saloon dancer!  lol (mine will be properly gutted, stuffed and placed in a suitable place over the piano - these critters are so dangerous to be let free to roam around town!)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on July 08, 2017, 12:29:01 PM
Vampifan, you're always welcome!  ;)

I've heard that your free and exclusive Jackalope can be trained as a saloon dancer!  lol (mine will be properly gutted, stuffed and placed in a suitable place over the piano - these critters are so dangerous to be let free to roam around town!)

A fitting end for such a troublesome critter!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 08, 2017, 08:04:56 PM
A fitting end for such a troublesome critter!  lol

And my western town's saloon/whorehouse will be called THE HORNY JACKALOPE :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on July 08, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
And my western town's saloon/whorehouse will be called THE HORNY JACKALOPE :D

Why am I not surprised?  ::)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 08, 2017, 10:06:07 PM
Why am I not surprised?  ::)

 lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 08, 2017, 10:08:02 PM
The newest picture of the dreaded Jackalope on North Stars' Facebook:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19732355_1398343906924074_2450983354902281622_n.jpg?oh=08e9b70b9e78d911594b7dadc73ee9c5&oe=5A0B34EC)

Hurry to get yours, chaps!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on July 08, 2017, 11:05:02 PM
*sigh*

Not Monday, yet.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Flipperblack on July 09, 2017, 01:33:40 PM
I do not know if anyone can answer yet - but if a deck of cards is needed for the game is it one per side OR one for game as a whole.

Thks

Paul

PS joined up to nickstarter already!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on July 09, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
I think it is just a standard deck, so either way, easy to obtain!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 09, 2017, 02:32:35 PM
@Flipperblack: It's one standard deck of playing cards per player!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 09, 2017, 03:30:51 PM
@Flipperback: It's one standard deck of playing cards per player!  :)

I really like the idea of using a deck of poker cards for western games!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Flipperblack on July 09, 2017, 03:56:40 PM
Thks!!

I like the idea of using poker chips printed up as deck of cards!

I guess that would work!!



Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 09, 2017, 05:27:15 PM
@Flipperblack: As long as you have a way of keeping your 'Hand' secret from the other players, there's no reason why that shouldn't work!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sterling Moose on July 10, 2017, 12:44:06 AM
Is it me or does the Wendigo look like 'Old Jingle'?

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/old-jingle-robbie-the-reindeer-in-close-encounters-of-the-herd-kind-5.16.jpg
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 10, 2017, 04:42:14 AM
Is it me or does the Wendigo look like 'Old Jingle'?

DRAC4005 - Wendigo
Feral Spirits of winter and hunger, the Wendigo are the twisted souls of mortal men and women who commited Cannibalism in life. Now, they possess a craving for fresh meat that can never be sated...
Summoned Creature. can only join the Skinwalker Posse.


(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/0/img9350.jpg)


Those look much more "Wendigos" to me:

Copplestone Castings BC09 - Yetis
Taller Yeti approximately 35mm tall and the smaller one 30mm tall.

(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/img41.jpg)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on July 10, 2017, 03:24:22 PM
I must admit I'm going to see if I can use some of my significantly under utilized Malifaux models for this...

Some of the more weird ones won't work - especially the super science unless I decide to add that to the base background for my games. But I expect but the supernatural theme should allow a significant re-use of models.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Inkpaduta on July 10, 2017, 06:08:43 PM
The figures are now up on the North Star site.
many of them look very interesting. Although some are
actually older figures that I have seen sold by Artisan.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mr.J on July 10, 2017, 08:11:20 PM
I like these for Wendigo:

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/0/img7970.jpg)

Although the new sculpt is also interesting.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 10, 2017, 09:44:41 PM
I like these for Wendigo:

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/0/img7970.jpg)

Although the new sculpt is also interesting.

I've used that Reindeer From Hell miniature in a FROZEN game!  lol

I don't get WTF Wendigos are supposed to have horns! The human-like Wendigos of the movie RAVENOUS (1999) are much more scarier IMHO!  8)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenous) 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Cubs on July 11, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
Don't try to watch the movie 'Wendigo'. It's just unbelieveably boring and the actual 'Wendigo' you get to see right at the end is too comical for words.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on July 11, 2017, 11:40:51 AM

"dinohunterpoa: I don't get WTF Wendigos are supposed to have horns"

that one stumped me, but then again any answer that seemed reasonable would do. :D

personally I am going to take either a more "ghoul" look or RAVENOUS as you suggested with IMHO is a underrated horror
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 11, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
With wendigo's (wendigii?) like many mythological creatures, there are multiple looks from starving humanoids to antlered monsters and flaming corpses!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 11, 2017, 06:19:56 PM
Wait until you see RU-MOR's Wendigo artwork- it's one of my favourite pieces in the entire book! Very 'Pan's Labyrinth'...
You can of course use whatever suitable model you wish for your Wendigo if it suits your own vision- during playtesting, I used a wingless Otherworld Gargoyle with the antlers from a Frostgrave Rangifer!  :)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 11, 2017, 06:30:10 PM
...during playtesting, I used a wingless Otherworld Gargoyle with the antlers from a Frostgrave Rangifer!  :)

Again: WTF THEY MUST HAVE HORNS?!?!!?  :o  lol

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/powerlisting/images/0/0b/Until_Dawn_Wendigo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150923170121)

Fenrir, BTW: why don't you post here the "How it Plays.doc" from the Facebook page?  ;)

Better yet: an EXTENDED version!  :D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Neotacha on July 11, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
One could clip off the horns if they're such a bother.  I'm guessing they have horns because that's how the developers "saw" that particular monster.  Unless they have some horn special attack it really doesn't matter... :)




Edited because apparently I can't spell.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 11, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Well for someone who has never done wild west stuff in my many years of gaming, I've gone in for Dark Confeds'  and some Congregation chaps. I'm sure my Congo troops can fill out the ranks for them. Plus lots of spare pulp figures for various posses. Really looking forward to this silliness. :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 12, 2017, 08:44:50 AM
Anyone have any suggestions for some ragtag Johnny Rebs that can supplement the ones in the Nickstarter?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 12, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
Anyone have any suggestions for some ragtag Johnny Rebs that can supplement the ones in the Nickstarter?

Perry's plastic ACW + hobby soldering iron ???  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 12, 2017, 09:06:10 AM
Well for someone who has never done wild west stuff in my many years of gaming, I've gone in for Dark Confeds'  and some Congregation chaps. I'm sure my Congo troops can fill out the ranks for them. Plus lots of spare pulp figures for various posses. Really looking forward to this silliness. :D


dartfrog, BE WELCOME!!! ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 12, 2017, 09:19:37 AM
Perry's plastic ACW + hobby soldering iron ???  ;)
:D - was hoping for some smaller packages.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 12, 2017, 09:21:29 AM
:D - was hoping for some smaller packages.

You can buy single sprues very cheap from this guy here:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Second-City-Games?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Second-City-Games?_trksid=p2047675.l2563)

That's how I'm gonna have a mounted posse (and on foot models) of those Southern ragtag dudes!   :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 12, 2017, 09:35:44 AM
You can buy single sprues very cheap from this guy here:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Second-City-Games?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Second-City-Games?_trksid=p2047675.l2563)

That's how I'm gonna have a mounted posse (and on foot models) of those Southern ragtag dudes!   :D
That is great thank you!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mr Brown on July 12, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
I've personally opted for the Red Hand Coven posse deal with a few extras thrown in to start (cause I've always wanted a houngan...).

Really looking forward to these rules as WW games (in general) fit the bill for my preferred style of games i.e. small model count, skirmish, mix of ranged and melee. Throw in some campaign experience and its pretty much my ideal; probably why I loved LOTOW. Now considering that gothic horror elements have been thrown in to the mix, I don't think I could have asked for much more haha.

Been trawling through my lead pile and finding loads of things for projects that never really got started that I think will be shoehorned into my plans for this game. Now to find a local opponent...

On the subject of wendigo, I'm on the fence. I always envisaged them as feral otherworldy human spirits more akin to frozen ghouls. That being said, Ravenous is a really underrated movie in my opinion :D On the table, something clearly differentiated from the rest of the posse will help I guess.

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: area23 on July 12, 2017, 10:28:03 AM
It occurred to me that various interpretations for Wendigo I've seen are not far removed from H.P. Lovecraft's ghouls or ghast.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 12, 2017, 10:51:37 AM
That is great thank you!

Saucy Jack, you're always welcome!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 13, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Thanks Dinohunter' , I am hoping this will be a fun game I can drag others of my group into this. One has already liked the idea when I mentioned it. He has plans for a Chinese group if he can make one using the rules. Anyone know if that's possible? He loves the idea of the Immigrant Chinese gang defending themselves against the evil robber baron types as they push out from the west coast.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on July 13, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
From the descriptions we have had so far, sounds like a Chinese Defense League gang would be viable (could just model it on an existing band's rules).

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 13, 2017, 01:10:50 PM
According to the author the first supplement will feature Chinese gangs.

Personally i'd love to see a secessionist California under Emperor Norton and his vigilante bands.

Or possibly occultist Paschal Beverly Randolph, a great personal friend of Lincoln and abolitionist.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: axabrax on July 13, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
It's a cool match up! Interesting twist on stock Western conventions and how can you not love the Copplestone Vudu!

Well for someone who has never done wild west stuff in my many years of gaming, I've gone in for Dark Confeds'  and some Congregation chaps. I'm sure my Congo troops can fill out the ranks for them. Plus lots of spare pulp figures for various posses. Really looking forward to this silliness. :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on July 13, 2017, 02:57:40 PM
I'm interested in whats happening in the cold north of Canada during this time... in the alternate history.

The various British properties in the east likely became Canada, as that was before the change in history. But the alternate history may mean Rupert's land (got to love that name), the North West Territories and the United Colony of British Columbia might not join the confederation. Of course there is even less chance they would join the US from what it sounds like.  So that might make for some interesting scenario's with stronger British influence - and even provide an excuse for redcoats and Hudson's bay company themed games in the northern west etc

Oh and yes Ice and snow theme baddies/monsters spring to my mind as well. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 13, 2017, 10:40:20 PM
Do have a question to whom ever may know, is this a multi player game? I love Congo, but it limits itself with being 2 players. I hope this can be used by multi groups if needed.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 14, 2017, 12:32:29 AM
Do have a question to whom ever may know, is this a multi player game? I love Congo, but it limits itself with being 2 players. I hope this can be used by multi groups if needed.

According to the Author in the "How It Plays" document in the Dracula's America Players Facebook Page:

•   It is designed to be played on an area between 2'x2' and 4'x4', and caters for 2-8 players; with a typical 8-Turn game lasting around 45 minutes to an hour or so.
 
 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 14, 2017, 12:37:58 AM

From the Dracula's America Facebook Players Page, by the books' author Jonathan Haythornthwaite (aka Fenrir here on LAF):  

DRACULA'S AMERICA: SHADOWS OF THE WEST
HOW IT PLAYS!

•   Dracula's America is a 'modular' rules-set- you can either play it as a traditional Old West skirmish game, or introduce the weirder elements such as supernatural creatures and Arcane Powers as you wish.

•   It is designed to be played on an area between 2'x2' and 4'x4', and caters for 2-8 players; with a typical 8-Turn game lasting around 45 minutes to an hour or so.

•   Posses for one-off games can be built in one of two ways- the simple WYSIWYG driven 'basic' system, or the more involved 'advanced' system that uses points (or in our case, Dollars) that allows you to really customise your models.

•   You can also link games together to form a Campaign, with models upgrading their weapons and equipment and earning Experience to improve their abilities or learn new Skills- they can also suffer Lasting Injuries, and have Encounters between games!

•   The game uses 6, 8 and 10-sided Dice- Novice models use D6s, Veterans use D8s and Heroes use D10s- and each player additionally needs a deck of ordinary playing cards.

•   The Action Phase is where models get to act, and revolves around drawing a Hand of cards equal to half the number of models you have in play- each player then secretly chooses a card. Once everyone has chosen, they reveal their cards- the highest value card gets to Activate, followed by the next highest, and so on. Black cards always trump red cards! Once all players have had an Activation, the process is repeated until all models have been Activated and the Phase ends.
This system adds resource management and bluffing skills to the proceedings!

•   When it is your Activation, you may either Activate one model and perform 2 Actions with it, or two different models and perform 1 Action with each of them. Models can Move, Shoot, Fight, go on Lookout, or Cast Arcane Powers when Activated.

•   Movement is simple, but dynamic- models can vault fences, clamber up walls, run along rooftops and leap through windows- as such, the game plays best with a tactically interesting and varied terrain layout...

•   All in-game Tests (including attacks) are made by rolling either 1 or 3 Dice to start with, depending on circumstances. Situational modifiers will add or subtract Dice from this 'pool', so good tactical positioning of your models will be rewarded. Each Die scoring a 5 or better is a Success, with the total Successes determining how well you did at that task.
Models that are successfully attacked must make a Save- if this is failed, the margin of failure determines whether they are Shaken, Downed, or if they fall Casualty. Downed models may have a chance of recovering later on, but until then can do nothing except crawl or be dragged to safety by a comrade.

•   Dracula's America was designed to be flexible, easy to learn, and to reward narrative play- with extra rules covering innocent bystanders, dynamite and riding horses- basically if it's appeared in a Western (or Horror!) movie, it's likely that you will also see it in Dracula's America!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/)

 ;)

 

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 14, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
Thanks dino'! I don't do facebook, so that's really helpful.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 14, 2017, 09:30:25 AM
Thanks dino'! I don't do facebook, so that's really helpful.

Cheers.

Dartfrog, you're always welcome!

I figured out a lot of LAFers aren't into Facebook, so I decided to post the document, since the author himself is certainly very busy with the new supplement due January 2018!!!  :D

(Fenrir, take your time... AND DON'T FORGET THE DINOSAUR RULES!!!  lol)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 14, 2017, 05:35:51 PM
It seems I've got quite a lot to catch up on here- to those of you that have joined in on the Nickstarter; my humble thanks! :)

@Dinohunterpoa: I actually don't 'do' Facebook either, so thanks for posting up the 'How It Plays' document! As for the dinosaurs... This is Dracula's America, so Kommando_J's idea of necromantically-resurrected dinosaur skeletons prowling the badlands might be viable in the future- I'll need to check with the good folks at Osprey! ;)

@Everybody: as usual, if you have any questions not already covered then drop them below and I'll try to keep up!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 14, 2017, 06:32:24 PM
Fenrir, i'd love to help as it is my dream to get into publishing/writing articles some day.

I think the bone wars have all the elements both supernatural and not, have a few other ideas that i'd love to share(one of my masters courses this year was ''the American way of war'' - I concentrated on the civil war).
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 14, 2017, 07:06:12 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: I actually don't 'do' Facebook either, so thanks for posting up the 'How It Plays' document! As for the dinosaurs... This is Dracula's America, so Kommando_J's idea of necromantically-resurrected dinosaur skeletons prowling the badlands might be viable in the future- I'll need to check with the good folks at Osprey! ;)

 :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 14, 2017, 11:23:40 PM
Dracula's America Quiz - Find your Faction

https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/draculas_america_faction_quiz (https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/draculas_america_faction_quiz)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 14, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
And since we're here, some very inspirational pictures from Nick Eyre's hard job of playing with miniatures and amazing scenery testing the rulesets:  

Twilight Order Vs. Red Hand Coven

Posses Face Off:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19959373_1403159739775824_4754576061188657969_n.jpg?oh=86a48cd1c171927af56b287aa51aae8d&oe=59FCB3B1)

Gunfight On the Ok Corral Over the Cabbage Patch:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20031665_1403159746442490_3620904589258608422_n.jpg?oh=0da1d99998e924707bfce7ab222bbd26&oe=59FA92CE)

Vampires in the Mist Pig Pen:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20046445_1403159783109153_6349075106395986357_n.jpg?oh=65d535f565694cbb4d092acb3fcb6b40&oe=59FD60C3)

From here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/)


Nick, what about a detailed AAR here on LAF?  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 15, 2017, 06:04:06 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: Those Dino-riders...  :-*  :-*  :-*
And thanks for posting up those pictures of Nick's game as well- as you say: highly inspirational stuff!  :)
After I've finished work today I'm gonna take that quiz, too!

@Kommando_J: Thanks very much- once I've got the supplements in the can I'll pick your brain some more if that's alright with you!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 15, 2017, 12:13:17 PM
More than alright, I have many ideas, some big some small.

One that just pops back into my head was reading about an American missionary group in Africa that had to close down after one of their lead missionaries went a bit 'mad' and split off to teach his own unique interpretation, perhaps he returns to America with his new congregation in tow?

Other creatures now finding themselves in America as greedy foreigners remove relics and remains from crypts and tombs in order to populate Americas museums.

I'd imagine Richard Burton would get involved somehow, the man loved scandal and shocking people, I could well imagine him practicing sorcery or becoming the head of his own vampire brood(the man loathed rivals).
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on July 15, 2017, 12:51:24 PM
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 15, 2017, 07:39:09 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: Those Dino-riders...  :-*  :-*  :-*
And thanks for posting up those pictures of Nick's game as well- as you say: highly inspirational stuff!  :)

Fenrir, you're always welcome! Please pistol whip politely ask Nick to post here on LAF some detailed AARs of his Dracula's America games with lots of pictures!  :D

That native american dino riders picture is not mine (my own dino riders are all Kroot natives! lol ); it's from a Deadlands: The Great Rail Wars game posted a long time ago in a now defunct blog!  ;)

BTW: if anyone knows of a Deadlands: TGRW game with some masked dino-riders robbing a train with a triceratops with a howdah and a great harpoon gun, PLEASE LET ME KNOW! I think this is a great idea to be shamelessly stolen is very inspiring stuff!  :D
  
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on July 16, 2017, 06:13:25 AM
:D

That pic is cool as can be. Awesome idea. :o

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 16, 2017, 10:59:36 AM

West Wind ROADKILL Miniatures (large 28mm - 32mm scale), to be easily converted as:

Red Coven Vampires (do vampires ride horses?)


(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/figures/Roadkill/Characters/grk2-800x800.jpg)
(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/figures/Roadkill/Characters/grk1-800x800.jpg)


Twilight Order Crusaders (also as horse riders!):

(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/figures/Roadkill/Characters/grk6-800x800.jpg)
(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/figures/Roadkill/Characters/grk5-800x800.jpg)

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=135 (http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=135)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 16, 2017, 02:05:34 PM
West winds gothic horror range is also good for minis for The Congregation
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Sterling Moose on July 16, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Some other options here:

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=70_119
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 16, 2017, 05:55:51 PM
West winds gothic horror range is also good for minis for The Congregation

Some other options here:
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=70_119

Yep, there's a thread on The Congregation here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=102166.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=102166.0)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 18, 2017, 04:28:58 AM
Another question:

If you hit your target by shooting or otherwise, what happens to the target? Does he get some kind of save, loose a wound or is just removed from the table?


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 18, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: Good call- I have a few of those Roadkill bikers for my Post Apocalypse games!

@Saucy Jack: When a model is Hit by an attack, it must make a Save- the score needed depends on the number of Successes scored by the attacker, starting at 5+ and working up to a maximum of 10. Note that you must attempt the Save even it is impossible to achieve on your model's Die type (eg an 8+ Save on a D6)- this is because the margin of failure determines the Damage suffered. Failing by 1-2 results in the model being Shaken (or if already Shaken, you go Down), failing by 3-4 Downs the model, and failing by 5 or more causes the model to be removed as a Casualty!
Of course, various Skills and weapon types can influence this process in some way, making it more or less likely that you will pass your Save...
A Downed model is not out of the game, but is limited to crawling around (though friends can drag them to safety) and bleeding until it manages to Recover at the end of a subsequent Turn (or it bleeds out and falls Casualty!).

Finally, in a Fight a model can decide to Shove it's target away instead of causing Damage- useful for throwing people off balconies or from horseback!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 18, 2017, 10:50:11 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: Good call- I have a few of those Roadkill bikers for my Post Apocalypse games!

@Saucy Jack: When a model is Hit by an attack, it must make a Save- the score needed depends on the number of Successes scored by the attacker, starting at 5+ and working up to a maximum of 10. Note that you must attempt the Save even it is impossible to achieve on your model's Die type (eg an 8+ Save on a D6)- this is because the margin of failure determines the Damage suffered. Failing by 1-2 results in the model being Shaken (or if already Shaken, you go Down), failing by 3-4 Downs the model, and failing by 5 or more causes the model to be removed as a Casualty!
Of course, various Skills and weapon types can influence this process in some way, making it more or less likely that you will pass your Save...
A Downed model is not out of the game, but is limited to crawling around (though friends can drag them to safety) and bleeding until it manages to Recover at the end of a subsequent Turn (or it bleeds out and falls Casualty!).

Finally, in a Fight a model can decide to Shove it's target away instead of causing Damage- useful for throwing people off balconies or from horseback!

I liked that, specially the "throwing people off balconies " part!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 19, 2017, 05:36:50 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: Good call- I have a few of those Roadkill bikers for my Post Apocalypse games!

@Saucy Jack: When a model is Hit by an attack, it must make a Save- the score needed depends on the number of Successes scored by the attacker, starting at 5+ and working up to a maximum of 10. Note that you must attempt the Save even it is impossible to achieve on your model's Die type (eg an 8+ Save on a D6)- this is because the margin of failure determines the Damage suffered. Failing by 1-2 results in the model being Shaken (or if already Shaken, you go Down), failing by 3-4 Downs the model, and failing by 5 or more causes the model to be removed as a Casualty!
Of course, various Skills and weapon types can influence this process in some way, making it more or less likely that you will pass your Save...
A Downed model is not out of the game, but is limited to crawling around (though friends can drag them to safety) and bleeding until it manages to Recover at the end of a subsequent Turn (or it bleeds out and falls Casualty!).

Finally, in a Fight a model can decide to Shove it's target away instead of causing Damage- useful for throwing people off balconies or from horseback!
Thank you
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Davies on July 19, 2017, 10:25:07 AM
I'm in since the first day of the Nickstarter, but I admit I never been attracted to Old West setting for a game. However, Fenrir dedication to answer our questions is what convinces me to join the party. As someone already posted, it's similar to Joe Mc Cullough's work with Frostgrave and his readiness to answer every doubt about his game. It gives a trust on the final product.

(Come on, you reticent people! We all need that chupacabra unlocked!)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 19, 2017, 03:33:03 PM
I'm in since the first day of the Nickstarter, but I admit I never been attracted to Old West setting for a game. However, Fenrir dedication to answer our questions is what convinces me to join the party. As someone already posted, it's similar to Joe Mc Cullough's work with Frostgrave and his readiness to answer every doubt about his game. It gives a trust on the final product.

EXACTLY!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 20, 2017, 07:23:22 AM
I'm in the same boat, never touched WW games before. And now I'm eager for this and even splashed out on all sorts of terrain bits. So hope it's going to be a cracker. I do notice it's slowed down on the Nickstarter front at the moment. Have we reached a peak?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 20, 2017, 08:29:07 AM
Good morning, folks!

I'm glad that Dracula's America has tempted some of you to look into Old West gaming as a whole- it's a fascinating and exciting setting beyond the stereotypical 'Cowboys versus Indians' stuff; and of course there are already some great rule-sets out there, which of course you'll be able to try out using your DA figures as well! ;)

I'm sure there's already plenty of inspiration here on the Old West forum on LAF, but to get you newcomers in the mood can I humbly suggest the following films: The Magnificent Seven, 3:10 to Yuma and True Grit (the originals or the recent remakes), Once Upon a Time in the West (my personal favourite Western of all time!) The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Django Unchained, and- for a bit of 'Weirdness'- Bone Tomahawk. There are of course plenty of other fantastic films and books (Jonah Hex is good if you are a fan of Graphic Novels- it even has a few Weird aspects)...

I think the slowing-down on the Nickstarter is due to the fairly 'niche' nature of the setting- unlike say Frostgrave, which has a very broad appeal (most gamers have at least a handful of fantasy figures lying around somewhere!)- as some of you have already said, you've never considered gaming the Old West until now!
But that's ok- I'm hoping that once folks have had a chance to play Dracula's America themselves, word will spread and encourage new players to give it a try... Time will tell, but be sure that there is plenty more to come!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 20, 2017, 09:08:48 AM

Mornin' pardner, well said!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 20, 2017, 06:41:01 PM
Well that's 2 more buildings made from Empires at war OW range. Very nice little buildings that go together fast. Now I have enough to do the 'tropical' States for the Congregation and with the OW buildings I can drift in to the 'classic western' look too. Even found and painted some cacti that I bought for an odd reason last year at salute.
Think I've been bitten by the bug...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Cubs on July 20, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
I'm sure there's already plenty of inspiration here on the Old West forum on LAF, but to get you newcomers in the mood can I humbly suggest the following films: The Magnificent Seven, 3:10 to Yuma and True Grit (the originals or the recent remakes), Once Upon a Time in the West (my personal favourite Western of all time!) The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Django Unchained, and- for a bit of 'Weirdness'- Bone Tomahawk.

'The Outlaw Josey Wales' is a personal fave of mine, movie-wise, but for weird WW inspiration in graphic form, I thoroughly recommend 'Missionary Man', written by Gordon Rennie and drawn by Frank Quitely. It was originally in 2000ad and the graphic novels can be picked up pretty cheaply now.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: von Lucky on July 21, 2017, 12:00:06 AM
The butterfly in me is liking this thread.

(I'm just posting to stop myself from feeling distracted/guilty when clicking on this thread every time there's new posts.)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 21, 2017, 04:45:36 AM
For me Pale Rider just has something, as do Eldorado and rio Bravo. For ww the best is Dead Birds.

This game checks so many boxes for me that I can't remember the last time a setting has done so. I really really want the rulebook so that I can read about the game.


I still think you could be on a winner here fenrir.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 21, 2017, 06:09:38 AM
@ Cubs and Saucy Jack: Thanks very much for the recommendations- I've not seen Dead Birds or read Missionary Man, so those are both going on my list!  8)

@Dartfrog: Glad to hear it- I assure you that it's the best kind of bug to be bitten by. I started out picking up a couple of Old West buildings many moons ago, and now I have boxes of the stuff!  ;)

@Von Lucky: If you have any questions about the game, then fire away- we will see if we can't tempt that butterfly!

@Saucy Jack (again!): Many thanks for the kind words- I hope it lives up to your expectations! At the end of the day I wrote it for fans of the Western/Horror genres like myself, so if nothing else you can enjoy catching the various references!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 23, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
Finished painting my scarecrows from Crooked dice. I can't wait to see these guys coming out of the corn field at some poor hapless Confed' or cowboy. Not sure if the rules have anything for them but I'm sure I can bend them to fit  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 23, 2017, 03:09:52 PM
Finished painting my scarecrows from Crooked dice. I can't wait to see these guys coming out of the corn field at some poor hapless Confed' or cowboy. Not sure if the rules have anything for them but I'm sure I can bend them to fit  ;)

dartfrog, take a look at the 2004 Western/Horror DEAD BIRDS movie for great scarecrows inspiration against a poor hapless bunch of Confederate deserters!  ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Birds_(2004_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Birds_(2004_film))
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 23, 2017, 06:49:59 PM
**Cough**Book 3**cough**  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 23, 2017, 08:25:05 PM
Thanks on the film to check. And, book 3! Joy. My friend is already chomping at the bit over the Tongs in the first supplement. And we haven't even got the rules yet, he he.

Finished my basic western 'town'. Now see it NEEDS a sheriffs office and Wells Fargo office for telegrams and letters. Maybe next month when I have some funds :( .
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 23, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
**Cough**Book 3**cough**  ;)
What is in book 3?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: von Lucky on July 23, 2017, 09:13:00 PM
Anyone know of a not-Richardson miniature from Deadwood? Bonus if the guy is holding an antler.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 24, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
Something I forgot to ask. Weapon ranges? Pistols, carbines, rifles and bows. Plus the odd bottle of whiskey no doubt.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 25, 2017, 04:54:11 AM
@Saucy Jack: Right now all I can say about book 3 is that it is set in the ruinous swamps of the Dark Confederacy and features murderous scarecrows, amongst other critters!  ;) But I guess it will all depend on how well the first two books are received...

@Dartfrog: Yep, plenty of weapons and gear in SOTW- whiskey will temporarily make you braver, but a worse shot- there are also telescopic sights, bottles of dubious-looking snake oil and lassos (good for dragging folks off rooftops!), amongst other things. Weapon Ranges are divided into short, medium and long 'increments' (a pistol is 4/8/12, carbines and bows are 6/12/18, and rifles are 8/16/24); and as in many games of this type are slightly 'abstracted'- initially I had intended for guns to be able to fire the length of the board (as you'd expect in real life over the small area we are dealing with in a typical game), but after play-testing this it quickly became apparent that the abstracted method was just better for gameplay!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 25, 2017, 06:37:32 AM
Once again thanks for replying  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 25, 2017, 09:06:34 AM
Thanks. Gives me an idea for game area and scenarios etc. We have two main game boards. One is 3x4 and the other is 5x9. I think the big one will make for some epic games, plenty of use of horses and wagons by the sounds of it. If the max range is 2' then some fun manauvers between town and mine etc.

Ach book 3 is the one I need! I planned on going 'deep south' for many of my games, as I have plenty of terrain for that from Congo and other such games. Plus I'm plotting a mega southern plantation with large house for the congregation to plot against and gives the exconfed posh guy a base of operations.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on July 25, 2017, 10:49:21 AM
Looks like a beautiful book:

https://youtu.be/bPzMSV23g4w (https://youtu.be/bPzMSV23g4w)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 25, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
Wow, cool! I'm off to make some more bits for my town. Getting excited about this more and more. Like frostgrave cured my fantasy magic cravings, I hope this dose for shooting skirmish horror fun.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 25, 2017, 01:03:57 PM
Looks like a beautiful book:

https://youtu.be/bPzMSV23g4w (https://youtu.be/bPzMSV23g4w)

Hardcover, couché paper and GREAT artwork, but the design doesn't say anything "Wild West" to me...  :-[
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: axabrax on July 25, 2017, 02:36:55 PM
Why? No dinosaurs?  ;)

Hardcover, couché paper and GREAT artwork, but the design doesn't say anything "Wild West" to me...  :-[
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 25, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
Why? No dinosaurs?  ;)


Another Osprey's EPIC FAILURE, thanks for the reminder!  ;D

EDIT> My new horse stares at me very weird when I say I'd rather be riding a velociraptor!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on July 26, 2017, 12:56:52 AM
So will any of the books cover Canada (the great white North really as it was not really a single country of Canada till a bit later) and/or Mexico? The supernatural aspects of the neighbors can't but have an influence there I assume?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 26, 2017, 09:22:37 AM
I should think much of Canada would be similar to Skinwalker for the indiginious Indians. The NE/NW Indians would have whales walkers and such. Less sure on Eskimo and other far northern culture horrors.

As for mexico *shudder* Well we know who was in their recent past!Zorro's daughter Vs the Feathered Serpent! Plenty of nasty to rise there. Stuff that could put ol' Drac' in his place!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mr Brown on July 26, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
With a little imagination I'm sure you could probably shoe horn in a lot from the Great White North already. Not sure what rules/equipment/gear etc. in the rules as they are cater for Mountain Men and trappers and such, but wouldn't be too much of a stretch to fit. Skinwalker tribes with some aesthetic changes and of course Wendigo, nature spirits etc. The deep frozen wastes might harbour truly alien terrors but then who goes there anyway :P

As for south? Well Banditos and such are probably already catered for and probably just require the right aesthetic too.

Looking forward to reading in to the setting a bit more and seeing what people come up with. Despite all the nay sayers who made out that weird wild west was a bit niche, I can think of loads of opportunity; not to mention all the stuff already discussed here. For example, discussing with a friend locally who hadn't heard about this and instantly he made a connection with Werewolf (Rage) the Wild West. He thought it would be cool to have games between native tribes and invading old world kin. Now whilst it might not be directly applicable in the setting as written, I'm sure we'd be able to fit something in from the descriptions and examples given.

Hopefully not too long before we get our hands on our copies :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 26, 2017, 10:22:00 AM
Love the idea of invading 'werewolf' skinwalkers have arrived and are waging a war with native skinwalkers and their people. Interesting clash of cultures and people. East Euro werewolf takes on Ameranid werebuffalo or bears, fun take on the game.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mr Brown on July 26, 2017, 10:49:53 AM
Clash of cultures is something that probably best sums up the way you can adapt games and settings. I dislike rules and character or model creation that is too generic but being able to use the same core and modifying the theme can open loads of options.

Old vs New world skinwalkers (totem warriors vs loup garou) being the example above.

What about some some British chaps including a student of the renowned Dr Jekyll? Some nefarious individuals from grimy Edinburgh or London associated with medical experimentation on the dead fleeing the authorities taking their knowledge and 'experiments' with them.

Really hoping that this gains some attention locally as I think it could be a great club campaign game.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on July 26, 2017, 04:16:41 PM
Fenrir, the game and especially the setting looks great. I am wondering about two things:

1) Is there a list of monsters that can enter the game? Are they always part of a posse? Can they also work on their own (Frostgrave style)?

2) Are civilians part of some scenarios / some kind of scenario complictions?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 26, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
Some interesting ideas here, folks- the Great White North is a setting I'd considered for SOTW, but let's see how things go with the first couple of books first... ;)

Speaking of which- the Nickstarter is almost over now; and we are closing in on a free Chupacabra for everyone!

@Paboook: Thanks very much! I'll try to answer your questions below...

1) In book 1 there are ten NPC monsters (or Unwelcome Guests as we call them) that can potentially turn up mid-game and cause havoc for all Posses! These are: Jackalope, Chupacabra, Vampire Fledgling, Hellhound, Sasquatch, Zombie, Lost Soul, Manitou, Pale Rider, and Vampire Ancient.
There are also suggestions for playing your games in the midst of a zombie or vampiric outbreak!

2) Innocent Bystanders can be included in any Scenario, and can be held hostage by unscrupulous outlaw types (or used as food by passing vampires!). One of the Agendas (random sub-plots that play out alongside the main objective of a Scenario) also involves you escorting a VIP civilian to safety...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on July 26, 2017, 07:33:38 PM

@Paboook: Thanks very much! I'll try to answer your questions below...

1) In book 1 there are ten NPC monsters (or Unwelcome Guests as we call them) that can potentially turn up mid-game and cause havoc for all Posses! These are: Jackalope, Chupacabra, Vampire Fledgling, Hellhound, Sasquatch, Zombie, Lost Soul, Manitou, Pale Rider, and Vampire Ancient.
There are also suggestions for playing your games in the midst of a zombie or vampiric outbreak!

2) Innocent Bystanders can be included in any Scenario, and can be held hostage by unscrupulous outlaw types (or used as food by passing vampires!). One of the Agendas (random sub-plots that play out alongside the main objective of a Scenario) also involves you escorting a VIP civilian to safety...

Excellent :)

Could you send a list of hired guns too? I have noticed only the doctor.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 26, 2017, 08:48:31 PM
What kind of melee weapons do we have? I have an excellent idea for some fluff/a gang/expansion idea but it requires cavalry sabres...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 27, 2017, 05:38:49 AM
@Paboook: Sure! The Hired Guns in book 1 are- The Doc, the Moonshiner, the Preacher, the Prospector, the Pugilist and the Scout.
There is also a list of 'Weird West' Hired Guns- the Carpathian Guard, the Maverick Arcanist, the Stitch-Doctor, the Templar of the Order and the Undead Drifter.

@Kommando_J: Melee weapons are more of an aesthetic thing right now, mainly due to reasons of space/word count- though certain Hired Guns have unique weapons such as the Blessed Greatsword of the Templar of the Order, and the Prospector's hefty pick-axe! You can also use small hold-out pistols like the Derringer in a Fight...
However book 2 introduces swords and spears to the proceedings, have no fear!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 27, 2017, 11:11:03 AM
Excellent, my idea is that San Francisco and the surrounding area secedes from the United States under the beneficent leadership of Joshua Abraham Norton or as he would be most famously known "Norton I, Emperor of the United States"and later "Protector of Mexico" who declares(without a hint of irony) that Dracula is an unelected impostor!

Vigilante bands roam San Francisco, each led by hand picked men dressed in old uniforms and armed with cavalry sabres in imitation of their Commander-in-Chief., their main purpose to drive out any Red hand Coven spies and ensure the safety of the people.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 27, 2017, 11:14:42 AM

The CHUPACABRA! 

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20476127_326893054425153_8390296130954427138_n.jpg?oh=1ed75a4385cda0d4e6fbf27069d4c6fb&oe=59FD9C38)

More info here: http://nstarmagazine.com/DRACULA_SHADOWS_OF_THE_WEST.htm (http://nstarmagazine.com/DRACULA_SHADOWS_OF_THE_WEST.htm)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: commissarmoody on July 27, 2017, 12:38:08 PM
Excellent, my idea is that San Francisco and the surrounding area secedes from the United States under the beneficent leadership of Joshua Abraham Norton or as he would be most famously known "Norton I, Emperor of the United States"and later "Protector of Mexico" who declares(without a hint of irony) that Dracula is an unelected impostor!

Vigilante bands roam San Francisco, each led by hand picked men dressed in old uniforms and armed with cavalry sabres in imitation of their Commander-in-Chief., their main purpose to drive out any Red hand Coven spies and ensure the safety of the people.
Not a bad idea actually. I would like to see some Mexican bandits and federal troops from both sides of the border....that is unless old drac, killed off the Army some how.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 27, 2017, 04:28:35 PM
I could see the border troops sheltering across away from Dracula's agents, not many vampire will want to follow them to the land of sunshine and Catholics lol.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 27, 2017, 07:56:09 PM
I'm liking the chupacapra more now, hope we hit the target.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 27, 2017, 09:46:49 PM
We will, we're 15 pounds off and I have an order to put in before Monday...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 27, 2017, 10:30:48 PM
We will, we're 15 pounds off and I have an order to put in before Monday...

YESSSSS!!!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 27, 2017, 10:33:26 PM
Think we are 515 short. Target is 12500. Still deciding if I get more myself.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 28, 2017, 12:30:14 AM
Damn, I thought the target was £12,000...will have to do my bit anyway.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 28, 2017, 12:36:11 AM
It might be a close run thing, but I hope we make it. Means I'll get 3 special figures  :D .
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 28, 2017, 04:44:00 AM

From a recent Tweet from North Star Miniatures,  the current BEST SELLING FIGURE of the Dracula's America line is...

https://t.co/pW0GHUeKg1 (https://t.co/pW0GHUeKg1)  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 28, 2017, 05:01:18 AM

And here at a recent post at the Osprey's blog, Dracula's America author Jonathan Haythornthwaite has run through the different Posses:

https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/introducing_the_factions/ (https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/introducing_the_factions/)  

 ;)

(https://ospreypublishing.com/media/wysiwyg/Red_Hand.png)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: SotF on July 28, 2017, 11:18:18 PM
You know, two factions that I'd love to see would be a Dogman Pack and Sasquatch Troop...going with some of the cryptids as part of it.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on July 29, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
I am going to ask a rather silly question, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that posses are limited in the number of longarms they may have is this true or as the rotgut messed with my mind
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 29, 2017, 01:28:27 PM
Not sure, it seems the basic posse is limited to a few, however if building your own I think you can have as many as wanted.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 30, 2017, 12:07:51 AM
As I understand it, your starting possee in a campaign can have up to two long arms, no restrictions after or for one off games.

Makes sense to me, in any skirmish game long arms tend to dominate so beginning games are just long range snipes.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 30, 2017, 12:13:19 AM
I've got to make the decision as to what extras I'm going to get before day ends. Seems we haven't moved much on the total, assuming Nick has upgraded us to the current total.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 30, 2017, 06:51:15 AM
@SOTF: 'Dogmen' will be lurking in the bayous of book 3, in the guise of the Loup-Garou. Think of them as a cross between backwoods hunters and the 'dog-faced men' (and women) from historical travelling shows...
A Sasquatch Troop would be very nice indeed- I might very well write up a Faction list for them at some point as extra material!  :) They would make great opponents for an idea I had for a clan of cannibalistic/ghoulish mountain men (a la Ravenous) lurking in the mountains and forests...

@Delta Blue: Dartfrog and Kommando-J have the right of it! A starting Posse is limited to no more than 2 of each weapon (besides pistols) purely to keep things as balanced as possible early on- as you advance, you will be able to purchase whatever weapons you like!
Having said that, it seems this is worrying a few folks with a lot of longarms in their collection- early next week I'll have a word with the Osprey folks and see if we can't post the musket rules (intended for book 2) soon after SOTW is out so you can use them (like pistols, you aren't limited in the number of Muskets available to a starting Posse!)...

@Dartfrog: This month has gone fast! Just wanted to say thanks muchly to you and everybody else who chipped in on the Nickstarter!  :D
I'm not sure whether the total gets updated over weekends- it would be nice to see the Chupacabra unleashed; they are fun little nuisances that can make for entertaining situations where you desperately try to keep them away from your Downed guys (they prefer sleeping/unconscious prey, after all!)...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on July 30, 2017, 07:52:43 AM

 :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 30, 2017, 09:25:59 AM
The total has been reached Nick just doesnt update until monday lol.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 30, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
Blood sucking scumbags for all!!!

Would be nice to get the musket rules out early. I understand that Osprey has the whip hand on this though.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 30, 2017, 10:39:09 AM
Great news!
And I'm sure Osprey won't mind about the muskets!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 30, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
That would be good news. I'm tempted to do some early games as well. Maybe down Mexico way in the 1830s-40s. Just as Drac' arrives. Also may link nastier elements to the 'Maximilian Affair'. Darker European influence via an ancient 'Austrian' family.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 30, 2017, 10:02:51 PM
That's the way to do it, if Dracula has been kicking about and other creatures exist focusing on just America in a vacuum doesn't make sense, plus Deadlands did that already lol.

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on July 30, 2017, 10:04:47 PM
Folks, we don't even have the book yet! Settle down! I'm sure there is a ton of background to explore...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 30, 2017, 10:20:05 PM
Just chewing the baccy. Means I get to use more of my terrain. Friend has lots of ww2 Russian farms and churches and I have some early 19thC Cossacks, so looks like I may even try some pre-US games as well. If the rules click with us that is.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 31, 2017, 12:16:12 AM
Ospreys ted to be background lite...which i like, less restrictive and allows my mind to wander lol.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: has.been on July 31, 2017, 09:54:08 AM
It takes very little for my mind to wan.......
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 31, 2017, 10:16:47 AM
...look squirrel!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on July 31, 2017, 01:16:22 PM
I pretty much see this as Dracula's world...... Paris...... London........ Mexico city
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on July 31, 2017, 03:57:11 PM
The fluff on first six factions is briliant. Loving it :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 31, 2017, 04:25:35 PM
Well with the Aztec love of blood ritual I'm sure Dracula certainly tried to establish there. With the help of some elements from Europe, hence the Maximillian connection. No doubt his failure pushed him north to more furtile hunting grounds and during the chaos of a civil war his chance stood out. Will chew this over more once the rules are in my hands.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 31, 2017, 07:28:28 PM
Just thought I'd quickly duck my head 'round the door to say I'm really enjoying all this speculation about what's going on in the world beyond America!

Speaking of background, Kommando_J is right- SOTW is intentionally 'light' on a definitive history beyond the 3-4 page long timeline (which takes you from 1841 up to 1875) and a few tidbits scattered here and there. This was so we could have exactly these kinds of conversations!

I'd actually quite like to go even further back in the alternate timeline- for example (and this didn't actually make it into the book) the Twilight Order was formed back in the time of the first Crusade, when the recently turned Dracula and his first vampiric minions had a hand in the terrible massacre at Ma'arrat al-Numan...

By the way, the supplements will have slightly more detailed background sections focusing on a particular region or story arc (book 3 actually goes right back to the War of Independence!)...

And of course, there is the Prohibition era- what would Dracula's America look like then?  o_o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: area23 on July 31, 2017, 07:30:08 PM
I just keep having the last scene of From Dusk till Dawn in mind; the back of the bar built on an Aztek temple...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on July 31, 2017, 07:42:45 PM
I had an idea for a Posse made up of lost soldiers from Santa Anna's army who made a pact with Xipe Totec- the Flayed One would grant them vengeance if they secured him fresh sacrifices! They would have a very interesting look- ragged and stained Mexican army uniforms coupled with Mesoamerican style golden ornaments and face masks...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 31, 2017, 07:58:50 PM
I think you have started something now :D
I'll get a few games in, see how it settles and then no doubt go crazy with spin off ideas. I was going to get a few more bits, but Northstar cart has gone wonky for me so I shall have to wait. Plenty to paint anyway.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 31, 2017, 10:17:59 PM
''I just keep having the last scene of From Dusk till Dawn in mind; the back of the bar built on an Aztek temple...''

I referenced it in the other thread about vampire prostitutes ...but nobody got ''twister de mama'' lol

I would say that America is clearly Vampire territory but what about the rest?

Demons and necromancers exist, id reckon Egypt is firmly in mummy hands lol

One thing I realized is that during this period a man every bit as wicked as fictional Dracula actually existed...but more importantly was planning during this period to court American recognition for his ''philanthropic'' colony deep in the Congo...of course Dracula would see through this dastardly king...but might be willing to bestow early recognition(in real life America did recognize the Congo but it took lots of back room dealing and generous displays over a series of years) in exchange for the Congos true main resource...people.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 31, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Leopold's Congo was indeed a 'horror'. I have figures, but not sure I'll go there, as it were. I feel the Belgians may well come a cropper at the hands of the many ghosts and spirits that haunt that land. Much of the congregation magic originates from that land.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on July 31, 2017, 10:57:35 PM
Methinks that the Belgians in my campaign will not be ruling the Congo with as iron a fist as in real life for the reasons you give, but I reckon Leopold being the dastardly bastard he is might be part of some dark pacts of his own...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on July 31, 2017, 11:50:58 PM
Well I have the game 'Congo' and it has tribal magic, so for the moment I shall stick to those rules for that game. I'll keep Drac' and his buddies in the new world for the moment. So many options my head is spinning.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 01, 2017, 02:53:20 AM
So many options my head is spinning.

EXACTLY!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on August 01, 2017, 04:31:56 AM
Same here, was planning on making another buy but the cart wouldn't work...saved about £40 quid though  lol.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on August 01, 2017, 11:03:05 AM
The beauty is with necromancy, magic, vampirism etc. you can pretty much justify using any minis from any time period before and can just be handwaved.

For my vampire coven I was considering that my men would be the thralls of a Chinese vampire inadvertently ''stolen'' by a mixed band of Americans British and French during the looting of the Summer palace 15 years previously.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on August 01, 2017, 01:04:54 PM
Congregation for my official posse, then my project: revenant scalphunters under the control of the Native shamaness who cursed them after they massacred her peaceful tribe. Inspired by Blood Meridian, native ghosts, undead scalphunters in furs and leather and skulls and bones, undead mounts, and my Native girl. Minis all sourced, ready to roll!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Matakakea on August 01, 2017, 02:55:16 PM
Quote
I had an idea for a Posse made up of lost soldiers from Santa Anna's army who made a pact with Xipe Totec- the Flayed One would grant them vengeance if they secured him fresh sacrifices! They would have a very interesting look- ragged and stained Mexican army uniforms coupled with Mesoamerican style golden ornaments and face masks


Fenrir, If you ever have the figures made for this my credit card won't know what hit it  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 01, 2017, 03:18:12 PM
Agreed, it would be a unique force, and after the Maximillian disaster I can see allsorts going on over that border area. I followers of The flayed one got any power they might think of taking back what they could from the battered post war States. Or maybe offer a lifeline to the Confeds, or join with the skin walkers. Oh the fun.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: 3 fingers on August 01, 2017, 08:36:42 PM
Dunno if it's been said but as Louisiana is very watery ,what about a deep one style cult or similar monsters could be used as stuff that's doing masters bidding? Help add variety and justify double use purchases  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 01, 2017, 09:33:09 PM
Dunno if it's been said but as Louisiana is very watery ,what about a deep one style cult or similar monsters could be used as stuff that's doing masters bidding? Help add variety and justify double use purchases  lol

Great idea! I'm gonna shamelessly steal it!  :D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 01, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
''I just keep having the last scene of From Dusk till Dawn in mind; the back of the bar built on an Aztek temple...''

A poster in my WIP Wild West Saloon:
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: SotF on August 02, 2017, 03:38:54 AM
@SOTF: 'Dogmen' will be lurking in the bayous of book 3, in the guise of the Loup-Garou. Think of them as a cross between backwoods hunters and the 'dog-faced men' (and women) from historical travelling shows...
A Sasquatch Troop would be very nice indeed- I might very well write up a Faction list for them at some point as extra material!  :) They would make great opponents for an idea I had for a clan of cannibalistic/ghoulish mountain men (a la Ravenous) lurking in the mountains and forests...

Dogmen really aren't the same as the Loup-Garou...namely that they aren't shape shifters and are pretty nasty pieces of work.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 02, 2017, 05:43:51 AM
@3 Fingers and Dinohunterpoa: **Cough**Book 3**Cough**

@SotF: You are of course quite correct- however I just wanted to play around with the lore a little- the Loup-Garou in Dracula's America are a distinct 'species' that live in clans (packs?) deep in the swamps. They are expert hunters, making use of salvaged weapons and their knowledge of the terrain to evade threats and bring down prey.

They certainly aren't shape-shifters, and they certainly are nasty pieces of work!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 02, 2017, 08:53:00 AM
Did you mean the 'dog-soldiers' of the Cheyenne? The elite fearless warriors.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: 3 fingers on August 02, 2017, 10:44:48 AM
@3 Fingers and Dinohunterpoa: **Cough**Book 3**Cough**

@SotF: You are of course quite correct- however I just wanted to play around with the lore a little- the Loup-Garou in Dracula's America are a distinct 'species' that live in clans (packs?) deep in the swamps. They are expert hunters, making use of salvaged weapons and their knowledge of the terrain to evade threats and bring down prey.

They certainly aren't shape-shifters, and they certainly are nasty pieces of work!  ;)
Hmm frostgrave gnolls ,with knives ,axes and bows possibly a few with the sci fi arms and then the weapons swapped for revolvers/shotguns/muskets?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on August 02, 2017, 12:37:01 PM
Yet another reason to make swamp terrain! Trying to decide where to set games so I can start building, get bases sorted, a board, etc.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 02, 2017, 01:07:08 PM
Due to current terrain I'm doing the swampy south for some games. Plus I couldn't resist getting some old west buildings so I will also do classic WW. Mind you I have some North African ones as well which can be used south of the border. So in fact I just need to do the frozen north, now if I just knew of a game where that was useful?
        Busy getting a nice large plantation house sorted at the moment, which I'm looking forward to playing with. Kid in a sweet shop me  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 02, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
Master Kevin Dallimore's AWESOME gallery of Dracula's America miniatures:

http://nstarmagazine.com/DRACULAS_AMERICA_SHADOWS_OF_THE_WEST_1_1.htm

 ;)

(http://nstarmagazine.com/DRACULAS_AMERICA_SHADOWS_OF_THE_WEST_1_1_htm_files/3998.jpg)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 02, 2017, 09:36:09 PM
Absolutely gorgeous paint jobs!  8)
I have bookmarked these pages as reference for when I get my figures.
Many thanks for sharing, Dinohunterpoa!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 02, 2017, 11:09:33 PM
Absolutely gorgeous paint jobs!  8)
I have bookmarked these pages as reference for when I get my figures.
Many thanks for sharing, Dinohunterpoa!  :D :D :D :D :D

Vampifan, you're always welcome, pardner! BTW: I intend to mail you some horrible vampiric creature in the next few days, as soon as I return to civilization!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 03, 2017, 08:17:42 AM
Vampifan, you're always welcome, pardner! BTW: I intend to mail you some horrible vampiric creature in the next few days, as soon as I return to civilization!  :D

That is so kind of you. Many thanks, good buddy.  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 03, 2017, 08:58:37 AM
That is so kind of you. Many thanks, good buddy.  :D :D :D :D :D

 lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 03, 2017, 10:45:46 AM
Always wondered, are the hands meant to be that size? I was planning on cutting off one hand and pinning hand with pistol anyway, but curious.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 03, 2017, 07:13:46 PM
Always wondered, are the hands meant to be that size? I was planning on cutting off one hand and pinning hand with pistol anyway, but curious.

IMHO the sculpt has big hands and heavily muscular arms to let clear that that lovely dancer isn't human anymore, but already deep in the process of changing into something really monstrous...  ;) Her stance is also totally... PREDATORY! I am planning to add long claws to my mini in order to emphasize her new wild condition as well!  ;D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Smith on August 04, 2017, 09:52:57 AM
I had an idea for a Posse made up of lost soldiers from Santa Anna's army who made a pact with Xipe Totec- the Flayed One would grant them vengeance if they secured him fresh sacrifices! They would have a very interesting look- ragged and stained Mexican army uniforms coupled with Mesoamerican style golden ornaments and face masks...

I approve (but, of course I would (http://plasticmalpractice.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/viva-tezcatlipoca-viva-mexico.html)).
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 04, 2017, 05:28:47 PM
I approve (but, of course I would (http://plasticmalpractice.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/viva-tezcatlipoca-viva-mexico.html)).

Smith, I liked very much your take on Weird Mexico!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 07, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
Well mine's been dispatched, so now to wait and see if it lives up to the hype we made for it! Hope so as I just made a lot of terrain for this.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 07, 2017, 12:37:48 PM
I, too, have had notification from North Star that my order has been dispatched.  :D
I'm very excited and I  can't wait for it to arrive.  :P
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 07, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
Can't wait to see what Phil Smith does 'south of the border' with his stuff. Very tempted to head that way myself.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 07, 2017, 02:45:55 PM
Can't wait to see what Phil Smith does 'south of the border' with his stuff. Very tempted to head that way myself.

It is very tempting isn’t it?  But then again it has everything
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Matakakea on August 07, 2017, 04:33:00 PM
I'm impressed. They posted a photo the newly arrived boxes this morning, showing the piles of books inside one. Four hours later an e-mail arrives to tell me my order has been dispatched  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 07, 2017, 06:21:03 PM
I'm impressed. They posted a photo the newly arrived boxes this morning, showing the piles of books inside one. Four hours later an e-mail arrives to tell me my order has been dispatched  :D

North Star is the BEST!  ;)

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20622262_331221503992308_2878332053212912064_n.jpg?oh=02fc7973cd06e5651e60ebf4fa326be8&oe=5A358CD2)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 08, 2017, 11:08:15 AM
Seems to be getting positive reviews at the moment. Just hope my games group gets to grip with it. Shooting and double crossing, how could they not!?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on August 09, 2017, 07:01:46 PM
Just got my copy and the first on my minis in(made two orders) some thoughts...

1. The quality of the book itself struck me first off, excellent production vales in excess of Ospreys usual ''blue book'' style.

2. Some fantastic artwork, in particular the abyssal behemoth looks quite demonic.

3. Interesting variety of equipment, hired guns etc.

4. I like how the supernatural rules are separate add-ons.

5. At first I thought the no duplicates weapon rule to be odd...but give my experience of skirmish games, limiting long guns will stop things turning into long range sniping matches(also its much fluffier).

The mini quality has been good so far, one slight miscast but not beyond my abilities with file to repair.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 09, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Mine has arrived. A few minor casting issues here too. None a knife can't sort. The fledgling vampires hands don't look too big in real life, she looks a well sculpted figure (in all ways)
Time to go read... ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on August 09, 2017, 09:51:12 PM
Quick question, for red hand coven is it two broodkin or one broodsire or one broodkin and one broodsire if you nominate your leader?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 09, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Mine is still crossing the Atlantic, but soon!

Glad to hear people are liking what they are seeing.

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 10, 2017, 05:36:10 AM
@Mweaver: Not half as glad as me!  ;) Hope you folks across the Pond get your books soon.

@Kommando_J: It's two Broodkin, one of which will be a Broodsire if you 'upgrade' your Boss in this way. This has no extra benefit in game-terms (beyond your Boss having a better Grit to start with), it's purely for 'fluff' reasons!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 10, 2017, 07:47:30 PM
Still chewing the rules and sorting how my scarecrows are going to make an arrival. Even got some crows to add. Now need to find some cheap zombicide murder of crows to add to the nasty beasties.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 10, 2017, 09:40:25 PM
I received my parcel today, which contained the rulebook, the dice and all of the figures. First impressions are highly favourable. I am really impressed and very pleased indeed. A big thumbs up to Fenrir!  :D :D :D :D :D

I'm now looking forward to reading the rulebook and to start painting the figures. 8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 10, 2017, 10:34:07 PM
I received my parcel today, which contained the rulebook, the dice and all of the figures. First impressions are highly favourable. I am really impressed and very pleased indeed. A big thumbs up to Fenrir!  :D :D :D :D :D

I'm now looking forward to reading the rulebook and to start painting the figures. 8)

Happiness travels by mail sometimes!  :D

Looking forward for your review!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 11, 2017, 05:06:42 AM
@Dartfrog: Looking forward to seeing those scarecrows!

@Vampifan: You are too kind, sir- hope the game lives up to your first impressions!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mr Brown on August 13, 2017, 12:12:19 PM
Unfortunately my Nickstarter didnt turn up before I had to leave for a work trip. Fingers crossed it'll be sitting waiting for my return. Got a stack of scenery to put together from TT Combat and then I'll be good to go.

Planning on running a few games at the local club and see if I can get a campaign started. Really looking forward to seeing if I can drum up some local hype. Always been a fan of 'Western' games and being able to throw in Gothic Horror elements is just icing on an already pretty sweet cake :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 13, 2017, 12:17:04 PM
Got our first 'practice' game on Monday. Keen to see how it survives contact with players.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 13, 2017, 01:46:27 PM
Battle report!  Battle report!  Battle report!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 13, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
I have just posted my review of Dracula's America on my blog. See here -
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/draculas-america-shadows-of-west.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/draculas-america-shadows-of-west.html)
In short, I love it!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 13, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
Good review. I had to go into town and pick up 2 more packs of playing cards. Game is no doubt going to be an ad-hock sort of thing as we will be wrapping our heads around the rules and game play.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 14, 2017, 09:39:21 AM
 got book Friday but alas no figures. but  mulled over it  over the weekend

so far great book, rules seem simple fast paced and light-hearted.  true bit light on fluff on factions  but the artwork is great ad allows a great freedom

my fears about the long arms cap seems to be have missed placed, however, if you were doing military pose there might struggle.

going to our first game tonight
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 14, 2017, 04:44:51 PM
I have just posted my review of Dracula's America on my blog. See here -
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/draculas-america-shadows-of-west.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/draculas-america-shadows-of-west.html)
In short, I love it!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Great review as always, mate!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 14, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
Dracula's America OFFICIAL QUICK REFERENCE SHEET:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2UGzFKyUbhOam9FaDRyNmlzdms/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2UGzFKyUbhOam9FaDRyNmlzdms/view)

 ;)

Annie's Vampire Hunters
(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20776378_10154517599351315_7690991706415052010_o.jpg?oh=3c74646429e9d63b3bd7b905ed16dd3f&oe=5A30C6A9)


Master Kev Dallimore's Pale Rider:
(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20645438_1428252560599875_6107289023291316404_o.jpg?oh=b3e33b36bb38b2a09b8ad21a5a892581&oe=5A1CB220)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 14, 2017, 05:52:19 PM
Many thanks for that Quick Reference Sheet, Dinohunterpoa!  :D
I printed it out as soon as I saw your post.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 14, 2017, 06:39:50 PM
Many thanks for that Quick Reference Sheet, Dinohunterpoa!  :D
I printed it out as soon as I saw your post.  :)

Mate, they made A MOVIE about the game, called VAMPIRE WARS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAGyJ_rzZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAGyJ_rzZY)

 :D



Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 14, 2017, 09:26:38 PM
Mate, they made A MOVIE about the game, called VAMPIRE WARS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAGyJ_rzZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAGyJ_rzZY)

 :D

Crikey, that looks EXACTLY like Dracula's America!  :o

A must see movie for me!  :D

Good find, pardner!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on August 14, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
Wow! Searching now!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 14, 2017, 10:55:21 PM
Well looks like a 'B' movie. I'd still watch it.
Played our first trial game. Used a 5'x7' table with 3 players. Thought the table might be too large, but seemed to work fine. Game play went well. My Congregation got slaughtered and the Bounty hunters took a mauling, so the day went to Sam's Dad and his evil Confeds'. Everyone seemed to enjoy the game so time to storm on and plan some real games.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 15, 2017, 01:23:09 AM
Crikey, that looks EXACTLY like Dracula's America!  :o

A must see movie for me!  :D

Good find, pardner!  :D :D :D :D :D

They've done this movie for us DA's gamers, no doubt about that!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 15, 2017, 03:19:13 AM
KD's Pale Rider looks brilliant!

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 15, 2017, 07:09:30 AM
Rules questions from our first game yesterday, which was excellent:

- Shaken condition: there is no effect for Novice models as they already only roll d6 and you roll min. d6 types of dice. Can this really be true? Getting rid of the Shaken condition is not easy, so a Veteran model will quickly find themselves no better than a Novice. It can't be right that the Novice models are the only ones not getting a disadvantage from Shaken, but that is the way we read the rules.

- Once engaged in a Fight: can you use a ranged weapon and thereby gain an extra dice because of range, or is it always a 3 dice roll, modified by specific rules?
Re-rolling: If you roll a max on a die a 6 on a d6 for instance you get to re-roll a failed die - so far so good. But what if that re-roll is also a max, does that generate another re-roll, which might be used to re-roll another failed die?

- Move and Fight: If you double Move into engagement, do you gain a free Fight action immediately?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 15, 2017, 07:16:32 AM
We noticed the 'shaken' rule as well. One of the posse had leadbelly. we found that made a massive difference. Will play the rules as written for a while however may play a house rule about shaken if we find it a problem.

As for the fighting I believe it's 3 dice unless you have a bonus like derringer or a sodding big axe.

I believe you get a free attack if you charge into a fight.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 15, 2017, 08:44:00 AM
@Saucy Jack: Yep, the lowest Die type is a D6, it's not possible to get any worse- otherwise a Shaken Novice would not be getting any Dice to roll at all! I certainly do see your (and Dartfrog's) point, but during early play-testing it was found that Veterans and Heroes were veritable one-man armies (especially when various Skills like Tough were taken into account) that in one-off games folks just took the same small, elite Posses with better equipment, which was a bit boring. Also, in a Campaign it could mean that an unlucky Posse filled with Novices got steam-rollered by a more elite opponent! The degradation of their abilities due to injury was simply to rein Veterans and Heroes in a bit. They are still much better than Novices; they just need to beware of getting ganged-up on by a mob and ground down!

Ranged Weapons cannot be used in a Fight- apologies, it seems that somehow I missed this simple caveat!  >:( It's sort of implied by the Close Work Skill and the wording for 'Contact' (page 9), but it really should have been explicitly stated! Once you are engaged with an enemy, you must either Fight them or try to disengage.

Re-rolling- yep, as long as you keep rolling the max and you never re-roll any single Die more than once (page 9), you can potentially re-roll all of them if you hit a lucky streak!

Dartfrog has the right of it- any Move that brings you into Contact with an enemy that you could see at the start of that Action is a Charge (page 20), and grants you a free Fight Action at +1 Die.

Hope that all helps, and extremely relieved that people seem to be enjoying their first games so far! **Goes back to kicking himself RE Ranged Weapons in a Fight**
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 15, 2017, 09:40:53 AM
We all loved the card driven initiative system. Lead to some sun stand offs and groans as cards we shown. I can see how the hero types can get 'all powerful'. As I said we will play the rules as written and if the shaken gets annoying for the players we would allow a roll like the downed rule at end of phase. It's a long shot type roll but worth a chuck type thing.
          In our game the evil Col' of the confeds was downed and the very next roll he made was 3 success on his roll. Up on his feet and off he went! He's gained some enemies has that guy!

Oh, I was using muskets for some of the congregation troops as those were what I had from Congo. Range as per carbine and jam of d6. It made a big difference that d6 jam!

Overall I'd give it a thumbs up and we are keen to get more games in again soon. I would post some pics, but it's a big faff for a techno-fool like me.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 15, 2017, 12:13:15 PM
Thank you for the replies @fenrir - you really have created a wonderful game  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 15, 2017, 02:54:55 PM
Thank you for the replies @fenrir - you really have created a wonderful game  :)

+1!   :-*

Fenrir has not only created a GREAT game - fun, well designed and versatile - but is always around to answer our questions as well - both rare things in the game industry!  :D

Fenrir, please keep doing that AMAZING job of yours! And now please just run back to your workstation and keep working on the next Dracula's America supplements!  ;)

(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/6851379/like_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 15, 2017, 09:06:35 PM
@Dartfrog: Really glad to hear you liked the card mechanics- it's definitely one of the things I'm happiest with!

As for Shaken- well an alternate version I tried out before settling on the final rules was just suffering a -1 Die Modifier to all Tests (obviously to a minimum of 1); so you could maybe give that a try if you want to give the elite guys a slightly easier time of it in the future!

And recovering from being Downed isn't always easy to pull off- but when you get those 3 magical Successes it's so sweet...  lol

Nice Musket rules, too- the version that's in Hunting Grounds right now is basically a cheap Carbine, but needs reloading after each shot... If you fancy play-testing it then feel free- meanwhile, I'll give your version a try and we can compare notes!

@Saucy Jack: Thanks very much, my friend- I can't tell you how relieved I am that folks seem to be enjoying it so far!..  :D

@Dinohunterpoa: Again, thanks a lot for the kind words and the support on the forums- I guess that since this is my first published game I have the luxury of being able to focus more time on it here!
I'm currently working on some 'bonus material' that will hopefully see the light of day on the Osprey site and/or in magazines at some point in the future... I can't say too much right now, but Red Hand players should find some of it of interest!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 15, 2017, 09:25:59 PM
I'm currently working on some 'bonus material' that will hopefully see the light of day on the Osprey site and/or in magazines at some point in the future... I can't say too much right now, but Red Hand players should find some of it of interest!  ;)

YESSS!!!  :-*

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Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 16, 2017, 08:16:33 AM
I concur with my learned colleague. Bring it on!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 16, 2017, 09:52:32 AM
@Dartfrog: Really glad to hear you liked the card mechanics- it's definitely one of the things I'm happiest with!

As for Shaken- well an alternate version I tried out before settling on the final rules was just suffering a -1 Die Modifier to all Tests (obviously to a minimum of 1); so you could maybe give that a try if you want to give the elite guys a slightly easier time of it in the future!

And recovering from being Downed isn't always easy to pull off- but when you get those 3 magical Successes it's so sweet...  lol

Nice Musket rules, too- the version that's in Hunting Grounds right now is basically a cheap Carbine, but needs reloading after each shot... If you fancy play-testing it then feel free- meanwhile, I'll give your version a try and we can compare notes!

@Saucy Jack: Thanks very much, my friend- I can't tell you how relieved I am that folks seem to be enjoying it so far!..  :D

@Dinohunterpoa: Again, thanks a lot for the kind words and the support on the forums- I guess that since this is my first published game I have the luxury of being able to focus more time on it here!
I'm currently working on some 'bonus material' that will hopefully see the light of day on the Osprey site and/or in magazines at some point in the future... I can't say too much right now, but Red Hand players should find some of it of interest!  ;)

That is what we talked about doing. :o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 16, 2017, 11:58:48 AM
thoughts about doors and ladders

 so doors we are playing the following rules all doors are  assumed to be open and unlocked, and don't effect movement

doors can be locked and cost one action to do so

locked doors, can be forced by a successful a fight test against the door using D6

ladders:

so ladders under 4 inches cost  one movement to go up or down, ladders over 4 inches two movement to go up or down

models can choose to pause on a ladder.

models can only shoot pistol type weapons from ladders

models on ladders being shot at count as giving the shooter model the  backshooter bonus

(gods my english is getting poorer by the day..)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Grimjack on August 16, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
Fenrir, one thing has come up for us - there are no close combat weapons in the game, so if a character has a sword stick, club, cavalry sabre, etc., they receive no bonus?

Will this be tackled in one of the supplements, especially when you add the Tongs and Native Americans?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 16, 2017, 12:59:20 PM
I have assumed most fighters will have access to at least a knife/butt/hatchet etc, however yes we will need weapons such as sabres and spears for some fights. I recall this is coming in a later supplement.

At the moment I'm okay with the shaken rule at the moment. May add to it if we feel. Rather like the fact if your shot up bad your out for the count. Makes to shoot out a bit more scary for all.

Next stop is sorting some mounted for our games.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 16, 2017, 03:55:53 PM
@DeltaBlue: Love those ideas- I'm going to try out your door rules next chance I get!

@Grimjack: Yep, SOTW assumes everybody has some kind of close combat weapon- be that a sabre, a hatchet or whatever- and this is folded in to the basic Fight rules, to allow us to focus on all the gun-fighting!..

...However! Hunting Grounds (the first supplement for Dracula's America) does indeed include specific rules for swords, spears and two-handed weapons- we've got you covered!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 17, 2017, 10:08:50 AM

@Fenrir thank you, please do.

though I have got a question about shotguns  we had situation arose during last night's game

my younger brother tom's choose to fire his posse boss's shotgun at my sister dan(Diana) bloodkin boss

so shot and weapon declared distance measured found to be 12 inches

 so am I right in thinking  first its   -1 dice for long range then - 1 dice further for the shotgun special rule
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 17, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
@DeltaBlue: You are quite correct- your brother would lose 1 Die for Long Range and drop a further Die for using a shotgun at Long Range.
The reverse is also true, of course- plus 1 Die for Short Range, and an extra Die for being a shotgun at Short Range!

There's not much that can beat a shotgun close-up- during play-testing, the record was 7 Dice : 3 Dice basic, +1 Short Range, +1 shotgun, +1 Back-Shooter and +1 Elevated Position!  >:D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: sams dad on August 17, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
 
Battle report!  Battle report!  Battle report!
dartfrogs game on monday night
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AMiXmf8gdgg/WZXmihnY2gI/AAAAAAAABO8/4iDf4Wcu2NAEd_JmRhxBs6anZl7v-QIgQCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0579.JPG)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xXFwa40eNZg/WZXlGuG9FjI/AAAAAAAABOo/QxNjSZBErt0Bq64T7RwZ6DWEW34I0TGcACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0582.JPG)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tUN31LVUack/WZXknOTtMeI/AAAAAAAABOc/KfUdjVBilHwtH1sxEmuZh2phyptuBkb3wCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0570.JPG)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QtmsGlaLK1U/WZXlZ7pdjbI/AAAAAAAABOw/GWL-soq_h5cNTwBkBf8H1FWMcpvSKxCZACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0591.JPG)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-no2qr9Mm55Q/WZXkyBM6UnI/AAAAAAAABOg/SCuT1cfRPewVQXiZM1inDZO5gFmbkLTIACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0578.JPG)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Vt-scIhnR1I/WZXk_lxvDnI/AAAAAAAABOk/mDzT6H1NzYUQjG-_j-uu0TQXaZZBqUjHACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0592.JPG)
dartfrog can add detail.The important bit is that it was a resounding win for the sons of the south :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on August 17, 2017, 08:00:06 PM
dartfrogs game on monday night
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AMiXmf8gdgg/WZXmihnY2gI/AAAAAAAABO8/4iDf4Wcu2NAEd_JmRhxBs6anZl7v-QIgQCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0579.JPG)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xXFwa40eNZg/WZXlGuG9FjI/AAAAAAAABOo/QxNjSZBErt0Bq64T7RwZ6DWEW34I0TGcACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0582.JPG)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tUN31LVUack/WZXknOTtMeI/AAAAAAAABOc/KfUdjVBilHwtH1sxEmuZh2phyptuBkb3wCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0570.JPG)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QtmsGlaLK1U/WZXlZ7pdjbI/AAAAAAAABOw/GWL-soq_h5cNTwBkBf8H1FWMcpvSKxCZACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0591.JPG)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-no2qr9Mm55Q/WZXkyBM6UnI/AAAAAAAABOg/SCuT1cfRPewVQXiZM1inDZO5gFmbkLTIACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0578.JPG)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Vt-scIhnR1I/WZXk_lxvDnI/AAAAAAAABOk/mDzT6H1NzYUQjG-_j-uu0TQXaZZBqUjHACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0592.JPG)
dartfrog can add detail.The important bit is that it was a resounding win for the sons of the south :D
That board looks incredible. Can you tell us how the corn field and hay bale were made please? Also, congrats on the win.

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 17, 2017, 09:10:25 PM

AWESOME scenery, Gentlemen, CONGRATULATIONS!!!  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 17, 2017, 09:11:21 PM
It wasn't a win. It was slaughter aided by the bounty hunter scum! Game went well and even worked well on the size of board we went for, about 5x7 something like that.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 17, 2017, 09:20:13 PM
Most of the terrain was Sam's dads Russian front stuff, with what I could shove in a bag a take over thrown amongst it along with a few hastely painted figures. Many thanks to our host and the other scurvy player who shot the congregation. Looking forward to many more games. For details on the terrain I pass you to Sam's dad and his blog.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 17, 2017, 09:34:45 PM
Looks like a fun game!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on August 18, 2017, 03:05:44 AM
Most of the terrain was Sam's dads Russian front stuff, with what I could shove in a bag a take over thrown amongst it along with a few hastely painted figures. Many thanks to our host and the other scurvy player who shot the congregation. Looking forward to many more games. For details on the terrain I pass you to Sam's dad and his blog.

Do you have a link for the blog?

Thanks,

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 18, 2017, 06:47:25 AM
Another question @fenrir:

- Is each posse limited to one Arcanist? I am asking because The Congregation miniatures include a mambo, hougan and bokor - and I would like to use all three miniatures as Arcanists.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 18, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
@ dartfrog and Sam's dad: truly epic looking game  but tell me who's the "bounty hunter scum!"

@ Fenrir thank you, though we haven't that number of dice yet. but we have a few funny instances

my sister's activated two figures in a turn first was her   vamp boss  who was in combat won that fight and shoved  my younger brother Phil's skinwalker chief off a mine walkway, he survived the fall (barely) down to only have Diana other vamp feed on him.

and we've had a harbinger survive being shot at by three models with six guns with silver bullets in a row only to taken down by a bow at short range
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 18, 2017, 04:19:31 PM
@Sam's Dad / Dartfrog: brilliant looking set-up, and kudos on getting some actual Dracula's America figures painted in a short space of time! I admit I never envisaged the game being played on anything beyond a 4x4 table- but I'm glad to hear it seemed to work alright... Out of interest, did the movement distances not seem a little too short, or did you increase the deployment zones?

@Saucy Jack: I'm afraid it's technically one Arcanist per Posse... However, you could always take a Maverick Arcanist Hired Gun and just use one of those models for him/her? Book 3 has rules for a new Bokor Hired Gun, so eventually you will be able to use all 3 models as the Congregation intended! Until then, your spare 'Arcanist' will have to content themselves as just another Posse-member, I fear!  :'(
...Of course, if your opponents are happy to allow it then just buy several Grimoires, ignore the Arcanist cap, and have at it!

@DeltaBlue: Brilliant stuff- I love all the amusing/ridiculous things that can potentially occur during play- it's good to hear other folks are already having fun with DA!  :D  Was the Skinwalker Chief actually in Beast Form when he got shoved off the walkway?!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: sams dad on August 18, 2017, 05:00:16 PM
(Can you tell us how the corn field and hay bale were made please)
the corn field is made of JTT SCENERY 95553 2" CORN STALKS O-SCALE ,and the hay stack is an old ready soup container covered in pva gloo and cover with coco nut fibers from a door mat
(  but tell me who's the "bounty hunter scum!")he is short and round and walks close to the ground ,and his name is larry
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: axabrax on August 18, 2017, 06:44:01 PM
Cool!!!

dartfrogs game on monday night
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AMiXmf8gdgg/WZXmihnY2gI/AAAAAAAABO8/4iDf4Wcu2NAEd_JmRhxBs6anZl7v-QIgQCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0579.JPG)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xXFwa40eNZg/WZXlGuG9FjI/AAAAAAAABOo/QxNjSZBErt0Bq64T7RwZ6DWEW34I0TGcACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0582.JPG)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tUN31LVUack/WZXknOTtMeI/AAAAAAAABOc/KfUdjVBilHwtH1sxEmuZh2phyptuBkb3wCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0570.JPG)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QtmsGlaLK1U/WZXlZ7pdjbI/AAAAAAAABOw/GWL-soq_h5cNTwBkBf8H1FWMcpvSKxCZACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0591.JPG)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-no2qr9Mm55Q/WZXkyBM6UnI/AAAAAAAABOg/SCuT1cfRPewVQXiZM1inDZO5gFmbkLTIACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0578.JPG)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Vt-scIhnR1I/WZXk_lxvDnI/AAAAAAAABOk/mDzT6H1NzYUQjG-_j-uu0TQXaZZBqUjHACLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_0592.JPG)
dartfrog can add detail.The important bit is that it was a resounding win for the sons of the south :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on August 18, 2017, 08:06:26 PM
(Can you tell us how the corn field and hay bale were made please)
the corn field is made of JTT SCENERY 95553 2" CORN STALKS O-SCALE ,and the hay stack is an old ready soup container covered in pva gloo and cover with coco nut fibers from a door mat
(  but tell me who's the "bounty hunter scum!")he is short and round and walks close to the ground ,and his name is larry

Thank You sir for the answers on the corn field and hay bale. Once again, They along with your entire board, look great.

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 18, 2017, 11:00:41 PM
I did wonder about the move rate on our board size, but decided to keep to the rules for our first batch of games. In fact I didn't find the 4" move to much of a problem at all! I was shocked. I think as we had plenty of time we didn't have a time pressure to the game, that and if we wanted to get a stride on we just allocated both actions to a figure to get a trot on. I think we started about 6" or so in.
          The 'bounty hunter scum' that was Larry was a basic group with a hero a veteran and a bunch of novice thugs from up North. I didn't want to get too complicated on the first game. One rule I forgot until the llast few turns was the 'reroll on a max dice' must remember that one!
         Many of the figures still need finishing, but were good enough to playtest with. The 'Col' was the freebie one I got on the kickstarter as a limited edition. So of coarse I hacked off his hand and gave him a pistol from statuesque miniatures.
         Next stop is some mounted guys and the plantation house.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 18, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
       Next stop is some mounted guys and the plantation house.

Looking forward to see them!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on August 19, 2017, 02:26:06 AM
Next stop is some mounted guys and the plantation house.

I too, look forward to seeing those.

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 19, 2017, 05:52:05 AM
In our rpg group we have just decided to play Deadlands agsin, using the SW mechanics but changing the setting background to Dracula's America.

The player posse will not immediately belong to one of the factions, but is a normal gunslinger faction.

Re-reading the pages with timeline, I noticed it said the ravaged South. So are we to understand that the South has been more destroyed than it was in real life in 1865?

Anyone who has any suggestions on how to handle a Dracula's America rpg feel free to reply.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Old-N-Busted on August 19, 2017, 06:58:04 AM
Super game but don.t go into the corn field have you seen Dead Birds ! lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 19, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
I have in fact seen 'dead birds'. It was recommended on this very forum. Rather enjoyed it. Not saying it influenced me in any way, but . . .
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 19, 2017, 05:45:33 PM
@Saucy Jack: Yup, in the Dracula's America timeline the South is an utterly devastated wasteland- Sherman's March to the Sea was even more thorough than in real life! Rumours that Sherman was Turned by Dracula prior to this are still completely unsubstantiated... By '75, the few survivors eke out a meagre living in shanty towns in the heart of the swamps and amongst the ruins of various cities, towns and plantations- mainly trying to steer clear of Dark Confederacy patrols and their fierce clashes with The Congregation and Lee's Free South Movement! Oh, and book 3 will focus in on this dismal region and it's denizens in more detail.

Really intrigued by your idea of transplanting your Deadlands RPG into Dracula's America- let us know how you get on!  :)

@All: Oh aye; and if anybody is off to Partizan tomorrow (Sunday 20th August), stop by Northstar's stand where I'll be demoing DA and say howdy- I'd be happy to have a chat about the game and/or it's setting!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 21, 2017, 10:37:16 AM

@DeltaBlue: Brilliant stuff- I love all the amusing/ridiculous things that can potentially occur during play- it's good to hear other folks are already having fun with DA!  :D  Was the Skinwalker Chief actually in Beast Form when he got shoved off the walkway?!
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@Fenrir: no he had changed to go up a series of ladders as we were playing across different levels of a mine, but I will try to keep of abreast of amusing and ridiculous
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 21, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
My swag arrived today.  Very handsome book!  The campaign system reminds me of the old Mordheim rules - my favorite skirmish game to date (in large part because it had such a simple but elegant campaign system).  Haven't looked at the figures yet (waiting for aardtacha to arrive home from work).  We have been playing Shadows of Brimstone heavily of late, so DA should fit the current mood.  Of course we do play pretty much only collaborative games, but we can figure something out (we have played collaborative Mordheim campaigns many times through the years). 

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: TellWaadt on August 24, 2017, 12:28:41 PM
A little question: When you align your posse to one of the factions, you get skills (free upgrades) for approximately 50$ (or more if you choose the Hero or Veterans to be the supernatural creature): Would it be therefore balanced to give normal posse 150$ (+ 1 hero) to start with?
Regards
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 25, 2017, 03:56:18 AM
A few more rules questions that someone posted on FB:
Hi, a few quick questions have come to mind before I try out my first game...
1. If I make a move action to charge an enemy and get a free fight action, can I issue another fight action as my 2nd action after the first fight?
2. If I move 4" round a corner into an enemy, do I just move into contact(engage) without a free fight action as I couldn't see them at the start of the turn?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 25, 2017, 05:09:43 AM
@Tellwaadt: An interesting question! For now, I'd say that sounds about right- though I'd be wary of allowing a second Hero Rank model... I assume you are talking about a one-off game using the advanced Posse creation system?
You aren't the only person to ask about fielding a regular Posse against Supernatural opponents, so this is definitely something that warrants looking at and play-testing. Try your idea, and let me know how you get on!  :)

@Saucy Jack:
1: Yes, if you have two Actions and you Charge an enemy with the first you may make another Fight Action with your second Action. If things go well and you take the first opponent out, you could potentially perform a Charge with the second Action and effectively get 4 Actions in one Activation (two Moves and two free Fights)- those Skinwalkers can be brutal!
2: Again yes: As the rules state on page 20, you must be able to see your Target at the start of the Move Action to be able to Charge them- otherwise, you count as simply engaging them and you won't get the free Fight!

I'm working on getting a Facebook account up and running purely so that I can get on to the Player's Page and answer folks' questions directly, so bear with me- and thanks for relaying them to me here in the meantime!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 25, 2017, 08:13:12 AM
As a non facebooker I'm happy to see you here!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on August 25, 2017, 08:39:11 AM
As a non facebooker I'm happy to see you here!

Ditto!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 25, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Excellent - thank you @fenrir.

We will be starting our first campaign game this evening. This time with fully painted models!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: TellWaadt on August 25, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Thanks a lot, we will try and keep you informed.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 25, 2017, 10:43:41 AM
I'm working on getting a Facebook account up and running purely so that I can get on to the Player's Page and answer folks' questions directly, so bear with me- and thanks for relaying them to me here in the meantime!  8)

Fenrir, BE WARNED: most of those FB guys are WEIRDOS!  :o

Nothing like old and nice LAF people!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 25, 2017, 11:40:26 AM
Also not a Facebook person, so don't be a stranger!

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 25, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
All: Thanks, folks! Well, it looks like Facebook doesn't want me- seems to think I'm impersonating myself or some nonsense- so I guess you're stuck with me here! Though I am thinking about maybe setting up a blog or something...

@Saucy Jack: Let us know how the game goes!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 25, 2017, 08:49:16 PM
Though I am thinking about maybe setting up a blog or something...

PERFECT!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 25, 2017, 10:45:35 PM
See it's not all evil, facebook did you a service and refused you. Well done!

Looks like we may have a 4 player game this Monday, if I can paint fast!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Michi on August 26, 2017, 08:24:16 AM
I had my first game the night before and it was great. I already played several Western rules and yours are simple and quick. DA will certainly stay with us for the genre, although we haven´t included the supernatural aspect yet. This will of course be only a matter of time...  ;) I dug out more crates and barrels to paint for cover immediately after the game and I also have more than a few gunslingers in the lead pile to come. Time to finish the last of my Congo miniatures to get into Weird West again!  :D
Thank you for a good set of rules!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 26, 2017, 07:17:46 PM
Played our first campaign yesterday and had so much fun - will post some pictures and more info in the next few days.

Another few questions came up during the games:

1) If your boss gets Laid Up is it possible to recruit new members?
2)Fearsome skill: When exactly are opponents supposed to roll the Nerve test, when they make a Fight attack and/or when they defend a Fight attack?
3) If a model becomes Downed and then falls from an edge and receives another Downed result, does he become a Casualty?
4) If you are in melee is it possible to make two Fight attacks in an activation?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on August 27, 2017, 06:49:00 AM
@Dartfrog: Looking forward to hearing about your 4-player game- you'll find that the card mechanic really comes into it's own the more players you have!

@Michi: Thank you very much for the kind words!  :D

@Saucy Jack: Glad you're enjoying it so far- don't forget to post up those pictures and info!

1) If your Boss is Laid-Up then you can still roll for Recruitment using their Grit Die- it's not so much that the Boss is actively looking for new blood themselves (he/she has henchmen to do all the legwork, after all!), it's more a representation of their fame drawing in new recruits from far and wide. This should have been stated explicitly, so apologies for the confusion!

2) As stated in the Skill's description, the effects of Fearsome kick in every time an enemy model Fights you- in other words, the Fearsome model must be the Defender. Note also that this includes the 'free' Fight granted by a Charge. Just so we're clear, a model Defending against a Fearsome Attacker does not have to Test their Nerve, as they are too busy fighting for their life to have time for any doubts!

3) Oh yes indeed! You can make as many Fight Actions in one Activation as you have Actions available- though against a Fearsome enemy, each Fight you perform against them would require a separate Nerve Test.

Keep them coming!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Tracy George on August 27, 2017, 04:58:02 PM
For those that may not have seen the post on Facebook I did a pretty in-depth review of Dracula's America. The link is here:
https://youtu.be/MenBDbH_mlU (https://youtu.be/MenBDbH_mlU)
Thanks.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Tracy George on August 27, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
I have played this game several times. Once with four players. Really am enjoying this system. Finally got to play a game where we tried our factions powers. Can't wait to start a campaign of DA!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on August 27, 2017, 06:45:57 PM
I have finished reading the rules and as the Dude says: "it's fun man!" Really looking forward to put DA on the table.

Fenrir, please join FB even with a nickname. It will be appretiated by members of the FB group and you will be certainly awarded by all those amazing pictures and battle reports. Author's presence on FB is quite useful and encouraging for the players, as proves Frostgrave Joe and others.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on August 27, 2017, 06:56:16 PM
As promised some images from our game(s) on Friday.

Many many more images on my blog: http://londonbymidnight.blogspot.dk/2017/08/draculas-america-first-campaign-games.html (http://londonbymidnight.blogspot.dk/2017/08/draculas-america-first-campaign-games.html)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zy3asGeQaaQ/WaMS77LtT5I/AAAAAAAADdo/n7e9HhLVh2Qa6ZCM0YBuTC8cv1E6D3YJwCLcBGAs/s640/IMG_20170825_185202.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pDbwahpzbtw/WaMTAhPbr2I/AAAAAAAADd0/8LuativbSys9VRJxpbXUVp-il64WhU_VACLcBGAs/s640/IMG_20170825_185827.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--VdtxEOYInk/WaMTBPL2G1I/AAAAAAAADd4/9lhd-fZl5dkXAoMIrkIT20xA2cadezc4gCLcBGAs/s640/IMG_20170825_185839.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JQ3Ib-O62Tc/WaMTQjErURI/AAAAAAAADec/U4r1w-aeK0MCmyumq43ZU_2pqQoRb9NlACLcBGAs/s640/IMG_20170825_194226.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gvmvNr4yWjA/WaMTnjuzM_I/AAAAAAAADfU/nAqPQVHLNSsR7kzVFA-vOFWtoJKU_2p-wCLcBGAs/s640/IMG_20170825_204121.jpg)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on August 27, 2017, 08:26:51 PM

Saucy Jack, GREAT scenery and minis as usual, CONGRATULATIONS!  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 27, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
Wow! Looking great there. Loverly board and figures. Nice to see what's happening elsewhere in the DA world.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mweaver on August 28, 2017, 12:09:39 AM
Thanks for sharing, Saucy Jack.  Looking good!

-Michael
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Michi on August 31, 2017, 07:39:56 AM
Perhaps this was asked before, but I´d appreciate if anybody could help me:
The rules say that a re-roll of another die (that hasn't been re-rolled yet) is allowed on a die roll showing maximum result (e.g. 6 on a D6). Is it allowed to re-roll another die (if available) if the re-rolled result will show another maximum result?  :?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: DeltaBlue on August 31, 2017, 10:13:44 AM
Perhaps this was asked before, but I´d appreciate if anybody could help me:
The rules say that a re-roll of another die (that hasn't been re-rolled yet) is allowed on a die roll showing maximum result (e.g. 6 on a D6). Is it allowed to re-roll another die (if available) if the re-rolled result will show another maximum result?  :?

yes you can re-roll a max result so in effect if you get a 6 and re-roll and get a 6 you can re-roll that 6

in game situations we've had 4 6's in a row from re-roll, which lead to a novice gunning down big foot
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: robbie7 on August 31, 2017, 10:25:19 AM
Hi Jonathan
Lovely set of rules which we hope to try out at the Lancaster club in the next few weeks.
 
In Posse creation (the simple version) it states that you can only have two of each weapon in your Posse except for Pistols. The example is eg two rifles and two shotguns. Rifles and Carbines are in the weapons stats ... so could you have two Carbines and two rifles in your posse or did you intend it to be two long ranged weapons only.
 
Rob
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Michi on August 31, 2017, 11:54:10 AM
yes you can re-roll a max result so in effect if you get a 6 and re-roll and get a 6 you can re-roll that 6

in game situations we've had 4 6's in a row from re-roll, which lead to a novice gunning down big foot

Thank you! This will help.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mindenbrush on August 31, 2017, 08:24:07 PM
Just received a batch of the DA figures from Northstar that I will be painting for a friend, somehow I ended up ordering the complete set of Confederates including the horseman for myself  o_o  I was only going to order Congo but..............
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on August 31, 2017, 08:41:34 PM
Mindenbrush, that happens  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 01, 2017, 05:33:51 AM
@Robbie7:Hi, Rob! Give me a shout and I'll see if I can make it down for a game!
As the rules say, it's no more than two of each Weapon (besides pistols) per Posse- so you can indeed have two carbines and two rifles!

@Saucy Jack: Incredible looking set-up there! Really enjoyed reading the AAR on your blog, as well- looking forward to seeing what else you come up with!

@Paboook: Well I keep trying; but Facebook apparently really doesn't want me!  lol  For the time being, I'll still be here if you need any answers...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on September 01, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
@Fenrir - Thanks, we will be having another campaign game this evening. An I am thinking about using the Congregation, but I am a bit put off by the fact that I cannot start with a hougan/mambo arcanist from the get go. Can this really be true? IMO the Congregation is all about voodoo, yet it is not possible from the beginning to have a hougan/mambo.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 02, 2017, 05:11:02 AM
@Saucy Jack: It is true, I'm afraid- the reason being that both the Crossroads Cult and Dark Confederacy already had starting Arcanists, and I didn't want to end up with half the Factions having the same sort of feel!..

...However if your opponents are happy to let you do so then I'd consider swapping out the Vessel for an Arcanist with Bless and two other Powers. Don't let the rules as written put you off using the Congregation if that's your preferred Faction!  :)

Let us know how you get on!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on September 02, 2017, 11:59:28 AM
We play tested and just had an archanist. First few games is always worth dipping in with random bits so you get the feel of the rules. Like the ill advised hand to hand just to see what happens? Answer, you get mashed!

I like the rules because I can pull at them to get the feel we want.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 02, 2017, 12:36:54 PM

I like the rules because I can pull at them to get the feel we want.

EXACTLY! Really a VERY clever ruleset!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Tracy George on September 02, 2017, 02:46:58 PM
This came up in my last game. Couldn't find it in the rulebook.

Player A was going to Dual Activation a model from their posse. Player B's model, on Lookout, decided to React. Player B's model shoots and Downs Player A's model.

1. Is the action over for Player A or can they choose a new Solo or Dual action?

2. What if Player A did Dual Activation and moved a model once. Then, tried to do the second Activation with that same model but Player B's model, on Lookout, shoots Player A's model and Downs Player A's model. Does Player A still get an action for another model or is that action lost?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on September 02, 2017, 05:51:49 PM
Unsure the 'official' version, but we play once declared the two actions have been allocated. So don't get shot!
As I say I don't know if this is official, just how we play it. ???
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 03, 2017, 07:35:49 AM
@Tracy George: Let's see if I've understood your question correctly...

1) Bottom of page 35- "Once all eligible Reactions are complete, the triggering model then completes their Action if still able to do so."
So, if the now Downed model was about to take a Move Action when it got shot then it would still get to Move- though obviously now at the 2" crawl rate. If it was going to do anything else, then it would lose that Action (as the only thing a Downed model can do is Move- page 32) and thus end their Activation in this case!

Note that this would not affect the Dual Activation as a whole- so you can still Activate the other model if they haven't yet made their Action.

2) You can't Activate the same model twice as part of a Dual Activation (by definition, that would make it a Solo Activation!). Once a model has made it's Action during a Dual Activation, it gets a Done Token (bottom of page 15).

Hope that helps- if I've misunderstood you then give me a shout!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on September 03, 2017, 09:24:50 AM
A few more @fenrir

1) The hired gun Doc: it says that if he rolls a max on his die he removes a injury. So basically a 6 on a d6 when you first hire him. If he advances to veteran he now has to roll an 8 on his d8 - is this real? So as he advances his chance of success becomes worse.

2) If a model gets a Downed from a Fight and falls due to standing on an edge and then receives another Downed result, there is no further effect, as two Downed does not become a Casualty.

3) A model with Triggerhappy and a Repeater Rifle can fire four shots with a solo activation?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 03, 2017, 10:00:10 AM
No problem, Saucy Jack!

1) Technically, yes- however, his chance of killing the patient is also reduced... And you also have a Doc who is better in a scrap and more survivable! Glass half full, or half empty?  ;)

2) Yes you are correct, the unfortunate model remains Down in this case- there's no way to tell just how badly hurt they are at this point, or whether it was the attack or the fall that hurt them more! Only the Recovery Phase will reveal this...

3) Also correct- four shots (and 4 times the chance of a Jam, of course)!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Tracy George on September 03, 2017, 02:04:17 PM
@Tracy George: Let's see if I've understood your question correctly...

1)

2) You can't Activate the same model twice as part of a Dual Activation (by definition, that would make it a Solo Activation!). Once a model has made it's Action during a Dual Activation, it gets a Done Token (bottom of page 15).

Hope that helps- if I've misunderstood you then give me a shout!  :)

You're right. I missed typing Solo Action instead of Dual action.

1. So if I Solo action a model and it completes one of the actions then is Down before the second action the other action has to be used on this same model not a different one?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 03, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Correct- the model has already been chosen for the Activation at that point!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on September 04, 2017, 09:29:35 AM
another one @fenrir:

Model A is in base contact with his friend Model B, who is Downed, but Model A is also engaged in a fight with Model C. Does Model count as helping Model B in the Recovery Phase for recovering from Downed?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on September 04, 2017, 08:22:53 PM
A simple one but I can see this going either way - and this may have been asked and answered before.

Can a D6 grit model be shaken or do they automatically go to down? I assume the former but just wanted to check.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 05, 2017, 08:11:09 AM
@Saucy Jack: Good catch- model A would be too busy fighting for their life! One for the errata...  ;)

@Mellis1644: Correct- Novices can still become Shaken!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on September 07, 2017, 03:57:27 PM
Anyone thought of having some 'non supernatural' faction(s) to balance out the advantages of taking one of the listed ones in a campaign?

Either extra $ or just some extra skills campaign bonuses. Would be nice to use an outlaw, rustler or Lawman faction to be roughly balanced etc. I thought I saw someone say to give them $50 extra startup cash with an unlimited pool of recruits to use that on before the game starts - maybe that's an idea for one off games but over time in a campaign that likely won't work due to infamy levels... I was thinking a smaller start up bonus but extra income- due to not having to worry about the politics/issues of the factions.

P.S. Reading Joe R. Lansdale's Deadman's Road (not the greatest piece of writing but it's a fun romp in the weird west) but I so want to make a Reverend Jebidiah Mercer character/scenario now...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 07, 2017, 10:06:02 PM
Anyone thought of having some 'non supernatural' faction(s) to balance out the advantages of taking one of the listed ones in a campaign?

Either extra $ or just some extra skills campaign bonuses. Would be nice to use an outlaw, rustler or Lawman faction to be roughly balanced etc. I thought I saw someone say to give them $50 extra startup cash with an unlimited pool of recruits to use that on before the game starts - maybe that's an idea for one off games but over time in a campaign that likely won't work due to infamy levels... I was thinking a smaller start up bonus but extra income- due to not having to worry about the politics/issues of the factions.

P.S. Reading Joe R. Lansdale's Deadman's Road (not the greatest piece of writing but it's a fun romp in the weird west) but I so want to make a Reverend Jebidiah Mercer character/scenario now...

Non supernatural?! In Dead in the West Reverend Jebediah Mercer has to deal with a zombie plague raiding a small town cursed by an unjustly lynched indian shaman... It seems pretty much Dracula's America to me! :o

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: CptAmerica on September 08, 2017, 02:05:46 AM
Is there anyone else using Malifaux miniatures for Dracula's America? If so what models for which factions are you using? I have The Ortega Family almost fully painted but haven't decided on a faction. (Leaning towards the Templar.)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: mellis1644 on September 08, 2017, 04:48:41 AM
Non supernatural?! In Dead in the West Reverend Jebediah Mercer has to deal with a zombie plague raiding a small town cursed by an unjustly lynched indian shaman... It seems pretty much Dracula's America to me! :o



The books are pure DA and fun I agree. As I said not the greatest piece of fiction but not bad either. I have read a lot worse. Guy Adam's heavens gate trilogy is an interesting take but not quite so DA - but close. ;)

But I do have some players around here who if I can get a campaign going may want to use a non  supernatural based force. So having that as an option on a roughly equal footing to the other factions would be great as a option. Some extra starting cash - and maybe an extra Die (or half die) of income would I think more than balance them in a campaign but thats just from reading and not doing a campaign... So that's why I thought I'd ask. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Patrice on September 08, 2017, 12:07:31 PM
Has the North Star catalogue been recently changed for this range of minis? It seems that most of them are sold by packs of 3 now and no longer individually (or perhaps I can't find the right page?)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on September 08, 2017, 03:41:19 PM
This is correct, they were never going to be individual forever.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Tracy George on September 09, 2017, 01:17:25 AM
How close do you have to be to an opening/window to see and be seen?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 10, 2017, 05:52:41 AM
@Tracy George: Line of Sight rules are given on Page 10:
"Our models are always assumed to be facing in the direction they are looking, and have a 180-degree field of view to their front"
and:
"When required to check LOS, stoop over the table for a look behind the model's head- if you can see any part of the target's head or body... then your model can 'see' it."
and:
"...if you determine that you can see an enemy model, then they can also see you."

Hope that helps!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 10, 2017, 06:33:31 AM

"When required to check LOS, stoop over the table for a look behind the model's head- if you can see any part of the target's head or body... then your model can 'see' it."
and:
"...if you determine that you can see an enemy model, then they can also see you."


My game group has two people with restricted mobility (they're on wheelchairs), so for checking LOS we use laser pointers!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 12, 2017, 06:53:49 PM
The Manitou (a limited edition miniature for Dracula's America):

(http://northstarfigures.com/images/0/img10730.jpg)

http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=10730 (http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=10730)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 13, 2017, 10:07:49 AM
That's a very cool figure!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 15, 2017, 10:53:38 AM
That's a very cool figure!  8)

Indeed!

Vampifan, talking about coolness, you can use this link to resize your LAF's avatar picture online with much better quality to make justice to our beloved Fanged Goddess: https://www.reduceimages.com/ (https://www.reduceimages.com/)

(I use 80X80 pixels size image)   ;)

Unless, of course, that small and out of focus image is part of a larger and absolutely wicked plan...   ;D

 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 15, 2017, 06:42:17 PM
Thanks for the hint on resizing my profile pic. Sadly, no matter how small I reduce it to, I can't change it. This is the only forum that will not allow me to use my normal profile picture. I even reduced it to 10x10 pixels! Bah, humbug! >:(
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 15, 2017, 06:49:08 PM
Thanks for the hint on resizing my profile pic. Sadly, no matter how small I reduce it to, I can't change it. This is the only forum that will not allow me to use my normal profile picture. I even reduced it to 10x10 pixels! Bah, humbug! >:(

Try this one (by Frazetta, of course!); just save it, export to the online picture resizing site and set it to 79X79 pixels with 90% quality in PNG format:  

It works - see the second picture:

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Patrice on September 15, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
BTW — no chance that the Nosferatu figure (the one called Broadsire in the Red Hand Coven or whatever) will ever be sold and advertised separately again? This magnificent one should deserve wide promotion outside the range.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 15, 2017, 09:53:08 PM
Try this one (by Frazetta, of course!); just save it, export to the online picture resizing site and set it to 79X79 pixels with 90% quality in PNG format:  

It works - see the second picture:

 ;)

And it does work!  :o

Hallelujah!  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Many, many thanks, Edu. I am eternally grateful to you!  :)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 15, 2017, 11:44:38 PM
And it does work!  :o

Hallelujah!  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Many, many thanks, Edu. I am eternally grateful to you!  :)



Vampifan, you know you're ALWAYS WELCOME!  ;)

BTW: Very nice avatar! Frazetta + Vampirella = a winning combo!!!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 15, 2017, 11:54:11 PM
BTW — no chance that the Nosferatu figure (the one called Broadsire in the Red Hand Coven or whatever) will ever be sold and advertised separately again? This magnificent one should deserve wide promotion outside the range.

Lots of guys in the FB page are asking the same! But for 7.50 I think it's still worth to buy the Broodsire and get a couple of Broodkins in the package - really great sculpts full of character!  ;)

http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=10754 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=10754)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Patrice on September 17, 2017, 08:08:31 PM

BTW — no chance that the Nosferatu figure (the one called Broadsire in the Red Hand Coven or whatever) will ever be sold and advertised separately again? This magnificent one should deserve wide promotion outside the range.
Lots of guys in the FB page are asking the same! But for 7.50 I think it's still worth to buy the Broodsire and get a couple of Broodkins in the package - really great sculpts full of character!  ;)

OK, yes I'll do that. I've also noticed some nice new products on your website - the "fruits & veg baskets and boxes" in your Skytrex range - ...I'll order them together, and perhaps travelling in the same postal box the vampires will change their diet and turn veggie. lol

...I still think that the Nosferatu / broodsire (um yes not "broadsire" as I wrote earlier, forgive my Klatchian accent) figure would deserve a larger promotion outside the specific range, but you do as you think good.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 17, 2017, 08:51:11 PM


OK, yes I'll do that. I've also noticed some nice new products on your website - the "fruits & veg baskets and boxes" in your Skytrex range - ...I'll order them together, and perhaps travelling in the same postal box the vampires will change their diet and turn veggie. lol

...I still think that the Nosferatu / broodsire (um yes not "broadsire" as I wrote earlier, forgive my Klatchian accent) figure would deserve a larger promotion outside the specific range, but you do as you think good.


It's not my website, it's Nick Eyre's!  lol

http://www.northstarfigures.com/ (http://www.northstarfigures.com/)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Patrice on September 17, 2017, 09:13:48 PM
Oooops... You were so willing to talk favourably about them that I got confused, sorry.  ::) :-X :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 17, 2017, 09:15:53 PM
Oooops... You were so willing to talk favourably about them that I got confused, sorry.  ::) :-X :)

What's not to talk favourably about Nick and North Star?!  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: c12 on September 20, 2017, 10:17:36 AM
Good morning gentlemen,

Apologies if the question was already asked but I'm not sure on one point of rules.
Rulesbook says on page 116 about Supernatural Creatures:

"If their first Move takes them into Contact with an enemy model, they will
use their second Action to Fight if possible
. Note that a Charging Creature ends
its Activation after making its free Fight – it does not Fight twice!"

I get that if the creature get into contact (in other words, manages to Charge), it will have to use its second action to fight.
But then the non-bold part of the rules says creature do not get a second action after the free fight one when they charge.

So could you good people let me know how do you play this?

Thanks ahead

Enjoy your day!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 21, 2017, 05:42:01 AM
@c12: Good morning!
The intent behind this rule was simply to stop creatures slaughtering their way through the player's Posses! Some (especially some of the creatures in upcoming books) are pretty lethal...

So to break it down for you, a creature will get two Actions to Move towards a victim (or Move and Shoot in some cases), but once it is in Contact with somebody it will only get a single Fight Action.

Remember that a model can engage an enemy and not count as Charging (if it couldn't see them at the start of the Move- see page 20)- a Move into Contact is not always a Charge by definition!  :)

Hope that helps.

@All: My turn to ask for some help! I received a big box of official DA figures from the kind folks at Osprey this week, and I've already been feverishly painting- can anybody recommend a free picture hosting site (Photobucket is not an option!) so I can get some photos up? Cheers!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: c12 on September 21, 2017, 11:37:36 AM
Thanks a lot for your help, makes more sense now :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Michi on September 21, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
@All: My turn to ask for some help! I received a big box of official DA figures from the kind folks at Osprey this week, and I've already been feverishly painting- can anybody recommend a free picture hosting site (Photobucket is not an option!) so I can get some photos up? Cheers!

Why don´t you try to create a blog? Hosting pictures there is usually free, you keep readers updated, can receive comments and have a perfect archive too!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 21, 2017, 03:11:18 PM
Why don´t you try to create a blog? Hosting pictures there is usually free, you keep readers updated, can receive comments and have a perfect archive too!

Good advice. That's what I do.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 21, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
Good advice. That's what I do.  :)

And an AWESOME blog BTW!  :D

You know it's true, because lots of people already said they get into the hobby - or increased their joy in the hobby - inspired by your blog! So... please KEEP DOING THAT GREAT JOB BLOG OF YOURS!   ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 21, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
And an AWESOME blog BTW!  :D

You know it's true, because lots of people already said they get into the hobby - or increased their joy in the hobby - inspired by your blog! So... please KEEP DOING THAT GREAT JOB BLOG OF YOURS!   ;)

Aw, shucks. You're far too kind!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 21, 2017, 11:02:45 PM
Aw, shucks. You're far too kind!  :)

Mate, I'm not kind - I'm REALISTIC!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 22, 2017, 05:58:23 AM
Thanks, Michi- a blog is something I've been considering for a few weeks now, so maybe it's time to stop procrastinating and Get On With It, as Tim would say...

I'll see what time I get this weekend!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 22, 2017, 08:21:15 AM
I have just finished painting my first faction for Dracula's America and thought I'd share the pictures here.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FPgxVxTV1Yg/WcO5eVzJucI/AAAAAAAAOmM/bI8Cs_JwP00YtMrpaeraG0IMmc06dctrwCLcBGAs/s640/Twilight%2BOrder%2BFaction%2B01.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Yf4D3CKyIjs/WcO5fAhQWLI/AAAAAAAAOmQ/QID1JqaTlkAQB_kobvggeE4cKUQO-NNSQCLcBGAs/s1600/Twilight%2BOrder%2BFaction%2B02.jpg)

It is, of course, the Twilight Order faction. You can read more about them on my blog here -

https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/draculas-america-twilight-faction.html (https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/draculas-america-twilight-faction.html)

@Fenrir. You should seriously consider starting your own blog. I'd definitely follow it. :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 22, 2017, 01:29:19 PM
WHAT, you painted the Twilight Order BEFORE the Vamps? :o

(ok, I've just read the reason in your blog, but I just don't get it!  lol )

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 22, 2017, 01:38:11 PM
WHAT, you painted the Twilight Order BEFORE the Vamps? :o

(ok, I've just read the reason in your blog, but I just don't get it!  lol )

What can I say, mate? I was captivated by the Siren call of the Seraphim.  Swoon! :-*

The Red Hand Coven will definitely get finished next and normalcy will return.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 22, 2017, 02:13:05 PM
What can I say, mate? I was captivated by the Siren call of the Seraphim.  Swoon! :-*

The Red Hand Coven will definitely get finished next and normalcy will return.  :D

 lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 25, 2017, 09:57:50 PM
Very nice picture from Dracula's America FB Players Page:

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21765078_1930198513925146_8002625333292313105_n.jpg?oh=1e20b149b7f34c058fca9653d6b372a5&oe=5A577C50)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/DraculasAmerica/)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on September 25, 2017, 10:56:59 PM
@Saucy Jack: Right now all I can say about book 3 is that it is set in the ruinous swamps of the Dark Confederacy and features murderous scarecrows, amongst other critters!  ;) But I guess it will all depend on how well the first two books are received...
I don't know how I missed this! We are playing in Louisiana swamps right off the bat, so I guess we're in for the ride!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 25, 2017, 11:43:32 PM
I don't know how I missed this! We are playing in Louisiana swamps right off the bat, so I guess we're in for the ride!

And a great reason to build a big wrecked paddle boat as well!

(https://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/derelict-towboat-mamie-s-barrett.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Kommando_J on September 26, 2017, 12:54:46 AM
I t would make a great central scenery piece, perhaps the beached lair of an ancient vampire? Unable to cross flowing water it is trapped...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 26, 2017, 01:08:27 AM
I t would make a great central scenery piece, perhaps the beached lair of an ancient vampire? Unable to cross flowing water it is trapped...

Bad news for the looters aiming for an easy target! A wrecked casino boat is supposed to have a safe full of money still hidden somewhere, right?  ;)

Or maybe the boat is not wrecked... but it's a dark legend of the river... a floating coffin full of promises of treasures and eternal life...  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fevre_Dream (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fevre_Dream)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Flier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Flier)

(https://media.tenor.com/images/c1d18d31deb4a1cc7cc225068263cf35/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 26, 2017, 12:26:45 PM
You'll be happy to hear then that in book 3, one of the out-of-game Encounters has you exploring a wrecked paddle-steamer!  ;)

Oh aye, and I've also started a tentative Blog- link below, if I can get it to work!

https://lead-mountaineer.blogspot.co.uk/

There will of course be plenty of DA related stuff, but you may occasionally have to put up with some of my ramblings and such. Feel free to comment and ask questions on there if you like, and I'll try to keep abreast of developments both here and there (wish me luck on that!)...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on September 26, 2017, 04:07:31 PM
Good to see the blog up and running. Well beyond my tech abilities already.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 26, 2017, 04:11:01 PM
I won't lie; I had help!
I'm hoping that I'll be able to figure the rest of it out as I go along...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 26, 2017, 08:41:48 PM
You'll be happy to hear then that in book 3, one of the out-of-game Encounters has you exploring a wrecked paddle-steamer!  ;)

I KNEW IT!  lol

Oh aye, and I've also started a tentative Blog- link below, if I can get it to work!

https://lead-mountaineer.blogspot.co.uk/

There will of course be plenty of DA related stuff, but you may occasionally have to put up with some of my ramblings and such. Feel free to comment and ask questions on there if you like, and I'll try to keep abreast of developments both here and there (wish me luck on that!)...

Looking good so far! CONGRATULATIONS!  ;)

And... GOOD LUCK!  :D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on September 26, 2017, 09:47:18 PM
Fenrir, I'm delighted to see you have started blogging. I've left a short message on your blog (your first comment  :D) and I will definitely be following you from now on.  ;) Best of luck!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on September 29, 2017, 03:51:23 PM
Thanks very much, folks!  :)

@Vampifan: And thank you, sir, for the very kind and encouraging first comment! As soon as I figure out how, I will definitely return the favour and follow your own Blog...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on September 29, 2017, 09:19:33 PM
Oh aye, and I've also started a tentative Blog- link below, if I can get it to work!

https://lead-mountaineer.blogspot.co.uk/

Great news!

It is really bad the beautiful Black Scorpion miniatures look like giants next to standard 28 mm.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 29, 2017, 11:34:15 PM
Great news!

It is really bad the beautiful Black Scorpion miniatures look like giants next to standard 28 mm.

Indeed, but IMHO you can pick up some of them to add to the mix of your figures, because real people are not build under the same "scale" anyway...  ;)


In the meanwhile, check out the gorgeous Knuckeduster Gunfighter's Ball line of figures - they fit very well with Artizan/Dracula's America miniatures:

(http://knuckleduster.com/oldsite/images/owsize500.jpg)

http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_70 (http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_70)


There's some good comparison pictures of Old West miniatures here:

http://blazingdice.blogspot.com.br/2013/11/old-west-figure-manufacture-comparison.html (http://blazingdice.blogspot.com.br/2013/11/old-west-figure-manufacture-comparison.html)



Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on September 30, 2017, 01:18:18 PM
Dinohinterpoe: Lovely figures. I wonder if they have EU distribution.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on September 30, 2017, 01:47:16 PM
Dinohinterpoe: Lovely figures. I wonder if they have EU distribution.

As far as I know, Knuckeduster's website shopping cart is programmed to charge shipping to Europe based upon weight instead of a flat fee, waaaaay cheaper than using the standard USPS as most companies do. You can run a simulation of shipping charges on the "shop" portion of their website, or just get in touch with them!  ;) 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Remington on September 30, 2017, 07:37:31 PM
Hey everyone, we're having a bit of a disagreement during our game, because we're confused by the northstar model: The harbinger of the crossroad cult retains his weapons... that means he/she can shoot normally, right? Even if the NS model carries no weapons.

Re: Knuckleduster:sadly their shipping for Europe was like 25$ for 5 models and they haven't yet responded to me since I sent them a message a week ago.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on September 30, 2017, 09:10:39 PM
He can still shoot, yes, according to the rules. The Congregation minis, while being totally.cool, are entirely inappropriate for actual game play. No arcanist to start, so they give you 3! No zombies til someone dies, so you get 2. ::)
I still love em! But my starting posse will look very different from what they provided.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 01, 2017, 10:49:47 AM
Regarding Knuckleduster Miniatures, Caliver Books in the UK stock most of their range. Here's a link to them - https://www.caliverbooks.com/figures/catviewer.php?q0dh30l2spchbngvoedv9a1r43&producer=126&range=Gunfighers%20Ball&menu=2 (https://www.caliverbooks.com/figures/catviewer.php?q0dh30l2spchbngvoedv9a1r43&producer=126&range=Gunfighers%20Ball&menu=2)
I've ordered from them in the past and found them most reliable. I hope that helps.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 01, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Regarding Knuckleduster Miniatures, Caliver Books in the UK stock most of their range. Here's a link to them - https://www.caliverbooks.com/figures/catviewer.php?q0dh30l2spchbngvoedv9a1r43&producer=126&range=Gunfighers%20Ball&menu=2 (https://www.caliverbooks.com/figures/catviewer.php?q0dh30l2spchbngvoedv9a1r43&producer=126&range=Gunfighers%20Ball&menu=2)
I've ordered from them in the past and found them most reliable. I hope that helps.  :)

Vampifan to the rescue!  ;)

Thank you very much for the link; I've ordered directly from Knuckeduster and paid a very reasonable shipping charge, but as Remington said they changed their shipping policy, in the future I will order from Caliver Books for sure!  :)

 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 01, 2017, 12:46:01 PM
As a resident of the UK I'm always pleased when UK based companies have American and other foreign countries' products for sale. It saves a fortune on post and packing and the dreaded customs charges. Even more so with the UK leaving the European Market forcing the value of the pound to plummet. I used to order a lot of figures from abroad but now I'm much more cautious about what I spend and where.  :-[
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 01, 2017, 01:07:17 PM
As a resident of the UK I'm always pleased when UK based companies have American and other foreign countries' products for sale. It saves a fortune on post and packing and the dreaded customs charges. Even more so with the UK leaving the European Market forcing the value of the pound to plummet. I used to order a lot of figures from abroad but now I'm much more cautious about what I spend and where.  :-[

Agreed 100%!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Remington on October 02, 2017, 07:33:01 AM
Thanks there, fellas! Thank you for your reply, LeadAsbestos. That's exactly what I thought and that is why I dislike the Harbinger of the Crossroad Cult (not the Vessel from the congregation - but I also dislike the zombis also, although the minis look cool; they are rules-impractical).
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 03, 2017, 06:05:42 AM
Yes, some of the figures could do with at least a holstered pistol on their belt or something!
I've been converting my own figures with suitable plastic weapons from the Warlord Games Project Z Survivors...

By the way, I finally got around to updating the new Blog with a report of a DA demo game from last week!

https://lead-mountaineer.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/draculas-demo-2692017.html
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Saucy Jack on October 03, 2017, 07:36:49 AM
I have been converting my Congregation posse. Fitting them with firearms.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Remington on October 03, 2017, 08:57:54 AM
So where did you get the firearms guys? Did you use Perry? Or does someone make some?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on October 03, 2017, 02:39:01 PM
As I had a lot of guys painted up from Congo games, so my Congregation force has potential to be HUGE!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Gardensnake on October 05, 2017, 01:59:03 AM
He can still shoot, yes, according to the rules. The Congregation minis, while being totally.cool, are entirely inappropriate for actual game play. No arcanist to start, so they give you 3! No zombies til someone dies, so you get 2. ::)
I still love em! But my starting posse will look very different from what they provided.

I get what you are saying but I think you may be looking at it wrong. The way I view the official figures, they aren't meant to form complete forces. They are to let you turn your existing western model collections into war bands for the game. It's not that you need 3 archaists, you've got 3 choices for your arcanist models. The zombi are for when you need them or one-off games. Compared to the Twilight order, the Crossroads Cult, and the Skinwalkers, The Congregation is spoiled with official models. I think the only group who has more official models and can fill out a posse with just official models is Dark Confederacy. I think the official models represent more of a end result than a start. It's kind of like a D&D character. At 1st level, they're never what they will be. Also, there's nothing stopping someone from playing a one-off game and using 2 arcanist and 2 zombis in a game. It's completely legal if you use the arcanist hired gun and start with enough money to buy a grimoire to get your main arcanist. We've also been teased of a houngan hired gun, so that would make 3 arcanist at the right amount of money or experience.

William
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 05, 2017, 12:53:27 PM
What I'm saying, William, is that the models aren't appropriate for actual game play. Are you going to run zombies w/ no weapons, or just a machete? Because that is what they have. Or arcanists without any weapons at all? Also what is available.

I'm planning on using the official minis and letting my opponent know what they are carrying in game, because they are great looking minis, well-sculpted and that evoke the mood very well, but in actual play terms, they aren't right. I'm still painting the bunch and using them! :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 06, 2017, 01:11:30 AM
We've been playing for a couple weeks now, and really enjoying the rules a lot!  Sarai, my Twilight Order's Summoned Seraph, has been pretty much officially christened "Murder Angel".

Our house rules:
1.  We started our campaign with $100 forces but limited to the one vet and five novices per the campaign rules.  It seems to be working out well.
2.   We changed the card initiative to work along the same lines as Savage Worlds - Aces high, Jokers trump and allow two solo activations at once, priority by card value and then spades/hearts/diamonds/clubs priority on a tie.  This also is working out really well.

I've been posting battle reports on the Facebook players page as we play games.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Lowtardog on October 06, 2017, 07:32:16 AM
I think for zombies, I would pick up pistols and other weapons, I think there was a post on the face book group a while ago , an example is shown here http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_71&products_id=255&language=it

that can modify them,. Another thing I have done is like Lad asbestos use a token to state what the weapon they have  e.g. pistol, rifle etc as helps to avoid ambiguity.

If wanting to use zeds with the weapons use normal cowboys and zombify them (papa midnight and red zed have some great examples on the forum here)

things like flesh colour, using a pin vice to put bullet holes in them works a treat or bending arms and legs or chopping heads and repositioning at an odd angle work well too
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 08, 2017, 02:26:35 PM
How do you get XP? The only way I can find is by being the underdog in a game?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 08, 2017, 07:33:04 PM
@LeadAsbestos: Page 65, under Advance Rolls-
"A model that does not Advance earns one point of EXP instead".

There are also a few Encounters where your models can earn EXP...

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 08, 2017, 11:30:54 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 09, 2017, 06:04:18 AM
No problem! :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 09, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Can one buy skills for new recruits in a campaign?  I don't see anywhere saying either way.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 10, 2017, 05:04:49 AM
@Froggy the Great: No, afraid not- the only way you can buy Skills for your models is in a one-off game (that's why they are in that section of the rules!). If you are playing a Campaign, you need to follow the rules for Posse building given in that section and earn your Skills the hard way- by earning EXP and Advancing...  :)

Hope that clears it up for you!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 10, 2017, 02:22:27 PM
@Froggy the Great: No, afraid not- the only way you can buy Skills for your models is in a one-off game (that's why they are in that section of the rules!). If you are playing a Campaign, you need to follow the rules for Posse building given in that section and earn your Skills the hard way- by earning EXP and Advancing...  :)

Hope that clears it up for you!
It does indeed, thank you!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 10, 2017, 04:18:13 PM
No problem- any other questions crop up, drop me a line here or on my Blog!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 12, 2017, 12:17:52 AM
No problem- any other questions crop up, drop me a line here or on my Blog!

Fenrir, include a link to your blog in your posts using the PROFILE - Modify Profile - Forum Profile Information - Website URL settings!  ;)

(the blog's URL will show in a "GLOBE" icon on the bottom left corner of your posts!)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 12, 2017, 06:18:16 AM
@DinohunterPOA: Thanks very much for that- I salute your technical know-how!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 12, 2017, 12:01:00 PM
@DinohunterPOA: Thanks very much for that- I salute your technical know-how!  :)

 lol lol lol lol lol

BTW: that WW2 game in your blog looks FANTASTIC!  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 14, 2017, 05:50:25 PM

Well, Dracula's America is a HORROR game, right?!

THIS IS HORRIBLE!  :o

(https://scontent.ffln1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22491682_10212020768569333_1672101331213971006_n.jpg?oh=39720718d78de153616d1ae543bc341d&oe=5A7572A1)
 
(picture taken from the dreaded FB Players Page)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 14, 2017, 09:52:02 PM
I'm at a loss for words!  :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 15, 2017, 03:47:11 AM
I'm at a loss for words!  :o :o :o :o :o :o

I know... I know...  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 15, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
An impressive Abyssal Steed, there- I would say it must be Summoned into play, and counts as a Unique Summoning for those purposes. It uses all the usual rules for Horses, but with a Grit of D10. While ridden, the rider may spend an Action to Shoot using the creature's infernal breath- a 4" Fire Corridor weapon.

By the way, I've just started to compile a tentative Errata for DA over on my Blog; feel free to stop by and comment if you think you've found any more!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 15, 2017, 12:05:39 PM
An impressive Abyssal Steed, there- I would say it must be Summoned into play, and counts as a Unique Summoning for those purposes. It uses all the usual rules for Horses, but with a Grit of D10. While ridden, the rider may spend an Action to Shoot using the creature's infernal breath- a 4" Fire Corridor weapon.

Fenrir, that's GREAT , thank you very much!  :D

But some HORRIBLE things should be kept as far as away from the game table as possible, IMHO...   :o
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 15, 2017, 07:35:31 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: Hey, this is Dracula's America- the Horror is Real! lol

Oh aye, and a new Post has just gone up on my Blog talking a little about my new Skinwalker Tribes Posse- and  featuring a wee preview of things to come in book 2!..  :-X

https://lead-mountaineer.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/skinwalker-tribes-apache.html
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 16, 2017, 12:01:07 AM
Followed! Cool wendigo conversion!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 16, 2017, 03:25:54 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: Hey, this is Dracula's America- the Horror is Real! lol

Indeed!  lol

Oh aye, and a new Post has just gone up on my Blog talking a little about my new Skinwalker Tribes Posse- and  featuring a wee preview of things to come in book 2!..  :-X

https://lead-mountaineer.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/skinwalker-tribes-apache.html

It's getting better and better!  :-*

Fenrir, BTW: Some HK guys I know used your Dracula's America rules to play a modern skirmish tactical game featuring a DEVGRU raid on a certain Pakistani compound; I've been told it was a blast! So, once again, CONGRATULATIONS for a very nice and adaptable ruleset! ;) (I've asked them to put up a blog and upload some pictures of the game!)

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VxC53_LZ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/17my0svjrzmytjpg.jpg)



  
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 16, 2017, 06:02:48 AM
@LeadAsbestos: Thank you kindly, sir! Do you have a Blog yourself?

@Dinohunterpoa: That's great to hear- thanks very much for posting that! Great looking terrain as well- I'd love to hear an AAR, what rules-changes they made and the weapon stats they came up with...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 16, 2017, 03:21:53 PM
An impressive Abyssal Steed, there- I would say it must be Summoned into play, and counts as a Unique Summoning for those purposes. It uses all the usual rules for Horses, but with a Grit of D10. While ridden, the rider may spend an Action to Shoot using the creature's infernal breath- a 4" Fire Corridor weapon.

This is my model.  Do I have the Word of Author that this is an official statline?  If Saul can summon his own mount, that'll keep my opponents' friendly ribbing about Sarai "Murder Angel" the Summoned Seraph at bay.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 16, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
...also, DA really needs rules for setting things on fire, either by dynamite, happenstance, or malice.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 16, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
@Dinohunterpoa: That's great to hear- thanks very much for posting that! Great looking terrain as well- I'd love to hear an AAR, what rules-changes they made and the weapon stats they came up with...
Cheers!

The picture of the "terrain" they've emailed me is strangely (almost) identical to the CIA's model of Bin Laden's compound in Abbotabbad... so I wonder it they've been playing a modern version of Dracula's America in their coffee break hours!  lol   
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 17, 2017, 04:27:44 AM
@Froggy the Great: Ha, well as long as your opponent is happy to let you use a giant fire-breathing Abyssal Pony, then go ahead!  lol

And coming up with some rules for setting things on fire shouldn't be too difficult...

@Dinohunterpoa: Now that would be interesting to see!..
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 19, 2017, 08:58:00 AM
I have finished painting my Red Hand Coven faction and have used a mix of official North Star figures and a set from Pontoonier Miniatures.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-G29RWFcqqKk/WedG3kGiU3I/AAAAAAAAOs0/kk2oNJqo1LM780ze_U7jFpCmf5DcHkJbACLcBGAs/s640/Red%2BHand%2BCoven%2BFaction%2B01.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7DnGvAs-XyQ/WedG4O5WUuI/AAAAAAAAOs4/_Ag-1jd29EwBmeGHgbxU83kkfKl_5Ya7QCLcBGAs/s640/Red%2BHand%2BCoven%2BFaction%2B02.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JW0APmWr9Dk/WedG4jXidnI/AAAAAAAAOs8/kK4lmR4WnqwcnUHKgbNXvAZSr917UdAcACLcBGAs/s640/Red%2BHand%2BCoven%2BFaction%2B03.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7xvDA7biwfM/WedG5evCV2I/AAAAAAAAOtA
/nyjORHkHJUQDYZxwMWXSk6wR1hz2ljr-wCLcBGAs/s640/Red%2BHand%2BCoven%2BFaction%2B04.jpg)

You can read more about them on my blog here - http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/draculas-america-red-hand-coven-faction.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/draculas-america-red-hand-coven-faction.html)

This should make Dinohunterpoa very happy!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 19, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
This should make Dinohunterpoa very happy!  :D

OF COURSE IT DID!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 20, 2017, 12:03:39 AM
This is my model.  Do I have the Word of Author that this is an official statline?  If Saul can summon his own mount, that'll keep my opponents' friendly ribbing about Sarai "Murder Angel" the Summoned Seraph at bay.

Froggy, Helena has just posted on the FB Players Page what may drive her to start playing Dracula's America!  lol
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 20, 2017, 12:45:40 PM
An impressive Abyssal Steed, there- I would say it must be Summoned into play, and counts as a Unique Summoning for those purposes. It uses all the usual rules for Horses, but with a Grit of D10. While ridden, the rider may spend an Action to Shoot using the creature's infernal breath- a 4" Fire Corridor weapon.

By the way, I've just started to compile a tentative Errata for DA over on my Blog; feel free to stop by and comment if you think you've found any more!

So here's Chrysophylax, a slightly more serious summoned mount.  He can be Celestial or Abyssal, depending on who summons him.
(http://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_2017_10/pixlr_20171020081449322.jpg.beeaa2d44e39117db7c7b626736cd5a9.jpg)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: horridperson on October 20, 2017, 02:58:39 PM
This looks cool.  Really awesome painted models all around and nothing sucks me in and makes me want to try something out like well painted miniatures.  I really want to get an Old West DMH game going but I'm thinking a brimstone infused variation might be a better gateway drug to encourage local participation.  I just need to find a stockist who has DA as I didn't get in on the KS.  Those figures would work nicely with the other OW models I have been collecting.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: BlaxKleric on October 21, 2017, 07:57:50 PM
The first three of my "Wargames Foundry" Zombie Gunfighters for "Dracula's America" are finally finished  :)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cffzcvVvNtY/WeujIJG63PI/AAAAAAAAL70/d6yj4z1Ghlc9jOeWo7h2E3ozAs5H0KGqgCLcBGAs/s400/Foundrym.bmp)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eq72Cos8NRY/WeukTrA7tfI/AAAAAAAAL8E/R4qijKKdBNsdrM3V0w3xGhHh-bjOqqaxQCLcBGAs/s400/Foundryn.bmp)

http://fantorical.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/the-dead-do-not-rest-easy-in-draculas.html (http://fantorical.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/the-dead-do-not-rest-easy-in-draculas.html)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 22, 2017, 09:39:18 PM

Soundtrack for an EPIC game!  lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wro0VE6i-XM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wro0VE6i-XM)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 23, 2017, 10:10:31 AM
Here are the four official North Star Dracula's America figures for the Crossroads Cult faction.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gFmL_zOIcIY/Wem_S1AAl1I/AAAAAAAAOtQ/aEZjm6_1quUc5jrVMKoVZN1nIV3qHKUFACLcBGAs/s640/Crossroads%2BCult%2BFaction%2B01.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IFKwJ5MSEMc/Wem_Tfw31fI/AAAAAAAAOtU/qZJqdpGZhwAO1TNmJerzG2yNV54UxvT1wCLcBGAs/s640/Crossroads%2BCult%2BFaction%2B02.jpg)

You can read more about them on my blog here - http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/draculas-america-crossroads-cult-faction.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/draculas-america-crossroads-cult-faction.html)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 23, 2017, 03:10:20 PM
My Twilight Order got ambushed this weekend and the Boss, his daughter, the other Templar, and the hired Templar all succumbed to their wounds.  Two of the survivors lost an eye and nearly all the rest had a limp.  They've withdrawn to Peoria to reconsider their options and maybe retire.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Paboook on October 24, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
My Twilight Order got ambushed this weekend and the Boss, his daughter, the other Templar, and the hired Templar all succumbed to their wounds.  Two of the survivors lost an eye and nearly all the rest had a limp.  They've withdrawn to Peoria to reconsider their options and maybe retire.

Wow, what a massacre ... On the other hand, such moments mean also great wargaming stories :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on October 24, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
@Froggy the Great: Ouch! Commiserations... Who were doing the ambushing?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 25, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
@Froggy the Great: Ouch! Commiserations... Who were doing the ambushing?
Our first game was versus Red Hand Coven, which we took apart with ease.  We had time for another game, so I set up near the saloon and let him deploy out of LOS - the RHC came back for payback after dark while the Twilight Order was unwinding.  My posse mostly failed their grit rolls to be aware on the first turn, and ended up trying to charge the Barber shop where the RHC was fortified.  It ended as one would expect, and the stories are good.  I am painting up replacement Templars.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 27, 2017, 02:40:32 PM
Our first game was versus Red Hand Coven, which we took apart with ease.  We had time for another game, so I set up near the saloon and let him deploy out of LOS - the RHC came back for payback after dark while the Twilight Order was unwinding.  My posse mostly failed their grit rolls to be aware on the first turn, and ended up trying to charge the Barber shop where the RHC was fortified.  It ended as one would expect, and the stories are good.  I am painting up replacement Templars.

TRHC rules the night!  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 27, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
TRHC rules the night!  ;D

And so they should!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 27, 2017, 11:07:42 PM
And so they should!  :D :D :D :D :D

EXACTLY!  lol lol lol lol

Vampifan, BTW (and totally off topic, sorry): played in a "modern SpecOps" game a few days ago with a modern version of the Red Hand Coven, it was a BLAST! (literally, because we attacked that papercraft Ebbles "Convoy" and literally burned 4 heavy trucks and 2 Humvees to the ground!)  ;D Go Vamps!!! lol

Gonna play a scenario with Werewolves in the near future with a "modernized" version of Dracula's America rules this time - and then pictures will follow!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 28, 2017, 08:34:35 AM
EXACTLY!  lol lol lol lol

Vampifan, BTW (and totally off topic, sorry): played in a "modern SpecOps" game a few days ago with a modern version of the Red Hand Coven, it was a BLAST! (literally, because we attacked that papercraft Ebbles "Convoy" and literally burned 4 heavy trucks and 2 Humvees to the ground!)  ;D Go Vamps!!! lol

Gonna play a scenario with Werewolves in the near future with a "modernized" version of Dracula's America rules this time - and then pictures will follow!  ;)

I would love to see that!  :-*

Great to hear your vamps performed so well in the SpecOps game. I have the Ebbles convoy you mentioned so I can picture it in my mind's eye. It sounds like it was a great game.  8)

By the way, I do like your new avatar.  8) Who is he, please?  :?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: BlaxKleric on October 28, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
The fourth of my "Wargames Foundry" Zombie Gunfighters for "Dracula's America" is now finished, and thought you'd enjoy a group shot of all six miniatures I've painted for "Zomtober"  :)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zcs5QkcrA60/WfRTCzZQmBI/AAAAAAAAL84/D-UPH7I6Gv0IxBJ3svVAOlboIYFwkRAngCLcBGAs/s400/Foundryo.bmp)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pm1JLboaNKg/WfRTsRkqWUI/AAAAAAAAL9A/fglmKGPIEpkTCRk3eOUz6lzEgnX9VlkXgCLcBGAs/s400/Showcaseav.bmp)

http://fantorical.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/an-unwelcome-guest.html (http://fantorical.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/an-unwelcome-guest.html)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 28, 2017, 11:03:34 AM
Hey, Vampifan!

I would love to see that!  :-*

You'll see!  8)

Great to hear your vamps performed so well in the SpecOps game.

Vamps are born performers!  :D

As the Red Hand Coven I've used old Foundry Street Violence figures that I used to represent vampire characters in the Vampire RPG aeons ago! (Juno's Crew, you have them!  ;))    

I have the Ebbles convoy you mentioned so I can picture it in my mind's eye. It sounds like it was a great game.  8)

I know you have Ebbles Convoy (I've seen the Humvees in your website a long time ago), so I've wondered you would like to hear what happened to mine! lol  Actually a dear friend of mine - the GM of that particular game - put them in the table as an inside joke of hers, because the 6 "SpecOps Girls" have long decided that they would NEVER use papercraft scenery in their modern games! And to be "officially" included in the group I had to literally burn the vehicles in that attack - yes, their sense of humor is that wicked!  ;D (they're still Vampire Supermodels after all!)

By the way, I do like your new avatar.  8) Who is he, please?  :?

Well, that's another inside joke! It's a 1/6 Action Figure of a PMC that they've given me as a "bribe" to try a SpecOps game with them, after they already abducted my GF to their crew! (and that guy supposedly looks very alike me!) I was always totally "been there, done that and have the scars and the PTSD" kind of thing about "modern operations" games, but in the end I enjoyed it immensely! We had VAMPIRES, for God's sake! Now I can say that I'm totally hooked on SpecOps Adventures! (specially playing the "bad guys!" against the girl's Covert Agents! :D)

A close friend of mine - who was also in the line of "been there, done that, etc..." is gonna jump aboard in a game featuring a pack of werewolves in the near future - that's the game I will photograph and post the AAR here on LAF!  ;)

So our MULP and Gothic Horror group has now "officially" taken the plunge to SpecOps adventures! (and yes, Dracula's America will stay in the shadows for some more time... but I'll keep following this thread here on LAF!  :D

Cheers!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 28, 2017, 02:03:27 PM
Dammit, but you really know how to have a good time!   lol lol lol lol lol

I look forward to reading about your new SpecOps adventures and wish you all the best of luck. That's the beauty of vampires - they can pop up anywhere, anytime.  :D :D :D :D :D

Juno's Crew are such cool figures. I can totally see them working well as vampires.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Have fun, my friend!  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 28, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
Dammit, but you really know how to have a good time!   lol lol lol lol lol

I look forward to reading about your new SpecOps adventures and wish you all the best of luck. That's the beauty of vampires - they can pop up anywhere, anytime.  :D :D :D :D :D

Juno's Crew are such cool figures. I can totally see them working well as vampires.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Have fun, my friend!  :) :) :) :) :)

I am a very, very lucky old bastard, I know!  lol

Vamps are always cool! Seeing those wonderful "modern" miniatures from Spectra and Empress, I cannot stop thinking about MENA (Middle East / North Africa) insurgents and their ancestral relation with Assamite vampires...  ;)  And I've already been spotted around local toy stores looking for 1:50 scale die cast pick up trucks in order to convert them into Technicals for my "bad guys"...  

The fact is that injecting supernatural elements into modern conflict scenarios turns the darker and somber aspects of warfare into something manageable and really fun in the games table! The girls, for exemple, most of them come from operational backgrounds, but got a really good time designing and playing their games of a small private group of covert operatives - think "Charlie Angels" meet "HOMELAND", OMG!  :D

These are new waters for an old duck as myself, but let's see if a can put up a blog or something!

And thanks very much for the encouragement, pardner! Cheers!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 28, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
Since Dracula's America clever rules allows for fast and bloody indoors action, take a look a these Old West furniture resin pieces:

(https://hexy-shop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/wws_01.jpg)

From here:

https://hexy-shop.com/shop/terrain-buildings/sci-fi-modelling-basing/wild-west-basing-kit/ (https://hexy-shop.com/shop/terrain-buildings/sci-fi-modelling-basing/wild-west-basing-kit/)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: BlaxKleric on October 29, 2017, 08:29:45 AM
Since Dracula's America clever rules allows for fast and bloody indoors action, take a look a these Old West furniture resin pieces:

Cracking link dinohunterpoa - I've not heard of them before but that sites got some serious stuff. Many thanks  :-*
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 29, 2017, 09:49:04 AM
They're excellent. Thanks for sharing, Edu. Order placed already!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 29, 2017, 01:13:03 PM

You're always welcome, guys!  ;)

And don't forget to put the right "WANTED" posters all over your town!

(https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/479d22bfaa007/Bad-Girls-Cody-Zamora-s-Wanted-Poster-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 29, 2017, 01:36:08 PM
Okay, I'm going to bite. Who's Cody Zamora? She sounds mighty interesting.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 29, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
Okay, I'm going to bite. Who's Cody Zamora? She sounds mighty interesting.  :D

Vampifan, you're serious you don't know her? HERETIC!!!  :o

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Girls_(1994_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Girls_(1994_film))


(https://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/75/MPW-37541)

EDIT> This movie has a gallows rescue scene that is a Dracula's America game waiting to happen! Just make the girls vamps... of course!  :D

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 29, 2017, 04:36:46 PM
Ah! So that's who she is. Yes, I have seen the film but it was so long ago it had slipped my mind. I must watch it again soon. Thanks for reminding me!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 29, 2017, 06:19:58 PM
Ah! So that's who she is. Yes, I have seen the film but it was so long ago it had slipped my mind. I must watch it again soon. Thanks for reminding me!  :D

Make them vamps and that gallows rescue scene is a game waiting to be done!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 29, 2017, 11:01:29 PM
Make them vamps and that gallows rescue scene is a game waiting to be done!  :D

Now that's an idea worthy of a scenario!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 30, 2017, 01:22:52 AM
Now that's an idea worthy of a scenario!  :D :D :D :D :D

I really think so, specially with galloping horses and a speeding wagon!  :D

The film's rescue from the bad guys hideout and the final shootout are also action scenes that can work out as pretty good games - one can actually play a campaign of 3 games:

1- the rescue from the gallows;
2- the kidnapping (and 2.1 - possible following rescue from the enemy's lair);
3- the final shootout. 

As I've said: BAD GIRLS is a Dracula's America game waiting to be played!

 ;)

P.S.> While I was writing this, my GF just got the idea of playing that ideas as a modern-day SpecOps campaign set on some forsaken and war-torn country, OMG!  :o 

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 30, 2017, 09:31:54 AM
I really think so, specially with galloping horses and a speeding wagon!  :D

The film's rescue from the bad guys hideout and the final shootout are also action scenes that can work out as pretty good games - one can actually play a campaign of 3 games:

1- the rescue from the gallows;
2- the kidnapping (and 2.1 - possible following rescue from the enemy's lair);
3- the final shootout. 

As I've said: BAD GIRLS is a Dracula's America game waiting to be played!

 ;)

P.S.> While I was writing this, my GF just got the idea of playing that ideas as a modern-day SpecOps campaign set on some forsaken and war-torn country, OMG!  :o 

It has to be done! And by that I mean both ideas - Weird West and modern day.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 30, 2017, 09:43:39 AM
It has to be done! And by that I mean both ideas - Weird West and modern day.  :D

So let's split efforts: you take care of the Weird West part there and we do the SpecOps stuff around here!  THEN you come here to play "Spy Stuffy" with us... and next year we travel to UK to bring mayhem and carnage to some little Western town...  ;)

BTW: I've just shamelessly stolen from a friend recruited some very nice Forlorn Hope's ragged Somali Pirates... Planning to convert them to be used as Indonesian Pirates/Insurgents... I think that their Weird West equals would be some ragged and war-rugged Dark Confederates!  :D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on October 30, 2017, 03:44:58 PM
What options are there or will there be for customizing your summoned entities?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 30, 2017, 10:20:01 PM
So let's split efforts: you take care of the Weird West part there and we do the SpecOps stuff around here!  THEN you come here to play "Spy Stuffy" with us... and next year we travel to UK to bring mayhem and carnage to some little Western town...  ;)

I'll happily take care of the Weird West stuff.  8)
Much as I'd love to visit you in South America, I doubt if I can afford it on my meagre wage, but thanks for the kind offer. If I win the Lottery I'll let you know!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 30, 2017, 11:08:57 PM
I'll happily take care of the Weird West stuff.  8)
Much as I'd love to visit you in South America, I doubt if I can afford it on my meagre wage, but thanks for the kind offer. If I win the Lottery I'll let you know!  :D

Well, our home here is always open for you! And for everything else from the place where we live... well, you've seen the video of the Vampire Supermodels!  lol 

Hope to play some games with you next year on our UK tour!  ;)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on October 31, 2017, 09:16:57 AM
Well, our home here is always open for you! And for everything else from the place where we live... well, you've seen the video of the Vampire Supermodels!  lol 

Hope to play some games with you next year on our UK tour!  ;)

Yes, it breaks my heart not being able to meet the vampire supermodels... although if I did, I doubt if I'd ever want to leave!  lol lol lol lol lol

You, sir, are most welcome to visit me when you embark on your UK tour.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on October 31, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Yes, it breaks my heart not being able to meet the vampire supermodels... although if I did, I doubt if I'd ever want to leave!  lol lol lol lol lol

Some old friends of mine that live in other parts of the world say our place should be called "Hotel California", because once you come for spent the summer, it's like the song: "you can never leave"!  lol

You, sir, are most welcome to visit me when you embark on your UK tour.  :)

Thank you so much, pardner! I will carry along with me at least one of the Vampire Supermodels to make you smile!  ;)




Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dartfrog on November 05, 2017, 01:46:25 AM
Always welcome to a London game if you ever fall this way  ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 05, 2017, 01:57:36 AM
Always welcome to a London game if you ever fall this way  ;)

dartfrog, thank you very much!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 11, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
THE PLOT DEVICE: a new and gorgeous line of minis from Lucid Eye, sculpted by the great Steve Saleh (North Star's IHMN miniatures), and crying to be used on Dracula's America:

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Snapworks-Operative-Candy-People.jpg)

https://www.lucideyepublications.com/the-plot-device (https://www.lucideyepublications.com/the-plot-device)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on November 13, 2017, 03:08:53 PM
http://leadasbestosblog.blogspot.com/

Finally got the Congregation up on the blog! Stop by and have a look!

Sadly, still no real games yet, as one player is dragggggging his ass, but we will get there. Our two learning sessions have been fun, so hopefully soon!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 13, 2017, 05:45:24 PM

GREAT brushwork as usual, CONGRATULATIONS!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Looking forward to see the AARs... hopefully here are LAF, since I am from a long forgotten time when people used to put pictures here at LAF instead of directing to their blogs...  :D   

Cheers!

 
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on November 13, 2017, 08:08:19 PM
GREAT brushwork as usual, CONGRATULATIONS!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Looking forward to see the AARs... hopefully here are LAF, since I am from a long forgotten time when people used to put pictures here at LAF instead of directing to their blogs...  :D   

Cheers!

 


Well, I did this:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=103057.0

but no one is looking! ::)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 13, 2017, 08:54:26 PM
Well, I did this:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=103057.0

but no one is looking! ::)

I've seen it and I've said that:

GREAT!  :-*

 :D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 17, 2017, 10:51:31 PM

West Wind Miniatures has AWESOME figures for the Congregation:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vVSRPjr6xg4/V_d-5I3EGdI/AAAAAAAAD9w/f4yZrx7aRac3w_DWYR0CvZqXO52mh5ZFQCLcB/s1600/PA060012.JPG)

Pictures from here: http://flashman14.blogspot.com.br/2016/10/caribbean-horror-voodoo-wars-forces-of.html (http://flashman14.blogspot.com.br/2016/10/caribbean-horror-voodoo-wars-forces-of.html)

West Wind Voodoo minis: http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=70_119 (http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=70_119)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 18, 2017, 12:44:48 AM
West Wind Miniatures has AWESOME figures for the Congregation:

I didn't want to make a Congregation force until I saw these...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on November 18, 2017, 02:46:58 PM
Here are three of my Supernatural Hired Guns.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MIn0BlMss58/WgwQYY9F0hI/AAAAAAAAO3U/NG7szX0K6ewZUv5HWQaa9g9yTgO57ftlACLcBGAs/s640/Carpathian%2BGuard%252C%2BStitch%2BDoctor%2B%2526%2BSkinwalker%2B01.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SPuwBFnVAtc/WgwQX-hgVPI/AAAAAAAAO3Q/XfIlrAMHa0YuD8Qt1L02Y_btILZGyaRBwCLcBGAs/s640/Carpathian%2BGuard%252C%2BStitch%2BDoctor%2B%2526%2BSkinwalker%2B02.jpg)

From left to right are a Carpathian Guard, Stitch-Doctor and Skinwalker Shape-shifter. You can read more about them on my blog here - http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/draculas-america-supernatural-hired.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/draculas-america-supernatural-hired.html)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: horridperson on November 18, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Nice!  I just got the same set of hired guns along with my copy of rules.  I like the Carpathian so much I've been tracking Westwind and Old Glory Cossacks while wondering how well they would scale with my other figures.  I think your stich doctor has just about the right amount of gore.  What building are you using as your backdrop?  I'm familiar with your modern urban facades from other projects but I don't think I've seen this one before.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on November 18, 2017, 04:12:32 PM
Nice!  I just got the same set of hired guns along with my copy of rules.  I like the Carpathian so much I've been tracking Westwind and Old Glory Cossacks while wondering how well they would scale with my other figures.  I think your stich doctor has just about the right amount of gore.  What building are you using as your backdrop?  I'm familiar with your modern urban facades from other projects but I don't think I've seen this one before.

Many thanks, HP. The background picture is from the World Works Games TLX Deadfall Building Essentials set (they're specifically from the 6" walls). I created it for my Wild West and Weird West figures. I also have different backgrounds for sci-fi and fantasy settings as my "normal" contemporary background, which you are familiar with, just wouldn't look right with figures from those genres.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 18, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
Vampifan, your "doktor" is AWESOME!  :-*

BTW: new (at least for me) mini from North Star:

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/0/img11360.jpg)

http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=11360 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=11360)

 :)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on November 19, 2017, 09:44:51 AM
Vampifan, your "doktor" is AWESOME!  :-*

Many thanks, Edu.  :D

I saw that figure of Django earlier and he does indeed look impressive.  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 19, 2017, 09:58:41 AM
Many thanks, Edu.  :D

I saw that figure of Django earlier and he does indeed look impressive.  8)

A carved face, a cigar and a ragged grey uniform and he would looks like a perfect Jonah Hex to me!  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on November 20, 2017, 06:41:55 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: A good point about Jonah Hex! There are full rules for Bounty Hunters in Hunting Grounds, so Mr. Hex would be a natural fit for that...

Wayne over at Wargames Illustrated asked me to write some rules for using 'Django' (or Franco, as I believe they are calling him) in Dracula's America. These will either be in the accompanying issue of the magazine, or on their website (not sure which at this point)!

In DA, he is a mysterious drifter who might just show up to help out the underdog in a game- that portable Gatling gun can be a great equalizer, as long as it doesn't Jam...  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 20, 2017, 11:16:00 AM
@Dinohunterpoa: A good point about Jonah Hex! There are full rules for Bounty Hunters in Hunting Grounds, so Mr. Hex would be a natural fit for that...

Wayne over at Wargames Illustrated asked me to write some rules for using 'Django' (or Franco, as I believe they are calling him) in Dracula's America. These will either be in the accompanying issue of the magazine, or on their website (not sure which at this point)!

In DA, he is a mysterious drifter who might just show up to help out the underdog in a game- that portable Gatling gun can be a great equalizer, as long as it doesn't Jam...  8)

A very big YESSSSS!!!  :D

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on November 20, 2017, 11:43:01 AM
Here are four Supernatural Creatures that I recently painted. From left to right are the Temple Snake, the Swamp Baka, the Sasquatch and the Wendigo -

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LJtgwjzu8EE/Wg669U_DdMI/AAAAAAAAO3k/XY8WA1pPGjgUcbxfWlU_UNdMB1GyyUEBwCLcBGAs/s640/Temple%2BSnake%252C%2BSwamp%2BBaka%252C%2BSasquatch%2B%2526%2BWendigo%2B01.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_KKcXLkTxMQ/Wg66-AMCw0I/AAAAAAAAO3o/lNR3iSm1m-o24HOorawf0U5L2JbeJ81ewCLcBGAs/s640/Temple%2BSnake%252C%2BSwamp%2BBaka%252C%2BSasquatch%2B%2526%2BWendigo%2B02.jpg)

As always, you can read more about them on my blog here -

https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/draculas-america-supernatural-creatures.html (https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/draculas-america-supernatural-creatures.html)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Grimjack on November 20, 2017, 01:32:02 PM
The rules for Django are in the December WI magazine, Fenrir!

And the figure is available direct from the WI website or North Star - not pictured is the fact that he comes with his own coffin!

Now, when will someone make a comic book Jonah Hex for the game...?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Grimjack on November 21, 2017, 11:50:08 AM
Sat here looking at a pile of goodies on my desk, but one book has prevented me from working for the moment - can you guess which one?

https://www.facebook.com/WargamesIllustrated/photos/a.478618775566190.1073741828.478608872233847/1573385302756193/?type=3

Bravo, Fenrir, bravo - love the whole thing, right down to the Forsaken 7th Cav and the allusion to our favourite former Confederate officer bounty hunter!
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on November 22, 2017, 06:14:13 AM
@Grimjack:
Nice to see a physical copy of HG show up in the wild- and I'm glad you caught the Hex reference! When Nick and I were discussing models to go with the book, I may have mentioned a scar-faced ex-Reb for the Bounty Hunter figure... Here's hoping they go with it! ;)

Looks like I need to get myself a Django from Northstar, then- really happy he comes with his coffin!  8)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Grimjack on November 22, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
Mate, send me an email with your address and I'll get a Django posted your way.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on November 23, 2017, 10:49:27 AM
Ah, thanks very much my friend!

PM sent...  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: goon3423 on November 23, 2017, 09:57:06 PM
@Grimjack:
Nice to see a physical copy of HG show up in the wild- and I'm glad you caught the Hex reference! When Nick and I were discussing models to go with the book, I may have mentioned a scar-faced ex-Reb for the Bounty Hunter figure... Here's hoping they go with it! ;)

Looks like I need to get myself a Django from Northstar, then- really happy he comes with his coffin!  8)
This please. A Hex type has been needed for a long time. I’d love to see all those classic western comic types in miniature some day.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 24, 2017, 11:31:31 AM

Some Victorian Vampire Hunters from Bad Squiddo Games, observe the Quincey Morris figure with his Colt and Bowie knife straight from the pages of Bram Stoker's DRACULA:

(https://dqzrr9k4bjpzk.cloudfront.net/images/10152787/586549095.jpg)

http://badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/My-Last-Sunrise-Vampire-Gothic/c/24856247/offset=0&sort=addedTimeDesc (http://badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/My-Last-Sunrise-Vampire-Gothic/c/24856247/offset=0&sort=addedTimeDesc)

And their prey... (or not...)

(https://dqzrr9k4bjpzk.cloudfront.net/images/10152787/586469925.jpg)
(https://dqzrr9k4bjpzk.cloudfront.net/images/10152787/586485964.jpg)

 ;)


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Grimjack on November 24, 2017, 12:06:09 PM
This please. A Hex type has been needed for a long time. I’d love to see all those classic western comic types in miniature some day.

I sent email images, plus badgered a certain Nicholas at t'club last night - I think we may be going to see a comic book version soon...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on November 27, 2017, 06:09:03 AM
We can only hope!  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 28, 2017, 06:45:50 PM
The superb GODLESS limited series now on Netflix has a doomed town/apocalyptic last stand confrontation feeling very inspirational for Dracula's America games IMHO! ;)

(https://www.daytranslations.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/FacebookLke-DayTranslatonsLanguage-300x272.png)

Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Tracy George on January 16, 2018, 02:49:07 AM
I have done an in-depth review of the first supplement for Dracula's America called "Hunting Grounds." Very interesting read and content. If you like DA then I think you'll also love this supplement.
https://youtu.be/2L4E7HJSwJc (https://youtu.be/2L4E7HJSwJc)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: jetengine on January 19, 2018, 01:07:37 AM
I'd also recommend the Syfy TV show Wynona Earp for a modetn day Weird Western that may give inspiration.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on January 26, 2018, 02:10:55 AM
Rules Question: My Congregation got on the very wrong end of an "Armed Civilians" Supernatural Event. 3 dead and 2 downed in Turn 1!!! :'( :'( :'( o_o o_o

Anyways, in the Post-Game, my Boss, Veteran Arcanist w/ an Extra Grimoire, dies. I raise him as a Zombi, and the rules state he retains his Arcane Powers, but cannot advance. (Or be the Boss? Or is this a mistaken assumption?) I give the Grimoire to the next highest Grit Posse member so he can be the new Boss.

Do I get to run 2 Arcanists? Is my Zombi still the Boss AND an Arcanist? Or either/or? I'm sooo confused...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Fenrir on January 27, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
Howdo, folks! I've been having internet issues this last couple of weeks, so apologies for that!

@LeadAsbestos: Ouch, those were some angry civillians... Don't worry, your newly-Zombified Boss will continue leading your Posse as normal! They keep all their Arcane Powers up to that point, and will still count as your one Arcanist- they just cannot roll to Advance anymore.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: LeadAsbestos on January 27, 2018, 11:52:10 PM
Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: goon3423 on January 29, 2018, 01:35:01 AM
Any update on the bounty hunter?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: TheMimah on February 07, 2018, 09:17:10 PM
First post here on the forums, long time lurker. Just start playing tabe top war games. DA has got me hooked. Im running a dark confederacy posse.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: fred on February 07, 2018, 11:12:41 PM
First post here on the forums, long time lurker. Just start playing tabe top war games. DA has got me hooked. Im running a dark confederacy posse.

Welcome.

DA is a great game. Easy to understand the rules, but lots of choices and decisions to make in the game. And you don't need too many figures for a posse either.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Mindenbrush on February 08, 2018, 12:11:51 PM
I have just finished my NS Congregation Posse and in the process of putting Perry Ansar heads on some Foundry & Artizan cowboys to make up the numbers.

Pictures will follow when I get time as a box arrived from Northstar yesterday containing the Shadow Dragon Tong and the Forsaken Posse with Gatling Gun.

It is a bit addictive isn`t it as only Luisito has the ruleset in our Montreal group and yet I have painted more DA figures in the last 6 months than anything else.

Cheers,

Graham W
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: fred on February 08, 2018, 12:16:03 PM
Forsaken Posse with Gatling Gun.


Cheeky!

Yep lots of our group are digging out old figures or buying new figures. Most of us have figures for at least 2 posses.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Psychlic Bob on February 08, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
Had my second game on Tuesday and it was a blast (especially for the posse that threw the "1" for dynamite!) but we have one query. How do you get rid of a Shaken result (apart from with Snake Oil) or does it stay with the character for the whole game?
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: fred on February 08, 2018, 04:42:01 PM
You generally keep shaken for the whole game. There are a few supernatural abilities that can remove it.

We have found that it's fairly easy to down characters, but you have to close in to finish them off.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on February 19, 2018, 11:14:38 PM
Three very nice minis for the Red Hand Coven:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUJV5_rW0AYFrfe.jpg:large)


And for their opposition:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRK3p0CWkAErx1n.jpg:large)

 ;)


Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on February 20, 2018, 03:23:08 PM
Really cool figures, Dino.  8) They certainly look the part and will fit in to Dracula's America very well indeed.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: dinohunterpoa on February 20, 2018, 06:15:24 PM
Really cool figures, Dino.  8) They certainly look the part and will fit in to Dracula's America very well indeed.  :D

Already in this week's shopping list! (and I even don't play DA... yet!)  :D
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: The Somnambulist on March 28, 2018, 09:19:27 PM
Does anyone know where the big fella is from?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nPCrZhLSp8A/WTu5F7uFjmI/AAAAAAABNPU/SpJs735Sn1A6FYGOYhluk1IsVzDQF7HDwCLcB/s640/18882034_301426443638481_3048304596663977141_n.jpg)

 ;)
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Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: Vampifan on March 28, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
He's the Nightmare Horror from Horror Stories. North Star have him for sale. See here - http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=231&page=1 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=231&page=1)
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: The Somnambulist on March 29, 2018, 07:14:20 AM
He's the Nightmare Horror from Horror Stories. North Star have him for sale. See here - http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=231&page=1 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=231&page=1)

Thanks, I knew I'd seen him on there somewhere.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: thebinmann on February 21, 2019, 09:35:59 PM


In the meanwhile, check out the gorgeous Knuckeduster Gunfighter's Ball line of figures - they fit very well with Artizan/Dracula's America miniatures:

(http://knuckleduster.com/oldsite/images/owsize500.jpg)

http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_70 (http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_70)


There's some good comparison pictures of Old West miniatures here:

http://blazingdice.blogspot.com.br/2013/11/old-west-figure-manufacture-comparison.html (http://blazingdice.blogspot.com.br/2013/11/old-west-figure-manufacture-comparison.html)

Hi

Are those the new heroic 32 Kunckleduster minis?

Thanks
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: goon3423 on February 24, 2019, 04:31:16 AM
Hi

Are those the new heroic 32 Kunckleduster minis?

Thanks
Those are the old ones but I would highly, highly recommend the new Gunfighters Ball minis. They are just fantastic & scale well with just about everything.
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: thebinmann on February 24, 2019, 01:09:40 PM
Thanks

I have old foundry though...
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: thebinmann on February 24, 2019, 06:36:07 PM
Does anyone know where the big fella is from?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nPCrZhLSp8A/WTu5F7uFjmI/AAAAAAABNPU/SpJs735Sn1A6FYGOYhluk1IsVzDQF7HDwCLcB/s640/18882034_301426443638481_3048304596663977141_n.jpg)

 ;)

He's not on the site anymore, has he moved?

Thanks
Title: Re: Dracula's America.
Post by: goon3423 on February 28, 2019, 08:42:54 PM
Thanks

I have old foundry though...
Then go with the older sculpts.