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Offline dice shaker

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Green British uniforms?
« on: June 28, 2017, 08:05:52 PM »
Good evening,

 did some British soldiers have green uniforms in France? Or someone painted old photos in the wrong colours? Are they perhaps ANZAC or Canadians?

Best regards   Sebastian
« Last Edit: June 28, 2017, 08:23:38 PM by dice shaker »

Offline Leigh Metford

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 01:23:04 AM »
The only green, as opposed to khaki-green, British field uniforms I'm aware of in this period are the army uniforms dyed police dark green worn by B Special constables in Northern Ireland during 'the Troubles'.   

Offline commissarmoody

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 08:08:13 AM »
What year are we talking about? BEF or After Normandy?
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Offline Eclaireur

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 04:26:01 PM »
Leigh Metford - don't forget also the cotton battledress issued in Italy that was of similar design but a greener shade of khaki than the standard woolen one. I'm not sure whether any of these made their way to Normandy?
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Offline Burnt65

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 04:42:46 PM »
Canadian battle dress was a more green shade than British khaki

Offline dadlamassu

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 05:51:31 PM »
The British Army Denim Battledress was of a distinctly green shade. Worn by Home Guard and also by the army etc as a light working dress in barracks and also as a light version of battledress. 
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Offline Plynkes

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 06:14:44 PM »
Also jungle green BD from mid-war on. Though probably not much chance of bumping into anyone wearing that in the jungles of northern France. :)

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Offline Etranger

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 02:01:21 AM »
As this is in the Interwar section I must ask are you asking about WWI or WWII uniforms?
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Offline MartinR

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 07:18:02 AM »
As above, denims were green, but only introduced at the same time as Battle Dress in the late 1930s. WW1 era Service Dress had more of a green tint to it, but all khaki uniforms can look greenish in certain light conditions, particularly in woodland. Even postwar Strichtarn has the magical ability to change colour to match its surroundings.

Something to do with earth tones and the human eye.
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Offline dadlamassu

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 08:01:08 AM »
Going back to WW1 then the US army uniform looked a bit like the British one and was definitely greenish in colour.

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2017, 10:40:24 AM »
Something to do with earth tones and the human eye.

... and probably because the serge was made using brown and green fibres in proportion. The battledress made to order in the U.S. from 1940 tended to be 'greener' as it had more green fibres in the mix. 

A search for "Battledress 1940 pattern" will give you a range of shades for genuine items in different light (although be wary of photos of reproduction items), although the 1938 pattern ones (pleated breast pockets is the most obvious giveaway) tend to be 'browner' in the main. That the RAF and RN referred to the Army as 'brown jobs' (when feeling generous), would imply that the predominate colour was more brown than green in the main.

Offline MartinR

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2017, 02:57:49 PM »
It would be helpful if the OP could come up with a specific year (or decade), or ideally pictures of the uniforms in question, particularly whether they are SD or BD.

As noted above, original British Battle Dress is generally brownish (well, mine certainly is), although my 41 dated greatcoat is distinctly green.




Offline dice shaker

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 11:52:30 PM »
Hello,

 this are the pictures, I mean. France, 1917. Sorry for using Interwar.

Yours,   Sebastian

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 12:03:26 AM »
That colour is the effect of someone 'colourising' or tinting a black and white photo. They haven't managed it especially well, hence the green hue.
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Offline Truscott Trotter

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Re: Green British uniforms?
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2017, 01:55:15 AM »
Had a horrible idea this might be the case  lol

 

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