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Offline Osmoses

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #150 on: January 05, 2021, 12:35:36 AM »
With the new rules needing more command bases, I've added another 6. Here they all are in a bit of a 'nobori matsuri.'




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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #151 on: January 05, 2021, 04:56:41 PM »
Impressive like a bunch of kurosawa movies.

I admire your scientific approach to finding rules as well.  :)

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #152 on: January 06, 2021, 07:17:59 PM »
I've put a rough draft of the rules I'm currently using for big battles on my 'blog. These are based on Simon Miller's 'For King and Parliament' rules so they are grid-based.
https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com/2021/01/06/rules-download/

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #153 on: January 07, 2021, 09:50:18 PM »
Thank you for posting these, I’m a big fan of FKaP.

I’ve had a couple of read throughs, and think I get most of the ideas. I suppose the most unusual thing for a set of wargames rules is to just have one unit type - but I suppose this represents the combine arms style of Sengoku warfare in the army level scale you are looking to represent.

My figures are 10mm on 40mm square bases, so I will have a think about how many to use for a Sonae - for FKaP we use 3x1 bases for a standard regiment, which works nicely with 2 shot and 1 pike. I’m wondering about using 6 bases for a sonae - perhaps with 1 as a command / marker base as you have. But this would be a lot of figures for a unit!

Have you thought about something similar to the “more pikes” rule in FKaP to represent those sonae better equipped for melee combat?


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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #154 on: January 08, 2021, 10:15:26 AM »
I'll definitely add some more details to the rules eventually, I really just wanted to get a basic outline out first so I could link to them whenever anyone asks what rules I'm using. I certainly want to add rules for commander attributes which I think are important to have even if it slows the game down a bit having to reference a card or something every time they want to change an order.

The advantage of a grid system is that you could use 3 base units to start with. Arranged in a triangle, they'd look a bit like the symbols on battle maps in Japanese books. My units are about 50-60 figures, which, doing both sides and moving towards 20 units a side, is a lot of work even in 6mm. The time could have been reduced considerably by not doing sashimono on most of the figures, as well as getting more utility out of the figures, but they look so much better in a 'Kurosawa style.' It's certainly something that needs a fair bit of planning. 

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #155 on: January 10, 2021, 11:54:18 AM »
First unit for Ukita Naoie. Naoie was a classic example of the Sengoku daimyō: sly, devious, treacherous and utterly ruthless.

As a bit of trivia, if you look up 'first assassination by firearm,' the example usually given is James Stewart, Earl of Moray in 1570. However, 4 years earlier in 1566, Mimura Iechika was assassinated by 2 men using matchlocks on Naoie's order.

« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 12:34:25 AM by Osmoses »

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #156 on: January 16, 2021, 06:40:29 PM »
Added a 2nd unit for Ukita Naoie. This makes a grand total of 40 bases for the 'sonae-based' project.



All the bases:



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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #157 on: January 26, 2021, 11:54:15 PM »
After sorting out some 'big battle' rules, I had a go at some rules for smaller battles. These are the 'brigade level' rules to complement the 'army level' ones. It's another variant of the 'Simon Miller' system (To the Strongest/For King and Parliament). Early days yet, but reasonably encouraging.
More information on the 'blog: https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com/2021/01/26/testing-small-battle-rules/

Pics of the battle:






And some fish:

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2021, 03:43:55 PM »
Quite stunning.  8)

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #159 on: January 27, 2021, 05:34:51 PM »
Great looking game.

I’ve had a quick read through your rule thoughts, and like them, I think this scale of engagement is more in keeping with my forces than the sonae level ones, so I will read more.

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #160 on: January 27, 2021, 08:33:13 PM »
Understandable. I think you need quite large units in terms of figures to get the feel of sonae, at least 30 figures, preferably more. And if you have 12 units a side, that turns into a lot of figures.

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2021, 05:16:42 PM »
Added another 4 field bases. These were inspired by the opening sequence in last year's  Taiga drama "Kirin ga Kuru."



And with the other fields:


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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2021, 08:36:26 PM »
Those fields look great - your scenery for this project is excellent


Understandable. I think you need quite large units in terms of figures to get the feel of sonae, at least 30 figures, preferably more. And if you have 12 units a side, that turns into a lot of figures.

My units for FKaP are 3 x 40x40mm stands, so are around 30-40 figures - but they are based with 10 or so figures on a single base, so much harder to arrange as a Sonae.

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #163 on: January 29, 2021, 11:57:23 AM »
Yes, can be difficult if you're using bases with one troop type on them. You'd ideally need at least 6 to get a mix for a sonae, and then there may be an issue with mixing sashimono. You could just use your normal 3 or 4 stand units as sonae anyway. Depends what kind of games you'd be playing most I guess.

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Re: 6mm Sengoku Jidai
« Reply #164 on: February 08, 2021, 11:16:07 AM »
Added two more field bases in the same style as the recent ones. These have some farmers added, which are plastic railway model figures.





And a screenshot from the Taiga drama which provided the inspiration:


 

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