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Author Topic: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame  (Read 21989 times)

Offline eMills

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2017, 09:47:48 PM »
Hopefully they will keep the table clutter (all the endless marker) reasonable small.
??? I am amazed. I have more or less every IA minis, what was not in heroic 28mm scale?
General Weiss was the worst offender of the scale shenanigans. He is more like a large 20mm figure. But there is a lot of scale variation across the line. Not height variation. That I'm fine with.

Also, and the bigger issue, IA figures had piss poor QC.

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2017, 09:55:55 PM »
because it's FFG
Sorry, I still do NOT get it, what is wrong with FFG?  ???
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Offline Predatorpt

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2017, 09:56:15 PM »
There's already a tutorial for painting Luke Skywalker, where you can see the assembly of the figure:



And here's what the painter has to say about the figure size:

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Hi! This Luke measures 35mm in height compared to the IA Luke who measures 30mm in height (and the base measures 27mm across)

Offline Agis

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2017, 09:58:02 PM »
General Weiss was the worst offender of the scale shenanigans. He is more like a large 20mm figure. But there is a lot of scale variation across the line. Not height variation. That I'm fine with.

Also, and the bigger issue, IA figures had piss poor QC.
Ahh Weiss, I presume you are talking about the mini that was looking out of the walker?
I was always under the impression that it was done deliberately to make the walker look bigger.
Worked for me.
And yes the minis are not top notch compared to todays quality in minis.

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2017, 10:02:44 PM »
There's already a tutorial for painting Luke Skywalker, where you can see the assembly of the figure:



Interesting video, nice enough mini, but sad that they did not kept the IA scale...

Offline gamer Mac

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2017, 10:10:16 PM »
So I am still unsure with the comments and the pictures are they going to scale with Imperial assault?
Some of the figures in the pictures look the same as IA figures I already have, still not cheap though

Offline eMills

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2017, 10:46:55 PM »
Ahh Weiss, I presume you are talking about the mini that was looking out of the walker?
I was always under the impression that it was done deliberately to make the walker look bigger.
Worked for me.
And yes the minis are not top notch compared to todays quality in minis.
That's the one. And the reason I assume they did it too. Still, it was just the worst offender, not the only by far.

@gamer Mac: I don't think they will mix that well, but we'll need to see more comparisons to know for sure.

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2017, 11:42:53 PM »
Sorry, I still do NOT get it, what is wrong with FFG?
FFG abandoned Battlelore 2E because they are not interested in smaller scale (human[oid]) miniatures.
So I am still unsure with the comments and the pictures are they going to scale with Imperial assault?
If we assume for the sake of argument that both IA and Legion have consistent scales, using Luke as a guide, it looks like a 2-5mm difference in Legion's favor.

Then again ...

http://biggerluke.wikidot.com/bigger-luke
« Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 11:45:36 PM by Manchu »

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2017, 02:23:22 AM »
Well, I'm interested.


Offline olyreed

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2017, 09:02:27 AM »
Excuse my stupidness, if the minis are 35mm, would that make them 1/48 scale?

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2017, 09:04:45 AM »
Deceived.  :(
perhaps i'd take a look on the rule mechanics. But i found that a 20mm ( sort of FOW) would have been a success. ( having in mind the quality of SW: Rebellion miniatures.
That would have let te gamers purchase whole companies or big vehicles.
Since the original expanded universe lead by WEG to the PC games like  EMpire at war, Rebels had a wide range of vehicles ( refurbished, outdated or repurposed - like the snowspeeders- ) Obviously the Rebellion based his surviveal on Guerrilla warfare but still had it strongholds, safe worlds, and factoryhomeworlds ( Calamari is a good example of  Space yards) i can recall heavy vehicles like the Heavy tracker, the LAAV Freerunners, and several outdated tanks from the EU on Pc games, that could have bring back to life as miniatures. They're no match for the mighty Imperial Army indeed, but could have been a great game. Just imagine a FOW game and exchange the minis and vehicles with those of SW. I'd probably keep using my WEG's armies by now.

Offline Keeper Nilbog

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2017, 02:54:59 PM »
I would think that if this is successful, we will probably see further down the line an 'army scale' games - somewhat as they did with X-Wing and then Armada.

Especially if they want to get AT-AT's in the mix.

Hopefully, will spread past the OS/T, as I quite fancy a Droid Army.

Offline Agis

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2017, 04:08:03 PM »
For Prequel based stuff, that would certainly work.
Grand epic scale battles don't make any sense in the OT. They're rebels striking from hidden bases, not armies marching into battle.  
Ahem, wasn't the Battle of Hoth in Ep V a big battle?
I can really see potential for combined arms 6mm / 1/270 scale battles in Star Wars! Walkers, Snow speeder etc

And yes even better for Ep II and III!

FFG abandoned Battlelore 2E because they are not interested in smaller scale (human[oid]) miniatures....
Got it, since I never heard of Battlelore, I simple did not knew...


Excuse my stupidness, if the minis are 35mm, would that make them 1/48 scale?
More or less, all the xx mm numbers are no real scales anyway...

Offline Redmao

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2017, 04:15:01 PM »
Bigger miniatures... Primaris Stormtroopers!!!
For the Emperor... well the other one. lol

Offline DivisMal

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Re: Star Wars: Legion large scale FFG ground combat minis wargame
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2017, 07:05:43 PM »
Ahem, wasn't the Battle of Hoth in Ep V a big battle?
I can really see potential for combined arms 6mm / 1/270 scale battles in Star Wars! Walkers, Snow speeder etc

And yes even better for Ep II and III!
Got it, since I never heard of Battlelore, I simple did not knew...

More or less, all the xx mm numbers are no real scales anyway...

Sure thing!

Hoth was what Star Wars meant for me growing up! And it's pretty big. Way too big to make it with 28mm. And the same is probably true for Endor.

So yeah. 6-15mm would have worked, and 15s would also have allowed for characters!

 

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