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Author Topic: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)  (Read 12126 times)

Offline Utgaard

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Absolutely fantastic painting and presentation - especially the pavise is just incredible  :-*

Offline Curis

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The Unreleased Warhammer General
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2018, 12:54:11 PM »
Thanks for all the comments!

This miniature is a mystery – an unreleased Warhammer treasure from the vaults of Citadel Miniatures.  Who is he?  Why have I got (perhaps) the only casting in existence?


Could this be a dark horse on a dark horse?

This casting was a gift from Marcus Ansell of Wargames Foundry (thanks Marcus). The tab (“GENERAL” and “ ©  GW 1987″) shows its provenance as a piece of classic Warhammer – but beyond that everything else is a mystery.  Who sculpted it?  What range was it destined for?  Why was it not released?


“A horse, a horse, my Romano-Germanic kingdom for a horse.”

The vibe of the figure is more historical than fantastical – the moustache, crested helm and scalemail give it a very Romano-Germanic kingdom vibe.  It feels like an Alan or Michael Perry sculpt judging by this face and care put into the armour detailing.  In fact it’s a bit too historically accurate to fit in with Citadel’s F3 Barbarian or F6 Barbarian Raider ranges, or the ADD21 Advanced Dungeons & Dragons mounted barbarian.  The closest thing released by Citadel are the F7 Mounted Barbarian Raiders.


F7 Mounted Barbarian Raiders.  Image from solegends.

The Mounted Barbarian Raiders were released at a time when the line between historical and fantasy figures was blurred, with Warhammer’s Empire, Norse, Bretonnian and Dogs of War ranges doing double-service as various historical Europeans.  It’s conceivable that Citadel had plans for a Warhammer race with a strong Romano-Germanic design elements, and this General was a testpiece.

I gave my General one of the F7 horses as it’s coetaneous, and he deserves a bodyguard of these classics at a future point.  I modelled the horse forward on the raised base so that when the planned regiment ranks up he will ride slightly above and ahead.


Then as I was researching colours a thought struck me.  Is this mystery figure a … Blandford Warrior?  He fits beautifully with the released Blandford Warriors in terms of style and scale.


The 13th (Blandford) Warrior.

The Medieval Warlords book comprises seven chapters each detailing a different warlord, and Games Workshop released miniatures for only six of these characters.  The warlord that appears as a chapter but not a miniature was Genseric – general of one of the most famous Romano-Germanic kingdoms.  I think this figure could be him.

Genseric led the Vandals from the heartlands of the crumbling Roman Empire to Africa and around the Mediterranean region until they stormed Rome itself, looting its treaures. The incident stuck in the West’s poplar imagination, and ever since the word “vandal” has been a byword for destroying property.


Genseric sacked Rome until politely asked to stop it by Pope Leo I, AD455.

I used the Karl Briullov painting above as the basis for my miniature’s colour scheme.  I love the satanically-black horse implying he’s the Pope’s archnemesis – but the menace is rather undermined by the pink leggings and ruby red shoes.


I painted the shield with an Arianist symbol – I’d like to stress this was the form of Christianity that took off in the Romano-Germanic kingdoms and was named after Arius and NOTHING TO DO WITH ARYANISM.  (After all those “arian symbol german” google searches I think I’ve been put on a list.)


Genseric and his bucellarius on the outskirts of Carthage.


Not Genseric.

Regardless of the figure’s true identity, it’s now definitely part of my Late Imperial Roman army and will get some outings in SAGA when I’ve painted enough for a 4-point warband … coming soon.

If you’ve got any theories or information on the figure, please please let me know in the comments.

More of my miniatures at: http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/
Painting tutorials at: https://www.patreon.com/ninjabread
« Last Edit: September 27, 2018, 12:56:25 PM by Curis »

Offline bluechi

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2018, 08:26:10 PM »
very nice figure.....Geiserich....really interesting Person for Furor Teutonicus/ bellum barbaricus.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2018, 08:52:44 PM by bluechi »

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2018, 08:42:55 PM »
Cracking figure, & a superb addition to your collection oh & of course fabulous painting 8) 8) 8)

Offline Keith

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2018, 09:08:30 PM »
Beautifully done.
Definitely looks like a Perry sculpt to me.
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Offline Andym

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2018, 09:11:17 AM »
Brilliant! You yet again show an amazing talent for bringing old, beat up lead, up to date and make them look stunning! :o

Offline Mad Doc Morris

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2018, 11:05:37 AM »
Followed your progress on Twitter, only recently found this thread here. Marvellous paintjobs, really brings these minis to life. Particularly enjoy that you tracked down some of the illustrations they were inspired by.

The latest addition is rather curious indeed. The miniature sports an accurately sculpted Roman Niedermörmter/Imperial Italic H helmet, even down to the missing cheek-guards of the only original on exhibition at Bonn. Also the scabbard has a distinctive Late Roman suspension, and clothes and shoes resemble the period's fashion.
Given these details and the Perrys' love for the period, it's most likely one of their sculpts. It could very well represent a 'sub-Roman' chieftain who uses fragments of Roman equipment – perhaps meant to supplement (or start?) a range of 'historically informed' barbarians? Maybe there's another McBride artwork yet to discover?

Anyway, cool stuff! 8)

Offline Engel

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2018, 10:56:20 AM »
This is just brilliant!

Love the "old man yells and cloud" inspiration...  lol

Offline Paul Richardson

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Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2018, 02:13:26 PM »
I agree that the figure looks like a Perry sculpt. You could then contact the Perrys via the Perry Miniatures website and ask them about it. They might remember, although it was a long time ago and they've sculpted quite a few figures since 1987.

 

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