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Offline Furt

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 07:27:13 AM »
Not sure how I post here. I have just posted one to the FS FB page.

I can't find your photo on the Facebook Page?

To post images here you can simply click the insert image button in the editor and place the image link between the bracketed img tags.
A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2017, 07:41:39 AM »
Sorry, my techxpertise doesn't extend to that.  :(

I have sent you a Friend request and will share the pics to you on FB if that's OK? Feel free to insert them in this thread.  :)
Cheers,
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Offline OSHIROmodels

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 08:40:06 AM »
James, I admit it does seem like a collectable "bare" lead miniatures game James, and I have my reservations too, but I don't think it will work exactly that way.

Regardless Footsore have said that they will be just 'normal' 28mm miniatures which I suppose we can do with whatever we like.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that they'll do 'normal' packs of figures without the bumpf  :)

Offline rumacara

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2017, 01:49:20 PM »
Following with great interest but also with some reservations on what will be and how will be released. :)

Poiter50 a link for me too please. :D
Always interested to see other peoples ideas and no you didnt posted here on LAF.
Bad boy... lol

James, happy to convert some stuff for you if need. :D
« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM by rumacara »

Offline rumacara

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2017, 04:22:58 PM »
The following photos/miniatures are from our member Poiter50.
Some really nice figures on there.
Waiting for your closeups of the vigiles. ;)

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2017, 04:25:58 PM »
Thanks Rui. If we have a sunny day tomorrow, I will see what I can do about the Vigiles.  ;)

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 11:22:27 AM »
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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 12:48:44 PM »
Well the figures do look very nice.

Obviously though, several LAFers, including NevisFr, rumacara and Poiter50 have been building their own gangs of Rome for a long while now, including much creative converting of figures.
Is it just me, or is it therefore slightly irksome to see an idea which has been the subject of several very creative and original homemade projects, hijacked and commercialised like this, and turned into a 'system'... ?

Appreciate nobody has a monopoly on good ideas, and perhaps the whole 'Gangs of Rome' thing is a well established sub-genre which has been around for a while and had passed me by, except for the guys who have been charting their own excellent projects here on LAF.

But it leaves a bit of a bad taste in the mouth to me  :?

Offline westwaller

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 01:26:09 PM »
I see your point Captain Blood, but I guess no ideas like this are truly original. I just thought, oh look a Roman Gang Sagaish skirmish type thing when I saw the announcement on the Footsore FB page. It may well be that this project has been in development for several years- maybe a backburner thing that has been unleashed or perhaps just a niche in the market was spotted (after all,it does seem that small scale skirmish rules are popular at the moment) Either way it means more miniatures being produced and more people buying them which is after all what a miniature company such as Footsore need to do. As long is it doesn't distract too much from their forthcoming Viking and Norman ranges, I don't mind.

Offline arget8

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 01:33:57 PM »
The way I see it, they have found a potential new market to get into and as a business it was too tempting to not give it a shot. Also, I know that the guys at Footsore tend to sculpt things that interest them specifically. It could be that one of the fellows over there saw someones Roman street gang project and thought it was awesome, but couldn't find any rules they liked for it, nor any miniatures.

I'm willing to give Footsore the benefit of the doubt because while having exploded in popularity over the last few years, they are not some corporate entity that will push a game with no soul in order to sell miniatures.

Offline Mad Doc Morris

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2017, 01:55:25 PM »
an idea which has been the subject of several very creative and original homemade projects, hijacked and commercialised like this, and turned into a 'system'

Well, I guess that almost every project on that theme of the last 15 years or so was inspired by commercial products like Rome, or Spartacus. (In turn, these drew from The Sopranos, Gladiator, Gangs of New York etc.) Beyond that there are several book series by the likes of John Maddox Roberts, Steven Saylor, or Lindsey Davis, all dealing with 'mob warfare' in Ancient Rome. Essentially it's all laid out in the original sources already, real goldmines of gossip.

Thus, to be honest, I don't really see that Footsore have 'hijacked' any hobby project. Rather they've drawn inspiration from the same sources. Would be the same as me claiming that Nervisfr & co just copied my collection of Roman mobsters from a decade ago which I never cared to show online. Clearly Footsore are aiming for aesthetics established by the TV shows mentioned above. One may not like that or their concept in general (for the record, I'm yet undecided), but as a dedicated miniatures range it is new and original.

Wargaming as an increasingly commercialised hobby is a very relevant, yet different topic.

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2017, 02:06:25 PM »
Looks and sounds great, and will be a complete project, with terrain and all! I'm pretty excited.

Not so sure about the hijacked idea thing. Everyone gets inspired somehow. HBO'S Rome, Spartacus, Song of Shadows and Dust, the threads here, the fiction, the actual source material... Who knows? And more importantly, does it matter?

Offline Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2017, 02:22:58 PM »
Ganesha Games did a set of rules last year. But the miniatures are the more important aspect anyway (with apologies to all you rules authors out there!)  ;D

Offline Poiter50

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2017, 02:31:10 PM »
As one of those who has started a collection but been stymied by a lack of rules, I have no problem with Footsore putting out a set. This is a golden age of new rules, many of which have a similar background, era or period. It sounds like Footsore's set may not be quite what I seek but I am willing to give them a go when they appear. Other companies will benefit from this with buildings and other terrain that will suit. The interest in Roman buildings has suddenly increased among my group of fellow gamers here in West Oz.

Well the figures do look very nice.

Obviously though, several LAFers, including NevisFr, rumacara and Poiter50 have been building their own gangs of Rome for a long while now, including much creative converting of figures.
Is it just me, or is it therefore slightly irksome to see an idea which has been the subject of several very creative and original homemade projects, hijacked and commercialised like this, and turned into a 'system'... ?

Appreciate nobody has a monopoly on good ideas, and perhaps the whole 'Gangs of Rome' thing is a well established sub-genre which has been around for a while and had passed me by, except for the guys who have been charting their own excellent projects here on LAF.

But it leaves a bit of a bad taste in the mouth to me  :?

Offline Captain Blood

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Re: Gangs of Rome
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2017, 03:34:52 PM »
Just me then :)

I do understand there are lots of points of inspiration for this kind of thing out there. It just feels like another example of someone setting out to 'own' an idea that various other people already had. Happens in wargaming all the time I'm sure. Just my innate, rebellious, freedom-loving attitude I guess...  ;) I always enjoy seeing what wargamers and modellers create out of their own imaginations and talents. I don't enjoy seeing wargamers being spoon-fed packaged products. I appreciate though, that 90% of wargamers seem to LOVE being spoon-fed, judging from the huge popularity of branded 'systems' here and elsewhere... )
For many people, it's a golden age of wargaming where every good idea and setting is turned into a product that can be bought and played without having to do anything more than spend money. Personally, I used to like seeing people creating things for themselves... I understand it's a minority view though...

 

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