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Author Topic: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?  (Read 4581 times)

Offline smirnoff

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Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« on: October 13, 2017, 11:29:13 AM »
Gents
I'm looking for orbats, wargame army lists and info for the Polish/Lithuanian armies for the 1600-29 wars mainly the war of 1621–25 and the war of 1626–29.
All help gratefully received....

Offline Baron von Wreckedoften

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 06:19:54 PM »
I have army lists for George Gush and Field of Glory.  Are these of interest to you?
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Offline smirnoff

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2017, 06:27:11 PM »
Indeed they are Baron

Offline M.P.

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2017, 02:06:40 AM »
First question  - what languages do you can read? There is a great book about polish-swedish wars called sveriges kriegs t.2  (which is in swedish but there is also a polish translation) as well as wojskowość polska doby wojen polsko szwedzkich : kryzys mocarstwa. These are the most comprehensive books on PLC warfare and polish swedish wars of 1620s. If you need translation, let me know what particular battles are you interested in and I'll search i there areany orbat for them.

Imho the biggest problem here is lack of historically accurate polish minis for that period except foundry winged hussars. No proper cossack style cavalry, if you would like to convert other minis I'm more than inclinedto send you period engravings of such.

Regards,
    Tom
My roleplaying/wargaming blog: barbaricfrontier.blogspot.com

Offline smirnoff

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2017, 07:12:16 AM »
Hi Tom
I only read English.
I will be doing this in 15mm but any images gratefully received.

Offline Baron von Wreckedoften

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2017, 10:09:33 AM »
I also have a DBR list for the 1576-1631 period.  If you PM me your snail mail address, I can post you photocopies, as both the Gush and FOGR lists are very long (2 full pages each); alternatively, with a private email address, I could scan them and email them to you.

Offline smirnoff

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2017, 10:43:08 AM »
Many thanks Baron
PM sent

Offline Baron von Wreckedoften

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 11:04:33 AM »
Message received.  Will try to get something over to you today.

Offline M.P.

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 03:16:15 PM »
Ok, I'll post sime pics tomorrow :), oh and check kadrinazi.blogspot.com his the specialist in this period.

Offline smirnoff

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 12:51:27 PM »
Anyone seen 'Wojskowosc polska w dobie wojny polsko-szwedzkiej 1626-1629 Kryzys mocarstwa' (Polish military in the age of the Polish-Swedish war 1626-1629. Crisis of a power) by Sikora in English translation?
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 12:53:54 PM by smirnoff »

Offline M.P.

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 02:17:03 PM »
Unfortunately there isn't. If you wait a week or so, I'll translate info you need.

Offline smirnoff

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 05:06:53 PM »
Brilliant
Thanks

Offline M.P.

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2017, 10:01:48 PM »
Ok now I'll post stuff that is almost 100% from 1620s, next time I'll post stuff from the early 1630s.

 


















Look at the mix of eastern vambraces with iron gauntlet -quite typical for that period




Offline Golgotha

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2017, 11:47:55 PM »
For slightly earlier you may want to watch for inspiration:
1612

Likewise

In 1/72 you can get stunning winged hussars by Zvezda see http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1315

I know its not exactly what your looking for but also given Osprey's Pikeman's Lament an army containing winged hussars may be gaining more interest...

Offline M.P.

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Re: Polish-Lithuanian Armies 1621-29?
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2017, 03:03:54 AM »
Zvezda hussars are great, but they are more for 1670s-1690s. Too different arms and armor for 1620s.


 

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