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Offline gringo

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 06:37:45 PM »
italwars

thanks for your input...you might be right about
the colonial section....period straddles both and
the Chinese were involved :D

will  send personal message
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Offline ichwillauch

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2017, 07:42:38 PM »
Maybe a stupid question, but can I use the manchu imperials from the Opium war range for the tonkin 1883 conflict?

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2017, 11:36:12 PM »
i'm sure you can use the rifle armed Chineese...the French clashed quite a few time Vs the Imperial Chinese..and the Pavillon Noirs were in fact not simply bandits but proxies of Chinese Gvt..even lead by Chinese generals

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2017, 12:12:07 AM »
for the Uniforms of Vietnamese Imperial Army scroll this book:

http://collections.quaibranly.fr/#0a53397c-ffa1-4f55-99c1-f3e904345c74

but as i'm sure you'll be very disappointed that the Musée Quai Branly do not allow to download those splendid images..you can find some of them here..that i not only downloaded but also printed thanks to my office laser colour printer (i'm Italian  ;)

http://parissaigon.blog.lemonde.fr/page/7/


« Last Edit: December 02, 2017, 12:19:24 AM by italwars »

Offline gringo

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2017, 09:47:36 AM »
Ichwillauch as Italwars says you will be abale to use my Imperial Chinese
I will be adding rifle armed Chinese as well as Black flags..........

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2017, 09:49:25 AM »
Italwars

thanks for posting these images as I have only seen
a fraction before ;)

cheers
Ged
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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2017, 10:53:52 AM »
Maybe a stupid question, but can I use the manchu imperials from the Opium war range for the tonkin 1883 conflict?

In my opinion, you can use the officer, standard bearer and soldiers without firearms but not the rest. In 1883, the chinese army had been reformed and most soldiers had modern uniforms and modern rifles - correct ammunitions and training being another problem... :D
"The enemy? His sense of duty was no less than yours, I deem. You wonder what his name is, where he came from. And if he was really evil at heart. What lies or threats led him on this long march from home. If he would not rather have stayed there ... in peace. War will make corpses of us all."

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2017, 11:08:09 AM »
Siaba
couldn't agree more...openhanded would be ok as well
because the Chinese almost always had the same look it
makes for easier conversions...still I will make a whole bunch
of new ones...........got to be done really!

as to your last sentence that makes for "interesting" rules!! :o :-* o_o :D

cheers
Ged

Offline ichwillauch

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2017, 07:16:45 AM »
Thanks everybody for your answers.

@italwars: The link is really great, very colorful and beautiful uniforms
@Gringo: Order is placed...

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2017, 11:31:19 PM »
ichwillauch...........thanks for your inpot!! :D
and support!

cheers
Ged

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2017, 09:12:04 AM »
funken print of later French colonial infantry 1900 but gives
a good flavour of this period ...14 years on......

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2017, 09:48:47 PM »
Prisoners

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2017, 01:31:11 AM »
nice................they did like a big"lantern" hat as well!

attached pic for 1883..........

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2017, 06:59:21 PM »
another inspirational plate
French Colonial troops

cheers

Ged
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Offline italwars

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2017, 06:20:45 PM »
i'll try try to contribute to this very interesting project
Images d'épinal...the brown dressed French troops are actually sporting the native kéo..or something like that..over or in place of their tunics

 

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