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Author Topic: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s  (Read 88815 times)

Offline Shipka

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #870 on: April 25, 2020, 06:17:46 AM »
He still plans to add to it, I continually urge GED for Chinese and Vietnamese regulars

Offline sjwalker51

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #871 on: April 25, 2020, 09:25:15 AM »
It is a bit frustrating that Gringos has so many incomplete ranges (especially as there are so many Iíd love to start collecting) particularly when theyíre for such specific periods itís difficult to complete from other manufacturers without compromising on quality.

Iím one of the worst when it comes to being too easily distracted by new shiny things but a bit of self-discipline is sometimes needed, especially as a manufacturer.

Offline italwars

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #872 on: April 25, 2020, 05:44:46 PM »
i can fully understand Gringo....Firstly Gringo 40 is a very innovative approach to wargame minis in that scale ..they are in fact not only wargame pieces but they are also very nice as component of diorama or vignette..the majority of subjects until now produced  can be seen from the uncommon detail and choice of subject, pose even personality among same subject, as  some sort of stand alone wargame figure range ...already  perfect to complete your existing armies...i own a big Neapolitan Army of 1860 from other ranges but i could'nt resist to buy some very few pieces from Gringo and, despite their big size, they are very iconic and completed brillantly my already existing Mirliton army...the same could be said, probably, for other ranges...Tonkin and Mexico among my favourites....consider also that it is, as i suppose, a small manufacture and a work of love...otherwise the man behind Gringo, would have choosed to produce, instead of Risorgimento, Tonkin and Mexico, some other tons of WW2 Germans, Ancient Romans or other subjects with much appeal to the masses but less for demanding and sophisticated guys like we are in this forum section ;)....so maybe we have to understand better, and i did from personal past experience as a producer of wargame minis (ITALWARS), the stance of Gringo...in oder to  invest in new subjects if you have to sell, before that, very very well and big quantities of the already produced casting's subjects..simplest microeconomics approach....for what i perceive Gringo is already doing, risking and offering a lot to us wargamers
« Last Edit: April 25, 2020, 05:52:06 PM by italwars »

Offline marco55

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #873 on: April 25, 2020, 07:30:31 PM »
I understand that it isn't cheap to produce figures. I've  had a few sculpted and that alone isn't cheap so I can imagine what a whole range going through all the processes must cost.But understanding all that I thought Ged was very happy with the Tonkin range and that it was doing well with it.When he started the modern range I thought he was going to do both and to just stop completely on it came as a complete surprise.
Mark

Offline sjwalker51

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #874 on: May 01, 2020, 06:17:46 PM »
Italwars makes some good points but Iím much less likely to support a project from its outset unless Iím reasonably confident Iíll be able to get the core troop types (with officers etc) over 2-3 years, while Iím still enthusiastic about it.

Thatís even more important if itís a niche subject which no other manufacturer makes , BUT this also means that every gamer genuinely interested in the period will support it properly, just than just buying odd Ďniceí pieces to add to an existing collection. Tonkin certainly fits into that category and Maximilian probably so.

Best example I can give of a new range launched properly is Iron Dukeís Indian Mutiny Range - great sculpts, well researched, multiple poses for all the core troops types with appropriate unit and higher command figures, lots of relevant historical information on the website and other social media and, most important of all, detailed info on planned future releases to a schedule that has been adhered to. With 24-36 figures in each infantry unit, I hesitate to calculate how much Iíve spent on that collection in the last few years.

Offline marco55

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #875 on: May 01, 2020, 06:53:04 PM »
Italwars makes some good points but Iím much less likely to support a project from its outset unless Iím reasonably confident Iíll be able to get the core troop types (with officers etc) over 2-3 years, while Iím still enthusiastic about it.

Thatís even more important if itís a niche subject which no other manufacturer makes , BUT this also means that every gamer genuinely interested in the period will support it properly, just than just buying odd Ďniceí pieces to add to an existing collection. Tonkin certainly fits into that category and Maximilian probably so.

Best example I can give of a new range launched properly is Iron Dukeís Indian Mutiny Range - great sculpts, well researched, multiple poses for all the core troops types with appropriate unit and higher command figures, lots of relevant historical information on the website and other social media and, most important of all, detailed info on planned future releases to a schedule that has been adhered to. With 24-36 figures in each infantry unit, I hesitate to calculate how much Iíve spent on that collection in the last few years.
Good post. Ged was suppose to release a book on Tonkin also.
Mark

Offline Shipka

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #876 on: May 01, 2020, 08:22:14 PM »
Having spoken to Ged, I know he will be adding to the Tonkin Range, especially with Chinese/Vietnamese regulars, also expanding the Legionaries.
It is a range he consistently sells

I have currently got my Black Flag Army painted, my French is almost there, and I am painting some of the Black Flags as Chinese Boxers.

« Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 08:28:31 PM by Shipka »

Offline gringo

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #877 on: May 13, 2020, 12:07:02 AM »
thanks for all the comments chap.....one has to consider
the multiple aspects of producing figures..for example my
Tonkin Game at Salute the other year as an exercise in passion
required major imput .and as a one man band im fortunate in being
able to pick and choose whatever I want to do wargame wise...but I will
add to Tonkin when im able... :D :D :D :D :D as for the book its one of four!
I have "stuff" in the wings Ö.all will be revealed!

regards
Ged
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Offline marco55

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #878 on: May 13, 2020, 01:14:30 AM »
I hope so . :D
Mark

Offline marco55

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #879 on: June 11, 2020, 07:41:40 PM »
WHERE"S MY SENEGALESE??? lol lol lol lol lol o_o :D :D
Mark

Offline gringo

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #880 on: June 12, 2020, 08:22:45 AM »
Mark
all in good time old chap...ÖÖÖÖÖ.. 8) :D

cheers
Ged
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Offline marco55

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Re: Tonkin 1883-85 Next up for Gringo40s
« Reply #881 on: June 12, 2020, 10:29:49 AM »
I'm 64. Can't wait much longer. lol lol
Mark

 

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