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The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« on: December 16, 2017, 10:05:17 PM »
Right, I've seen it and I'm sure a bunch of you have!

So let's have a nice space to discuss the movie, our thoughts and opinions of it.

I'm flagging this thread as having spoilers.


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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 01:31:28 AM »
Mostly enjoyed it but I don't like what they have done with Luke's character. No wonder Mark wasn't happy.

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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 02:48:51 AM »
Bit shit really.

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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2017, 10:13:23 AM »
Film of troughs and peaks!

Started poorly, got better and then tailed off again!

Really it was mainly just Empire made in reverse and at some points I thought I was watching Battlestar Galatica!

Still it was better than Episode VII but not as good as Rogue One!
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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 10:25:28 AM »
I think it was not very star wars.

My main gripes would be:

1) the whole plot about hyper speed tracking.  That was simply not good.  No matter the franchise, that was just bad writing in my opinion.

2) Leia flying through space... totally off.  I really liked it until she wasn't dead.  Would have been the perfect ending and set up a division in Kylie.

3) Snoke, Phasma... why?

4) prequel casino planet

... And I could go on and on... but I am arriving at the point where I think I simply only like the original trilogy and that the scope for star wars is not very broad in my eyes

I did like some of the film.  Just to not sound exclusively negative.  I didn't mind the humour - that was ok. 
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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2017, 10:32:39 AM »
Mixed feelings from me, struggling with my inner dark and light ;)

Nice fight scenes. Disappointed that Luke never left that island.

I left with a feeling of enjoyment from the film, but the more I think about it the less happy I am with it. Still, Number 5 was my least favourite of the originals as it was really just a bridging movie, hopefully this is the same, setting the scene for an awesome finale.

Bring on the Han Solo story now.


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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2017, 10:42:33 AM »


Bring on the Han Solo story now.

This is where I am really concerned... Rian Johnson has been given the keys to the franchise on the basis of The Last Jedi.

That must mean we'll get more of the same ilk I  the future...

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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2017, 12:05:17 PM »
Still it was better than Episode VII but not as good as Rogue One!

That sums it up for me pretty well.

I liked it, but IMO the best SW movies are V and Rogue One.
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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2017, 12:08:39 PM »
1) the whole plot about hyper speed tracking.  That was simply not good.  No matter the franchise, that was just bad writing in my opinion.
2) Leia flying through space... totally off.  I really liked it until she wasn't dead.  Would have been the perfect ending and set up a division in Kylie.
3) Snoke, Phasma... why?
4) prequel casino planet
1 - totally agree, I never understood why the 1st order was not sending some Stardestroyers via hyperspace ahead of the slow moving rebel fleet...
2 - was OK with me, we all seem have our problems when force users show new abilities. I still remember the discussion about Obi Wan jumping around in Ep I.
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3 - agreed, they get a bit easy of the hook. Especially Phasma was a wasted opportunity.
4 - Oh my, bad indeed.

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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2017, 12:09:32 PM »
Nice fight scenes. Disappointed that Luke never left that island.

Strange, that was perfect solution for Luke's story IMO!

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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2017, 12:16:01 PM »
I have watched the movie yesterday. As mentioned earlier Leia in space like supergirl was not the best idea... but it was better than Star Wars VII

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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2017, 01:50:53 PM »
I started thinking "ooo this is a bit shaky."
It got better, But throughout the whole thing i had this constant feelign tnat nothing really felt well put together.

Lots of chopping between sub plots , often for only a few seconds at a time. focusing on weird things that had no pay off (liek the children at the end, or the guardians.)
yoda was...odd. Not bad, but it felt like a fan tribute rather than a good scene.

Everything felt very disjointed. The get the hacker plot went nowhere (for now?)  and felt more like some of the pages of rogue one got mixed into this film.

It wasn't BAD, but it didn't quite feel great.

My main gripe is with the visual design.
Obviously a good sequel has to build on the original and not wallow in it, and I appluad the film for trying new things, But alot of the visuals felt very UN star wars. Snokes red LED room , the royal guard with their 3d printed armour, The sleek first order droids in the background.
It was all clearly star wars inspired, but somehow these little things toom me out of the movie, they didn't feel like they meshed very well with the universe they existed in.

it all just felt like lots of choppy little scenes to get us to the next movie . Not really sure what they're doing with rey and ren. I liked the bit about reys parents and the flashbacks to luke as a jedi master trying to train ren.


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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2017, 02:21:30 PM »
Saw it the other day with the family.

Not a fan.  The biggest issue was that it felt disjointed, with very mashed together scenes which broke my immersion in the theatre.  I always feel a good movie generally hooks you from start to finish and you don't remember you're sitting in a theatre.  When you have time to look around the theatre or think too much about how bad a scene was, it breaks that immersion.

My biggest issue (nearly start to finish) was the overwhelming amount of comic relief.  Killed any genuine feel for the movie.  I felt like I was watching an Avengers/Iron Man movie, and to me that felt out of place in Star Wars.  A couple sarcastic jabs and one-liners would have been okay, but it was constant cheap gimmicky laughs.  It also gutted the opening scene with the high-school level phone prank, etc.

I'd rate it beneath Force Awakens and I didn't even like that much.  Overall, really disappointed.



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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2017, 04:22:22 PM »
Saw it the other day with the family.

Not a fan.  The biggest issue was that it felt disjointed, with very mashed together scenes which broke my immersion in the theatre.  I always feel a good movie generally hooks you from start to finish and you don't remember you're sitting in a theatre.  When you have time to look around the theatre or think too much about how bad a scene was, it breaks that immersion.

My biggest issue (nearly start to finish) was the overwhelming amount of comic relief.  Killed any genuine feel for the movie.  I felt like I was watching an Avengers/Iron Man movie, and to me that felt out of place in Star Wars.  A couple sarcastic jabs and one-liners would have been okay, but it was constant cheap gimmicky laughs.  It also gutted the opening scene with the high-school level phone prank, etc.

I'd rate it beneath Force Awakens and I didn't even like that much.  Overall, really disappointed.

Agreed, the humour just took me right out of it. It works in marvel because marvel is aboutlarger than life individuals battling ridiculous monsters for the sake of the multiverse.It's so over the top that you can afford to not take it seriously. Star wars wants to have it's cake and eat it by having a grim tale of resistance and hope whilst also having characters make little jabs at each other for teh lulz.

Humour is fine. I liked the interactions between leia and poe, and lukes grumpy old man face.

I also think that the original star wars movies, whilst wonderful fun, are not complex.
kid fights evil.there's twists and turns, cool set pieces and wonderful tone, but the STORY is very basic.
this felt BLOATED as it tried to cram in everything but failed to pull it off.

I wasn't bored but i wasn't thrilled.




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Re: The LAF star wars discussion thread. SPOILERS!
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2017, 05:25:40 PM »
Saw it in the night of wednesday to thursday and have to say I enjoyed it, mostly  ;)

The only thing I realy didn't needed in the whole move was the "Leia in space" part.
I realy liked the way they handled Luke, and the part where the Rebelship jumped through the First Order fleet was realy nice  :)

As resume, like a few other allready said, better than Episode 7 but not as good as Rogue One.

 

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