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Offline Von Stroheim

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Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« on: May 07, 2018, 02:14:01 PM »
TAG have the Landsknechts in pluderhosen available now.

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/landsknechts-in-pluderhosen-released/

Offline Arthur

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2018, 11:00:22 PM »
And very nice they are too :





Offline pete

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 11:11:54 AM »
thanks for sharing, i think they are the best minis I ever made.

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2018, 01:12:04 AM »
Thanks for posting these.

In case anyone isn't familiar with TAG: they're first rate miniatures that are poorly served by the product photography. I have most of the Tudor line and will pick up a few of these later landsknechts.

Offline sakura11

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2018, 09:05:33 AM »
brilliant figures which are well cast and animated
also very quick delivery
really good to paint as there are no blurred bits
just bought valois french and will add these soon

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2018, 08:29:03 PM »
These look really good. I am tempted, but I have little knowledge of this era so, at the risk of looking like a plum, what campaigns/battles would these (late Landsknechts) have been involved in? Would the clothing still have been a riot of colour?

Thanks

Offline Metternich

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2018, 08:48:33 PM »
Absolutely brilliant.  Bravo.

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2018, 11:08:45 PM »
Would the clothing still have been a riot of colour?

A couple sources on clothing:
  • Il Libro del Sarto ("The Tailor's Book") was compiled in the 1570s and 1580s and shows several outfits clearly inspired by landsknechts. Example: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/Tailors/pages/f71R.html. The book documents high-society Milan but the upper classes of much of Europe were influenced by the landsknechts for at least fifty years.
  • The First Book of Fashion documents a father and son from the Schwarz family of Augsburg from about 1500-1561. The father's clothes are much more colorful and slashed circa 1520-1530, about what you'd expect. The son's clothes circa 1550-1560 are more subdued, but still plenty of blues, whites, and reds. If anything his outfits are colored a bit like the Battle of Alesia circa 1533: almost all solid colors.
For what it's worth, I'm convinced many of the multi-colored landsknechts are overpainted. Even in the Battle of Pavia tapestry from 1528, you might see a yellow doublet and blue breeches. Other than white slashes, that's it.

Edit: here's a review of The First Book of Fashion with lots of pictures: https://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2015/nov/12/renaissance-selfies-the-first-book-of-fashion-in-pictures
 
« Last Edit: May 14, 2018, 11:12:42 PM by since1968 »

Offline Metternich

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2018, 08:22:36 PM »
Perfect troops for Landsknecht taking part in the Wars of Religion in France in the 1560's and 1570's (just add some Schwarz Reiters for cavalry support, and pour)

Offline Antonio J Carrasco

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2018, 05:11:20 AM »
Thanks for posting these.

In case anyone isn't familiar with TAG: they're first rate miniatures that are poorly served by the product photography. I have most of the Tudor line and will pick up a few of these later landsknechts.

Absolutely agree. They have great product -I have their Ottomans- but poor photos. It's a pity, really, because the miniatures are really great sculpts and, usually, nicely casted.

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2018, 12:20:36 PM »
(just add some Schwarz Reiters for cavalry support, and pour)

Which line do you recommend for the Reiters?

Offline Metternich

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2018, 08:03:52 PM »
Ideally what you are looking for are fellows who look like these (half or 3/4 armor, burgonet, closed burgonet, or morion):

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2017/03/31/24376/

Unfortunately, TAG doesn't make Reiters yet.  So you are left having to make do from other lines.  Below link has size comparisons of figures from various manufacturers of Renaissance figures.  http://renaissanceminiatures.blogspot.com/

A good representation of a Reiter was the old Warhammer metal Pistoleer, probably now available only on Ebay:   https://picclick.co.uk/Oldhammer-Warhammer-Citadel-The-Empire-4-x-Pistoliers-123055214423.html#&gid=1&pid=1

Old Glory, in their historical Wars of Religion line,   http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=211
makes a pack of Schwarzreiters (WRR-18)  in a largish 25mm (see the renaissanceminiatures.blogspot link above for size comparison of foot figures with TAG).  Unfortunately, their website doesn't have a picture of that pack WRR-18, but here is a link to the commanders pack so you can see the style of sculpting.   http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=WRR-22   [Note the WRR-17 pack, Schwarzreiters with boar spear, is really circa 1540's - 1550's and too early to be compatible with pluderhosen- dressed landsknecht).

Wargames Foundry has some in their Late 16th Century 1560-1610 range    https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/late-16th-century-1560-1610/products/liz010-reiters

Redoubt has a fairly extensive line  https://www.redoubtenterprises.com/product-category/renaissance/cavalry-renaissance/reiters/    (again, those with top hats would be a little early - I would start at R555 and higher for dress compatible with pluderhosen)

 


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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2018, 07:11:41 PM »
Ideally what you are looking for are fellows who look like these (half or 3/4 armor, burgonet, closed burgonet, or morion):

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2017/03/31/24376/

Thanks for that detailed reply Metternich. Any opinion on the new Warlord reiters?

Offline Metternich

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2018, 07:19:28 PM »
I haven't seen any Reiters from Warlord - what I have seen in their Wars of Religion range are mounted Arquebusiers, which are something totally different.  The later period Reiters (of same timeframe as the pluderhosen Landsknechts) are pistol-armed, armored cavalry.  The mounted Arquebusiers (and Petronels) are intended as a supporting arm (they help "shoot" the cavalry onto their target - alternatively they could operate as dragoons).

Offline Hunlion

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Re: Assaault Group - later Landsknechts released
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2018, 11:48:48 AM »


I found these Landsknecht flags on the Perfect Captain page. They are from the French wars of religion. I think they would be suitable for the pluderhosen Landsknechts.

Its on this link.....http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/SpanishMain.html    see 15mm flags ( you can enlarge them.)
« Last Edit: May 27, 2018, 03:28:04 PM by Hunlion »