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Offline Galland

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Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« on: May 17, 2018, 10:36:21 PM »
A few years back, there used to be a guy that made scratchbuilt western saloons, it was a very nice corner building, and they where for sale. Anyone that can help me out here?
I am interested in western buildings over all that are for sale, but this Saloon was quite impressive.
While I am at it, I might as well ask for suggestions for stage coaches and prarie wagons that can be purchased
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 10:33:36 AM by Galland »
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Offline Gardensnake

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Re: Looking for a Saloon!
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2018, 03:41:53 AM »
Have you looked at 4Ground's stuff? They make some really nice old west terrain in both normal and rundown versions. They aren't cheap but they are really nice. I personally believe they are worth the price you pay for them.

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Offline Ramirez Noname

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Re: Looking for a Saloon!
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2018, 07:10:51 AM »
Not sure about the scratchbuilt buildings but as Gardensnake says the 4Ground one is very nice (but a bit pricey). It's a large kit and weighs in at about 3kg.

Blotz, based in Cricklade, U.K., also produce an unpainted MDF kit for one -

http://blotz.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23_29_238_30&products_id=243

it's cheaper than the 4Ground one as it's not pre painted. Blotz also have a range of Wild West buildings and a few wagons.

4 Ground and Warbases both produce MDF stagecoaches and wagons. Dixon Miniatures produce a good range of wagons and a stagecoach in white metal. Bluemoon Manufacturing also have some wagons in their "Wgons Ho!" Range - http://www.oldgloryuk.com/wagons-ho/41/171/434/444

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Offline FifteensAway

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Re: Looking for a Saloon!
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 02:05:55 PM »
 I wonder if he's thinking of the wonderful work of Colonel O'Truth?


Offline Johnno

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Re: Looking for a Saloon!
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2018, 08:53:44 PM »
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Offline Galland

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Re: Looking for a Saloon!
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2018, 10:32:33 AM »
Thank you very much, will look in to all suggestion, as soon I am at my PC, using this i-pad gives me a headache and a unhealthy stress level hehe.
I am not a bit fan of laser cut mdf, but if good enough I will be giving it a thought.

What about Railroad locomotives and train cars?

Offline romelll

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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2018, 11:42:14 AM »
Could look for S gauge trains (I think that was the scale for 28m)
I don't have a train in my town. I have a larger G-scale train set that covers that pretty well :)

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Offline hentzau

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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2018, 06:14:09 PM »
Try the Bachmann on30 locos - not cheap but excellent details:



https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA

I have a Bachmann ON30 and it looks great in my layout.  Almost perfect size, but as stated, very pricey.  (I'm actually on my second one now, I bought my first somewhat cheapish, and it looks great and all, but one that looked even better came up on Ebay about a year after I bought the first that I had to have it.  I really need to sell off that first loco...)

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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 08:28:31 PM »
Try the Bachmann on30 locos - not cheap but excellent details:



https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA

Got to agree with this - beautifully detailed locomotive which fits in perfectly (like Hentzau, i to own several of them).

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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2018, 10:20:59 AM »
The Bachman does indeed look the part



I can recommend using ON30 track for it too.
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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2018, 03:02:59 PM »
0n30 is the only way to go:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=35212.30

If you dpn't want a train that works you can get them for a fair price on ebay, mine was 30 pounds

Offline ffrum

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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 03:05:27 PM »
I chose the Dixon 28mm train for my games.  They offer a locomotive, cars and passengers  in their Western range.  They sell molded track sections, but I used S Gauge, model railroad  track instead.  I also added actual model railroading, S gauge wheel trucks to the rail cars, instead of the supplied assemblies from Dixon.

Using this train in a Southwest US/across the Mexican Border game scenario, I built a model of a large caliber ACW gun on a rail car (28mm) and used it in a skirmish game.

More information and pictures at:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49453.msg578547#msg578547

The shield on the gun car is built of rails.  The flat car is scratch built to fit on S gauge tracks.  The rest of the train is from Dixon, but the cars are refitted with commercial S gauge wheel trucks. The gun is from the Huston Guns now marketed through Old Glory.

Additional information on the Dixon train below ("prices may be out of date"):

 The figures in the game are from Dixon, Foundry and a few odd others.  The cannon is from Houston's Miniatures, most recently sold by Old Glory.

The train is from Dixon Miniatures.  As I stated, I added actual "S" gauge model railroad trucks (railroad car wheel assemblies) to the Dixon resin cast passenger cars I purchased.  I also used actual "S" gauge track, instead of the Dixon molded track.  In some scenarios I use switches, sidings and other specialty track pieces, round-table, crossroad, etc.

I made the flat car and artillery car in this train game.  Dixon now offers a resin cast flat car and a box car for their train which I have purchased.  I will be assembling them and substituting the "S" gauge trucks for them as well.

I have copied their listing below from their site that shows the 75.00 price:
http://www.dixon-minis.com/dixoncatalogue.php?maintype=12

LTV.1 WILDWEST/ACW STEAM LOCO WITH TENDER & 2 CREW (c1860-1900) 75.00 
LTVC 2 Boxcar (resin cast)with double "sliding" doors either side and ramp (cast in metal) for stationery use. 25.00 
LTVC 3 Flatcar (resin cast) with side supports and bogies cast in metal. 16.45 
LTVC.1 PASSENGER CARRIAGE FOR STEAM LOCO (SEATS 32 PASSENGERS) not including seats & passengers. 25.00 [/font] 
RT.1 RAIL TRACK - approx 1ft (30cm) x 1 6.95 
WWA.6 TRAIN PASSENGERS X 8 8.00 
WWA.7 PASSENGERS CARRIAGE SEATS x 16 8.00[/size] [/size]

The assembly of the Dixon lead cast locomotive is a fair amount of work, but I really like their model!  Redoubt also offers one, but after close inspection of them both (a friend had the Redoubt kit), I purchased the Dixon model. 

Redoubt kit is shown at:
 http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=78038019d56796c710b005244d64b824&ps_session=65ec08ce207e26af8af86bd9440873d3

If you have any questions or if I can provide any further information please let me know.  Thanks!

Offline Black Burt

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Re: Looking for a Saloon! Also locomotives and trains :)
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2018, 02:36:15 PM »
I went with a Bachman on30 loco as I managed to get it cheaper than the Dixon's one off Ebay and I didn't have to go to the trouble of sticking it all together (see the cover photo on Dead Man's Hand group on Facebook, that's the one).
I picked up an ex-display corner saloon from Blotz at a show (another bargain  :)) it has featured in many of my games.