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Offline vodkafan

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ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« on: May 22, 2018, 01:09:23 PM »
I know why Napoleonic regiments had two colours and it is a wargaming convention to put both in a unit. But I wondered if there was a similar convention to have two flags in an ECW unit on the table. So far as I know, each company had it's own single flag?

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Offline Sparrow

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2018, 05:51:40 PM »
Yep - each company had a colour so you can put as many as you like /feel is aesthetically pleasing with your ECW Infantry. (With cavalry each troop had it’s own Cornet and with Dragoons each company had it’s own Guidon). The ECW is a flag rich environment!

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« Last Edit: May 22, 2018, 08:47:06 PM by Sparrow »
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Offline robh

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2018, 06:44:06 PM »
For the bigger regiments you could have up to 12 Companies. :)
Each flag denotes the Company Commander and is usually a design variant on the Regimental Commanders Standard (Regimental not necessarily his personal Coat of Arms)

Good overview here:
http://tmg110.tripod.com/british6.htm

Offline vodkafan

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2018, 08:27:01 PM »
I think I am going to go for two flags on the command base, which will then be six figures per base.
I was thinking of just getting away with one but it wouldn't look as nice.

Offline Phillius

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 09:22:31 PM »
My regiments have one, two or three flags, depending on the size of the unit.

Each one represents a random company or commanding officer flag.

I like the look of oversized flags.

Offline has.been

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 10:42:58 PM »
Remind me when you next drop by & I'll lend you some information.

Offline fastolfrus

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 10:43:47 PM »
Some battlefield formations could actually be brigades so you could field "units" with flags from different regiments
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Offline vodkafan

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 10:45:19 PM »
Remind me when you next drop by & I'll lend you some information.

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Offline Baron von Wreckedoften

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2018, 07:00:16 PM »
Also, bear in mind that the Royalists (only) used the "gyronny" design, in which the field was divided into segments, according to the seniority of the company, emanating from the centre - Gerard's (blue and yellow/orange), the Duke of York's (black and red), and a few others spring to mind.

Offline fastolfrus

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 10:39:41 PM »
Also, bear in mind that the Royalists (only) used the "gyronny" design, in which the field was divided into segments, according to the seniority of the company, emanating from the centre - Gerard's (blue and yellow/orange), the Duke of York's (black and red), and a few others spring to mind.

Apsley's regiment (black & white) and the Carmarthenshire Militia are noted as gyronny colours, but gyronny may only have had six colours per regiment. Speculation that the Irish regiments sent out by Stafford may have carried gyronny colours too, so you could conjecturally add some more variety there.

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2018, 03:23:26 AM »
Contemporary engravings often represent stylised regiments as having three standards each, which I suspect was based on the appearance of a three company 'battalia'.
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Offline Timmo

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 09:12:22 PM »
I have my flags in pairs on separate 40mm round command stands with an officer figure. (I have old size 25mm figures and I suspect 28mm would need a 50mm round base.) I have far more command bases than I do units. Since most Royalist battalia were made up of several small regiments a mix of flags is entirely appropriate and they look good.

I have drummers and NCOs on separate bases.

Offline Codsticker

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2018, 04:15:11 AM »
All the above is a good excuse to buy all the flags and make many Ensigns and/or command stands. :D

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2018, 03:46:47 PM »
Six.  ;-)

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Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2018, 05:14:28 PM »
 :o oh my...