So what is classed as "Swashbuckling" then?

[Squint]

Hi,


And I'm afraid that you're going to have to excuse a little ignorance on my part here.......but, what consitutes swashbuckling then?

I've just been looking at SgtPerry's figs in another thread, and from these I guess that the genre could be pretty broad.

I ask principally because around this time last year, on a total whim, at a show, I put my hand into my pocket, pulled out some hard-earned green and purchased a load of Border Reivers.
These have finally made it onto my painting table, and with just 2 figures left to paint (plus all the basing and varnishing) I'm begining to wonder exactly what to do with them.

Help!!!


Squint.

[Poliorketes]

I guess it's what we call 'Mantel und Degen' in Germany. Just imagine every kind of Movie with Errol Flynn except his Westerns

[Argonor]

I guess it's what we call 'Mantel und Degen' in Germany. Just imagine every kind of Movie with Errol Flynn except his Westerns

It translates almost directly into 'Cloak and Dagger'. actually  :wink:

I think the 'Errol Flynn'-description fits very well. Also Douglas Fairbanks Sr. would be a good reference (he did all his own stunts, just like Mr. Whitehouse, btw.).

[SgtPerry]

Film de Cape et d'épée in French ( Cloak and sword ) covering the end of Renaissance up to the beginning of the french Revolution.

Olivier

[W.B.Kurgan]

This might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swashbuckler

 :mrgreen:

[Howard Whitehouse]

Obviously it's any activity where those who have swashes buckle them, and all who have buckles swash them.

Mainly I think it means that a chandelier is not a form of lighting but an aid to transit. H

[Squint]

Hi all,


No offense intended, but I do get the gist of swashing and buckling could be about. After all, I am way beyond being 16 years old and I grew up watching Errol doing his thing. (OK, so he did look good in tights - but I thought he was always better out on the North West Frontier with the lancers or in the desert fighting off the marauding Bedouin.)

I was more kinda curious as to whether my Reivers would count as swashers and bucklers or would they come under the more generic term of "other wargames?"

Being Elizabethan I suppose they cover a multitude of things.....but personally, I just don't know what to do with them and was looking for some ideas.


Oh, and pardon me, but I always thought that, rather than being anything else, a chandalier was a chap who sold bits of old rope and stuff to unwary sea-dogs.


Cheers
Squint.

[PeteMurray]

Elizabethan Reivers can be swashbucklers, if you play them with the right attitude. How do you intend to play them? If you're going to focus on single combats, grudges, and honor, then yes, they are swashbucklers! If you're going to use them as a DBR army, not at all.

Also, a chandelier is a light fixture with many bulbs or candles or lamps.

A chandler is the guy who sells expensive rope and paint.

Chandler was Matthew Perry's character on Friends.

All of this is further evidence of what an appalling language English can be.

[Argonor]

Well, Chandler was also the Author of some mighty pulpish detective novels, If my mind doesn't deceive me... (not that it has anything to do with swashbuckling...)

I think border reivers would fit nicely into the theme, as would conquistadores and anything else where cold steel is the hero's or villain's preferred way of career-ending....

[Prof.Witchheimer]

Well, Chandler was also the Author of some mighty pulpish detective novels,

yes, Raymond Chandler, my top-favorite pulp writer, i read all his stories as books an heard them as audiobooks

[Howard Whitehouse]

Although my grandmother, whose education was about what you'd expect for a working class English girl before WWI, referred to the actor Jeff Chandler as "Jeff Chandelier".

She also had oddly prejudiced opinions about the Irish as a group, although every single Irish person she ever met was somehow an exception to the rule. But let's not go there.

Border reiving must, indeed, be all about grudges and honour, although the brisk business aspect of stealing one another's livestock must be mentioned. H

[Hammers]

Speaking of the definition of swashbuckling, I just got to ask: does anyone remember a polish TV-series from the 70' called "Black Clouds" or something like that (Svarta Moln in Swedish). It was set in the turmoils of late seventeenth century. Splendid stuff, as I recall, but impossible to find these days.

[mahon]

I remember it Pretty good, especielly for a Polish series of that time.
I think it should be available somewhere here...

http://www.merlin.com.pl/frontend/towar/350225

[Hammers]

Excellent! Can you tell me if it comes with subtitles? I do note speak one iota of Polish.

[mahon]

Unfortunately not... Which is a terrible shame and even Poles comment on how stupid decision it was to release one of the better Polish series without subtitles....