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Offline Humakt

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Irish Kerns
« on: May 26, 2018, 05:52:01 PM »
I'm looking for 28mm figs suitable for Irish kerns for early 100 years war.
I'm aware of the Crusader ones and the Foundry ribaulds.

Are there any others out there?
What have other people used?

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Offline Jeff965

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2018, 06:22:05 PM »
Would any of the Footsore miniatures Dark age Irish be of any help?
https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/dark-ages-irish

Offline Humakt

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2018, 06:24:33 PM »
Appreciate the suggestion, but they are a good 400 years too early.

Offline Jeff965

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2018, 06:36:21 PM »
Gripping beast do Irish kerns in the Saga range, again an earlier period but short tunic/javelin types if that's what you're after. Did the appearance change drastically over that time? Genuine question not my period  :)

Offline Humakt

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2018, 06:49:54 PM »
Did the appearance change drastically over that time? Genuine question not my period  :)

A fair question.
The simple answer is 'yes'.

The more complex answer is 'no, they didn't change drastically but they did change enough that dark ages figures won't look right'.
The common suggestion is to say, 'oh, you can just say they are using old equipment'. However, that doesn't really cut it. It is fair to say that a chainmail shirt worn by someone's great great grandfather may well still be in use.
But what changes is the style. It might be added to, it might have alterations made, etc to suit current fashions. It may well still be that old chainmail shirt but that doesn't mean it still looks the same. Sleeves might have been added, it may have been lengthened or even shortened. Same with helmets. Again, it may be an old pot helm to start with but it would have been added to and amended over the years to reflect current tastes.
And the same goes for clothing. Cut and style of clothes would have changed.
Certainly by the 14th century even the Celtic fringes would have shown European influences meaning figures meant to represent troop types from 400 years earlier just won't look right.

Offline macmod

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 06:54:14 PM »
The Perry twins have just released some.

Offline Jeff965

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2018, 07:03:56 PM »
Yes looking at the Perry figures I see the differences to the earlier period  :)

Offline Siegfried

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 07:18:07 PM »
Take a look at Antediluvian Miniatures' Medieval range. Over there they have some really nice figures for both the 14th century Irish and the 14th century Scots. Though it isn't a very large range, it certainly is worth your money for the sculpts alone. The casting is great and the detail is absolutely splendid. I thoroughly recommend them.

Here is the link to their page: https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/

I hope you like them.  ;)

Offline Humakt

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Re: Irish Kerns
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 07:33:25 PM »
Antediluvian...ah, so that's what happened to the Irish and Isles sold by Claymore Castings.
I already have those.
Anyone know why Claymore got rid of them?

Those Perry ones are spot on! I'll be getting those.

I'm still happy to hear of any other ranges out there.