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Offline Rogerc

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 11 June
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2018, 05:37:18 PM »
Hoping these images help.
First is a Tudor woodcut showing Irish light horse being charged by English border horse. Bare legs, segmented armour and helmets, no stirrups or proper saddle, spear overarm.
IMG_20180620_172543 by Roger Castle, on Flickr
Ths osprey shows an Irish lord in the same gear.
IMG_20180620_172402 by Roger Castle, on Flickr
The osprey again with the armoured men at arms being Anglo Irish and the irish horse being segmented helmet and chain mail, no stirrups again.
IMG_20180620_172402 by Roger Castle, on Flickr
Lastl jerry embleton warrior series very similar to above, bare legged no stirrups but the segmented helmet is steel, not sure I buy that personally but hopefully some of that helps.
IMG_20180620_172336 by Roger Castle, on Flickr

You would almost want dark age scots or irish horse with later medieval head swaps?
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Offline Rogerc

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 11 June
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2018, 05:39:13 PM »
Apologies missed off the lord hes the guy on right in segmented padded armour.

IMG_20180620_172416 by Roger Castle, on Flickr

Offline Humakt

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 11 June
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2018, 08:07:36 AM »
Hmm...as I suspected - those cavalry are barely distinguishable in appearance from the dark ages.
Perhaps some head swaps for more 'contemporary' head gear, but even then not necessarily.

The only bugbear for unarmoured cavalry would be the billowing sleeves to identify them as 'medieval' rather than 'dark ages.'

But, overall, there's not really much difference in the appearance of the Irish cavalry from 1000AD to 1500AD.
The difference is in the details, and maybe some of that can be painted in.

I did look on Redoubt's website for those Irish cavalry figures but all they had was illustrations (a retro-website trying to recreate the illustrated catalogues of the early 80s?).
Does anyone have any pictures of the actual figures, however well or badly painted?

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 11 June
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2018, 09:08:01 AM »
I have some unpainted ones I can photograph when I get back home tonight. See if that helps.

Offline painterman

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 11 June
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2018, 04:21:48 PM »
Lots of enlightening images of Irish being added here - so thought I should pop few 28mm Gallowglass on (more Perrys).
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Simon.

Offline rivers3162

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2018, 06:09:06 PM »
Very nice work as usual Simon! I really need to get myself in gear and get mine painted up. The only problem with trying to game Stoke Field is that I need to paint so many kerns!

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2018, 08:10:02 PM »
Gorgious figures painterman, love it.

Heres a picture of the four Redoubt Cavalry and the 2 horses, not ideal but gives you an idea.

IMG_20180621_200545 by Roger Castle, on Flickr

Offline Humakt

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2018, 05:59:54 AM »
Thanks for taking pictures of the figures and posting them.

Much appreciated.

Offline Romark

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2018, 09:14:19 AM »
Nice additions to your force Simon,Stuart should be getting worried lol.

Cheers

Keith


Offline painterman

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2018, 10:17:14 AM »
Hi Keith
Maybe he should - but there's always the curse of the newly painting figures' first outing!
Cheers, Simon.

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2018, 01:24:43 PM »
 lol
You're right of course Simon  :)
Be sure to post pictures  :)

Cheers

Keith

Offline DintheDin

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2018, 07:04:35 PM »
Just caught up with this thread...
It seems that I missed a lot of excellent paintjobs... and historically documented as well!
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. – Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Medieval Irish (Perry 28mm) - UPDATED 21st June
« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2018, 06:29:36 PM »
I cant help thinking that the Crusader Scots cavalry both the thanes and the warriors would be a good fit, all bare legged the thanes in mail shirts, just need head swaps on the thans for bare heads or more modern helmets.
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/img678.jpg

Think this is what I will do for my Tudor Ireland project.