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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2018, 08:06:24 AM »
Many thanks for all the encouragement!

Regarding the clutter effect, I am considering to have some market stalls along the wall with canvas roofs. Anyone have experience on building such? A crane for lifting heavy cargo would also be good. Any ideas how a 13th century version should look like?

All support appreciated!

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2018, 08:49:44 AM »
Close enough if you don't feel like making your own - 
STREETS OF ROME MARKET SET 28MM LASER CUT MDF SCALE BUILDING T017
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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2018, 09:07:25 AM »
Some picture of stalls we made for a pirate game









Stalls Just made out of match sticks and scraps of balsa

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2018, 09:56:29 AM »
Wow! They look great! Consider it stolen  ;)

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2018, 11:10:33 AM »
Since Roman times cranes seem to retain their basic concept of multiplying human power, using a treadwheel. Here is a Google search and some pics

https://www.google.es/search?q=roman+cranes&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiok6LEyPHUAhVOalAKHXcnDN0Q_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=1012#imgrc=_

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2018, 01:46:15 PM »
DintheDin,

Many thanks! Seems a bit complex to build so I might need to buy or to find a less complex crane. ”simple Medieval counterweight crane” anywhere?  :D
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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2018, 06:07:44 PM »
DintheDin,

Many thanks! Seems a bit complex to build so I might need to buy or to find a less complex crane. ”simple Medieval counterweight crane” anywhere?  :D

Until you complete your search, have a look at more pics of the 1/72 crane that Fredericus Rex is selling, from the excellent Paul's Bods site:
http://paulsbods.blogspot.com/2013/10/ancient-roman-crane.html

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2018, 06:14:34 PM »

Cannot be simpler, you buy some miniature pulleys for ship models
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(machine)

By Eric Gaba (<a title="User:Sting" href="//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sting">Sting[/url] - <a title="fr:Utilisateur:Sting" class="extiw" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sting">fr:Sting[/url]) - Own work Based upon&nbsp;: Dienel, Hans-Liudger &amp; Meighörner, Wolfgang: Der Tretradkran, Publication of the Deutsches Museum (Technikgeschichte Series), 2nd ed., München 1997, p.12f., <a title="Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0">CC BY-SA 4.0[/url], Link

Photo: Greco-Roman Trispastos ("Three-pulley-crane"), the simplest crane type (150 kg load)

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2018, 09:36:55 PM »
Excellent! That looks simple enough  8)

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2018, 10:03:00 PM »
Excellent! That looks simple enough  8)

Great! Then, I'll be extremely happy to see this simple yet very harmonious looking machine have a place at your harbor!

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2018, 10:42:31 AM »
You can also get the big or small treadwheel crane from Sarissa's Roman range:

Big Treadwheel Crane

Small Treadwheel Crane
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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2018, 03:18:50 PM »
The whole thread is amazing :o. I love the work you are doing here :-*

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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2018, 04:27:18 PM »
Thanks for your comments! Jericho, those look fabtastic but unfortunately I have to save my bullion for lead  ;)

So, I am trying to get my act together for the crane. It seems I have to cheat a bit regarding the working mechanism but it seems I have the pieces lined up after a bit of work:



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Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2018, 08:58:57 AM »
I like very much how you made the "Alpha" part of the crane, eager to see the continuation! Cheers!