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Offline Admiral Benbow

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2018, 08:52:46 PM »
Excellent Michael. I shall shamelessly steal the idea of adding a plastic card pauldron  :)

They still have been quite common in their simplest form around the turn of the 13th to 14th century, mainly in central Europe and especially in the german territories. And so easy to make. But be aware that the coat-of-arms was again repeated on both pieces, too. That means very tiny lions, eagles or other complicated heraldic signs to be painted onto miniscule areas ... I am just painting the Duke with his red lions rampant on blue/white stripes and decided to just have the stripes on the pauldrons ...  :)

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2018, 09:37:06 AM »
Excellent work

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2018, 10:02:12 AM »
Just found this!
Truly excellent painting on the heraldry and great conversions - those horse heads really do make improvements to the Fireforge horses and of course your sense of movement is second to none.
Really looking forward to more.
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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2018, 11:07:53 AM »
Great project and amazing conversions, the falling knight alone is a true masterpiece! At my club we are working on a scenario settled the same period as yours (Campaldino 1289 using tb line 10mm minis) and i added plastic pauldrons too to my knights to make them more suited for late 13th century. Since theese kind of protections, as those on knees and lower legs, were in leather, maybe decorated, i painted them in plain leather/colours (decorating a 10mm pauldron is far from my painting skills). Do you have other references about this subject?
Looking forward to see your new unit painted. Keep it up!

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2018, 11:21:41 AM »
great stuff, already one of my favorite posts ;-)
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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2018, 11:53:05 AM »
The Standard Bearer is awesome, I can only guess at the time and work involved. It looks like you,ve used brass wire for the pole , how did you join it to the hand ?  Mini Masterpieces all .

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2018, 02:21:39 PM »
Loving seeing these come together. They are going to be spectacular. ;D
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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2018, 05:37:53 PM »
Do you have other references about this subject?

Thanks for your support! I have almost all Osprey books on medieval subjects and a lot of other books, but what impressed me most in regard to arms and armour of the late 13th /early 14th century was this magazine of the "Medieval Warfare" series by Karwansarai publishers from 2014:



Between Worringen 1288 and Bannockburn 1314 we have 26 years. In regards to arms and armour development a small timespan, so we can assume that there were a lot of similar things going on and that insights based on newest scientific research can be transferred. Tobias Copwell, an acknowledged expert on medieval arms and armour and curator of arms and armour of the Wallace collection in London has written a great article on "The knights of Bannockburn" including many illustrations and two impressive colour plates showing knights from the highest nobility to depleted ones and their different equipment. I would highly recommend this magazine (around 7,- Euros only) to everyone who is interested in the latest research on this medieval period.


The Standard Bearer is awesome, I can only guess at the time and work involved. It looks like you,ve used brass wire for the pole , how did you join it to the hand ?  Mini Masterpieces all .

Thanks Belisarius. I didn't use brass wire but brass pipe of 1,4 mm diameter. So I just cut the plastic lance above the hand, drilled into the lower part, inserted a piece of 0,8 mm copper wire and could then slide and glue the prepared banner pole onto that piece of wire. A little liquid green stuff did the rest.

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2018, 12:52:15 PM »
Great work Admiral! I'm following this topic with great interest.
And thanks for making me discover this magazine
By the way, I think it is possible to buy a digital version from the publisher's site for half the price more or less.

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2018, 02:18:41 PM »
Very nice work!

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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2018, 08:14:23 PM »
Awesome!  :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2018, 10:06:44 AM »
Stunning effort will be watching this with anticipation. Love the dead horse with falling knight.

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2018, 06:59:42 AM »
Fascinating project, love that heraldry on the earlier figures and the new plastic conversions look very tempting.
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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2018, 07:30:44 PM »
Michael,

again another project with sooo much inspiration. Impressive as always. Will follow this with great interest.

Cheers mate!

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Re: Worringen 1288 - my enduring project
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2018, 08:14:33 PM »
I finished the first paintjobs, some easy colouring to warm up before tackling the Luxembourg heraldry ...

First the nameless falling knight, I will later add a shield and sword after finishing the groundwork:






Next one is Arnold von Nyra, steward of Neersen and follower of Heinrich VI, count of Luxembourg. Simple coat of arms, but the red/yellow combination is always a striking one. He will be attached next to the falling knight on the same base.






I have already started to paint the Count himself, so that's what will come next and perhaps some pics of the above miniatures with finished groundwork.