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Offline 6milPhil

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White hem lines on hats
« on: July 07, 2018, 11:49:47 AM »
A lot of the mini's from this period have hats which have white hems on the top edge.

For me they're the hardest part of the whole thing, drives me to distraction, so how does everyone else do them?

Has anyone tried using a paint pen for these? Or any other shortcut will do...

Offline vodkafan

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 01:09:28 PM »
In 28mm I just do them free hand with a good pointed small brush and it's not too bad. I actually don't mind doing it. Same with lines down trousers. You get better with practice, but I sometimes have to touch up the edge  with the black hat colour or trouser colour  about 50% of the time afterwards.
In smaller scales I guess a pen would be the best option.
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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 02:32:00 PM »
I use white acrylic gel pens (In the UK they are available from 'The Range' & most art supply shops).
If I want to show the troops are 'Levellers'  (ECW socialists/communists) who wore green ribbon,
I use a green highlighter over the white (once it has dried) it doesn't matter if the highlighter goes over the hat, as I have them black and it tends not to show.
Another technique is to paint the hat the ribbon colour, then paint up to the ribbon with the colour you want the hat to be. Believe me it is easier to get a neat ribbon that way.
Vodkafan  is right, it will get better with practice.

Offline FifteensAway

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2018, 03:00:36 PM »
As above, paint hat, paint trim, touch up with hat color, touch up with trim color, touch up with hat color.  Yup, sometimes takes that level to get it 'right'.  I do 15 mm (imagine that) and make it work.

I suspect there are very few of us who can 'paint it right' the first time without the touch up effort.  And touch up goes beyond just the hat.  Well, at least for me.

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2018, 03:08:38 PM »
As above, paint hat, paint trim, touch up with hat color, touch up with trim color, touch up with hat color.  Yup, sometimes takes that level to get it 'right'. 

Sounds about right. On a particularly bad day it is the above times 5 for me.  lol

Out of interest, what exactly are we talking about? Is it the tape or lace trim on a tricorne, or something else? (not too well-versed in this period)

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2018, 04:03:26 PM »
As above, paint hat, paint trim, touch up with hat color, touch up with trim color, touch up with hat color. 

Ditto - just painting the lace on a load of Galloping Major "60th Brits". Luckily enough they have the lace well defined, making them easier to paint.

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2018, 05:20:05 PM »
Paint the whole hat the hem colour then paint up to it with black. It is far easier to paint large areas up to a detail.

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2018, 05:29:44 PM »
Yes it does get better with practice.  I have an excessive number of F&IW figures and painting the hat ribbons/lace is a frequent operation.  To paint the lace line, I use a medium to fine brush and then touch up with the hat color.  The Dixon, Front Rank and Galloping Major figures are easy to complete.  Sometimes the figures without an included ribbon molded onto the hat are a challenge.  I find using a brush angle from below (respective to the figure) the hat with a good flow of paint makes the process go quickly.   It is all a matter of too little time and too many figures in too many periods!

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2018, 09:05:27 PM »
28mm figures, I actually don't use the tip of the brush but the side.  Load the brush, then slide it along the edge of the hat.  Then touch up with black, but honestly, this is a rare requirement.

The hat band is more tricky, but like others, I paint white then touch up around with black.  I'm very particular about neat edges.   ::)






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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2018, 10:50:30 PM »
Yep. Side of the brush. Thatís the technique I use too.


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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 12:03:31 AM »
Blimey, plenty of food for thought everyone - thanks... but also the kind of photographic joy which has me snapping my brushes in two...

Offline Andrew_McGuire

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 02:34:44 PM »
If you have the patience, applying some narrow masking tape might help, though I imagine this would be tricky in itself. There are very narrow and flexible types available now, from Tamiya. One is reviewed here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur_uW6y-Mpk

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 07:22:52 PM »
Yeah I have used old page layout border tape before. Tbh that's a step too far.

Offline Rogerc

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 07:48:53 PM »
I used to use the edge of the brush too which worked really well. I recently tried using a white gel pen (Uniball Signo about £2.50 from ebay) and I have not looked back, much easier.

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Re: White hem lines on hats
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 07:56:56 PM »
Yeah I have used old page layout border tape before. Tbh that's a step too far.

I thought it was perhaps somewhat OTT, but might be worth considering. Another thought has since occurred to me, but at least until such time as I have personal experience to go by, I'll keep it to myself.