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Author Topic: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia  (Read 63912 times)

Offline marco55

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #90 on: August 20, 2018, 11:32:33 PM »
Second one a 90mm. Both are on ebay.
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Offline cuprum

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2018, 03:28:12 AM »
On the first figure there is a bow. It is unlikely that Ermak and his Cossacks used bows - the detachment was full of the most modern firearms. I think it was more appropriate to depict the wheel-lock pistol.

Offline axabrax

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #92 on: August 21, 2018, 04:34:32 PM »
What a rich thread! This and the conflict between th Russian fur traders and the Tlingit are two ranges I would love to see produced in 28mm. Is anyone actually doing this or is it just a research topic? I saw that first painting when I was in St Petersburg and it was epic!

Offline cuprum

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #93 on: August 21, 2018, 06:02:28 PM »
The Russo-Tlingit War is already the beginning of the 19th century. The Russians are quite suitable for the partisans in 1812. I once saw figures of Tlingit Indians of 28 mm in combat armor, but I do not remember who makes them.

I remembered, but alas, this is 15 mm:  https://eurekaminusa.com/search?type=product&q=tlingit
« Last Edit: August 21, 2018, 06:09:35 PM by cuprum »

Offline marco55

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2018, 06:25:41 PM »
Someone on TMP was talking about starting the Alaskan range again but I can't remember who it was.
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Offline axabrax

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #95 on: August 21, 2018, 09:22:05 PM »
It was TVAG talking about reviving the old Knights of The Pacific Northwest range, but they are likely 25mm and pretty dated at this point. I’d like to see some new sculpts. If at some point I have the money I might do it myself... ;)

Offline marco55

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2018, 03:16:34 PM »
I've learned that you have to have some deep pockets to do a range. :o lol
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Offline axabrax

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2018, 05:13:17 PM »
Without a doubt! Probably a topic for another thread, but I’ve often wondered what it would cost to do a range of 30-50 figures with top-tier sculpting talent...

I've learned that you have to have some deep pockets to do a range. :o lol
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Offline cuprum

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #98 on: August 24, 2018, 01:17:19 PM »
Helmets of Russian warriors found on the territory of Siberia:


Offline huevans

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #99 on: August 24, 2018, 01:51:06 PM »
My goodness! Is it possible that some of Yermak's men had full suits of Western armour? Or that there were some Western adventurers with his little army?

Offline Andrei1975

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #100 on: August 24, 2018, 02:06:40 PM »
I read that in the detachment of Ermak there were Tatars, Germans and Litvin.

Offline DintheDin

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #101 on: August 24, 2018, 02:09:08 PM »
This story is getting more and more interesting! Thanks to all the contributors of these rare infos!
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. – Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi

Offline cuprum

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #102 on: August 24, 2018, 02:15:48 PM »
This is very likely. While I moved away from the topic, a number of scientific articles appeared on the subject of the costume and weapons of the "Russian conquistadors." Very interesting information. Sponsors of the expedition, the merchants of the Stroganov brothers, provided the expedition with the most modern weapons and armor, including the European one. For example, on the arms of the detachment of Ermak there were Spanish arquebuses. In addition, the detachment included former prisoners captured in the Livonian War. I think that in the Livonian Order there were a lot of Europeans who would prefer the usual weapons for them (this is my little speculation)))  However, the Cossacks also never hesitated to use their spoils of war.

Figures of helmets and armor of the detachment Ermak from the annals of that period. I think I see a lot of European armor...


Offline cuprum

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #103 on: August 24, 2018, 02:23:24 PM »
Another interesting detail. Russian warriors in Siberia were forced to make extensive use of armor until the end of the 17th century...

Offline Andrei1975

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Re: Yermak and the Conquest of Siberia
« Reply #104 on: August 24, 2018, 07:20:23 PM »
Here are some more drawings on the topic: