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I'm thinking of collecting a little force of Rhys ap Thomas (or his father Thomas ap Gruffydd) retainers for WOTR
AFAIK he used the raven/crow as a badge and white for livery, but only after he became a knight (as was usually the case I believe). Before that probably the livery and one of the badges of whomever he was retained or empowered by at any particular time.
Did you recommend this to me? (Someone here did). It's basically the Rhys ap Thomas story. Tells you pretty much everything you need to know about him IIRC...
This is bothering me.
Whether it was his livery, Pembroke's or Tudor's is another question, but his own livery is less likely to warrant a beheading if plans went awry. He might put his hands up to illegal retaining and pay a fine, but Tudor livery would be proof of treason without question.