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Offline OSHIROmodels

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Gluing greens
« on: August 18, 2018, 07:16:13 PM »
Need a bit of advice. I’ve got some greens that need some love and attention; bits need sticking back on. There are pins and holes of course and I’ve heard superglue isn’t good for greens going in moulds so I’m looking for a glue recommendation that’ll withstand vulcanisation  :)

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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2018, 08:47:03 PM »

I use super glue all the time .The only reason I've ever come across is in older style moulds where the moulds require the rubber to be at a higher temperature and pressure. Then only when the rubber has been too hot,and has burned the master then there's an issue the glue can bubble and burn. But then so does the clay at a similar tempted .I think I can only think of two occasions in the last Twenty years I've had issues  .Once the whole mould burnt killing all but one master. The second was the rubber failed and leaked out the back of the machine leading to uneven pressure which crushed the masters.


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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2018, 09:37:50 AM »
Cheers Mark, good to know  :)

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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2018, 10:42:49 AM »
Once the whole mould burnt killing all but one master. The second was the rubber failed and leaked out the back of the machine leading to uneven pressure which crushed the masters.


Mark.

Well that seems 2 bloody good reasons lol.
Is it worth the risk?
Would liquid greenstuff work? I've never used the stuff myself.


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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2018, 11:01:36 AM »
I use superglue.  It can be helpful to the mould maker to know about it as, when opening the mould, there might be some fumes. 

If you know who’s going to make the moulds, then it’s worth asking them first in case they’d rather you didn’t. I asked a mould maker I used and was told, basically, it’s ok if it’s not too much (too much being undefined).
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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2018, 09:27:21 PM »
Liquid green stuff isn't for casting.( it says so on the pot ;)) In fact I can't see a reason to buy it (have some though) for me the list of things it can't do are all the thing's It originally promised to do.

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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2018, 01:56:05 PM »
Another tidbit of information; ProCreate will turn brown when used in masters in vulcanising moulds, and added on pieces will come loose, unlike those done with Green Stuff.

And on the one occasion I did send out a master for casting, superglued pieces had indeed come loose too (as well as the above putty discoloration).

Mind; this was on top of a metal dolly, so maybe that was a factor too?
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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 02:29:54 PM »
The superglue can melt thus the risk of fumes and detachment

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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2018, 09:21:59 PM »
I have no experience with casting but recently i made a mini that was sculpted with polymer putty over a green stuf milliput dollie. As i was working on it it broke at the ankles and i couldnt use superglue because i had to bake it in my kitchen oven. I pinned the legs and used a soft mix of greenstuff as glue. It worked perfectly
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Re: Gluing greens
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2018, 10:04:25 PM »
I have nothing to add but reading along like I'm superglued to the screen.
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