non-human "civilised soldiers"

[Patrick R]

Looking for Hobgoblins figures for my campaign, I could get away with existing historical plastics or some fantasy, but I need corresponding heads or failing in that a good suggestion for suitable figures.  Suggestions ?

They should be organized, with well-made armour and gear, uniform in organisation, but clearly not human.

[Hobgoblin]

Looking for Hobgoblins figures for my campaign, I could get away with existing historical plastics or some fantasy, but I need corresponding heads or failing in that a good suggestion for suitable figures.  Suggestions ?

They should be organized, with well-made armour and gear, uniform in organisation, but clearly not human.

Reaper Bones make some cheap hobgoblins, but there are only four, I think (the first two items on this page):

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Hobgoblin

The Ganesha hobgoblins from Alternative Armies (scroll down) would fit in pretty well with the Reaper ones, I think. They're fiddly and mulitpart, but the fact that the troopers are based around the same body gives them a certain uniformity. And the hyaenodon cavalry are quite nice.

https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/ganesha-games-miniatures


A cheap option would be to get some second-hand GW LotR orcs from eBay and paint them with a less grubby colour scheme. I did this with some (below) a while back. I also have some of the Morannon orcs, which I was planning to use as hobgoblins (I painted one or two in red armour, but have no photo to hand, alas). The Isengard Uruk-hai would also be good - and are more uniform. And there are wolfriders and hyena-ish-thing riders too.

[westwaller]

What about one of the many frostgrave/gripping beast/fireforge plastic ranges with alternative heads? Maybe use the Oathmark goblin heads on Fireforge medieval Russians for example? It might be worth trying to get some single sprues to try this out before committing to a full box set?

[boneio]

This is a regular concern for me, as I need orcs which don't look traditionally 'Orcy' i.e. they should be well-equipped, upright, not too savage looking, etc.

I've converted some horse-riding orcs (why use boars/wolves when horses are easier?!) using plastic arab cavalry and parts from the old wargames-factory orc sprues. I haven't painted them yet...

[Brandlin]

I'd suggest the old grenadier miniature half orcs - now in production with mirliton.

http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=fantasy-2528mm-half-orc

[Munindk]

I've seen people combine Warlord EIR Romans with Oathmark Dwarf heads, so I imagine Oathmark Goblins heads could work too. I think it was in the Dragon Rampant facebook group.

The Dwarf heads and roman bodies looked good, very regimented.

Frostgrave Gnoll head might work, if their heads connect to the body like the Oathmark miniatures do.

[Hobgoblin]

It's perhaps worth noting that the Oathmark goblins (and Frostgrave gnolls) have heads that connect horizontally to the torsos rather than vertically as with the other figures in their range. So they're not immediately compatible without a bit of cutting and filling.

The Wargames Factory orcs are similar, but the male/female socketry's the other way round (so a quicker fix).

The orc heads from GW's The Hobbit wolfriders (as in my post above) do go well onto human bodies from various manufacturers, though, as they attach vertically. I've used them as half-orc men-at-arms on Perry foot-knight bodies, for example. You get quite a few spare heads on those sprues too.

[Cubs]

It's perhaps worth noting that the Oathmark goblins (and Frostgrave gnolls) have heads that connect horizontally to the torsos rather than vertically as with the other figures in their range. So they're not immediately compatible without a bit of cutting and filling.

Ah … I see the problem.

[Ethelred the Almost Ready]

Having a few internet problems here so I can't post a link, but Mirliton Eastern Hobgoblins  are only semi-wild looking and Alternative Armies also have more civilised Hobs.
Renegade miniatures orcs have a more uniform look (depending on what you think a hogoblin should look like).

If you want more upright goblin/orc type figures, I have used Oathmark goblin heads on Gripping Beast plastic Vikings - sadly no pictures and I have done a bit of converting to place the heads forward rather than sitting on top of the neck)  If you want a more civilised look you could use the Saxon bodies or even Firforge .

[Jagannath]

There’s also the Otherworld hobgoblins - depending on budget - those are very uniformed and militaristic.



http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/product-category/humanoid-tribes/page/3/

[3 fingers]

Looking for Hobgoblins figures for my campaign, I could get away with existing historical plastics or some fantasy, but I need corresponding heads or failing in that a good suggestion for suitable figures.  Suggestions ?

They should be organized, with well-made armour and gear, uniform in organisation, but clearly not human.

Seen a pic  in the internet of fireforge steppe infantry with goblinoid head and feet.

[Hobgoblin]

If you want more upright goblin/orc type figures, I have used Oathmark goblin heads on Gripping Beast plastic Vikings - sadly no pictures and I have done a bit of converting to place the heads forward rather than sitting on top of the neck)

I'd quite forgotten I'd done that too. Here's a pic. The goblin heads work much better on Gripping Beast bodies because they have a neck stump rather than a socket (as with Perry, etc). Also, here's the GB one against an actual Oathmark goblin and a couple of (unfinished) GW Morannon orcs. They're all compatible in size, though the Oathmark bodies are a bit ragged and irregular-looking, perhaps.

[Munindk]

It's perhaps worth noting that the Oathmark goblins (and Frostgrave gnolls) have heads that connect horizontally to the torsos rather than vertically as with the other figures in their range. So they're not immediately compatible without a bit of cutting and filling.

I have some goblins, but they're hiding unassembled in the back of the closet. They should be easy to get onto Fireforge bodies in general though, as they have a slightly protruding neck.

From sticking Fireforge heads onto Perry bodies, horizontally connnecting heads can be fitted onto flatnecked bodies with a small lump of green stuff and some flattening, no real sculpting required.

[boneio]

That goblin spear-man is very effective, I may just have to try that...

Thanks for the suggestions, although it's not my thread it's a topic of great interest!

I have got some of the AA (well, Ganesha) hobgoblins somewhere to be assembled.

For heavily armoured orcs I'm using Kustoss orcs, long OOP. They're perhaps not the best figures around but they're pretty unique. Also turns out some were sculpted by Kev White which perhaps explains why I like them (he's a favourite of mine).

Will dig out some pics later.

[boneio]

Just remembered to update this - here's an example of a Kustoss armoured orc who doesn't have quite the usual orcish vibe.