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Author Topic: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.  (Read 8212 times)

Offline nicknorthstar

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New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« on: September 21, 2018, 11:05:46 AM »
The new range from Copplestone Castings for the Darkest Africa range, the Shilluk.
Available in about 2 weeks time.

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 11:17:35 AM »
Niiiiice  :-* :-*

Any historical information about these guys?  :)

Offline Von Stroheim

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2018, 01:37:41 PM »
Great looking figures - looks like Mark is covering every tribe in Africa and good to see him doing historicals.

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 01:46:11 PM »
Oh. My. God. The maestro is seriously back in business. They look wonderful.

I foresee a happy Plynkes...  lol

Offline nicknorthstar

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 01:55:00 PM »

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 02:21:11 PM »
Very fierce looking,sure to be popular  :)


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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 03:32:14 PM »
I foresee a happy Plynkes...  lol

Always stoked to see additions to my favourite range from my favourite sculptor.  :)

Did a bit of a double-take at his choice of subject matter, though. Was not expecting that. While they look lovely, alas, I don't see myself building a Shilluk force any time soon. I have too much unfinished stuff on the go as it is to go buggering about with new projects (though I might just be tempted to get a few as conversion-fodder for already ongoing projects). But if you have a Mahdist or Egyptian force they'd make an interesting change of opponent for them, as they clashed with both on occasion. You could face them off against the "Turkiyya" Khartoum slave raiders, too.

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 03:56:31 PM »
Love the look of the figures.

Come on Plynkes, buy some,
we all know you want to. ;) lol
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Offline airbornegrove26

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2018, 03:35:54 AM »
Oh man. I’m going to have to get some of these!

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2018, 10:45:42 AM »
As plynkes said they clashed against Egyptians and Mahdists..a must source is the Foundry book on East Africa..an imteresting war game option is their marginal role in the Nile Fashoda expedition by the Comandant Marchand’ Senegalese Tirailleurs where  they could have attacked even the French if they have been in difficulty. In fact, once the Mahdist landing attempt on the ruined fort of Fashoda was countered by heavy Lebel repeating rifle volleys by Tirailleurs..the Shilluks began to harras the badly mauled Ansars...I think I ll consider to buy some as I already have French, Egyptians and Mahdists

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2018, 11:03:23 AM »
Apparently some of the Sudanese soldiers in British service at the time of the Fashoda incident were Shilluk, and they informed their compatriots of the greater political situation and which way the wind was blowing. Convinced it would come to fighting, the locals began something of an embargo on the French fort (which they had been trading with) for fear of upsetting the British, leading to something of a logistics crisis for Les Français. A hypothetical clash with the French is definitely something that could be done, perhaps even as part of a what-if-Fashoda-turned-sour? affair between the French and the Brits.

There were many tribal uprisings among the local peoples under British rule, but unfortunately it seems the Shilluk were not among them. They seem to have been reluctant to start anything, despite not being treated particularly well-treated, because unlike their pastoral neighbours their agricultural lifestyle left them more vulnerable to retaliation. I suppose one could use them as proxies for their more rebellious cousins such as the Dinka and the Anuak (unless of course Mark can be persuaded to make those too, and some early 20th Century Sudanese to fight them. maybe? Hands up for Sudanese Camel Corps? Okay, I'm daydreaming now).


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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2018, 05:25:54 PM »
The Dinka are next

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2018, 05:28:14 PM »
Cool. Finally one of my predictions comes true!  :)


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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2018, 05:49:02 PM »
Might they also have some use as either opponents or numeri on Rome's desert frontier?

Re. Foundry's East Africa book, has anybody here heard news of a reprint? When I last checked, used copies of the original print edition were very expensive.

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Re: New Darkest Africa from Copplestone Castings.
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2018, 06:36:24 PM »
As far as I remember, the Foundry East Africa book doesn't actually cover this area. Its northern borders are a bit to the south of these guys, down in Equatoria (the southern part of what is now South Sudan - Fashoda is in the north of South Sudan). So I wouldn't buy it hoping for info on the Shilluk, Dinka, etc.

The Foundry book  Small Wars and Skirmishes does however have a short chapter on this region, with some illustrations of various tribesmen and the (Anglo-Egyptian) Sudanese military.