1/300 scale Coastal Warfare game from Warlord "Cruel Seas"

[robh]

Recent article on Bell of Lost Souls site about the forthcoming game from Warlord:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/09/cruel-seas-new-wwii-small-ship-naval-combat-game.html

Models look great but I don't think the scale is the best option for MTBs, a couple of ships each side on a biggish table could possibly work. But trying to do convoy attacks or flotilla size games I think will be too cramped unless you play on a floor.

[von Lucky]

Models look nicely detailed, but like Battlefront and 15mm for Team Yankee the scale to suit the game doesn't seem right (as you also stated). If there's disconnect with scale that suits the game and scale that provides nice detail - the scale that suits the game should win out.

Also reminds me of David Manley's (Edinburgh Wargames) Narrow Seas rules that are due out soonish:
http://www.edinburghwargames.com/category/naval-warfare/coastal-forces/

They're using 1/600 scale models for this type of game.

However, having a few of these as scale models might be nice though. Thanks for sharing.

[Volleyfire!]

Whilst the Warlord boots look very tempting and nicely detailed I don't think you'll be able to get away with a 6 x 4 table, and larger vessels could struggle to work properly without lots of room.
Whereas the link to David Manley's new rules playtests for those like me with 1/600 fleets looks very interesting indeed. Whether Warlords rules could scale down for 1/600 satisfactorily as well remains to be seen, but we could suddenly be spoilt with some new fast play rules that really work!

[AKULA]

Love it - the scale is a refreshing change.

Think big, play a game on the floor, or in the garden

 

[Ultravanillasmurf]

So what scale is it?

[AKULA]

So what scale is it?

1/300th scale

It’s in the thread title 

[Gunbird]

Refreshing? If you like a crowded table, sadly, you need space to manuevre in naval games. I'm starting this in 1/600 after giving it a try in 1/3000.

[Etranger]

I guess they choose 1/300 to fit in with the various micro-armour ranges but as Gunbird says it's going to get awfully crowded unless it's a big, big table.

[robh]

Refreshing? If you like a crowded table, sadly, you need space to manuevre in naval games. I'm starting this in 1/600 after giving it a try in 1/3000.

1/3000
How does that work?  Something like a Fairmile would be about 6 or 7mm long no?

I have 1/3000 ships for fleet combats but was considering 1/1200 for Coastal, is the smaller scale really viable?

[Tommy20]

I'll be interested to see what the movement mechanic is.  I've thought for years that a Wings of War movement template approach would work great for PT's/MTB's/E-Boots...

[Mako]

Can't wait.

Need crew figs for the cockpits/bridges, and to man the guns.

Need a 71'6" BPB "Whaleback" MGB, and a later conversion to the MTB, with both the sloping backed cockpit, as well as the later, shorter, more conventional one.

Some small colliers, and a German VP Boat/Armed Trawler would be nice too, for decent targets for both sides.

[Ultravanillasmurf]

1/300th scale

It’s in the thread title 

Doh!

Sorry.

[AKULA]

Refreshing? If you like a crowded table, sadly, you need space to manuevre in naval games.

I guess it depends how big your table, floor, or lawn is.

I for one look forward to seeing these on show at Salute.

[Gunbird]

1/3000
How does that work?  Something like a Fairmile would be about 6 or 7mm long no?

I have 1/3000 ships for fleet combats but was considering 1/1200 for Coastal, is the smaller scale really viable?

No, it is not, hence the "tried" to see if I would like coastal actions. 1/3000 is dirtcheap and supereasy to scratchbuild for, and I have very limited room as most gamers do, 4x6 is about the max, so I gave it a try and it works ok, but the labels would dominate the models and I prefer to have naval models without labels.  I'm not going to play naval games on a lawn, sorry....

1/600 you can use a lot of plastic kits that are outthere or get resins and metal from various outlets. Choice in 1/1200 isn't great but doable. And some shipplans and plasticcard go a long way in these scales.

[AKULA]

I have very limited room as most gamers do, 4x6 is about the max....  I'm not going to play naval games on a lawn, sorry....

No need to apologise, but like I said it depends upon how big your gaming space is - the scale won’t suit everyone, but I’m sure there is a market for this scale, and apparently Warlord agree, otherwise they wouldn’t have commissioned a new range.