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Offline Harry Faversham

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A sun bleached redcoat???
« on: November 01, 2018, 02:58:25 PM »
Using Vallejo paints, what colour would be best to depict redcoats who have been wandering about too long in the midday sun?

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Offline WillieB

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Re: A sun bleached redcoat???
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 06:52:39 PM »
Red dye on wool would fade to a brownish pink under a harsh sun. Sorry use oil paints so can't give you any Vallejo equivalents.
I would/ have used use Burnt Sienna + Indian Red + white for such uniforms.
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Offline has.been

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Re: A sun bleached redcoat???
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 07:43:52 PM »
I use cheap acrylics, but would drybrush (over the red) with an orange, then lighten the orange
with white & do an even lighter drybrush over things like elbows.
Hope that helps.

Offline Cubs

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Re: A sun bleached redcoat???
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 07:48:33 PM »
Using the Vallejo Game Colours, I'd probably use Orange Fire, with a dark brown (wash?) shade and something like Bronze Fleshtone for highlight.
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Offline Mike1879

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Re: A sun bleached redcoat???
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 07:51:52 PM »
Try Vallejo Orange Red !! I use it on my redcoats as a final hi light and it gives the worn finish your after !!

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: A sun bleached redcoat???
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2018, 05:09:37 PM »
Thanks chaps, plenty of good stuff there to experiment with. I'll practice one a few scrappers... before attempting WI's Sir Garnet Faversham!

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Offline WillieB

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Re: A sun bleached redcoat???
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2018, 10:26:02 AM »
In RL any yellow(ish) dye would wear out first as it has the least 'mordant' compared to other colours.  Witness the almost blue Dragoon and Chasseur Napoleonic uniforms in museums.  So while looking good, is is doubtful that anything red would fade to orange as there isn't any or hardly any yellow dye in the mix. ( except for the bonding agent)
So it depends a bit on which dye was used to get the red colour in the first place. The most popular in the 19th c. was iron Oxide which fades to brownish pink after prolonged use. The other one is Red Ochre which will fairly rapidly turn to an almost lilac- pink. Wool tinted with madder roots turns greyish pink.  Hopes this helps somewhat.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 01:36:34 PM by WillieB »