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Offline Gribb

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New German Hussars
« on: November 21, 2018, 04:15:00 PM »
Steve Barber has recently finished sculpting these German Hussars. There will be provided separate arms for lance, sword and carbine(2 variants of each). As well as separate heads and pieces for the sword & rifle scabbards.




https://www.facebook.com/SteveBarberModels/photos/pcb.1394336764035288/1394336597368638/?type=3&theater

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2018, 04:43:11 AM »
Lovely work from Steve.

All the best,

Helen
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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2018, 06:59:30 AM »
Very nice. German cavalry, including Husaren, always carried a lance even if not in hand. It would be nice if the figures are supplied with separate lances that can be mounted in the separate arm or carried on the trooper's back.

Robert

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2018, 01:39:44 PM »
Really cool, Gribb has written that there will be separate arms with lance. I hope that heads with bushy mustaches are also there.

Offline Metternich

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2018, 04:50:28 PM »
Would also be useful to provide stahlhelm head as well.  There were still some mounted cavalry right up to the Armistice (and beyond, on the Eastern front).

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2018, 07:06:00 PM »
Really cool, Gribb has written that there will be separate arms with lance. I hope that heads with bushy mustaches are also there.

There will be separate arms with sword, lance and carbine. 2 variants of each to avoid a too generic look.
The lances will be provided separate from the arm unlike the gwm variants.

Steve will add bushy mustaches and some with beards on the clean shaven heads before they are released. To maximize the variety.
In total there will be about 8 heads with and without facial hair.



^It would not be a proper Hussar unit without facial hair like these guys were sporting.

Would also be useful to provide stahlhelm head as well.  There were still some mounted cavalry right up to the Armistice (and beyond, on the Eastern front).

That is pretty interesting and I will mention it to him. Thanks for the input.
If there is a lot of interest for this it would be great to have others join in on commissioning them. There are plans for dismounted versions as well.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2018, 07:35:40 PM by Gribb »

Offline Metternich

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2018, 04:42:04 PM »
As a possible reference, here are a few photos of German cavalry in the stahlhelm.  The second photo is rather interesting in that it shows a machinegun team of hussars with their Bergmann MG15 n.a. (an air-cooled weapon that was a stop-gap after the Somme and loss of large numbers of Madsen light machineguns, and before arrival of the MG 08/15.  The Bergmann was mostly issued to troops on the Eastern Front and to the Asia Korps in Palestine)   :

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=56905

https://i.redd.it/5fqqmqs44p911.jpg

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/152857056765_/German-Officers-with-side-arms-and-Iron-Crosses.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B5MAFK/2-g55-w1-1918-27-e-german-cavalry-adavnaces-wwi-1918-history-world-B5MAFK.jpg

Offline monk2002uk

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 08:13:13 AM »
And here is a photo of hussars with the full cap cover - the Totenkopf (skull and crossbones) was only worn by the Leib-Husaren regiments:



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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2018, 05:26:25 PM »
@Metternich Thanks for the information. Cool pictures that would be useful.

And here is a photo of hussars with the full cap cover - the Totenkopf (skull and crossbones) was only worn by the Leib-Husaren regiments:



Robert
Head Versions of these Hussars are also scheduled along. We decided to go with the Leib-Husaren first.
Did they wear only full cloth cover? Or could there be a mix of partial and full cover for a head pack?

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2018, 06:16:26 PM »
I would strongly doubt they would have deployed in a combat role without the cap cover (that would be like using the pickelhaube helmet w/o its cover).  Just not "tactical."  The only WW 1 photos I have seen with the uncovered busby were for troops in a photographers studio, or on parade, or very senior officers (e.g. General von Mackensen).  Below are a few more photos of hussars (the first is a very often republished photo) - all with the busbys covered (except, of course, the officer in stahlhelm !)
https://soclas.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/german-hussars-crossing-into-serbia-1915.jpg

https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/6ebcc356fc9ce8b397453fa5065b58eb/ere-hisl034-ec834-h.jpg

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2942/15172033738_a9192b75a0_b.jpg

http://www.hellenicaworld.com/History/OsborneComp/en/images/i_b_009b.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0ykAAOSwevdaNsGT/s-l300.jpg 

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2018, 06:38:18 PM »
Thanks for the photos. Full cloth cover it is then.



« Last Edit: November 25, 2018, 06:42:08 PM by Gribb »

Offline monk2002uk

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2018, 08:15:22 PM »
I agree with Metternich. Even the Leib-Husaren would have worn the full cap cover when on campaign. The Totenkopf would have made a handsome target otherwise  ;)

Robert

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2018, 08:45:10 PM »
I agree with Metternich. Even the Leib-Husaren would have worn the full cap cover when on campaign. The Totenkopf would have made a handsome target otherwise  ;)

Robert

Most likely they did. And a fine target indeed. But I do not think its going overboard with the totenkopf visible. It gives them a distinict and easy recognizible appearance on the table.
Same  as manufacturers don't sculpt 1914 French with unbuttoned greatcoats and puttes. Despite from what I've read they sensibly did everything they could to cover up the red trousers. And as this photo shows:




Personally I think such a small detail is less severe than ww1 sculpts out there. With infantry and cavalry in calm, strolling poses as if on a military manovers in peace time. Where are all the sculpts taking cover from the enemy fire? ;D

I see Your point. But with a full cover head pack gamers can decide which option they want to go for.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2018, 10:19:27 AM by Gribb »

Offline monk2002uk

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2018, 09:03:21 PM »
I agree with your point about figures looking good versus being historically accurate. Having the Totenkopf visible will certainly add something to the on-table ambience. Wouldn't put me off buying them.

Robert

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Re: New German Hussars
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2018, 11:08:38 AM »

Hussars in a skirmish pose would be useful in the first place. Dismounted as an outpost or scout. The only thing that bothers me is the attacking pose.
Think that there were no noteworthy cavalry attacks in the First World War.